These are great as well, full nylon housing but the bottom housing still has that hole in it. No rattle or spring noise on them though. I went with the Jades simply because I like long pole switches like the NK Cream and Invokeys Matcha Latte switches. I find them much more satisfying to type with.
I have both but I find the raptor HE has too soft a bottom out for me even with the lekker stems. However the wobble is 1000% better on the franken-lekker switches.
As a Wooting owner with the jades, I HIGHLY recommend them to everyone. They are expensive but they sound so much better than the lekkars if you care about that. Edit: 6 months later there are a bunch of other switches to look at. If you like the CLACK sound the jades are great. I would recommend another switch if you prefer a different sound profile.
Personally I wouldnt recommend them; there will definitely be releases from other companies that follow the same design as the gateron jades after this release. If anything, there are most definitely companies copying this design as we speak; and since the price of the gateron jades are so high, you can count on similar upcoming switches to come at a much better price than what gateron is scalping consumers for with this product.
@@z3p.hyr_ That goes for literally any other premium switch 💀. IMO if you are buying the wooting 60he then you clearly have enough money to buy premium switches if you wanted to
@@z3p.hyr_ you already spend so much on wooting do you really care about a little extra? plus lekker switches are just as expensive on wooting's website.
@@sNiPeR95PwnZ It's actually really good. Tbf i would never go back to a mechanical keyboard again after using the Wooting. Lurching is so responsive with 0.1mm, and there is no way that i can achieve the same lurches with a mechanical keyboard due to 0.1mm actuation point for WASD. It's also perfect for supergliding in Apex (An inconsistent movement tech wich can only be consistent with either Wooting or Apex Pro).
I mean, I just wish they did 40g Jades... I might be able to frakenswitch the Lekker springs into them, but man, it is teeedious xD Edit: I just arrived to the end of the video, AND YES!!! BLACK INKS HE WOULD BE DOPE!!!
Another question that came to my mind, the first one you gave me your opinion on the other video - Are all HE keyboards (makers) with their magnetic switches have the feature of secondary activation (ex. press W to walk, press harder to Sprint) or it depends on if the switch has such support and respectively the software supplied by the keyboard maker? Thanks for the video.
How about a review for keyboards with optical switches? I started using gateron optical (lubed) KS 22 v2 on a Dark Project keyboard and I kinda like them a lot!
I have bought them for my Endgame Gear KB65HE and they abosultley do NOT work. I feel like the calibration with the magnets are totally off. With setting the right activation distance you get them to register but them you either get double triggers or endless triggers every time. Since the PCB is an OEM product I assume there will be similar issues the keyboards like the Highground ones.
If you are excited for he pcbs for custom keebs matrix actually had a gb recently for the corsa, I hopped on it so I’m pretty excited to see how good a corsa he is
all I want is Kailh to make a box switch variant for these boards. I LOVE the stability they give on my GMMK Pro, and would buy them in a heartbeat for my Wooting
How about we don't invite more big, established companies to join the market? They had their chance. They were around for a long time before Wooting, and they didn't do anything even remotely close to what Wooting has done. As far as the Lekker switches go, the stem wobble is barely noticeable, and only if you know exactly what you're feeling for. It's a nit-picky point to even bring up. Fully lubed Lekker switches sound and feel fantastic. If you're coming from literally any Razer keyboard, something from Corsair, Logitech, etc. you're going to be thrilled with Lekkers, and lubing them will put you on cloud 9. By all means though, run to the big names at the first opportunity. Go spend your money with the companies that couldn't be bothered to innovate until Wooting made something for them to steal. Wooting also has the first wrist rest that hasn't fallen apart (looking at you, Logitech) and/or looked like garbage (looking at you, Razer) after a year. Have you ever thought of joining the Wooting Discord and talking to them about what you would like to see them offer? They're a very small team, and they're very receptive to input from their community.
what's the difference between pvd weight and Aluminum weight? Whats the difference between e-coating vs. Anodized? Jris75 is e-coated. Mkc75 is Anodized. In orang3, i cant tell the difference. For example, the jris75, jris80, and maybe the jris65 have options for pvd weight and Aluminum weight. But the mkc75 only has Aluminum weight Please make a video on pvd vs. Aluminum, e-coating vs. Aluminum. It'd be cool to see a difference in color and material or even acrylic cases like SM keyboards or switch couture vs Aluminum keyboards. No one I've seen seems to be doing comparison on color finishes. That'd be cool to see
Indeed its quite goated! But some users reported that the tighter tolerance came out to have a friction feeling when actuating the switch. I'm not going against what you're saying but it's just a heads up.
That’s awesome! I have a question I hope you can help me. I am going to buy a wooting module and want to buy the Jades do you have to install them southfacing ? I saw in many videos that you have to rotate the switches from north to south or south to north I can’t remember sorry. But if you do have to rotate them did. it affect the rgb a lot? Also which case do you use? Also which keycaps would you recommend ? I didn’t understand yet why exactly the switched need to be rotated that normal keycaps can be used. I hope you will answer thanks you already 🙏🏼
@@TheMasterTMTheMaster1507Hey whats up. So the RGB on the Wooting Modules are oriented North. So the windows on the jades just need to face accordingly if you want the full effect. And trust me you do. The RGB’s on the board look really good ;) Also I got the Alumaze case from Wooting and then I build the same build for my gf but in the Tofu 60 Redux I might have to get the Tofu 60 cuz it just sounds that much better. The acoustics are so much better…
@@eberhwang23 thank you so much for your reply! So you did rotate all of the switches right? Damn.. i am just scared to brake something haha. i like the tofu aswell! i want to buy the 80HE
@@TheMasterTMTheMaster1507 Hey np. So if im reading you correctly...if you're buying a new wooting module and jade switches all you need to do is make sure the windows on the jade switches are facing the same direction according to where the LEDs are on the module. LEDs are also oriented North on the 80HE
How come these switched sound completely different on below link? ua-cam.com/video/6jvBlIrev_c/v-deo.html Its not anywhere close what on your video, is there some modification done to keyboard?
For the life of me, I do not understand why you compromise performance (Wooting is a performance keyboard before all), so I can not understand why you limit its performance by installing switches which may impair performance (talking about the travel distance limitations)
For most people the performance that they seek is low latency with access to rapid trigger. I don’t really know anyone who uses their stock lekers with an actuation 3.5mm or more, so you aren’t really losing performance. It’s just a sound and feel preference with the same performance.
If the wooting already outperforms anything else, what's a small limiting factor when in the end it's still better than a traditional keyboard? People value different things, I like shooters from time to time but I wouldn't even switch to a hall effect board when it limits my switch and layout choice. I don't think Brandon cares either: as long as it feels fast, it's good. This isn't a real pro scene after all where every millisecond could count. Edit: I actually replied before watching, that doesn't even make any difference to performance of the switches.
@@kazuzaPT So you have what, 35 different levels of actuation over 40? Not really a big deal, I don't see reason to need that much granular control for anything competitive.
@E- 255 levels from 0.0 to 4.0 mm and most probably with a curve, and also configuring deadzones ... But yes, one can do whatever he wants. But then again, would probably be better suited with a custom keyboard, not a gaming one .... :)
Hi Brandon. I would suggest you do the sound test in the same environment with the same surface. Can't compare sound well when there is no control to the environment.
this video is laggy af, seems specific to this video since youtube loads others just fine for me just FYI. Also on gigabit connection and beefy PC so that's weird
super dumb that you didn’t compare the sound on the same surface/environment
Exactly my thoughts, all the effort in vain...
That's the very first thing I noticed. Makes the whole comparison unusable!
Stock jade sounded so satisfying
Yeah I kinda prefer the stock jades listening back, was wondering if I should lube mine but I think I'm gonna leave them for a while
@@DrDaveYT he overlubed them in this sound test thats why it sounds worse
Just built a Tofu Redux w/ Wooting 60HE+ w/ these Jade magnetics and holy moly. The best sound and feel for me personally. ENDGAME for me.
Have you tried the Raptor HE Gaming switches already? They are pretty good too!
These are great as well, full nylon housing but the bottom housing still has that hole in it. No rattle or spring noise on them though. I went with the Jades simply because I like long pole switches like the NK Cream and Invokeys Matcha Latte switches. I find them much more satisfying to type with.
You are sleeping on the Raptor HE with Lekker stems. Only thing you’ll be sacrificing is RGB.
I have both but I find the raptor HE has too soft a bottom out for me even with the lekker stems. However the wobble is 1000% better on the franken-lekker switches.
Geon raptors + OG stem ( Best performance for the price ) , Ks-20u (dual rail ) gateron best without any mod
Now try geon raptor housing and lekker stem/spring 😈
peak loving my build with them😈
As a Wooting owner with the jades, I HIGHLY recommend them to everyone. They are expensive but they sound so much better than the lekkars if you care about that.
Edit: 6 months later there are a bunch of other switches to look at. If you like the CLACK sound the jades are great. I would recommend another switch if you prefer a different sound profile.
Personally I wouldnt recommend them; there will definitely be releases from other companies that follow the same design as the gateron jades after this release.
If anything, there are most definitely companies copying this design as we speak; and since the price of the gateron jades are so high, you can count on similar upcoming switches to come at a much better price than what gateron is scalping consumers for with this product.
@@z3p.hyr_ That goes for literally any other premium switch 💀. IMO if you are buying the wooting 60he then you clearly have enough money to buy premium switches if you wanted to
@@z3p.hyr_ you already spend so much on wooting do you really care about a little extra? plus lekker switches are just as expensive on wooting's website.
most wooting users care about performance. Hows the performance`?
@@sNiPeR95PwnZ It's actually really good. Tbf i would never go back to a mechanical keyboard again after using the Wooting. Lurching is so responsive with 0.1mm, and there is no way that i can achieve the same lurches with a mechanical keyboard due to 0.1mm actuation point for WASD. It's also perfect for supergliding in Apex (An inconsistent movement tech wich can only be consistent with either Wooting or Apex Pro).
you also have raptor switches as an option
Not bad! I actually prefer the stock sound a lot more. Sounds less mute and 'squidgy'.
wedding ring? congrats!
wholesome moment, cheers!
Stock jades sound better than the lubed
I mean, I just wish they did 40g Jades... I might be able to frakenswitch the Lekker springs into them, but man, it is teeedious xD
Edit: I just arrived to the end of the video, AND YES!!! BLACK INKS HE WOULD BE DOPE!!!
RAPTOR HE 🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥
Which case and keycaps you have ?
Do the jade switches have the same rapid trigger and actuation as the l60s
4:30
raptors clear
What is actuation distance?
Can you make a comparison berween Jade Magnetic VS Raptor Switches
+
Geon Raptor HE switches >
no, they have more wobble and the jade no lubed sound better
full travel distance >>
leeker stem with raptors clears jades @@Raynoxfps 😴
are the Gateron Magnetic Jade Switches better/faster and more responsive then the Lekker Switch - Linear45 (L45)?
no
A heavier spring would definitely be nice. I'm terrible at typing with lighter switches, unfortunately.
wooting sells springs if you want
sure thats a wooting???
Another question that came to my mind, the first one you gave me your opinion on the other video - Are all HE keyboards (makers) with their magnetic switches have the feature of secondary activation (ex. press W to walk, press harder to Sprint) or it depends on if the switch has such support and respectively the software supplied by the keyboard maker? Thanks for the video.
what case aree you using
How about a review for keyboards with optical switches? I started using gateron optical (lubed) KS 22 v2 on a Dark Project keyboard and I kinda like them a lot!
the stem wobble on the new lekker switch batches is way way better now. definitely worth looking at.
It’s still wobbly as hell
But they are lubed much better tho
Got these a month ago and they sound amazing !!!
Did you Ultrasonic clean the switches or just lubed over top of the factory pre lube?
Thanks BT; ordered and eagerly waiting
I mean, the force of these switches is just unfair but I just don't like that it's 0.1mm less total distance then the first apex pro tkl
Does DKS (Dynamic Keystroke) work with the Jades?
How they compare to Nebula and Aurora switches from Keychron ? (their stated as "Gateron Double-Rail Magnetic Switch"
whats up with the 30 and 60 gram switches, just 40 is perfect..
When you watch this while typing on a Model F its like a whole different universe xD
Do they also have the 0.1 mm actuation?
Ehhh eehh. 😆
I have bought them for my Endgame Gear KB65HE and they abosultley do NOT work. I feel like the calibration with the magnets are totally off. With setting the right activation distance you get them to register but them you either get double triggers or endless triggers every time. Since the PCB is an OEM product I assume there will be similar issues the keyboards like the Highground ones.
its a huge improvement. quite enjoying mine. still not good as top tier mx style switches
Would these switches work with drunkdeer g75?
is it fit for JTK keycap ?
The raptor switches are supposed to be really good and they're about half the price of jades.
Do jade switches have rapid trigger like lekker
damn that keyboard survived some serious wear and tear
Now, if only there was a pcb mod so they work in preexisting mechanical keyboards
If you are excited for he pcbs for custom keebs matrix actually had a gb recently for the corsa, I hopped on it so I’m pretty excited to see how good a corsa he is
I would buy this just for the improvement in wobble.
are the Lekker switches he's testing the V2?
Hello i have questions about the magnetic switchs how i can make it 4.1 and 0.2mm in my keyboard
can you compare to lekker 45 switches ?
What if you put these in a keyboard that didn't have rapid trigger seitches prior? How would you adjust them
I want to see somebody do an ergonomic HE keyboard/keypad. That would be endgame for me!
Are these capable with any hot-swappable PCB?
I want tactile HE switches.
jades are big upgrade from the lekkers. stuck with factory and used them like that. its been amazing
Have you tried the yellows from wooting
more or less wooble than the lekker v2 ?
all I want is Kailh to make a box switch variant for these boards. I LOVE the stability they give on my GMMK Pro, and would buy them in a heartbeat for my Wooting
I currently have the yellow Lekker switches, wonder if these jades or the whites would be better...
How about we don't invite more big, established companies to join the market? They had their chance. They were around for a long time before Wooting, and they didn't do anything even remotely close to what Wooting has done. As far as the Lekker switches go, the stem wobble is barely noticeable, and only if you know exactly what you're feeling for. It's a nit-picky point to even bring up. Fully lubed Lekker switches sound and feel fantastic. If you're coming from literally any Razer keyboard, something from Corsair, Logitech, etc. you're going to be thrilled with Lekkers, and lubing them will put you on cloud 9. By all means though, run to the big names at the first opportunity. Go spend your money with the companies that couldn't be bothered to innovate until Wooting made something for them to steal. Wooting also has the first wrist rest that hasn't fallen apart (looking at you, Logitech) and/or looked like garbage (looking at you, Razer) after a year. Have you ever thought of joining the Wooting Discord and talking to them about what you would like to see them offer? They're a very small team, and they're very receptive to input from their community.
cant stand the jade sound. Stock and lubed. Lekkers just sound better
The stock jade is exactly the sound signature that I'm trying to get with my wooting 60he, do you mind sharing the rest of the specs of that build?
they sound great! awww yeaaaaa 😅
what's the difference between pvd weight and Aluminum weight? Whats the difference between e-coating vs. Anodized? Jris75 is e-coated. Mkc75 is Anodized. In orang3, i cant tell the difference. For example, the jris75, jris80, and maybe the jris65 have options for pvd weight and Aluminum weight. But the mkc75 only has Aluminum weight
Please make a video on pvd vs. Aluminum, e-coating vs. Aluminum. It'd be cool to see a difference in color and material or even acrylic cases like SM keyboards or switch couture vs Aluminum keyboards. No one I've seen seems to be doing comparison on color finishes. That'd be cool to see
where can i find the box type silent switches with magnetic ?
what are those keycaps?
BT how you feeling about the 80HE?
nice timing, just recieved mine a few hours ago
Geon Raptor switches with the stems from the lekker is GOATED
Indeed its quite goated! But some users reported that the tighter tolerance came out to have a friction feeling when actuating the switch. I'm not going against what you're saying but it's just a heads up.
i have a question
so i can swapp my original wooting switches to the jade switches and still be albe to use rapid trigger on the keyboard?
pretty sure you can yeah
Damn those do sound good!
Whats the difference between the 3.5mm travel vs 4 is it worse?
It just gives you less options in fine tuning your keypresses, but, in practice, the .5mm are barely noticeable at all.
extremely happy with Magnetic Jades on my Wooting module
That’s awesome! I have a question I hope you can help me. I am going to buy a wooting module and want to buy the Jades do you have to install them southfacing ? I saw in many videos that you have to rotate the switches from north to south or south to north I can’t remember sorry.
But if you do have to rotate them did. it affect the rgb a lot? Also which case do you use? Also which keycaps would you recommend ? I didn’t understand yet why exactly the switched need to be rotated that normal keycaps can be used.
I hope you will answer thanks you already 🙏🏼
@@TheMasterTMTheMaster1507Hey whats up. So the RGB on the Wooting Modules are oriented North.
So the windows on the jades just need to face accordingly if you want the full effect.
And trust me you do. The RGB’s on the board look really good ;)
Also I got the Alumaze case from Wooting and then I build the same build for my gf but in the Tofu 60 Redux I might have to get the Tofu 60 cuz it just sounds that much better. The acoustics are so much better…
@@eberhwang23 thank you so much for your reply! So you did rotate all of the switches right? Damn.. i am just scared to brake something haha. i like the tofu aswell! i want to buy the 80HE
@@TheMasterTMTheMaster1507 Hey np. So if im reading you correctly...if you're buying a new wooting module and jade switches all you need to do is make sure the windows on the jade switches are facing the same direction according to where the LEDs are on the module.
LEDs are also oriented North on the 80HE
🫨
Do you know if these are going to work on the 80he when it comes out?
Sure they will.
what keycaps do you use?
GMK Sumi
Not a fan of HE myself but I am glad people who do like them get more options
Why are you not a fan?
Can i use for vgn atk68 L version?
What keycaps are those??
GMK Sumi
How come these switched sound completely different on below link?
ua-cam.com/video/6jvBlIrev_c/v-deo.html
Its not anywhere close what on your video, is there some modification done to keyboard?
For the life of me, I do not understand why you compromise performance (Wooting is a performance keyboard before all), so I can not understand why you limit its performance by installing switches which may impair performance (talking about the travel distance limitations)
For most people the performance that they seek is low latency with access to rapid trigger. I don’t really know anyone who uses their stock lekers with an actuation 3.5mm or more, so you aren’t really losing performance. It’s just a sound and feel preference with the same performance.
If the wooting already outperforms anything else, what's a small limiting factor when in the end it's still better than a traditional keyboard? People value different things, I like shooters from time to time but I wouldn't even switch to a hall effect board when it limits my switch and layout choice. I don't think Brandon cares either: as long as it feels fast, it's good. This isn't a real pro scene after all where every millisecond could count.
Edit: I actually replied before watching, that doesn't even make any difference to performance of the switches.
@@ZenTunE- it does, when doing analog...
@@kazuzaPT So you have what, 35 different levels of actuation over 40? Not really a big deal, I don't see reason to need that much granular control for anything competitive.
@E- 255 levels from 0.0 to 4.0 mm and most probably with a curve, and also configuring deadzones ...
But yes, one can do whatever he wants. But then again, would probably be better suited with a custom keyboard, not a gaming one .... :)
Two reasons why I won't switch to hall effect switches are: 1. they are not tactile (cuz they can't be), 2. I'm not that competitive.
Lubed Jade Switches ASMR just hits different, so relaxing.
Where did you get your keycaps?
mahjong switches? lol they said they’re meant to sound like playing a GAME of mahjong, if u even know wtf that is.
Hi Brandon. I would suggest you do the sound test in the same environment with the same surface. Can't compare sound well when there is no control to the environment.
Lmao $66 for gaming switches. That's absurd
I’m sure they’ll get cheaper eventually but there aren’t that many options at the moment
@@BTaestheticsdo you have a video on how to make the wooting look like that? Jesus that’s beautiful
this video is laggy af, seems specific to this video since youtube loads others just fine for me just FYI. Also on gigabit connection and beefy PC so that's weird
it's just you dog
@@badmmr nah it's a known issue with ublock origin looked it up
why get a wooting just to swap the switches?? that’s basically the whole point of the wooting lmfao