What I like about metal is it really is NOT racist. Look what happens when there's a heavy band that's latino, black or any other race. If they're heavy and sound good... nobody cares. Still buy the albums. With metal, it feels not racist. Example: black country singer, white rapper or an Asian bluegrass band. Would feel odd honestly but if any are metal bands... it can fit.
I have gotten into fights at black metal shows because I am a black man that's into metal. The music itself usually isn't on a racist tip. But some fans though that's a different story.
I"m Black, in my 50's now, been to MANY, hard rock, metal shows, never experienced any real negative vibe. Yeah sure in the parking lot, every once in awhile with everyone drinking, etc, I might hear something but hey, it is what it is. Now, I just go to the Old School shows, Priest, Maiden etc. BTW...my favorites Lemmy/RJDio...RIP Damn, miss them Big Time!
I've been listening to metal since the mid 80's and seen about 200 bands. I seen Pantera on all of their 90's albums and I'm also from Texas; never had a problem at any of those shows! To me, being a metalhead is knowing that you're in a brotherhood of individuals connected by our taste in music and our unwillingness to follow pop culture. \m/\m/
To be honest, I actually found the metal community to be the most welcoming community. No one really cares where you're from, we just come and share our love for the music. Sure, there are racists as well such as Phil and Varg, but they're in a minority, and let's face it, what group doesn't have its own racists? Some people are assholes, it's just a part of life.
Unfortunately, racism will always exist. You will find racist people no matter where you go. Judging people because of the music that they listen to isn't really "right" for lack of a better word. People are allowed to voice their opinions, and we live in a day and age where you can't actually say anything without somebody getting offended. Some statements will offend more people, but that doesn't mean you're not allowed to say what's on your mind.
' RACE ' does not exist , race is an invention of the social engineers to divide & conquer the general populous, the word ' RACE ' is a competition , in a car race the black & white checkered flag is waved to declare the winner , the floor of the house in freemasonry is a black & white checkerboard which signifies base mentality . The so called ' ELITES ' want us to kill eachother , and it works because most people are ignorant FOOLS !...Conspiracy means ' to breathe together ' , Respire-inspire-conspire...boo-hoo.
In my personal opinion: you nailed it on the head. The genre it's not racist. There are racists and racist subject in the genre, but not the genre as a whole. Metal is the musical outlet for countless "races" (I use quotations because I'm not a fan of the use of the term. Last time I checked, we're all members of the human RACE, it doesn't scientifically divide us on color), ethnicities and belief systems the world wide.
Neanderthals were a different race but we're all homo sapiens (probably with some neanderthal-parts) and therefore one race. The use of the term in the english language is hugely annoying and plainly wrong.
Me and my friends are Mexicans and we love Metal. In Mexico City it's the home of rock and metal music. So if anyone says it's racist or for whites is just arrogant.
I agree with you but also anyone making racist comments on stage or not will have to deal with the freedom of speech of others criticism toward their comments. So Freedom of speech works both ways. & Hey this is coming from a black man who grew up on the pantera sound who met Dimebag months before his untimely passing. If you're a legendary figure in music and you make a controversial statement prepare for the controversy cause it will come
Thank you for this. I'm a 38 year old metalhead who happens to be "African American" or Black. I'm also a HUGE PanterA fan. Throughout my childhood growing up on the East side of San Antonio, TX which was a Black community I was the constant sore thumb everywhere I went. My answer is "No. Metal is NOT racist." In fact I feel more at ease in a metal crowd/concert than anywhere else and I suffer from anxiety. I recall NUMBEROUS times being picked on by other Black students and adults for the styles of music I like and the way I dress(ed). I can only recall less than a handful of times it coming from White people. Now don't get me wrong I'm proud of my heritage and ethnicity. I'm nobody's Uncle Tom but I also agree that no one should not be proud of who and what they are. I've seen PanterA at least 5 times in my day and those were some of thee most welcoming shows I've attended. But as a fan I KNOW what a band is about when I go. PanterA is a proud Southern band. With that comes some terrirorial views to say the least from their audience. We all alreasy know Phil has been and probably still will be a dick at times. If fat Phil stumbling around drunk is the definition of White power then people who want that can have fun with it. I'll be in the front seat of the bus reading a Chuck D interview. 😃 Again, Thank you for this. I've subscibed and will be continuing to watch your videos. Feel free to check out mine. 🤘
Metal is no more racist than any other industry. Individuals are racist, metal is not. Slayer, Sepultura, GOD FORBID, Deftones, RATM,- there's lots of prominent metal bands with members of an ethnic background. Just because the majority of heavy metal bands comprise of caucasions from the West & Northern Europe doesn't make metal an issue of racism. Metal is a platform for anyone to engage & enjoy. Metal as a racist genre of music is an utterly ridiculous notion. Racism is just another point of attack for people who don't like metal. It's the same irrational ignorance that tries to paint Rammstein as a band of Nazis.
Cheer up and enjoy the present. Populism and nationalism is the new trend. Therefore hit the bar like there is no tomorrow. Alcohol is what keeps history teachers alive to tell you all about how an economic crisis caused civil unrest, unemployment, poverty, low or stagnant growth, low inflation or even deflation which led to populist demagogoues seizing power, slaughtering the minorities alongside with the intellectuals (cause they're often viewed as elitist) and the ruling elite to dismantle our cherished democratic institutions and finally wage a new world war and blow up the world.
I'm a black man and I loved metal since I was 13 am now 28. I got myself a guitar, albums and dove head first into it and I've never looked back. At least for me personally I have experienced nothing but love and support from the metal community. Gone to quite a bit of shows and the looks I get when I actually know my shit is heartwarming, and recently having a battle vest I get so many looks and good feedback. The metal community is something that the uneducated like to shit on but if they were part of it will realize it's accepting of all races, gender, look etc as long as you're there for the same goal to enjoy the hell out of the band people will embrace that. I am not the most social guy but at a metal concert I don't know what comes over me but I open up, I'm engaging in conversation I'm like a whole different person and that's the beauty of metal! \m/
Darius Evan - Right on man. We listen to our music with our ears, not our eyes. We listen to the best music..fucking metal. I don't care what color the performer is. I just want to listen to the best...and what happens to be the best? Fucking metal.
I appreciate the fuck out of this video! Racism in the metal community needs to be talked about. I'm metal head and a non-white person and it gets OLD having to defend being brown at shows
+Nemo Forever Like I said, just because you haven't heard or seen it, or you don't think that way, doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I mean if it didn't happen, why would there be videos and discussions about it? And I live in San Francisco, which is one of the most diverse places in North America. Unfortunately it happens everywhere, dude. I'm not saying it's metal or the metal community that's racist, I'm saying (like he said in the video) there are some people who are racist and who listen to metal, and I've just experience it more in-your-face than some people.
+Nemo Forever Thanks, I appreciate it. Nothing is gonna stop me from going to shows and loving metal, and I appreciate the vast majority of metalheads who see me as just another metalhead and couldn't give a fuck less what I look like or what language I speak.
Ok, my bad for assuming you were male. Coming to a compromise doesn't change the fact that you whitesplained the fuck out of it, which is invalidating and ignorant. I was civil about it and appreciative of what you said at the end of the conversation, but that doesn't cancel out the fact that you thought you thought it was ok to tell me what MY experience was like. I'm not being a bitch by comiserating with another person who had the same experience as I did, but if that's all you can say because I didn't pretend how you acted at first was ok, that's on you. You're showing tremendous imaturity and I don't really have time or inclination to argue with someone who thinks acting like a 5 year is ok. Have a good one.
Hi from France, As a black guy and a metalhead I can say heavy metal is not inherently racist at all. I admit when I stated to go to metal concert (was alone) I was a little intimated by the fact I was in minority (well only colored guy sometimes) especially in black metal concerts. But I though fuck off that's the music I love. I've thinking about this stereotype that metal is for white for long time and found the story of a black woman, now in a heavy metal band, that suffered of beeing rejected in metal community in the 80's. She went on concerts see metallica and bands like that and heard ape screams etc. But this is not about metal, that occured in the US, and in this country manifestation of racism had always been, and still are, quite violent. I'm pretty sure that it would'nt happened in France in the 80's for exemple, where manifestation of racism is quite different, and where racists are not the same kind of people. Mostly, french racists were/are bourgeois, retired army guies (that "hunting, tradition and religion" way of thinking, which is not heavy metal at all) and boneheads. So here's the point it's a sociological problem. And: personnaly I think the true metalhead, I mean when it's your passion, you're found of it to know that heavy metal has blues roots so it's not a "pure race music". I never met racist metalhead. I met metalheads that authorized themselves any jokes (having limits is not metal!) (like the slayer guy) but I can enjoy that music without being worried at all. In fact they don't give a fuck my skin color, I met great guies had nice conversations with unknown, a girl even tried to date me at Abbath/Behemoth concert recently! We metalheads are not perfect but racism is not n°1 default at all. Nevertheless, I have an explanation for the fact that there is so few arabian or black guy in metal (I don't talk about asian, there are plenty of xD). The problem comes from the stereotype, and some kind of subconscient racism from non-white communities, that consider that if you're into something considered as "white culture" that means you denies "your" culture. That means you're not "proud" or you would like to be white. But the sad truth is, those guies that don't to get into "white things" don't because they have a problem with being non-white. There was colonialism and slavery in France, and there still is this kind of "post traumatic complex" that bound minds with none sense issues. I think being proud of your "blood culture" is kinda absurd. I think pride is for something you accomplished and you're proud because you feel greater than before, like a song you wrote or a problem YOU solved. Why being proud for something you didn't even fucking chose, like your skin colour, or you elders culture? We human being are so much more than that.
I know this is such an old comment but I’m glad someone mentioned that about liking “white things” from other black people. Ugh, as a mixed girl (black/Hispanic) it’s such a struggle to feel constantly judged by people because I dress a certain way or like things they consider “white things”, it’s so frustrating and honestly does keep from wanting to do certain things. I’ve definitely felt a bit uncertain about going to metal shows because I have never been and honestly have only heard a few songs but after reading your comment maybe I’ll take a chance and go to one.
@@cw_2208My wife is black and I just took her to an Emperor show last Friday out here in Inglewood. She was a bit apprehensive about going but ended up having a good time and the experience opened up her mind more to doing things outside of her comfort zone. I say go do it! Maybe avoid going to an NSBM show for your first one. 😂
It's weird how we as Americans get labeled as having race issues because of our nation's history but you'd never see black athletes get monkey noises made towards them or bananas thrown at them like you do in soccer/football. Maybe in some small podunk town high school game but most likely never to someone the caliber of Samuel Eto’o on a major league team.
im black and i love metal and ive never heard anything racist i mean the lead singer for suicide silence is hispanic and the old vocalist of kill switch engage was black
I’m an asian metalhead and my parents love extreme rock, rock n roll and old school metal. My step dad loves metal so I’ve been raised into metal world and culture. Except my little sister, she listens to rap 😬
living in California and going to metal shows, you see so many different ethnicites coming together and enjoying the same music. it's the best thing ever, I honestly think metal isn't racist at all..it's all about the music man and bringing people together to have fun and enjoy ourselves
+mt93 I just saw some of their stuff on UA-cam and it sounds fantastic! It's too bad these guys didn't get much attention because their music sounds great! Plus,they were from the extremely fertile 80's Metal scene of Cleveland. Thanks for mentioning them! \m/ \m/
I know I'm late but, when my uncle was in high school, he was the classic metalhead, he was the only white person that the Black Panther kids not only liked but allowed to sit with them at lunch.
Re: racism in metal. I have actually witnessed it. September 29th, 2009 marked the second time I saw Metallica. It was during Lamb Of God's set that the racist moment happened. This was when Mark Morton had taken paternity leave and his sub was Doc Coyle of Suffocation. Someone threw a cup of beer at Doc, nailing him in the face. He shrugged it off, then the same drunk idiot called him the n-word. Doc threw his guitar down and jumped off stage. The crowd parts and the other members jump down to keep Doc from beating a guy up.
with black roots of all rockmusic you´r right. but i do have to partly disagree about Techno, i only do say the word "kraftwerk" founded in the 60´s, though to be fair they just began to play electronic music in the 70´s (fun fact: they where sampled very much in 1980 hip hop and house music you may thought of as the root of techno). you even can go beack 20 years more, and call the late 1950´s french musical movement "musique concrete" as the original root of all original electronic music.
really bad example, because all the original members of black sabbath where blues or even jazz musicians (the drummer). and if you had asked them back then the all would say they play a rough darker form of blues, metal wasn´t invented back then.
I am a Puerto Rican that CAN pass as a canarian islander, which is where the bulk of my ancestry comes from. I went with my Puerto Rican friend to a Protest the Hero and Between the Buried and Me concert in Amsterdam for my bachelor's party. It was our first leg of the trip, we were then supposed to meet the rest of the crew in Spain, my wife's country. My friend looks uber Middle Eastern, almost Saudi like, yet he is a Puerto Rican of Sephardic Jewish heritage. I really felt uncomfortable a few times because some people did stare at us and looked surprised to see us there. I never experienced this in Latin America or even in Spain (even though in Spain, once they knew we were from Puerto Rico, they would say something along the lines of "you listen to Metal over there? i thought It was all about Salsa and Reggaeton", which is ironic because our parents were listening to progressive rock by the end of the 60's while they lived under a dictatorship). Anyways, I do think that there MIGHT be a problem in the global northern community, but I am also aware that there is a possibility that I am reacting to conducts which are not necessarily racists, but more like awkward experiences as a result of a historic lack of diversity in the community. I am sure there is a lot of racism, but I could not affirm it is a general condition of the community. I think white people (and I do know that it is a very vague concept) must have a dialogue with their peers in the community about the social problems this could entail. I respect freedom of speech as the lawyer I am, but Hate Speech should not be condoned. There is a great difference regarding that between the US and most of Europe (maybe because of the Nazi experience). In the US hate speech is allowed as long as it does not lead to immediate and unequivocal acts of physical violence, but that is not the case in Europe. Even in Spain, which seems to be really lay back with the use of the Fascist salute and people do not get arrested for doing it, like in Germany (people still do it here, specially heirs of the Pro Franco regime), at the constitutional law level, Hate Speech is not allowed. I think that there should not be thought crimes, but you should be held responsible for what you say when you open your mouth to express hate speech which might have an impact on how others later commit violence against people of a different racial, ethnic or cultural background for no reason at all, however causally distant it may be. I am not saying that people who practice Hate Speech should get arrested, but they should certainly receive some sort of social sanction by the community (rejection, scorn, etc). Just my two cents. We all want to enjoy metal and feel safe.
You can't sat that someone is stupid for not listening something they don't enjoy, personally i am not a big fan of both genres, but i am not saying other people are stupid for liking it. The only stupid people right now are the ones that say that pop is the best music you can find
Not so much death metal. The black metal part I could agree with. I know a lot of black metal fans also enjoy death metal but there aren't really hate promoting lyrics in death metal like there is in black metal. Maybe anti-religion but that's about it.
I remember in 2006, I saw a very old black man waiting in line all by himself and even having fun at a Blind Guardian concert! I had no problem with this guy at all but I will admit, it was unusual.
I played a show with Super Joint Ritual a long time ago, Phil was saluting Hitler and dropping n-bombs like it was nothing. Total let down to see a hero act like that. But if you listen to younger Phil in songs like 13 Steps and Five Minutes he seems to talk down about racism. Like the opposite of Malcom X who was racist in his young days but against racism in his older days. The second time I Super Joint came through I would have skipped seeing them but Devildriver was playing with them so I went anyway, Phil was so high it literally took four guys to help him stand up the entire show and someone to hold the mic form just for him to murmur into it, pathetic, people pay good money to see him and that's how he repays fans. Regardless, when he sober and playing in the band Down I never hear of any of this behavior. Anyway, it's bullshit to hate anyone for something they can't help, like skin color or taste of music.
I can confirm that the metal community is very welcoming. I am not black racially speaking (my dad is white and my mother is Amerindian) However I do have quite dark skin, mostly because I am really burnt most of the time. In my school which is predominantly Hispanic, there is a white guy, really white (he's Norwegian) and he was so friendly to me when I shared the same passion for music. he didn't like Hispanic immigrants since I live in LA and most of them are not very bright individuals but he didn't have a problem with race at all. actually he defended me a couple of times in class which I really appreciated. even my "own" Hispanic peers have racial prejudice, I for example am called "negro" as a "affectionate" way but deep down it has connotation for me being slightly different than them.
Also some Hispanics are white ,black mestizo, indigenous, this is a complicated subject but yes Hispanics of any race can be racist , but that goes for everyone.Most Mexicans are mixed race .I'm sorry you had to deal with that sort of racism but I hope by now your views have changed abit because Im salvadorian and my parents are immigrants , we are not all dumb .
With freedom of speech comes the responsibility for what you said. You can say whatever you want, but from the moment you said it you have to be open to the fact that someone may call you out on it. It's quite common for people who use the freedom of speech argument to become angry when someone says something about it, as if freedom of speech shields you from criticism. Not necessarily talking about the Pantera incident, but we should also not confuse freedom of speech with hate speech...
Nowadays as someone who is a female who is half black I get called a “poser”just bc I’m a poc and a women.or I get called whitewashed bc I listen to heavy metal.
But it also depends on how you look. If you have a lot of spikes and a slayer shirt with a bullet belt no one will think you're a poser lmao. But being half black too I heard that dumbass sentence too "yOu ArE wHiTe WaShEd" lmao
I disagree on some points. While I don't think Metal is inherently racist, I think it's more prevalent and accepted than other genres. I mean we have a whole semi-widely known (within metal) subgenre that has racism as a core addition: NSBM. Even without NSBM, Black Metal is racist occasionally and even if it isn't, you can be almost 90% sure its members are racist or discriminatory against religious groups as people. As an Arab Muslim fan of extreme forms of Black Metal, it's hard to find bands that wouldn't want to kill me.
Bethany Nguyen Yeah, being African or Asian fans of metal isn't really as easy as people seem to think it is. Mexicans and Central/South Americans are starting to be generally accepted in metal, though.
+SilverAbsol yeah latin america is fettinf axcepted more which is encouraging. it's just sad that there have been asian, middle eastern and entirely black bands that are metal for long and we get no acceptance from some bands.
as a middle eastern, it's sad how heavy metal is treated in the middle east, it's seen as talentless satanic evil music by most ppl if not all, im one of the few fans 🤘
I grew up as a Metal fan on an island in the coast of Africa. I'm racially of Indian descent and most people around me at the time were from the same origin and we all grew up with Metal. However, when I moved to England and went to certain metal shows. I used to get drinks and bottles thrown at me. It was so weird to me because I shared to the same love and passion for Metal like them but was treated differently due to the colour of my skin. However, not all shows that I attended. Some of them.
Heavy metal is not racist at all. Heavy metal is a uniform to unite everyone who loves it regardless of race if the uniform doesn't fit you simply don't wear it
Great video man! in all honesty the metal community are the greatest people i have ever met. They are never quick to judge on anything and they have the most respect for everyone. I have been a MetalHead since i was 12 and im not going to stop until the day i die.
I have never really experienced Racism in the metal scene. I have seen people at shows that are more than likely Racist. As an African American male who works engineering music I can say that I have seen more racism at hiphop shows than metal especially when Caucasian or Latino spectators arrive to a venue in a predominantly black area. That being said Racist fucks are everywhere I've had my own moments. It will probably be another century before it Peters out the more people embrace the fact that we are all really mutts and no one is pure anything. Early man was a horndog and just got in where he could fit in. So a lot of us have trace amounts of races we wouldn't even dream of in our DNA. But as I said even with this knowledge I sometimes have slip ups. I would say it isn't prevalent in Metal more like Metal has that stigma because people automatically associate groups of tattooed, pierced and combat booted Caucasians with Racists. Skin heads etc.
Finally, someone made a very well thought out, poignant video! Me personally, it wasn't so much the actions of Anselmo that annoyed me, but more the people who defended him simply because they hero worship Pantera. They wouldn't have done that if Pantera wasn't as big as they are. I do greatly appreciate that he apologized for it, but it doesn't make it any more acceptable to do that. And when people say "Oh, why were you offended by this? Of all people, blah blah", that itself offends me more than someone who actually IS a white supremacist I also heavily defend freedom of speech and yes, you can say whatever you like, but just because you CAN say it, doesn't necessarily mean that you SHOULD
I'm glad you like my channel! For a beginner metalhead I would suggest starting with a lot of the very early metal bands like Black Sabbath, Ozzy, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Saxon ect. You'll probably love those bands and then gain a thirst for other types of metal and grow from there. Let me know how you like those bands!
First of all: Heavy Metal is the offspring of Rock Music, while Rock is the offspring of Blues, so the roots of Heavy Metal are pretty black. Second: Heavy metal is international. It exists on every continent. There are even Metal bands in the Middle East and in Africa. Of course there are many racist metal fans, but they're just ignorant and I think they ruin the scene -- just like any assholes in a group of people. If you think of different subgenres of Metal, the fanbase kinda differs: while in the Black Metal scene there are a lot of racists and even right out Nazis, the Thrash Metal scene is pretty much Left-wing and Liberal. So many Metal bands have made anti-racist statements and many have written anti-racist songs (Iron Maiden, Kreator, Sepultura, Napalm Death, Machine Head, Gorefest, Arch Enemy, Amorphis, Moonsorrow -- just to name a few) while racist bands are somewhat in marginal (NSBM and some other Black Metal bands). And what about all the multicultural/multiracial metal bands? Slayer, Suffocation, Sepultura, Dream Theater, Death Angel -- the list goes on... And then there is even the band called Noxa from Indonesia which has one very unique character: all members are from a different religion. Drummer Oxen is a Christian, guitarist Ade is a Muslim, bassist Dipa is a Hindu, and vocalist Tony is a Buddhist. How about diversity here? :D
ANTIFAxFINLAND Man.....srsly Im so jealous of you being in a country such as Finland....awesome weather (I love rain, snow, cold), awesome culture, METALHEADS EVERYWHERE \m/ and lakes... greetings from Germany :D
ANTIFAxFINLAND Rock is a fusion of blues and country music. Country music. Blues was heavily influenced by European folk music. So no it's not exclusively black.
Rock & Roll : , Minstrel, Delta blues, Sothtern baptist Gospel, ,Early Country,Swing , R&B ... the blues came from the Mississippi delta & is engenous to America.. how could it have been influenced by European folk music? Rock & Roll's chief influence is African ( through African music& rhythms/ Voo Doo)
You are a really wise man my friend. I would consider myself a punk-rock/metalhead and i think i can speak for us all when i say "f**k what everyone else is thinking" If just everyone could understand that everyone is entitled their own opinions without necessarily being a jerk the world would be such a better place. I really liked the video and have watched a couple of your others so you definitely deserves a sub.
Hello Blackmetal Werewolf. I enjoy watching your videos and the highlight for in this video was when you were talking about freedom of speech. For some reason people think that metalheads blindly follow every single word that the bands say in their songs which I totally disagree with. For me metal is a way of experiencing certain emotions or get in to certain mindsets that some of us can never get into. Once you hear it, it's up to us to follow it or forget about it. P.S. I really like to hear your opinions on progressive rock and progressive metal bands(opeth and porcupine tree for some examples). Cheers.
To qoute Bruce Dickinson "We got fans every color, ever creed, every fucking religion. It does not matter if you are jewish, muslim, christian. We are all Blood Brothers." One of the best deiftions on how metal should be considered. Unfortunatlly, its not the case. I remeber when Derrick toke over from Max in Sepultura in the 90ies. Waaay to many where going "How the hell can a black man be in a metal band?! Its just wrong!" and so on and so forth. Its fucking discusting. It has gotten better tho, but not that much... As an exampel, Killswitch Engageds former singer got accepted even tho he wasent white..
i live in sgv in la and I have never met a white metalhead unless I was at a show. in high school all the metalheads, punks, goths, emos etc were mostly latinos and a few asians. edit: i’m mexican native american and on the rez, many natives love metal
Sup dude, I really like your videos, you have great opinions which I agree with you a lot on the topics you have talked about. I want to ask you a few questions, what's your view on the Nu Metal genre? what death metal or melodic death metal bands should I listen to? I'm currently listening to Dethklok and I really like the sound and I want to listen more on what it has to offer, and I don't know if you are in a band but I'm trying to form or look for a band at the moment I do death growling which is the only vocals I can do and I write lyrics based on my personal experiences and other subjects such as my ancestry as I'm very proud of it cause my ancestry is surprisingly important to my country I'm all the way from New Zealand by the way and I write themes based on warfare, if you are in a band how do you find or form a (any sub genre) metal band? Sorry for the long comment and the questions but you seem to be a cool dude, keep up the great work!
hey, I'm really glad you like my stuff! thank you very much! So, as for Nu metal I don't really like it. The whole rap influence kind of sours the whole experience for me. I listen to metal because I don't like other types of music so when they put other music genres in metal it ruins it for me. If you want to check out more death metal you should listen to Cannibal Corpse, Wolfheart, Death, Morbid Angel. I think you'll like them. Unfortunately I'm not in a band. But if you're trying to form one I suggest finding people who share the same vision as you and be open to compromise.
Dude this video is pretty good. I think you hit a lot of good points and I'm definitely subscribed. I'm just wondering if you've ever thought of having panels on your channel. You seem like a thoughtful guy who has a lot of questions, so maybe if you had a panel of other metalheads from different walks of life send in clips that answer some of your questions or questions you get asked I think that'd be cool. Also, it could be good for generating more discussion in the comments. Not that hearing your opinion is bad, it would just be intereating to hear from some of your friends too. Just an idea.
Metalhead here and never experienced any kind of racism or prejudice in metal towards Blacks or Latins, but i´ve saw a lot of that and worse in the gothic scene.
LIked your video, but as a South American, I'd like to add that you do see people of all ethnicities in metal, even here, it is still more prevalent around whites than anything else, although I was in Bolivia once where most of the population is non-white (I'm from Uruguay, 90% of the population is white of european descent) and there's a sizable metal scene there, many national and local bands, they just don't get as many international shows, so many cross to Argentina which is the country the probably gets the most metal shows in all of Southern south america at least.
Exactly, I'm from Paraguay, and we use to organize tours to go to Argentina, I traveled to attend Judas Priest, Motorhead and Ozzy at Monsters of rock.. however many metal bands came here in Paraguay already, from Metallica, Megadeth, Grim Reaper to Gorgoroth, Belphegor and Mayhem and the list keeps going,
Yeah i agree that the guy can think what he wants, that being said i still have an opinion to his opinion. And i think his opinion, if he wasn't drunk and being stupid, was out of context and immoral
I love metal since my 14,s 15,s and im black sometimes i feel some headbangers had a stange reation when they realise that i like metal such genres as black death etc.. is like saying that rap or reagge is for black people there is examples for all kind black or latinos even asian doing great metal or rock and white people doig great rap or reagge blues etc.... just remenber some of the great musicians or bands in rock or metal have latin ,african roots or are it.like jimmi hendix body count ,suicidal tendecies guitar player, suffocation ,the fist line up had two black people and they sound raw,brutal one of great deathmetal bands even dead kennedys the drumer is black...
I actually had a friend who listened to some heavy metal and classic rock and is black. Same with last school year, she listens to Nightcore, electronic music(particularly dubstep and electro swing), classic rock and some hard rock and heavy metal. Then there were some friends of mine who were more hispanic and listen to Post Hardcore and maybe some heavy metal like Killswitch Engage for example, at least one also listens to alot of dubstep, the heavy, headbangy stuff, not everything in it like liquid or chillstep for example.
I got into metal at around 8 and I’m 26 now...from what I’ve experienced first hand from being in bands, jamming out, going to shows, parties or whatever, There have been people of all colors there and they were always the most inclusive groups ive been around. Metal heads just wanna jam out and have a good time. It’s like an unofficial club of sorts. Every time I meet a new metal head even in the street it usually starts with a compliment from one party to another followed by a conversation about music and the person is typically always friendly. Ive definitely met some asshats in pits but no one likes those guys anyway lol
Hispanic Metalhead here. Been listening and going to shows since I was 15 and now 36 . Never had a problems at shows and the community is pretty welcoming and friendly.
I've felt like the metal community is more accepting. I have made friends with metalheads that are white and they never say "you are Mexican, you can't listen to metal", all they say is "what are your favorite bands". As long as you share the same love for metal, metalheads won't discriminate against you.
Hello mate, i salute you from Romania! As a religious person, i don't really like listening to metal that promotes satanism e.g slayer and like all of the black metal bands :D. I really like slayer because of dave lombardo and tom araya because they are some really nice guys from what i have seen in their interviews. but based on kerry andu hanneman(rip), i really don't like them. i know they are not satanist or anything, but trying to be badass as you are writing devil based lyrics is just lame. as you are a black metal fan, can you tell me what is your opinion on the satanistical presence in the lyrics of black metal bands or metal in general? I am not a total metal fan or a metalhead because i also listen to rap music and some softer metal music that is rock. when it comes to metal i am listening to sabbath, osbourne, maiden, the big 4 thrash metal gods, linkin park, nightwish. As you can see, i am not into the brutal side of metal as it does not appeal to me. All that being said, what is your opinion on them load/reload/st.anger albums of metallica? do you hate them because they are not metal and they selled out and all these kind of stuff or can you find all the good stuff in all their music? P.S i can hardly wait for the upcoming metallica record and i already bought tickets for the megadeth concert in bucharest on the 13 th on july so i'm PUMPED
I'll be doing a video about the whole Satanism thing in metal in the near future so you'll be able to get my opinions on that when I make the video. As for those Metallica albums they certainly aren't my favourites but they do have a few high points in them. I hate using the term "selling out" because I feel like it's a meaningless insult people use to describe something they don't like.
Also, i really don't know how i found you, it just came on my recommended panel in youtube saying something like speed metal related, i guess it was a lucky recommendation, because i subscribed :D. Also do you think that Ulrich deserves the shit he gets for being not a technical drummer but a simplistic one that suits his band well? Do you agree with piracy in music?
+Dorian Costin I don't think he deserves nearly as much hate as he gets. There are a lot of drummers who are much worse than he is lol. As for piracy I don't agree with it. I wouldn't want to work for free so why should musicians? I understand some people can't afford a lot of albums and some countries have really high prices but I'm still not comfortable with it
Satanic subjects are popular amongst metal bands. If you don't like it then don't listen to it. You can't sing about puppies and flowers to the music that is being played and on top of that metal is all about realism. Not every metal head has a positive outlook on life and it's an art of it's own kind.
Listen dude, fuck that I'm black I've always been a metal head since I was young, my parents thought that metal was racist and the crowds wouldnt like me there (Mind you this is 2008 dude) Anyone who's been around for a minute knows that metal is one of the most DIVERSE cultures ever, like rap music and all that shit is so isolated with the crowd and who goes to shows that it does seem segregated but no one is brave enough to say it. Rap music is racist as fuck.
"that Phil guy from Pantera"
Lol
metal is for everyone, skin color or religion doesn't matter at all!
Including all music, music doesnt have laws!
edgy
True!
What I like about metal is it really is NOT racist. Look what happens when there's a heavy band that's latino, black or any other race. If they're heavy and sound good... nobody cares. Still buy the albums. With metal, it feels not racist. Example: black country singer, white rapper or an Asian bluegrass band. Would feel odd honestly but if any are metal bands... it can fit.
A typical 'current year' comment.
I have gotten into fights at black metal shows because I am a black man that's into metal. The music itself usually isn't on a racist tip. But some fans though that's a different story.
Can’t argue with truth.
Then listen to thrash, I'm not really into black metal especially with varg spewing tons of white genocide neo nazi shit on youtube
@@jamiereid9910 thrash has a lot of bands that are diverse. That's my favorite genre of metal.
@@SinisterSinemaProductions mine too
Which bands where you seening when you got into fights ?
This guy should change his name to Logically Thinking Metalhead
Totally agree
I"m Black, in my 50's now, been to MANY, hard rock, metal shows, never experienced any real negative vibe. Yeah sure in the parking lot, every once in awhile with everyone drinking, etc, I might hear something but hey, it is what it is. Now, I just go to the Old School shows, Priest, Maiden etc. BTW...my favorites Lemmy/RJDio...RIP Damn, miss them Big Time!
music isn't, people are
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I am a black and asian guy and I listen to black metal cause it's fuckin amazing
Black and yellow black and yellow black and yellow
I've been listening to metal since the mid 80's and seen about 200 bands. I seen Pantera on all of their 90's albums and I'm also from Texas; never had a problem at any of those shows! To me, being a metalhead is knowing that you're in a brotherhood of individuals connected by our taste in music and our unwillingness to follow pop culture. \m/\m/
well spoken my brother
glad to hear you haven't had any problems YEEAAHH! * headbangs * from norway
agreed.salute
With you brother 🤘🏿🤘🏿
Dark Star Transmissions dude wtf
To be honest, I actually found the metal community to be the most welcoming community. No one really cares where you're from, we just come and share our love for the music. Sure, there are racists as well such as Phil and Varg, but they're in a minority, and let's face it, what group doesn't have its own racists? Some people are assholes, it's just a part of life.
Unless you listen to a different sub-genre than someone, then they'll hate you for the rest of your life haha
Sam Goldstraw or like the new singer/guitarist/bassist/drummer more than the previous one within a band, lol
+Khaled Assaf Actualy Varg is not racist
Floyd Douven ok, whatever, really not in the mood to get into a debate about his political views. I just enjoy his music.
+Khaled Assaf i agree
Unfortunately, racism will always exist. You will find racist people no matter where you go. Judging people because of the music that they listen to isn't really "right" for lack of a better word. People are allowed to voice their opinions, and we live in a day and age where you can't actually say anything without somebody getting offended. Some statements will offend more people, but that doesn't mean you're not allowed to say what's on your mind.
I agree. Racism will always exist regardless if you try to end it or not
Heavy metal rules racism sucks for weak idiots
' RACE ' does not exist , race is an invention of the social engineers to divide & conquer the general populous, the word ' RACE ' is a competition , in a car race the black & white checkered flag is waved to declare the winner , the floor of the house in freemasonry is a black & white checkerboard which signifies base mentality . The so called ' ELITES ' want us to kill eachother , and it works because most people are ignorant FOOLS !...Conspiracy means ' to breathe together ' , Respire-inspire-conspire...boo-hoo.
In my personal opinion:
you nailed it on the head. The genre it's not racist. There are racists and racist subject in the genre, but not the genre as a whole. Metal is the musical outlet for countless "races" (I use quotations because I'm not a fan of the use of the term. Last time I checked, we're all members of the human RACE, it doesn't scientifically divide us on color), ethnicities and belief systems the world wide.
Neanderthals were a different race but we're all homo sapiens (probably with some neanderthal-parts) and therefore one race.
The use of the term in the english language is hugely annoying and plainly wrong.
@@PuresG1ft It's even dumber if you use skincolour as race.
Me and my friends are Mexicans and we love Metal. In Mexico City it's the home of rock and metal music. So if anyone says it's racist or for whites is just arrogant.
Which Mexicans ? There are white Mexicans black Mexicans ,most are mestizo .
I agree with you but also anyone making racist comments on stage or not will have to deal with the freedom of speech of others criticism toward their comments. So Freedom of speech works both ways. & Hey this is coming from a black man who grew up on the pantera sound who met Dimebag months before his untimely passing. If you're a legendary figure in music and you make a controversial statement prepare for the controversy cause it will come
Raven Blaze what was dimebag like
yep, freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences!
@@askmeaboutworms786 Cool as fuck dude. One of the most down to earth people I ever come across.
Thank you for this. I'm a 38 year old metalhead who happens to be "African American" or Black. I'm also a HUGE PanterA fan. Throughout my childhood growing up on the East side of San Antonio, TX which was a Black community I was the constant sore thumb everywhere I went. My answer is "No. Metal is NOT racist." In fact I feel more at ease in a metal crowd/concert than anywhere else and I suffer from anxiety. I recall NUMBEROUS times being picked on by other Black students and adults for the styles of music I like and the way I dress(ed). I can only recall less than a handful of times it coming from White people. Now don't get me wrong I'm proud of my heritage and ethnicity. I'm nobody's Uncle Tom but I also agree that no one should not be proud of who and what they are. I've seen PanterA at least 5 times in my day and those were some of thee most welcoming shows I've attended. But as a fan I KNOW what a band is about when I go. PanterA is a proud Southern band. With that comes some terrirorial views to say the least from their audience. We all alreasy know Phil has been and probably still will be a dick at times. If fat Phil stumbling around drunk is the definition of White power then people who want that can have fun with it. I'll be in the front seat of the bus reading a Chuck D interview. 😃 Again, Thank you for this. I've subscibed and will be continuing to watch your videos. Feel free to check out mine. 🤘
Fuck yeah Bro. Stay Metal yo!!!!
For sure Bruh🤘
Metal is no more racist than any other industry. Individuals are racist, metal is not. Slayer, Sepultura, GOD FORBID, Deftones, RATM,- there's lots of prominent metal bands with members of an ethnic background. Just because the majority of heavy metal bands comprise of caucasions from the West & Northern Europe doesn't make metal an issue of racism. Metal is a platform for anyone to engage & enjoy. Metal as a racist genre of music is an utterly ridiculous notion. Racism is just another point of attack for people who don't like metal. It's the same irrational ignorance that tries to paint Rammstein as a band of Nazis.
I live in the middle east and it is very amazing to see how united the community of rock and metal is here. Race and religion is no one's concern.
Wait we forgot the racism in American rap, I mean I'm black but... I still hate that rap stuff
You should check out some rappers in the indie scene (Danny Brown,Tech N9ne Immortal Technique, Rittz, Twiztid)
Tech N9ne is amazing!
Ch1Frequency Fuck Yea he is Soo-woo ^S^
Cheer up and enjoy the present. Populism and nationalism is the new trend. Therefore hit the bar like there is no tomorrow. Alcohol is what keeps history teachers alive to tell you all about how an economic crisis caused civil unrest, unemployment, poverty, low or stagnant growth, low inflation or even deflation which led to populist demagogoues seizing power, slaughtering the minorities alongside with the intellectuals (cause they're often viewed as elitist) and the ruling elite to dismantle our cherished democratic institutions and finally wage a new world war and blow up the world.
BoB Bobvik That sounds depressing as hell...
The fact that many metal- bands exist in the Middle East, Africa and East Asia indicates that people accross all societies listen to the music.
I'm a black man and I loved metal since I was 13 am now 28. I got myself a guitar, albums and dove head first into it and I've never looked back. At least for me personally I have experienced nothing but love and support from the metal community. Gone to quite a bit of shows and the looks I get when I actually know my shit is heartwarming, and recently having a battle vest I get so many looks and good feedback. The metal community is something that the uneducated like to shit on but if they were part of it will realize it's accepting of all races, gender, look etc as long as you're there for the same goal to enjoy the hell out of the band people will embrace that. I am not the most social guy but at a metal concert I don't know what comes over me but I open up, I'm engaging in conversation I'm like a whole different person and that's the beauty of metal! \m/
Haha I'm black and brutal af \m/
+Darius Evans same here bro
+Darius Evans there are more of us than ppl think lml
+YerFull Nayme there's more black metal heads out there. I feel like there's none where I live.
Darius, when I was in high school I had a friend who is black...
He was one of the nicest guys any one could meet
Darius Evan - Right on man. We listen to our music with our ears, not our eyes. We listen to the best music..fucking metal. I don't care what color the performer is. I just want to listen to the best...and what happens to be the best? Fucking metal.
I'm native American, and I'd love heavy metal. \m/
@Lee Kenyon what does that even mean??
I appreciate the fuck out of this video! Racism in the metal community needs to be talked about. I'm metal head and a non-white person and it gets OLD having to defend being brown at shows
+Nemo Forever Like I said, just because you haven't heard or seen it, or you don't think that way, doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I mean if it didn't happen, why would there be videos and discussions about it?
And I live in San Francisco, which is one of the most diverse places in North America. Unfortunately it happens everywhere, dude. I'm not saying it's metal or the metal community that's racist, I'm saying (like he said in the video) there are some people who are racist and who listen to metal, and I've just experience it more in-your-face than some people.
+Nemo Forever Thanks, I appreciate it. Nothing is gonna stop me from going to shows and loving metal, and I appreciate the vast majority of metalheads who see me as just another metalhead and couldn't give a fuck less what I look like or what language I speak.
+Marcos Sanchez Right? idk how he thinks he knows what being brown is like better than we do
+Nemo Forever Have a good one, friend.
Ok, my bad for assuming you were male. Coming to a compromise doesn't change the fact that you whitesplained the fuck out of it, which is invalidating and ignorant. I was civil about it and appreciative of what you said at the end of the conversation, but that doesn't cancel out the fact that you thought you thought it was ok to tell me what MY experience was like. I'm not being a bitch by comiserating with another person who had the same experience as I did, but if that's all you can say because I didn't pretend how you acted at first was ok, that's on you. You're showing tremendous imaturity and I don't really have time or inclination to argue with someone who thinks acting like a 5 year is ok. Have a good one.
Hi from France,
As a black guy and a metalhead I can say heavy metal is not inherently racist at all. I admit when I stated to go to metal concert (was alone) I was a little intimated by the fact I was in minority (well only colored guy sometimes) especially in black metal concerts. But I though fuck off that's the music I love. I've thinking about this stereotype that metal is for white for long time and found the story of a black woman, now in a heavy metal band, that suffered of beeing rejected in metal community in the 80's. She went on concerts see metallica and bands like that and heard ape screams etc. But this is not about metal, that occured in the US, and in this country manifestation of racism had always been, and still are, quite violent. I'm pretty sure that it would'nt happened in France in the 80's for exemple, where manifestation of racism is quite different, and where racists are not the same kind of people. Mostly, french racists were/are bourgeois, retired army guies (that "hunting, tradition and religion" way of thinking, which is not heavy metal at all) and boneheads. So here's the point it's a sociological problem. And: personnaly I think the true metalhead, I mean when it's your passion, you're found of it to know that heavy metal has blues roots so it's not a "pure race music". I never met racist metalhead. I met metalheads that authorized themselves any jokes (having limits is not metal!) (like the slayer guy) but I can enjoy that music without being worried at all. In fact they don't give a fuck my skin color, I met great guies had nice conversations with unknown, a girl even tried to date me at Abbath/Behemoth concert recently! We metalheads are not perfect but racism is not n°1 default at all.
Nevertheless, I have an explanation for the fact that there is so few arabian or black guy in metal (I don't talk about asian, there are plenty of xD). The problem comes from the stereotype, and some kind of subconscient racism from non-white communities, that consider that if you're into something considered as "white culture" that means you denies "your" culture. That means you're not "proud" or you would like to be white. But the sad truth is, those guies that don't to get into "white things" don't because they have a problem with being non-white. There was colonialism and slavery in France, and there still is this kind of "post traumatic complex" that bound minds with none sense issues.
I think being proud of your "blood culture" is kinda absurd. I think pride is for something you accomplished and you're proud because you feel greater than before, like a song you wrote or a problem YOU solved.
Why being proud for something you didn't even fucking chose, like your skin colour, or you elders culture? We human being are so much more than that.
I know this is such an old comment but I’m glad someone mentioned that about liking “white things” from other black people. Ugh, as a mixed girl (black/Hispanic) it’s such a struggle to feel constantly judged by people because I dress a certain way or like things they consider “white things”, it’s so frustrating and honestly does keep from wanting to do certain things. I’ve definitely felt a bit uncertain about going to metal shows because I have never been and honestly have only heard a few songs but after reading your comment maybe I’ll take a chance and go to one.
@@cw_2208My wife is black and I just took her to an Emperor show last Friday out here in Inglewood. She was a bit apprehensive about going but ended up having a good time and the experience opened up her mind more to doing things outside of her comfort zone.
I say go do it! Maybe avoid going to an NSBM show for your first one. 😂
It's weird how we as Americans get labeled as having race issues because of our nation's history but you'd never see black athletes get monkey noises made towards them or bananas thrown at them like you do in soccer/football. Maybe in some small podunk town high school game but most likely never to someone the caliber of Samuel Eto’o on a major league team.
im black and i love metal and ive never heard anything racist i mean the lead singer for suicide silence is hispanic and the old vocalist of kill switch engage was black
suicide silence isn't that great, check out Hirax, they have a black vocalist, and theyre one of the best bands ive ever heard!
or Oceano. their vocalist is black as well and they kick ass
+TombfishMD Oceano is deathcore
HOWARD HAS HIS OWN BAND NOW CALLED DEVIL YOU KNOW!! HE IS STILL AWESOME AS FUCK!!
Keanu Browne Yeah, and the singer from Sevendust is black too
I’m an asian metalhead and my parents love extreme rock, rock n roll and old school metal. My step dad loves metal so I’ve been raised into metal world and culture. Except my little sister, she listens to rap 😬
what's wrong with listening to rap, lol
@@riteshyeddu9186I love rap lol , I did used to listen to metal though .
@@riteshyeddu9186poser....
@@gregvaldez1269oh look, another poser with an IQ below 70.
living in California and going to metal shows, you see so many different ethnicites coming together and enjoying the same music. it's the best thing ever, I honestly think metal isn't racist at all..it's all about the music man and bringing people together to have fun and enjoy ourselves
There was an all-black Heavy Metal band,back in the 80's,called Sound Barrier. They didn't put out much but they sounded great.
There is also another band called Black Death that were in the 80's
+mt93 I haven't heard of them.I will definitely check them out!
+mt93 I just saw some of their stuff on UA-cam and it sounds fantastic! It's too bad these guys didn't get much attention because their music sounds great! Plus,they were from the extremely fertile 80's Metal scene of Cleveland. Thanks for mentioning them! \m/ \m/
+Brian Reddish no worries man🤘🏾
Brian Reddish Thanks for that man, had no idea a band like that existed gonna check em out. \m/
I know I'm late but, when my uncle was in high school, he was the classic metalhead, he was the only white person that the Black Panther kids not only liked but allowed to sit with them at lunch.
The most I've ever experienced was really weird looks at waiting in line at venues. I assume it's because I look like the stereotypical "black chick".
Re: racism in metal. I have actually witnessed it. September 29th, 2009 marked the second time I saw Metallica. It was during Lamb Of God's set that the racist moment happened. This was when Mark Morton had taken paternity leave and his sub was Doc Coyle of Suffocation. Someone threw a cup of beer at Doc, nailing him in the face. He shrugged it off, then the same drunk idiot called him the n-word. Doc threw his guitar down and jumped off stage. The crowd parts and the other members jump down to keep Doc from beating a guy up.
doc coyle was in God Forbid not Suffocation. Terrence Hobbs is the guitarist for suffocation
My bad. Its been a few years.
Serenity Taylor i smell made up story since you dont even know bands names..
And how are you certain this doc guy was gonna be the one doing the ass kicking? How you know he wasn’t the one who was going to get his ass beat?
@@terrorkult7953 Are you racist , why do you care so badly?
Metal IS for everyone, but that doesn't mean that there's a fair big part of the fanbase that hates that
Haha but without black people metal wouldn't even exist. It all roots back to black. Same with Techno.
Without black people, people wouldn't exist! It all goes back to Africa.
That too
What do you mean? There's nothing to back that up with. I don't think black sabbath was african or black.
with black roots of all rockmusic you´r right. but i do have to partly disagree about Techno, i only do say the word "kraftwerk" founded in the 60´s, though to be fair they just began to play electronic music in the 70´s (fun fact: they where sampled very much in 1980 hip hop and house music you may thought of as the root of techno). you even can go beack 20 years more, and call the late 1950´s french musical movement "musique concrete" as the original root of all original electronic music.
really bad example, because all the original members of black sabbath where blues or even jazz musicians (the drummer). and if you had asked them back then the all would say they play a rough darker form of blues, metal wasn´t invented back then.
I am a Puerto Rican that CAN pass as a canarian islander, which is where the bulk of my ancestry comes from. I went with my Puerto Rican friend to a Protest the Hero and Between the Buried and Me concert in Amsterdam for my bachelor's party. It was our first leg of the trip, we were then supposed to meet the rest of the crew in Spain, my wife's country. My friend looks uber Middle Eastern, almost Saudi like, yet he is a Puerto Rican of Sephardic Jewish heritage. I really felt uncomfortable a few times because some people did stare at us and looked surprised to see us there. I never experienced this in Latin America or even in Spain (even though in Spain, once they knew we were from Puerto Rico, they would say something along the lines of "you listen to Metal over there? i thought It was all about Salsa and Reggaeton", which is ironic because our parents were listening to progressive rock by the end of the 60's while they lived under a dictatorship). Anyways, I do think that there MIGHT be a problem in the global northern community, but I am also aware that there is a possibility that I am reacting to conducts which are not necessarily racists, but more like awkward experiences as a result of a historic lack of diversity in the community. I am sure there is a lot of racism, but I could not affirm it is a general condition of the community. I think white people (and I do know that it is a very vague concept) must have a dialogue with their peers in the community about the social problems this could entail.
I respect freedom of speech as the lawyer I am, but Hate Speech should not be condoned. There is a great difference regarding that between the US and most of Europe (maybe because of the Nazi experience). In the US hate speech is allowed as long as it does not lead to immediate and unequivocal acts of physical violence, but that is not the case in Europe. Even in Spain, which seems to be really lay back with the use of the Fascist salute and people do not get arrested for doing it, like in Germany (people still do it here, specially heirs of the Pro Franco regime), at the constitutional law level, Hate Speech is not allowed. I think that there should not be thought crimes, but you should be held responsible for what you say when you open your mouth to express hate speech which might have an impact on how others later commit violence against people of a different racial, ethnic or cultural background for no reason at all, however causally distant it may be. I am not saying that people who practice Hate Speech should get arrested, but they should certainly receive some sort of social sanction by the community (rejection, scorn, etc). Just my two cents. We all want to enjoy metal and feel safe.
Heavy metal is not inherently racist just specific people
I'm half black and metal saves my soul.
love your videos man. Can't wait to see you go big here on UA-cam.
most metal fans I meet that are racist are usually into black metal or death metal.
raphael green most metal fans are into black and death metal
Victor Gheorghe that's where you are wrong, hevy metal thrash metal, metalcore, ect. are all more famous then black and death metal
Aleksandar Milosavljevic That's because most people are stupid. Black metal and death metal are the only metal genres that don't sound like shit.
You can't sat that someone is stupid for not listening something they don't enjoy, personally i am not a big fan of both genres, but i am not saying other people are stupid for liking it. The only stupid people right now are the ones that say that pop is the best music you can find
Not so much death metal. The black metal part I could agree with. I know a lot of black metal fans also enjoy death metal but there aren't really hate promoting lyrics in death metal like there is in black metal. Maybe anti-religion but that's about it.
I remember in 2006, I saw a very old black man waiting in line all by himself and even having fun at a Blind Guardian concert! I had no problem with this guy at all but I will admit, it was unusual.
Wow it's so cool that you're addressing this issue! As an outsider, I had no idea about this. Thank you!
Chuck Berry, Little Richard, Living Colour, Radkey, Death Angel, Millenium (India), Crazy Town, Suicidial Tendencies, Sepultura, Godforbid, RATM, Bodycount, Gallhammer, Dragonforce, Hirax, Cerebrall Ballzy, P.O.D., Lloyd Grant (Metallica), Sixx A.M., Wicked Sins, Blasphemy, Bad Brains, Black Tide, Sound Barrier, Jimi Hendrix, Biosphia (Japan), X Japan. Brutal Agitation (India), Suffocation, Skunk Anansie, Bloc Party, Skyharbor (India/USA), The Allman Brothers Band, Onyx, Stuck Mojo, Alice In Chains, Powerman 5000, Electric Octopus, Kirk Hammett, Limp Bizkit.
Sepultura, Godforbid, RATM, Bodycount, Gallhammer, Dragonforce, the list goes on.
Don't forget Blasphemy
is this a list of bands that have members that are non white?
MrCapone1996 Pretty much, I suppose everyone's trying to prove metal ain't racist.
It's not the style, it's the people who support it.
The cult of personality....damn good song.
not metal
@@lachanncraft7870 it's alternative metal
Good Music
You’re listening to Radio X, my name is Sage and if you don’t believe me you can go fuck yourself
I played a show with Super Joint Ritual a long time ago, Phil was saluting Hitler and dropping n-bombs like it was nothing. Total let down to see a hero act like that. But if you listen to younger Phil in songs like 13 Steps and Five Minutes he seems to talk down about racism. Like the opposite of Malcom X who was racist in his young days but against racism in his older days. The second time I Super Joint came through I would have skipped seeing them but Devildriver was playing with them so I went anyway, Phil was so high it literally took four guys to help him stand up the entire show and someone to hold the mic form just for him to murmur into it, pathetic, people pay good money to see him and that's how he repays fans. Regardless, when he sober and playing in the band Down I never hear of any of this behavior. Anyway, it's bullshit to hate anyone for something they can't help, like skin color or taste of music.
Metal is extreme music and have extreme fans: Extremely nice and extremely douchy
I can confirm that the metal community is very welcoming. I am not black racially speaking (my dad is white and my mother is Amerindian) However I do have quite dark skin, mostly because I am really burnt most of the time. In my school which is predominantly Hispanic, there is a white guy, really white (he's Norwegian) and he was so friendly to me when I shared the same passion for music. he didn't like Hispanic immigrants since I live in LA and most of them are not very bright individuals but he didn't have a problem with race at all. actually he defended me a couple of times in class which I really appreciated. even my "own" Hispanic peers have racial prejudice, I for example am called "negro" as a "affectionate" way but deep down it has connotation for me being slightly different than them.
Hispanic isnt a race though.
Uh if he doesn't like Hispanic immigrants then yes he has a problem with ethnicities or races .
Also some Hispanics are white ,black mestizo, indigenous, this is a complicated subject but yes Hispanics of any race can be racist , but that goes for everyone.Most Mexicans are mixed race .I'm sorry you had to deal with that sort of racism but I hope by now your views have changed abit because Im salvadorian and my parents are immigrants , we are not all dumb .
you really proved a lot of great points in this
Black Metal Matters
With freedom of speech comes the responsibility for what you said. You can say whatever you want, but from the moment you said it you have to be open to the fact that someone may call you out on it. It's quite common for people who use the freedom of speech argument to become angry when someone says something about it, as if freedom of speech shields you from criticism. Not necessarily talking about the Pantera incident, but we should also not confuse freedom of speech with hate speech...
Nowadays as someone who is a female who is half black I get called a “poser”just bc I’m a poc and a women.or I get called whitewashed bc I listen to heavy metal.
Music isn’t racist.people are.
Fuck Those Idiots You Are Amazing And Strong For Being Yourself Stay Metal 🔥 People That Feel The Need To Fit In Are Weak As Fuck
But it also depends on how you look. If you have a lot of spikes and a slayer shirt with a bullet belt no one will think you're a poser lmao. But being half black too I heard that dumbass sentence too "yOu ArE wHiTe WaShEd" lmao
@@richardmeyer1837 that's so true people that need to fit are weak as hell
Metal is for everyone. No matter the skin color or religion everybody can enjoy it
I disagree on some points. While I don't think Metal is inherently racist, I think it's more prevalent and accepted than other genres. I mean we have a whole semi-widely known (within metal) subgenre that has racism as a core addition: NSBM. Even without NSBM, Black Metal is racist occasionally and even if it isn't, you can be almost 90% sure its members are racist or discriminatory against religious groups as people. As an Arab Muslim fan of extreme forms of Black Metal, it's hard to find bands that wouldn't want to kill me.
That's totally valid and likely accurate.
Nicole Meehan Thank you for agreeing.
bro, I feel you...
Bethany Nguyen Yeah, being African or Asian fans of metal isn't really as easy as people seem to think it is. Mexicans and Central/South Americans are starting to be generally accepted in metal, though.
+SilverAbsol yeah latin america is fettinf axcepted more which is encouraging. it's just sad that there have been asian, middle eastern and entirely black bands that are metal for long and we get no acceptance from some bands.
Finally found someone addressing this situation from my fellow black metal community. Just gained a subscriber!
I just discovered your channel. You sound very intelligent and down to earth. Great channel. \m/
as a middle eastern, it's sad how heavy metal is treated in the middle east, it's seen as talentless satanic evil music by most ppl if not all, im one of the few fans 🤘
Africa also has a booming metal scene. Hispanic metalhead here \m/
subbed because of the way you've handled this subject :) hails from the uk bro!
I grew up as a Metal fan on an island in the coast of Africa. I'm racially of Indian descent and most people around me at the time were from the same origin and we all grew up with Metal. However, when I moved to England and went to certain metal shows. I used to get drinks and bottles thrown at me. It was so weird to me because I shared to the same love and passion for Metal like them but was treated differently due to the colour of my skin. However, not all shows that I attended. Some of them.
Heavy metal is not racist at all. Heavy metal is a uniform to unite everyone who loves it regardless of race if the uniform doesn't fit you simply don't wear it
great video! Whats your view on satanism in black metal ..eg. gorgoroth
I'm planning on doing a video about why Satanism is so prevalent in some types of metal
Looking forward to see the video, keep up the great videos 😊
I thought living color was a sketch show from the 1990s? lol
+Freyja11331ify context context
Living Colour was a band that played a combination of hard rock& funk music
Great video man! in all honesty the metal community are the greatest people i have ever met. They are never quick to judge on anything and they have the most respect for everyone. I have been a MetalHead since i was 12 and im not going to stop until the day i die.
I really like your videos, simple yet interesting. Keep it up!
I have never really experienced Racism in the metal scene. I have seen people at shows that are more than likely Racist. As an African American male who works engineering music I can say that I have seen more racism at hiphop shows than metal especially when Caucasian or Latino spectators arrive to a venue in a predominantly black area. That being said Racist fucks are everywhere I've had my own moments. It will probably be another century before it Peters out the more people embrace the fact that we are all really mutts and no one is pure anything. Early man was a horndog and just got in where he could fit in. So a lot of us have trace amounts of races we wouldn't even dream of in our DNA. But as I said even with this knowledge I sometimes have slip ups. I would say it isn't prevalent in Metal more like Metal has that stigma because people automatically associate groups of tattooed, pierced and combat booted Caucasians with Racists. Skin heads etc.
Finally, someone made a very well thought out, poignant video!
Me personally, it wasn't so much the actions of Anselmo that annoyed me, but more the people who defended him simply because they hero worship Pantera. They wouldn't have done that if Pantera wasn't as big as they are. I do greatly appreciate that he apologized for it, but it doesn't make it any more acceptable to do that. And when people say "Oh, why were you offended by this? Of all people, blah blah", that itself offends me more than someone who actually IS a white supremacist
I also heavily defend freedom of speech and yes, you can say whatever you like, but just because you CAN say it, doesn't necessarily mean that you SHOULD
This channel is growing on me lately. I think your topics are metal elephants in the room, and it's needed to be said.
hey dude i love your Channel and started loving metal more what would you recommend for a new metalhead
I'm glad you like my channel! For a beginner metalhead I would suggest starting with a lot of the very early metal bands like Black Sabbath, Ozzy, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Saxon ect. You'll probably love those bands and then gain a thirst for other types of metal and grow from there. Let me know how you like those bands!
Metal is truly universal and accepting, one of many reasons why it's the best genre
The lead singer of Alice In Chains is black, and he's one of the coolest people ever!
And the lead singer of Sevendust.
Killswitch Engaged ex-singer is. Ice Cube has a metal band too.
PBnJGuitarist I believe you mean Ice T. Ice Cube never had a metal band.
Layne was better
ALice in Chains is not metal, so what's the point? There are actual metal bands with black members, like Suffocation or Hirax.
Man I just found your channel, nice video!
Hey dude, I like your mjolnir pendant, where did you get it?
Some people are racist, it is not dependent on the music they are into
First of all: Heavy Metal is the offspring of Rock Music, while Rock is the offspring of Blues, so the roots of Heavy Metal are pretty black. Second: Heavy metal is international. It exists on every continent. There are even Metal bands in the Middle East and in Africa. Of course there are many racist metal fans, but they're just ignorant and I think they ruin the scene -- just like any assholes in a group of people. If you think of different subgenres of Metal, the fanbase kinda differs: while in the Black Metal scene there are a lot of racists and even right out Nazis, the Thrash Metal scene is pretty much Left-wing and Liberal. So many Metal bands have made anti-racist statements and many have written anti-racist songs (Iron Maiden, Kreator, Sepultura, Napalm Death, Machine Head, Gorefest, Arch Enemy, Amorphis, Moonsorrow -- just to name a few) while racist bands are somewhat in marginal (NSBM and some other Black Metal bands). And what about all the multicultural/multiracial metal bands? Slayer, Suffocation, Sepultura, Dream Theater, Death Angel -- the list goes on... And then there is even the band called Noxa from Indonesia which has one very unique character: all members are from a different religion. Drummer Oxen is a Christian, guitarist Ade is a Muslim, bassist Dipa is a Hindu, and vocalist Tony is a Buddhist. How about diversity here? :D
ANTIFAxFINLAND Man.....srsly Im so jealous of you being in a country such as Finland....awesome weather (I love rain, snow, cold), awesome culture, METALHEADS EVERYWHERE \m/ and lakes... greetings from Germany :D
dumbest comment ever.
blues has nothing to do with spirit of rock or metal.
no black roots, sorry.
ANTIFAxFINLAND Rock is a fusion of blues and country music. Country music. Blues was heavily influenced by European folk music. So no it's not exclusively black.
Rock & Roll : , Minstrel, Delta blues, Sothtern baptist Gospel, ,Early Country,Swing , R&B ... the blues came from the Mississippi delta & is engenous to America.. how could it have been influenced by European folk music? Rock & Roll's chief influence is African ( through African music& rhythms/ Voo Doo)
ANTIFAxFINLAND great words coming from a low key terrorist organization
You are a really wise man my friend. I would consider myself a punk-rock/metalhead and i think i can speak for us all when i say "f**k what everyone else is thinking" If just everyone could understand that everyone is entitled their own opinions without necessarily being a jerk the world would be such a better place. I really liked the video and have watched a couple of your others so you definitely deserves a sub.
Hello Blackmetal Werewolf. I enjoy watching your videos and the highlight for in this video was when you were talking about freedom of speech. For some reason people think that metalheads blindly follow every single word that the bands say in their songs which I totally disagree with. For me metal is a way of experiencing certain emotions or get in to certain mindsets that some of us can never get into. Once you hear it, it's up to us to follow it or forget about it.
P.S. I really like to hear your opinions on progressive rock and progressive metal bands(opeth and porcupine tree for some examples). Cheers.
To qoute Bruce Dickinson "We got fans every color, ever creed, every fucking religion. It does not matter if you are jewish, muslim, christian. We are all Blood Brothers." One of the best deiftions on how metal should be considered. Unfortunatlly, its not the case. I remeber when Derrick toke over from Max in Sepultura in the 90ies. Waaay to many where going "How the hell can a black man be in a metal band?! Its just wrong!" and so on and so forth. Its fucking discusting. It has gotten better tho, but not that much... As an exampel, Killswitch Engageds former singer got accepted even tho he wasent white..
i live in sgv in la and I have never met a white metalhead unless I was at a show. in high school all the metalheads, punks, goths, emos etc were mostly latinos and a few asians.
edit: i’m mexican native american and on the rez, many natives love metal
Sup dude, I really like your videos, you have great opinions which I agree with you a lot on the topics you have talked about. I want to ask you a few questions, what's your view on the Nu Metal genre? what death metal or melodic death metal bands should I listen to? I'm currently listening to Dethklok and I really like the sound and I want to listen more on what it has to offer, and I don't know if you are in a band but I'm trying to form or look for a band at the moment I do death growling which is the only vocals I can do and I write lyrics based on my personal experiences and other subjects such as my ancestry as I'm very proud of it cause my ancestry is surprisingly important to my country I'm all the way from New Zealand by the way and I write themes based on warfare, if you are in a band how do you find or form a (any sub genre) metal band? Sorry for the long comment and the questions but you seem to be a cool dude, keep up the great work!
hey, I'm really glad you like my stuff! thank you very much!
So, as for Nu metal I don't really like it. The whole rap influence kind of sours the whole experience for me. I listen to metal because I don't like other types of music so when they put other music genres in metal it ruins it for me.
If you want to check out more death metal you should listen to Cannibal Corpse, Wolfheart, Death, Morbid Angel. I think you'll like them.
Unfortunately I'm not in a band. But if you're trying to form one I suggest finding people who share the same vision as you and be open to compromise.
Thanks a lot man I will give them a listen!
Dude this video is pretty good. I think you hit a lot of good points and I'm definitely subscribed. I'm just wondering if you've ever thought of having panels on your channel. You seem like a thoughtful guy who has a lot of questions, so maybe if you had a panel of other metalheads from different walks of life send in clips that answer some of your questions or questions you get asked I think that'd be cool. Also, it could be good for generating more discussion in the comments. Not that hearing your opinion is bad, it would just be intereating to hear from some of your friends too. Just an idea.
Metalhead here and never experienced any kind of racism or prejudice in metal towards Blacks or Latins, but
i´ve saw a lot of that and worse in the gothic scene.
@ALIVE unfortunately Eurogoths are like that in most part. Particularly this behavior is more prominent in woman.
LIked your video, but as a South American, I'd like to add that you do see people of all ethnicities in metal, even here, it is still more prevalent around whites than anything else, although I was in Bolivia once where most of the population is non-white (I'm from Uruguay, 90% of the population is white of european descent) and there's a sizable metal scene there, many national and local bands, they just don't get as many international shows, so many cross to Argentina which is the country the probably gets the most metal shows in all of Southern south america at least.
Exactly, I'm from Paraguay, and we use to organize tours to go to Argentina, I traveled to attend Judas Priest, Motorhead and Ozzy at Monsters of rock.. however many metal bands came here in Paraguay already, from Metallica, Megadeth, Grim Reaper to Gorgoroth, Belphegor and Mayhem and the list keeps going,
not a heavy metal fan, was here because of the hair, but this ended up being interesting so thank you (for the info) totally subscribed.
That vinyl record that you talking about is British punk band called skrewdriver album white rider
Make Black Metal Offensive Again.
Tosin. Abasi.
FACTS!!!
it would be so cool if you would make a video where you show the patches on your battle vest :3
That's coming soon. I shot a video about that last month but it turned out really bad so I'm going to redo it lol
+Blackmetal Werewolf (Blackmetalwerewolf) yay, I'm already excited to see it ^~^
im black im 14 i love METAL GENRES
Yeah i agree that the guy can think what he wants, that being said i still have an opinion to his opinion. And i think his opinion, if he wasn't drunk and being stupid, was out of context and immoral
I love metal since my 14,s 15,s and im black sometimes i feel some headbangers had a stange reation when they realise that i like metal such genres as black death etc.. is like saying that rap or reagge is for black people there is examples for all kind black or latinos even asian doing great metal or rock and white people doig great rap or reagge blues etc.... just remenber some of the great musicians or bands in rock or metal have latin ,african roots or are it.like jimmi hendix body count ,suicidal tendecies guitar player, suffocation ,the fist line up had two black people and they sound raw,brutal one of great deathmetal bands even dead kennedys the drumer is black...
Very well said young man!!!!! These are the values I try to instill on my teenage grandsons.
I actually had a friend who listened to some heavy metal and classic rock and is black.
Same with last school year, she listens to Nightcore, electronic music(particularly dubstep and electro swing), classic rock and some hard rock and heavy metal. Then there were some friends of mine who were more hispanic and listen to Post Hardcore and maybe some heavy metal like Killswitch Engage for example, at least one also listens to alot of dubstep, the heavy, headbangy stuff, not everything in it like liquid or chillstep for example.
4:22 - remember Heavy Metal was invented by a black man! And he's NO footnote musician- he's a household name among rock historians: JIMI HENDRIX!!!!
I've seen A LOT of non- whites at Tool Concerts. So Tool is not racist at least.
I got into metal at around 8 and I’m 26 now...from what I’ve experienced first hand from being in bands, jamming out, going to shows, parties or whatever, There have been people of all colors there and they were always the most inclusive groups ive been around. Metal heads just wanna jam out and have a good time. It’s like an unofficial club of sorts. Every time I meet a new metal head even in the street it usually starts with a compliment from one party to another followed by a conversation about music and the person is typically always friendly. Ive definitely met some asshats in pits but no one likes those guys anyway lol
Hispanic Metalhead here. Been listening and going to shows since I was 15 and now 36 . Never had a problems at shows and the community is pretty welcoming and friendly.
nice ron maiden shirt 😂😂😂
To be honest rap is a thousand times more racist than metal
Trevor Stockton I personally disagree. Sure rap may get political often but I've never really heard anything deliberately racist in a rap song.
False.
Trevor Stockton True, I've seen many whites getting in rap battles and getting shit on by blacks just because of their skin color.
I agree
Lmao at thousand times. Sounds like a guilty white boy
I've felt like the metal community is more accepting. I have made friends with metalheads that are white and they never say "you are Mexican, you can't listen to metal", all they say is "what are your favorite bands". As long as you share the same love for metal, metalheads won't discriminate against you.
As a mixed race, Christian metal fan, I love your channel! Race, religion and all that stuff shouldn’t divide the scene! Heavy metal!!!
Hello mate, i salute you from Romania!
As a religious person, i don't really like listening to metal that promotes satanism e.g slayer and like all of the black metal bands :D. I really like slayer because of dave lombardo and tom araya because they are some really nice guys from what i have seen in their interviews. but based on kerry andu hanneman(rip), i really don't like them. i know they are not satanist or anything, but trying to be badass as you are writing devil based lyrics is just lame. as you are a black metal fan, can you tell me what is your opinion on the satanistical presence in the lyrics of black metal bands or metal in general?
I am not a total metal fan or a metalhead because i also listen to rap music and some softer metal music that is rock. when it comes to metal i am listening to sabbath, osbourne, maiden, the big 4 thrash metal gods, linkin park, nightwish. As you can see, i am not into the brutal side of metal as it does not appeal to me. All that being said, what is your opinion on them load/reload/st.anger albums of metallica? do you hate them because they are not metal and they selled out and all these kind of stuff or can you find all the good stuff in all their music?
P.S i can hardly wait for the upcoming metallica record and i already bought tickets for the megadeth concert in bucharest on the 13 th on july so i'm PUMPED
I'll be doing a video about the whole Satanism thing in metal in the near future so you'll be able to get my opinions on that when I make the video. As for those Metallica albums they certainly aren't my favourites but they do have a few high points in them. I hate using the term "selling out" because I feel like it's a meaningless insult people use to describe something they don't like.
Also, i really don't know how i found you, it just came on my recommended panel in youtube saying something like speed metal related, i guess it was a lucky recommendation, because i subscribed :D. Also do you think that Ulrich deserves the shit he gets for being not a technical drummer but a simplistic one that suits his band well? Do you agree with piracy in music?
+Dorian Costin I don't think he deserves nearly as much hate as he gets. There are a lot of drummers who are much worse than he is lol. As for piracy I don't agree with it. I wouldn't want to work for free so why should musicians? I understand some people can't afford a lot of albums and some countries have really high prices but I'm still not comfortable with it
thankies mate you look like you are an ok, rational being. it was nice talking to you
Satanic subjects are popular amongst metal bands. If you don't like it then don't listen to it. You can't sing about puppies and flowers to the music that is being played and on top of that metal is all about realism. Not every metal head has a positive outlook on life and it's an art of it's own kind.
Listen dude, fuck that I'm black I've always been a metal head since I was young, my parents thought that metal was racist and the crowds wouldnt like me there (Mind you this is 2008 dude) Anyone who's been around for a minute knows that metal is one of the most DIVERSE cultures ever, like rap music and all that shit is so isolated with the crowd and who goes to shows that it does seem segregated but no one is brave enough to say it.
Rap music is racist as fuck.
cool video! what do you think of Polish death metal like Vader, Hate, Behemoth etc.
thank you! I'm a very big fan of Vader and Behemoth so Polish death metal is pretty damn good in my books
Epic video! lots of good information and hopefully it answers people's question.