Yeah I absolutely agree. Just like that Joran Vander****""?(sorry not sure of last name spelling) but he got that deal if he confessed (and it was supposed to be the truth) but I believe he and anyone else should not get any deal or anything until the family is able to bring their loved ones remains home or at least can verify where and what was done with them. That is the cruelest part after everything else, not letting them lay their family to rest
Shows what kind of person he was ! They are defo guilty not unless she was the most i Lucy person in the world to go and meet him that night and get kidnapped and killed by a complete stranger by being in the wrong place at the wrong time …. But highly unlikely
@@lucyloo9742considering their exact truck was caught on CC camera footage in the exact same area as Heather’s car puts that myth to bed. It wasn’t some rando person(s)…it was those two weirdos. Sydney coaxed her there, and then proceeded to kidnap and take her life, along with that hideous wife of his. Just abominable. SMH 😢
I’ve been in on some of those investigations and the reason that usually happens is because you end up looking in places you never thought you would and sometimes you find stuff that has nothing to do with what you’re looking for , we found some crazy things when I was doing that work. Found a skull once which belonged to a 17-19 year old boy, 8 years later still have no idea who that was or what it’s related to since no one has ever come forward or match a reported missing person for it. Found $20,000 wrapped up in ziplock bags once which we thought was drug related but again nothing has happened with that for years now , it’s a wild job and we live in a wild world.
I was in myrtle beach in 2015 and went kayaking where the car was found. We saw posters about a girl and I am pretty sure it was about Heather. No matter whether someone is a Homewrecker or not, no-one deserves this
@@YumichanXxXI completely agree with you. Yes as a married woman of 32 years myself, what Heather did was very wrong but the guy is just as guilty and that vile wife of his is discusting. Heather did not deserve to die. Like I said it takes two to have an affair. But she mainly blamed Heather and the husband was too much of a wimp to stand up to his evil wife. 😢😢😢
maybe his wife was one of the mean people and he was crying cuz he couldn't say anything and couldn't escape from her either.. of course, i could be wrong.
@@user-gb7qb3rq8p personally, I won't be mean. I'll just let the relationship go. I would be upset but I don't see a point in being mean and bullying people. I would be mean (only towards my partner) if the relationship was an abusive one and won't let me end it. (Seems like Sydney is in that kind of relationship where he can't leave Tammy)
Never get yourself involved with a married man or woman. Trust me, you don't want the drama associated with it. Unfortunately for this case here Heather ended up losing her life because of that.
@@flossy-kx8kgI did not forgive my husband for cheating. Changed the locks and filed for divorce. I don't hate him or the whore but that does not change her status as a whore. I did not kill her, though. When I was 21, I was hit on by a married man. I was insulted that the man thought I was whorish enough to sleep with another woman's husband. I did not accept his offer as I am not a whore. I made sure to inform his wife. His wife hung in their a few more years but ultimately divorced him. What comes with your "guarantee"?
My son dated a girl who turned psycho, when he ended the relationship, it got violent. He was only 20 and moved back home, but she stalked him for months. He did block her but she used other numbers or withheld hers so he couldn’t know. He changed his number twice and she still managed to get hold of it until he changed it again and cut all ties with everyone he’d ever known. He’s now a recluse with extreme anxiety and rarely leaves the house. He’s gone from a loving confident person with a group of friend to having a couple of close friends and a couple of online friends . My heart breaks for him
I have been in a situation of a jealous friend block her in anyway even social media after she repeatedly message everyone to justify herself the next 3weeks change her phone number and message me unstoppable and threatening me and I wasn’t replying knowing who owns this new number she did try to call me many times so block again the new no..block all those who have access with her!and I feel peace
I blocked my mother for being really nasty to me, blocked her for about 5 weeks, and then wasn't told my grandfather died, then got uninvited from my brothers' wedding.
My dear, unfortunately that's not so easy😢 Revenge is not a solution. Never ever, but it's difficult to just forget and move on. Especially if you have built a life and family with that person
@@nomada6789unfortunately some of us have lost our families, I lost my mom at 13 and my dad at 29, also my grandparents (they were a huge part of my life, they even lived one street away my whole life) passed away in my 20's. Other than my abusive husband, we had 2 young children (we split up 5 yrs ago, after 25 yrs of abuse, verbal and psychical) Sometimes things aren't as easy as they seem.
Its possible, Heather was at the boat landing at 340 am by herself, a different black Ford F 150 was cruising there at 340 am, and Heather happened to smash her phone and walk to seattle and start a new life.
@@horaceball5418the video said the truck was a 100 percent match of theirs so I'm guessing that meant the registration etc too or maybe the rims etc weren't standard issue ones or other parts had been modified. Heather felt like it was all over with Sydney and Tammy until just before she disappeared and to do something like that takes planning. I also don't think she would have put her family through this and would have told them she had to leave and kept in touch with them as they were all very close. It would be wonderful to think she was still alive and out there safe and well, possibly married and with a family of her own by now but I think deep down everyone knows that couldn't be further from the truth a decade on x
@@the_uglysteve6933 I would bet they did something very gruesome with her body ie dismembered or burned it or something horrific and don’t want anyone to know.
You are my new favourite crime channel . You present the facts and the background without interpretation of your personal thoughts. And thats not a criticism. Keep up the good work.
@JustnaubreyKaraoke which bit didn't you understand ? If you get convicted of murder in Australia and you don't reveal the whereabouts of the body, they don't let you out of jail . . ever !
@brandyjean7015 If enough people lobby their politicians, then you could have could have the same legislation . I know this couple was only convicted of kidnapping , but the fact the victim was never ever seen again and no trace proof of life , then there should be a murder charge. Perhaps the prosecutor should offer a 5 year reduction but only to the first one to confess the location of the body , and then the other gets a whole life for murder .
Not giving away where Heather is and being the only one knowing what truly happened to her gives Tammy this last bit of control that no one can take from her. I hate that fact..
She is a truly wicked woman. Her involvement in this practically killed her own father, who died of a heart attack during the investigation, trying to withhold information himself, to protect his diabolic daughter. Even that doesn't convict her to come clean about what she and her disgusting husband did to Heather.
Maybe not. Maybe she knows it's a bargaining chip that she could use someday. For example, if she had a parole hearing and she can come clean and act like she's really sorry about it and wants to come clean now.
@@JustnaubreyKaraokeand how about you mind your own damn business. This commenter was simply stating her personal opinion to the content creator, so how on earth has that affected you in any way whatsoever. Go troll yourself back into the dark dank hole you crawled out of.
The only thing I don't like about it is all of her useless droning on and on about what an angel the victim was, who EVERYBODY loved, and whose smile lit up the room, yadda, yadda, yadda. When she starts up on that shit, I usually start getting anxiety, and just click over to ThatChapter or ThisIsMonsters.
Easy, she was heavily under the influence- Semen is one hell of a drug especially when she was ovulatin and he was fillin her up with loads of it raw d on the reg. Thats how he knocked her up so quick remember. 3rd month together she got preg. When you have that on yer mind like she did that alls it takes is a quick drive and you can get your fix to get stuffed full like a Thanksgiving turkey with a big ol cream pie for desert. If you ain't a you g gal mite sound wrong but the Semen is the ultimate hook it's bioligy
Don't be the side guy/gal. Love triangles always end badly. Of course no one deserves to die for cheating, or being the side-chick/dude, but people react with a rage seldom seen when betrayed in that fashion. Why risk it? Also if they will cheat with you, they will cheat ON you. There is no future there.
@@blinkypushbuttons The problem is, the 3 most common fantasies for women are daddy/daughter/grape scenarios, cheating with someone else, and threesome/gangbang/getting trained scenarios. Women will live out fantasies as much as they can since they are mentally stimulated instead of visually. They'll start calling out Daddy! while you bang (ick af but common). Some will seek out gangbangs and threesomes (rarer than the 1st due to many various factors), but the easiest one to do, the one they can fulfill at anytime with minimal effort, is the cheating. It's something they fantasize about. It's something they crave to do. Eventually, the majority give in. I just assume every woman is a cheater, or will be. Saves me the headache.
yep a truly hideous lowlife. How Sidney married and had children with this creature I will never know. Not absolving him of blame of course,, just that she was the ringleader in it all and had total control over her husband.
Spot on. Tammy was the obsessed one. IMO I think she stalked Heather either in real life or social media or both & with Heather's noticeable weight gain assumed she was pregnant by Sydney. Ans that alone took her right over the edge. She made Sydney get a pregnancy test to confirm it by meeting with Heather that night. And when it came out positive either Tammy showed up to help him murder Heather or made her spineless husband do it alone and hide her remains. I'm not condoning anyone who pursues a relationship with someone whose currently married. Just knowing they would do this to their partner should tell the person your most likely next in line to be cheated on. Once you start a relationship as the "other"woman, you will never be the only woman. Love & lust makes us do stupid things but it certainly isn't a mistake deserving of a death sentence in my opinion, but why was Heather the only one vilified? Seems to me Sydney, her balless husband should of been held accountable for some of Tammy's fury. Had he kept it in his pants & stuck with his marriage vows it wouldn't of happened to begin with. Those 2 POS have got to think the rest of the world is totally stupid to believe their pleas of innocence. I can't believe Tammy let her jealousy & rage jeopardize her kids left to be orphaned as they rot in jail. Sadly Heather's family are the ones serving a life sentence of no knowing where their daughter's remains are. And to me, that proves just how unfair life can really be sometimes.
Never, ever, ever get between a couple who have an abusive relationship. They will always turn on you _together_ and make you pay for interfering (as they see it). I wish this lesson was learned, but we keep seeing cases like this.
By being a coward, a liar, and unfaithful, he lost everything. His freedom and family are destroyed. Never invite a married person into your private life.
So he killed Heather after the pregnancy test he purchased had revealed she was indeed pregnant. That’s sick. He not only killed Heather but their baby too. I truly hope her remains are found. Why dont the police just check his phone location that night?
Possibly, we don't know if she was preggers, no body found yet... But yea, you are right, they likely did not want to pay child support so they killed her. Also her weight gain was crazy, went from cute to fat real fast, likely pregnant. The pics of her learning to drive a stick shift, damn, easily 40lbs heavier than any other picture they showed. Even on her missing fliers they had her at 5'1" 110lbs when she was easily 150ish when she went missing...
They said the phone was shut off at the boat launch area. While it is widely suspected modern phones can still broadcast such info even when you turn it off, it is pretty unlikely a phone from 2013 did that.
It's so amazing how Tammy went on that rant about her family being stalked & terrorized by Heather's father, especially considering the tremendous amount of bullying, harrassment, and terrorizing she herself did to that poor girl. Not to mention the fact she and her lapdog hubby kidnapped & murdered her. May they rot in peace after a long, long time in prison. I feel bad for their kids. Their dad was an idiot who led his life dick first while their mother was a manipulative, domineering harpy. Here's hoping the Maurer kids can lead some sort of normal life after all this. Also, I hope Heather's family finds some peace & comfort in this life as well, and that Heather is, for now, resting in peace.
@@professionaltrollgirl2682 So you’re saying that murder is an appropriate response to dealing with a “homewrecker”? Didn’t Tammy say she didn’t care where Sydney put his d!ick since they had an open marriage and she had boyfriend of her own for TWO YEARS?! So which is it… was Heather a homewrecker? Or was she “just a hoe” exactly like Tammy was??? 😂
Heather should not have gotten with Sydney knowing he was married but how is Tammy only blaming Heather, Sydney is a lot more to blame than Heather. I don’t understand why did Heather keep calling Sydney on that pay phone and then went out I’m presuming to see him?
Sidney and Tammy are depraved and despicable creatures. Heather was young and naive and Sidney should have stayed the hell away from her. She did nothing to deserve being murdered and disposed of like garbage.
Which is sad. 😢 I hate him for not stepping away and leaving her alone either he wanted to be with her… I know it’s never ok. He isn’t innocent. I know he did something to her like Tammy did 😢
Why she went out in the early hours of the morning to meet that creep is baffling. I just want to scream at her and tell her what a bad decision she’s making and not to go. It’s very frustrating when young people make such bad and silly decisions that will cause them their lives. RIP Heather, it’s so sad for her and her family ❤
@Baehobie he probably lied to her about Tammy being there, made up some story and tricked her. He knew what to say to her and manipulate her. It's really not hard to imagine what was going through her head, especially since she was likely pregnant. She needed to talk to him about her pregnancy and trusted him to not bring Tammy along with him. Sadly she was wrong. At least these murderers are in jail.
My cousin went missing for 5 days and it was torture. We finally found his body in a pond* but it was closure. I couldnt imagine suffering for years or forever without answers. This family deserves to lay her to rest. What inhumane people. I understand they cant tell because it would screw their chances of appeals but I hope when they exhaust them they tell this family where their daughter is.
Heather was at a stage in life where one tends to make bad decisions, the other two monsters were adults, one is a coward with aspirations to be a heartthrob and the other is a psychopath. Every time I see an update on this case I hope that they have found the body, for her family and for these two to be charged with murder (as they should have been from the beginning)... they know it well, and that's why they keep their mouths shut.
@@GrandTime-17 Legally, she was an adult, but at 20 one does not have the same maturity or experience as at 40 (and just to be clear, under no circumstances do I endorse relationships of this type)... although, as has been seen, those two were almost 40 and their brains only had garbage.
She was also an adult? And clearly a bad one. She doesn’t deserve murder but she was still a horrible person who is fully responsible for her selfish choices.
If murder is an acceptable and predictable outcome due to an affair, why wasn't the husband murdered? The husband is the one who made vows... The husband is the one who broke those vows... Heather didn't owe Tammy anything other than an appology. Considering how it ended, the perpetrators should not be afforded any sympathy...unless of course you identify with psychotic weirdos who terrorised then murdered a 20 year old...
@eadweard. people are saying in these comments 'what did she expect?' Which implies that if you sleep with a married guy, you should indeed expect to be murdered
Do all relationship that begin this way end up this way? No. Do you want to be the one who find out how bad it can get? Nothing is worth being killed for or dying over.
I've never heard of this case, so sad for Heather and her family. Yes she made poor decisions but she was just a young lassie, I'm sure lots of us have done things we're not proud of when we were young and daft without life experience. I don't think they'll ever tell what really happened and where Heather is, because Tammy hated Heather and hates her family, and Sidney is so submissive he would never go against his wife. Another brilliant episode, thank you ladies! 🙂
Exactly! She was too young to realise what a dangerous position she was in. As for him, he’s to blame because as the elder in their “relationship” he should have known better. Sickening to think he exploited her like that and to then torture her further throwing insults at her with him and his wife- bullying a young lass like that is just absolutely sickening. They absolutely murdered her and those charges shouldn’t have ever been dropped
@@rubix1651Wrong! She was old enough to know EXACTLY what it is to commit ADULTERY! Ain't NO woman...I don't care if she is a teenager, stupid enough to know that you DON'T mess with married men
@user-gb7qb3rq8p No, you shouldn't mess with married men. She made a terrible error of judgement although she was very young and I can't say that I didn't do really stupid things at her age. No matter what, she didn't deserve to be hurt, to be murdered. Nobody deserves that.
Tammy has those crazy eyes. Too bad they couldn’t work out a plea deal with Sydney because my guess is Tammy was the mastermind since Sydney seemed to be submissive and probably scared of Tammy. RIP to Heather and hugs for her family. 😢
I first discovered this case on a different true crime channel and it's cases like this that really get to me because the victim is never found. Not knowing what happened and not having the body brought home to the family is absolutely heartbreaking.
What could POSSIBLY go wrong when you have an affair with a MARRIED MAN IN A WORLD OF UNSTABLE PEOPLE??!! AND FYI TO THOSE INEXPERIENCED IN RELATIONSHIPS; IF SOMEONE MARRIED TELLS YOU THEY ARE IN A "UNHAPPY" MARRIAGE TELL THEM TO LOOK YOU UP WHEN THEY ARE DIVORCED!! BECAUSE THAT IS ONE OF THE OLDEST TACTICS IN THE BOOK!!
Nowhere did I see that Heather was Experienced in relationships. And even if she was They were both grown adults. You're a special kinda stupid if you th8nk that her death was in any way her fault. RIP sweet, beautiful Heather and may Tammy and her punk ass botch rot in hel....l
Being in an "unhappy" marriage is far worse for your kids! ASK MINE! They don't want to pay child support or lose half! But when theygive YOU THIS LINE//.. IT IS JUST SO THEY CAN HAVE THEIR CAKE AND EAT IT TOO!! @@v3le
Yeah, cuz every situation and scenario is just that easy or simple. That is a very ignorant, judgemental take on situations you clearly know nothing of.
@@chattahuffman5117it’s not easy and it takes time and a plan but u should leave. I was married 15 yrs I knew at 11 yrs I had to go I finally but things in place 4 yrs later and left . There was no cheating ..
I cannot wrap my brain around the way people handle situations sometimes. Like, if your husband refuses to stop cheating, you leave. You don’t kill his mistress. Also in like 5 years she won’t even care about Sydney anymore. Would it all have been worth it then? The crassness of it all.
This case stills haunts me to this day. The pain, and heartache these parents have endured all of this time is brutal, and agonizing. And, poor Heather. She didn't deserve any of this. My heart breaks for the family, especially her parents. I've had to bury a child, so I feel every ounce of what you're going through.
Honestly nobody really knows how crazy any person is, people are walking around like there's no consequences. I watch too much true crime to mess around.
Torture is not only unethical and illegal under the Geneva convention 1984, it's also useless because people will confess to anything under torture, even things they haven't done. Torture as a method for obtaining information is inherently flawed because there is no way to tell if the subject possesses the desired knowledge. Thus if the subject denies to give the information it is assumed they are not yet broken, and once they are broken they will say anything to make the torture end.
@@polaide8036it's obvious the husband & wife committed this murder. Did you not watch the video & see all the evidence? Yeah, torture isn't good, but this case would be a great exception because there would be a result...they would either tell where the body is, or how they destroyed it.
Maybe they should take a page out of Walker, Texas Ranger. Where Chuck Norris tells the main bad guy the other guy spilled the beans on him and they know everything and this is his last chance to come clean. This works 100% of the time on the show no matter how tough the bad guy was prior.@@FedupwitDC
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heather is no angel. she slept around with a married man. I would say that's pretty evil. It's actually a sin. It's called adultery. And no, her being young is not an excuse.
I wish Heather would had gone to the police & made a report when Tammy first started attacking her. It’s sad & pathetic Tammy acted like a CHILD! Attacking & belittling a young woman is disgusting. She should have put all that energy on leaving Sydney & growing up.
Poor Heather. Tammy and Sydney are evil incarnate. Yes Heather had an affair with a married man but she was moving on and didn't deserve to be murdered. Poor Heather's family. My heart breaks for them.
@@randomkeirI’m actually wondering why did she keep calling him on that pay phone and then went to meet him at night. Knowing how crazy Tammy was behaving in the past, wasn’t she moving on from all this?
@@Baehobie she was pregnant with his child and he probably tell her that he can take care of the baby, and end up kidnapping her and kill both heather and her baby. Heather most likely don't want anyone else to know that shes pregnant with Sidney kid.
She did put herself in that position. Calling yourself angel while shacking married man… she didn’t deserve to die but she sure as hell wasn’t a good person
You made a good point. However, even though adultery is a sin, murder is a quantum leap in sinning. Heather didn't deserve her fate, despite her faults.
@tobeexcite Man makes that distinction - to silence his conscience evidently. But to the Lord sin is sin. Telling a lie, promiscuity, theft, being jealous, cheating on tests, drug use, drunkenness, taking His name in vain, using curse words, adultery, homosexuality, sex with minors, disrespect towards parents and elders, murder, hate and so on. In fact if you hate someone it's considered the same as murder. There's no clearer example that every sin is as heinous as the other. To our detriment we've forsaken this truth.
The same could be said for anything that we know we’re not supposed to do. Don’t over eat, don’t smoke don’t drink anddrive. Regardless when you do indulge you shouldn’t be punished with your life. And always
@@Everybody_Say_Love Overeating can kill you. Smoking can kill you. Driving drunk can kill you.... And what do you know, sleeping with married men can kill you too. Your comment is pointless. When you "indulge" you are quite often punished with your life. If you want a long and healthy life then stay away from habitual overindulgence.
This happened about 1&1/2 hours from me . We put up some fliers at stores/gas stations on Hwy 17N . Trucks and and cars had them plastered in their windows all over the state. Everyone knew fairly early that Tammy & Sidney were involved . Without signs of life , I don’t understand why they can’t be charged with murder. If they’ve been convicted of kidnapping her, that’s the next obvious step.
This happened in my town. My sister was in jail briefly with POS Tammy. My sisters boyfriend was in jail with Sydney. Police should have used them as informants to extract information from them
Because you can’t charge someone with murder if there’s no body, and if they did then if a body was found they couldn’t be trialed again sue to double jeopardy iirc
I really enjoy this ch. so much. Your voice is amazing & soothing to hear. And with many cases you divulge information I never heard about via other TC ch’s. As well as pics. I didn’t know that Heather’s friends were calling /pretending to be Tammy etc. Perhaps they were trying to help her to defuse the situation before it got too crazy? Anyway, I always enjoy your episodes. Thx👍
Facts, those sorts you typically can. Their face wreaks of it. Poor kid, she was 20 years old and had a life ahead of her. May they never get out of prison. 🤍🙏🏼
the young woman was messing with her kids by wanting to be their nanny and though she said it was sydney's idea, I doubt it. sydney probably knew his wife would never allow such a young pretty woman to live with them - especially if she was from the same town and then moved to the new town.
Where was the family when she dated married man? Why they didn't stopped her? Didn't talked? They see posts on twitter. They knew nothing beautiful will happen with much older married man
I’ve watched every video on this case and it’s heart breaking , she was taken advantage of and manipulated by a much much older man and EVERY ounce of evidence points directly at Sydney and Tammy , but with no body they keep getting off. I read a comment from a fisherman that loves by the boat ramp saying there are Gators everywhere in there , that it eould take virtually no effort or time before gators would take anything moving in the water that time of night and a gator would be the easiest way to make someone disappear , a lot of theories are the same where we know they met her at the ramp and she wasn’t seen again. It’s so sad that Florida is one of those few states that regardless of eveidence can’t give a murder conviction without a body. We know it was them, and I think truly it was the crazy wife, he was infatuated with her and friends of his say he’s one of the nicest guys but anyone that knows Tammy says she’s insane and she did threaten death to Heather multiple time and knowing she’s was pregnant with his baby that’s surely push her over the edge but he definelty played a part. Breaks my heart as a father of daughters
I can never understand why, when a husband cheats on a wife, the other woman gets vilified. She, the other woman, is not the one who made the vow to be faithful and is usually relying on what the husband is telling her when deciding whether or not to get involved.
That does not give you a free pass to screw around with a Married man. I'm in no way siding with the 2 losers, however she knew full well he was married and chose to lay down with him anyways.
@@tapoemt3995of course it doesn't but the husband is the one who's stepped outside the marriage, he's the one who lied & cheated on his wife. I'm married & if my hubby ever had an affair my anger is purely towards him. I'll never understand why they go after the other person but often forgive their partner, once the trust is broken the marriage is over. Let's face it this young girl made a huge mistake getting involved with this POS, but he definitely manipulated her & the fact he was nearly 40 & she was only 20 make's both him & his wife disgusting by both their actions towards this girl.
Sorry but if the other woman KNOWS he’s married, she’s at fault too. He shouldn’t be trying to outside of his marriage but she shouldn’t be encouraging it either. Same goes for a married woman/single man dynamic
Well, yes, don't get involved with married men, but what gets me is, why do these men bother to get married in the first place if they want to chase after women all the time? Surely it would be much easier to remain single and chase as many women as possible???
The smugness of Sydney (and those crazy teeth!) Tammy is an embarrassment. If you’re at the point where you’re handcuffing your partner to a bed to ensure they don’t sneak out, you need to reevaluate your relationship. Tragic case.
That tattoo is nuttier than squirrel turds !!! I can smell the craziness and toxicity from Boston . Geez , this is a crazy tale . Great work by the way
@BostonShovingstuff I agree that narcissistic request screams he is her possession I suspect he is being abused so sought solicitor outside the toxic marriage messy allround
@@Raw_Rootsbut you as a single 20yr old also have the ability to stay away! I have heard way too many stories of married men killing their side pieces it it not worth your life!
I'm thinking she didn't want to be exposed to family and friends. She esp. probably didn't want her dad to find out about this relationship with a married older man. She was in a scary mess and wasn't thinking clearly.
They should put them both in solitary confinement until they give up where they put the girl. We've got to stop catering to criminals in this country because it's just getting worse. In this case it's so cruel to the parents it's unbelievable. And yet this unholy mess of a woman. was up on the stand crying about how she was being taken away from HER CHILDREN , because of "all this"
It’s just so frustrating that they can charge them with kidnapping but not her murder! Obviously if they did kidnapped her they murdered her! I think she met up with that loser bc he tricked her and his psycho wife kept her hostage while he bought the pregnancy test then it was positive so they killed her! Maybe one day the guilt of what he did will make him say what he did with Heathers body. From what I’ve seen on this vid abt his wife she will NEVER break bc she’s a psychopath! What kind of person handcuffs their husband to their bed to keep him from sneaking out? That really says a lot abt her! RIP Heather you got some justice but not enough. I really hope her parents will some day get some answers and bring her home. It really makes me sick to c that these monsters didn’t get tried for murder I just hope they both have to stay in prison for the entire 30 years!! I hope they’re both suffering EVERY DAY in prison!!!
There are ways to get people to talk even someone like that’s crazy woman. But the legal system won’t do it because it’s not civilized. As for the husband I think all you would have to do is threaten to do something to him and he would talk. IMO
Here's a PSA tip for everyone in a relationship.... *IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU "HAVE TO" HANDCUFF YOUR S/O TO THE BED AT NIGHT TO INSURE THEY DON'T GO OUT & FIND THEIR BOOTIE CALL.... THERE IS NO RELATIONSHIP TO SAVE!!! THEY NO LONGER LOVE YOU!! YOU'RE NOT THE ONE!!! THERE'S NO TRUST! TRUST IS THE FOUNDATION & WITHOUT A SOLID FOUNDATION, IT'S BOUND TO CRUMBLE!* And add to that forcing them to get a tattoo with the other persons name, change their password so ONLY THE OTHER PERSON KNOWS IT, have the other person followed (keeping tabs on 'em) screen their calls, dictate what they wear, where they work, when they work and where they go.... It's OVER! Pack your bags and leave! *YOU'RE NOT THE ONE!!!*
You're right but it's pointless explaining it to a narcissistic psychopath like Tammy, unfortunately. They can't function based on reason. She threw a tantrum and lashed out like a 4-year-old who is completely unable to regulate her emotions. These kinds of people are extremely dangerous and there is no reasoning with them.
I was watching TV one day, years ago, and the news came on. The lead story was about a child who had gone missing while out playing. Someone in the family said 'the kid's probably dead'. She must have seen the look on my face, because she looked at me and said' Look: once they've been gone 24 hours, they normally are. You'll see'. Sadly, she wasn't wrong. Usually, once they've been missing overnight, they normally end up dead. You'll see.
RIP Heather, but at 20 you know it’s wrong to mess around with someone knowing they are married, she wasn’t that young to not know the consequences. Now her poor family is suffering and grieving their child. This case is heartbreaking, she definitely didn’t deserve punishment that great.
Why but, the poor girls not around anymore let her rest with out saying she was 20 and should have known better to mess around with a married man, no one deserves being killed, it takes two to tango plus don't judge this girl or the situation, it's not right and she's not here to defend herself. Rest with the Angels Heather x ♥️ 💓 ❤ Your missed her loved very much Xxx
The dark side of getting with someone that’s married, you never know who’s on the other side of that marriage. Poor girl found out who the real devil was in her Angel and Devil love story.
“Believe me, I had the friends to make me _that kind of girl_ , but I didn’t do it.” Perhaps the most incriminating thing she said. This is textbook cognitive dissonance. “I could have been in the NBA but I wanted to be an insurance broker so I turned it down.”
She was such a fool to fall for such a creep. It is so sad she lost her life over him. Her Twitter history is crazy. What could she possibly have seen in him?
Even crazier is that Sidney stayed with his ham hock of a wife instead of developing a relationship with Heather, all three of them were nuts apparently...
I hate to say it but this case FRUSTRATED me because of that, I'm so sick of these naive young girls glamorizing "relationships" with these creepy loser older men. Like sure any gal will be attracted to a nice DILF but that doesn't mean you need to try and act on it... Much less when said loser is MARRIED! I'm a mother and I can't imagine how ashamed I would be knowing that my daughter got herself involved with these weirdos. Such a sad waste of a life - I really don't want to be judgmental but someone really should have steered that girl a little harder in the right direction. It seems like her best friend was very mature in giving her advice about it too.
@@joebauers3746exactly they were all nuts/bad/scum in their own way. Clearly Tammy was the worst by faaaar but each person was crap in their own way. That said NOOO WAY Heather deserved this
Wow, great coverage of this case, ladies. Glad some sort of justice prevailed; just wish her family had her body to lay to rest. Anyhow, enjoy the rest of your weekend!
Warm, popular, well-liked, free spirited, loving art, smiles, loving life blabla, this bullshit really gets old, it is in all of the beginnings of these movies, after which they get killed brutally. It's always the most talented, skilled and most loved people so it seems.
For the religious out there, there's a saying: God will never send you someone else's partner. Think about that. And for both the religious and non-religious, be logical: If someone who is married is approaching you, something is WRONG with them! Don't be flattered, be insulted! They're not offering you their best.
Once convicted ... NO ONE should get ANY chance at parole UNTIL they lead the family and law enforcement to the victim's body. PERIOD !!
Amen!
10000000000%. Does not make sense why they would ever allow that
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Yeah I absolutely agree. Just like that Joran Vander****""?(sorry not sure of last name spelling) but he got that deal if he confessed (and it was supposed to be the truth) but I believe he and anyone else should not get any deal or anything until the family is able to bring their loved ones remains home or at least can verify where and what was done with them. That is the cruelest part after everything else, not letting them lay their family to rest
Fully agree.
Tammy is beyond hateful. Even after she killed Heather, she couldn’t help herself and went online to denigrate Heather even more. Wickedly evil.
She's vile
HEATHER LITERALLY GOT WITH A MARRIED MAN AND BRAGGED ABOUT IT!!!
@professionaltrollgirl2682 She was fucking young, and he was using her. It takes 2 to tango and she didn't deserve to be murdered. Jfc smdh
@@GetCraftyLemons SHE WAS AN ADULT AND SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER THAN TO BE FKG A MARRIED MAN AND BRAGGING ABOUT IT. FK AROUND AND FIND OUT 🙄
@@GetCraftyLemons what’s jfc?
The fact Sydney wanted to have Heather as an nanny while he was involved with her is wild. The audacity!
He's a sicko for sure. Sounds like he and his wife were suited for each other.
Shows what kind of person he was ! They are defo guilty not unless she was the most i Lucy person in the world to go and meet him that night and get kidnapped and killed by a complete stranger by being in the wrong place at the wrong time …. But highly unlikely
@@lucyloo9742considering their exact truck was caught on CC camera footage in the exact same area as Heather’s car puts that myth to bed. It wasn’t some rando person(s)…it was those two weirdos. Sydney coaxed her there, and then proceeded to kidnap and take her life, along with that hideous wife of his. Just abominable. SMH 😢
Heather was dumb and stupid. The guy was a low life, married, basically a no-good-for-nothing, so ....
That’s men for you.
I always find it so crazy when, in the course of searching for a missing person, _another_ person’s remains are found…
I’ve been in on some of those investigations and the reason that usually happens is because you end up looking in places you never thought you would and sometimes you find stuff that has nothing to do with what you’re looking for , we found some crazy things when I was doing that work. Found a skull once which belonged to a 17-19 year old boy, 8 years later still have no idea who that was or what it’s related to since no one has ever come forward or match a reported missing person for it. Found $20,000 wrapped up in ziplock bags once which we thought was drug related but again nothing has happened with that for years now , it’s a wild job and we live in a wild world.
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This case happened in my state. Us locals still keep an eye out for new information, updates, clues ect. We'll never forget about Heather ❤
❤ wow the wife face is pure evil
I was in myrtle beach in 2015 and went kayaking where the car was found. We saw posters about a girl and I am pretty sure it was about Heather. No matter whether someone is a Homewrecker or not, no-one deserves this
@@YumichanXxXI live in Myrtle and I think they took her body to another state..
@@YumichanXxXI completely agree with you. Yes as a married woman of 32 years myself, what Heather did was very wrong but the guy is just as guilty and that vile wife of his is discusting. Heather did not deserve to die. Like I said it takes two to have an affair. But she mainly blamed Heather and the husband was too much of a wimp to stand up to his evil wife. 😢😢😢
It’s so ironic how Sydney cries over mean people when his wife is a hideous example of true meanness
maybe his wife was one of the mean people and he was crying cuz he couldn't say anything and couldn't escape from her either.. of course, i could be wrong.
I'm sure you would be mean if your husband cheated on you too
@@user-gb7qb3rq8p personally, I won't be mean. I'll just let the relationship go. I would be upset but I don't see a point in being mean and bullying people. I would be mean (only towards my partner) if the relationship was an abusive one and won't let me end it. (Seems like Sydney is in that kind of relationship where he can't leave Tammy)
HEHE IM NOW REALLY STALKING IN SPIRIT AS DIRTY DIANA
Only his wife?
Never get yourself involved with a married man or woman. Trust me, you don't want the drama associated with it. Unfortunately for this case here Heather ended up losing her life because of that.
True. Also guarantee the one who cheated gets forgiven and the mistress will be hated even tho it's the married person who is extremely in the wrong x
@@flossy-kx8kgI did not forgive my husband for cheating. Changed the locks and filed for divorce. I don't hate him or the whore but that does not change her status as a whore. I did not kill her, though. When I was 21, I was hit on by a married man. I was insulted that the man thought I was whorish enough to sleep with another woman's husband. I did not accept his offer as I am not a whore. I made sure to inform his wife. His wife hung in their a few more years but ultimately divorced him. What comes with your "guarantee"?
So sad
@@flossy-kx8kgif that person knows the other person is married and still cheats with them, then yeah, hatred is understandable
Well, agree
I never understand why people can’t press the BLOCK button on their phones. It’s so liberating.
IKR I thought that the same thing
My son dated a girl who turned psycho, when he ended the relationship, it got violent. He was only 20 and moved back home, but she stalked him for months. He did block her but she used other numbers or withheld hers so he couldn’t know. He changed his number twice and she still managed to get hold of it until he changed it again and cut all ties with everyone he’d ever known. He’s now a recluse with extreme anxiety and rarely leaves the house. He’s gone from a loving confident person with a group of friend to having a couple of close friends and a couple of online friends . My heart breaks for him
I have been in a situation of a jealous friend block her in anyway even social media after she repeatedly message everyone to justify herself the next 3weeks change her phone number and message me unstoppable and threatening me and I wasn’t replying knowing who owns this new number she did try to call me many times so block again the new no..block all those who have access with her!and I feel peace
I blocked my mother for being really nasty to me, blocked her for about 5 weeks, and then wasn't told my grandfather died, then got uninvited from my brothers' wedding.
@@igitha..._; yikes. Yes, sometimes it can backfire I guess, like in your situation.
the most unbelievable thing around here is that tammy was only 34
how is it unbelievable that she's 34?
@@tvoqui3714 because she looks older than 34, pay attention.
Exactly
She looks 54
Lmfaoooooo seriously I thought she was his mother
If your spouse is cheating just leave that relationship for good and find happiness within 🤷♀️
My dear, unfortunately that's not so easy😢
Revenge is not a solution. Never ever, but it's difficult to just forget and move on.
Especially if you have built a life and family with that person
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never impossible but you are prolonging your pain 🤷♀️ your dignity and family are more important 🌸
Probably because Sydney was out of Tammy's league and the former was attracted to her wealth.
@@clintonibe9050toxic is toxic and very unhealthy for everyone.
@@nomada6789unfortunately some of us have lost our families, I lost my mom at 13 and my dad at 29, also my grandparents (they were a huge part of my life, they even lived one street away my whole life) passed away in my 20's.
Other than my abusive husband, we had 2 young children (we split up 5 yrs ago, after 25 yrs of abuse, verbal and psychical)
Sometimes things aren't as easy as they seem.
The Elvis family is amazing to bring attention to other missing cases as well. That is beyond words. ❤
The sister was very very pretty as well, what a awful case,
Its possible, Heather was at the boat landing at 340 am by herself, a different black Ford F 150 was cruising there at 340 am, and Heather happened to smash her phone and walk to seattle and start a new life.
@@horaceball5418the video said the truck was a 100 percent match of theirs so I'm guessing that meant the registration etc too or maybe the rims etc weren't standard issue ones or other parts had been modified.
Heather felt like it was all over with Sydney and Tammy until just before she disappeared and to do something like that takes planning. I also don't think she would have put her family through this and would have told them she had to leave and kept in touch with them as they were all very close.
It would be wonderful to think she was still alive and out there safe and well, possibly married and with a family of her own by now but I think deep down everyone knows that couldn't be further from the truth a decade on x
@@horaceball5418 are you fr rn
Dating married men never works out well! But these two are a horror! Why don't wives ever blame the husband?
Duh, they do, but it takes two to tango, ya know.
I mean its obvious that man was abused into total submission by that evil psycho.
That is my exact thought! Tammy is married to Sydney! Sydney is the one who broke those vows!
18/19 year old girl is so vulnerable.
@@dawnjones6138 Yes she was young. She appears to have been the one who chased him. Still, he was married & should have resisted her.
Most people truly believe men are retarded/vulnerable adults.
Such a sad case 😢 Her family deserves her body to give her a proper resting place. Utterly selfish to not tell them where she is
They should "extract" the information from these disgusting monsters
Monster🐊
@@the_uglysteve6933 I would bet they did something very gruesome with her body ie dismembered or burned it or something horrific and don’t want anyone to know.
It's also selfish to have an affair with a married man
@@concernedandequal1928it’s even more selfish that a married man cheat on his wife
I STILL can't believe that murderers actually think they'll get away with it..!?!
Right I always think the same things …. Like do u really want to be in jail forever because eventually u will be caught
they basically did tho
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You are my new favourite crime channel . You present the facts and the background without interpretation of your personal thoughts. And thats not a criticism. Keep up the good work.
In Australia the rule is , no body, no release !
@JustnaubreyKaraoke which bit didn't you understand ? If you get convicted of murder in Australia and you don't reveal the whereabouts of the body, they don't let you out of jail . . ever !
Good rule.
@brandyjean7015 If enough people lobby their politicians, then you could have could have the same legislation .
I know this couple was only convicted of kidnapping , but the fact the victim was never ever seen again and no trace proof of life , then there should be a murder charge. Perhaps the prosecutor should offer a 5 year reduction but only to the first one to confess the location of the body , and then the other gets a whole life for murder .
@@JustnaubreyKaraokegoogle can if you don’t believe him wtf?
@@johnniethepom7545They weren't convicted of murder, so it's entirely irrelevant.
Not giving away where Heather is and being the only one knowing what truly happened to her gives Tammy this last bit of control that no one can take from her. I hate that fact..
She is a truly wicked woman. Her involvement in this practically killed her own father, who died of a heart attack during the investigation, trying to withhold information himself, to protect his diabolic daughter. Even that doesn't convict her to come clean about what she and her disgusting husband did to Heather.
Maybe not. Maybe she knows it's a bargaining chip that she could use someday. For example, if she had a parole hearing and she can come clean and act like she's really sorry about it and wants to come clean now.
@@Dan-di9jd I just hope she isn't smart like that..
They probably burned .....
She’s too crazy to keep quiet forever - her husband will piss her off and she’ll run her mouth just to spite him
This is my favorite true crime channel. Your voice adds such emotion and depth to these stories. 👏🏼
@@JustnaubreyKaraokeand how about you mind your own damn business. This commenter was simply stating her personal opinion to the content creator, so how on earth has that affected you in any way whatsoever. Go troll yourself back into the dark dank hole you crawled out of.
@@JustnaubreyKaraoke They were complimenting the creator on the production of their videos. What has that got to do with the case?
The only thing I don't like about it is all of her useless droning on and on about what an angel the victim was, who EVERYBODY loved, and whose smile lit up the room, yadda, yadda, yadda.
When she starts up on that shit, I usually start getting anxiety, and just click over to ThatChapter or ThisIsMonsters.
Read the room.
@@stevielagan1948 Anxiety over words that the family and friends used to describe her? Grow up.
Tammy is SMILING in her mug shot WTF!!!
It's beyond my comprehension that Heather agreed to meet Sidney in such a remote location.
SHE DIDNT JOKES ON HIM NOW
Easy, she was heavily under the influence- Semen is one hell of a drug especially when she was ovulatin and he was fillin her up with loads of it raw d on the reg. Thats how he knocked her up so quick remember. 3rd month together she got preg. When you have that on yer mind like she did that alls it takes is a quick drive and you can get your fix to get stuffed full like a Thanksgiving turkey with a big ol cream pie for desert. If you ain't a you g gal mite sound wrong but the Semen is the ultimate hook it's bioligy
She was in love with him.
Don't be the side guy/gal. Love triangles always end badly. Of course no one deserves to die for cheating, or being the side-chick/dude, but people react with a rage seldom seen when betrayed in that fashion. Why risk it? Also if they will cheat with you, they will cheat ON you. There is no future there.
A woman is the side gal 99.9% of the time even if she’s married
@@blinkypushbuttons The problem is, the 3 most common fantasies for women are daddy/daughter/grape scenarios, cheating with someone else, and threesome/gangbang/getting trained scenarios. Women will live out fantasies as much as they can since they are mentally stimulated instead of visually.
They'll start calling out Daddy! while you bang (ick af but common). Some will seek out gangbangs and threesomes (rarer than the 1st due to many various factors), but the easiest one to do, the one they can fulfill at anytime with minimal effort, is the cheating. It's something they fantasize about. It's something they crave to do. Eventually, the majority give in.
I just assume every woman is a cheater, or will be. Saves me the headache.
common, she was young and had to learn a lot. What did she know about that
@@blinkypushbuttonsNOT..stop with the lies..90% of cheaters are MARRIED MEN..so GTFOH
@@blinkypushbuttons😂😂😂😂yeah right..only in your pea-brain..smh
The smirk on her face in the mug shot just sends chills. 😵💫
Evil
Spot on!😱
yep a truly hideous lowlife. How Sidney married and had children with this creature I will never know. Not absolving him of blame of course,, just that she was the ringleader in it all and had total control over her husband.
Pure evil… this case was so sad
Good grief the wife went over board she’s definitely insecure. And that guy has no balls.
Their relationship was definitely toxic. And ya, he was whipped.
Spot on. Tammy was the obsessed one. IMO I think she stalked Heather either in real life or social media or both & with Heather's noticeable weight gain assumed she was pregnant by Sydney. Ans that alone took her right over the edge. She made Sydney get a pregnancy test to confirm it by meeting with Heather that night. And when it came out positive either Tammy showed up to help him murder Heather or made her spineless husband do it alone and hide her remains.
I'm not condoning anyone who pursues a relationship with someone whose currently married. Just knowing they would do this to their partner should tell the person your most likely next in line to be cheated on. Once you start a relationship as the "other"woman, you will never be the only woman. Love & lust makes us do stupid things but it certainly isn't a mistake deserving of a death sentence in my opinion, but why was Heather the only one vilified? Seems to me Sydney, her balless husband should of been held accountable for some of Tammy's fury. Had he kept it in his pants & stuck with his marriage vows it wouldn't of happened to begin with.
Those 2 POS have got to think the rest of the world is totally stupid to believe their pleas of innocence. I can't believe Tammy let her jealousy & rage jeopardize her kids left to be orphaned as they rot in jail.
Sadly Heather's family are the ones serving a life sentence of no knowing where their daughter's remains are. And to me, that proves just how unfair life can really be sometimes.
Yeah but what did she say? If he slept with 100 women she wouldn't care??
Never, ever, ever get between a couple who have an abusive relationship. They will always turn on you _together_ and make you pay for interfering (as they see it). I wish this lesson was learned, but we keep seeing cases like this.
How is she insecure for not wanting her husband to stick his dick in other women?
By being a coward, a liar, and unfaithful, he lost everything.
His freedom and family are destroyed.
Never invite a married person into your private life.
@@keithdrummond1003 he was controlled by his wife
So he killed Heather after the pregnancy test he purchased had revealed she was indeed pregnant. That’s sick. He not only killed Heather but their baby too. I truly hope her remains are found. Why dont the police just check his phone location that night?
Possibly, we don't know if she was preggers, no body found yet... But yea, you are right, they likely did not want to pay child support so they killed her. Also her weight gain was crazy, went from cute to fat real fast, likely pregnant. The pics of her learning to drive a stick shift, damn, easily 40lbs heavier than any other picture they showed. Even on her missing fliers they had her at 5'1" 110lbs when she was easily 150ish when she went missing...
They said the phone was shut off at the boat launch area. While it is widely suspected modern phones can still broadcast such info even when you turn it off, it is pretty unlikely a phone from 2013 did that.
It's so amazing how Tammy went on that rant about her family being stalked & terrorized by Heather's father, especially considering the tremendous amount of bullying, harrassment, and terrorizing she herself did to that poor girl. Not to mention the fact she and her lapdog hubby kidnapped & murdered her. May they rot in peace after a long, long time in prison.
I feel bad for their kids. Their dad was an idiot who led his life dick first while their mother was a manipulative, domineering harpy. Here's hoping the Maurer kids can lead some sort of normal life after all this.
Also, I hope Heather's family finds some peace & comfort in this life as well, and that Heather is, for now, resting in peace.
You’ve said it exactly like it is. Thank you for putting my thoughts into words
Couldn't have said it any better..
Uuugh... MAYBE HEATHER SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN AN UNREMORSEFUL HOMEWRECKER
@@professionaltrollgirl2682 So you’re saying that murder is an appropriate response to dealing with a “homewrecker”? Didn’t Tammy say she didn’t care where Sydney put his d!ick since they had an open marriage and she had boyfriend of her own for TWO YEARS?! So which is it… was Heather a homewrecker? Or was she “just a hoe” exactly like Tammy was??? 😂
*Moorer
It’s so glaringly obvious that they killed her
Heather should not have gotten with Sydney knowing he was married but how is Tammy only blaming Heather, Sydney is a lot more to blame than Heather. I don’t understand why did Heather keep calling Sydney on that pay phone and then went out I’m presuming to see him?
She was pregnant with his child.
Never, ever get involved with a married person. NO MATTER WHAT. It’s never a good idea.
This guy was controlled by his wife he was probably looking for a way out now she screwed his entire life up
Sidney and Tammy are depraved and despicable creatures. Heather was young and naive and Sidney should have stayed the hell away from her. She did nothing to deserve being murdered and disposed of like garbage.
No, but she was a bit of a cretin.
not so naive, running around f*ucking married men lol... so "independent"
I dont think they will ever admit to what they did with Heather
Which is sad. 😢 I hate him for not stepping away and leaving her alone either he wanted to be with her… I know it’s never ok. He isn’t innocent. I know he did something to her like Tammy did 😢
Womp womp
"I look 20."
Is that 20 in turtle years?
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Maybe dog years😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
lol 😂
Why she went out in the early hours of the morning to meet that creep is baffling. I just want to scream at her and tell her what a bad decision she’s making and not to go. It’s very frustrating when young people make such bad and silly decisions that will cause them their lives. RIP Heather, it’s so sad for her and her family ❤
She was probably pregnant and felt she had ttalk to him...she probably wanted to keep it too.
@@blacknight2149but she knew how crazy Tammy was, she literally expressed how scared she was of Tammy but she went knowing this will trigger Tammy
She missed the D
Because she was being "manipulated " and "groomed". 😒
@Baehobie he probably lied to her about Tammy being there, made up some story and tricked her. He knew what to say to her and manipulate her. It's really not hard to imagine what was going through her head, especially since she was likely pregnant. She needed to talk to him about her pregnancy and trusted him to not bring Tammy along with him. Sadly she was wrong. At least these murderers are in jail.
Never mess around with a married man or woman because you don’t know how their partner will react.
Don't mess around with anyone married because it's an amoral thing to do.
Watch the movie Butterfly on a wheel
My cousin went missing for 5 days and it was torture. We finally found his body in a pond* but it was closure. I couldnt imagine suffering for years or forever without answers. This family deserves to lay her to rest. What inhumane people. I understand they cant tell because it would screw their chances of appeals but I hope when they exhaust them they tell this family where their daughter is.
Heather was at a stage in life where one tends to make bad decisions, the other two monsters were adults, one is a coward with aspirations to be a heartthrob and the other is a psychopath. Every time I see an update on this case I hope that they have found the body, for her family and for these two to be charged with murder (as they should have been from the beginning)... they know it well, and that's why they keep their mouths shut.
Heather was not a child. Which means she was an adult too. I love how you tried to pass over that fact in your comment. 🙄
@@GrandTime-17 Legally, she was an adult, but at 20 one does not have the same maturity or experience as at 40 (and just to be clear, under no circumstances do I endorse relationships of this type)... although, as has been seen, those two were almost 40 and their brains only had garbage.
@@Klara-Hvar You are correct. Have a good evening. 😊
@@GrandTime-17 You too.
She was also an adult? And clearly a bad one. She doesn’t deserve murder but she was still a horrible person who is fully responsible for her selfish choices.
If murder is an acceptable and predictable outcome due to an affair, why wasn't the husband murdered?
The husband is the one who made vows...
The husband is the one who broke those vows...
Heather didn't owe Tammy anything other than an appology.
Considering how it ended, the perpetrators should not be afforded any sympathy...unless of course you identify with psychotic weirdos who terrorised then murdered a 20 year old...
I don't think anyone's said that murder is an acceptable outcome of an affair, have they?
@@eadweard. Way to miss the point...
@@Agencetourix You'd need to be more specific really.
Well said 👏🏻👏🏻
@eadweard. people are saying in these comments 'what did she expect?' Which implies that if you sleep with a married guy, you should indeed expect to be murdered
I cant understand anyone willingly engaging with a married person
I have never had a married man who is interested in me tell me he is married.
maybe they didn't want you
Do all relationship that begin this way end up this way? No. Do you want to be the one who find out how bad it can get? Nothing is worth being killed for or dying over.
I can only imagine Heather's family's pain of not knowing what happened to her, my heart goes out to them 😢
and Tammy will never tell them where the body is... they will find out that Heather was really pregnant.. and possibly that it was Sidney's baby.
I've never heard of this case, so sad for Heather and her family. Yes she made poor decisions but she was just a young lassie, I'm sure lots of us have done things we're not proud of when we were young and daft without life experience. I don't think they'll ever tell what really happened and where Heather is, because Tammy hated Heather and hates her family, and Sidney is so submissive he would never go against his wife. Another brilliant episode, thank you ladies! 🙂
Exactly! She was too young to realise what a dangerous position she was in. As for him, he’s to blame because as the elder in their “relationship” he should have known better. Sickening to think he exploited her like that and to then torture her further throwing insults at her with him and his wife- bullying a young lass like that is just absolutely sickening. They absolutely murdered her and those charges shouldn’t have ever been dropped
I agree with everything except that Sidney would never go against his wife, since he had an affair in the first place
This is an old case
@@rubix1651Wrong! She was old enough to know EXACTLY what it is to commit ADULTERY! Ain't NO woman...I don't care if she is a teenager, stupid enough to know that you DON'T mess with married men
@user-gb7qb3rq8p No, you shouldn't mess with married men. She made a terrible error of judgement although she was very young and I can't say that I didn't do really stupid things at her age. No matter what, she didn't deserve to be hurt, to be murdered. Nobody deserves that.
Tammy has those crazy eyes. Too bad they couldn’t work out a plea deal with Sydney because my guess is Tammy was the mastermind since Sydney seemed to be submissive and probably scared of Tammy. RIP to Heather and hugs for her family. 😢
Tammy is def the main driver behind the murder
My heart goes out Heather, and her family. RIP Heather.❤
What heather ever saw in that guy is the real mystery
Seriously. Him and his Mr Ed fake teeth. He was just dingy, creepy guy
@@skel760 Mr Ed teeth 🤣🤣
And his wife was so homely! She is very unattractive!
South Carolina has a lot of gators. That's probably how they've hidden her body. They fed it to gators. What a despicable couple. RIP, Heather.
I first discovered this case on a different true crime channel and it's cases like this that really get to me because the victim is never found. Not knowing what happened and not having the body brought home to the family is absolutely heartbreaking.
I've seen it on true crime daily first too.
What could POSSIBLY go wrong when you have an affair with a MARRIED MAN IN A WORLD OF UNSTABLE PEOPLE??!!
AND FYI TO THOSE INEXPERIENCED IN RELATIONSHIPS; IF SOMEONE MARRIED TELLS YOU THEY ARE IN A "UNHAPPY" MARRIAGE TELL THEM TO LOOK YOU UP WHEN THEY ARE DIVORCED!! BECAUSE THAT IS ONE OF THE OLDEST TACTICS IN THE BOOK!!
Wise words!!
Nowhere did I see that Heather was Experienced in relationships. And even if she was They were both grown adults. You're a special kinda stupid if you th8nk that her death was in any way her fault. RIP sweet, beautiful Heather and may Tammy and her punk ass botch rot in hel....l
Being in an "unhappy" marriage is far worse for your kids! ASK MINE! They don't want to pay child support or lose half! But when theygive YOU THIS LINE//.. IT IS JUST SO THEY CAN HAVE THEIR CAKE AND EAT IT TOO!! @@v3le
Dude she was 20. Cut her slack
People are starting to say what I thought for years, I see. the world is full of unstable people.
“They kept the Christmas tree up and her presents are waiting for her” 😢🥺
There is never an excuse to cheat. If you aren't happy in your relationship, then break up.
Yeah, cuz every situation and scenario is just that easy or simple. That is a very ignorant, judgemental take on situations you clearly know nothing of.
@@chattahuffman5117 found the cheater lol
Tammy said multiple times she had her own boyfriend too.
@@chattahuffman5117it’s not easy and it takes time and a plan but u should leave. I was married 15 yrs I knew at 11 yrs I had to go I finally but things in place 4 yrs later and left . There was no cheating ..
You can think cheating is wrong and still not try to imply that it’s justification for murder.
Sadly, Heather's family are the ones serving a much harsher life sentence without Heather or knowing where her remains are.
I've seen this case on a couple of other true crime channels, and this is absolutely the best one. Great job 👍
I cannot wrap my brain around the way people handle situations sometimes. Like, if your husband refuses to stop cheating, you leave. You don’t kill his mistress. Also in like 5 years she won’t even care about Sydney anymore. Would it all have been worth it then? The crassness of it all.
This case stills haunts me to this day. The pain, and heartache these parents have endured all of this time is brutal, and agonizing. And, poor Heather. She didn't deserve any of this. My heart breaks for the family, especially her parents. I've had to bury a child, so I feel every ounce of what you're going through.
Moral of the story . Don’t sleep with married men and post it all over social media.
Fr these comments are pathetic anybody who feels bad for Heather is a dope
Don't sleep with married men!
Honestly nobody really knows how crazy any person is, people are walking around like there's no consequences. I watch too much true crime to mess around.
@@cjvaye99I find it hard to find her likeable!!!
@@cjvaye99So you think because of words on a piece of paper that they are married means that Heather deserved to be murdered?
After enough torturing, I’m sure those two would tell you what they did with that poor girl. We should treat monsters like them with no compassion.
That’s what I was thinking, they would have spoken under torture
Torture is not only unethical and illegal under the Geneva convention 1984, it's also useless because people will confess to anything under torture, even things they haven't done.
Torture as a method for obtaining information is inherently flawed because there is no way to tell if the subject possesses the desired knowledge. Thus if the subject denies to give the information it is assumed they are not yet broken, and once they are broken they will say anything to make the torture end.
@@polaide8036it's obvious the husband & wife committed this murder. Did you not watch the video & see all the evidence? Yeah, torture isn't good, but this case would be a great exception because there would be a result...they would either tell where the body is, or how they destroyed it.
Confessions under torture can usually be verified. Sydney and or Tammy would crack and blame the other. Torture works well with codefendents.
Maybe they should take a page out of Walker, Texas Ranger. Where Chuck Norris tells the main bad guy the other guy spilled the beans on him and they know everything and this is his last chance to come clean. This works 100% of the time on the show no matter how tough the bad guy was prior.@@FedupwitDC
Looks like a bunch of bad decisions from everybody involved. A complete shitshow
so many of these murders are. the victims are usually unstable and into things that can get you hurt, killed, or put in jail
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You did a fabulous job on the details for this video
The devastation on the father's face broke my heart. My condolences to Heather's family and loved ones.
There is only one hateful, spiteful and evil person in all of this and it’s Tammy…you were living with her!! RIP Heather ❤
heather is no angel. she slept around with a married man. I would say that's pretty evil. It's actually a sin. It's called adultery. And no, her being young is not an excuse.
I wish Heather would had gone to the police & made a report when Tammy first started attacking her. It’s sad & pathetic Tammy acted like a CHILD! Attacking & belittling a young woman is disgusting. She should have put all that energy on leaving Sydney & growing up.
You wish Heather would have gone to the police, not "of went"!
Since the grammar police is out and about: “literal child” Tammy morphed into a pubescent girl? Tammy acted like a child would be best.
I don’t think you understand what a psychopath is.
@@dazediss6629 oh I do…
The police would've done nothing if Heather had gone to them.
Poor Heather. Tammy and Sydney are evil incarnate. Yes Heather had an affair with a married man but she was moving on and didn't deserve to be murdered. Poor Heather's family. My heart breaks for them.
She wasn’t moving on, she was going through the motions. Heather NEVER should have met this dude at 1 am. That’s both crazy and suicidal.
@@randomkeirI’m actually wondering why did she keep calling him on that pay phone and then went to meet him at night. Knowing how crazy Tammy was behaving in the past, wasn’t she moving on from all this?
She was sleeping with somebody else’s husband..
@@Baehobie she was pregnant with his child and he probably tell her that he can take care of the baby, and end up kidnapping her and kill both heather and her baby. Heather most likely don't want anyone else to know that shes pregnant with Sidney kid.
Ruined a marraige and wasa tramp. Karma
She did put herself in that position. Calling yourself angel while shacking married man… she didn’t deserve to die but she sure as hell wasn’t a good person
You made a good point. However, even though adultery is a sin, murder is a quantum leap in sinning. Heather didn't deserve her fate, despite her faults.
@tobeexcite
Man makes that distinction - to silence his conscience evidently. But to the Lord sin is sin. Telling a lie, promiscuity, theft, being jealous, cheating on tests, drug use, drunkenness, taking His name in vain, using curse words, adultery, homosexuality, sex with minors, disrespect towards parents and elders, murder, hate and so on. In fact if you hate someone it's considered the same as murder. There's no clearer example that every sin is as heinous as the other. To our detriment we've forsaken this truth.
tammy had a bf for years and an open marriage.. those were her words. why blame heather? sydney knew what he was doing!
Rip Heather. No one deserves what she went through. Some people are really evil
LMAO the Tammy tattoo 😂. That guy is a fool 🤡
A totAl coward
He’s such a whipped loser, and Tammy is demonic.
He could easily turn that "A" into an "O" if he finds a prison wife named Tommy😂
Yes, that is the response that men get when it is revealed that they are the victim of domestic violence...do your research.
@@patricia-fz8et Exactly. If the gender roles were reversed everyone would 💩their brain out of their ears
It’s always best to just leave married men alone.
The same could be said for anything that we know we’re not supposed to do. Don’t over eat, don’t smoke don’t drink anddrive. Regardless when you do indulge you shouldn’t be punished with your life.
And always
@@Everybody_Say_Love yes, but like this person's advice, it's always best to leave married men alone.
@@Everybody_Say_Love What a stupid thing to say wrecking a marriage and over eating etc. are on the same level of misconduct.
@@rudolfgunther5304 exactly, what's her point. I could say, I don't know... don't stare at leaves on a deciduous tree in autumn. WTF?
@@Everybody_Say_Love Overeating can kill you. Smoking can kill you. Driving drunk can kill you....
And what do you know, sleeping with married men can kill you too. Your comment is pointless. When you "indulge" you are quite often punished with your life. If you want a long and healthy life then stay away from habitual overindulgence.
This happened about 1&1/2 hours from me . We put up some fliers at stores/gas stations on Hwy 17N . Trucks and and cars had them plastered in their windows all over the state. Everyone knew fairly early that Tammy & Sidney were involved . Without signs of life , I don’t understand why they can’t be charged with murder. If they’ve been convicted of kidnapping her, that’s the next obvious step.
This happened in my town. My sister was in jail briefly with POS Tammy. My sisters boyfriend was in jail with Sydney. Police should have used them as informants to extract information from them
@@oldpunker885 Seriously! Tammy scares me more than Sydney .🧌
@@justanothersmith6012 Tammy was definitely the puppet master. Total relentless psychopath.
She looks bitter and dangerous yikes scary monster
Because you can’t charge someone with murder if there’s no body, and if they did then if a body was found they couldn’t be trialed again sue to double jeopardy iirc
I really enjoy this ch. so much. Your voice is amazing & soothing to hear. And with many cases you divulge information I never heard about via other TC ch’s. As well as pics. I didn’t know that Heather’s friends were calling /pretending to be Tammy etc. Perhaps they were trying to help her to defuse the situation before it got too crazy? Anyway, I always enjoy your episodes. Thx👍
Are we really gonna let slide the fact that Heather helped Sydney cheat and announced it on Facebook/Tumblr. No normal person does that.
You can see the deep routed bitterness in the wifes face
Indeed. The hate is oozing out of her pores
@@AllergicToFantasywas an early wall
Facts, those sorts you typically can. Their face wreaks of it. Poor kid, she was 20 years old and had a life ahead of her. May they never get out of prison. 🤍🙏🏼
the young woman was messing with her kids by wanting to be their nanny and though she said it was sydney's idea, I doubt it. sydney probably knew his wife would never allow such a young pretty woman to live with them - especially if she was from the same town and then moved to the new town.
Poor Heather. Naive and young. I hope she is found one day and send my love to her family❤
Not possible....bones would be collapsed to dust under the water
This is heartbreaking. Her family needs her back. As a mother I don't know how you go on not knowing where your missing child is.💔
Where was the family when she dated married man? Why they didn't stopped her? Didn't talked? They see posts on twitter. They knew nothing beautiful will happen with much older married man
Sindey, goes publicly states things like, "we and us". Tammy goes publicly and says, "me, my, and I"....
Thats says a lot.
I’ve watched every video on this case and it’s heart breaking , she was taken advantage of and manipulated by a much much older man and EVERY ounce of evidence points directly at Sydney and Tammy , but with no body they keep getting off. I read a comment from a fisherman that loves by the boat ramp saying there are Gators everywhere in there , that it eould take virtually no effort or time before gators would take anything moving in the water that time of night and a gator would be the easiest way to make someone disappear , a lot of theories are the same where we know they met her at the ramp and she wasn’t seen again. It’s so sad that Florida is one of those few states that regardless of eveidence can’t give a murder conviction without a body. We know it was them, and I think truly it was the crazy wife, he was infatuated with her and friends of his say he’s one of the nicest guys but anyone that knows Tammy says she’s insane and she did threaten death to Heather multiple time and knowing she’s was pregnant with his baby that’s surely push her over the edge but he definelty played a part. Breaks my heart as a father of daughters
System is a joke
I can never understand why, when a husband cheats on a wife, the other woman gets vilified. She, the other woman, is not the one who made the vow to be faithful and is usually relying on what the husband is telling her when deciding whether or not to get involved.
That does not give you a free pass to screw around with a Married man. I'm in no way siding with the 2 losers, however she knew full well he was married and chose to lay down with him anyways.
I guess the other woman should just get a fucking cupcake then, huh? 🙄 You're ridiculous.
@@tapoemt3995of course it doesn't but the husband is the one who's stepped outside the marriage, he's the one who lied & cheated on his wife. I'm married & if my hubby ever had an affair my anger is purely towards him. I'll never understand why they go after the other person but often forgive their partner, once the trust is broken the marriage is over. Let's face it this young girl made a huge mistake getting involved with this POS, but he definitely manipulated her & the fact he was nearly 40 & she was only 20 make's both him & his wife disgusting by both their actions towards this girl.
Sorry but if the other woman KNOWS he’s married, she’s at fault too. He shouldn’t be trying to outside of his marriage but she shouldn’t be encouraging it either. Same goes for a married woman/single man dynamic
It still speaks to the morality of someone who knowingly sleeps with someone who is married...
They should never get out of prison.
“Always wanted to live to the fullest”. I don’t need to hear anything more.
Lmao, yea, these people. Why can't they ever just chill n be normal
Live to the fullest! And you pay a price you can't afford! You pay with your life or your freedom !
DO NOT MESS W/MARRIED MEN!
Married men shouldn't chase 20 yr olds..barely legal..
Well, yes, don't get involved with married men, but what gets me is, why do these men bother to get married in the first place if they want to chase after women all the time? Surely it would be much easier to remain single and chase as many women as possible???
The smugness of Sydney (and those crazy teeth!) Tammy is an embarrassment. If you’re at the point where you’re handcuffing your partner to a bed to ensure they don’t sneak out, you need to reevaluate your relationship. Tragic case.
That tattoo is nuttier than squirrel turds !!! I can smell the craziness and toxicity from Boston . Geez , this is a crazy tale . Great work by the way
His wife look at bat shit crazy
Total narcissistic borderline pyscho wife it was only ever going to end badly
@@dianeshannon7988 YUP! It doesn't "set the mood" for normalcy whatsoever
@BostonShovingstuff I agree that narcissistic request screams he is her possession I suspect he is being abused so sought solicitor outside the toxic marriage messy allround
You might be smelling boston
This is why you don’t f**k around with married people . There’s billions of people out there find a different one.
That's a really hateful thing to say. This isn't about you and your husband who's cheated on you, that's exactly what you sound like.😂
Married men shouldn't chase 20 year olds..
@@BlissGallant been a mistress once or twice? Why take offense? Play with fire, get burned
Exactly!!!
@@Raw_Rootsbut you as a single 20yr old also have the ability to stay away! I have heard way too many stories of married men killing their side pieces it it not worth your life!
Well that was messy. 😢 Boggles my mine that I don’t hear not one talk of restraining orders. She kept going back and forth with them. That’s crazy.
I'm thinking she didn't want to be exposed to family and friends. She esp. probably didn't want her dad to find out about this relationship with a married older man. She was in a scary mess and wasn't thinking clearly.
They should put them both in solitary confinement until they give up where they put the girl. We've got to stop catering to criminals in this country because it's just getting worse. In this case it's so cruel to the parents it's unbelievable. And yet this unholy mess of a woman.
was up on the stand crying about how she was being taken away from HER CHILDREN , because of "all this"
Getting involved with someone who is married, especially knowingly will more often than not always end in violence.
It’s just so frustrating that they can charge them with kidnapping but not her murder! Obviously if they did kidnapped her they murdered her!
I think she met up with that loser bc he tricked her and his psycho wife kept her hostage while he bought the pregnancy test then it was positive so they killed her!
Maybe one day the guilt of what he did will make him say what he did with Heathers body. From what I’ve seen on this vid abt his wife she will NEVER break bc she’s a psychopath! What kind of person handcuffs their husband to their bed to keep him from sneaking out?
That really says a lot abt her!
RIP Heather you got some justice but not enough. I really hope her parents will some day get some answers and bring her home.
It really makes me sick to c that these monsters didn’t get tried for murder I just hope they both have to stay in prison for the entire 30 years!! I hope they’re both suffering EVERY DAY in prison!!!
Kept her hostage?
There are ways to get people to talk even someone like that’s crazy woman. But the legal system won’t do it because it’s not civilized. As for the husband I think all you would have to do is threaten to do something to him and he would talk. IMO
@@eadweard.Speculation that may have happened
Here's a PSA tip for everyone in a relationship.... *IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU "HAVE TO" HANDCUFF YOUR S/O TO THE BED AT NIGHT TO INSURE THEY DON'T GO OUT & FIND THEIR BOOTIE CALL.... THERE IS NO RELATIONSHIP TO SAVE!!! THEY NO LONGER LOVE YOU!! YOU'RE NOT THE ONE!!! THERE'S NO TRUST! TRUST IS THE FOUNDATION & WITHOUT A SOLID FOUNDATION, IT'S BOUND TO CRUMBLE!* And add to that forcing them to get a tattoo with the other persons name, change their password so ONLY THE OTHER PERSON KNOWS IT, have the other person followed (keeping tabs on 'em) screen their calls, dictate what they wear, where they work, when they work and where they go.... It's OVER! Pack your bags and leave! *YOU'RE NOT THE ONE!!!*
You're right but it's pointless explaining it to a narcissistic psychopath like Tammy, unfortunately. They can't function based on reason. She threw a tantrum and lashed out like a 4-year-old who is completely unable to regulate her emotions. These kinds of people are extremely dangerous and there is no reasoning with them.
how do we know he was handcuffed? Did sydney tell the young woman that?
Happy Saturday everyone!
This case is tragic. Everyone involved was wrong on some level. It is sad it had to escalate the way it did.
I was watching TV one day, years ago, and the news came on. The lead story was about a child who had gone missing while out playing. Someone in the family said 'the kid's probably dead'. She must have seen the look on my face, because she looked at me and said' Look: once they've been gone 24 hours, they normally are. You'll see'.
Sadly, she wasn't wrong. Usually, once they've been missing overnight, they normally end up dead. You'll see.
The grass isn't always greener on the other side of the fence. 😢 just say NO and thank God for unanswered prayers 🙏 ❤
I am constantly impressed with your writing and narration on this channel.
This tragic story has been told plenty of time,but TC told Heather's side instead of belittling the young girl.
RIP Heather, but at 20 you know it’s wrong to mess around with someone knowing they are married, she wasn’t that young to not know the consequences. Now her poor family is suffering and grieving their child. This case is heartbreaking, she definitely didn’t deserve punishment that great.
Why but, the poor girls not around anymore let her rest with out saying she was 20 and should have known better to mess around with a married man, no one deserves being killed, it takes two to tango plus don't judge this girl or the situation, it's not right and she's not here to defend herself.
Rest with the Angels Heather x ♥️ 💓 ❤
Your missed her loved very much Xxx
@sarahjane4701 yeah,that's basically what I said.
What an utterly tragic story. Thank you for your excellent coverage as always.
Young woman having an affair with a married older man is a recipe for disaster. Naive girl couldn't see she was just being used
The dark side of getting with someone that’s married, you never know who’s on the other side of that marriage. Poor girl found out who the real devil was in her Angel and Devil love story.
“Believe me, I had the friends to make me _that kind of girl_ , but I didn’t do it.”
Perhaps the most incriminating thing she said. This is textbook cognitive dissonance. “I could have been in the NBA but I wanted to be an insurance broker so I turned it down.”
That's also some textbook manipulative, powerplay NPD talk right there. (Narcissistic Personality Disorder)
She was such a fool to fall for such a creep. It is so sad she lost her life over him. Her Twitter history is crazy. What could she possibly have seen in him?
Even crazier is that Sidney stayed with his ham hock of a wife instead of developing a relationship with Heather, all three of them were nuts apparently...
I hate to say it but this case FRUSTRATED me because of that, I'm so sick of these naive young girls glamorizing "relationships" with these creepy loser older men. Like sure any gal will be attracted to a nice DILF but that doesn't mean you need to try and act on it... Much less when said loser is MARRIED! I'm a mother and I can't imagine how ashamed I would be knowing that my daughter got herself involved with these weirdos. Such a sad waste of a life - I really don't want to be judgmental but someone really should have steered that girl a little harder in the right direction. It seems like her best friend was very mature in giving her advice about it too.
Only for lust I guess, nothing serious, she is away from her family, she felt lonely.
@@joebauers3746exactly they were all nuts/bad/scum in their own way. Clearly Tammy was the worst by faaaar but each person was crap in their own way.
That said NOOO WAY Heather deserved this
like I said before... everyone in this story is a nut job
Wow, great coverage of this case, ladies. Glad some sort of justice prevailed; just wish her family had her body to lay to rest.
Anyhow, enjoy the rest of your weekend!
Warm, popular, well-liked, free spirited, loving art, smiles, loving life blabla, this bullshit really gets old, it is in all of the beginnings of these movies, after which they get killed brutally. It's always the most talented, skilled and most loved people so it seems.
I mean this is just a perfect example of why you shouldn't mess with married men. Seemed like she was proud of it too posting it online and stuff.
For the religious out there, there's a saying: God will never send you someone else's partner. Think about that. And for both the religious and non-religious, be logical: If someone who is married is approaching you, something is WRONG with them! Don't be flattered, be insulted! They're not offering you their best.
And so you think it's alright they killed her??
@@shannonosaile2137 The victim blaming in this comment section is off the charts. Probably a lot of incels out and about.
@@shannonosaile2137 Where in his comment does he say "it's alright they killed her" ?
Exactly, leave the married men and women alone. Nothing good will come of it.
God ain’t real