I mean... At least your channel is well named for having volume issues 😝 Edit: Thanks for the warning btw. Volume was a little off, but I've definitely heard worse... Today. You're doing great 🙂👍
Maybe for the getting organized series, you could do a pirate fleet? Pirating is going to be more viable in 3.18 so there will also be more interest towards all things pirate
The most thoughtful Star Citizen content creator out there. Videos are always meticulously organized and chaptered, with content that cuts through the positive/negative hype frenzies with some interesting insights. I'm admittedly biased, because you were the one that "taught a man to fish" regarding solo-Mole quant mining, unlocking complete financial security in the game for me. But regardless, when I want some no-risk, always-worth-the-time SC content, this is where I head. Keep up the good work. 🍻 And for my SC money, I want us all to be much more focused on the gameplay mechanics and game loops, rather than the outstanding ships that depend on them. What's a Crucible without repair? A Genesis without passenger transport? A Perseus without targets worthy of the firepower? A Hull-C/D/E without the Quantum / dynamic economy system to drive such commodity volumes? Build the mechanics and the ships will come.
Thanks for your calm and rational take on the situation. Alot of other content creators are getting pretty upset. I'll probably grab this ship with game credit then melt it when I get bored of the loaner carrack
I really appreciate the balanced views. Great points all around. Having said that, I will likely be dropping cash today, but only on a warbond CCU (or 4) that I won't apply till the ship is in game, and I'll use something that is in game in the meantime. Thanks for saying what I was thinking on the pipeline "backlog"
@Loud Guns Yeah, that's what I ended up doing sadly. Was really hoping for a CCU option to a complete setup (or at least a medical setup). My "galaxy" will probably live for the foreseeable future as a torpedo boat. They were quite strategic in how they released a very expensive ship that I couldn't get massive savings on with my CCU-FU. As a consequence I'll probably only store credit the medical module and buy cargo/refining in game.
Depending on how much it is i might get a ccu for it and keep my carrack for now. If i dont like the galaxy or if it takes too long i can still melt the ccu and keep my carrack
Yeah it really is crazy that they haven't gotten modules online yet. I picked up a CCU for the base because it came in a hell of a lot cheaper than expected and I had the store credit just sitting there.
@@brandonr2188 yeah I agree on the bigger. It is supposed to be the mainstay repair ship and a lot of ships have gotten a lot bigger so it'll need to do them same and most likely a bit more than others. I saw someone saying 650 which would be rather nice.
Your "Why I'm not mad about concepts" segment here is exactly, exactly how I feel, and how I wish the loud minority felt. Your content never ceases to be enjoyable to me.
I’ve been loving your content recently, especially as you’re a fellow miner. But this video convinced me you’re my favorite SC creator. Hope to see more amazing content :)
I'll buy it, but with Instore Credit, then dump it into buyback for about 6+ years...along with the other forgotten concepts. No one really thinks much about the concepts beyond the sales pitch. Wouldn't dream of paying up front for a concept car that'll be 5+ years in the making...crazy, but as i said, it costs me nothing.
I agree with you. This game is not just a ship simulation game. Why we play this game is because of persistance universe that we live in it. Ships are toys we play or tools to interact with the universe.
Owner of both the Apollo and the Carrack. Picked up a $5 CCU, the concierge paint, and a module, all on store credit. But I'm not convinced that opening the wallet will get me anything more than a second carrack I can't name. If that changes, I'll at least have the low price locked in.
remember a number of Ships are ready but waiting for game play. Javelin, LEGIONNAIRE , MERCHANTMAN, HULL B, HULL C, HULL D, VULTURE, F8 Lighting and the Idris. There may even be more that are done or nearly done but are being held back for reasons.
It’s a fair point, but I guess I can only answer for myself. Personally having done the starer ship start and grind a good few times, and with a fairly busy life outside of games I do like having a couple of more expensive ships ready for me. If I didn’t have to work for a living I’d probably do a drake cutter start - after the game comes out for a few months the playing field will level off a bit. People who bought ships for cash may still be a bit ahead of those who grinded for them because they could do 12 hours a day (or more those are rookie numbers 😂). But ultimately they will be behind them in terms of skill. More holistically (and totally personally) I want to fund the project, and parting with a bit of my money to get it made benefits everyone who enjoys or will enjoy SC.
My general take is to only buy some of the larger ships you love but are too expensive to want to grind for every single patch wipe. For me, that’s been things like the Carrack and Redeemer, but I enjoy the grind for my Cutty Black, Connie and MOLE (when mining isn’t totally nerfed).. and alas my poor Caterpillar sits gathering dust while cargo remains so nerfed too…
Answer to "why arent more ships modular" ( 2:20 ) is simple: money. An entire ship can be sold for more real money, compared to just a module for a chassis.
we have one "preview" of modularity, in game, kinda, for lower tier modules anyway. the Starfarer tanks can already be swapped out. i would hope it remains this easy and you dont have to wait an installation cycle. once people remain in space for longer periods of time, some behaviors may change. they may kit it out before setting off into space, only going to port and changing modules when the situation calls for it
So the reason I'm picking one up today is that because modularity is till probably a long way off... This gives you a Carrack as a loaner until then, and I want to fly a Carrack and I've got the 380 easy in store credits, but I'm not up to spending 600 on one ship yet. Same reason the Retaliator Base is a good deal rn, $150 bucks for a loaner bomber *and* a gladiator for the low low price of 150, and since it's another modular ship who knows when they're gonna get that sorted. I'm using the prices for these to fly ships that are flyable now without paying the full price of owning one and that's a pretty solid deal for me.
I do love the minor customisation that is planned - things like adding coffee machines etc. But I do think CIG probably want to maintain overall control over things that effect the stats so the game can stay balanced.
I LOVE StarCitizen. But I have to admit, it is hard to get excited about certain mechanics that we don't have yet. Modular ships like the Retaliator and Catapillar have been in game for a while, and there is not enough known at this point to make a well informed decision. I wanted to get hyped about salvage with the reclaimer, but had a hard time since it took a while to get any of it in game. Still excited to see what is to come but can't hop on the hype train with some things preemptively anymore.
Originally I was thinking that all ships should be (at least somewhat) modular, but the more I've thought about it the more I like what CIG is doing. Make a couple of special ships modular, and then for most of the other ships you can have a couple of different variants to choose from. If every ship were modular, then in some sense you'd only need one small, one medium, and one large ship from each manufacturer plus a couple of capital ships. I'd much rather have a whole bunch of different ships and a whole bunch of variants to choose from.
Hi. Great video, as ever! Totally agree. I guess what upsets me about new concept ships is that they detract from the older ones such as the Orion, Endeavour, Polaris, etc. We hear no word from CIG on these and so seeing brand spanking newer models just rubs salt into these wounds. The other question I have is; are they publishing these new concepts when they know they will not be ever developed? I’m starting to wonder.
The reason i doubt i will get it is even being modular, it isn't really able to do anything on its own. It needs a ship to bring patients in, or ore, or cargo. And it can only carry a pisces, so its not a self contained system and it doesn't bridge any gaps either. So you need 5 friends.....plus 10 more for support. Why not get something else at that point like a carrack or odyssey I do really like the look and the rear hangar though
Wait for the MPUV mining variant and now you have a self-contained mining op with the refinery module. Granted, there's still not much for the other 3-4 players on board to do.
Yeah I think we need to see a lot more detail on it. I’ve noticed a lot of people doing read across between Galaxy -> Carrack but I think it could be apples & oranges. The carrack is a high end exploration ship, but I see the galaxy as a high end operation support vessel.
"wouldn't it be better buy just the one QT drive rather than three for the different variants". So... you have to actually swap the modules. You have to go to where the module is and then some time/energy/money(?) goes into swapping parts. The QT drive is also swappable. Someone with three variants could go to where the variant they want is and spend some time/energy/money(?) to swap the QT drive. There isn't really a savings there. If SC ends up a universe where many ships don't get regularly blown up; there's some advantage in not having to move all your items from one ship to another; but otherwise every advantage of a modular ship over a variant with the same configuration is monetary; and those values are entirely assigned by CIG.
I think they should just avoid the gold standard and just get ships in game with all features working. No point of getting ships to “gold standard” when they will have to do it over and over again.
I was looking and then thought I'd upgrade from my connie, but the more I looked, the more I decided, nope. Especially, since the upgrade path doesn't even include a module.
I'm guessing it will as a base only go a bit higher. CIG seem to be basing the loaner more off the master set with all the modules than off the base. Tbf though I did this with my Endeavor and just went for the base - I'd imagine mods themselves will be quite affordable in game.
don't expect to use the galaxy myself, but picked up a ccu to it for 5 store credit that i had lying around. maybe it will surprise me as it gets developed :)
Galaxy is an important support vessel for an org fleet. It can fulfill any number of needed roles… That being said, I don’t want to own another support vessel. I do love the design!
The modularity was presented even in the first RSI Aurora commercials. CIG wasnt able to make it reality during 10 years. They like the sweet sweet $ profit from selling variants...
Personally, having a loaner carrack was ironically one of the biggest appeals to me. But while having the carrack is nice, the modules being extra money is extra lame and the shields being only one s3 worries me, especially being such a massive target. I think I'll be turning it into something else at some point sadly.
Interesting and thoughtful video as usual. This is the only ship to excite me this IAE so may not be able to resist depending on the price point and loaner. Having finally worked my way up from my Aurora starter to Carrack I'd have to melt (or upgrade! really hoping the Galaxy's not going to be that expensive) the latter to afford the Galaxy. Let's see latter today!
I’m going to guess at $550 - in 2 hours we’ll see! 😂 As ever you do you when it comes to your money. Part of the reason I’m hesitant on modularity is I have one ship in my hangar already that is entirely dependent on it so this would be doubling down.
Im holding myself back ... I can not see this in game for 4 years lol they said a year ago that the Endeavor was going to be hard, so until that is in the PU then Im going to sit on the side lines to watch and wait. But that refinery mod with your friends on prospectors.......... But how much can it refine ? and how much can it store because if can store a lot and refine then Im selling the expanse lol
Its a cool ship, but i have a Perseus and Carrack. As much as i love the look and idea of this ship, it feels limited. Im going to do a 50 dollar upgrade from my Cat, but lets see if I decide to upgrade it
The Galaxy will be a good-looking loot pinata. It has really bad firing arcs with the rear exposed completely and the stop sides very weak. Straight on it will deal some pain. Now if the ship has good armor that will make up for its weak shields (for its size). Hopefully it will be agile for its size but even if it is fighters will shred this ship.
if it’s sub 400 and you get a Carrack loaner, you could cheese your way to the carrack and then probably CCU up to BMM or the odyssey while riding the price hikes. Though that’s a lot of money as is and so your money, your decision. I like your reasoning and i’ll reference your video as to why i didn’t get Galaxy instead of my bank balance.
The problem is (may be) that a funding model based on selling ships (together with community pressure to push them through the pipeline and release them) can detract resources from the development of core systems. Obviously SC is much more complicated than LoL... I get that (enormous) funding is required. But if I were them I'd invest a bit more in base building and procedural planets/moons/asteroids and start selling land claims instead ASAP. It scales much better than new ships.
If I was part of cig I would focus on getting the ships that have been on the waiting list longest (Polaris for example) out and ready rather than tiny little ships every update
The problem with working on big stuff like the Polaris is that the servers just aren't capable of handling big ships. Some of those capital ships in the pipeline would take up half of the server with just crew alone. If server meshing was done and we had a unified server that could handle hundreds of players at a time, then it would make sense to put those big ships through the pipeline. Not to mention that the primary gameplay loops for some of those ships aren't even done yet. Do you want another Reclaimer situation where a ship is flyable but completely useless for years because its gameplay loop hasn't been developed yet? Those smaller ships serve several purposes, one of which is to be something that CIG can quickly put out to test gameplay loops before dedicating manpower to their bigger versions.
One day modularity will become a thing in the game. We're only going to have to wait. I'm disinclined to pick up ships with really big $prices. Not that I could not easily purchase any of them, but I did not get to a point where those prices are just pocket lint for me by being quick to spend money impulsively. But I'm happy to play the game for the fun of it and the buy them with UEC I pick up on the way. They give me a progression path to play in-game.
tbh i bought the complete pack just because : Dirt cheap and going to get more expesive, not to mention i melted my carrack to get it annnd it gave it back as a loaner so win win i guess.
I actually think most people complaining are not against straight to flyable. They are against concepts that are to be made ‘in the future’ while we already have so many ships with that label some for almost 10 years.
It's fair, but I guess I never personally (all opinions are valid and this is just mine) felt like I received any form of tacit promise that my ship would be x in line.
Modularity will work, but most likely using mobiglass, and I can bet they figured out how to make the rooms unattachable much like cargo. However, I doubt we will see it any time soon, and that is my gripe with CIG. Everything they do has to eventually go through UI and gameplay to make it player facing. All the ships that are currently in the game that will be modular 2 examples, Carrack, and Caterpillar will have to be reworked. For they explained that every ship is baked, and the first method of development meant that modularity would mean making another version and spawning between multiple versions. Not very efficient right? So they went for modular rooms, so they can be attached and removed. This will be the same tech most likely to do the placement of slaved ships.
An excellent video, next to the buy button there should be big red disclaimer: Buyer be aware it can take 10+years to deliver this game into game so no one can complain or say it's a sc-am, remember there are people waiting for their ship for 7years already, so some of us as old backers are just laughing at it cause we know it ain't gonna happen anytime soon especially cause of modularity... thanks to your video new players can at least get an idea on how it works in this game, hype the sale and push it back for years so thanks for effort
Modularity is clearly another way for RSI to take your money in offering the latest module for the latest game loop... I bought the Galaxy just because they loan you a Carrack until the Galaxy is done (1-5 years from now?!). When Teir 3 med beds start appearing in other ships I'll melt it.
Modularity! Remember a couple years ago when they had a lot of talk about server blades? And all the stuff you would be able to automate in your ship? Has anybody heard of server blades lately? And to my ignorant ass that sounds easier to implement than ship modularity. 😉
I actually think there was a dev response not too long ago (like the last couple of weeks). It was effectively to the extent that AI will purposefully not get pushed so that multi-crew on ships gets tested thoroughly.
Beautiful ship. Doesn't have any ugly "hangar-snaggers" like the Corsair, lol. Shame it will take so long to be functional. I'm starting to think that many of the more spend-y backers do want to see the game progress, but are more hooked on the spending part. I feel the same way about these capital-class ships as I do about big diamonds and Rolex watches. Right now, their primary function is to be medals for how much cash you can throw down. This in itself is a high, and it's addictive. It's their money, but so many people are coupling it with thoughts like "when such-n-such is in game, this will be so cool". What I've seen of this game's history, current state, and projected progress tells me it will be years before even a few of these dreamed-about features are a thing, let alone stable or balanced. That could take years longer. I'd like to see the game be what was meant to be, but I don't want to throw cash at it if it's going to stay in development hell for longer than my remaining lifespan, or suffer an unrecoverable catastrophe (legal or otherwise), or just plain fizzle. I'd like to play these ships, systems and loops. Get my hands dirty in them, not just dream about them. I just feel down thinking they'll still be "someday" for many more years.
I have a feeling that finishing the Polaris is going to do most of the work for finishing the Galaxy and Perseus. They all have a similar design layout and style that can be recycled.
Totally disagree with that last statement of the smartest folks in the room are the ones with a single starter ship in their hangar and nothing more..... If we were all like that, do you think we'd be further along or further back in progress and tech...? So no, nothing against the minimal backer, people who back more aren't foolish. And I'm sure that's not what you were getting at as you are a concierge backer yourself I assume, it's just kinda how it came off. Never will I ever sway anyone away from backing. Today in SC, that seems to be the common thing to do as if supporting something you love is..... bad.
Text is a terrible medium for conveying tone so if anything I say comes across as rude please give me the benefit of the doubt as offending isn’t my intention. I answered a kinda opposite comment earlier in this list where a guy said I was asking the wrong q - he was going for why does anyone have anything more than a starter. The tldr version of part of my response on my own behalf was that I do genuinely enjoy supporting the project with a bit of my bank account so it gets made. Particularly in my situation where making content provides a bonus second income. But I always want to be a voice that makes it very clear that you don’t have to keep up with others and can enjoy all the game has to offer without spending more than on a starter ship. There are (I’m sure you’ve met them) lots of people in this community who brag about what they’ve spent, and post pictures of their massive expensive ships to show off about how rich they are. That undoubtedly leads others to feel insecure and like they have to spend more even though they might not necessarily be able to afford to. I’ve seen too many friends (for other reasons) get into a dark hole of debt and it’s not pretty.
That’s fair, definitely cool to get a carrack for now! Tbh I just finished making a fleet theory crafting episode last night and on paper I think the Galaxy’s combo of modules is really interesting. I just personally need to see modularity come in (already got a forever endeavor looking at me from the old hangar 😂).
Backer since 2013 nearly 2.5k sunk into this.. I now check in every couple of years.. TBH I am so over the broken promises, hyped sales pitch then backflippin on all of it.. waiting YEARS for ships to feature creep, nerf bats and new meta's all to get your $$$. Most of my ships are big Industrial "bread and butter" earners except for the Carrack and Hammerhead from memory.. The Galaxy looks great but I can't see any want or need for it personally. Definitely a ship that I could quickly earn in game. I can wait... but people are dying they've been waiting so long. A couple more years? I'll be too old to care.
@@bncthiccboi7552 Did you read what I wrote? Try it again, "Backer since 2013".. Promises were made.. and there is still no game, no S42.. Just a shonky business model and forever development as the goal posts get moved again and yet again. It's like an abusive relationship, you know it's fucked but it's hard to leave.. some people love that shit.. you one of them?
This is the vanity / larger backer play, whereas the Corsair and Cutter / C8R were for the plebs. CIG know what they’re doing to maximise revenue extraction from the community, you have to give them credit. The Galaxy, like the Corsair, is a hard pass from me. I’m still sitting waiting on the BMM and Genesis to be delivered to my hangar, so they don’t get any more concept pledges from me until at least one is delivered.
The backlog wouldn't be so bad if CIG was putting out quality ships once or twice a month. Unfortunately, that's not the case. Great analysis once again, Loud.
I did that tbf because it’s good ccu gaming, but the title “why I only bought a $5 ccu to a galaxy” isn’t as catchy 😂 My main point was expressing my feelings regarding the release of another modular concept without accompanying progress on modularity.
@@LoudGuns I understand your concerns, which are valid. I think CIG has been going after low hanging fruit, like what can we get through the pipeline the quickest, especially unannounced ships, while they work out the technicalities of new game mechanics, like ship mounted tractor beams, which should be coming this year. Modularity is a tough nut, but I think it will happen. Unfortunately, the various modular ships that have been promised do it in different ways, so bringing that feature to flight-ready will likely be a unique problem, taking much more time. I still hold out hope for the Endeavor. 🙂
Or they can just add 5 ships all modular, to save them time. So they dont have to make all these ships without modules. i think modular ships are bad IMO.
Too much conformity would indeed be an issue - I guess my problem is with things like avengers. I feel a half decent mechanic could switch out those parts with 2022 skills 😆
@@LoudGuns I agree with you, they need to start finishing ships that ppl been waiting for for years, Not start new projects just to milk the whale-cows. They could cut down on alot of redundant ships. Let people work for stuff... Like Reclaimer / vulture, ships that does same thing, but different size. With haulers i see a point having different sizes but it has to be some sort of limit to it.
I'm sick of people dunking on SQ42 as being a distraction. It was the core promise back during the kickstarter. The PU was a stretch goal, but it has metastasized over the project. A lot of PU fanbois have come to the party in more recent years. Those of us who have been in from the beginning have been waiting a decade already for Chris to fulfill his original promise, and it feels like we'll be lucky if we get delivery before the end of another decade.
I have nothing against hyping a concept, I just feel it's disingenuous to continue selling hulls based around a concept that has yet to be delivered on at all. As you said, they should finish what's on their plate. As far as financing CIG has at this point made nearly $500million usd, an average of $50 million usd annually over the games 10 years of development, its hard to believe that financing has been an obstacle and it's hard to stomach when cig willingly decided to split development between sc and sq42. In my mind the obstacles are based in priorities and follow through.
I think its going to be hard for me to pass on this one. It really depends on the price point which we will find out in a few hours. The look for me is top notch, so the rule of cool may convince me to pick this up.
As ever I will never tell anyone what to do with their money, and honestly if it’s a rule of cool driven decision those tend to be the best ones. You’ll probably love the ship regardless of other stuff.
Very nice video & theory about this ship. The question is, do we really need this ship? The Odyssey, the Carrack, the Endeavor, etc. already offer all these possibilities. Of course the looks of the Galaxy are very cool. But most players look for an all-in-one ship. Not everyone has a group to play together, most players are solo. It's nice to see that there are many choices between the different brands of ships, but that also makes it very difficult to choose the right ship. You can't buy them all...I also think the developers can sell more ships if you can actually play with them after announced. People are getting tired of the concept ships and want more progress of the game and fly their ships that are still under development.
I'm not sure personally that this ship is really a competitor to the Odyssey or Carrack (even though they've gone Carrack loaner). The Carrack and Ody are both high end exploration ships, whereas this strikes me more as a high end support ship.
I'd happily buy a Galaxy if it didn't require a crew. once we have AI blades, I'm likely to spend more on Star Citizen. I still prefer ED ship design, even if I prefer SC gameplay.
With star citizen I give them credit for what they have achieved to this point trying to be a real version of EvE and that game is dated now. ( I might get hit with that reference) but still for the concepts I payed more than I would normally because its playable but didn't go for these big guys as its not worth it at the moment who know infuture.
2014 I bought a avengers titan starter. Upgraded to a cutty. Now I have a 600i vulture and C1. I was skeptical about this game, I still am, but CIG have a way of dragging you back in after large chunks of time away. I mean I have a house and 2 kids now, I can't sit at my computer for 8 hours a day. I spent that money thinking I'd be playing the game in a couple of years, IM IN MY 30s ffs. I joke about my 2 boys who are both less than 3 inheriting my CIG account and it just hitting beta. It's probably true too. We bought this game for the next generation, who won't play it because it will be so out of date.
Yeah minus the kids part we’re in the same boat - I backed SC when I was a single early 20 something living in a shared house with the lads. Now I’m in my 30’s with a wife, apartment and puppy 😂
John Crewe ssid "12 to 18 months". CIG time. Now in real time that is probably more like 2 to 3 Years, maybe more ! Just have a look at CIG and their previous timelines, if you think I Jest 🤣👍
they made a worse carrack. no med bay in the main section means you lose out that massive feature withought buying it for extra. hard pass. it sucks badly.
I'm not convinced (I'll reserve judgement until later) that it's really a Carrack competitor. None of it's stuff really ties in with the Carrack's exploration focus - the Galaxy strikes me much more as a high level support ship.
As an old backer, thanks for making this. Still waiting. Still mad they are making SQ42. Still mad they keep churning out new concepts instead of our old ships.
@@CapnSnackbeard tbf that’s not what I’m saying though. I do have sympathy for anyone who backed early for a ship (sub-capital) that isn’t out. But I think those of us who backed a bit later for things like the BMM or endeavor (2 or mine) did so with eyes open. At least I did I guess. My issue is first and foremost the lack of detail on modularity.
If you give the final CitizenCon segment with Chris Roberts a good watch, you'll come out of it with MUCH more tolerance about SQ42 being in parallel development. That too, is not something anyone should be mad about. It's helping SC in ways that most don't understand, and giving us a massive new game and huge attention to SC at the same time.
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Big apology - Saturday brain and a dog chewing my chair while editing made me forget to equalise the intro volume. Sorry if I blew out your ear drums!
It's ok my dog chewed my $400 headphones so no damage on TV speakers lol
Lol
Saw the warning and switched to speakers 😂
I mean... At least your channel is well named for having volume issues 😝
Edit: Thanks for the warning btw. Volume was a little off, but I've definitely heard worse... Today. You're doing great 🙂👍
Maybe for the getting organized series, you could do a pirate fleet? Pirating is going to be more viable in 3.18 so there will also be more interest towards all things pirate
The most thoughtful Star Citizen content creator out there. Videos are always meticulously organized and chaptered, with content that cuts through the positive/negative hype frenzies with some interesting insights. I'm admittedly biased, because you were the one that "taught a man to fish" regarding solo-Mole quant mining, unlocking complete financial security in the game for me. But regardless, when I want some no-risk, always-worth-the-time SC content, this is where I head. Keep up the good work. 🍻
And for my SC money, I want us all to be much more focused on the gameplay mechanics and game loops, rather than the outstanding ships that depend on them. What's a Crucible without repair? A Genesis without passenger transport? A Perseus without targets worthy of the firepower? A Hull-C/D/E without the Quantum / dynamic economy system to drive such commodity volumes? Build the mechanics and the ships will come.
Thanks for your calm and rational take on the situation. Alot of other content creators are getting pretty upset. I'll probably grab this ship with game credit then melt it when I get bored of the loaner carrack
Certainly a sensible option if you've got it available anyway. It's a cheap way to have a carrack right now.
I really appreciate the balanced views. Great points all around. Having said that, I will likely be dropping cash today, but only on a warbond CCU (or 4) that I won't apply till the ship is in game, and I'll use something that is in game in the meantime.
Thanks for saying what I was thinking on the pipeline "backlog"
You can grab a $5 Valk - Galaxy CCU with store credit which is probably the best option.
@Loud Guns Yeah, that's what I ended up doing sadly. Was really hoping for a CCU option to a complete setup (or at least a medical setup). My "galaxy" will probably live for the foreseeable future as a torpedo boat.
They were quite strategic in how they released a very expensive ship that I couldn't get massive savings on with my CCU-FU. As a consequence I'll probably only store credit the medical module and buy cargo/refining in game.
Depending on how much it is i might get a ccu for it and keep my carrack for now. If i dont like the galaxy or if it takes too long i can still melt the ccu and keep my carrack
I mean…I may get a ccu 😂
Yeah it really is crazy that they haven't gotten modules online yet. I picked up a CCU for the base because it came in a hell of a lot cheaper than expected and I had the store credit just sitting there.
It will go up in price for sure, at least $450 in the next two years
@@brandonr2188 yeah easily. How close are you following any ideas on the Crucible will end up at, I picked one of those up as well?
@@Mike5Brown i think the crucible is going to get bigger, value will definitely go up im not sure how much though
@@brandonr2188 yeah I agree on the bigger. It is supposed to be the mainstay repair ship and a lot of ships have gotten a lot bigger so it'll need to do them same and most likely a bit more than others. I saw someone saying 650 which would be rather nice.
Loud Guns is a credit to the SC community 🙌
As are you James 👏 👏 👏
This is exactly the sort of take I expected from you, and I appreciate your thoughts. 🙂
Your "Why I'm not mad about concepts" segment here is exactly, exactly how I feel, and how I wish the loud minority felt.
Your content never ceases to be enjoyable to me.
Cheers Brad - I think maybe because I come from the moba scene I just have a slightly different view to others.
+1 this :)
Great video! I agree with you fully.
👍 thanks mate, I feel it’s a balanced view!
Flipping awesome video. Great perspective. Thank you!
Cheers mate - thanks for that!
I’ve been loving your content recently, especially as you’re a fellow miner. But this video convinced me you’re my favorite SC creator. Hope to see more amazing content :)
I thought that was going to be a "but this video was awful" :D Thanks mate!
@@LoudGuns they had in the first half, not gonna lie
Great video, well said and I agree completely. Ear drums intact!
I'll buy it, but with Instore Credit, then dump it into buyback for about 6+ years...along with the other forgotten concepts. No one really thinks much about the concepts beyond the sales pitch. Wouldn't dream of paying up front for a concept car that'll be 5+ years in the making...crazy, but as i said, it costs me nothing.
Yeah lots of crazy people will, just buy cheap CCU.
Cracking video and certainly some good points made!
Thank you very much!
I agree with you. This game is not just a ship simulation game. Why we play this game is because of persistance universe that we live in it. Ships are toys we play or tools to interact with the universe.
👍 I think the issue is that ships are so much of the “right now” content that people forget they’re just tools.
Owner of both the Apollo and the Carrack. Picked up a $5 CCU, the concierge paint, and a module, all on store credit. But I'm not convinced that opening the wallet will get me anything more than a second carrack I can't name. If that changes, I'll at least have the low price locked in.
remember a number of Ships are ready but waiting for game play. Javelin, LEGIONNAIRE , MERCHANTMAN, HULL B, HULL C, HULL D, VULTURE, F8 Lighting and the Idris. There may even be more that are done or nearly done but are being held back for reasons.
There is a far more obvious question, whats the point in playing SC if you straight up buy all the ships with rl money?
The point is mostly that it’s fun
It’s a fair point, but I guess I can only answer for myself. Personally having done the starer ship start and grind a good few times, and with a fairly busy life outside of games I do like having a couple of more expensive ships ready for me. If I didn’t have to work for a living I’d probably do a drake cutter start - after the game comes out for a few months the playing field will level off a bit. People who bought ships for cash may still be a bit ahead of those who grinded for them because they could do 12 hours a day (or more those are rookie numbers 😂). But ultimately they will be behind them in terms of skill.
More holistically (and totally personally) I want to fund the project, and parting with a bit of my money to get it made benefits everyone who enjoys or will enjoy SC.
My general take is to only buy some of the larger ships you love but are too expensive to want to grind for every single patch wipe. For me, that’s been things like the Carrack and Redeemer, but I enjoy the grind for my Cutty Black, Connie and MOLE (when mining isn’t totally nerfed).. and alas my poor Caterpillar sits gathering dust while cargo remains so nerfed too…
Answer to "why arent more ships modular" ( 2:20 ) is simple:
money.
An entire ship can be sold for more real money, compared to just a module for a chassis.
we have one "preview" of modularity, in game, kinda, for lower tier modules anyway. the Starfarer tanks can already be swapped out. i would hope it remains this easy and you dont have to wait an installation cycle. once people remain in space for longer periods of time, some behaviors may change. they may kit it out before setting off into space, only going to port and changing modules when the situation calls for it
So the reason I'm picking one up today is that because modularity is till probably a long way off... This gives you a Carrack as a loaner until then, and I want to fly a Carrack and I've got the 380 easy in store credits, but I'm not up to spending 600 on one ship yet. Same reason the Retaliator Base is a good deal rn, $150 bucks for a loaner bomber *and* a gladiator for the low low price of 150, and since it's another modular ship who knows when they're gonna get that sorted. I'm using the prices for these to fly ships that are flyable now without paying the full price of owning one and that's a pretty solid deal for me.
It would be nice for a bigger focus for custimisation to be on ships and to some degree ground stuff
I do love the minor customisation that is planned - things like adding coffee machines etc. But I do think CIG probably want to maintain overall control over things that effect the stats so the game can stay balanced.
I LOVE StarCitizen. But I have to admit, it is hard to get excited about certain mechanics that we don't have yet. Modular ships like the Retaliator and Catapillar have been in game for a while, and there is not enough known at this point to make a well informed decision. I wanted to get hyped about salvage with the reclaimer, but had a hard time since it took a while to get any of it in game. Still excited to see what is to come but can't hop on the hype train with some things preemptively anymore.
Originally I was thinking that all ships should be (at least somewhat) modular, but the more I've thought about it the more I like what CIG is doing.
Make a couple of special ships modular, and then for most of the other ships you can have a couple of different variants to choose from.
If every ship were modular, then in some sense you'd only need one small, one medium, and one large ship from each manufacturer plus a couple of capital ships.
I'd much rather have a whole bunch of different ships and a whole bunch of variants to choose from.
Hi. Great video, as ever! Totally agree. I guess what upsets me about new concept ships is that they detract from the older ones such as the Orion, Endeavour, Polaris, etc. We hear no word from CIG on these and so seeing brand spanking newer models just rubs salt into these wounds. The other question I have is; are they publishing these new concepts when they know they will not be ever developed? I’m starting to wonder.
The reason i doubt i will get it is even being modular, it isn't really able to do anything on its own. It needs a ship to bring patients in, or ore, or cargo. And it can only carry a pisces, so its not a self contained system and it doesn't bridge any gaps either. So you need 5 friends.....plus 10 more for support. Why not get something else at that point like a carrack or odyssey
I do really like the look and the rear hangar though
🎯
Wait for the MPUV mining variant and now you have a self-contained mining op with the refinery module. Granted, there's still not much for the other 3-4 players on board to do.
@@woogle463 i'd rather a prospector in an odyssey
Yeah I think we need to see a lot more detail on it. I’ve noticed a lot of people doing read across between Galaxy -> Carrack but I think it could be apples & oranges.
The carrack is a high end exploration ship, but I see the galaxy as a high end operation support vessel.
"wouldn't it be better buy just the one QT drive rather than three for the different variants".
So... you have to actually swap the modules. You have to go to where the module is and then some time/energy/money(?) goes into swapping parts.
The QT drive is also swappable. Someone with three variants could go to where the variant they want is and spend some time/energy/money(?) to swap the QT drive.
There isn't really a savings there.
If SC ends up a universe where many ships don't get regularly blown up; there's some advantage in not having to move all your items from one ship to another; but otherwise every advantage of a modular ship over a variant with the same configuration is monetary; and those values are entirely assigned by CIG.
As a general rule of thumb, if the loaner is worth more than the ship (Carrack in this case), you won't be flying it for at least a couple years.
I really just want all the older ships brought to gold standard. I think new ships are fine as long as the older ones are getting some love.
I think they should just avoid the gold standard and just get ships in game with all features working. No point of getting ships to “gold standard” when they will have to do it over and over again.
I was looking and then thought I'd upgrade from my connie, but the more I looked, the more I decided, nope. Especially, since the upgrade path doesn't even include a module.
Yeah the modules (across the board) seem a bit on the expensive side. I'd imagine they'll end up being rather affordable in game.
Why I bought one... It was $58 to upgrade my Redeemer to one. I can buy a Redeemer in game for
I'm guessing it will as a base only go a bit higher. CIG seem to be basing the loaner more off the master set with all the modules than off the base. Tbf though I did this with my Endeavor and just went for the base - I'd imagine mods themselves will be quite affordable in game.
@@LoudGuns like paint skins, I don't see much reason to buy them _now_ for a concept ship
don't expect to use the galaxy myself, but picked up a ccu to it for 5 store credit that i had lying around. maybe it will surprise me as it gets developed :)
Will the Galaxy be available for pledge, again at Invictus 2953, you think?
Yeah I reckon they’ll argue it’s some form of military support ship in its medical capacity and put it up for sale
Galaxy is an important support vessel for an org fleet. It can fulfill any number of needed roles… That being said, I don’t want to own another support vessel.
I do love the design!
The modularity was presented even in the first RSI Aurora commercials. CIG wasnt able to make it reality during 10 years. They like the sweet sweet $ profit from selling variants...
This isn't a multirole ship as far as i can see, its more single role depending on what module you have installed.
Personally, having a loaner carrack was ironically one of the biggest appeals to me. But while having the carrack is nice, the modules being extra money is extra lame and the shields being only one s3 worries me, especially being such a massive target. I think I'll be turning it into something else at some point sadly.
Interesting and thoughtful video as usual. This is the only ship to excite me this IAE so may not be able to resist depending on the price point and loaner. Having finally worked my way up from my Aurora starter to Carrack I'd have to melt (or upgrade! really hoping the Galaxy's not going to be that expensive) the latter to afford the Galaxy. Let's see latter today!
I’m going to guess at $550 - in 2 hours we’ll see! 😂
As ever you do you when it comes to your money. Part of the reason I’m hesitant on modularity is I have one ship in my hangar already that is entirely dependent on it so this would be doubling down.
@@LoudGuns Came in much cheaper than anticipated, sub 400 GBP, and the loaner is a Carrack!
Im holding myself back ... I can not see this in game for 4 years lol they said a year ago that the Endeavor was going to be hard, so until that is in the PU then Im going to sit on the side lines to watch and wait.
But that refinery mod with your friends on prospectors.......... But how much can it refine ? and how much can it store because if can store a lot and refine then Im selling the expanse lol
Its a cool ship, but i have a Perseus and Carrack. As much as i love the look and idea of this ship, it feels limited. Im going to do a 50 dollar upgrade from my Cat, but lets see if I decide to upgrade it
The Galaxy will be a good-looking loot pinata. It has really bad firing arcs with the rear exposed completely and the stop sides very weak. Straight on it will deal some pain. Now if the ship has good armor that will make up for its weak shields (for its size). Hopefully it will be agile for its size but even if it is fighters will shred this ship.
Schadenfreude was pronounced well enough and your criticism is spot on!
if it’s sub 400 and you get a Carrack loaner, you could cheese your way to the carrack and then probably CCU up to BMM or the odyssey while riding the price hikes. Though that’s a lot of money as is and so your money, your decision. I like your reasoning and i’ll reference your video as to why i didn’t get Galaxy instead of my bank balance.
Well I’m going to guess $550, but if I’m completely wrong maybe I’ll break anyway - maybe just a ccu though 😂
@@LoudGuns bought a $5 CCU from valkyrie just to secure her current price.
@@spaceman112211 This is smart, I have done likewise just for potential future price increases as much as anything.
The problem is (may be) that a funding model based on selling ships (together with community pressure to push them through the pipeline and release them) can detract resources from the development of core systems. Obviously SC is much more complicated than LoL... I get that (enormous) funding is required. But if I were them I'd invest a bit more in base building and procedural planets/moons/asteroids and start selling land claims instead ASAP. It scales much better than new ships.
If I was part of cig I would focus on getting the ships that have been on the waiting list longest (Polaris for example) out and ready rather than tiny little ships every update
The problem with working on big stuff like the Polaris is that the servers just aren't capable of handling big ships. Some of those capital ships in the pipeline would take up half of the server with just crew alone. If server meshing was done and we had a unified server that could handle hundreds of players at a time, then it would make sense to put those big ships through the pipeline. Not to mention that the primary gameplay loops for some of those ships aren't even done yet. Do you want another Reclaimer situation where a ship is flyable but completely useless for years because its gameplay loop hasn't been developed yet? Those smaller ships serve several purposes, one of which is to be something that CIG can quickly put out to test gameplay loops before dedicating manpower to their bigger versions.
@@OmegaZyion ahhh ok 👌
One day modularity will become a thing in the game. We're only going to have to wait. I'm disinclined to pick up ships with really big $prices. Not that I could not easily purchase any of them, but I did not get to a point where those prices are just pocket lint for me by being quick to spend money impulsively. But I'm happy to play the game for the fun of it and the buy them with UEC I pick up on the way. They give me a progression path to play in-game.
tbh i bought the complete pack just because : Dirt cheap and going to get more expesive, not to mention i melted my carrack to get it annnd it gave it back as a loaner so win win i guess.
this one will be a case of price dont think we will see it anytime soon but a ccu mostly but not the ship
A CCU is the ultimate not sure insurance I guess
I actually think most people complaining are not against straight to flyable. They are against concepts that are to be made ‘in the future’ while we already have so many ships with that label some for almost 10 years.
It's fair, but I guess I never personally (all opinions are valid and this is just mine) felt like I received any form of tacit promise that my ship would be x in line.
Your pronunciation was actually pretty good!
That's a relief!
Modularity will work, but most likely using mobiglass, and I can bet they figured out how to make the rooms unattachable much like cargo. However, I doubt we will see it any time soon, and that is my gripe with CIG. Everything they do has to eventually go through UI and gameplay to make it player facing. All the ships that are currently in the game that will be modular 2 examples, Carrack, and Caterpillar will have to be reworked. For they explained that every ship is baked, and the first method of development meant that modularity would mean making another version and spawning between multiple versions. Not very efficient right? So they went for modular rooms, so they can be attached and removed. This will be the same tech most likely to do the placement of slaved ships.
just buy a ccu from the anvil valk will only cost you $5. hold on to it until its fly able.
An excellent video, next to the buy button there should be big red disclaimer: Buyer be aware it can take 10+years to deliver this game into game so no one can complain or say it's a sc-am, remember there are people waiting for their ship for 7years already, so some of us as old backers are just laughing at it cause we know it ain't gonna happen anytime soon especially cause of modularity... thanks to your video new players can at least get an idea on how it works in this game, hype the sale and push it back for years so thanks for effort
Awesome video.
Cheers Freak!! 🙏
Modularity is clearly another way for RSI to take your money in offering the latest module for the latest game loop... I bought the Galaxy just because they loan you a Carrack until the Galaxy is done (1-5 years from now?!). When Teir 3 med beds start appearing in other ships I'll melt it.
Great vid! Also not bad on the pronunciation of "schadenfreude"
That's a relief! Thanks mate!
Just grab a couple of £5 ccu's and sit on them cost wont go up for you then when it gets released its price is bound to rise somewhat.
I can't recall who made the video, but buying a $5 upgrade from a Valkyrie to a Galaxy is a great bit of cheap speculation.
Modularity! Remember a couple years ago when they had a lot of talk about server blades? And all the stuff you would be able to automate in your ship? Has anybody heard of server blades lately? And to my ignorant ass that sounds easier to implement than ship modularity. 😉
I actually think there was a dev response not too long ago (like the last couple of weeks). It was effectively to the extent that AI will purposefully not get pushed so that multi-crew on ships gets tested thoroughly.
@@LoudGuns I'd call server blades a win if my MSR's turrets would just fire straight forward. 😆
Beautiful ship. Doesn't have any ugly "hangar-snaggers" like the Corsair, lol. Shame it will take so long to be functional. I'm starting to think that many of the more spend-y backers do want to see the game progress, but are more hooked on the spending part. I feel the same way about these capital-class ships as I do about big diamonds and Rolex watches. Right now, their primary function is to be medals for how much cash you can throw down. This in itself is a high, and it's addictive. It's their money, but so many people are coupling it with thoughts like "when such-n-such is in game, this will be so cool". What I've seen of this game's history, current state, and projected progress tells me it will be years before even a few of these dreamed-about features are a thing, let alone stable or balanced. That could take years longer. I'd like to see the game be what was meant to be, but I don't want to throw cash at it if it's going to stay in development hell for longer than my remaining lifespan, or suffer an unrecoverable catastrophe (legal or otherwise), or just plain fizzle. I'd like to play these ships, systems and loops. Get my hands dirty in them, not just dream about them. I just feel down thinking they'll still be "someday" for many more years.
Good take
Since this is from RSI, this ship will be in production much more faster then the others who are much older for when they release modularity.
I have a feeling that finishing the Polaris is going to do most of the work for finishing the Galaxy and Perseus. They all have a similar design layout and style that can be recycled.
Totally disagree with that last statement of the smartest folks in the room are the ones with a single starter ship in their hangar and nothing more..... If we were all like that, do you think we'd be further along or further back in progress and tech...? So no, nothing against the minimal backer, people who back more aren't foolish. And I'm sure that's not what you were getting at as you are a concierge backer yourself I assume, it's just kinda how it came off. Never will I ever sway anyone away from backing. Today in SC, that seems to be the common thing to do as if supporting something you love is..... bad.
Text is a terrible medium for conveying tone so if anything I say comes across as rude please give me the benefit of the doubt as offending isn’t my intention.
I answered a kinda opposite comment earlier in this list where a guy said I was asking the wrong q - he was going for why does anyone have anything more than a starter. The tldr version of part of my response on my own behalf was that I do genuinely enjoy supporting the project with a bit of my bank account so it gets made. Particularly in my situation where making content provides a bonus second income.
But I always want to be a voice that makes it very clear that you don’t have to keep up with others and can enjoy all the game has to offer without spending more than on a starter ship. There are (I’m sure you’ve met them) lots of people in this community who brag about what they’ve spent, and post pictures of their massive expensive ships to show off about how rich they are. That undoubtedly leads others to feel insecure and like they have to spend more even though they might not necessarily be able to afford to. I’ve seen too many friends (for other reasons) get into a dark hole of debt and it’s not pretty.
A retaliator would be a decent purchase, 150$ for 6 Size 9 torpedoes, 5 turrets, sleeps 6, with coming modularity.
the $150 base version provides a bomber loaner, but will come without any modules.
i only bought the galaxy due to the carrack being its rental, and i love the carrack but not its price tag
That’s fair, definitely cool to get a carrack for now! Tbh I just finished making a fleet theory crafting episode last night and on paper I think the Galaxy’s combo of modules is really interesting. I just personally need to see modularity come in (already got a forever endeavor looking at me from the old hangar 😂).
@@LoudGuns when it does I think it'll be for the 600i first or the tali. In which cases I'll be swapping out the pledge for one of them
But ... but ... but ... I WANT ONE!
Backer since 2013 nearly 2.5k sunk into this.. I now check in every couple of years.. TBH I am so over the broken promises, hyped sales pitch then backflippin on all of it.. waiting YEARS for ships to feature creep, nerf bats and new meta's all to get your $$$. Most of my ships are big Industrial "bread and butter" earners except for the Carrack and Hammerhead from memory.. The Galaxy looks great but I can't see any want or need for it personally. Definitely a ship that I could quickly earn in game. I can wait... but people are dying they've been waiting so long. A couple more years? I'll be too old to care.
Did you sink the 2.5k to back the game or you just wanted to buy ships?
@@bncthiccboi7552 Did you read what I wrote? Try it again, "Backer since 2013".. Promises were made.. and there is still no game, no S42.. Just a shonky business model and forever development as the goal posts get moved again and yet again. It's like an abusive relationship, you know it's fucked but it's hard to leave.. some people love that shit.. you one of them?
@@kenoath007 Read it again? yeah i read it just cause u started in 2013 doesnt man you have to put in 2.5k lol.
If you dont own a carrack but want one buy a galaxy and you get the carrack as a loaner at half the price of a carrack
Pronunciation of "Schadenfreude" wasn't that bad actually. :)
This is the vanity / larger backer play, whereas the Corsair and Cutter / C8R were for the plebs. CIG know what they’re doing to maximise revenue extraction from the community, you have to give them credit. The Galaxy, like the Corsair, is a hard pass from me. I’m still sitting waiting on the BMM and Genesis to be delivered to my hangar, so they don’t get any more concept pledges from me until at least one is delivered.
I'd love to see a cargo variant of the Nautilus. I'm not going to hold my breath, though.
Tbf it's not a million miles away from what the Galaxy is right now.
The backlog wouldn't be so bad if CIG was putting out quality ships once or twice a month. Unfortunately, that's not the case. Great analysis once again, Loud.
Cheers mate. I think long term we'll see them ramp it up when it makes sense to.
I'm passing on every single new concept until they finish the old ones
Voting with your feet (or more specifically your wallet in this case) is often the most effective way to do so.
You could have reserved yourself a RSI Galaxy as a $5 upgrade from the Valkyrie. That would not tie up a lot of cash, and could always be melted.
I did that tbf because it’s good ccu gaming, but the title “why I only bought a $5 ccu to a galaxy” isn’t as catchy 😂 My main point was expressing my feelings regarding the release of another modular concept without accompanying progress on modularity.
@@LoudGuns I understand your concerns, which are valid. I think CIG has been going after low hanging fruit, like what can we get through the pipeline the quickest, especially unannounced ships, while they work out the technicalities of new game mechanics, like ship mounted tractor beams, which should be coming this year. Modularity is a tough nut, but I think it will happen. Unfortunately, the various modular ships that have been promised do it in different ways, so bringing that feature to flight-ready will likely be a unique problem, taking much more time. I still hold out hope for the Endeavor. 🙂
I upgraded my Valkrie to a Galaxy.
Or they can just add 5 ships all modular, to save them time. So they dont have to make all these ships without modules. i think modular ships are bad IMO.
Too much conformity would indeed be an issue - I guess my problem is with things like avengers. I feel a half decent mechanic could switch out those parts with 2022 skills 😆
@@LoudGuns I agree with you, they need to start finishing ships that ppl been waiting for for years, Not start new projects just to milk the whale-cows. They could cut down on alot of redundant ships. Let people work for stuff... Like Reclaimer / vulture, ships that does same thing, but different size. With haulers i see a point having different sizes but it has to be some sort of limit to it.
I'm sick of people dunking on SQ42 as being a distraction. It was the core promise back during the kickstarter. The PU was a stretch goal, but it has metastasized over the project. A lot of PU fanbois have come to the party in more recent years. Those of us who have been in from the beginning have been waiting a decade already for Chris to fulfill his original promise, and it feels like we'll be lucky if we get delivery before the end of another decade.
I have nothing against hyping a concept, I just feel it's disingenuous to continue selling hulls based around a concept that has yet to be delivered on at all.
As you said, they should finish what's on their plate.
As far as financing CIG has at this point made nearly $500million usd, an average of $50 million usd annually over the games 10 years of development, its hard to believe that financing has been an obstacle and it's hard to stomach when cig willingly decided to split development between sc and sq42. In my mind the obstacles are based in priorities and follow through.
Keep in mind that this isnt a Cap ship is a sub cap ship.
Totally - “Industrial Perseus”.
I think its going to be hard for me to pass on this one. It really depends on the price point which we will find out in a few hours. The look for me is top notch, so the rule of cool may convince me to pick this up.
As ever I will never tell anyone what to do with their money, and honestly if it’s a rule of cool driven decision those tend to be the best ones. You’ll probably love the ship regardless of other stuff.
Very nice video & theory about this ship. The question is, do we really need this ship? The Odyssey, the Carrack, the Endeavor, etc. already offer all these possibilities. Of course the looks of the Galaxy are very cool. But most players look for an all-in-one ship. Not everyone has a group to play together, most players are solo. It's nice to see that there are many choices between the different brands of ships, but that also makes it very difficult to choose the right ship. You can't buy them all...I also think the developers can sell more ships if you can actually play with them after announced. People are getting tired of the concept ships and want more progress of the game and fly their ships that are still under development.
I'm not sure personally that this ship is really a competitor to the Odyssey or Carrack (even though they've gone Carrack loaner). The Carrack and Ody are both high end exploration ships, whereas this strikes me more as a high end support ship.
I'd happily buy a Galaxy if it didn't require a crew. once we have AI blades, I'm likely to spend more on Star Citizen.
I still prefer ED ship design, even if I prefer SC gameplay.
With star citizen I give them credit for what they have achieved to this point trying to be a real version of EvE and that game is dated now. ( I might get hit with that reference) but still for the concepts I payed more than I would normally because its playable but didn't go for these big guys as its not worth it at the moment who know infuture.
It’s not even out yet ^^
2014 I bought a avengers titan starter. Upgraded to a cutty. Now I have a 600i vulture and C1. I was skeptical about this game, I still am, but CIG have a way of dragging you back in after large chunks of time away. I mean I have a house and 2 kids now, I can't sit at my computer for 8 hours a day. I spent that money thinking I'd be playing the game in a couple of years, IM IN MY 30s ffs. I joke about my 2 boys who are both less than 3 inheriting my CIG account and it just hitting beta. It's probably true too. We bought this game for the next generation, who won't play it because it will be so out of date.
Yeah minus the kids part we’re in the same boat - I backed SC when I was a single early 20 something living in a shared house with the lads. Now I’m in my 30’s with a wife, apartment and puppy 😂
That it wouldn't be ready for half a decade I thought was the reason you weren't going to buy it.
Only reason to buy a Galaxy is the Carrack loaner.
Rule of cool is the best way
Tho what the loaners will be will also be part of my decision
As ever when it’s your money you do you. And in my experience those who buy based on rule of cool are the least prone to disappointment
This is always true
John Crewe ssid "12 to 18 months". CIG time.
Now in real time that is probably more like 2 to 3 Years, maybe more !
Just have a look at CIG and their previous timelines, if you think I Jest 🤣👍
Just buy a cheap CCU not the whole ship simple, been doing this for 9 years.
Upgraded my corsair to the galaxy fuck yeah
As long as you are a happy person, it's all good!
The Aurora is the worst offender for useless chassis versioning.
I nabbed a $5 CCu
they made a worse carrack. no med bay in the main section means you lose out that massive feature withought buying it for extra. hard pass. it sucks badly.
I'm not convinced (I'll reserve judgement until later) that it's really a Carrack competitor. None of it's stuff really ties in with the Carrack's exploration focus - the Galaxy strikes me much more as a high level support ship.
A little hard to yet judge, but there’s nothing with the Galaxy that remotely interests me as a Carrack owner, so I do agree.
Its simple, wait a bit, we got at least 10 years to buy one.
Hopefully not 10 but for sure on the waiting - the FOMO is not real!
As an old backer, thanks for making this. Still waiting. Still mad they are making SQ42. Still mad they keep churning out new concepts instead of our old ships.
I do completely understand the frustration even if I don’t necessarily share it.
@@LoudGuns i am just happy to see many UA-cam creators this morning are saying enough is enough with concepts for things we won't see for years.
@@CapnSnackbeard you didn't listen to the video. That's not what he's saying and you should try and feel how LoudGuns feels about it.
@@CapnSnackbeard tbf that’s not what I’m saying though. I do have sympathy for anyone who backed early for a ship (sub-capital) that isn’t out. But I think those of us who backed a bit later for things like the BMM or endeavor (2 or mine) did so with eyes open. At least I did I guess.
My issue is first and foremost the lack of detail on modularity.
If you give the final CitizenCon segment with Chris Roberts a good watch, you'll come out of it with MUCH more tolerance about SQ42 being in parallel development. That too, is not something anyone should be mad about. It's helping SC in ways that most don't understand, and giving us a massive new game and huge attention to SC at the same time.
Great videos but man your intro is so loud.
Oh shit I didn’t dampen it
I'm not buying one since it DOESN'T EXIST haha
You have changed, or perhaps to be more precise, your channel has changed. Yes, this is clickbait, and if you continue this path, you may start losing subs.
Elaborate? I mean I feel that (while the title was a bit clicky) it literally is a well reasoned explanation of why I won’t be buying the rsi galaxy.
Respectfully, if this is our new threshold for clickbait, I'd recommend steering clear of, well... *gestures broadly to the entire internet*