Dude, thank you for your insightful thoughts on feminism in music. So many modern men can't discuss this subject without getting overly emotional and resentful.
Great video Myke. Very healthy discussion about feminism. When I met my girlfriend three years ago she turned me onto feminist theory and it completely changed the way I look at the world. I agree that it's very easy to get caught up in gender politics (at least I think that's what you were getting at with your story about the drummer) and start applying the feminist critique to everything you encounter. I think a healthy approach to feminism is to be critical of not only patriarchal systems but also of yourself and how and when you apply a feminist critique. To be honest, I had no idea what your stance on feminism was before watching this video and I was curious how you would approach the topic seeing as you're a hip-hop fan. I have the same issue it seems - I love hip-hop, but there's some instances of misogyny in rap music that is unbearable (good example - almost the entirety of The Chronic 2001. I WISH I could listen to "Xxplosive" and not feel sickened). And lastly, big ups on the Slint mention. Spiderland is one of my all-time favorites.
Loved the Moz shirt and the talk about feminism. As a guy, I usually call myself a feminist by definition, because that's true and it can prove it. Anything more than that would be complicated. I'm not sure what age you stopped calling yourself a feminist, but I'm 17.
Amazing shirt Myke, I saw on your IG that you saw Moz in Atlanta I think (before he was taken ill in hospital again). I'm so jealous - I do hope he comes back to the UK for a few shows before the inevitable retirement.
Pissed Jeans have a song that basically focuses on that feminist issue of male mindsets (or even programming?), especially in music. 'Male Gaze', well worth a listen.
I'm not a fan of Pissed Jeans at all, but I did go ahead and listen to (most of) that song. I read all the lyrics though. Pretty good. I definitely get the aspect of how we treat women in music. Judging before they make a sound. Instant dismissal or over exaggerating skill in order to make ourselves feel better about ourselves.
will you be reviewing "niggas on the moon"? You most definitely should. I would really dig seeing your opinion on the project, and I know a lot of your other fans would as well.
When I worked for my school newspaper last semester at Allapachian State, I asked my EIC if I could cover Moogfest and he obliged. I already had tickets and was going to attend before I decided to cover it, but I applied for a Press Pass on a whim and I was amazed at how easy it was to get one. All the people at Moogfest asked was that my EIC send them an e-mail detailing that I was not going to scam them for a free ticket, and I had to send them a link to the subsequent articles I wrote that were associated with Moogfest. It is not hard at all. Seeing as your page and DEHH are credible and have a large following, I don't see why you would have trouble getting a pass. They won't cover for travel and board, though. That's the kicker haha
aw man... legitimately curious to hear what your job is. oh well. did you make it to FYF? run the jewels + darkside were two of the best shows i've ever seen.
Great video big fan really respect what you do...and i was wondering if you had good picks for some different hip hop im really tired of the same old and just cant seem to find good lyrical some what dark and influential music hit me back if you think of any thing
I feel like calling yourself a feminist, whether male or female, is a misnomer unless you actively support the feminist cause, I feel like most people who identify as being a feminist are more of the "feminist sympathizer" types you mentioned (although that really DOES sound negative) who just agree and passively support the feminist movement. Not saying that theres anything wrong with passive support, but passively agreeing with feminism and calling myself a feminist sounds like the equivalent of me passively supporting animal rights and calling myself an animal rights activist. I just think terms like feminist should be reserved for people working hard to be proactive to the cause.
I feel the same way about being a "male feminist". I agree with primary things of feminism but there are some things that I cannot get down with because it is too ridiculous for me to get angry about lol but thank you for putting it into words. I do feel like I am also a "feminist sympathizer"
Chief Keef is my guilty pleasure, he's THE GREATEST RAPPER IN THE WORLD but i can't defend him if someone says he sucks tho lol only thing i can say is he lives what he raps?
StokeCityFC44 Nope , "ear for melody" is not even something you can point out on Keef..'cause if so , than a lot of people could be rappers , if you present them the beat like Young Chop did to Keef , they can tell which ones bang the most. A rapper/mc isn't evaluated by his "ear for melody" , it's by his vocal ability , lyrical ability. He got nothing oing on.Put him with trinidad james , migos and others on the same spot. Anyway , if you like it..go ahead.
Myke C-Town definitely agree with your statements on feminism, misogyny, etc. Have you heard about or read about recent statements that we live in a rape culture? That's something that I can't fully agree with. I think it's a bit of an extreme statement, along with statements claiming that "we are all guilty of (fill in the blank)". I don't appreciate my entire gender being lumped in with the negative actions of the few. Just my opinion.
Yes, I've heard about the idea that we live in a rape culture. I wouldn't call those recent statements. That's been around for years. I also wouldn't say it's all that extreme either. We live in a VERY patriarchal society where rape is often times ignored or excused. I mean, when you break it down into the criteria that it takes to be considered a rape culture, we come very close. Victim blaming is constant. So is the trivialization of rape itself (look at all the rappers who make jokes out of rape). You saying how you don't appreciate your entire gender being lumped in with the negative actions of a few is precisely the problem. You need to stop making these situations about you. When a woman describes the issues that affect her, men instantly wanna get defensive. "I don't do that! I've never done that!" etc. That's not the issue. You are one person. The point is this stuff happens. And it happens on a regular basis. Just because you're not racist are you going to say that racism doesn't exist? Even if it's not prevalent in your community are you going to say it's absent in all or even most other communities? And if you're going to get up in arms about the male gender being lumped together in a negative way, do you do that when it comes to the female gender? Do you stand up when your friends say "women are whores?"
Hold up....You don't like Chief Keef? You sure we are related because that is one of the illest dudes in the game man! That new album of his was straight fire! Murder rate skyrocketed so that should let you know he's real. I'm unsubbing. I...I...I just can't believe this
Al Hamad Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn. What's more "gay?" What I said in my video or sticking up for another man in a UA-cam comment section? You homophobes kill me. BTW. You've been blocked. Congrats.
Krishtie Mofazzal Politically Correct. Basically, I take it to mean you're biting your tongue or watching your language around people just because it's not socially acceptable to say certain things in public versus you actually having a genuine concern about these things or respect for people of different social groups than your own.
I thought so. I definitely see your point. People seem to use it too much as a defense when they don't have anything else valid to say. Glad you think so too.
Krishtie Mofazzal Exactly! It's really irritating. It's just like calling someone a hipster as a way to invalidate their tastes in anything. So juvenile.
I'm feminist to the point where if I'm at some art or music festival, and there's just men artists around, I'm going to think "ok, what's wrong here?". Also, somewhere I think I prefer women voice in vocal music. In hip hop, when Roxanne Shanté came up, it wasn't a question of wrether she was equal to her peers, it was just that I liked the voice. But hip hop is a lot centered about "dude" issues that I don't feel concerned about, so I'm mostly listening to hip hop that's underground or if the music's worth it (I admit I like Tyler The Creator though he can be a goof.. I guess I'm a cliché hipster). I think the new Minaj track is a fine piece of pop. But my no.2 album last year was Kelela's Cut 4 Me tape, and that's R&B, but over hip hop tracks, and I don't find a lot of hip hop with that dark vibe (like the track Enemy). I want stuff like that, where is it?
Hey. Out of curiosity are you male or female? Just trying to gauge the voice, here. But I agree about hip hop being centered around male issues. It's always kinda been like that. Especially the machismo aspect of it. It all revolves around men, their issues, their ideas and their perspectives. It's a struggle for women to break into that scene. And when they do, it's almost like they have to discuss these same male issues because when they discuss female issues, men can't connect and they instantly become disinterested. Never heard of Kelela. I'll have to look her up.
Myke C-Town Thanks for reading. I'm just yet another dude. Kelela is recently featured on a single/video by Bok Bok that left me cold, so it's rather important the producer when you sing (or rap) over other people's music. Her Cut 4 Me tape was great, but the choice of producers played a big role for me.
I guess i could be called a feminist, but i really don´t like to consider myself one. It´s not really the extremists that give the movement a bad image, but more so because i am for equal treadment of both women and men. I understand that the term comes from the fact that women have been systematically oppressed, so to reach the goal of equal rights you must fight for the womens right first. But nowadays, there are gender expectations on both sides, i feel even more for men, because the mentality of the emanzipated independent woman is widely accepted, but most man still have the strong identification with the masculine stereotype, and like you said "feminine" or "gay" is an insult, even if most people have nothing against homosexuals, they think it´s insulting to a hetero that he is anything but a masculine testosterone bomb. How about an equalist movement?
Its hard to listen to most female rappers cause I feel like they 99/100 are showing themselves as what male rappers say. Pretty much the only female rapper I can actually enjoy based on her music is snow. To be fair though I've only tried listening to a few
Dude, thank you for your insightful thoughts on feminism in music. So many modern men can't discuss this subject without getting overly emotional and resentful.
I dunno...a ten minute rant...some might say I was over emotional.
Magic Myke
Best WDYWK episode yet. BANG BANG
Jesus Myke, you're on a roll. Great video, man.
Thanks, man.
Myke C-Town The second half of this video was just awesome !
are you forreal on the male stripper thing? thats kinda dope lol
you're really well-spoken. You're my new favourite at the moment
Krishtie Mofazzal That's sweet. Thank you!
I know Feefo would probably like that Chief Keef album if y'all were to review it lol. "it bumps in the whip."
Feefo be like "well if you dont listen to it while u listenin' to it...its pretty dope"
Madd Erryday
or: "I just can't fuck with it, man, I just can't...I just can't..."
Great video Myke. Very healthy discussion about feminism. When I met my girlfriend three years ago she turned me onto feminist theory and it completely changed the way I look at the world. I agree that it's very easy to get caught up in gender politics (at least I think that's what you were getting at with your story about the drummer) and start applying the feminist critique to everything you encounter. I think a healthy approach to feminism is to be critical of not only patriarchal systems but also of yourself and how and when you apply a feminist critique.
To be honest, I had no idea what your stance on feminism was before watching this video and I was curious how you would approach the topic seeing as you're a hip-hop fan. I have the same issue it seems - I love hip-hop, but there's some instances of misogyny in rap music that is unbearable (good example - almost the entirety of The Chronic 2001. I WISH I could listen to "Xxplosive" and not feel sickened).
And lastly, big ups on the Slint mention. Spiderland is one of my all-time favorites.
Wow. I really enjoyed this WDYWK, Myke. I know it can be difficult to discuss feminism as a guy, so props for that. LOL at the Chief Keef reaction.
Great to find another Blood Brothers fan! They've been my favorite band for almost a decade now.
Loved the Moz shirt and the talk about feminism. As a guy, I usually call myself a feminist by definition, because that's true and it can prove it. Anything more than that would be complicated. I'm not sure what age you stopped calling yourself a feminist, but I'm 17.
Amazing shirt Myke, I saw on your IG that you saw Moz in Atlanta I think (before he was taken ill in hospital again). I'm so jealous - I do hope he comes back to the UK for a few shows before the inevitable retirement.
Pissed Jeans have a song that basically focuses on that feminist issue of male mindsets (or even programming?), especially in music. 'Male Gaze', well worth a listen.
I'm not a fan of Pissed Jeans at all, but I did go ahead and listen to (most of) that song. I read all the lyrics though. Pretty good. I definitely get the aspect of how we treat women in music. Judging before they make a sound. Instant dismissal or over exaggerating skill in order to make ourselves feel better about ourselves.
Myke saves up all the singles shoved in his g-string to buy all of his records. It all makes sense now.
when that skull speedo came out i died. idgaf if u actually do that or not, that shit was hilarious.
2 things:
1: Morrissey :)
2: I can't tell if you are trolling or not about your occupation.
Slowdive and Slint were perfect at Primavera Sound!!!
The term you're looking for is ally. You'd be a feminist ally
I loved the second half of your video in particular :)
Myke, you always speak of Atmosphere. I've never listened, but I want to give them a try. Which project should I start with ?
will you be reviewing "niggas on the moon"? You most definitely should. I would really dig seeing your opinion on the project, and I know a lot of your other fans would as well.
It's on my channel.
When I worked for my school newspaper last semester at Allapachian State, I asked my EIC if I could cover Moogfest and he obliged. I already had tickets and was going to attend before I decided to cover it, but I applied for a Press Pass on a whim and I was amazed at how easy it was to get one. All the people at Moogfest asked was that my EIC send them an e-mail detailing that I was not going to scam them for a free ticket, and I had to send them a link to the subsequent articles I wrote that were associated with Moogfest. It is not hard at all. Seeing as your page and DEHH are credible and have a large following, I don't see why you would have trouble getting a pass. They won't cover for travel and board, though. That's the kicker haha
aw man... legitimately curious to hear what your job is. oh well.
did you make it to FYF? run the jewels + darkside were two of the best shows i've ever seen.
Nah. Unfortunately I didn't. They wouldn't give me a pass. I'm super bummed to have missed Blood Brothers and Slowdive. But oh wells...
It would be a good laugh to see you guys review chief keef though lol :)
Man I watched DDEH & this is my first time watching one of your videos & I like it already, Where do I send a question?
Feefo would think Bang 3 bumps in the whip
Chief Keef does bump in the whip tho..
That response to the chief keef review though
Great video big fan really respect what you do...and i was wondering if you had good picks for some different hip hop im really tired of the same old and just cant seem to find good lyrical some what dark and influential music hit me back if you think of any thing
Thank you for your videos! You are simply amazing! Thank you.
...Torres dies on NY Undercover? *A single tear drips from my eye as I begin to question finishing the show*
Yo, Pitchfork Music Fest in Chicago isnt sold out yet and they have Death Grips, Slowdive, and Deafheaven, just fyi, if that interests you, Myke.
Nice Moz shirt. had one like that but it was a Seven Generations shirt
I feel like calling yourself a feminist, whether male or female, is a misnomer unless you actively support the feminist cause, I feel like most people who identify as being a feminist are more of the "feminist sympathizer" types you mentioned (although that really DOES sound negative) who just agree and passively support the feminist movement. Not saying that theres anything wrong with passive support, but passively agreeing with feminism and calling myself a feminist sounds like the equivalent of me passively supporting animal rights and calling myself an animal rights activist. I just think terms like feminist should be reserved for people working hard to be proactive to the cause.
Right on! Agree 100%.
Are you gonna go to the outkast concert in Atlanta?
All three shows sold out before I could get a ticket. And I don't care to pay those inflated prices. So fuck it. Guess I'm gonna miss out.
Slowdive reunion has got me so excited, and when they eventually record the new album. Hope they don't do that folk Mojave 3 bollocks.
Now I just really REALLY want to see that Star Wars leprechaun scene...
Time capsule appreciation
Iwk your thoughts on the new Body Count album?
Haven't heard it yet, but "Talk Shit, Get Shot" is hilariously awesome.
it changed from BAM to BANG. I hope your live shows aren't as inconsistent, I definitely wouldn't throw dem bands.
I feel the same way about being a "male feminist". I agree with primary things of feminism but there are some things that I cannot get down with because it is too ridiculous for me to get angry about lol but thank you for putting it into words. I do feel like I am also a "feminist sympathizer"
Are you going to review the new Ab-Soul project "These Days..."?
Dalek, all you need for that type of sound
Chief Keef is my guilty pleasure, he's THE GREATEST RAPPER IN THE WORLD but i can't defend him if someone says he sucks tho lol only thing i can say is he lives what he raps?
this
one defence is he creates (created?) good melodies even if he only has simplistic bars
João Fernandes Music wise , he's terrible. Zero flow and lyrical ability. The allure is all in Young Chop beats. Saudações gloriosas.
conflict1904 nah his ear for melody is unrivalled in rap today. maybe not the best but nobody has sounded like he does/did in his prime
StokeCityFC44 Nope , "ear for melody" is not even something you can point out on Keef..'cause if so , than a lot of people could be rappers , if you present them the beat like Young Chop did to Keef , they can tell which ones bang the most. A rapper/mc isn't evaluated by his "ear for melody" , it's by his vocal ability , lyrical ability. He got nothing oing on.Put him with trinidad james , migos and others on the same spot. Anyway , if you like it..go ahead.
Myke C-Town definitely agree with your statements on feminism, misogyny, etc. Have you heard about or read about recent statements that we live in a rape culture? That's something that I can't fully agree with. I think it's a bit of an extreme statement, along with statements claiming that "we are all guilty of (fill in the blank)". I don't appreciate my entire gender being lumped in with the negative actions of the few. Just my opinion.
Yes, I've heard about the idea that we live in a rape culture. I wouldn't call those recent statements. That's been around for years. I also wouldn't say it's all that extreme either. We live in a VERY patriarchal society where rape is often times ignored or excused. I mean, when you break it down into the criteria that it takes to be considered a rape culture, we come very close. Victim blaming is constant. So is the trivialization of rape itself (look at all the rappers who make jokes out of rape).
You saying how you don't appreciate your entire gender being lumped in with the negative actions of a few is precisely the problem. You need to stop making these situations about you. When a woman describes the issues that affect her, men instantly wanna get defensive. "I don't do that! I've never done that!" etc. That's not the issue. You are one person. The point is this stuff happens. And it happens on a regular basis. Just because you're not racist are you going to say that racism doesn't exist? Even if it's not prevalent in your community are you going to say it's absent in all or even most other communities?
And if you're going to get up in arms about the male gender being lumped together in a negative way, do you do that when it comes to the female gender? Do you stand up when your friends say "women are whores?"
The thong took me off guard 😂
Good video. Subbed
Thanks, man!
Hold up....You don't like Chief Keef? You sure we are related because that is one of the illest dudes in the game man! That new album of his was straight fire! Murder rate skyrocketed so that should let you know he's real. I'm unsubbing. I...I...I just can't believe this
Hahahahhahah! You're stupid as hell!!!!!!! Ain' t no way in shitsville I can see you listening to that!
Al Hamad Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn. What's more "gay?" What I said in my video or sticking up for another man in a UA-cam comment section? You homophobes kill me. BTW. You've been blocked. Congrats.
Myke C-Town "Sometimes You Gotta get a little gay" -Cage Kennylz
Myke C-Town Was not sure if that clown was joking or not. Guess I know now.
***** Yeah, bro. These trolls are pretty pathetic. Ten bucks says he'll be emailing me within the week crying to be unblocked. They all do.
'BAM!'
What if there were a secret lost finale of Twin Peaks?
review "A Handshake To the Brain by Hawk House"
Hawk House - Chill Pill (Experiment 2)
They're doing another Leprechaun movie...
OMFG Myke is a stripper ?!?
I want to assume thats Morrissey on C-Town's shirt.
Nope, it's Meatloaf. Sorry.
FIGHT CLUB!!!
Hahahahah this was dope as hell
I'm sorry, but what did he mean by PC?
Krishtie Mofazzal Politically Correct. Basically, I take it to mean you're biting your tongue or watching your language around people just because it's not socially acceptable to say certain things in public versus you actually having a genuine concern about these things or respect for people of different social groups than your own.
I thought so. I definitely see your point. People seem to use it too much as a defense when they don't have anything else valid to say. Glad you think so too.
Krishtie Mofazzal Exactly! It's really irritating. It's just like calling someone a hipster as a way to invalidate their tastes in anything. So juvenile.
^^^^^^ VERY VERY TRUE. Especially the 'hipster' thing, that irritates me the most.
Dude review El Negro by Signor benedick the moor it's awsome weird hip hop
Dessa is my favorite rapper.
I'm feminist to the point where if I'm at some art or music festival, and there's just men artists around, I'm going to think "ok, what's wrong here?". Also, somewhere I think I prefer women voice in vocal music. In hip hop, when Roxanne Shanté came up, it wasn't a question of wrether she was equal to her peers, it was just that I liked the voice. But hip hop is a lot centered about "dude" issues that I don't feel concerned about, so I'm mostly listening to hip hop that's underground or if the music's worth it (I admit I like Tyler The Creator though he can be a goof.. I guess I'm a cliché hipster). I think the new Minaj track is a fine piece of pop. But my no.2 album last year was Kelela's Cut 4 Me tape, and that's R&B, but over hip hop tracks, and I don't find a lot of hip hop with that dark vibe (like the track Enemy). I want stuff like that, where is it?
Hey. Out of curiosity are you male or female? Just trying to gauge the voice, here. But I agree about hip hop being centered around male issues. It's always kinda been like that. Especially the machismo aspect of it. It all revolves around men, their issues, their ideas and their perspectives. It's a struggle for women to break into that scene. And when they do, it's almost like they have to discuss these same male issues because when they discuss female issues, men can't connect and they instantly become disinterested.
Never heard of Kelela. I'll have to look her up.
Myke C-Town Thanks for reading. I'm just yet another dude. Kelela is recently featured on a single/video by Bok Bok that left me cold, so it's rather important the producer when you sing (or rap) over other people's music. Her Cut 4 Me tape was great, but the choice of producers played a big role for me.
Breakdancing leprechauns in phantom menace? Better than Jar Jar...
I guess i could be called a feminist, but i really don´t like to consider myself one. It´s not really the extremists that give the movement a bad image, but more so because i am for equal treadment of both women and men. I understand that the term comes from the fact that women have been systematically oppressed, so to reach the goal of equal rights you must fight for the womens right first. But nowadays, there are gender expectations on both sides, i feel even more for men, because the mentality of the emanzipated independent woman is widely accepted, but most man still have the strong identification with the masculine stereotype, and like you said "feminine" or "gay" is an insult, even if most people have nothing against homosexuals, they think it´s insulting to a hetero that he is anything but a masculine testosterone bomb. How about an equalist movement?
Chief Keef got some great songs tho. Sooooooo... yeah.
Hahahah they're really making another leprechaun movie!
Bang!
hard eddy boy.
I don't get it
imma pretend that c-town really is a stripper
I knew from reading the title of the video he was going to have some reaction lmao :):):):):):):):):)
chief keef Sosa, bang bang Glo
Its hard to listen to most female rappers cause I feel like they 99/100 are showing themselves as what male rappers say. Pretty much the only female rapper I can actually enjoy based on her music is snow. To be fair though I've only tried listening to a few
11:05 women's rights vs oversexualization of women emcees
I believe in equality, That's why I'm not ok with modern day feminism.
Explain, please?
"when you’re accustomed to a privilege, equality feels like oppression"
The Gender Equality Paradox - Documentary NRK - 2011
You are a humanist, or in this case, an ally for feminists. I hope this is the right term to choose :)
#ViolenceIsViolence: Domestic abuse advert Mankind
What about just calling yourself a supporter of equal rights?
That's boring. Buzz words are the latest craze. Get with the times or get left behind, dude.
...was that stripper thing a joke?
lol
Lol, pretty uncomfortable.