@@markgriz Yeah you are right. 8/10 the nitrogen charge leaks out the schrader valve. We allways refill them with either expansion tank filler, wich is nitrogen + some oily stuff to keep the rubber diaphragm inside and the valve happy, or compressed air (and add 21% extra because the oxygen part of the air will diffuse through the diaphragm into the water side). I also found that it helps to push the schrader valve open a few times to make ist seal again. Next thing: We install the tanks so that the water side and pipe (rising from boiler return to exp. tank) is on the bottom and the air/nitrogen side is facing up. So if the diaphragm leaks its not loosing its charge and any gas in the system actually adds to the charge. They usually last 20-30 years that way if they dont rust thru. Or are they just that much cheaper to replace in the USA? Tank replacement of a 35L(10 gal) Tank costs around 70-100$ (60-80€) here. Refilling just adds 10-15$ to the maintenance bill
@@0123-v1o same where I leave, and is some tanks u can actually change the diaphragm, but from the few years that I lived in the us looks like it’s more of a norm to directly change the whole thing than repairing in many sectors not only plumbing.
Good vid Steve. When he pays the bill - call him up ask if he was happy with the service and if so, ‘do you want me to put you in my diary for boiler servicing?’😉👍
Just had a new American Standard 80% eff. A/C and furnace put it and they reused the old line sets . Should he have pulled a vacuum? I no the condenser and case coil are precharged . This new furnace sounds like a jet engine! I only have 13 degrees across the coil .
You need 15deg super heat and did you take out a R22 job honestly the piping should have been changed R22 is mineral oil the new stuff is synthetic not comparable there may be some oil left over
Why the relief tank is bad? Can’t u add some air and check if it’s leaking through the valve? How possible is the that the rubber has allready been destroyed? Wouldn’t normally water come out for the air if it was bad??
@@barackobama5304 if there is no water coming out when u check the air the tank is 100% good, and is normal after years of using it to loose air something that should be checked at least a year and add air if is low( and check the air valve). I m not aware of expansion tanks that don’t have a rubber diaphragm inside but only ones that have in different shape and type whether they are for closed heating circuit or hot water or drinking water.
@@angelossakellariou2832 watch some of Steve’s videos when he’s working on an old school boiler with a barrel shaped tank strapped to the bottom of the floor joists. Those don’t have a diaphragm. They just rely on the natural air pocket that develops.
@@erikj.2066 ah yes you are right, I thought nobody uses them anymore cause even though they dont have diaphragm or bladder to go wrong they destroy the rest of the circuit since they produce corrosion as the air comes in contact with the water. Similar to open tank system they used years ago in my country which was placed on the roof.... never go bad it self but the rest of the system.....
Steve your an honest straight up guy and your old-school you know your shit when you retire you should consider getting a little teaching job part time so you can teach thes kids that wanna be a real plumber how they need to be when it comes to knowing your shit and show them all the little old-school tricks that are slowly being forgotten about and hey maybe you can show them how to be successful and not lie and cheat their customers not many people have the skill to actually teach people the right way to do things in this business you would be great at it
Extra points to technicians put dates on equipment and parts that they install, as they are thinking of the guy who comes after them.
Thanks for the Saturday shitshow Steven.
Wow, i wish i had someone like Steve where i live.
Your business stickers are a great touch, also the cards that you write out and attach.
Amazing job Steven 👍
Afternoon Steve and “Miss Molly”!
How are those expansion tanks so weak? I have a similar one, I think it's pushing 15 years soon. I don't have an automatic feeder though.
@@markgriz Yeah you are right. 8/10 the nitrogen charge leaks out the schrader valve. We allways refill them with either expansion tank filler, wich is nitrogen + some oily stuff to keep the rubber diaphragm inside and the valve happy, or compressed air (and add 21% extra because the oxygen part of the air will diffuse through the diaphragm into the water side). I also found that it helps to push the schrader valve open a few times to make ist seal again.
Next thing: We install the tanks so that the water side and pipe (rising from boiler return to exp. tank) is on the bottom and the air/nitrogen side is facing up. So if the diaphragm leaks its not loosing its charge and any gas in the system actually adds to the charge.
They usually last 20-30 years that way if they dont rust thru.
Or are they just that much cheaper to replace in the USA? Tank replacement of a 35L(10 gal) Tank costs around 70-100$ (60-80€) here. Refilling just adds 10-15$ to the maintenance bill
@@0123-v1o same where I leave, and is some tanks u can actually change the diaphragm, but from the few years that I lived in the us looks like it’s more of a norm to directly change the whole thing than repairing in many sectors not only plumbing.
Yea I always use just air
Your ok just keep the air charge the same as the water pressure no sweat
why not just add more air pressure to the expansion tank?
Good vid Steve. When he pays the bill - call him up ask if he was happy with the service and if so, ‘do you want me to put you in my diary for boiler servicing?’😉👍
Nice job and video like always ( Steven )
Hey Steve how are you and Molly doing Hope you’re having a good day I’m still watching from South Jersey keep up the good work
LPI floor joists, must be fairly new house
Hey Steve and Miss Molly, workin’ again! Hope you’re having a great weekend! 👍👍. That’s a crusty one mama!
Looking for all thoughts and ideas for running Jet A in my boiler. I get it for free at work and guys there have use it quite a while.
after 5 years of use and it had 2lbs of pressure couldn't you have pumped it up to 12lbs if water didn't exit the Schrader valve?
Steve needed lunch money
That was my exact thought too.
How do you like that Buderus equipment?
@@barackobama5304 That's the installer, not the system's fault.
Just had a new American Standard 80% eff. A/C and furnace put it and they reused the old line sets . Should he have pulled a vacuum? I no the condenser and case coil are precharged . This new furnace sounds like a jet engine! I only have 13 degrees across the coil .
You need 15deg super heat and did you take out a R22 job honestly the piping should have been changed R22 is mineral oil the new stuff is synthetic not comparable there may be some oil left over
With reusing the old piping absolutely
Nice to see german quality products from Buderus
10:10 No comments yet about the "Smurf Jizz'm mama"?hahahah
Why the relief tank is bad? Can’t u add some air and check if it’s leaking through the valve? How possible is the that the rubber has allready been destroyed? Wouldn’t normally water come out for the air if it was bad??
@@barackobama5304 if there is no water coming out when u check the air the tank is 100% good, and is normal after years of using it to loose air something that should be checked at least a year and add air if is low( and check the air valve). I m not aware of expansion tanks that don’t have a rubber diaphragm inside but only ones that have in different shape and type whether they are for closed heating circuit or hot water or drinking water.
@@angelossakellariou2832 watch some of Steve’s videos when he’s working on an old school boiler with a barrel shaped tank strapped to the bottom of the floor joists.
Those don’t have a diaphragm. They just rely on the natural air pocket that develops.
@@erikj.2066 ah yes you are right, I thought nobody uses them anymore cause even though they dont have diaphragm or bladder to go wrong they destroy the rest of the circuit since they produce corrosion as the air comes in contact with the water. Similar to open tank system they used years ago in my country which was placed on the roof.... never go bad it self but the rest of the system.....
Steve your an honest straight up guy and your old-school you know your shit when you retire you should consider getting a little teaching job part time so you can teach thes kids that wanna be a real plumber how they need to be when it comes to knowing your shit and show them all the little old-school tricks that are slowly being forgotten about and hey maybe you can show them how to be successful and not lie and cheat their customers not many people have the skill to actually teach people the right way to do things in this business you would be great at it
@16:40. Man!, you got a lot of certifications!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏
I rarely ever find boiler tridicators to be accurate. Most of them are stuck!
There stuck or shit
IBS=Irrational Boiler System 😄
Steve's the sticker bandit now! lol
Steve the sticker bandit yea every thing has a sticker after while it looks like yankee stadium lol
Lmao 🤣🤣 smerf jizzom
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I want some stickers, Steve, haha just kidding.
stickers? free.....like some one we know? free shipping 2.......lmao
we love them both.....SL great plumber, honest old school folk. Stay safe
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Steve you see a lot of taco there
Takin care of biznez
Undesized tanks will not last as long. Inadequate ability to handle expansion
You need a 60.
You can only do so much until the problem shows itself.
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Stay safe.
Retired(werk'n) keyboard super tech.
Wear your safety glasses.
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