2021 Kia Telluride - Still the Best Midsize SUV

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  • Опубліковано 14 жов 2024

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  • @DriversOnly
    @DriversOnly  4 роки тому +5

    To learn more about the Kia Telluride and to see where it ranks, check out: driversonlyrankings.com/2021-kia-telluride/

  • @paulm6481
    @paulm6481 4 роки тому +3

    All muscle no fat. That is the vide with this car. Has all the necessities none of the junk you don’t need. Knobs and buttons everywhere which is nice. Big infotainment screen. Plenty of size inside, naturally aspirated engine with good size and normal automatic (no garbage CVT or bad ZF 9 speeds). I get it in green and brown interior. Perfection.

  • @shundashundalah
    @shundashundalah 4 роки тому +19

    I like that Kia is sticking with the standard shifters. I’m not a fan of the new dials with newer cars.

  • @PsychicMedium4747
    @PsychicMedium4747 3 роки тому +14

    Love the brand they are leaving Toyota abd Honda in the dust. I bought the Sorento and it is amazing

  • @l.l.5274
    @l.l.5274 4 роки тому +11

    What a car and what a review! Thanks! I'm really interested in long term reliability or just mechanical quality. Thanks.

    •  4 роки тому +6

      Telluride has the strictest quality control of any Kia. In that respect it's superior to all other Kias. There is a 2 mile test track next to the factory. every Telluride must pass extra testing above and beyond any other Kia. Backed up by the nest warranty in the business, along with overwhelming consumer demand, you can also expect Telluride to have excellent resale value. I've seen used ones with 20K miles sell for msrp sticker or more!
      It should also be mentioned that Telluride was designed by engineers hired away from Audi and Mercedes, so some of that quality engineering backs up every Telluride too. They've even said Telluride reliability and build quality is better than the so called luxury brands. Telluride has been called the Korean Mercedes- but with superior reliability.

    • @ginger_breadman
      @ginger_breadman 3 роки тому

      @ that’s good to hear

  • @kingakhenaton5111
    @kingakhenaton5111 3 роки тому +4

    I have the 2021 Telluride Nightfall Edition and is very quick! Put in sport mode and it takes off really fast!

    • @DriversOnly
      @DriversOnly  3 роки тому

      Very nice! Glad you enjoy it.

    • @anthonyb2559
      @anthonyb2559 3 роки тому +1

      I'm stuck between this and the 2021 Tahoe... Kia is much cheaper but is it a "man's" car?

    • @parislark6402
      @parislark6402 3 роки тому +1

      @@anthonyb2559 I was thinking the same thing love the Tahoe but test drove the telluride and game over just go the 2021 Moss green night fall package can't beat it with that warranty!!!

  • @notta3d
    @notta3d 3 роки тому +2

    I'm looking forward to not being able to find one in stock this year. I played the game all last year. I might even change the game's difficulty level to hardcore mode and go for the Basketball Nappa Leather. This mode requires you to go 3000 miles and beat any person that walks in off the street and buying it out from under you. It's so exhilarating when that happens. I'm pumped up to play.

  • @kimnewling5728
    @kimnewling5728 4 роки тому +15

    What a sweet ride. Again, it will boil down to the dealerships. Do they want to go the extra mile to make you happy? Is service department clean and reputable? Sometimes you find the perfect vehicle, but the dealership really sucks.

    • @deanrobbins8102
      @deanrobbins8102 4 роки тому +1

      just go to your preferred dealer and see if they can get it for you...dealers swap/trade all the time.

    • @kkatlvolvo
      @kkatlvolvo 3 роки тому +1

      No dealers are swapping this vehicle. You are right but inventory is super tight and they don’t need to swap this vehicle to get a sale.

  • @LilSaint001100
    @LilSaint001100 4 роки тому +10

    First time seeing USB ports for the 2nd row on the seat back. Pretty cleaver.

  • @FlorBunbury
    @FlorBunbury 3 роки тому

    Thank u for the video!! I will go tomorrow to check out the SUV 🤩

  • @miguelircontar
    @miguelircontar 4 роки тому +6

    I think only the base trim should have halogens projectors but the rest of trims should come with LED standard

    • @dianec6290
      @dianec6290 3 роки тому

      Especially, as crappy as their halogens supposedly are! I guess Canada is good enough to get all of their trim levels with LED lights, or Canada requires that.

  • @ginger_breadman
    @ginger_breadman 3 роки тому +1

    How much above MRSP should I expect to pay for the SX with nightfall and prestige package?

  • @bextar6365
    @bextar6365 4 роки тому +4

    I have no use for a 3 row but, if I did need one my choice would be a new Palisade, mid level model not black.

  • @ag4eng
    @ag4eng 4 роки тому +19

    The problem is that Kia dealers are the equivalent of sub-prime lenders, sleezy and predatory. If Kia wants to step up their game, they need to do something in that area or go with a direct sales model.

    • @DriversOnly
      @DriversOnly  4 роки тому +7

      They probably had to be like that before since no one was buying Kias. They now have cars people want.

    • @ranger2316
      @ranger2316 4 роки тому +5

      @@DriversOnly And a warranty to back that up. That's putting your money where your mouth is in my view ... and why I'm giving Hyundai and Kia a hard look when I trade in my Dodge Durango Citadel in a few months.

    • @stephenhendricks103
      @stephenhendricks103 4 роки тому +5

      A direct sales model is illegal in many states. And while it's true that many KIA dealers are accustomed to dealing with "budget constrained" purchasers, that has been changing significantly in recent years. They still have a ways to go but my dealer is no worse than dealers of other brands.

    • @ranger2316
      @ranger2316 4 роки тому

      @ I have to say, I love Audi's and have owned three of them ... but they have just priced themselves out of reach of mere mortals. Hyundai Palisades (in white) it is for me.

    • @chrismaggard348
      @chrismaggard348 3 роки тому +2

      @ Hi Derek, I am trading in 2013 Audi A6 for Kia Telluride SX Nightfall in Dark Grey, The problem is that my local dealership wants $5000 over MSRP for this vehicle, I had to go out of state to find a dealership that would order and sell to me at MSRP.

  • @GunsAndGrenache
    @GunsAndGrenache 4 роки тому +1

    Excellent review. I'm not a fan of the Nightfall blacked-out look so I ordered a SX Prestige/Tow package at MSRP. Yes, it might take a while because there's high demand and lines of customers also trying to get SXPs when the dealership only gets a certain amount of SX allocations each month. I think it's worth it, so I put in my deposit to get in the lineup.

    • @DriversOnly
      @DriversOnly  4 роки тому +1

      Congrats! How was your time at your local kia dealership btw? So many comments about dealerships being sleezy.

  • @Merdock-yp2xj
    @Merdock-yp2xj 4 роки тому +3

    We are almost due for a new car, this is at the top of my list, problem is, dealerships are adding 5K on top of MSRP because they know it’s so high demand. I convinced myself to just go with the S instead of the SX and dealerships are still pushing 37-40 when it’s 34 MSRP. Might have to go Palisade if I can’t find one in the color I want and for MSRP

    • @kromahj
      @kromahj 4 роки тому +1

      Don't do it, cuz you will be owing more then the car worth

    • @DriversOnly
      @DriversOnly  4 роки тому +4

      Don't pay over MSRP. Find the right dealership. The Palisade is better equipped if you get the Caligraphy or even the Limited. However, the looks isn't for everyone.

    • @joker927
      @joker927 4 роки тому +1

      Buy out of state. Sounds like you got stealerships where you live

    • @deepakalagesan1552
      @deepakalagesan1552 4 роки тому

      Here in MICHIGAN nobody buys Kia ..... we are big 3 people..... but the Kia dealers here have also raised the prices..... its a good time for them to make money ....

    • @joker927
      @joker927 4 роки тому +1

      @@deepakalagesan1552 people who make big financial decisions based on loyalty will see the error of their ways soon enough

  • @NothingMaster
    @NothingMaster 3 роки тому

    Excellent review. 👏🏻

  • @edraldi
    @edraldi 3 роки тому

    Ok @driversonly do I get this as a 2022 SX, or 2021 Audi Q7 55 Premium Plus? Totally different cars, but looking for a change.

  • @goonies_never_say_die
    @goonies_never_say_die 3 роки тому +8

    It's interesting that the Telluride gets categorized as a midsize when its dimensions are almost identical to the Toyota Land Cruiser and Lexus LX570.

  • @aymanlockhartable
    @aymanlockhartable 3 роки тому +6

    I left my G37 Infiniti for the Stinger! Next I’m getting rid of my Ford expedition for the Tellirude! If you ask me 10 years if I buy a KIA I would have said, “NEVER!” Never say never!

  • @cablebrain9691
    @cablebrain9691 3 роки тому

    So is the steering vague? Or is it precise?

  • @davidbundesen5867
    @davidbundesen5867 3 роки тому

    Great review. I like your style

  • @noelsilva8887
    @noelsilva8887 3 роки тому

    Great video but you made one mistake. The daytime running lights is white on lower model and sx is the only one to get it in yellow.

  • @victoriachanel2493
    @victoriachanel2493 3 роки тому +1

    Great video, is there any negotiation room on a Kia Telluride nightfall? Thanks!

    • @chrismaggard348
      @chrismaggard348 3 роки тому +3

      None, best you can do is right at MSRP

    • @victoriachanel2493
      @victoriachanel2493 3 роки тому

      @@chrismaggard348 thank you, do you know if the upcharge for the Snow Pearl White is legit? Doesn't make sense to have to pay extra for a color that is standard!

    • @ToddHoff
      @ToddHoff 3 роки тому

      @@chrismaggard348 I don't see anything at MSRP. It's always many thousands above.

    • @seanjone4574
      @seanjone4574 3 роки тому

      @@ToddHoff Plenty at MSRP in Cincinnati area. I am sure that is the same in other areas of the country as well. One dealership in town will actually do $1,000 under MSRP on special orders.

    • @chrismaggard348
      @chrismaggard348 3 роки тому

      @@ToddHoff just bought one yesterday 2021 SX Prestige and Nightfall in gravity grey. It can be done. Took me 3 months

  • @juustjoshin
    @juustjoshin 4 роки тому

    @Driversonly Does it having front and rear parking sensors standard? My 2019 Santa Fe Ultimate only has rear

    • @kkatlvolvo
      @kkatlvolvo 3 роки тому

      Not front sensors. That’s only on SX. Miss that on my EX and that’s a big miss IMO.

  • @sgtmac3431
    @sgtmac3431 3 роки тому

    Awesome review George. Feels weird watching you talk about something other than crypto 😁😁

  • @edkelly145
    @edkelly145 3 роки тому +1

    Nice review.

  • @ToddHoff
    @ToddHoff 3 роки тому +1

    How do you compare it to the honda passport? It's $10K more given how much dealers add on these days.

    • @DriversOnly
      @DriversOnly  3 роки тому +2

      Passport is 2 row only, Telluride compares better with the Pilot. The two are similar but Telluride wins hands down. Check out driversonlyrankings.com to see how they compare.

    • @ToddHoff
      @ToddHoff 3 роки тому +2

      @@DriversOnly Passport is not in the list.

  • @MusicLuv80
    @MusicLuv80 4 роки тому +8

    I wanted to get one but the dealerships are selling 5,000 dollars above MSPR. I lost all respect for this car.

    • @DriversOnly
      @DriversOnly  4 роки тому +8

      Yea its unfortunate that some Kia dealerships are doing this. Corp should not allow it. This is the car that put Kia on the map.

    • @MusicLuv80
      @MusicLuv80 4 роки тому +1

      @@DriversOnly So true. And to be fair, this SUV is great. I test drove it few times and it is really awesome. I find that the seats are super comfortable and the funny thing is the seats on S and EX are more comfortable than the most expensive trim level sit. Just my opinion.

    • @zingamark9679
      @zingamark9679 4 роки тому +1

      @@DriversOnly not some, i guess every dealership is doing this.

    • @junseokkim7673
      @junseokkim7673 4 роки тому +2

      Kia dealership in my area charged 10k markup.
      I will never consider kia or hyundai.

    • @MusicLuv80
      @MusicLuv80 4 роки тому +3

      @@junseokkim7673 Wow, that is insane. Kia really should do something about this.

  • @kmedado
    @kmedado 3 роки тому +1

    i was so into this car until my friend's car hit a deer driving at night and totaled her car. i was wondering why the telluride did not detect it with its front end collission safety feature where it could have slowed down her car? was it cause it was dark at night and the car was going 80 mph and did not detect the deer ahead of time?

    • @kkatlvolvo
      @kkatlvolvo 3 роки тому +9

      What do you think? I’ve hit two deers with vehicles and you have no time to react. No car is going to detect that.

  • @alaskaaudioguy35
    @alaskaaudioguy35 3 роки тому

    I like it and the pallasa but the only dealer in my state I won’t do business with them

  • @marksmith9176
    @marksmith9176 3 роки тому

    Kia, telluride
    We just ordered a 2021 Kia Telluride today a at local dealership and we PAID STICKER. Every other dealership was ask 6-7k over and people were standing in line to buy them at those dealership. The dealership where we bought ours also add a lifetime warranty on the Telluride for NO CHARGE. The only bad thing is a four to six month wait when you order it.
    Corwin Kia, Springfield, MO check them out for yourself. Talk to Tater yes Tater and Tell them Mark and Dardi sent you. But if you don’t want to then don’t we are not getting any special deal if you do use our name. I told tater I was going to spread the word and I want him to know I did. You just pay Sticker.I want them to get your business because they say we are going to be fair to are customers. Where the next closes dealership with it higher sticker price had a rep from Kia who told us that all local dealers are asking above sticker and people are paying it but he did not mention Corwin Kia.

  • @boyzepter
    @boyzepter 4 роки тому

    Nah is it include dvrs like black box? Cluster still semi digital why KIA? Australia not yet available.. Hmm

  • @billlyl3725
    @billlyl3725 4 роки тому +7

    Too bad you can’t buy and service the telluride at non-Kia dealers!! Great vehicle but I can’t deal with the sleaze Kia dealers in my area. Hard pass

    • @DriversOnly
      @DriversOnly  4 роки тому

      I've heard that from a lot of people now, hum never been in one myself. Really that bad?

    • @blackbeargear8884
      @blackbeargear8884 3 роки тому

      In what aspect?

  • @ranger2316
    @ranger2316 4 роки тому +6

    I am so done with the black out paint schemes on cars/suvs. I like the looks of this ... but I've got to give the nod to the Hyundai Palisade ... in white.

    • @ag4eng
      @ag4eng 4 роки тому +3

      So true, the black-out look is going to be so dated in a couple of years.

    • @mustang9549
      @mustang9549 4 роки тому +2

      Why palisade over telluride?

    • @ranger2316
      @ranger2316 4 роки тому +3

      @@mustang9549 I'm 67 ... a few years ago I was entirely into jeeps, 4x4's. The more rugged, the better I like them. Now ... I like things clean and simple ... plus ... creature comforts. In my purely subjective view, the Palisade just looks better ... in white, with the light color interior (I live in Florida)!

    • @ricsalsa
      @ricsalsa 3 роки тому +3

      @@mustang9549 interrior palissade so much better on telluride exterior just better for me

  • @larry-notthecableguy
    @larry-notthecableguy 4 роки тому

    How does it compare to Lexus RX?

    • @DriversOnly
      @DriversOnly  4 роки тому +10

      Honestly I like it better than the RX. Bigger, more comfortable, more tech and drives better.

    • @larry-notthecableguy
      @larry-notthecableguy 4 роки тому +3

      @@DriversOnly thanks for your reply. I am a big fan of the rx. Spending so much on a Kia is kinda hard to justify, but am liking the Korean brands more.

    • @MervinGutierrez
      @MervinGutierrez 4 роки тому +5

      @@larry-notthecableguy Was thinking the same thing but you gotta think of the value you’re getting for the Kia at that price point. Also the RX is a tad smaller so if you need more space the KIA is the way to go.

  • @thadlogan51
    @thadlogan51 3 роки тому

    Looks amazing but totally worthless as an AWD or 4x4. This doesn't even have 4 low gearing...or downhill decent assist so you are dead coming down a steep hill on ice and snow... so don't think about driving this to ski resort in a real storm. Believe me I live on a mountain peak and 4 low has saved my life endless times. At least the palisade, pathfinder, forerunner, Taureg, etc. have either low gearing or downhill decent assist control. But most people see AWD and think they are good to go... but they are clueless. This is a beautiful vehicle though if you are just looking for a city street SUV that looks cool and runs well...

  • @TexasRanchu
    @TexasRanchu 3 роки тому +2

    The only thing Kia did wrong is they can't make this SUV fast enough...its hard to find without a premium.

  •  4 роки тому +2

    It’s like a luxury limo with suv capabilities. The only thing I didn’t like was the Kia logo I put luxury KLexus badge overlays on my new Telluride as soon as I got it That keeps the car snobs guessing!

    • @nabatron21
      @nabatron21 4 роки тому +1

      Are u a bot?

    •  4 роки тому +1

      Not a bot. Just a great fan of Telluride luxury!

    • @nabatron21
      @nabatron21 4 роки тому +1

      @ interesting since you post the exact same thing over and over on telluride videos

    •  4 роки тому +2

      @@nabatron21 That's because I am really a Telluride fan, but not a fan of the Kia logo. A lot of Telluride owners would rebadge their vehicles with the luxury KLexus badge overlays if they knew they were available. IMHO that one change makes a world of difference in the perceptions of a Telluride. Frankly I think all Tellurides should come with KLexus badges. I've also seen some on K5s.

    • @nabatron21
      @nabatron21 4 роки тому +1

      @ I've seen you write this alot

  • @MegaMorgantown1
    @MegaMorgantown1 3 роки тому

    thanks

  • @jimnevin763
    @jimnevin763 3 роки тому

    I advise waiting a few year before heaping too much praise on these Kia/Hyundai SUV’s. They have to be saving money somewhere to sell such seemingly great products for the price they are asking. I saw a

  • @verygood7155
    @verygood7155 3 роки тому

    Too bad the position of those oddly placed headlights ruin the looks of the front.

  • @vimalramachandran
    @vimalramachandran 3 роки тому

    Lack of an electronic rearview mirror is a bummer.

  • @Dadwalfamilyadventures
    @Dadwalfamilyadventures 3 роки тому

    We all are george 😂

  • @fishinglass4215
    @fishinglass4215 3 роки тому

    I recently look at a 2021 telluride and was not impress. Had to go with the top trim to get some of the things I have currently with my 2018 Honda Pilot(Touring). Quite disappointed. I was not impressed as I thought I would be. Most notably the memory seat is not connected to the keys, no entertainment package. It just felt flimsy inside.
    The Telluride looks better on video and picture. It was not worth the trade-in for me. And I was ready to trade-in.
    Adding to the disappointment, the VIC I picked to test drive which had Nightfall and Prestige package had a flat tire...But this is the dealer's fault, not Kia.

  • @drw1926
    @drw1926 4 роки тому +5

    Anyone who's paying MSRP (or worse, above MSRP) for a generic Korean crossover is a fool. It's a car, nothing more. I can't believe the way some people overhype this garbage.

    • @nabatron21
      @nabatron21 4 роки тому +1

      Ordered ours 2grand off and have to order it.

    • @dianec6290
      @dianec6290 3 роки тому +1

      @@nabatron21 Off of MSRP or the dealer's marked up price? Where?

    • @nabatron21
      @nabatron21 3 роки тому

      @@dianec6290 off msrp. Canceled our order dealership was shady and lied to us when it was coming in just kept saying in the new year sometime with no updates.

    • @dianec6290
      @dianec6290 3 роки тому

      @@nabatron21 There are definitely some shady dealers and I am not too impressed with Kia's customer service. I called a couple of times and someone was going to get back to me. They just don't call back. I really wanted to find out about their headlamps. If you don't get the EX with Premium package, or the SX, the Headlamps supposedly are pretty bad.
      In Canada, all of the models come with the LED headlamps, but not in the US and the Halogen, from what I have read, are very subpar.
      So, are you getting another car? There are a few dealers that I know of that sell at sticker, but if you can get one for under MSRP, that would probably be a miracle right now. Not sure how long it will take for this to change, but I don't foresee it in the very near future. Also, there are so few out there, you almost have to order.
      One of our local dealers prices them online at $10 K over sticker. That is ridiculous!

    • @nabatron21
      @nabatron21 3 роки тому +1

      @@dianec6290 depending on what dealer you go do they either going to mark it up over msrp or they could swing you a deal because they want your business and that it selling so good.
      The vehicle itself has a lot going for it but Kia Canada and customers service could be the major factor with how Kia progresses. Like some others have said on forums is will Kia Canada give you support if there is anything wrong with the vehicle.
      We are probably ending up with the VW atlas. Liked the ride and feel of it interior wise isn't as good as the Kia but gives us everything we need. Looks wise I like that you can get the atlas with body matching paint on all the panels. Didnt like how Kia had a lot of plastic on the outside. I guess we chose lots of plastic on the inside of the atlas then lots of plastic on outside of Kia haha. Also like the fact VW awd system is very good and Kia has a fairly new awd system.

  • @joskjj3625
    @joskjj3625 4 роки тому

    Ahh the Kia telluride my second favorite 3 row suv

    • @DriversOnly
      @DriversOnly  4 роки тому

      And the first?

    • @joskjj3625
      @joskjj3625 4 роки тому +1

      @@DriversOnly Toyota Highlander

    • @joker927
      @joker927 4 роки тому +4

      @@joskjj3625 that 7 inches of legroom in the 3rd row of the telluride is a big difference. I'm going kia over toyota for my purchase.

    • @dianec6290
      @dianec6290 3 роки тому +4

      @@joskjj3625 I love Toyota, and they are pretty much all I have bought, but I was pretty disappointed with the new Highlander. The roominess of the Kia won it for me.

    • @joskjj3625
      @joskjj3625 3 роки тому +1

      @@dianec6290 well that’s your opinion, your opinion doesn’t change my opinion it, not how life works

  • @deepakalagesan1552
    @deepakalagesan1552 4 роки тому +2

    5000 above msrp.... no thanks ...... I am from Michigan .... I will get a Dodge Durango or GMC Acadia

  • @jmtjmt-jo7zj
    @jmtjmt-jo7zj 4 роки тому

    Way to much cheap black plastic trim for a high level model

  • @AliceHindustani
    @AliceHindustani 4 роки тому +2

    This seems paid review.
    Very pricey compared to Atlas.

    • @stephenhendricks103
      @stephenhendricks103 4 роки тому +4

      Not so when you compare vehicles with similar options.

    • @AliceHindustani
      @AliceHindustani 4 роки тому

      @@stephenhendricks103
      You can get Atlas for 40k with panoramic moonroof and all other futures. While Kia around 48k

    • @AliceHindustani
      @AliceHindustani 4 роки тому +4

      @@stephenhendricks103 if you are worry about maintenance compared to any other similar cars, with VW You are saving 8k upfront 😊

    • @stephenhendricks103
      @stephenhendricks103 4 роки тому +4

      @@AliceHindustani I happen to like the Atlas. I own a GTI and a KIA Sorento so I'm not biased in favor of either brand. If you're going by MSRP the only Atlas that comes in around $40K is the SE AWD and a V6 with tech AWD and an optional sunroof. But configured that comes in around $45. And it doesn't compare favorably with the top trim SX/PP Telluride at around $48K. Item for item the Telluride is considerably superior. A more upscale interior, far better infotainment and sound, a more modern engine running the Atkinson cycle, better fuel economy, and a wealth of details the VW lacks.
      It's true that VW dealers are far more willing to deal than KIA dealers. You may be able to pick up an Atlas for $3K or more off MSRP. If you're willing to wait for several months you can probably purchase a Telluride for MSRP while you can take your pick of a lot full of Atlases for less money. The reason? That's obvious. It's not that KIA dealers are villains and VW dealers are generous souls. It's because Tellurides are in heavy demand and short supply.

    • @AliceHindustani
      @AliceHindustani 4 роки тому

      @@stephenhendricks103
      Thank for your response.
      I own 2021 Atlas SEL with technology 4 motion at 40k (taxes & title included).
      I bought after so much research.
      My 1st choice was Highlander. But their 3rd row and trunk is no use.

  • @AliceHindustani
    @AliceHindustani 4 роки тому

    No no no
    Go for Atlas 2021

    • @ZapFlashD
      @ZapFlashD 3 роки тому +4

      Not for me. Telluride is my choice!

  • @marksmith9176
    @marksmith9176 3 роки тому

    Kia, telluride
    We just ordered a 2021 Kia Telluride today a at local dealership and we PAID STICKER. Every other dealership was ask 6-7k over and people were standing in line to buy them at those dealership. The dealership where we bought ours also add a lifetime warranty on the Telluride for NO CHARGE. The only bad thing is a four to six month wait when you order it.
    Corwin Kia, Springfield, MO check them out for yourself. Talk to Tater yes Tater and Tell them Mark and Dardi sent you. But if you don’t want to then don’t we are not getting any special deal if you do use our name. I told tater I was going to spread the word and I want him to know I did. You just pay Sticker.I want them to get your business because they say we are going to be fair to are customers. Where the next closes dealership with it higher sticker price had a rep from Kia who told us that all local dealers are asking above sticker and people are paying it but he did not mention Corwin Kia.