As a Wooting owner with the jades, I HIGHLY recommend them to everyone. They are expensive but they sound so much better than the lekkars if you care about that. Edit: 6 months later there are a bunch of other switches to look at. If you like the CLACK sound the jades are great. I would recommend another switch if you prefer a different sound profile.
Personally I wouldnt recommend them; there will definitely be releases from other companies that follow the same design as the gateron jades after this release. If anything, there are most definitely companies copying this design as we speak; and since the price of the gateron jades are so high, you can count on similar upcoming switches to come at a much better price than what gateron is scalping consumers for with this product.
@@z3p.hyr_ That goes for literally any other premium switch 💀. IMO if you are buying the wooting 60he then you clearly have enough money to buy premium switches if you wanted to
@@z3p.hyr_ you already spend so much on wooting do you really care about a little extra? plus lekker switches are just as expensive on wooting's website.
@@sNiPeR95PwnZ It's actually really good. Tbf i would never go back to a mechanical keyboard again after using the Wooting. Lurching is so responsive with 0.1mm, and there is no way that i can achieve the same lurches with a mechanical keyboard due to 0.1mm actuation point for WASD. It's also perfect for supergliding in Apex (An inconsistent movement tech wich can only be consistent with either Wooting or Apex Pro).
These are great as well, full nylon housing but the bottom housing still has that hole in it. No rattle or spring noise on them though. I went with the Jades simply because I like long pole switches like the NK Cream and Invokeys Matcha Latte switches. I find them much more satisfying to type with.
I have both but I find the raptor HE has too soft a bottom out for me even with the lekker stems. However the wobble is 1000% better on the franken-lekker switches.
Another question that came to my mind, the first one you gave me your opinion on the other video - Are all HE keyboards (makers) with their magnetic switches have the feature of secondary activation (ex. press W to walk, press harder to Sprint) or it depends on if the switch has such support and respectively the software supplied by the keyboard maker? Thanks for the video.
How about a review for keyboards with optical switches? I started using gateron optical (lubed) KS 22 v2 on a Dark Project keyboard and I kinda like them a lot!
all I want is Kailh to make a box switch variant for these boards. I LOVE the stability they give on my GMMK Pro, and would buy them in a heartbeat for my Wooting
If you are excited for he pcbs for custom keebs matrix actually had a gb recently for the corsa, I hopped on it so I’m pretty excited to see how good a corsa he is
I have bought them for my Endgame Gear KB65HE and they abosultley do NOT work. I feel like the calibration with the magnets are totally off. With setting the right activation distance you get them to register but them you either get double triggers or endless triggers every time. Since the PCB is an OEM product I assume there will be similar issues the keyboards like the Highground ones.
I mean, I just wish they did 40g Jades... I might be able to frakenswitch the Lekker springs into them, but man, it is teeedious xD Edit: I just arrived to the end of the video, AND YES!!! BLACK INKS HE WOULD BE DOPE!!!
That’s awesome! I have a question I hope you can help me. I am going to buy a wooting module and want to buy the Jades do you have to install them southfacing ? I saw in many videos that you have to rotate the switches from north to south or south to north I can’t remember sorry. But if you do have to rotate them did. it affect the rgb a lot? Also which case do you use? Also which keycaps would you recommend ? I didn’t understand yet why exactly the switched need to be rotated that normal keycaps can be used. I hope you will answer thanks you already 🙏🏼
@@TheMasterTMTheMaster1507Hey whats up. So the RGB on the Wooting Modules are oriented North. So the windows on the jades just need to face accordingly if you want the full effect. And trust me you do. The RGB’s on the board look really good ;) Also I got the Alumaze case from Wooting and then I build the same build for my gf but in the Tofu 60 Redux I might have to get the Tofu 60 cuz it just sounds that much better. The acoustics are so much better…
@@eberhwang23 thank you so much for your reply! So you did rotate all of the switches right? Damn.. i am just scared to brake something haha. i like the tofu aswell! i want to buy the 80HE
@@TheMasterTMTheMaster1507 Hey np. So if im reading you correctly...if you're buying a new wooting module and jade switches all you need to do is make sure the windows on the jade switches are facing the same direction according to where the LEDs are on the module. LEDs are also oriented North on the 80HE
Indeed its quite goated! But some users reported that the tighter tolerance came out to have a friction feeling when actuating the switch. I'm not going against what you're saying but it's just a heads up.
Hi Brandon. I would suggest you do the sound test in the same environment with the same surface. Can't compare sound well when there is no control to the environment.
How about we don't invite more big, established companies to join the market? They had their chance. They were around for a long time before Wooting, and they didn't do anything even remotely close to what Wooting has done. As far as the Lekker switches go, the stem wobble is barely noticeable, and only if you know exactly what you're feeling for. It's a nit-picky point to even bring up. Fully lubed Lekker switches sound and feel fantastic. If you're coming from literally any Razer keyboard, something from Corsair, Logitech, etc. you're going to be thrilled with Lekkers, and lubing them will put you on cloud 9. By all means though, run to the big names at the first opportunity. Go spend your money with the companies that couldn't be bothered to innovate until Wooting made something for them to steal. Wooting also has the first wrist rest that hasn't fallen apart (looking at you, Logitech) and/or looked like garbage (looking at you, Razer) after a year. Have you ever thought of joining the Wooting Discord and talking to them about what you would like to see them offer? They're a very small team, and they're very receptive to input from their community.
For the life of me, I do not understand why you compromise performance (Wooting is a performance keyboard before all), so I can not understand why you limit its performance by installing switches which may impair performance (talking about the travel distance limitations)
For most people the performance that they seek is low latency with access to rapid trigger. I don’t really know anyone who uses their stock lekers with an actuation 3.5mm or more, so you aren’t really losing performance. It’s just a sound and feel preference with the same performance.
If the wooting already outperforms anything else, what's a small limiting factor when in the end it's still better than a traditional keyboard? People value different things, I like shooters from time to time but I wouldn't even switch to a hall effect board when it limits my switch and layout choice. I don't think Brandon cares either: as long as it feels fast, it's good. This isn't a real pro scene after all where every millisecond could count. Edit: I actually replied before watching, that doesn't even make any difference to performance of the switches.
@@kazuzaPT So you have what, 35 different levels of actuation over 40? Not really a big deal, I don't see reason to need that much granular control for anything competitive.
@E- 255 levels from 0.0 to 4.0 mm and most probably with a curve, and also configuring deadzones ... But yes, one can do whatever he wants. But then again, would probably be better suited with a custom keyboard, not a gaming one .... :)
How come these switched sound completely different on below link? ua-cam.com/video/6jvBlIrev_c/v-deo.html Its not anywhere close what on your video, is there some modification done to keyboard?
this video is laggy af, seems specific to this video since youtube loads others just fine for me just FYI. Also on gigabit connection and beefy PC so that's weird
Stock jade sounded so satisfying
Yeah I kinda prefer the stock jades listening back, was wondering if I should lube mine but I think I'm gonna leave them for a while
@@DrDaveYT he overlubed them in this sound test thats why it sounds worse
super dumb that you didn’t compare the sound on the same surface/environment
Exactly my thoughts, all the effort in vain...
That's the very first thing I noticed. Makes the whole comparison unusable!
As a Wooting owner with the jades, I HIGHLY recommend them to everyone. They are expensive but they sound so much better than the lekkars if you care about that.
Edit: 6 months later there are a bunch of other switches to look at. If you like the CLACK sound the jades are great. I would recommend another switch if you prefer a different sound profile.
Personally I wouldnt recommend them; there will definitely be releases from other companies that follow the same design as the gateron jades after this release.
If anything, there are most definitely companies copying this design as we speak; and since the price of the gateron jades are so high, you can count on similar upcoming switches to come at a much better price than what gateron is scalping consumers for with this product.
@@z3p.hyr_ That goes for literally any other premium switch 💀. IMO if you are buying the wooting 60he then you clearly have enough money to buy premium switches if you wanted to
@@z3p.hyr_ you already spend so much on wooting do you really care about a little extra? plus lekker switches are just as expensive on wooting's website.
most wooting users care about performance. Hows the performance`?
@@sNiPeR95PwnZ It's actually really good. Tbf i would never go back to a mechanical keyboard again after using the Wooting. Lurching is so responsive with 0.1mm, and there is no way that i can achieve the same lurches with a mechanical keyboard due to 0.1mm actuation point for WASD. It's also perfect for supergliding in Apex (An inconsistent movement tech wich can only be consistent with either Wooting or Apex Pro).
Not bad! I actually prefer the stock sound a lot more. Sounds less mute and 'squidgy'.
Geon raptors + OG stem ( Best performance for the price ) , Ks-20u (dual rail ) gateron best without any mod
Have you tried the Raptor HE Gaming switches already? They are pretty good too!
These are great as well, full nylon housing but the bottom housing still has that hole in it. No rattle or spring noise on them though. I went with the Jades simply because I like long pole switches like the NK Cream and Invokeys Matcha Latte switches. I find them much more satisfying to type with.
You are sleeping on the Raptor HE with Lekker stems. Only thing you’ll be sacrificing is RGB.
I have both but I find the raptor HE has too soft a bottom out for me even with the lekker stems. However the wobble is 1000% better on the franken-lekker switches.
Just built a Tofu Redux w/ Wooting 60HE+ w/ these Jade magnetics and holy moly. The best sound and feel for me personally. ENDGAME for me.
did you buy the whole kit or just the case? I am thinking of buying this case as well but don't know if its worth it to buy the whole kit.
you also have raptor switches as an option
A heavier spring would definitely be nice. I'm terrible at typing with lighter switches, unfortunately.
wooting sells springs if you want
Now try geon raptor housing and lekker stem/spring 😈
peak loving my build with them😈
The stock jade is exactly the sound signature that I'm trying to get with my wooting 60he, do you mind sharing the rest of the specs of that build?
Stock jades sound better than the lubed
the stem wobble on the new lekker switch batches is way way better now. definitely worth looking at.
It’s still wobbly as hell
But they are lubed much better tho
Thanks BT; ordered and eagerly waiting
Another question that came to my mind, the first one you gave me your opinion on the other video - Are all HE keyboards (makers) with their magnetic switches have the feature of secondary activation (ex. press W to walk, press harder to Sprint) or it depends on if the switch has such support and respectively the software supplied by the keyboard maker? Thanks for the video.
How about a review for keyboards with optical switches? I started using gateron optical (lubed) KS 22 v2 on a Dark Project keyboard and I kinda like them a lot!
all I want is Kailh to make a box switch variant for these boards. I LOVE the stability they give on my GMMK Pro, and would buy them in a heartbeat for my Wooting
Can you make a comparison berween Jade Magnetic VS Raptor Switches
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How they compare to Nebula and Aurora switches from Keychron ? (their stated as "Gateron Double-Rail Magnetic Switch"
jades are big upgrade from the lekkers. stuck with factory and used them like that. its been amazing
If you are excited for he pcbs for custom keebs matrix actually had a gb recently for the corsa, I hopped on it so I’m pretty excited to see how good a corsa he is
are the Gateron Magnetic Jade Switches better/faster and more responsive then the Lekker Switch - Linear45 (L45)?
no
damn that keyboard survived some serious wear and tear
Not a fan of HE myself but I am glad people who do like them get more options
Why are you not a fan?
wedding ring? congrats!
wholesome moment, cheers!
I have bought them for my Endgame Gear KB65HE and they abosultley do NOT work. I feel like the calibration with the magnets are totally off. With setting the right activation distance you get them to register but them you either get double triggers or endless triggers every time. Since the PCB is an OEM product I assume there will be similar issues the keyboards like the Highground ones.
Did you Ultrasonic clean the switches or just lubed over top of the factory pre lube?
I currently have the yellow Lekker switches, wonder if these jades or the whites would be better...
Hello i have questions about the magnetic switchs how i can make it 4.1 and 0.2mm in my keyboard
BT how you feeling about the 80HE?
What if you put these in a keyboard that didn't have rapid trigger seitches prior? How would you adjust them
Does DKS (Dynamic Keystroke) work with the Jades?
Which case and keycaps you have ?
I want to see somebody do an ergonomic HE keyboard/keypad. That would be endgame for me!
Do the jade switches have the same rapid trigger and actuation as the l60s
4:30
whats up with the 30 and 60 gram switches, just 40 is perfect..
Geon Raptor HE switches >
no, they have more wobble and the jade no lubed sound better
full travel distance >>
leeker stem with raptors clears jades @@Raynoxfps 😴
When you watch this while typing on a Model F its like a whole different universe xD
what case aree you using
I mean, the force of these switches is just unfair but I just don't like that it's 0.1mm less total distance then the first apex pro tkl
I would buy this just for the improvement in wobble.
Have you tried the yellows from wooting
Are these capable with any hot-swappable PCB?
can you compare to lekker 45 switches ?
nice timing, just recieved mine a few hours ago
Do they also have the 0.1 mm actuation?
I mean, I just wish they did 40g Jades... I might be able to frakenswitch the Lekker springs into them, but man, it is teeedious xD
Edit: I just arrived to the end of the video, AND YES!!! BLACK INKS HE WOULD BE DOPE!!!
The raptor switches are supposed to be really good and they're about half the price of jades.
Got these a month ago and they sound amazing !!!
Now, if only there was a pcb mod so they work in preexisting mechanical keyboards
What is actuation distance?
Do jade switches have rapid trigger like lekker
Do you know if these are going to work on the 80he when it comes out?
Sure they will.
is it fit for JTK keycap ?
where can i find the box type silent switches with magnetic ?
are the Lekker switches he's testing the V2?
more or less wooble than the lekker v2 ?
extremely happy with Magnetic Jades on my Wooting module
That’s awesome! I have a question I hope you can help me. I am going to buy a wooting module and want to buy the Jades do you have to install them southfacing ? I saw in many videos that you have to rotate the switches from north to south or south to north I can’t remember sorry.
But if you do have to rotate them did. it affect the rgb a lot? Also which case do you use? Also which keycaps would you recommend ? I didn’t understand yet why exactly the switched need to be rotated that normal keycaps can be used.
I hope you will answer thanks you already 🙏🏼
@@TheMasterTMTheMaster1507Hey whats up. So the RGB on the Wooting Modules are oriented North.
So the windows on the jades just need to face accordingly if you want the full effect.
And trust me you do. The RGB’s on the board look really good ;)
Also I got the Alumaze case from Wooting and then I build the same build for my gf but in the Tofu 60 Redux I might have to get the Tofu 60 cuz it just sounds that much better. The acoustics are so much better…
@@eberhwang23 thank you so much for your reply! So you did rotate all of the switches right? Damn.. i am just scared to brake something haha. i like the tofu aswell! i want to buy the 80HE
@@TheMasterTMTheMaster1507 Hey np. So if im reading you correctly...if you're buying a new wooting module and jade switches all you need to do is make sure the windows on the jade switches are facing the same direction according to where the LEDs are on the module.
LEDs are also oriented North on the 80HE
Whats the difference between the 3.5mm travel vs 4 is it worse?
It just gives you less options in fine tuning your keypresses, but, in practice, the .5mm are barely noticeable at all.
Any cases you recommend?
Salvation or tofu
Can i use for vgn atk68 L version?
what keycaps do you use?
GMK Sumi
Geon Raptor switches with the stems from the lekker is GOATED
Indeed its quite goated! But some users reported that the tighter tolerance came out to have a friction feeling when actuating the switch. I'm not going against what you're saying but it's just a heads up.
Damn those do sound good!
Hi Brandon. I would suggest you do the sound test in the same environment with the same surface. Can't compare sound well when there is no control to the environment.
What keycaps are those??
GMK Sumi
Lubed Jade Switches ASMR just hits different, so relaxing.
How about we don't invite more big, established companies to join the market? They had their chance. They were around for a long time before Wooting, and they didn't do anything even remotely close to what Wooting has done. As far as the Lekker switches go, the stem wobble is barely noticeable, and only if you know exactly what you're feeling for. It's a nit-picky point to even bring up. Fully lubed Lekker switches sound and feel fantastic. If you're coming from literally any Razer keyboard, something from Corsair, Logitech, etc. you're going to be thrilled with Lekkers, and lubing them will put you on cloud 9. By all means though, run to the big names at the first opportunity. Go spend your money with the companies that couldn't be bothered to innovate until Wooting made something for them to steal. Wooting also has the first wrist rest that hasn't fallen apart (looking at you, Logitech) and/or looked like garbage (looking at you, Razer) after a year. Have you ever thought of joining the Wooting Discord and talking to them about what you would like to see them offer? They're a very small team, and they're very receptive to input from their community.
For the life of me, I do not understand why you compromise performance (Wooting is a performance keyboard before all), so I can not understand why you limit its performance by installing switches which may impair performance (talking about the travel distance limitations)
For most people the performance that they seek is low latency with access to rapid trigger. I don’t really know anyone who uses their stock lekers with an actuation 3.5mm or more, so you aren’t really losing performance. It’s just a sound and feel preference with the same performance.
If the wooting already outperforms anything else, what's a small limiting factor when in the end it's still better than a traditional keyboard? People value different things, I like shooters from time to time but I wouldn't even switch to a hall effect board when it limits my switch and layout choice. I don't think Brandon cares either: as long as it feels fast, it's good. This isn't a real pro scene after all where every millisecond could count.
Edit: I actually replied before watching, that doesn't even make any difference to performance of the switches.
@@ZenTunE- it does, when doing analog...
@@kazuzaPT So you have what, 35 different levels of actuation over 40? Not really a big deal, I don't see reason to need that much granular control for anything competitive.
@E- 255 levels from 0.0 to 4.0 mm and most probably with a curve, and also configuring deadzones ...
But yes, one can do whatever he wants. But then again, would probably be better suited with a custom keyboard, not a gaming one .... :)
Where did you get your keycaps?
I want tactile HE switches.
How come these switched sound completely different on below link?
ua-cam.com/video/6jvBlIrev_c/v-deo.html
Its not anywhere close what on your video, is there some modification done to keyboard?
raptors clear
I overluber my lekker switches and lost 8 hours of my life so am just gonna buy the jade's and call it a day😂
💀 sorry for your loss 😂😂😂
they sound great! awww yeaaaaa 😅
RAPTOR HE 🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥
cant stand the jade sound. Stock and lubed. Lekkers just sound better
sure thats a wooting???
Two reasons why I won't switch to hall effect switches are: 1. they are not tactile (cuz they can't be), 2. I'm not that competitive.
this video is laggy af, seems specific to this video since youtube loads others just fine for me just FYI. Also on gigabit connection and beefy PC so that's weird
it's just you dog
@@badmmr nah it's a known issue with ublock origin looked it up
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Ehhh eehh. 😆
Lmao $66 for gaming switches. That's absurd
I’m sure they’ll get cheaper eventually but there aren’t that many options at the moment
@@BTaestheticsdo you have a video on how to make the wooting look like that? Jesus that’s beautiful
mahjong switches? lol they said they’re meant to sound like playing a GAME of mahjong, if u even know wtf that is.
i have a question
so i can swapp my original wooting switches to the jade switches and still be albe to use rapid trigger on the keyboard?
pretty sure you can yeah
why get a wooting just to swap the switches?? that’s basically the whole point of the wooting lmfao
Would these switches work with drunkdeer g75?
what are those keycaps?