Bird 2 scooter step by step conversion (?Decommissioned Scooter ) ! Links in Description 👇👇
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- Опубліковано 23 тра 2024
- 1. bird 2 scooter controller (350W) ( controller alone ) -36v 350w Brushless-
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2. Bird 2 Controller With display
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3. 6 color wire kit
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4. Push buttons headlight+taillight 12v
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5.-solder- flux 1.8 0.6mm 100 G
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6. Heat shrink kit
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7. electrical tape
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8. Soldering gun kit Adjust and control your own heat settings
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9. Multi Meter/volt reader
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10. Torx bit set -for security screws -
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11. He’vy duty flat head screwwdriver
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12. 36-48v stepdown converter
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13. Resistor kit -30 ohm for headlight-In this case the 33 ohm will do just fine..
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14.scooter charger/adapter
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15. 40 piece socket set If you don’ have this already
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16. step drill bit set
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And of corse a drill gun
Everything I listed Is fairly cheap and dam near close to next day shipping !! Its also what u need to complete this task ..
Resistor u need Is a 30 ohm for the head light but in this kit above you will get a -verity pack -and for a very cheap price..you will only be using the 33 ohm resistor thats because It’s closer to the 30 ohm.
Your the man my friend… thank you for putting all these tutorials up let alone for free and always answering back whenever I have a question. I appreciate you. ✌🏻…NJ
Good afternoon my friend had another question for you, so I finally got into the scooter and I cut the GPS and battery plastic carrier out. I have two red wires, two black wires, a green or yellow in the blue where in the video yours has yellow red black and the blue wire twist it around the bottom of them. Any ideas? Please help lol!! And as always, thank you very much because without you, this wouldn’t be possible🫡
Great job most informative vid on the subject your a badass
Thank you...nice work.
It’s so ghetto I love it. Human ingenuity in session.
I learnt that these things are built just like a typical PEV ie: escooter but with extra stuff to track it and probably to monitor usage/pay and junk. Also, they are built like a tank. You could probably drop this 10 feet high and it’ll just run fine after which.
The battery part looks scary af. One wrong touch and poof ⚡️ your done for.
There a lot of take away here it’s so dope 👌🏼
Lol ayyyee thanks bro 😎! Yeah you definitely want to be careful when dealing with these battery packs I almost caused a fire because something I bought on Amazon was not what a claim to be And he caused an explosion.. but you’re absolutely right the schools are commercial grade and they can take a punch.. i’m always going off road Burning through his tires jumping off curves going through mud, heavy duty shit.. and I got to say these tires are truly puncture proof lol.. very reliable Scooter I can say… probably better than a scooter you would buy off-the-shelf 🤷♂️ just saying..
True that, I ain’t electronically inclined and if I attempt something like that, bad shit will most likely happen sooner or later imo.
Watched that vid where your step down dc to dc controller went poof and your burn out vids too lol.
Those bird models tho kinda looks like the new 2022 9bot GT models coming mid this year.
Very dope m8! GG 👌🏼 keep em coming boss
Awwwwwe I thought I was going to be the only one with the "ghetto" comment. 😂
Oh well I guess we can share.
Great video man
BAD ASS WORK KEEP IT UP IM GOIN TO TRY IT😮😂
🙌💪
You a savage for doing it on your bed...!!!
Can always use some hot glue to squirt on all those fragile soldering connections to keep them in place. I used that trick when modding Xboxes back in the day
Man that’s a lot of work. I have one in the backyard. I emailed Bird to pick it up, but they never did. Been sitting for two years.
lol I’ll take it off your hands. Wya?
Not sure you mention it in any of your vids, but the special screws they use for the 6 middle on the battery shell are m5 threads. I replaced mine with m5x10mm "cap" screws.
Hell yea great video man impressive work. Do you think you can post the link for the two connectors that you said were way too big?
So, what did you do when you pulled out the battery housing, is there a step you left out?
Hey man thanks for everything. I'm halfway through the build. One thing and I don't know is it just the iron or me but those weld sites a really hard to weld. I had to hot them with a torch.
I believe you’re using the wrong Solder ..
If you’re having to use a torch well then it sounds like you’re using plumbing solder.
Or if you purchased a soldering iron kit which included Solder will then that could also be your issue..that solder is cheap and useless
It’ll melt your wires From how hot you have to get the solder. Bad for the components as well. Are all of that heat for a long period of time will just cause damage.
Check this out !! it’s what I use .👇
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@@pjscootermods I'm on it. Thank you.
Hey man great video, how to wire up the step down converter. And what is its function?
Great work 👍 thank you! I got some questions: why don’t you solder a Y-plug to the main power plug? I did that for plugging the charging plug there, too. It works fine, cause charging through the old charging port does not work, caused by the bms… so it looks that you don’t use a display? How do you turn on the scooter? Did you put a main power switch between? And I don’t think that the solution for the light would be the best, because soldering on the controller’s board isn’t that easy. I prefer the step down solution by using a simple and small stepdown converter using the 36 Voltage of the battery itself…
Scooter doesn’t have an on off switch pretty much takes off when you give it throttle, this is one of the several ways to do this, I made other videos using zero display throttles, which comes with a throttle and display for speed and battery monitoring, it’s a little more expensive but it’s worth it ,I like the original look personally, another thing is one of those displays broke on me I simply drop the scooter and it snapped ! I had a melt it back together and then go around it with some electrical tape and then top it off with some zip ties, results were ugly at the end. I just didn’t like it at the end. Your scooter should charge like normal though !! Even without the output bypass scooter charges like normal through the original charging port
@@pjscootermods mine also no longer would charge through original charge port. It did the first go round, however after removing board in neck by LED ring it would not, assumed that was why, First time I tried plugging in it acted as throttle was being pressed and began spinning wheel. Wired a bypass into charge port and no issue now.
@@iMAGAmamba Yeah that’s strange bro !! But then again like you said maybe it has something to do with the LED ring , I have never had that issue but then again the bird 3 in your area have the LED ring light on the neck of the scooter , over here in my area they don’t ! so that could have something to do with it I’m guessing !! I haven’t took one of those apart yet at least not the one with the ring around the neck. But that’s good news to know for those who it applies to 💯
Appreciate the feedback
The sound quit early on any other vids explaining like this man did what to do
When you're seeing the wires in and getting the 5 V supply from inside the controller aren't there some controllers that already have a 5 V labeled coming out of it on the schematics of which wire does what that comes with it?
A lot of times it won’t tell you unless there’s instructions that come with the box, or if it’s labeled by the seller,But if you do have some connectors that are extra on your controller you can simply test your leads with a voltmeter meter and get your reading that way that’s how I do it! I only got up to 4.3 V when testing Wires, I already tried that, it needs 5v . It might work but it probably be very very dim
It would greatly appreciated homie
Funny as hell how long you wrestled that battery 😅. I just wanna say thanks for all the helpful videos, they have made my life easier. Just being honest, when you talk I can barely hear shit. I got a 250 dollar mic you can have, I'm being serious to .
Yo bro question for you which converter did you use and how do you turn it on and off after
yo brotha, so i got it all hooked up and i connected the green wire together and yes the back wheel started to spin backwards,, so i disconnected it and then reconnected it again and it started to spin the right way.... but now i dont get what to do from here... my throttle isnt working,, when i push down on the throttle, nothing happens... what did i do wrong??
Do you have to do this conversion for the scooter to work after you take the original gps and stuff off?
So did we figure out how to wire the topside correctly yet? I have more wires on my top side so I don't know what goes where cuz it's not the same as yours. Just been sitting on using I need your help
Trace the wires down, get a new controller and make the wires what you want, grab wires and pull to see which is which. I usually think of having all the wires and main components on a table, makes it easier. Battery to controller, controller to throttle, if ignition cords make a loop to short the two wires together so ignition is stuck on, or wire a switch. Just see if you can get motor to fire before all the neat and tidy wiring. Now controller to motor. Phase wires, blue, green, yellow, red, black, blue, green, yellow. Once hooked up see if motor will turn. If so yay! If not then it's multimeter time. Start at battery, Then controller, check throttle, ignition and then hall, if volts are there and good, try switching phase wire, 2 at a time and see if you get anything, this is all trial and error and trouble shooting. I've wired up about 5 scooters and after the second one you find out this shit is pretty simple. Hope I could help
Hey, would you happen to know of any wireless controllers that would work on the wheel motor? I am seeing the wheels with motor going for $25 or so on eBay and wanting to try making a three wheeled esk8 out of one.
Lol that’ll be nice but in order for the motor to drive wirelessly it would have to have some type of battery power supply built in that motor somehow to supply power for it to move. But no I haven’t seen anything like that. Again it’ll be pretty cool an invention like that
Oh HEADS UP EVERYBODY!!! Step #1 Disconnect your bloody Battery!!!
I have done plenty of electrical work & on scooters to know as much as we know, we tend to forget or over look some minor/ major details and only later does it become apparent such as in my case of being tired and just on auto-pilot watching the video and following instructions. At no point was I made aware of my fatal mistake until I touched a live wire and got a small spark. No damages but still a good wakeup call to the obvious 1st step not mentioned. LoL I'm such a putz.
could easily have been your last mistake. you can't Fuck around with a drill batteries worth of lithium cells let alone the 50 or whatever that's in this battery this is not the kind of thing that you do on autopilot or when you're tired or without tape on your wedding ring, in slippers, on your bed, with kids around. ijs that battery pack once removed from its outer shell can kill you 3 different ways at least. a cheap scooter isn't worth your life please don't learn electronics or how to solder with this project.
@johngaudi8546 well I personally disconnect the power source and discharge the battery to a marginal level. Then I begin to work on the cells.
Damn that's so G you actually got it running! 💯🙂🏆👏 Appreciate You Sharing Your Skills. My ? If you can plz reply when you have time I did everything you did except i didn't snap that mines the bird 3 it sparked like you do in last step but it didn't start :( Im missing something can you plz help Also I like to add that the controller I'm using came from a razor metro hd seated scooter hope you get back at me I needed to get around thank you for your time!! Does soldering have to be in a certain temperature does cold weather affect a soldering job ???
Thank you for the feedback !! Is your controller 36 V ? Does this controller have self study wire ? Does your wheel want to spin like A vibration or a locked will. For that I may have a solution.. you may need to purchase a controller
If you have self study wires plug them in and your wheels it’s been automatically on its own. Make sure all your wires are connected properly. You don’t want any wires touching each other that can cause a short
So you don't have to buy the 30 something dollar piece from whatever website to ride the scooter? I know you need it eventually but I just want to putt around for now. Is there any way to get in touch with you directly with questions about how to do stuff? Like do you teach people if they pay you?
Nice video, thanks, dare you do same thing with BOLT scooter ;)
don’t have bolt scooters here
How would u connect this motor controller it’s the one in your link but it’s not the same as the one u r using gas less wires on it????
The XT90 connector, can I just splice and solder the parts instead of using the connector ?
Great video. I'm getting ready to do the same. Where the brakes are I have 2 red 2 black 1 green 1 yellow and 1 blue. Also, I never seen any reference to the step down convertor. Thank you.
I have a quick question how exactly do you wire the m365 pro display on the bird 2 scooter thanks for your help !
On the existing black plastic display cover Cut a rectangle shape similar to the 365 display inside of that so it fit. But to use the m365 display u need to get a m365 controller with it, you can’t just wire any controller to this m365 display. Once you do get the proper controller to go with it everything will work just the way it were on the original m365 Connect to the app Through Bluetooth etc. only thing you will be actually wiring from your bird 2 is the battery , throttle,and lights , the display to the controller should be plug and play . Be sure you bypass your BMS !
Hello, we bought controller 36v 350w Brushless, but the two wide red cables are not there, in your video we can se them both. Besides other colors, we have only one wide red cable, and wide black one. And also I want to ask on 36-48v stepdown converter (your link no. 12). The video does not show that you did anything with it and mounted it somewhere. Where do we use it? Thank you in advance.
How many gps does it have? Or is the gps only where the brakes are?
The White kable is missing on my Kina controler .is it 6 to konect (hallsensor) from the "bird2"?
yo p&j,, so i got the 350W 36/48V Controller off Amazon, the same one you recommend, and i wired it all up just as it says in the vid, and im not sure what to do with the power wire.. the Red +, and Black -,, I need one of those red and black wires with the yellow Male connector piece on it.. right? cuz it sparks when i touch the red and black to the battery, but i need it to stay connected... and the throttle too im worried about ,, i dont know if im doing this right lol,, im pretty sure,, but i want this scooter to fire up and start riding... Anyways thanks man..
- Shawn P.
For the main power supply you want to use the thicker red and black positive/negative wires coming from controller, after you add a XT 60 connecter to the controller power supply it connects straight into the opposite XT 60 connector which is to the battery already. Sparks are normal ! That’s just letting you know it connected ..
thanks man,, another question,,, how fast does the 350W 36/48V go for the bird 2? and how fast does the 450w 36/48v go??
Which cable i need for charging the scooter
And it is normal that sparks came across in my face while doing the bms bypass thank you for your help❤️
And i need a link for the connectors for the Battery Cable
Yup I asked tha same shit hah but ya it is bruh
1. You are a crazy awesome MoFo. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
2. When you wired your master kill switch, was it between... the battery and the controller? And why do you always choose the negative side to wire -- on all Razors etc it's on the positive side, between battery and everything else. (OK, amps, I'd need a kill switch capable of handling 25 amps, right?)
3. You mentioned you had figured out the regenerative braking, but hadn't posted a video, "it was all on the controller"... would you mind? Again, mega-thx!
Regenerative braking should be as simple as bridging x and DS together on the back of the controller board. After that you should have your regenerative braking. For the kill switch you want to make sure it can take at least 21 amps .
great instructional video but was hoping to see you showing a test ride . i want to take this project on but skeptical due to no proof of your modifications actually working when following your instructions
not sure about the 2, but I know on the 3 the taillight cover says "Satelite position" (or something similar instead of position) and the board underneath is way more complicated and necessary for a simple LED light. Would recommend removing/replacing; possible Hunter network locator..
I have 2 B3 (decommissioned) scoots, both are plain no lettering or words on the taillight cover.
May be certain areas only !!
So what are you saying The goddamn scooters got a satellite positioning on it The bird threes Come on man Need a fucking post some real shit if that's real! But if it's real let us know! I'll be throwing fake news and shit
@@JzNMuzak Go look for yourself before you try and put someone on blast, idiot. That’s what it says so when you read that and consider the fact that “Hunter’s” have still been able to track and locate these despite the brain being removed, coming to the conclusion that it’s a possibility as mentioned/forewarned, would seem rational. Didn’t say it is that for certain. At least you tried tho 👏🏼
@@pjscootermods yeah maybe, I don't know I've never seen any B2's, Indy local. Have B3, Lime Gen 3 dual brake and single brake, and Spin Ninebot Max. Also the black Bird One's I believe? Haven't messed with one of those though. It de4finitely says that tho, I'll snap a pic of it when I go out to my shop later and post a link on here to help spread more "Fake News" as little snowflake below claims. Thanks for the vid tho dude, I wired a keyed ignition in place of the headlight and removed the board in the neck by the LED ring and installed a voltage meter display that fits perfectly on the head in the hole where the orange button goes. I used almost same controller but mine had a 3 speed mode connector that I shorted out to highest setting and mine averages 19mph and up tp 22mph downhill. Pretty fun and hella torquey (thanks to shunt mod)
and then I have a Harley projector Halo LED headlight mounted in place of stock headlight that I run with 2 LED strips mounted to the base that I power off a drill battery in a battery pouch at the base of the neck. In place of the tailight, I have a rechargeable Bluetooth Trek bicycle tailight that fit wedged perfectly in the spot where the stock taillight goes and is way brighter and gooder than OG. (yes, gooder not better; Indy local 🌽😂💪🏻)
Also was watching one or ur videos an didn't realized I still had to pop out battery but saw u hesitate a bit but no biggie for u anyways before I tried it I sprayed small amount of wd40 not soaked or anything jus enough to get some good friction but that sucker came out like butter ,my question is that a no no will the wd40 damage the battery
No you should be good with the WD-40 just be sure that it doesn’t find away to seep into The battery bms, you wouldn’t want some of that liquid to create contact with the components on the board.
Hey man when you plug in the white wire at the end and tire started spinning. Do I unplug the white wire and use my throttle? What’s next after that white wire
OK so after you unplug your self study Wires and you’re tire is spending the correct way from there that’s it. If everything works according to Then you can put your scooter back together after that.
Good video very informative. I think I screwed up my battery any idea where I can get a replacement.
every corner of every major city. wth?
How do you hook up the battery for charging and do you have a link for a battery charger? The one I bought will not charge it. The light stays green.
It’s crazy how some people claimed that their battery does not charge.. so far every scooter that I have encountered has charged without having to do anything to it . Just plug the scooter in and it’s a charges like normal.. but to actually ride the scooter you would have to do the bypass for your output..
bravo congratulations brother but my question is, where is the gps? only up the board with the display? or do they have a tracking system elsewhere?
Wanted to know if u could help me out when hooking up the throttle the two wires that come with the throttle cable those hook up to what isn't one positive and neg
There should be three wires for the throttle.
There should be a total of 4 wires coming from your throttle
You’re only using 3 of those wires
1. Red - 4.2 V power
2.yellow Signal wire
3.black - negative
Hey man! Can I use this method and cut the main black wire going to the controller and attach it to an on and off switch? Would that work with this method?
Yes that will work! Use the negative side not the positive side
Hey so would it work normally? Like you can use you handle trigger to go forward?
I did mine and I used my original throttle..
No just like in the video you saw that it did not work. The throttle was never working in the video what he did was connect the two white learn wires and it went forward disconnected and reconnected it to go backwards. So the scooter only works going forward and backwards when you connect the white wires but the throttle never works
My scooter has alot more going on up onthe top side. Can you please tell me which wires i need and dont need up there. I got my all wired up the way that you do it and it doesn't work with mine so either my controller's battery I miss something or my scooter's different just trying to figure out which of those is the problem so I can move forward thanks so much for the information you provided so far you've been wonderful good work
My boy after I wire the long wires where do u get that small box (silver) from ??
Grey box ? If you’re talking about the controller then it’s in the link description
Hey jus bought a bird at the city auction an jus have a simple maybe dumb question but it all about saving that paper ur opinion does it matter the price of the speed controller cause seen a lot of them ranging 7$ to 80$ would a 10$ speed controller do the job for a bird or would go with 30 to 40$ speed controller thanks digging ur videos
Thanks : Yes you can use a cheap controller it doesn’t matter it’s gonna work the same way as a $80 controller would work.Sellers put their own prices on these controllers and then a lot of times the price also goes up as the voltage and amperage goes up ,The controller gets bigger and bulkier more Mosfets and higher rating capacitors..
I have never had an issue with a controller just going out on its own, so I would say you’re pretty safe on choosing a pretty damn cheap controller because I’ve done so myself.
And then you have those controllers which are programmable, using a computer and some software you can program your scooter how you like it, you can adjust the amount of amps you want your controller to draw etc.
But for starters I would definitely start with something cheap ! Especially if it’s a first time project
Hey when attaching that resistor onto your green wire, (as shown @ 17:45) what's the numbers on that resistor? The barcode ya know.
30 ohm resistor
Any ideas on Superpedestrian override...just bought several from auction...thank uou in advance
Na I have no clue ! The process is the same I can say that much. If the battery is a 36 V well then you want to go with a 36 V controller kit for it that’s pretty much all you need for your scooters to run! If your battery pack happens to be 48 V then you want to stick with a 48 V controller kit .. as far as the tools needed to take apart I have no clue. Not the same bits used for bird that’s forsure .
I connected everything like the video and at 44:58 you connect the connector and the tire spins and it spins the correct direction how do you stop the tire from spinning and using the throttle only way to stop the tire from moving is disconnecting that connector ???
After you unplug your self study wires/intelligent wires your tire stops spinning on its own. And the only way to engage the motor should be to the throttle
Hey so I hooked everything up everything work. The only problem I ran into it doesn’t charge. Everything is good. In the meantime I just soldered wires on top of the battery motherboard and it’s charging finally. Just want to know how to avoid doing that.
That’s crazy that should never be the case 💀. I have no idea how that happened. i’ve never had an issue charging a scooter . if there was an issue, it was because the battery BMS was flashing a red light indicating an issue. But typically you charge it through the charging port at the back where the small xt30 pokes out The opposite, and goes directly to the charging port
Hi , I did the same hack in France ! power is strong, did you try to connect the electrical brake ? great job !
Thanks ! no To the electrical break but I do know how to do the regenerative braking if that’s what you’re referring to.. very simple not sure if I posted a video of that yet.. it’s all done inside the controller housing on the back of the board..
@@pjscootermods we have here all Lime and Bird series, I did test them all, this scooter is the best ! this aluminum style is cool ! just need better brakes ;)
i been following your video for this bird 2 build. When I get to the part where you plug the learning nwires together on the controller...nothing nhappens. i been thru it over and over and cant figure why it isnt working just like yours did. Is there anything that has to be done to the battery to get it working? I bought the same controller that you linked in the video and I cant understand what im doing wrong. Im getting the right voltage on the output of the battery after doing that bypass so i kn ow the controller is getting npower...please help
Something is not right !! Go back over your wiring .make sure nothing is loose..at the end the self study wires should drive the wheel if everything looks good..
thanks brother. I finally figured it out. It was a combination of two things. First of all I forgot to do the BMS bypass. WIthout that jumper you wont get the output voltage at that XT60 connector. secondly i had the throttle wired up wrong. I forgot that little bit about using the yellow wire instead of the blue wire. Good lookin tho bro. Yup she fired up and i ust got done wiring up a kill switch. appreciate ur skills on display my homie! Keep up feel me!
@@christophergonzales3974 wdym kill switch?
@@icetea27 A kill switch is a rocker switch that you install so the power to the scooter or E-bike is cut off. They work good as an Anti-Theft function. You just hide the actual switch circuit and and when you want to have an added layer of anti-theft, you flip the switch and the power is cut off. The thieves would have to locate the switch in order to restore power to the scooter or bike.
yo like i got a T-40 is that the same as your CR-40 bit? as my T-40 has a little play in it unless i use a little love with the hammer. also searched online and on amazon for a cr-40 with no exact matches. closest to it is a CR-V-40....but even then i paused your video to see you have 3 sets of dual characters on your bit. only i cant make those out either.
T-45 is the correct size , t-40 will also work
@P&J scooter mods ahhh I thought a larger. I have not seen a 45 but 40 or 50. Prolly in another set... I got like 15 sets each with one unique bit. Lol need any extras?
@P&J scooter mods say uh,... 2 weeks later I got the bloody bolts off the battery cover and I have started the battery removal. Only to notice that I removed 6 big bolts and 6 small ones ... you only removed 4 small ones. That means I am working on a bird3 doesnt it?
hey pat Johnson, awesome video very informative and easy to follow. I got my two to run and drive even with a kill switch at the back like you did. the only problem is that it doesnt seem to have enough power to push me up a hill like my Personal ninebot g30 or when i rode the bird 2 in seattle. do yours do that too? im using a brainpower controller but it seemed to be the same even when i changed controllers. Thanks.
Aye What’s up bro ! Ok so what you need for that is simply a controller with more amps,amps = Current which equals more Force/torque/up hill power..
My guess is you’re probably only running 13 amps👀.
You can add a little bit of Solder to the shunt but I wouldn’t go overboard with it because then you can blow your Mosfet/s by doing that you lower the resistance which gives you more current..
Or look for a controller that is 36 V and rated like 20 amps or higher
Take your measurements, make sure your controller fits in the housing.
Yo check out (if you haven't already) P&J's other related videos on modding a bird into 72 volts! Nicely done with boocoup power.
What was that black tag held on by a zip tie by the battery connector you cut off.
That black tie holds the motor phase wires together to a plate to hold it in place.
Do you have to have the two power connectors or will it fuck it up if I just type em together??
Just break the XT 60 connector from the -bird controller- and reuse it
I don’t think it would mess anything up , you’re just going to see a big ass spark if you connect your power cables without the XT 60 connectors
But I wouldn’t work on a live circuit like that. Just be careful doing it
How about the Lyme scooter g30 the conector for the Dash face control board connector is different is the hack that or where can find that face control with that conector
I would have to see it. But the process is pretty much the same
On the top there's only 3 wires that connect to the throttle and 2 wires for the light and Is that it?up top there's like 15 wires on mine..
Do you cant use the original controller?
Can I get a list of things I would need before taking on this project? Also maybe recommend parts
U need soldering iron, wire, soldering tin, security screw driver and probably other things too idk
Love when people comment by saying “I don’t know” 😂
By soldering p+ to b+ is that how you got the battery to work? Is this the reason?
When you bridge B+ to P+ you are bypassing the Battery output which allows you to drive the scooter. If you use a multi meter and do a battery reading before doing the bypass on your battery you will get 0 volts but after doing the output bypass ( p+ to b+ ) you will see your existing 30to 42v
Thanks yeah I watched almost all your videos
Hey man my my bird 3 doesn’t have a light button on the side like this one. What do you suggest?
You install the switch, none of them have a switch there. He drilled a hole and added the switch to it.
@@justinmcintosh2330 fr like did they even watch the video
The comments below are correct ! I was suggest watching my videos thoroughly
I’ve weird everything up and it works great! But when I hit the throttle all the way it shuts off. I have to ease into it. Any idea why?
How much would you pay for a B2🤔
Which control are you using ?
I am considering full bms replacement with aftermarket. Any thoughts or recommendation?
what is the purpose of changing out the BMS ? Are you doing this to get a higher amp draw. Unless the original is malfunctioning I’d leave it
@@pjscootermods I guess I just wanna see if it's that and not the throttle they're idle that's malfunctioning or there's some sort of security patch built into the newer ones because mine is a little different than yours
@@prolifictroll9387 you could just have a faulty battery ! Does the battery charge at all ?
@@pjscootermods I never hooked it up to a charger but it's still holding a charge it's at 38 holes I think when I checked it it was not full but close enough To operate and I did plug in self study lines or whatever and it does spin when I do that I just the throttle doesn't work at all it doesn't mean register nothing happens when I touch it better how I mess with the wires I think mine has a few extra wires on the top 2 so I'm not sure that my scooter is exactly the same as yours top side how Many wires did yours have on the top ?
i got mine going but it has barely any torque. it’s faster than the city limited ones but it takes forever to get up there and can hardly go uphill. is that normal? of not do you know any solutions?
Get a bigger controller with more amps 💪
Higher Amps = more power/torque
Higher voltage = Higher speeds
@@pjscootermods can you recommend one with similar color coding?
@P&J scooter Mods ayy bruh real shit you the man homes. Thank you for this video showing the whole process in one video. I fuck wit u touch homie. By the way where do u find the button for the light g?
Thank you. How do I know if it has a location tracking device or not?
Yessir the iot must be removed.I made a video on that,check it out
Yo g so I finally got my scooter working so when u plug in that last thing and the tire goes the wrong way then u plug it in the right way and it starts going, why doesn't my throttle have any control over the tire spinning? And do u end up leaving that last thing connected or do u disconnect it. And is my tire not spinning when it's not plugged in because u have to give it a push start?
No those wires that I plugged in really quick or called self study wires you only need to plug those in if your tires going the wrong way, but I do it anyways all the time, because even though the tire might spend the right way ! they can still be locked it’ll just shake/stutter really hard.. na bro you don’t want to leave those plugged together or your wheel will just on his own, just go back and check your throttle wires, remember you’re not using the blue wire !! It’s not a kickstart set up ,it should just take off when you give it throttle right then and there
@@pjscootermods ya man this is where imhaving trouble so lemme double check my throttle wires then
@@youngguap6691 did you figure it out?? I cant get mine to work either i believe i have a different model oe something is wrong with the throttle or a different throttle..
@@prolifictroll9387 ya man I finally got my shit running and bro I can garuntee if you followed every single step but it's still not working than your completely right it's your throttle. I didn't get mine working till I took the stock throttle off and replace it with an aftermarket throttle I had. So afterwards I went back In on the other one I was having trouble with took the throttle completely off and rewired everything now they both working
I'm thinking there must be some sort of hidden security feature that we're not understanding because There must not have been anything wrong with your throttle if it worked second time . Hey definitely upgraded the security on this device that's for sure both physically and visually I'm sure it's something to do with the BMS and/or the controller program board burning up something upon this assembly.
Calling all nerds figure this out you want the answer and so do we!
7:24 if i only soder the 3 cables at the top will it still work or do i need to the rest ??
Lol no sir wish it was that simple..bms still needs to be bypassed. And a aftermarket controller to go with it . - 36 V brushless-
I through them tabs away now I just got the display from amazon but I think it's for the bird 1 can I put it on bird two if you have time can you get back to me with a video link
So with the controller your using that u posted the link to. How fast are you able to go on it now
The 500w controller 30 mph very fast lots of torque 💪💪
Have you thought about building a dual motor B2 or 3 ?it requires the front fork to be modified to have a motor bolt to it. Not the most simple thing but it’s possible with some cheap power tools.
I plan on it
hey, the video was very helpful, I have one question, first I have to do what you said in the video (Brid 2 scooter step by step conversion), then come to this video or can I start from this video? i will be thankful if you answer me.
i mean the Bird 2/3 |Install display tutorial | diy Projects | Step-by-step video
My blue B3 has 7 star CR25 security bits, not 6 star like the CR45. Did you not find this also?
I may just drill these bitches out, having trouble finding the bit
Its from Europe apparently, how did you deal with yours?
Which step down converter do you need? Your link takes us to a page with a couple different options
How come I don’t get answered? I got three bird threes up and running. I figured out an easier way to get the wires out too. The white fitting opens
I'm trying to figure out the same thing
Hey fella check out P&J's video on headlight hack. It's a work around that you just hard wire into the 5v and GND on the speed controller. Eliminating your need for a step down all together.
Yo bro which converter did you get?
When I plug everything in and use the intelligent wires, it turns on and spins in the correct direction. However, the throttle only works when I unplug the throttle cables and then plug them back in. Is that because of the brake wires on my controller?
I got the bird 3 and had the same problem with my throttle..I ended up wiring my throttle to the throttle wires on the controller it self made it easier..
That’s strange I’ve never had that happen to me before
Been studying these but can you do a vid for the b3 man
i work on them for a living b2 and b3 are exactly the same electronically
Interesting video! When bypassing, you are wiring p+ with b+. Isn't it normally p- with b-? Why is it the other way around in your case. Im trying to understand the electrical concepts.
You can leave the negative wire and just run a new short piece of red positive wire from the main battery nickel and splice it into the existing xt60 plug/wire.
The negative is just traced on BMS board, no control aspect though
So technically you can do either or.
@@pjscootermods Okay, thank you :)!
Where do you connect the charger cable?
Is it the same process with the B3?
Sure is
hi @P&J scooter mods i folow your steps but not working.
but if connect learning line, road function but if i press the hand accelerator not working. have any ideia whats wrong? thanks i like your job
:)
Check your wires! Make sure nothing is pinching. I cannot tell you how many times I’ve had that issue.. make sure your soldering joints are connected.. disconnect and reconnect.. if it’s still not working at that point then I would definitely go with buying a throttle from Amazon.. and if it’s not working from there then what do you want to do is backtrack go over your work.. because at that point somethings not right.. it’ll be more than just a throttle issue
How do you charge it? Can you still lock it? Does the throttle still work? Is there an automatic increase in speed?
Your scooter should charge without having to do anything to it, just plug-in and charge like normal. If you have a b3 model then there must be something different going on with those in your area, but I’ve had that comment before.but I have a b3 model to and even that scooter charges like normal without having to mess with anything, make sure that do you have your connector plugged in going to get charging port down to the back of the battery (Black and red wire )
In different locations they have the bird 3 models with the light ring around the neck and I believe those are the ones having that issue ? But the ones I have not have that light ring so I don’t know exactly
The way I did the set-up in my video you cannot lock it , but there is a throttle that you can buy online that uses a key for you to lock/unlock, yes in this video I’m using the original Throttle, which is what I prefer personally because it looks more original, as far as the speed I believe it’s limited two 17 mph. Your speed should be about 25 mph after it’s converted.
It would be cool if you have one of each of the bird scooters if you could just tell us which one is which cuz I don't even know if I have a one or two or three or how I could tell the difference it would be sweet to just have someone tell me and show me real quick if you have one of each of the scooters you should do that or at least the ones that you have
I can't get the throttle to work. The only time the will moves is when I connect the two white wires. But those white wires make it go forward and backwards. My throttle has no use once I connect the two white wires so how do I get it to only go forward using the throttle only???
can you link the charger for the bird 2 and 3
can you make the same tutorials on a VOI
Good afternoon my friend had another question for you, so I finally got into the scooter and I cut the GPS and battery plastic carrier out. I have two red wires, two black wires, a green , a yellow and the blue wire in the video yours has yellow red black and the blue wire twist it around the bottom of them. Any ideas? Please help lol!! And as always, thank you very much because without you, this wouldn’t be possible🫡
Loosen up the throttle and brake lever , slide out your throttle wires and identify them that way. That’s another easy way of doing it can’t miss it .
I have the exact same I have a bird 3 so do I need to keep both black wires together in both red together in I have a yellow in blue
is controller required? could i connect wires without a controller and scooter will work?
Shit I wish
How did you get this scooter? It looks soo nice
I've heard you could get them at police auctions, but I know around me the local tow truck companies happen to have a couple of them because kids either steal them and have them in their house for so long without getting caught that they leave them somewhere and they end up getting towed or somebody gets arrested with a stolen one without the GPS and the tow truck company will only hold it for so long before they sell it off. Try calling your local tow companies like the ones that tow for any stores around you or apartment complexes.
@@daddydgom Oh thanks
What controller wattage after the bypass should I buy
500w 30amp brushless controller works perfect 👍
Are all controller boxes have the same schematics? Red blue and black as throttle but on my box the schematics say otherwise
nope not all controllers are the same. Wiring is different colors depending on the brand or the make ..
Whitch cabel do you use to charge the scooter ?
42.0v 1.7 or 2a power adapter
can I remove the speed limiter without having to disassemble the scooter? If yes, which cable should be cut?
There is no speed limiter on these controllers alone ! If you get a controller with the display unit then yes you would be able to limit your speed through the settings . No clipping necessary
@@pjscootermods I did not understand
Can u do a video on makin a spin scooter personal use
Strangely enough they took all the spin scooters out of my area .. we used to have them years ago like in the beginning when they started 2018/2019 era.. some places still have them but not over here, The procedure is the same using a brushless controller also on some of the spin Scooter models you can just simply flash the controller /reprogram it and not have to buy anything else.. except for maybe a kill switch !!
Great info. Did you bypass the battery management system when you soldered to it? If so, seems dangerous as that circuitry is there for your protection. You can install a generic 10s BMS in it's place.
Thats what I was thinking. Isnt he also bypassing over current protection?
@@Riley_Christian It looks like current and over/undervoltage/temperature protection was bypassed. The new controller should handle some of this. Should be okay as long as the battery charges through it's charging circuit where the cells can be balanced. Without balance charging the cells, individual cells will more quickly fail either by undercharging or overcharging where they usually catch fire.
@@Jasonv8z since I'm not to familiar with this circuit, buying a new bms is pretty cheap anyways. Or using a microcontroller to wake up this one could work as long as someone has the code for this specific model out there 🤞 even if it doesn't matter, it will give me peace of mind, cause I've seen batteries explode before and it gives me anxiety putting my faith in this solution without totally understanding how it's working
No worries the bms still does it’s part in what it is suppose to ..all this bypass is doing is enabling the voltage..without it the battery will read a high voltage then willl gradually go down at a fast past..bird does this so that scooter battery will seem useless to the naked eye..it’s a feature that rides with the bms..All I did was bypassed the batt output..scooter chargers like normal .there is no need a new bms .the original works just fine
@@Riley_Christian they just bypass the bms's ablity to cutoff output, so its more dangerous if the bms detects an issue and tries cutting off, it wont be able to, but it should still balance it when charging
Do you have to get a new controller even to just get the wheel spinning
Yes