Hey Myke, this is Ja'Carra and I wanted to say thank you very much for answering my question. It was really cool to finally hear someone's opinion and experience dealing with that from a genre of music and just in general. Don't take this as a sympathy ticket, but it kind of sucks not really having that kind of insight from my peers around me because it always get slammed with these stupid ass labels such as "that white folk music" or "Satan worshipping music". But racism nor any kind of social boundary won't stop me from enjoying a genre or band, I just wanted proper insight from somebody just in case if I acted belligerent and it wasn't necessary. Thanks for taking the time out to answer my question man, and whoever has disagreements about you being a o.g., tell them to come see me bruh bruh lol.
In my experience nazis tended to get thrashed at shows. At least that was the way it was 5 years ago in the local punk scene; it kinda died after 08. SHARPS and Reds never put up with that bullshit; at one show a band stopped playing to physically remove a guy from the house show.
John Doe Nice. Yeah, that happens at punk shows, but not metal shows. The Nazis are typically just ignored. Sometimes even tolerated. It's pretty annoying.
I went to my first Metal show last year in Miami. The line-up consisted of Black Metal bands from the state of Florida. I was one of 2 black people there (the other was a woman who came with her White boyfriend). Nobody messed with us or treated us differently. When a guy wanted to walk between me and another guy, he simply patted me on the back and I gave him space to move.
Myke C-Town Well the venue was in the middle of Little Haiti as well so... And there were a few Hispanics there, too, in the audience and in a band or two... Shrug, my luck I guess.
What annoys me the most about being one of 2-3 black people at a metal show is when everyone expects me to know or befriend the other black people there for no reason other than we're both black
Hahahahaha! Absolutely!!!!! "You know him, right?" Dude, no! Why the fuck would I know him? I think some people take that whole "brotha" thing a bit too literally.
In my experience at metal shows I've never seen any racism, and normally people are amazingly accommodating, like they acknowledge not many people like death metal, so when there's a room full of people supporting a band they love there's a respect and welcoming. Normally the only issue is you can get some metal elitists who will give you grief for wearing the 'wrong' shirt (I wore a Regina Spektor T to Cannibal Corpse), but I got more respect than trouble. I encountered some racism in hardcore though (towards middle eastern guys) and rap scenes though (I'm from England). That said, I don't go to black metal gigs, where racism does seem most prevailant.
"I wore a Regina Spektor shirt to a Cannibal Corpse show". I'm far from a metal elitist, but I would make a stupid joke about it like: "wrong show, buddy". Jokes aside, I really like Regina Spektor and Cannibal Corpse.
Funny how the racists dont realize that the music they love, was spawned by music developed by black artists. A coworker was playing some obscure punk/metal type music and I swore tge guitar solo in one song, sounded amazingly reminiscent of a Chuck Barry scale.
And in turn the music that was developed by black artists spawned from white people who were probably somewhat racist. It's all just about how deep you want to dig.
I still listen to bands like Burzum, Graveland and Nokturnal Mortum from time to time but I would NEVER support those bands in any way (buy merch, albums or attend shows).
Hey Myke, stellar update, WDYWTK episode as always. Just about caught upon all of your vids now. Loved your views on racism in metal. On point! That's a fantastic wall of vinyl behind you. As always love from Manchester, cheers James
I'm not sure why I can't respond to a comment down there about the metal show in Miami... Anyways, I know what you mean. I'm Puerto Rican and I live in Miami, Florida. I'm light skinned, not too dark anyways.I love Indie rock, and I go to Brooklyn, New York to see a lot of indie rock bands play in the Williamsburg Area. I went to a show on Halloween night and was probably the only guy of latin descent there. A lot of white people and like two black guys. I wish there was more diversity in the indie rock scene and rock scene.
I feel the same way about that as I do about the racism in black metal. I think a lot of it is confused people acting this way out of tradition or what they see as protection of culture and heritage. For the record...I don't really think DIJ is actually racist. I think it's a shock value thing.
Hey Myke like what you said about being a black punk. I'm also in a similar situation as a Hispanic. It's true people do you treat you a little different for hanging out with the white kids that have similar interests to you and not even the white kids you hang out with totally get you is the worst part. I can't escape the differences no matter where I go. Even when I go to Mexico I am looked as an outsider for being American. I wish it didn't have to be so divided but what am I going to do.
as a black guy who is into metal (and one that went to an hbcu where there were very few of us who were into it) I appreciate your perspective on the scene. I recently had to debate a friend of mine as to why as much as I love Pantera's "vulgar display of power" I haven't listened to it since finding out about Phil Anselmo's antics and views.
Damn,this reminds me of when I went to a Swans show in Nashville and every white guy in a 2 meter radius from me felt obligated to keep visual tabs on where I was,as the firmly keep their hands against pockets during the whole show... :/ You know,because I clearly look like a master pick pocket.
Hahaha! You do look kinda crazy. But, nah, I've been to a few Swans shows and I've never had that problem. Now when I saw Merle Haggard...different story. I had motherfuckers cuttin' eyes all night long.
As a white Norwegian, i do admit that i personally find it difficult for me to listen certain of Black Metal bands, because i feel like i am acknowledging their ideologies by enjoying their music. What bothers me about that is that i might have enjoyed a band before i realized they were NSBM or whatever. Like i think (some of) Burzum music is pretty good. However, I know this one guy who have another take on it, he will listen to any band, but he refuses to legally buy any music or merch by the artists if the members have poisonous ideas.,
Arian hmn I can totally respect the idea of just not supporting them monetarily. And that's what I've been wrestling with lately. I'm actually doing a video discussion with some guys soon about this very topic. Hopefully within the next few weeks.
That's the thing. People like Vikernes and Darken have shitty beliefs but they make damn good music. With that being said, I must admit I feel like a hypocrite for enjoying their music even though I don't give them a cent or any sort of support.
Never really thought about the whole being more punk because of being black and into punk and rebelling against standards. It's a very interesting view point and it definitely is true no one would really be surprised at someone white or even Hispanic being into punk, but when it comes to black people there seems to be this thought and idea of wow, that's so different and out of the norm
Thank you for the response, Myke! I would certainly agree with certain aspects you said on MBTI, and completely agree with your opinion on the matter. I'm interested in MBTI in theory, in describing personality at it rudimentary essence in an effort to understand the minds of others. In short, I'm more interested in the characterization and categorization of qualities versus a means to "box", but unfortunately the MBTI system is flawed and can be used as that. Furthermore, it's validity is suspect, yet I still find some credence in what function it claims to perform. If you're still remotely interested in or accepting of the subject, take a look into ENFP. I'd personally say it's a closer fit.
Hey Myck im a big fan of your show and i like how you are not the traditional listener. Latly ive been noticing that youve gave out some names on your top ten favorite mc list and I would like to know the list so if you could list them in order that would be great
Ok myke what I want to know is:what metal and punk bands do you recommend. been trying to get into it and have been doing more punk then metal, like dead Kennedy's and black flag. New or recent bands doesn't matter to me. If you do use this question thanks myke c c
Myke I got a question. Obviously you've got a taste for "dark" music, as do I. Would you say it's wise for someone who is quite isolated and sees themselves as separated from the environment in which they're in to listen to so much dark music? I mean at times it feels like what's supposed to be an escape into art is my reality and even though I enjoy it, the moods in those albums tend to stick with me. Do you have any experience with something similar or know of anyone that might? I wasn't really sure where to send you this man sorry.
actually you'd probably find mtbi to be a lot more accurate than you think, I mean it was designed by some of the greatest psychologists in history. it's really just a matter of preferences, how much u prefer a letter over it's opposite. I know someone who's my type and it trips me out how similar we are on random things sometimes
what I wanna know is have you listened to HORSE the band yet?! ive asked before lol I just know its right up your ally and wanna hear your opinion. My favorite band hands down. You should also check out Downstaaiirs. The guys from Heavy Heavy Low Lows new band, very very good.
My first metal concert was Carcass, who's music i enjoy alot. I'm not really into extreme metal, but I do indeed like Carcass, untill i heard the concert. They were playing at Roskilde Festival at 14:00, but it was an absolute disaster. They were so arogant and they were just plain bad. I haven't really felt like listening to any extreme metal since then and have been taking a break from them. Any idea's to what to extreme metal I could listen to? I really wonna get started again.
Strapping Young Lad. The album City to be more exact. Also check out the singer from that band- Devin Townsend. That guy is crazy. He released like 15 albums ranging from embiental music to extreme metal to noise.
Oh alright. Thanks for answering. I like that you keep shit real and aren't afraid to speak your mind. One could argue that many people do that but you do it intelligently and I respect that.
I feel like a black person at a Metal concert is slightly more likely to be cool, and exponentially more likely to not be a racist douche. Are they really that wrong for picking you to talk to? For me I guess it would depend on how comfortable or awkward they were talking to me.
William Cory I was talking about punk shows. So, typically, the likelihood of anyone there being racist would be very low. It was very clear that they were only talking to me because I was black and they wanted to show that they were cool with me being there. My point is the best way to make me feel comfortable would be to treat me like everyone else there. Talk to me if you have a real reason to. Not just because you think it's cool that there's a black guy in a place where black guys normally wouldn't go.
Myke C-Town I think that what you've pointed out here really underscores some serious issues at the moment in the 'white liberal' culture. As a white person who has a fairly ethnically diverse circle of friends, I find that remaining grounded and unpretentious around those friends has probably made them my most loyal and emotionally open friendships. This is of course nice, but it saddens me somewhat that they obviously experience a world that unconsciously segregates people; whether it be via attitudes or tastes, and the tribalism that seems to form around such lifestyles. A lot of white people are more into the idea of appearing accepting in front of others rather than actually having a black friend or whatever. It's extremely superficial and toxic, and in my opinion has been perpetuated by the 'being seen to be' culture of vain consumerism. These attitudes damage the sincerity of the communal relationships that life should be about in the first place. ...sorry that went a bit out there
Hey Mike , I listen to a lot of NSBM and i dont give a fuck about their lyrics or about what they hate. It all comes down to the music , I mean , I can never see myself living without listening to Nokturnal Mortum , Temnozor , Kataxu and so on. Yea , I dont agree with their view on the world and on people, but god damn , the music is so damn great. Fun fact : a lot of people who listen to NSBM think like me . :) Peace and love your shit.
Just cant get into black or death metal, the only rock i would listen to is bands like nirvana, alice in chains, wavves, QOTSA. Cant listen to something purposely extreme fr the sake of it. I generally stick to hip hop now, groups like the underachievers, pro era, clear soul forces.
The magic spell against stupid racism in rock music is: Jimi Hendrix. Just call his spirit and his ghost will come trash everything around with his super fire-guitar. Nah, but it would make a good videogame. I'm thinking, something better than Michael Jackson's Moonwalker, but along the line (it really wasn't bad).
As for the question of MBTI, it really doesn't describe you as a person at all, it just describes how you think most of the time. It has to do more with what types of cognitive processes your brain prioritizes than how you act, the reason why it can be interesting to know is that while everyone can do everything, which is absolutely true, some types tend to be really good at specific things. And some types tend to come with quirks that people with said type shares And that said, as someone who is quite interested in this subject, I would say you look up ENFP instead of ESFP. I get that I sound like a judgmental asshole lol, but the "DON'T PUT ME IN A BOX" was a dead givaway. Think of MBTI as someone that describes how a puzzle comes to together, it doesn't change the picture in the end, just points out all the different parts that make it come together Keep up the good work, you are definitely someone I look up to :D PS: Opinions on Gojira? Cause I find them fucking amazing, who thought lyrics about the environment and saving whales could be soo metal!
i was once at a grind-core concert and I had this thing where I raised my right arm and yelled "join us, join the right wing", and suddenly there was this skinhead in fornt of me looking all pissed thinking I was making fun of him, luckily there were two badass bold dudes with me, standing right behind, so it ant all right :-)
Torn Meniscus Fucked up my knee and my shoulder. Then skating just got to where it wasn't that fun anymore. It wasn't about smooth lines or doing big shit. It was just about how ridiculously technical you could be. I got bored with the industry. I still enjoy watching vids and still have a board, but I don't ride anymore.
Damn I hate that for you... I feel you 100%, the industry has changed. The only thing these new kids care about is their image and what and how many tricks you can do. The majority of them don't give a fuck about style, creativity, and just having fun.
Yes and no. The main guy behind it has ties to the movement. The True Werewolf (one of his many other bands) is for the most part NS and it was rumored that he was one of the members of White Wolves Kommando. SW has done splits with NS bands and has been associated with some sketchy shit, but I wouldn't say its full on NSBM.
***** They're not directly NSBM as far as I know. But their connections are far too much for me to tolerate. Plus, I've read some of their lyrics and they're clearly leaning towards Nazism. If they're not Nazis they're trying to pretend they are just to appear more extreme than others...which is just as lame. I think it's a bit different from people like Douglas Pierce who has given plenty of clues to him not being racist while playing around with WWII imagery. Still sketchy, but not as much as SW blatantly having lyrics that have Nazi leanings. Plus they fucking suck anyway.
Myke C-Town Well what about Death in June and other Industrial/Neofolk Bands you listen to? (Asked you about that on your page but you didn't respond yet)
bad hair .day Yeah, I mentioned that in the comment above. I think Douglas P flirts with the whole WW2 imagery in a really silly shock rock kinda way. I'm about 90% sure he's not a Nazi. He just doesn't care to quell the rumors because he probably finds it entertaining and he gets a separate fanbase off it. If irrefutable proof were to come out about Douglas P being a Nazi, I'd have no choice but to get rid of their records. Until then, I dig some DI6.
MBTI... Well, that escalated quickly. I hope, you stumble upon the indicator one day again and reconsider your views, cuz my man Carl Jung was a muhfuckin' genius and it's A-MAH-ZING. (Look up the functions...)
Burzum's imitators are way better than Burzum itself anyway. You can totally skip Burzum because there has been way better BM made from Xasthur and such without the fucking Nazis.
I don’t see how you could give the other DEHH guys shit for wanting to review Kanye after his slave comments, but then you’ll still give money to proud racists
I never listen to bands that I know are racist, but Burzum is kind of different. Bcs first of all it's just one guy, and second of all it's not that he's just racist- he's an anti-Christian, church-burning murderer. Plus, the one person he did kill was another white guy. To me, Varg is just traditional crazy, and his racism doesn't even come into the picture. It's like if a some radical Muslim had a metal band, but he was all anti-white or anti-black, wouldn't you still kind of listen to him? I know it's different with white people, but Varg is from a white country that has never been a colonial power, so to me he's just a crazy guy hell bent on his ancient local culture. And I'm cool with that. Not the church-burning and people-killing stuff of course.
I dunno about this one at all, man. Now, before I start, I'll repeat that I don't care what another person listens to. That's totally his business. And even though this video is three years old I still believe that. Maybe even more so now. Moving past that I think, a lot of times, it's not really logical to try to come up with logical reasons as to why you listen to a racist's music. Varg is no exception to the rule in any way, shape or form. I don't think that the band being only one person makes a difference at all. I also don't think him having other groups he hates makes a difference. It just means that his bigotry is less focused. I also don't think he's traditionally "crazy" at all. Varg is a very intelligent man. From his reasons for why he hates Christians in his country to why he killed a man to why he believes in racial separation...he presents compelling arguments for all (even if I don't agree with him). The ignorant racists aren't the ones to fear as far as organizing and actually affecting large groups of people or legislation. (They're just the ones stupid enough to actually carry through on random acts of violence.) It's the smart ones like Varg who have the ability to present their racism in a way that makes sense to people and makes it excusable that are a real threat. All that being said...listen to Burzum all you want. I do. Because I think that's really what this boils down to. He makes good music so you wanna listen to it. So just do that.
I don't know if I can call Varg intelligent. To me he's a deeply confused pagan dork. That's the best way I can put it. Otherwise I completely agree with what you're saying. Also, I'm well aware that what I wrote kind of makes me look like I might be ok with Breivik, which, just for the record, I totally am not. But overall, yeah, I would have to agree that those silent manifesto types probably do gather more followers, and ultimately do present a bigger danger than the likes of Nugent or Anselmo. Also, I don't really listen to Burzum lately. I used to when I was in my late teens and early 20's. Kind of gotten tired of it, as well as the entire black metal scene. I mostly only listen to stuff like Oathbreaker and Mamaleek now. Anywho, thanks for the reply, man )
OMG, don't be so fucking naive. Did you bother to listen to the entire segment or stop it in the middle just to leave this comment? If not, I very clearly said "leave me alone unless you really have a reason to come talk to me." Meaning, don't wander over to me just for the simple reason of talking to the lone black guy. That shit is see through as hell. If you sincerely wanna chat, then cool. Otherwise, treat me like you would treat every other person there. That's the best way to make someone at home, even if you do actually think they're different.
I listened to the entire thing. You even said you're more punk than them, but when they try to emphasis that you get offended. By them saying you're cool because you're black and into certain things they're basically doing the same thing you did (saying that you're more punk than them). I realize that might be annoying but I personally think there's much more important issues regarding racism to talk and be angry about. Again, I entirely understood what you wanted to say but i don't think it should've invoked such reaction...
pegatrisedmice Let me ask you this. Do you know how this works? People send me questions. I answer them. So yes, there are much more important issues regarding racism and when they are sent to me, I'll answer them. Now that that's out of the way... You clearly did NOT listen to the whole thing. I'll tell you what's annoying. The fact that I'm basically having to transcribe my video to you. Who said they were talking to me to emphasize how punk I am? That's ridiculous. I very clearly said that it's obvious that the reason they are talking to me is not because they actually think I'm cool or because I'm "so punk." They're doing it because it makes THEM look cool because they're talking to the perceived outcast. It's a way of making others see them in a good light. Not them seeing me in any certain light. When you're a black kid who has been in the scene for as long as I have, you notice the difference. Maybe you should actually go talk to a few about that. BTW, since you seemed to have missed this, too, my "black guy is more punk than you" comment was a very tongue-in-cheek way of saying that I have every right and reason to be at a punk show as a white person and should not be seen as odd. Lastly, who the hell are YOU to tell me how I should react to things? I don't know you and you don't know me. A good rule of thumb is don't go around telling members of minority groups (which you do not belong to) how to feel about situations. If you disagree, good for you. But attempting to invalidate their experiences by inserting you rather irrelevant assumptions into it is not only pointless, but rude.
I've been really depressed lately and rewatching some of your older videos is really bringing my mood up, I love you dude
Hey Myke, this is Ja'Carra and I wanted to say thank you very much for answering my question. It was really cool to finally hear someone's opinion and experience dealing with that from a genre of music and just in general. Don't take this as a sympathy ticket, but it kind of sucks not really having that kind of insight from my peers around me because it always get slammed with these stupid ass labels such as "that white folk music" or "Satan worshipping music". But racism nor any kind of social boundary won't stop me from enjoying a genre or band, I just wanted proper insight from somebody just in case if I acted belligerent and it wasn't necessary. Thanks for taking the time out to answer my question man, and whoever has disagreements about you being a o.g., tell them to come see me bruh bruh lol.
I suggest you listen to Goatmoon anyway, even if it has Nazi rights the music is wonderful
In my experience nazis tended to get thrashed at shows. At least that was the way it was 5 years ago in the local punk scene; it kinda died after 08. SHARPS and Reds never put up with that bullshit; at one show a band stopped playing to physically remove a guy from the house show.
John Doe Nice. Yeah, that happens at punk shows, but not metal shows. The Nazis are typically just ignored. Sometimes even tolerated. It's pretty annoying.
Myke C Town, His button downs fit him perfectly.
It's true
I went to my first Metal show last year in Miami. The line-up consisted of Black Metal bands from the state of Florida. I was one of 2 black people there (the other was a woman who came with her White boyfriend). Nobody messed with us or treated us differently. When a guy wanted to walk between me and another guy, he simply patted me on the back and I gave him space to move.
C.A. Hall Rad. Where do you live?
Miami.
C.A. Hall Oh well that makes sense. It'd be a bit difficult for white people to hate being around colored folks in Miami, huh?
Myke C-Town
Well the venue was in the middle of Little Haiti as well so... And there were a few Hispanics there, too, in the audience and in a band or two... Shrug, my luck I guess.
ourworlds atwar She was alright.
What annoys me the most about being one of 2-3 black people at a metal show is when everyone expects me to know or befriend the other black people there for no reason other than we're both black
Hahahahaha! Absolutely!!!!! "You know him, right?" Dude, no! Why the fuck would I know him? I think some people take that whole "brotha" thing a bit too literally.
In my experience at metal shows I've never seen any racism, and normally people are amazingly accommodating, like they acknowledge not many people like death metal, so when there's a room full of people supporting a band they love there's a respect and welcoming. Normally the only issue is you can get some metal elitists who will give you grief for wearing the 'wrong' shirt (I wore a Regina Spektor T to Cannibal Corpse), but I got more respect than trouble. I encountered some racism in hardcore though (towards middle eastern guys) and rap scenes though (I'm from England). That said, I don't go to black metal gigs, where racism does seem most prevailant.
"I wore a Regina Spektor shirt to a Cannibal Corpse show". I'm far from a metal elitist, but I would make a stupid joke about it like: "wrong show, buddy". Jokes aside, I really like Regina Spektor and Cannibal Corpse.
Man, if you had a radio show playing the music in your collection and talking like you do in these videos, I'd listen daily.
Funny how the racists dont realize that the music they love, was spawned by music developed by black artists. A coworker was playing some obscure punk/metal type music and I swore tge guitar solo in one song, sounded amazingly reminiscent of a Chuck Barry scale.
And in turn the music that was developed by black artists spawned from white people who were probably somewhat racist. It's all just about how deep you want to dig.
@@Balalaika74 ....really? What form of black music has roots from white artists?
@@jwilliama4427 Every form of music? Except maybe rap/hiphop but that is just mumbling in broken english so that doesn't count as music.
@@Balalaika74 no, be specific.
@@slavojdyrdek Specific about what?
I still listen to bands like Burzum, Graveland and Nokturnal Mortum from time to time but I would NEVER support those bands in any way (buy merch, albums or attend shows).
CarlHH777 See I won't even listen to them because I know me and I know that I'll want to buy the records if I like the bands. So I just don't bother.
Hey Myke, stellar update, WDYWTK episode as always. Just about caught upon all of your vids now. Loved your views on racism in metal. On point! That's a fantastic wall of vinyl behind you. As always love from Manchester, cheers James
I'm not sure why I can't respond to a comment down there about the metal show in Miami... Anyways, I know what you mean. I'm Puerto Rican and I live in Miami, Florida. I'm light skinned, not too dark anyways.I love Indie rock, and I go to Brooklyn, New York to see a lot of indie rock bands play in the Williamsburg Area. I went to a show on Halloween night and was probably the only guy of latin descent there. A lot of white people and like two black guys. I wish there was more diversity in the indie rock scene and rock scene.
Hello, I see you comment on a lot of videos.
you're keeping consistent with your vids now! good job Myke
Can I use the part of this video where you talk about your racial incidents at Metal shows for a college project?
I'm more curious about your thoughts on the racism in some neo-folk, given youre a big Death In June fan...
I feel the same way about that as I do about the racism in black metal. I think a lot of it is confused people acting this way out of tradition or what they see as protection of culture and heritage. For the record...I don't really think DIJ is actually racist. I think it's a shock value thing.
I think my first cassette was DMX - Flesh of my Flesh Blood of my Blood. I was 10 at the time..
Hey Myke like what you said about being a black punk. I'm also in a similar situation as a Hispanic. It's true people do you treat you a little different for hanging out with the white kids that have similar interests to you and not even the white kids you hang out with totally get you is the worst part. I can't escape the differences no matter where I go. Even when I go to Mexico I am looked as an outsider for being American. I wish it didn't have to be so divided but what am I going to do.
Oh man! I remember those VHS tapes! I think I still have a bunch of them. That is how I was introduced to Suicidal Tendencies also...
as a black guy who is into metal (and one that went to an hbcu where there were very few of us who were into it) I appreciate your perspective on the scene. I recently had to debate a friend of mine as to why as much as I love Pantera's "vulgar display of power" I haven't listened to it since finding out about Phil Anselmo's antics and views.
4:09 brilliant
IMO you and Anthony Fantano are the best music reviewers on youtube. Any plans to collab with him Siskel & Ebert style?
Damn,this reminds me of when I went to a Swans show in Nashville and every white guy in a 2 meter radius from me felt obligated to keep visual tabs on where I was,as the firmly keep their hands against pockets during the whole show... :/
You know,because I clearly look like a master pick pocket.
Hahaha! You do look kinda crazy. But, nah, I've been to a few Swans shows and I've never had that problem. Now when I saw Merle Haggard...different story. I had motherfuckers cuttin' eyes all night long.
As a white Norwegian, i do admit that i personally find it difficult for me to listen certain of Black Metal bands, because i feel like i am acknowledging their ideologies by enjoying their music. What bothers me about that is that i might have enjoyed a band before i realized they were NSBM or whatever. Like i think (some of) Burzum music is pretty good.
However, I know this one guy who have another take on it, he will listen to any band, but he refuses to legally buy any music or merch by the artists if the members have poisonous ideas.,
Arian hmn I can totally respect the idea of just not supporting them monetarily. And that's what I've been wrestling with lately. I'm actually doing a video discussion with some guys soon about this very topic. Hopefully within the next few weeks.
That's the thing. People like Vikernes and Darken have shitty beliefs but they make damn good music. With that being said, I must admit I feel like a hypocrite for enjoying their music even though I don't give them a cent or any sort of support.
ourworlds atwar I'm sorry, racism is not shitty?
Arian hmn Yeah, I was about to ask the same thing. But ourworlds atwar deleted the comment. Not sure why.
Myke C-Town I think he realized how stupid his comment was.. i at least hope so for his own sake.
Never really thought about the whole being more punk because of being black and into punk and rebelling against standards. It's a very interesting view point and it definitely is true no one would really be surprised at someone white or even Hispanic being into punk, but when it comes to black people there seems to be this thought and idea of wow, that's so different and out of the norm
Thank you for the response, Myke! I would certainly agree with certain aspects you said on MBTI, and completely agree with your opinion on the matter. I'm interested in MBTI in theory, in describing personality at it rudimentary essence in an effort to understand the minds of others. In short, I'm more interested in the characterization and categorization of qualities versus a means to "box", but unfortunately the MBTI system is flawed and can be used as that. Furthermore, it's validity is suspect, yet I still find some credence in what function it claims to perform. If you're still remotely interested in or accepting of the subject, take a look into ENFP. I'd personally say it's a closer fit.
Hey Myke can you recommend any metal albums for someone newly trying to get into the genre ?
Hey Myck im a big fan of your show and i like how you are not the traditional listener. Latly ive been noticing that youve gave out some names on your top ten favorite mc list and I would like to know the list so if you could list them in order that would be great
Ok myke what I want to know is:what metal and punk bands do you recommend. been trying to get into it and have been doing more punk then metal, like dead Kennedy's and black flag. New or recent bands doesn't matter to me. If you do use this question thanks myke c c
Myke I got a question. Obviously you've got a taste for "dark" music, as do I. Would you say it's wise for someone who is quite isolated and sees themselves as separated from the environment in which they're in to listen to so much dark music? I mean at times it feels like what's supposed to be an escape into art is my reality and even though I enjoy it, the moods in those albums tend to stick with me. Do you have any experience with something similar or know of anyone that might? I wasn't really sure where to send you this man sorry.
What are your thoughts on Kanye's "My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy"? Is this a classic album to you?
Hey Myke! Do you visit any music blogs/sites regularly? Can you recommend the best ones?
4:56 "before I ask my question I wanted to tell you that I'm a huge fan of yours and I endure what you do"
Wow that was a good question I want Mykes swaggggg
actually you'd probably find mtbi to be a lot more accurate than you think, I mean it was designed by some of the greatest psychologists in history. it's really just a matter of preferences, how much u prefer a letter over it's opposite. I know someone who's my type and it trips me out how similar we are on random things sometimes
What up Myke love the show!!! What made you move to Atlanta & any advice for a 27 year old looking to move to ATL.
Hey myke, can you maybe go over the different tattoos you have and the meanings behind them?
That's in one of my other WDYWK vids. Just check out the Playlist.
what I wanna know is have you listened to HORSE the band yet?! ive asked before lol I just know its right up your ally and wanna hear your opinion. My favorite band hands down. You should also check out Downstaaiirs. The guys from Heavy Heavy Low Lows new band, very very good.
My first metal concert was Carcass, who's music i enjoy alot. I'm not really into extreme metal, but I do indeed like Carcass, untill i heard the concert. They were playing at Roskilde Festival at 14:00, but it was an absolute disaster. They were so arogant and they were just plain bad. I haven't really felt like listening to any extreme metal since then and have been taking a break from them. Any idea's to what to extreme metal I could listen to? I really wonna get started again.
Extreme metal is a pretty broad term, so apologise if I miss the mark, but Suffocation's Pierced From Within is one of my favourites.
Strapping Young Lad. The album City to be more exact. Also check out the singer from that band- Devin Townsend. That guy is crazy. He released like 15 albums ranging from embiental music to extreme metal to noise.
Thank you, this really helps.
so mike you don,t like shadows fall but like overcast?i mean you do know they have the same singer right?
Yup. Fully aware. But neither of those bands sound even remotely similar at all.
Myke what do you think about Killswitch Engage(pre Howard Jones departure)?
I was never a fan of them at all. I never really got the appeal.
Oh alright. Thanks for answering. I like that you keep shit real and aren't afraid to speak your mind. One could argue that many people do that but you do it intelligently and I respect that.
I feel like a black person at a Metal concert is slightly more likely to be cool, and exponentially more likely to not be a racist douche. Are they really that wrong for picking you to talk to? For me I guess it would depend on how comfortable or awkward they were talking to me.
William Cory I was talking about punk shows. So, typically, the likelihood of anyone there being racist would be very low. It was very clear that they were only talking to me because I was black and they wanted to show that they were cool with me being there. My point is the best way to make me feel comfortable would be to treat me like everyone else there. Talk to me if you have a real reason to. Not just because you think it's cool that there's a black guy in a place where black guys normally wouldn't go.
Myke C-Town
I think that what you've pointed out here really underscores some serious issues at the moment in the 'white liberal' culture. As a white person who has a fairly ethnically diverse circle of friends, I find that remaining grounded and unpretentious around those friends has probably made them my most loyal and emotionally open friendships.
This is of course nice, but it saddens me somewhat that they obviously experience a world that unconsciously segregates people; whether it be via attitudes or tastes, and the tribalism that seems to form around such lifestyles. A lot of white people are more into the idea of appearing accepting in front of others rather than actually having a black friend or whatever.
It's extremely superficial and toxic, and in my opinion has been perpetuated by the 'being seen to be' culture of vain consumerism. These attitudes damage the sincerity of the communal relationships that life should be about in the first place.
...sorry that went a bit out there
i feel a homie like him i dont see color because metal and like mined
Hey Mike , I listen to a lot of NSBM and i dont give a fuck about their lyrics or about what they hate. It all comes down to the music , I mean , I can never see myself living without listening to Nokturnal Mortum , Temnozor , Kataxu and so on. Yea , I dont agree with their view on the world and on people, but god damn , the music is so damn great. Fun fact : a lot of people who listen to NSBM think like me . :) Peace and love your shit.
what do you think of bad brains
Lol at the beginning I thought you were gonna pull a Gaahl and say SATAN when you took the drink
So no review on Directors of Photography?
Woah.
I didn't even know that NSBM and other shit like that was actually a thing.
Haven't heard of any Berzum ever, so thanks for the warning man.
Myke the Kid C Town!
good insight
' clothes and records, that's my thang '
are you me? fifteen pairs of shoes in the closet :~)
Just cant get into black or death metal, the only rock i would listen to is bands like nirvana, alice in chains, wavves, QOTSA. Cant listen to something purposely extreme fr the sake of it. I generally stick to hip hop now, groups like the underachievers, pro era, clear soul forces.
My nigga, my nigga! Thanks for the post.
But do you even lift bro?
Myke C-Town LoL
Myke C-Town Strong teabagging, how many reps?
awesome intro
The magic spell against stupid racism in rock music is: Jimi Hendrix. Just call his spirit and his ghost will come trash everything around with his super fire-guitar. Nah, but it would make a good videogame. I'm thinking, something better than Michael Jackson's Moonwalker, but along the line (it really wasn't bad).
Neurozumim Hahahah! I used to LOVE that Moonwalker game! I had it on Genesis. I wish I still had it!
Myke's new nemisis, Pillsbury Satan.
As for the question of MBTI, it really doesn't describe you as a person at all, it just describes how you think most of the time. It has to do more with what types of cognitive processes your brain prioritizes than how you act, the reason why it can be interesting to know is that while everyone can do everything, which is absolutely true, some types tend to be really good at specific things. And some types tend to come with quirks that people with said type shares
And that said, as someone who is quite interested in this subject, I would say you look up ENFP instead of ESFP.
I get that I sound like a judgmental asshole lol, but the "DON'T PUT ME IN A BOX" was a dead givaway.
Think of MBTI as someone that describes how a puzzle comes to together, it doesn't change the picture in the end, just points out all the different parts that make it come together
Keep up the good work, you are definitely someone I look up to :D
PS: Opinions on Gojira? Cause I find them fucking amazing, who thought lyrics about the environment and saving whales could be soo metal!
Hey you get that package I sent?
Prince Raw D Nope. Hopefully no one stole it!
Reminded me of Potamus.
That intro
Just out of curiosity are you into the war on drugs?
the band not the policy haha
damn thats fucked up,i liked burzum.i just discovered them
I still have 3 Rock Video Monthly VHS Tapes, haha
No shit?!?! Hahaha! That rules!!! I wish I still had mine!
i was once at a grind-core concert and I had this thing where I raised my right arm and yelled "join us, join the right wing", and suddenly there was this skinhead in fornt of me looking all pissed thinking I was making fun of him, luckily there were two badass bold dudes with me, standing right behind, so it ant all right :-)
Black metal
Wow. You know who Mike Carroll and Sean Sheffey are. Didn't expect you to know about skateboarding. Lol
I skated throughout most of my youth. Those were my role models.
why did you stop?!?!? lol
Torn Meniscus Fucked up my knee and my shoulder. Then skating just got to where it wasn't that fun anymore. It wasn't about smooth lines or doing big shit. It was just about how ridiculously technical you could be. I got bored with the industry. I still enjoy watching vids and still have a board, but I don't ride anymore.
Damn I hate that for you... I feel you 100%, the industry has changed. The only thing these new kids care about is their image and what and how many tricks you can do. The majority of them don't give a fuck about style, creativity, and just having fun.
Satanic Warmaster was NSBM?
is*
Yes and no. The main guy behind it has ties to the movement. The True Werewolf (one of his many other bands) is for the most part NS and it was rumored that he was one of the members of White Wolves Kommando. SW has done splits with NS bands and has been associated with some sketchy shit, but I wouldn't say its full on NSBM.
***** They're not directly NSBM as far as I know. But their connections are far too much for me to tolerate. Plus, I've read some of their lyrics and they're clearly leaning towards Nazism. If they're not Nazis they're trying to pretend they are just to appear more extreme than others...which is just as lame. I think it's a bit different from people like Douglas Pierce who has given plenty of clues to him not being racist while playing around with WWII imagery. Still sketchy, but not as much as SW blatantly having lyrics that have Nazi leanings. Plus they fucking suck anyway.
Myke C-Town
Well what about Death in June and other Industrial/Neofolk Bands you listen to? (Asked you about that on your page but you didn't respond yet)
bad hair .day Yeah, I mentioned that in the comment above. I think Douglas P flirts with the whole WW2 imagery in a really silly shock rock kinda way. I'm about 90% sure he's not a Nazi. He just doesn't care to quell the rumors because he probably finds it entertaining and he gets a separate fanbase off it. If irrefutable proof were to come out about Douglas P being a Nazi, I'd have no choice but to get rid of their records. Until then, I dig some DI6.
Dat intro doe....
he started each question off calmly and got super mad by the end yellin and shit
MBTI... Well, that escalated quickly.
I hope, you stumble upon the indicator one day again and reconsider your views, cuz my man Carl Jung was a muhfuckin' genius and it's A-MAH-ZING.
(Look up the functions...)
Burzum's imitators are way better than Burzum itself anyway. You can totally skip Burzum because there has been way better BM made from Xasthur and such without the fucking Nazis.
I don’t see how you could give the other DEHH guys shit for wanting to review Kanye after his slave comments, but then you’ll still give money to proud racists
ooooooooohhhhh you were spelling your name lol
I never listen to bands that I know are racist, but Burzum is kind of different. Bcs first of all it's just one guy, and second of all it's not that he's just racist- he's an anti-Christian, church-burning murderer. Plus, the one person he did kill was another white guy. To me, Varg is just traditional crazy, and his racism doesn't even come into the picture. It's like if a some radical Muslim had a metal band, but he was all anti-white or anti-black, wouldn't you still kind of listen to him? I know it's different with white people, but Varg is from a white country that has never been a colonial power, so to me he's just a crazy guy hell bent on his ancient local culture. And I'm cool with that. Not the church-burning and people-killing stuff of course.
I dunno about this one at all, man. Now, before I start, I'll repeat that I don't care what another person listens to. That's totally his business. And even though this video is three years old I still believe that. Maybe even more so now. Moving past that I think, a lot of times, it's not really logical to try to come up with logical reasons as to why you listen to a racist's music. Varg is no exception to the rule in any way, shape or form. I don't think that the band being only one person makes a difference at all. I also don't think him having other groups he hates makes a difference. It just means that his bigotry is less focused. I also don't think he's traditionally "crazy" at all. Varg is a very intelligent man. From his reasons for why he hates Christians in his country to why he killed a man to why he believes in racial separation...he presents compelling arguments for all (even if I don't agree with him). The ignorant racists aren't the ones to fear as far as organizing and actually affecting large groups of people or legislation. (They're just the ones stupid enough to actually carry through on random acts of violence.) It's the smart ones like Varg who have the ability to present their racism in a way that makes sense to people and makes it excusable that are a real threat. All that being said...listen to Burzum all you want. I do. Because I think that's really what this boils down to. He makes good music so you wanna listen to it. So just do that.
I don't know if I can call Varg intelligent. To me he's a deeply confused pagan dork. That's the best way I can put it. Otherwise I completely agree with what you're saying. Also, I'm well aware that what I wrote kind of makes me look like I might be ok with Breivik, which, just for the record, I totally am not.
But overall, yeah, I would have to agree that those silent manifesto types probably do gather more followers, and ultimately do present a bigger danger than the likes of Nugent or Anselmo.
Also, I don't really listen to Burzum lately. I used to when I was in my late teens and early 20's. Kind of gotten tired of it, as well as the entire black metal scene. I mostly only listen to stuff like Oathbreaker and Mamaleek now.
Anywho, thanks for the reply, man )
!FUPA!
Bach, 12 semi tones, modes, scales.....the origin. Who stole.from who? Gotta stop the bullshit, music defies small mindedness....in most cases
9:20 oh my god, don't be so oversensitive.. how is trying to make you feel nice being racist? damn
OMG, don't be so fucking naive. Did you bother to listen to the entire segment or stop it in the middle just to leave this comment? If not, I very clearly said "leave me alone unless you really have a reason to come talk to me." Meaning, don't wander over to me just for the simple reason of talking to the lone black guy. That shit is see through as hell. If you sincerely wanna chat, then cool. Otherwise, treat me like you would treat every other person there. That's the best way to make someone at home, even if you do actually think they're different.
I listened to the entire thing.
You even said you're more punk than them, but when they try to emphasis that you get offended. By them saying you're cool because you're black and into certain things they're basically doing the same thing you did (saying that you're more punk than them). I realize that might be annoying but I personally think there's much more important issues regarding racism to talk and be angry about. Again, I entirely understood what you wanted to say but i don't think it should've invoked such reaction...
pegatrisedmice Let me ask you this. Do you know how this works? People send me questions. I answer them. So yes, there are much more important issues regarding racism and when they are sent to me, I'll answer them. Now that that's out of the way...
You clearly did NOT listen to the whole thing. I'll tell you what's annoying. The fact that I'm basically having to transcribe my video to you. Who said they were talking to me to emphasize how punk I am? That's ridiculous. I very clearly said that it's obvious that the reason they are talking to me is not because they actually think I'm cool or because I'm "so punk." They're doing it because it makes THEM look cool because they're talking to the perceived outcast. It's a way of making others see them in a good light. Not them seeing me in any certain light. When you're a black kid who has been in the scene for as long as I have, you notice the difference. Maybe you should actually go talk to a few about that.
BTW, since you seemed to have missed this, too, my "black guy is more punk than you" comment was a very tongue-in-cheek way of saying that I have every right and reason to be at a punk show as a white person and should not be seen as odd.
Lastly, who the hell are YOU to tell me how I should react to things? I don't know you and you don't know me. A good rule of thumb is don't go around telling members of minority groups (which you do not belong to) how to feel about situations. If you disagree, good for you. But attempting to invalidate their experiences by inserting you rather irrelevant assumptions into it is not only pointless, but rude.
guess i'm stupid and racist then
pegatrisedmice Good for you. Congrats on some self realization.