RSI Galaxy Buyers Beware | Star Citizen IAE 2952
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- Опубліковано 13 лип 2024
- Oh mama the new Roberts Space Industry Galaxy is smoking hot, so before you jump on this hype train check in with your conductor Lead as he breaks down a few important things to consider before forking over that money to big daddy CR.
**This video was written pre-release, with the intention to air 11/26 on RSI Day. However since so much Galaxy content has rolled out today, 11/25 you're getting it early **
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0:00 - Introduction
2:32 - Galaxy Intro
3:57 - Creeping Issues
7:19 - Buying Considerations: Carrack
7:42 - Buying Considerations: Caterpillar
8:31 - Buying Considerations: Expanse
9:13 - Buying Considerations: Apollos
9:31 - Buying Considerations: Everyone Else
10:16 - Buying Considerations: Lead's an Idiot
11:06 - What the Galaxy Means - Ігри
The Galaxy looks like a large liveaboard adventurer that can also become an Apollo, Expanse, or Caterpillar at will, and having a shuttle craft for that extra bit of Star Trek experience. Very intriguing ship. Great coverage!
The "at will" part might be a stretch - assuming that the modules are going to have a physicalized location that you will have to return to in order to swap them out.
@@kilozulu2413 dont forget the costly price for those modules
yes because you can just EVA and change the module. IT cant become anything at will. youll have to fly back to a home base where your module is and switch it out then fly back to whatever you were doing.
@@koolerpure how much should they charge for it?
If you own most of the support ships, you don't need the Galaxy. It's a great ship for a crew of friends / org that has basics ships. What we need to keep in mind about modular ships is that none of the modules will be worked on until the mechanics of their role is defined and implemented in the game. So, it might take a long time for those ships to be playable in their intended roles. I think we don't need new ships; we need game mechanics and that will start with PES!
I would suspect that this is only true for the refinery module as medical and cargo systems are already implemented.
what really intrigues me is the galaxies use as a fleet hospital/lazaret ship: its larger than an apollo, but better armed and more capable of escaping than a endeavor hope. While it's not quite my price/size range to buy, i am excited to see what people do with it when its out
The Galaxy looks like it ticks all the boxes on paper but you do raise some excellent points over the modularity and I do have an Expanse. Thanks for this breakdown.
Keep up the great work! Good timing on this one ;P
Thanks - it was a push to get it done when I decided to push it out early.
I hope there is a lot of synergie between the 3 big ships from rsi so they can develop them together much faster
Great information! Thanks for taking the time to provide plenty data and opinion.
Gratz on nearing your subscriber milestone, hopefully by now you've surpassed it! As for the galaxy, I'm looking forward to more ships like the carrack, galaxy, odyssey, bmm, etc. being in the game and the verse being large enough to accommodate them and their respective game loops. Seems that it might still be a while before we get there, but hopefully they keep on course, keep learning and improving, and don't forget their community so that one day the game might live up to it's potential.
I think all of these new ships are great but I hope they start coming out from concept faster than before. Also, great video!
Didn't they release like six ships this year?
@@billywashere6965 yeah small ones. The debate here is about the bigger ships (100+ meters) that take over a year to make after entering active production.
@@th3orist Sure, waiting 5+ years is a test for patience, but common sense must be applied here. The tech to make these ships viable in-game isn't even in game, so what exactly are people expecting? CIG has mentioned time and time over again why even some completed large ships aren't in the game, like the Hull-C. They COULD put it in the game, but then what? The same amount of people in the "community" complaining about CIG not delivering large concept ships will be complaining that the current ships have "no gameplay". Remember those same people have also recently made videos complaining about that regarding ships like the Reclaimer and Carrack since they're missing they're gameplay loops too?
CIG is ultimately in a no-win situation with these people, many of whom simply want to complain for the sake of complaining. They have no clue how to design a game, or what it takes to build a game of this size/scope and make some of these promised features work. CIG has at least been open about WHY these large sub capital and capital ships aren't in the game, and have openly explained what the tech blockers have been for them.
Whether people are willing to listen and be patient is up to them. CIG selling concepts to continue to help fund development is just the name of the game.
For as much as I've seen people complain about everything CIG does to generate funds, I have never once seen one person offer any sort of sound business advice on how they can make just as much money, produce all of the backcatalog of ships, and maintain the operating costs to keep 800+ people employed. It's much easier to complain about concept ship JPGs than to come up with solutions, as evident by the litany of Reddit posts upvoted by hundreds or thousands of people who not once offered any legitimate solutions to their own gripes.
@@billywashere6965 while i appreciate your input (in the other discussion too) i get the impression that your goal is to deflect valid criticism. You say having to wait 5 years is a test of patience, now tbh i find that pretty much to be an euphemism for good marketing in order to milk the passion of the backers. You could also say that CIG dug that hole for themselves and now has to justify that vicious circle they created, because they listened maybe too much to the dreams and wishes of the community (of which you just yourself said we dont have any idea how to run a business like this, so then why trust us in terms of what we want to see in general in the game while it might be technically not very possible or with super super long development time?). So "the community" always serves as the scape goat here so to speak, depending what needs justifying. If there is criticism about the length of development the reply is "But the community wanted that". If there is criticism about why a ship is not yet in the game after 5 years of being just concept the reply is "But the community would complain if it comes out without mechanics." You see a pattern here? It's never "on CIG" and that i find at least a bit odd. Don't get me wrong, i like the project and have been following it for over 6 years but i don't want to justify a certain business practice simply from the stand point of "but how else could they generate x amount of money?" Well, maybe it would've been a good idea to simply not give in to dreams and wishes of fans if you as a gamedev at that point in time have literally zero idea if and when it will be feasible to implement? It's like "yeah sure throw all your money at us and we will figure the rest out later." A passionate backer has no insight into these processes (as you yourself said) so they act from a point of naivety and passion and it's the job of the developer to put the foot in the door and say "stop, until here but not more". And imho CIG failed to do that and that's what led us to today and having these kinds of tech debts, barriers, blockers and whatnot that complement each other to create even bigger and time consuming problems. I have been defending CIG with exactly the words you just wrote. Simply can't anymore, because the longer it takes it becomes more and more apparent that we are kind of stuck in mud and the wheels are spinning with very little progress compared to the time frame. And of course there is also SQ42 that also serves as a reason why progress in the PU is slow and how convenient is it that it can't be verified because its 'under wraps'? You see how well crafted all these arguments are to help defend CIG?
@@th3orist Sure, CIG did create the cycle that some consider to be a problem for themselves. They didn't have to listen to gamers and increase the scope. They didn't have to build new middleware or design ships around tech that doesn't yet exist. They didn't have to do any of that... but then the result would have been Elite Dangerous just re-titled to Star Citizen. Elite Dangerous is literally Star Citizen without the tech debt. Because they played it safe, they made a product and they released it. It's technically complete.
But now here's the thing, we already have Elite Dangerous, so what's the point in repeating that?
I don't continue to give CIG money to redo, remake, or retread where everyone else has already been. Every single other AAA publisher in the industry right at this very moment is doing that. Every new live-service is just a retread of what came before. Nothing groundbreaking, nothing new. It's fancier graphics on tried and true concepts running on tried and true tech. It's safe, relatively affordable (for the size of the publishers) and usually results in big returns on the backend (i.e., post-launch DLC, pre-launch DLC, microtransactions, look boxes, and battle passes).
Now is CIG to blame for their own situation? Sure. But as I said, how else do they reach the point where they are if they hadn't? They sold people on a dream no one else is even bothering to make, and they have to keep the funding going to make that dream come true. At this point, it seems ridiculous to start trying to curb that funding as if what they've already accomplished isn't proof enough of the concept for the dream they want to make into a reality.
Is there some other studio attempting the same thing with the same fidelity and scope? Is there a cheaper but equally feature rich space sim available? As I've said... if there's someone with the business acumen to suggest an alternative funding methodology, I would be all for it... if it works, and I'm sure CIG would be to. But at this point it is what it is because the beast is too large to sate any other way.
So long as they keep chipping away at milestones and forcibly pushing the gaming industry forward, I'm okay with that... because in the end, what's the alternative?
I love the Galaxy. Can't say I'll utilize all 3 modules but a Medical ship with the option to swap to somewhat large cargohold is very tempting. Hyped about the unannounced modules
Really helpful and insightful info! First video I've seen of yours, but it's great. Thank you!
love how you put the pros and cons together and be honest
Love your videos as always! So much to think about. I feel like I'd prefer a Polaris, but I worry about having enough people to run it...
The Galaxy looks great! The cargo module alone will be useful. However, I wish CIG would have included different modules over the same medical and refining capabilities we already have other ships in development to perform. LTI options for modules would have been appreciated as well for people who chose to upgrade.
Thank you for the Video Leadnap, I am considering getting the Galaxy and you gave me a more clear and focused thought process, thanks you
Always enjoy the candid vids!
Im looking forward to the concept art for the Polaris they are goign to show us next week. Im hoping it will match the Galaxies general design language, but have a lager hangar and large adjoining cargo hold. Then a torpedo room. Im looking forward to seeing how similar the Polaris is to the Galaxy. Think I'm goign to go for the Polaris. its like a Galaxy.. but has teeth. plus as the captain you get to say "torpedoes, full spread!" which is defanatly a good feature.
All these ships releasing are getting me excited but I'm still leaning toward the merchentman when it's ready as one of my wants.
well they delayed it
my problem here (i own a bmm as well) it that the bmm is absolutely huge now (200+m) and im probably better off with something 90-110m
@@mrblobby6284 Thats why I ccu'd my expanse to the galaxy, so that if my BMM is too much, I have something smaller for general play with friends.
Great Video and I think it makes a great competitor while having its own uniqueness and shortcomings that make you have to balance which ship and feature are most important to you. Well done sir. o7
Great video. It definitely made me think more about my options. The fact that you have to chose one module makes you have to really think about what gameplay you want to be doing. Where as I wanted this ship to be able to cover everything.
Thanks.
It makes me nauseous to see CIG pumping out concepts that fill the same role as years-old concepts. A modular ship that can carry hundreds of SCU and work as a medical facility or do some exploration or science work? What did I just describe? Four different unreleased ships and/or modules.
Where is my Endeavor??!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My very-very-generous optimism is that the Galaxy will be the clean-slate modular test platform to implement modularity and determine best practices going forward.
Here's the main difference between then and now. They're feeling much more confident in their ability to deliver on this multirole ship within the next few major patches than ever before. The fact that they even brought it back up to begin with says a lot with them being extremely hesitant to bring up any topic without something to show for it these days.
@@rhadiem that's going to be the last ship ever made, you should be aware of this already. It was in the cult of the endeavor pamphlets when you joined
The cat modules supposedly do all of that and more! Lololol
Just imagining how it would feel to get all of those ships in one year..
That's exactly how CIG plan it: they want you to imagine it, not actually have it. This particular ship looks nice, although it does look like 2 other concepts we're "imagining" already, so that's a let down. Still, it doesn't really offer anything special either. You'll be 2nd fiddle to an Endeavor Hope, or you'll be second fiddle to a future capital refining ship, or you'll be 2nd fiddle to, ummm? oh something that I don't give a crap about either - it's a piss poor useless ship actually. If this game ever gets going, which I doubt, this is one I would regret buying. In any event, like the other two better ships that look like it, they're all going to be exactly where they are right now, but in 2032 i.e. not even started!
@@darthschumy But you don't have to ever regret buying any ship (other than spending the money in the first place) if you find out another ship ends up suiting you better then you can upgrade or melt.
@@darthschumy doom and gloomer b like
THat's how you realise you're in the matrix
Great video! Thanks for your analysis of the RSI Galaxy.
Awesome analysis as always! Thank you for your quality content.
I always thought the carrack would be the end-all of non-combat subcaps, but they really outdid themselves here. Probably gonna get a CCU to it or something, just hope that it releases soon.
before saying this i would wait for the 'real life' version of this ship. never judge purely from concept.
I love the design of this ship but it looks and feels more like a combat platform than anything else
Looks yeah, feels nah. It has 3xS5 turrets so it's not going to do much.
Not with THAT turret placement and the turrets being the only weapons it has. Anything manages to latch onto the top of that ship is going to eat it alive. And if the modulars are any indication, the rear half past the belly is also going to be a major liability so it's rear is a massive blindspot. A parasite ship is going to be MANDATORY to peel anything out of it's blind spot in combat. In short, this thing is a massive combat liability. Likely able to hold it's own in a support capacity but a combat platform it is not.
Its best use is going to be in a support element. Logistics. Transport. Senors. Outpost. ect. It's going to be a very versatile ship who's main function is filling in whatever gap you're missing outside of combat.
Great vid!! made very good points about the CAT and the Carrack... i own both and hadnt considered this. i am still very excited about the Galaxy and will more than likely get a CCU for one. ty for the vid
First video I've seen of yours, and it was an immediate subscribe! Excellent video!
Well I'm super happy I found this chanel love the info!
Great video! Subscribed and have been watching your past videos as well.
Actually a very well thought out vid. Well done.
You are absolutely right about this. Congrats 🎉👏 on the subs, budd!
Thanks for the breakdown Lead! Been waiting for your vid to see if using store credit would be worth it :)
I think we are all going to have to rethink how modularity ships fit into the whole mix after we get a real taste of multiple star systems and what it's like to be really spread out from easily swapping for the rest of your fleet. Right now, in Stanton you are only a few minutes away from your specialty ship to do your specific role. I'm curious to see how this progresses as we have more reason to want all arounders and stay out in the black longer. Great video, keep it up!
Thanks for bring me a bit back on the ground, and start to think about what it really offers, over what else i have already! And see if its value is any good for me!
Always appreciate your balanced approach to ship releases. You come from a strong supporting position for SC without getting too caught up in hype, which is a great approach in my opinion. Many people are full hype or full salt. Also your price guess was spot on lol. Of note, the cat already got a price bump last year, it was 290, now 330. Not 100% sure but 90ish.
@Leadnap this a real thing?
Thanks for the info! Really helpfull once more.
Great video, very informative. Keep it up!
"Ooooh Mama"
I love the classic sci-fi wedge shape to the Galaxy.
@Leadnap Gaming - Great analysis! Thanks for saving me from pulling out my wallet with your rational points. Great channel and thank you for your contributions to the community. Keep it up!
I was hoping for the best with this ship after seeing the leeks, I was very happy with it and it fills a good slot on my fleet so I got one. Your content seems great this being my first video that I have seen, keep it up.
Whow . What a good neutral Summary of the goods and bads of the Galaxy. You made really good points to consider! Thank you ! 🙏
Interesting video. Thanks mate. Was not sure if I should buy it but I'll wait now.
Mate. Love the video you really helped me make a decision!!!
Love the vid btw thanks for putting it together :)
Love the vid. Great points to consider for all
I will buy this ship. New to the game but have liked watching content creators such as yourself for awhile. Great info in a timely manner and concise format. Thanks for all you do for the community.
Great video! Splendid coverage! You got my mind flowing as my wallet was ready to pledge for the Galaxy concept. As i do own a caterpillar already, i might rethink it all l, but itll all show when RSI is on the IAE.
Thanks for the vid Leadnap Gaming!
Great looking ship - love the blue floors and green lighting. Plants are a nice touch too! I like the galaxy’s inter far more than the sterile Carrack (especially the Captain’s quarters
After all of this, Thank you for giving some solid info and advice to consider about before purchase or upgrading... IT is a stunning and beautiful ship with how they have displayed and shown... but I may have to wait just a smidge longer for sure!
Great video! I feel the same way with the Galaxy. I hope it has great armor to make up for the 1 S3 shield
The more I think about it lately, the more I want to get an endeavor instead even if I have to wait longer. Thanks for the early vid!
if you look at the floor of the Galaxy cargo module, its got 8 areas marked off for the 32 SCU containers, and you can stack them 2 high [see concept art where they have the Covalex box on the tractor beam/scafold and you can see similar sized boxes stacked to the sides, 2 high]. That equals 512 SCU in the cargo version. There is also supposed to be another amount of cargo without the box and we've seen cargo on the central lift for the med module, and what may be a smaller lift in the refinery module
been studying the pics available.
Definitely a ton of good points. I did get hyped but now I’m hesitant. Thank you I have to decide what gameplay I want to do
The biggest part of this reveal to me was that it showed me a glimpse into what my Perseus might look like lol 😂
It looks awesome, being able to change the modules is a plus
We need some gameplay loops but the ships are pretty stunning. Great video dude!
Good luck everyone , Happy Holidays and stay positive !
Leadnap, you nailed it with this video ahead of the official Galaxy concept release!!
The Galaxy looks nice. Thanks for the buyers guide and thoughts on this ship.
Good luck everyone. Galaxy looks freaking awesome
It's what I was hoping for the Odyssey, but I'm glad proper ship refining is coming out.
Perhaps the Odyssey could be modified with modules, but that's just an idea.
I'm sure at the end we'll have enough ships for every role and personal taste.
Really loving these wedge designs. I hope they implement them to complement each other to a point where it makes sense to run a fleet of them.
I absolutely love RSI design, they always look awesome!
Thank you for reasoning and helping fighting the urge you to buy them all.
Thanks for your thoughts on this new ship. It looks beautiful and tempting. I own some of your proposed combinations so I guess I’m holding of. Keep the great content coming!
Dude you raised some points that I didn't even think of. The fact the other modular ships seems to have more benefits.
Thanks for the review!
I have a Carrack and checking if should also get the Galaxy. Great video. Thanks
Thanks for the info. You provide some pretty great analysis there! I will say that the modularity thing has always spooked me a bit though. Too complicated, and I don't yet know how it'll pan out.
8:00 there is a cargo elevator in the middle of the module, slightly bigger than the one on the med module, and if I'm right, also bigger than the one on the refinery module (if there is one)
refinery don't have one, but bags get sucked from outside the hull thanks to a tractor beam that plug them in place of the cargo door. So you don't need a hangar to pick a mole/prospector bags or even bigger bags from another mining ship. You just need to tow them to you, plug them on the hull, and empty them. Then, send them back to the mining ship and process to stock inside of the mandatory cargo hold. Or, maybe send them back to prospector straight away, like expanse does. :)
One thing for sure, bags never enter the ship and its showned in an artwork ;) Thats pretty cool btw ^^
9:57 you can see it :)
We don't know for certain yet that it doesn't have a built in med bay, I hope it does. It is a really nice looking ship, love the RSI look. Thanks for the great video!
Its definitely good to have larger constellation in game however this is a step back and think rather than wallet out situation - nice video
Good view around the hype. You can save 100% of your money :)
It’s a very good looking ship and great timing on the video
The Galaxy is in my opinion a solid large vehicle choice and hopeful example for future releases of other manufactures. So like the Spirit that could have been modular as well. It would open future proof easy variety in ships and companies for new game loops.
Gotta love the galaxy! Really optimistic for ships even tho they’ll take a while to add
Great break down of the ships
Recently found your channel, love the content
I just love this design. Reminds me a little bit of the star destroyer from Star Wars
hopefully the presence of multiple large RSI concepts mean they can develop assets that can be used for multiple ships, accelerating production. Oh wow you literally make the same point. excellent!
Pretty good call on the pricing, almost dead on. I'd add to what you said by pointing out that carrack has 3 module slots over the one which to me is a massive increase in versatility when they actually get modules into the game
Awesome point of view - Thanks :)
love your videos, great information.
Very well said! I was just talking to my buddies today about the carrack getting a refinery module. Would be so cool!
Can almost guarantee that won't happen as it would make the Carrack so overpowered.
@@rooster1012 I think it depends on it's implementation. Galaxy has a trap door tractor beam for saddlebags, carrack could be much more involved / difficult / slower / less yield / ect. It can be balanced.
Very good points, when you get past the hype of a fancy new ship. My friend owns both a carrack and a caterpillar and he wants to buy this ship as well. I'll link him this video then see what he thinks
The galaxy looks great but I wish they'd focus on concept ships already in the works. Great video as always. 😊
Looks nice....andmodularity really is something to wait for.
Dont need ten ships is one can do all those jobs.
You made some great points Lead! I think there is better value in sticking with my Carrack for now. Of course, if the price is right, I might have to pick one up just because it looks cool...but even then I might pass it up. Time will tell...
I'm liking the gantry crane. One thing putting me off multiple different cargo ships is if we have to tractor beam individual boxes, because no one's got time for that.
As always great content.
I view the Galaxy as CIG finally finding their legs for modularity. The Tally and 600i more than likely taught them some valuable lessons in implementation, which opened doors for test beds like the Galaxy. I anticipate that the Carrac and Cat will only benefit from this progress, and believe we'll be seeing those sooner than folks think.
I love my Carrack more then any other ship I own, but Imma ged dat faddy Gally for sure. Great video mate. Subscribed!
Woohoo - a MISC and an Odyssey to boot. Great giveaway. I subscribed. Cheers. Good luck every one.
As a concept, I absolutely love this ship... If it can fit my Titan in the back, then I am sold on it. Love the looks and styling and not even bothered if it doesn't have pilot controlled weapons. This ship looks like home to me
Mapping the interior it is on par with the carrack for the size of the modular bays.
Carrack modular bay size: 507m^2 (appx)
Galaxy modular bay size: 550m^2 (appx)
being someone who is in love with the modern RSI design style and the added bonus of its modulatiry im definately shilling out for the galaxy as my first big buy as long it aint crazy expensive
According to the ISC vid, the Galaxy with the cargo module will hold 544 SCU. Based on the concept pictures, it'll hold 16x32-SCU (512 SCU) + 32 SCU in a separate cargo area. I'm looking forward to its modularity, since I'd like to have a large ship that can do each of those roles.
The info on the site says the cargo module has 512 SCU, that combined with the 64 SCU of the hanger bay means it would have a total of 576 SCU. Same as the Caterpillar.
@@OmegaZyion Yeah, they updated it, I guess we can probably stack another 32 SCU on top of or beside the first 32 SCU they said in the ISC vid.
thanks for the vid leadnap!