0:34 Opening the Vault 2:26 Defend the Conflux pt.1 5:13 Breaking the Oracles 10:09 How to Beat the Templar 15:09 Gorgon Maze 17:20 Defend the Conflux pt.2 22:42 How to Beat Atheon If YOU have Loadout recommendations for ANY encounter that worked well for your team & that you'd like to share, comment below!
To throw in a loadout recommendation, it’s probably better to utilize precision weapons on Atheon, AOE and weapons like Anarchy tend to make him move around a lot. At most you maybe carry a grenade launcher to direct impact and apply Breach & Clear.
On the day one difficulty at least Defending the Conflux Stasis warlock with turret and Witherhoard, First in last out, and either the DSC or Vault 450 LMG with firefly or rampage. Witherhoard holds off ads while you use filo to nuke overload Champs when a teammate dedicated to sprinting back and forth and stunning stuns them. When you go in the portal break the shield and drop the shield and drop witherhoard everywhere and use lmg to widdle them down till the wyvern gets to you.use your super to easily kill the wyvern. Then when the shielded guy spawns throw your stasis turret on the bridge in front of him and it will continually freeze him in place until backup comes to relieve you
I think using just numbers for all oracles would eliminate any possible confusion, but do what works for you I guess (I say this as someone who did Day 1).
Best way to do oracles for Atheon: Teleported team of three heads to the back of the side they got teleported to. This way is best since the point of view is the same as boss room. No need to invert call outs. EDIT: You can number the oracles an ignore this simple strat. I personally pick whichever strat is brain dead simple to avoid confusion but hey…it’s not like I don’t know what I’m talking about with all raid exotics in my vault.🤷🏽♂️
@@calebhenry3601 if everyone is facing the same direction there is no directional confusion. Going to the back has the added effect of you can literally just ignore adds, and you can see all six oracles without having to look up or behind you, maybe this isn’t a big deal for mouse and keyboard players but it saves valuable seconds for controller isers
Yup. That's what we are doing too. As soon as we get teleported we run to the middle, kill the Hydra and minotaurs and then continue onto the far back platform. Then both the outer and inner people have the same view of the Oracle locations.
19:29 it has a unique shield that can only be destroyed by a couple of things, such as colony, Prometheus lens, the relic. or you can use stasis with the new sidearm to freeze them indefinitely, then you just yeet them off the map :)
Fun fact: the "red planet" through the left portal isn't actually Mars, just a past version of Venus. Meanwhile, the right planet is future version Venus.
@@Cabbage22927 You're correct. Not sure why I put present instead of future. The main room in which Atheon and the portals reside is the present Venus.
You made the atheon oracles so much more complicated then it needed to be just have the teleported team run to the back as soon as they get teleported then everyone’s looking at the oracles in the same perspective
Thank you Fallout for the raid guide. The only thing I would tweak, though, is the section on Oracles for the Atheon boss fight. What my team did was run to the back of the room when teleported and turn around to face the Oracles, that way the callouts from the boss room will match without having to do any thinking. It really helped us :) I don't want you to think that you got anything wrong, though, because factoring in and inverting the callouts also works. I used your guide to get me through Deep Stone Crypt, which happened to be my first raid. Much appreciated.
This is definitely the best guide i've seen, I keep looking around on UA-cam and so many of the guides are so unclear and they just blast through certain parts, while you really take your time and make sure everything has clear diagrams. Thank you!
For Atheon Oracles since there is only three you can call left, mid and right. If two are in the same "lane", call front and back instead for those. E.g. "front, left, back". Only two Oracles can be in the same lane so it should be pretty obvious which ones they are.
Fallout I have followed you for a while but I just wanted to say I have watched many raid guide channels on UA-cam and you are by far my favorite and who I now refer to when I’m giving advice
The first encounters gonna be such a good spoil farm Edit: seems like conflux is gonna be a better farm, the first one only awards spoils once per week
plates dont award spoils every time, confluxes is better. the first chest counts as a secret chest and awards 5 spoils, something u already got, and a mod. only doable once a week.
The way you do oracles is perfect. Was Doing it with lfg a couple of them was calling out positions and the number. So everyone called 2 numbers each wave🤦🏽♂️ More people need to watch this video!
you can freeze the shielded minotaurs with stasis even while they're shielded. turret shadebinder warlocks are op and gives plenty of extra time for your team to kill gatekeeper
You can actually reverse climb to the secret chest before the Templar Room from the room itself. Just go to the right of the rally flag and bounce up the rocks. I found it was kind of easier than doing it the “Normal” way.
There is a platform at the back of both Mars and Venus where you can stand to avoid the ads and shot the oracles from the same perspective as the people in the boss room before running to the platform remember to kill the gatekeeper. People in the portal room can use whatever calls they like as both teams will have the same perspective. I prefer to use close and far for my call as I don’t have to memorize which oracle is which number i.e. close left is the Oracle closest to you on the left, far mid is the farthest middle oracle etc. the Minotaurs can hit you if they spawn in the right spot but one person with a blinding nades grenade launcher can blind it to stop it from hitting you.
Dude, so much more comprehensive than other vids. Great calm tone, like you’re actually teaching something unlike @Khakis who tries to overhype everything verbally, gives frenetic camera angles where it’s easy to miss what he’s trying to explain and calls his guide “for dummies”. Good job here.
Another tip for atheon, you only need to call out the first 2 oracles, the third will be whichever one isn’t called out. Puts less pressure on the caller
It's a lot easier as teleport team to just go to where the adds are and turn around and shoot oracles that way. 1. The extra enemies each new Oracle set spawns are there and 2. It's just easier and makes more sense
I personally was a big fan of Salvo in the energy slot. Good for clearing supplicants, and during DPS with time's vengeance active you can use demo+vorpal and reload it almost like old lunas by spamming grenades. It does take some timing tho since the grenade cooldown is just long enough that you have to be careful not to start the reload animation first.
We went to the back of the teleport room for oracles to have the same callouts as the oracle watcher in the boss room. We used far for further oracles and close for closer oracles.
There is a much easier way to do the called out in the boss room. Also since everything is random you won’t have a designated called out so not everyone will know to called them what u call them. The easiest way to do this phase is to keep it as simple as u can for everyone. People that gets teleported run straight to where the banner is and look ahead, while the should guy kills adds and run back to cleans the guys that are shooting, or they can all just stay there. Also the callout s are easier like this, any red light near are Left, Right and middle, lights that are far are far left, far mid, and far right, very very simple and it keeps everyone in the same page.
At boss our team when teleported move to the back of the room and our call outs are the same as what the other guardian sees. Reduces confusion that way imo A few anarchy shots on the floor can help remove the detain cage so your guardian doesn't have to leave the group
I'm at least glad that jumping while Detained was altered. For those who don't know, in Destiny 1 Vault of Glass, if you happened to jump when Detained your momentum will most likely propel you outside of the Detained bubble. The problem is that in about 1.5 seconds you will die. However, in Destiny 2 Vault of Glass, that isn't an issue.
Nice guide. I tried VOG the other night with randoms, and spent a few hours struggling through the various phases, getting a few weapons etc., and none of the groups I was with could get past the Atheon confluxes phase. I'm new to MMO's and raids, but not to gaming, and I love a good tough fight and puzzles and quests like the next guy, but the complexity of these raids seems REALLY over the top. Who enjoys this stuff? I see the Vex Mytho has a 5% drop chance too. Seems insanely masochistic to do raids.
It is and it is not even worth it considering most of the weapons u can get from easier missions these days are just as good if not better anyway. Fuck Bungie
The leader said that streamer callouts are kinda confusing so just wander around and call what Oracle you get a d then call when you shoot it. It's been a flawless strat for us
For Atheon, we just go in the back (Venus/Mars) and use the same method except the callout in the boss room doesn't have to flip the sides - having it matched in both places def makes it easier and consistent, IMO.
For those who don’t have anarchy, I’d say on the Templar boss encounter you can run the following: Witherhoard, Slug shotgun (with Auto Loading), and a Rocket launcher with auto loading. Got easily over a million damage every phase with it.
For defending the conflux pt2 you can actually use the colony up in their face to break their shields. No artifact needed. Obviously it’s gonna get patched but it’s way easier.
There is no portal to Mars. It's just pre-terraforming Venus. It's not red, it's yellow. All three rooms in the last section are the same room in different times. Left is past, right is future. That makes the encounter so much cooler.
I've never done a raid. And when I was invited to do one not knowing what the hell it was going on. And feeling completely overwhelmed by how much I didn't know cuz I've never done one I ended up bailing. Anxiety got too high I was freaking out and I didn't know what the hell was going on. Their instructions were sound enough for people that have seen vog. But for somebody like myself that has never done this or any other raid it was like talking to me in Latin. I need to go through this one time from beginning to end to learn exactly what to do on every stage and to get over my anxiety. Is there any chance you could assist me with this?
Alright... Since some of these strategies or maps are not the best or the simplest can be. Here are some tips I can provide for each encounter. 1) Build the Spire: No one needs to be sitting on the plates for that'sa death sentence unless you need to, as long the plates are not touched by the minotaurs, you should be fine. If touched, sit on it long enough to be reactivated. 2) Defend Confluxs Templar area: There are a total of 6 phases, 3 defend the spires and 3 Objective: _SURVIVE._ Once you do the defend phase successfully, you need to hold out long enough by killing ads or avoid death/negation. The last phase, should all your team except you die... Don't not wipe, wait it out. Chances are that is enough time to beat the last phase and you guessed it, being a sneaky running lad to survive. 3) Oracles: Simply assign a Guardian to 1-2 oracles and call out a number related to the order to shoot based on the sound heard and oracle appearing on that sound. So if a oracle appears in your face and the sound plays the first time, you call 1 which means you start the breaking process by killing that oracle first. Same logic as calling 2 means going second. If anyone doesn't get a oracle appearing even though they are assigned to that oracle location means they get to do ad-clearing for the team. Helps managing this phase a ton and creates a sense of teamwork/responsibility that people do like most of the time. 4) Templar: Fallout got it to the t, nothing overcomplicated. Just remember the same thing for oracles a bit except this time you need 3 oracle searchers and a place to start DPS phase. Keep note oracles can and will start at a time, which means you can either try to yolo it by pumping enough damage to kill the Templar like Anarchy + Double Slug Shotty (10 seconds tops) or play it slow and prepare for the next oracle phase. 5) Maze: The route is easy, but for the secret, Luckyy did make a video on it and yes it has all 3 breaking cibe locations. 6) Gatekeepers: Basically Defend the confluxes, there is a way for someone to stay at one place by uaing the Colony upclose to the minotaurs, aka a glitch. But there is another glitch to skip Atheon fight at this phase... Those who are at Venus after the encounter is complete will need to kill themselves with rockets or jumping off the ledge, being revived by teammates will cancel the attempt and chances to respawn at Venus will diminish. You'll see Atheon chilling at Venus and he cannot fight back, those at Venus will have 2 options of killing Atheon (loot, but game won't think it is completion, aka this was the push Atheon off thing Bungie made) or leaving him at low health for a one phase kill (loot and completion). 7) Atheon: If you chose to leave him at low HP or didn't do the glitch, then this is for you. Make 2 maps of one being Teleported map and one Normal map and assign each oracle by number or location. 2 maps are going to be needed if you want to make this easier. And the person is about to be detained go to that location the person being detained in the video go to for that's the safe spot to survive without putting teammates at risk.
For oracles callouts @ Atheon you don't need to be verbose unless you have 2 oracles on the same side. For example: Left, Right, Mid. It's enough to understand the correct oracles sequence nobody cares if it was front-left or back-right in this case since there's no ambiguity. Whereas you must be specific (using a longer callout) in case you have 2 oracles on the same side. For example: front-left, mid, back-left. In this case because you gave 2 oracles on left you have to be specific. Some people also like yo make only the 1st 2 callouts only, leaving the 3rd and final oracle to the obvious remaining choice
For Atheon, we used the callouts "portal left/middle/right" and "spawn left/middle/right". In the Day 1 race, we flipped the callouts; yesterday we changed our approach: as soon as you get ported, pick up the Relic, kill the Hydra in the middle and then make your way to the small island (where you usually stand for the damage phase). Now your view on the arena is exactly the same as the one in the bossroom, making the callouts a lot easier. The Relic wielder has to be quick to destroy the Minotaur and make it back to the others to clense, but the rest of the mechanic is a lot less confusing.
For antheon, when 3 teammates get teleported, they go to the other side of the room, this becuase we usa callouts as ''left, far left, right, middle far'' etc
Really good guide. I was not going to bother with this raid. It looked too complicated but you’ve broken it down nicely. Thank you. My main hang up with raids which stops me doing them is that I don’t want to let anyone down.
Dude your funny 28:00 in the video talking about how complicated calling out the oracles on Venus or Mars it's easy the way you explain it great guide insightful and funny
I just ran my very first VoG last night with my clan (I'm not as active with them as I should be, I typically prefer to play solo just so I don't have to commit a ton of time if something unexpected comes up) and it was a lot of fun. I've only done a handful of raids since launch but I've enjoyed every single one so far. I even got the Vex Mythoclast on my first run which I kinda felt bad about 😂 My RNG is typically pretty shitty and it's my first raid exotic so that part was really cool. I never played the D1 version so I was going in completely blind, it took about 3 hours altogether to fully complete.
Way easier Oracle call-out for boss room. Run to spawn to get same perspective. Then back/front right/left and mid. For example "back left, mid, front left"
I like that fallout doesn't run to the back like every scrub lfg group for oracles. You also don't need to reverse call outs if you number them or like fallout, individually name them. Not sure why people keep mentioning this. Killing adds in the middle also gives you special ammo, something everyone's always out of because of hiding in the back lol running to collect ammo before returning is a waste of dps time too.
Oracles can be even more simplified. Just count as you see them spawn and count as you kill them. in order. Looking for the text can be hard while dealing with adds.
A great guide once again from Papa Fallout 🔥 Its a shame that people that are new to the raid or solo are having trouble finding others who are patient enough for them to learn 😒😒 Especially when one has an eye for that Fatebringer PvE roll 😔
Also if you don’t have witherhoard/shadowkeep those impulse recycler seasonal mods are absolutely insane, just one mod is almost infinite grenades if you place them right so imagine if u were running two
You forgot to mention unless I missed it but in the encounter before Aetheon, you can just use syymetry or colony and do not need to use the relic to break minotaur shields
Was going to post that, it used to irritate me so much in the early days. Eventually I think everyone just acquiesced and called it Mars. It was easier than having an argument every time! #itsnotMars.
What’s funny to me is how we all number Oracles during the Oracles encounter but everyone has a different way of doing Oracles during Atheon. My group stuck with numbers and haven’t had any issues when it comes to call outs.
We had 2 oracle killers with Zeno..right hidden was 1 clockwise to left hidden 7...I handled 4 thru 7 from the cliff buddy had 1 thru 3...with 4 ad killers worked pretty smooth
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0:34 Opening the Vault
2:26 Defend the Conflux pt.1
5:13 Breaking the Oracles
10:09 How to Beat the Templar
15:09 Gorgon Maze
17:20 Defend the Conflux pt.2
22:42 How to Beat Atheon
If YOU have Loadout recommendations for ANY encounter that worked well for your team & that you'd like to share, comment below!
To throw in a loadout recommendation, it’s probably better to utilize precision weapons on Atheon, AOE and weapons like Anarchy tend to make him move around a lot. At most you maybe carry a grenade launcher to direct impact and apply Breach & Clear.
I used a primary sniper, secondary gl and anarchy for Templar specifically.
On the day one difficulty at least Defending the Conflux Stasis warlock with turret and Witherhoard, First in last out, and either the DSC or Vault 450 LMG with firefly or rampage. Witherhoard holds off ads while you use filo to nuke overload Champs when a teammate dedicated to sprinting back and forth and stunning stuns them. When you go in the portal break the shield and drop the shield and drop witherhoard everywhere and use lmg to widdle them down till the wyvern gets to you.use your super to easily kill the wyvern. Then when the shielded guy spawns throw your stasis turret on the bridge in front of him and it will continually freeze him in place until backup comes to relieve you
I think using just numbers for all oracles would eliminate any possible confusion, but do what works for you I guess (I say this as someone who did Day 1).
When teleported in Atheon phase just run to back of room. Now you have same perspective as your team still in Atheon present.
My team: Lets go, In and out, 20 minute adventure?
*gets stuck on templar for 5 hours*
Why was everyone stuck on Templar?? It wasn’t that hard..
Bro same. Then I realized a guy on my team was 1290 😑
@Matisyaya oh sweet imma go in then, I’m like 1280 with bonus power
@@Bailz54 once contest mode was turned off and we knew what we were doing, then yeah, but that literally goes for any raid.
@@robertgray3710 Nobody is going to pet you stay in a group.
I know you're pvp fallout but I find your raid guides are the easiest to digest by a large margin. Great job!
@@LordBruuh fr bro man does a 15 minute intro
He is PvE as well.
I come here 3 years later and he STILL is imo
Pro-tip: Blinding nades will stop a Wyvern mid-air if they are charging at you. They go blind and just fall straight down out of the sky!
You are a fucking legend
FUCK YEAH! TIME FOR MY IGNITION CODE TO SHINE!
Gemini jesters and flashbang grenade too
You are a true Guardian
The wyverns are ultras so blinding dont work
Best way to do oracles for Atheon: Teleported team of three heads to the back of the side they got teleported to. This way is best since the point of view is the same as boss room. No need to invert call outs.
EDIT: You can number the oracles an ignore this simple strat. I personally pick whichever strat is brain dead simple to avoid confusion but hey…it’s not like I don’t know what I’m talking about with all raid exotics in my vault.🤷🏽♂️
Or use dedicated numbers for all oracles.
@@calebhenry3601 That's overly complicated. The oracles wont even spawn before the team gets to the back.
@@paradox9888 It's not overly complicated. It's not even complicated. If you can give each oracle a name you can give them a number
@@Dizastermaster. What's more, having numbers eliminates any possibility for any sense of directional confusion.
@@calebhenry3601 if everyone is facing the same direction there is no directional confusion. Going to the back has the added effect of you can literally just ignore adds, and you can see all six oracles without having to look up or behind you, maybe this isn’t a big deal for mouse and keyboard players but it saves valuable seconds for controller isers
If you get teleported just run to the other side snd look toward where you spawned its way easier than flipping call outs
Yup. That's what we are doing too. As soon as we get teleported we run to the middle, kill the Hydra and minotaurs and then continue onto the far back platform. Then both the outer and inner people have the same view of the Oracle locations.
And only call out 2 of the oracles, saves time and is simple, since the 3rd oracle is obvious
@@uliseto ye its 3 times easier than what fallout was saying
19:29
it has a unique shield that can only be destroyed by a couple of things, such as colony, Prometheus lens, the relic.
or you can use stasis with the new sidearm to freeze them indefinitely, then you just yeet them off the map :)
Prometheus lens works on it ?
@@bulmear2531
They patched it
Fun fact: the "red planet" through the left portal isn't actually Mars, just a past version of Venus. Meanwhile, the right planet is future version Venus.
🤯🤯🤯🤯
You sure its not the future? If its the present then why are all the vex you kill in there called decendents?
@@Cabbage22927 You're correct. Not sure why I put present instead of future. The main room in which Atheon and the portals reside is the present Venus.
I assumed it was mercury because CoO and how the white sleek vex being the mercury kind and the older overgrown garden type
@@kvngwar7368 Mercury is gone from D2 Universe, lore wise, Darkness got it
Your guides got me Divinity, your guides got me through DSC and got me EOT, now your guide will get me through VOG and get me Vex. Love you Fallout
You're the first person who make me understand how Oracle Phase works after I watched like 3-4 tutorial already. Thanks
You made the atheon oracles so much more complicated then it needed to be just have the teleported team run to the back as soon as they get teleported then everyone’s looking at the oracles in the same perspective
Thank you Fallout for the raid guide. The only thing I would tweak, though, is the section on Oracles for the Atheon boss fight. What my team did was run to the back of the room when teleported and turn around to face the Oracles, that way the callouts from the boss room will match without having to do any thinking. It really helped us :)
I don't want you to think that you got anything wrong, though, because factoring in and inverting the callouts also works. I used your guide to get me through Deep Stone Crypt, which happened to be my first raid. Much appreciated.
Honestly just run to the portal right away as away team in atheon. Then the call outs are simple and the same.
And instead of numbers if you don’t wanna learn them which works just as effectively
Far, close
Right, middle, and left
Plus you have coverage from most of the adds that spawn later
Use
123
456
Or
far close
Right mid left
@@dilophan6547 this is the numbering system we use after running to the portals like team from outside for no confusion
@@super7821 totally agreed my guy
This is definitely the best guide i've seen, I keep looking around on UA-cam and so many of the guides are so unclear and they just blast through certain parts, while you really take your time and make sure everything has clear diagrams. Thank you!
Step 1: Have friends
Instant fail
Step 1.5: Have a mic
I recommend LFG or even Facebook groups, last night my fireteam needed a sixth player and we found one quickly (we couldn't kill Atheon)
That's some good advice
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For Atheon Oracles since there is only three you can call left, mid and right.
If two are in the same "lane", call front and back instead for those. E.g. "front, left, back". Only two Oracles can be in the same lane so it should be pretty obvious which ones they are.
Love the synthwave in the walking section
Fallout I have followed you for a while but I just wanted to say I have watched many raid guide channels on UA-cam and you are by far my favorite and who I now refer to when I’m giving advice
The first encounters gonna be such a good spoil farm
Edit: seems like conflux is gonna be a better farm, the first one only awards spoils once per week
plates dont award spoils every time, confluxes is better. the first chest counts as a secret chest and awards 5 spoils, something u already got, and a mod. only doable once a week.
At five a pop? This gig economy is no joke.
@@kamranshaikh2903 oh, makes sense i guess
Templer phase, Anarchy + double Shotgun = one phase = fastest way :)
This raid was so freaking fun
It's also better to call out just the first 2 oracles instead of all 3 to make less things to remember for the other team
The way you do oracles is perfect. Was Doing it with lfg a couple of them was calling out positions and the number. So everyone called 2 numbers each wave🤦🏽♂️ More people need to watch this video!
you can freeze the shielded minotaurs with stasis even while they're shielded. turret shadebinder warlocks are op and gives plenty of extra time for your team to kill gatekeeper
You can actually reverse climb to the secret chest before the Templar Room from the room itself. Just go to the right of the rally flag and bounce up the rocks. I found it was kind of easier than doing it the “Normal” way.
Like we did in the old days:)
Most beginner-friendly guide I found. Other guides seem suited for experienced players only
There is a platform at the back of both Mars and Venus where you can stand to avoid the ads and shot the oracles from the same perspective as the people in the boss room before running to the platform remember to kill the gatekeeper. People in the portal room can use whatever calls they like as both teams will have the same perspective. I prefer to use close and far for my call as I don’t have to memorize which oracle is which number i.e. close left is the Oracle closest to you on the left, far mid is the farthest middle oracle etc. the Minotaurs can hit you if they spawn in the right spot but one person with a blinding nades grenade launcher can blind it to stop it from hitting you.
Dude, so much more comprehensive than other vids. Great calm tone, like you’re actually teaching something unlike @Khakis who tries to overhype everything verbally, gives frenetic camera angles where it’s easy to miss what he’s trying to explain and calls his guide “for dummies”. Good job here.
tip for final boss room:when u get teleported just go to very back and turn around now u have the same perspective of the outside team
Another tip for atheon, you only need to call out the first 2 oracles, the third will be whichever one isn’t called out. Puts less pressure on the caller
wicked easy to follow guide and timestamps were really helpful, i've been sharing this vid with the rest of my team. Thank you!
Great video. I'm a relatively new light and I keep coming back to it as I prep for the raid.
My callouts (after running to orient teleported players to match) are Front/Back for Left, middle and right. I highly recommend it.
I just finished the raid thanks to your video my man, you just got me a ring and jacket!
It's a lot easier as teleport team to just go to where the adds are and turn around and shoot oracles that way. 1. The extra enemies each new Oracle set spawns are there and 2. It's just easier and makes more sense
I personally was a big fan of Salvo in the energy slot. Good for clearing supplicants, and during DPS with time's vengeance active you can use demo+vorpal and reload it almost like old lunas by spamming grenades. It does take some timing tho since the grenade cooldown is just long enough that you have to be careful not to start the reload animation first.
We went to the back of the teleport room for oracles to have the same callouts as the oracle watcher in the boss room. We used far for further oracles and close for closer oracles.
There is a much easier way to do the called out in the boss room. Also since everything is random you won’t have a designated called out so not everyone will know to called them what u call them. The easiest way to do this phase is to keep it as simple as u can for everyone. People that gets teleported run straight to where the banner is and look ahead, while the should guy kills adds and run back to cleans the guys that are shooting, or they can all just stay there. Also the callout s are easier like this, any red light near are Left, Right and middle, lights that are far are far left, far mid, and far right, very very simple and it keeps everyone in the same page.
At boss our team when teleported move to the back of the room and our call outs are the same as what the other guardian sees. Reduces confusion that way imo
A few anarchy shots on the floor can help remove the detain cage so your guardian doesn't have to leave the group
I'm at least glad that jumping while Detained was altered. For those who don't know, in Destiny 1 Vault of Glass, if you happened to jump when Detained your momentum will most likely propel you outside of the Detained bubble. The problem is that in about 1.5 seconds you will die. However, in Destiny 2 Vault of Glass, that isn't an issue.
Way prefer this guys guide compared to LongIntroKakisHD, thanks for the vid bro!
Nice guide. I tried VOG the other night with randoms, and spent a few hours struggling through the various phases, getting a few weapons etc., and none of the groups I was with could get past the Atheon confluxes phase. I'm new to MMO's and raids, but not to gaming, and I love a good tough fight and puzzles and quests like the next guy, but the complexity of these raids seems REALLY over the top. Who enjoys this stuff? I see the Vex Mytho has a 5% drop chance too. Seems insanely masochistic to do raids.
It is and it is not even worth it considering most of the weapons u can get from easier missions these days are just as good if not better anyway. Fuck Bungie
Thanks for the overhead maps. Maps help a lot and I’m surprised how few guides have maps
In case you didn’t know, if you’re a warlock using the relic, you can still use icarus dash to really quickly block the templar’s teleport.
Ty! Very clear! Was bit nervous to try d2 VOG since only did d1 VOG but this was very helpful!
I refuse to watch a kackis guide. I was waiting on this
Just finished first VOG.thanks very much man .appreciate it .
Best VOG guide out there
finaly!!!
The guide we've been waiting for!!!
Thanks for the video. I have to mention that Jötun is a good weapon to clean ads and dps. Give it a try.
In my clears during Oracle's we didn't use the callouts we just called out what Oracle we had. So if I got 2 I would call "2 on beast"
We did the same, that's what worked best for us
The leader said that streamer callouts are kinda confusing so just wander around and call what Oracle you get a d then call when you shoot it. It's been a flawless strat for us
Dope super comprehensive guide once again Papa Fallout thanks
For Atheon, we just go in the back (Venus/Mars) and use the same method except the callout in the boss room doesn't have to flip the sides - having it matched in both places def makes it easier and consistent, IMO.
For those who don’t have anarchy, I’d say on the Templar boss encounter you can run the following: Witherhoard, Slug shotgun (with Auto Loading), and a Rocket launcher with auto loading. Got easily over a million damage every phase with it.
For oracles my team found everyone having one designated oracle and one person gets both hidden worked wonderfully for use.
This is a great explanation, I completely understand
Nice video fallout. Exceptionally useful and clear. 🙏🏻 thanks.
Have you done a full GoS guide like this? Sanctified mind has been stomping my fireteam
For defending the conflux pt2 you can actually use the colony up in their face to break their shields. No artifact needed. Obviously it’s gonna get patched but it’s way easier.
Great vid Fallout! 😎👍
There is no portal to Mars. It's just pre-terraforming Venus.
It's not red, it's yellow.
All three rooms in the last section are the same room in different times. Left is past, right is future.
That makes the encounter so much cooler.
Also you only have 4 damage phases for Antheon, otherwise the entire team gets wiped
I'm really enjoying your guides!
After trying a few different Atheon Oracle call-outs I 100% recommend descriptive callouts instead of numbers.
The numbers strat sounds like an awful idea.
Well explained and thorough video! I look forward to trying this raid.
I cringe everytime he hit the ground with thunder crash. You need to direct impact for extra damage
he mostly hits the legs i think it’s so he doesn’t fall for ages and he can get back quicker
@Naveen KV you play the game much?
I’m pretty sure if you land fairly near to an enemy with thundercrash, it will count as a direct impact
I've never done a raid. And when I was invited to do one not knowing what the hell it was going on. And feeling completely overwhelmed by how much I didn't know cuz I've never done one I ended up bailing. Anxiety got too high I was freaking out and I didn't know what the hell was going on. Their instructions were sound enough for people that have seen vog. But for somebody like myself that has never done this or any other raid it was like talking to me in Latin. I need to go through this one time from beginning to end to learn exactly what to do on every stage and to get over my anxiety. Is there any chance you could assist me with this?
Alright... Since some of these strategies or maps are not the best or the simplest can be. Here are some tips I can provide for each encounter.
1) Build the Spire: No one needs to be sitting on the plates for that'sa death sentence unless you need to, as long the plates are not touched by the minotaurs, you should be fine. If touched, sit on it long enough to be reactivated.
2) Defend Confluxs Templar area: There are a total of 6 phases, 3 defend the spires and 3 Objective: _SURVIVE._ Once you do the defend phase successfully, you need to hold out long enough by killing ads or avoid death/negation. The last phase, should all your team except you die... Don't not wipe, wait it out. Chances are that is enough time to beat the last phase and you guessed it, being a sneaky running lad to survive.
3) Oracles: Simply assign a Guardian to 1-2 oracles and call out a number related to the order to shoot based on the sound heard and oracle appearing on that sound. So if a oracle appears in your face and the sound plays the first time, you call 1 which means you start the breaking process by killing that oracle first. Same logic as calling 2 means going second. If anyone doesn't get a oracle appearing even though they are assigned to that oracle location means they get to do ad-clearing for the team. Helps managing this phase a ton and creates a sense of teamwork/responsibility that people do like most of the time.
4) Templar: Fallout got it to the t, nothing overcomplicated. Just remember the same thing for oracles a bit except this time you need 3 oracle searchers and a place to start DPS phase. Keep note oracles can and will start at a time, which means you can either try to yolo it by pumping enough damage to kill the Templar like Anarchy + Double Slug Shotty (10 seconds tops) or play it slow and prepare for the next oracle phase.
5) Maze: The route is easy, but for the secret, Luckyy did make a video on it and yes it has all 3 breaking cibe locations.
6) Gatekeepers: Basically Defend the confluxes, there is a way for someone to stay at one place by uaing the Colony upclose to the minotaurs, aka a glitch. But there is another glitch to skip Atheon fight at this phase... Those who are at Venus after the encounter is complete will need to kill themselves with rockets or jumping off the ledge, being revived by teammates will cancel the attempt and chances to respawn at Venus will diminish. You'll see Atheon chilling at Venus and he cannot fight back, those at Venus will have 2 options of killing Atheon (loot, but game won't think it is completion, aka this was the push Atheon off thing Bungie made) or leaving him at low health for a one phase kill (loot and completion).
7) Atheon: If you chose to leave him at low HP or didn't do the glitch, then this is for you. Make 2 maps of one being Teleported map and one Normal map and assign each oracle by number or location. 2 maps are going to be needed if you want to make this easier. And the person is about to be detained go to that location the person being detained in the video go to for that's the safe spot to survive without putting teammates at risk.
For oracles callouts @ Atheon you don't need to be verbose unless you have 2 oracles on the same side. For example: Left, Right, Mid. It's enough to understand the correct oracles sequence nobody cares if it was front-left or back-right in this case since there's no ambiguity. Whereas you must be specific (using a longer callout) in case you have 2 oracles on the same side. For example: front-left, mid, back-left. In this case because you gave 2 oracles on left you have to be specific. Some people also like yo make only the 1st 2 callouts only, leaving the 3rd and final oracle to the obvious remaining choice
Amazing guide Fallout! Thank you 🙏
This was a helpful raid guide
Great video, thanks a lot.. I will say though, all the different weapons you used in this video was throwing me off haha
For Atheon, we used the callouts "portal left/middle/right" and "spawn left/middle/right". In the Day 1 race, we flipped the callouts; yesterday we changed our approach: as soon as you get ported, pick up the Relic, kill the Hydra in the middle and then make your way to the small island (where you usually stand for the damage phase). Now your view on the arena is exactly the same as the one in the bossroom, making the callouts a lot easier.
The Relic wielder has to be quick to destroy the Minotaur and make it back to the others to clense, but the rest of the mechanic is a lot less confusing.
Reminder that Sleeper Simulant is still a viable and pretty good DPS option for Templar and Atheon, especially if you don’t have Anarchy
Just started playing destiny 2 again after 2 years vog was my fav raid in d1
"Raaaaaaid?!
Kills Vex Dead"
This isn't copyright infringement is it?
For antheon, when 3 teammates get teleported, they go to the other side of the room, this becuase we usa callouts as ''left, far left, right, middle far'' etc
Really good guide. I was not going to bother with this raid. It looked too complicated but you’ve broken it down nicely. Thank you. My main hang up with raids which stops me doing them is that I don’t want to let anyone down.
Dude your funny 28:00 in the video talking about how complicated calling out the oracles on Venus or Mars it's easy the way you explain it great guide insightful and funny
I just ran my very first VoG last night with my clan (I'm not as active with them as I should be, I typically prefer to play solo just so I don't have to commit a ton of time if something unexpected comes up) and it was a lot of fun. I've only done a handful of raids since launch but I've enjoyed every single one so far. I even got the Vex Mythoclast on my first run which I kinda felt bad about 😂 My RNG is typically pretty shitty and it's my first raid exotic so that part was really cool.
I never played the D1 version so I was going in completely blind, it took about 3 hours altogether to fully complete.
Way easier Oracle call-out for boss room. Run to spawn to get same perspective. Then back/front right/left and mid. For example "back left, mid, front left"
Unreal guide
Prometheus Lens can take off praetorian shields in the Gatekeepers encounter. Use it before it gets patched 👍🏼
I'm ridiculously good at keeping portals open! That's it though I'm not allowed to do anything else
Fantastic guide. Think I’m gonna stop doing kakis videos. I like the inclusion of teammate views on stuff. Excellent job sir
I don't play raids, and probably never will, but i still watched. :)
Raids are a waste
I like that fallout doesn't run to the back like every scrub lfg group for oracles. You also don't need to reverse call outs if you number them or like fallout, individually name them. Not sure why people keep mentioning this. Killing adds in the middle also gives you special ammo, something everyone's always out of because of hiding in the back lol running to collect ammo before returning is a waste of dps time too.
Hey fallout you ready to range test the new raid shotgun and compare it with felwinters
Oracles can be even more simplified. Just count as you see them spawn and count as you kill them. in order. Looking for the text can be hard while dealing with adds.
i wanna go back to this era of d2
Got Vex Mythoclast first try baby
A great guide once again from Papa Fallout 🔥 Its a shame that people that are new to the raid or solo are having trouble finding others who are patient enough for them to learn 😒😒 Especially when one has an eye for that Fatebringer PvE roll 😔
Yeah yeah thats cool and all but what helmet are you wearing during the Conflux part 2 encounter and how do I get it.
What timestamp?
@@mortastic5117 17:20
If you are talking about the warlock, it is the prophecy dungeon one
Also if you don’t have witherhoard/shadowkeep those impulse recycler seasonal mods are absolutely insane, just one mod is almost infinite grenades if you place them right so imagine if u were running two
Plus double ashes to assets
You forgot to mention unless I missed it but in the encounter before Aetheon, you can just use syymetry or colony and do not need to use the relic to break minotaur shields
Prometheus lens works too
Oracle calls at Atheon should be 1-6 clockwise starting at far middle, that way oracle 1 has the lowest pitch note and they go in ascending order.
You never leave Venus.
Right (Venus) is Future
Left (Mars) is Past
Was going to post that, it used to irritate me so much in the early days. Eventually I think everyone just acquiesced and called it Mars. It was easier than having an argument every time!
#itsnotMars.
What’s funny to me is how we all number Oracles during the Oracles encounter but everyone has a different way of doing Oracles during Atheon. My group stuck with numbers and haven’t had any issues when it comes to call outs.
Sweet guide. Now do shotgun testing between Found Verdict and Felwinters Lie(Please). What's better? Longer Barrel or Tighter Spread? ;)
We had 2 oracle killers with Zeno..right hidden was 1 clockwise to left hidden 7...I handled 4 thru 7 from the cliff buddy had 1 thru 3...with 4 ad killers worked pretty smooth
Does your intellect stat effect how fast the super regen in Times Vengeance is ? Or is it a flat speed for everyone?