We'll continue to post these episodes here on UA-cam. If you can't wait for the rest of the build, visit our site to binge-watch: www.powernationtv.com/shows/engine-power
Since the local cable channel line up quit carrying POWERNATION, KEEP POSTING VIDEOS, miss my Sun. AM programs. Built a small block Ford using an article in Petersons Engines that made a 351 into a 410, until we were able to install a full cage it popped a few windshields, the article claimed mid 4's for HP and TQ but we never put it on a dyno to check. Fun stuff.
Powernation : thanks for wasting my time with this paid advertising. I hope the people here take this for what it is. I have seen engines built built for this type of racing and this is at best a back up sitting in the back of the shed, this is a good street car engine at best.
This is the second time I've tried to get you guys to respond to me. Almost every hot rod show is making the same mistake that you guys are making so listen to me with your good ear this time. It's not OIL GALLERY. There is no such thing!! It's oil galley. Please believe me or find a dictionary and look it up yourself! This old and wore-out wrench turner knows a thing or two!
I used a stock 1975 block. I tediously removed the casting flash throughout, checked for any imperfections, enlarged the oil returns and used a billet steel main stud girdle. Using custom length H-beam rods from eagle and a "hank the crank" 3.25" 4340 steel crankshaft, with ultra light JE pistons and floating pins, the engine holds 90 psi oil pressure, with no issues of oil starvation even at 8500 rpm. The stock early 302 oem blocks will handle 800 hp with the steel girdle, so the aftermarket block isn't necessary for most people. But then, mine is just for the street. lol
@@jondoe6618 Yea they start at 2K and go up to over 3 grand. I am not knocking this build at all but this ain't no budget build. I use junk yard 5.0 explorer motors get them for $2/300 bucks 500hp on the street is plenty fun for me. And if they let go it's no big deal.
@@bigboreracing356 LOL It takes a few Hrs to swap a motor no big deal. And of course Dart blocks are better no one is denying that, They better be for thousands of dollars for just the block. Ill have to go threw 15 engines to spend the same money for just one dart block.
@@mrschwifty5564 Depends what you want to do. To make a sub 11S drag Mustang with a 300 shot of nitrous on a stroked 351 Windsor, assuming you have a diff and trans that can withstand it already, you're looking at about 15k. But we're also talking an engine which at that point would make at least 700-800HP, and over 1400 pound feet of torque. Racing ain't cheap. Also, originally those engines are rated at 215 HP. What're you doing to get another 300HP out of it for apparently no cost?
@@CAepicreviews Ported GT40P heads, Single plane intake, Off the shelf cam, Fitech EFI and boost. All used parts. I am not looking to set records just have fun on the street and not go broke. I have $200 in parts in the heads plus my time to port them, $100 for the intake, $150 for the cam, $800 total in the EFI setup, And $5/600 for the turbo stuff. I know racing ain't cheap but look at the title of the video a little money ? 15K is not a little lol that's all I was trying to get across.
Glad to watch your group supporting the Ohio racing scene. Being an Ohioan it's not just pride and favoritism towards my home state but determination to let the rest if the country know Ohio is not just the pinnacle of auto racing enthusiasts but we have almost all if the top aftermarket high performance companies that also includes the top automotive suppliers Summit Racing and Jegs. It's awesome to see Powernation teaming up with all of these groups to make an awesome video that isn't just a typical dyno engine build!
Thank you for this great video! I have always been impressed with Summit Racing parts, this company has it together and is very professional in their builds, and make some awesome engines and parts!😊
I love the Humility and Gratitude, the Men show, it's my dream to Build Engines, Especially Stroke'r and Diagnostics to bring the Maxium to life, nothing more exciting!
FINALLY, SOMEONE mentioned running at REAL operating temps on dynos. Like under hoods and such. Every dyno operator runs the block water temp at 120F for the"magic number".
I just have to say the fact they chose a pushrod V8 to exceed 7500 RPM and be used in endurance racing, is awesome. Would have gone with a Ford modular myself
It is so fun watching you guys set up a build! I have a 1973 Mustang convertible with a 351C 2v heads, Edelbrock performer manifold with a 4bbl 600 holley. FMX 3 speed trans, want to convert to TREMEC 5-spd, have 3.55 reartend gearing now. I have been looking for a good build specs to get around 500 hp at the flywheel. Probably using aluminum heads. I want to keep it under the hood, i have a mach hood no air induction set up. I just dont see many builds for Clevelands for the street.
@@bmstylee yeah but they made the tittle sound like they were building on a budget. This thing is no budget build. It's an all out pay to play top dollar top shelf sbf build.
@@bmstylee Almost 30yrs ago my hs shop teacher stated : some of you will spend your life making stupid shit go fast , and learn how to take a big pile of money and make it small while doing it. (He had an 8sec car)
@@baddbradd89 Yes. It'd do for slower classes, not any that should be capable of generating more then a G of lateral acceleration, or even higher for braking. In a long constant radius turn, that thing is going to suck air.
baddbradd89 Yup even with that pan it’s not worth going wet sump on a autocross/ road course car. It’ll only take a second of oil starvation to ruin a day at the track.
@@BruceLee-xn3nn And it's an endurance engine. All the experts in the comments don't understand that the "bulletproof" engines they built with parts out of their local junkers wouldn't turn 8k for 20 minutes, never mind for an entire race. You have race teams with huge budgets that spend ungodly sums of money on engine development and they still have failures. "But my hick-rod engine ain't never broke and I does maximum rippums racing all the time". Ok Cletus.
All those BMR guys had to do for that engine is put summit and power nation decals on their car for that motor, it's nice havin sponsers, it's been almost 18 years since i raced but i was lucky to have the sponsers i had, we never would have afforded racing every week otherwise
Hey hey love ya work lads ... handful of years back here in Australia the program was getting a run on a knew channel 7 MATE back 2014 ... geeez I was elated when I heard your voice is through UA-cam autoplay suggestions YER YER ... Ali mistake I seen that you've made little Ford wedge was THE DELIVERY ADDRESS ❤❤❤ hey hey have you got your episode of the over diff turbos set up you guys did as told a good amount of folks about it but very few have seen it in practice 🍻❤🙏💪
What turns me off about this whole build , is it's all aftermarket. The block isn't even a Ford block. Nothing on it is Ford. That's a pricey engine for the average guy to build ☹️
It looks like the timing cover might be stock. lol I removed all the extra cast flash off my oem cover, sanded it and polished it to a mirror, and it looks awesome.
17:20 I have been told that the "Stiction Elminator" oil additive is especially important to the PSD 7.3 and 6.0. That is because of the HEUI injection system. Some heavy Navistar and Cat diesels have HEUI injection, but I don't know how much they benefit from that additive. 18:27 This is why some people spray weld a high nickel alloy on the undersized crank journals. It reduces the loss of durability in an offset ground crank. Also, it makes possible the use of standard size connecting rods. Some people will offset grind a crank, then weld the journal diameter to that of a more common engine. That enables the use of connecting rods from other engines. I have heard that SBC and BBC rods are used in some cases. Piston compression height may change, and that may mean using a different kind of piston.
Great build guys, a 351W. Modified to a 357 magnum power plant is hopeful in my "89" Bronco's near future. The inline 6 build is so tempting tho.......
I'm more into tuners...I've owned 4 turbo Supras now and other turbo tuner cars I have to say that it's very impressive to see 575hp all motor on pump gas. From a small block at that.
I have to say that it's very impressive to see 575hp all motor on pump gas. From a small block at that. I'm a Ford blue blood that likes all engines. my 17* 399ci 1st gen SBC makes 641 hp@6400 and 560 ft lbs@5700 on 89 pump gas with 10.7 to 1.
a cast solid roller? doesn't sound endurancy to me. also you failed to note that .613" lift is with a 1.6 rocker arm. about .651" with your 1.7 rockers. and it would have made better power and a flatter curve using a 1.6 on the exhaust and lengthening the ex duration a few degrees. another endurance item I would note is the sportsman shaft rockers do not have spring oilers or pressure fed trunnion bearings. I've used the sportsman T&D's but at least modified them for a gravity fed trunnion. that 550# open pressure, is that at .613" or .651"?
Can the pipe plugs be drilled with a small hole to do the thing but not starve the front components of oil on startup? I'm surprised this doesn't have a triple angle valve angle cut.
The video showed the front plug not drilled but the rear drilled to control flow, as far as oil starved they put plenty of assembly lube on the components to take care of initial start, doubt they pull anything over a high idle till oil pressure comes up. Old trick is to have a pump drive to hook into a drill and run it till oil is coming out of everything that should get oiled plus pressure on gauge then install distributor.
My apologies for being completely out of my league here, but I was just wondering why, after all of these years of block, head, and manifold production why none of the parts are channeled with heavy duty O rings instead of relying on "glued" flat gaskets with silicone ? I work in industrial HVAC with some engine driven compressors which use a variety of engines from GM 454s to Waukesha and Cat diesels converted to natural gas. All of the tech and computer monitoring, and one of the biggest nuisances are gasket leaks from factory built engines. I've worked on Honda and Nissan engines that have a lot of hours on them and they are clean. Only 1 toyota engine had a slight leak from the distributer because the o ring was dry and twisted up. The installer forgot to lube it.
bulletproof block,forged rotating assembly(crank,rods,pistons)decked ..... wicked heads,massive solid roller cam..... its a 20k 575 horsepower screamer that will rev to 8000 rpm for hours on end
I seen a guy put a 150 shot of nitrous on a 500 cubic inch Cadillac engine (a 1975 Cadillac sedan) all stock, and was shocked at how fast it was. A 5,000 pound car going from 0 to 60 in about 6 seconds. Not super fast but much faster than the engine by itself which was about 11 seconds
@@bertgrau9246, I've played with the Cad big blocks, and they are a great engine! Head design, bore/stroke ratio, iron content, and little things like front located distributor, rocker shafts, only 50 lbs heavier than a SBC, etc.! Not an RPM engine, but they can handle abuse!
@@dahei870 I like running each stage over and over until the first bolts stop moving.... Go back and check em , you'll be surprised. it's worked for me. (on a head for example)
Your definition of "little bit of money" differs from mine by atleast two zeros... I was thinking like a couple hundred, ha silly me "little money". Gonna go hit my bong for the science aspect of it, yup.
To me a poor man build is a 351 block from a econo van. Put a billet girdle on it and bullet proof rotating assy. I ate a lot of bologna sandwiches to have it
Fix issue with long timing cover bolts that go through water pump and timing cover. You know where the rust in, break off and leak coolant. I cut timing cover for O-rings and just silicone cover to block
I wish there were channels with this level of production quality that talked about something other than American OHV engines and didn't have more money than jesus for every build.
I have an old car, I would like to strengthen the engine in it, what parts should I replace? Please help, I need your information large piston, thick piston rods, large crankshaft is it enough to power the engine Please
@@sategllib2191 The car is 150 horsepower original state, I want to extract 300 hp I have no purpose. Just for pleasure...The car is now full of beds. I disassembled the engine of the car. There is a problem with the crankshaft. There is a problem in the arms of the piston..M9R block, engine used in Nissan and Renault.I don't want to trash the car. I want to strengthen them...
@@PANTYEATR1 they didnt but some math on a flat top 363 with 11r heads would be 10 or 11 to 1 with the size combustion chmber an 11r uses. Not hard to figure it out if you wanted to know an exact figure
@@KingJT80 i didn't bother looking into it. i have a 427 with about 10.8:1 compression and i made 434hp and 474tq to the wheels. I'm a little salty i didn't make more, but i think i might have another 20hp in it
@@mikecorleone6797 it would be cool if the adjustment switch on the back of an impact wrench were calibrated to specific torque values like at a factory
Hi volume oil pump bad idea!!! and its also the cheapo melling oil pump...not the $100 unit. Even with 7 quart pan and dual oil filter isolators high volume not good. You want the HD high performance pump
It did not need that sniper 1250 hp unit on it. The 600hp would have been fine. I run the 1250 on 2 of my vehicles one is N/A one is boosted and a 575 hp engine dont need that much fuel.
Did I see you place a shim under the Rocker shaft stand base ? What is that shim for ? Proper rocker arm height ? Yea but now he's not going to be able to keep the car under him in the corner's a whole new learning curve begins ..
I wish I could have you guys build an engine for me, I’m from Florida and I have a father son project that I am trying to get done with my son . Just moneys kind of tight right now, I have a stock 302 mustang engine that needs to be refreshed. I love watching you guys when you build Ford engines, I just wish I had the funds to get something done. Keep up the great videos
Look into Ford groups, you can probably find someone that can help you out cheap or even just for something to do. I'm in Alabama, if the situation was a bit different and you were closer I'd offer. I build engines on the side for fun. 400HP out of a nice mannered 289 or 302 is pretty damn easy. Still runs AC and vacuum accessories without issue.
If it’s a stock 302 2 bolt you really don’t want to go above 500hp. This is a dart 302 4 bolt which easily can hold 1000hp plus. My 93 302 block is at 485hp and runs great!
If you're ever in need of a good laugh, just take a good look at the oil pan on these Fords: Two drain plugs? That style of pan is so annoying to work on.
Want a 302/351 to never split? Get it internally balanced. Splitting in these blocks is caused from the main caps "walking" under high RPM loads. The reason? When these are produced they are made with an imbalance that will cause the crank to flex at high RPM loads as either end of it is weighted. When this happens it is G'night block. By internally balancing them on an aftermarket crank (stockers are too small) you are able to push retarded high RPM (typically safe to around 8k) and when you are using a cam and cylinder head that can take advantage of it...will make an obscene amount of power. Research it for yourself. Almost ALL ford splits are at/near the mains on these engines and a girdle, windage tray or even align hone will not save it because the CRANK is flexing inside the assembly. Internally balanced engine = happy days.
I have a 900 hp small block fordin my 2017 mustang that is all ford for about the same money they dropped on this set up and I can dial it up to 1200 hp by adding a little more boost out of the 55 mm turbos I installed. They have about $12,000 to $15,000 in this engine and I have $13,800 into mine including sleeving the cylinders.
The added 6 hp is probably from going to 34 degrees of timing not fuel injection, it probably lost hp due to the efi. Even tho it makes alot more power than the other motor it wont take long before they want more power, you get used to it fast.
Did you notice when they started to install the cam it looked like it had rust on the lobes? I guess that's not a big deal on a roller cam but I would have sent it back in favor of a rust free unit.
they should have gotten a 400 cube build and a little more tq and hp so the engine doesn't have to try as hard for the 580 hp maybe some slightly bigger heads.
We'll continue to post these episodes here on UA-cam. If you can't wait for the rest of the build, visit our site to binge-watch: www.powernationtv.com/shows/engine-power
Since the local cable channel line up quit carrying POWERNATION, KEEP POSTING VIDEOS, miss my Sun. AM programs. Built a small block Ford using an article in Petersons Engines that made a 351 into a 410, until we were able to install a full cage it popped a few windshields, the article claimed mid 4's for HP and TQ but we never put it on a dyno to check. Fun stuff.
Powernation : thanks for wasting my time with this paid advertising.
I hope the people here take this for what it is.
I have seen engines built built for this type of racing and this is at best a back up sitting in the back of the shed, this is a good street car engine at best.
This is the second time I've tried to get you guys to respond to me. Almost every hot rod show is making the same mistake that you guys are making so listen to me with your good ear this time. It's not OIL GALLERY. There is no such thing!! It's oil galley. Please believe me or find a dictionary and look it up yourself! This old and wore-out wrench turner knows a thing or two!
Show parts of the race, win lose or draw!
I used a stock 1975 block. I tediously removed the casting flash throughout, checked for any imperfections, enlarged the oil returns and used a billet steel main stud girdle. Using custom length H-beam rods from eagle and a "hank the crank" 3.25" 4340 steel crankshaft, with ultra light JE pistons and floating pins, the engine holds 90 psi oil pressure, with no issues of oil starvation even at 8500 rpm. The stock early 302 oem blocks will handle 800 hp with the steel girdle, so the aftermarket block isn't necessary for most people. But then, mine is just for the street. lol
@@thomasdaddio741 10.9:1. I get away with premium pump gas because the cam is quite large, and I run a 5000 rpm torque converter. :D
You guys work so well together. You really make this show work!
They just built my dream engine! I'm a Ford small block super fan. Used to be into Mustangs, but now it's all vintage Ford 4x4s
A little money....starts the build with a $3,000+ Dart block.
about 2g. We split 6 oem blocke before the dart block.
@@jondoe6618 Yea they start at 2K and go up to over 3 grand. I am not knocking this build at all but this ain't no budget build. I use junk yard 5.0 explorer motors get them for $2/300 bucks 500hp on the street is plenty fun for me. And if they let go it's no big deal.
@@bigboreracing356 LOL It takes a few Hrs to swap a motor no big deal. And of course Dart blocks are better no one is denying that, They better be for thousands of dollars for just the block. Ill have to go threw 15 engines to spend the same money for just one dart block.
@@mrschwifty5564 Depends what you want to do. To make a sub 11S drag Mustang with a 300 shot of nitrous on a stroked 351 Windsor, assuming you have a diff and trans that can withstand it already, you're looking at about 15k. But we're also talking an engine which at that point would make at least 700-800HP, and over 1400 pound feet of torque.
Racing ain't cheap. Also, originally those engines are rated at 215 HP. What're you doing to get another 300HP out of it for apparently no cost?
@@CAepicreviews Ported GT40P heads, Single plane intake, Off the shelf cam, Fitech EFI and boost. All used parts. I am not looking to set records just have fun on the street and not go broke. I have $200 in parts in the heads plus my time to port them, $100 for the intake, $150 for the cam, $800 total in the EFI setup, And $5/600 for the turbo stuff. I know racing ain't cheap but look at the title of the video a little money ? 15K is not a little lol that's all I was trying to get across.
Glad to watch your group supporting the Ohio racing scene. Being an Ohioan it's not just pride and favoritism towards my home state but determination to let the rest if the country know Ohio is not just the pinnacle of auto racing enthusiasts but we have almost all if the top aftermarket high performance companies that also includes the top automotive suppliers Summit Racing and Jegs. It's awesome to see Powernation teaming up with all of these groups to make an awesome video that isn't just a typical dyno engine build!
Thank you for this great video! I have always been impressed with Summit Racing parts, this company has it together and is very professional in their builds, and make some awesome engines and parts!😊
I love the Humility and Gratitude, the Men show, it's my dream to Build Engines, Especially Stroke'r and Diagnostics to bring the Maxium to life, nothing more exciting!
If this engine is triple the HP they had before, what were they running before a 4 cylinder?
Stock reman 302
5.0 mustang's ranged from 215 to 235 hp. I know right? They spun the tires because of the terrible suspension, not the horsepower lol.
No this is a Dirt or whatever after market block, POS 302 would split in half.
Ray,
I agree, they must have had a very poor running V8.
They compare stock netHP to engine dyno grossHP...
FINALLY, SOMEONE mentioned running at REAL operating temps on dynos. Like under hoods and such. Every dyno operator runs the block water temp at 120F for the"magic number".
30 second sweeps are not tv friendly lol
Sweet build! I liked the the rundown on the strokers at the end too👍
I just have to say the fact they chose a pushrod V8 to exceed 7500 RPM and be used in endurance racing, is awesome. Would have gone with a Ford modular myself
Why? Pushrod engines are simpler and they're a proven design. A pushrod V8 is what Ford used to beat Ferrari at LeMans in the 60s.
I appreciate, the show moves along at a good pace...
😁
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It is so fun watching you guys set up a build! I have a 1973 Mustang convertible with a 351C 2v heads, Edelbrock performer manifold with a 4bbl 600 holley. FMX 3 speed trans, want to convert to TREMEC 5-spd, have 3.55 reartend gearing now. I have been looking for a good build specs to get around 500 hp at the flywheel. Probably using aluminum heads. I want to keep it under the hood, i have a mach hood no air induction set up. I just dont see many builds for Clevelands for the street.
"A little money".....
Just a little bit
Racin costs money. How fast ya want to go?
@@bmstylee yeah but they made the tittle sound like they were building on a budget. This thing is no budget build. It's an all out pay to play top dollar top shelf sbf build.
*spends nearly 11 grand
@@bmstylee
Almost 30yrs ago my hs shop teacher stated : some of you will spend your life making stupid shit go fast , and learn how to take a big pile of money and make it small while doing it.
(He had an 8sec car)
Amish Mike is a great hand model, that work on the oil pan is some his best.
It's all the Palmolive they installed the cam and lifters with.
Wet sump on a circuit racing engine,.. baffles can only do so much against continuous g-loading.
? did you even look at the pan?
@@baddbradd89 Yes. It'd do for slower classes, not any that should be capable of generating more then a G of lateral acceleration, or even higher for braking. In a long constant radius turn, that thing is going to suck air.
baddbradd89 Yup even with that pan it’s not worth going wet sump on a autocross/ road course car.
It’ll only take a second of oil starvation to ruin a day at the track.
That's why a dry sump system is better for racing the whole system is made to keep the engine supplied with oil
Rules require wet sump
This is a huge advertisement in disguise.
I just ❤❤❤❤❤ this😂😂😂😂😂
Thats one clean fox. Nice.
Thanks for the knowledge guys
Fan "how much is a little?"
Power Nation "about $12,000"
Fan 🤔
That’s no lie lol
Yea but for a racing application, 12k isn't bad
Cheap
Reliable
Fast
You can only pick two.
We tripled the horsepower of this engine by spending $8000 on racing parts. sCiEiNcE
They don't want it to fly apart
@@BruceLee-xn3nn And it's an endurance engine. All the experts in the comments don't understand that the "bulletproof" engines they built with parts out of their local junkers wouldn't turn 8k for 20 minutes, never mind for an entire race.
You have race teams with huge budgets that spend ungodly sums of money on engine development and they still have failures.
"But my hick-rod engine ain't never broke and I does maximum rippums racing all the time".
Ok Cletus.
Oval Short track engines still have the hardest life
Rob H who races anything with 200 hp for starters
@@BruceLee-xn3nn precisely why they didn't put an ls in it ;) They didn't want it to fly apart...
The timing explation was great
PAT from Power Nation , enough pens in your pocket lmfao 😂😂
oh no! not the drill on the rod bolts! you guys are gonna give someone a heart attack out there
All those BMR guys had to do for that engine is put summit and power nation decals on their car for that motor, it's nice havin sponsers, it's been almost 18 years since i raced but i was lucky to have the sponsers i had, we never would have afforded racing every week otherwise
Well POWERNATION you and I have much different ideas about "a little money"! Sweet engine though.
well that’s because you have never raced and never will. You are uneducated so obviously you have different definitions compared to reality.
Pretty slick and green does get the job done
NICE!! Good work!!
Awesome , thanks very much , excellent content . I always watch the adds in case you’re featuring a product useful to me .
Hey hey love ya work lads ... handful of years back here in Australia the program was getting a run on a knew channel 7 MATE back 2014 ... geeez I was elated when I heard your voice is through UA-cam autoplay suggestions YER YER ... Ali mistake I seen that you've made little Ford wedge was THE DELIVERY ADDRESS ❤❤❤ hey hey have you got your episode of the over diff turbos set up you guys did as told a good amount of folks about it but very few have seen it in practice 🍻❤🙏💪
What turns me off about this whole build , is it's all aftermarket. The block isn't even a Ford block. Nothing on it is Ford. That's a pricey engine for the average guy to build ☹️
At 570hp a 351 Windsor block would be fine.
It looks like the timing cover might be stock. lol I removed all the extra cast flash off my oem cover, sanded it and polished it to a mirror, and it looks awesome.
This is Purpose Built ....
No place for OEM ....
How many people on here are racing on this track with them? NONE!
So what?
17:20 I have been told that the "Stiction Elminator" oil additive is especially important to the PSD 7.3 and 6.0. That is because of the HEUI injection system. Some heavy Navistar and Cat diesels have HEUI injection, but I don't know how much they benefit from that additive.
18:27 This is why some people spray weld a high nickel alloy on the undersized crank journals. It reduces the loss of durability in an offset ground crank. Also, it makes possible the use of standard size connecting rods. Some people will offset grind a crank, then weld the journal diameter to that of a more common engine. That enables the use of connecting rods from other engines. I have heard that SBC and BBC rods are used in some cases. Piston compression height may change, and that may mean using a different kind of piston.
Ive heard this on purpose built dyno engines ,they use smaller diameter rods to rev faster .
In the first Engine Masters contest the winning FORD 366 pump gas engine with a flat tappet cam made 1.66 hp / cu in.
Great build guys, a 351W.
Modified to a 357 magnum power plant is hopeful in my "89" Bronco's near future. The inline 6 build is so tempting tho.......
I'm doing a 408w for my sn95. Next year hopefully I'll build a fox with the new 7.3 Ford gas engine
@@CanIbeFrank
There's just something magical about the 409 displacement. The Ford w.sb seems to pull it off nicely. Best wishes on your build.
I'm more into tuners...I've owned 4 turbo Supras now and other turbo tuner cars
I have to say that it's very impressive to see 575hp all motor on pump gas. From a small block at that.
I have to say that it's very impressive to see 575hp all motor on pump gas. From a small block at that.
I'm a Ford blue blood that likes all engines. my 17* 399ci 1st gen SBC makes 641 hp@6400 and 560 ft lbs@5700 on 89 pump gas with 10.7 to 1.
Pat was Soo excited!!!
16:20 sweet car
a cast solid roller? doesn't sound endurancy to me. also you failed to note that .613" lift is with a 1.6 rocker arm. about .651" with your 1.7 rockers. and it would have made better power and a flatter curve using a 1.6 on the exhaust and lengthening the ex duration a few degrees. another endurance item I would note is the sportsman shaft rockers do not have spring oilers or pressure fed trunnion bearings. I've used the sportsman T&D's but at least modified them for a gravity fed trunnion. that 550# open pressure, is that at .613" or .651"?
Need to find out where you got the green distributor cap
Bit light on the oil on install of the cam .... ouch.
Maybe, but rollers don't need to break in like flat tappet.
It’ll get primed before start up.
come on guys! I wanna see that foxbody rip! ride along and film it for the show please :D
Can the pipe plugs be drilled with a small hole to do the thing but not starve the front components of oil on startup? I'm surprised this doesn't have a triple angle valve angle cut.
The video showed the front plug not drilled but the rear drilled to control flow, as far as oil starved they put plenty of assembly lube on the components to take care of initial start, doubt they pull anything over a high idle till oil pressure comes up. Old trick is to have a pump drive to hook into a drill and run it till oil is coming out of everything that should get oiled plus pressure on gauge then install distributor.
I'm sure the TFS 11R heads have at least 3 valve angles.
My apologies for being completely out of my league here, but I was just wondering why, after all of these years of block, head, and manifold production why none of the parts are channeled with heavy duty O rings instead of relying on "glued" flat gaskets with silicone ? I work in industrial HVAC with some engine driven compressors which use a variety of engines from GM 454s to Waukesha and Cat diesels converted to natural gas. All of the tech and computer monitoring, and one of the biggest nuisances are gasket leaks from factory built engines. I've worked on Honda and Nissan engines that have a lot of hours on them and they are clean. Only 1 toyota engine had a slight leak from the distributer because the o ring was dry and twisted up. The installer forgot to lube it.
They o ring these souped up diesel engines running a ton of boost.
Ive asked that for years... and personally I think it just boils down to cost.
575 on a engine dyno is 475 wheel or so depending on transmission and differential right
Man, the experts are out today! I think I'll listen to what Pat says instead of some internet keyboard wizards....
Did y’all increase any bearing clearances for the HV/HP oil pump?
You guys do a great job! Would luv to see screw ups you've done and learned from so we can learn from them also. Best : )
when you have the unlimited budget and tons of experience,screw-ups are extremely minimal and all edited out.
8000 RPM endurance engine. Wow that's seriously cool
Nice heads, good cam. Intake. Big carb. That’s about it.
bulletproof block,forged rotating assembly(crank,rods,pistons)decked ..... wicked heads,massive solid roller cam..... its a 20k 575 horsepower screamer that will rev to 8000 rpm for hours on end
Not a Ford guy, but I'll take it!!! Great components across the board! Would like to see this thing run with a 200hp shot of nitrous!
how can you not be a ford guy??
I seen a guy put a 150 shot of nitrous on a 500 cubic inch Cadillac engine (a 1975 Cadillac sedan) all stock, and was shocked at how fast it was. A 5,000 pound car going from 0 to 60 in about 6 seconds. Not super fast but much faster than the engine by itself which was about 11 seconds
@@bertgrau9246, I've played with the Cad big blocks, and they are a great engine! Head design, bore/stroke ratio, iron content, and little things like front located distributor, rocker shafts, only 50 lbs heavier than a SBC, etc.! Not an RPM engine, but they can handle abuse!
Pro tip, don't trust the tailgate to no pop open. That high dollar engine would be all over the highway if it did!
😬impact gun to put bolts in 😬
i was thinking the same thing. could be inconsistent
@@dahei870 I like running each stage over and over until the first bolts stop moving....
Go back and check em , you'll be surprised.
it's worked for me. (on a head for example)
Your definition of "little bit of money" differs from mine by atleast two zeros... I was thinking like a couple hundred, ha silly me "little money". Gonna go hit my bong for the science aspect of it, yup.
Was quoted $33,000 to build this in Australia. Damn
When they drop this mill into the chassis.....they're going to have to rethink a lot of the suspension, it looks to me.
Here's another little secret, there's no such thing is a little bit of money and a lot of horsepower. A dart block is not cheap.
Devin Powers dart*. Know your shit
"A little money" compared to running a Porsche or Ferrari, its all relative...
@@nathanhighvoltage5259 auto correct. Sorry bud.
To me a poor man build is a 351 block from a econo van. Put a billet girdle on it and bullet proof rotating assy. I ate a lot of bologna sandwiches to have it
I've seen old over priced junk on Facebook,dart block isnt that much more.
Fix issue with long timing cover bolts that go through water pump and timing cover. You know where the rust in, break off and leak coolant. I cut timing cover for O-rings and just silicone cover to block
I wish there were channels with this level of production quality that talked about something other than American OHV engines and didn't have more money than jesus for every build.
I'd like to see them build a BMW engine, for example.
I have an old car, I would like to strengthen the engine in it, what parts should I replace?
Please help, I need your information
large piston, thick piston rods, large crankshaft
is it enough to power the engine
Please
Too many variables... Different engines have different weak points... And almost all upgrades are subject to what you want to do with the car..
@@sategllib2191 The car is 150 horsepower original state, I want to extract 300 hp I have no purpose. Just for pleasure...The car is now full of beds. I disassembled the engine of the car. There is a problem with the crankshaft. There is a problem in the arms of the piston..M9R block, engine used in Nissan and Renault.I don't want to trash the car. I want to strengthen them...
i might have missed it, but did they mention the compression ratio?
Judging by the flat top pistons, heads, and the pump gas test in the low 10 to 1 range..
@@robh9577 is this a guess or did they say that? if they mentioned it, can I get the time where they have that info? thanks
@@PANTYEATR1 they didnt but some math on a flat top 363 with 11r heads would be 10 or 11 to 1 with the size combustion chmber an 11r uses. Not hard to figure it out if you wanted to know an exact figure
@@KingJT80 i didn't bother looking into it. i have a 427 with about 10.8:1 compression and i made 434hp and 474tq to the wheels. I'm a little salty i didn't make more, but i think i might have another 20hp in it
what became of the race car? how did they do?
Blake love Mike ....
Science being money, tons and tons of it.
Wow... Heads look like 2v Cleveland or an old 302Boss type. Clevor stuff.
Outstanding!
So how can i get my 1/2 inch impact to tighten to specific rod and main ft pounds? That would make life so much easier
Torque sticks. Extensions made to twist. But torque wrenches are far more accurate. Ps- If you're joking, I get it.
big Hurtt it was sarcasm
@@mikecorleone6797 it would be cool if the adjustment switch on the back of an impact wrench were calibrated to specific torque values like at a factory
Yeah, man SCIENCE!!
jack002tuber right on mr white.....science! Made me laugh
Were all the parts (including the block & crank) made in the USA? If not, what parts are not.
Hi volume oil pump bad idea!!! and its also the cheapo melling oil pump...not the $100 unit. Even with 7 quart pan and dual oil filter isolators high volume not good. You want the HD high performance pump
I would love to see the 445fe maxx out drag race engines all the way.
What compression is it
There was not one thing a lil money could buy in this video 😂
It did not need that sniper 1250 hp unit on it. The 600hp would have been fine. I run the 1250 on 2 of my vehicles one is N/A one is boosted and a 575 hp engine dont need that much fuel.
What is the blue assembly oil you're using on the cam and followers?
Super tomcat piss
@@jayward2662 thought it was dragon sperm
@@tjlovesrachel stp I wouldn't know about the reproductive juices out of anything but me lol.
Or royal purple
Did I see you place a shim under the Rocker shaft stand base ? What is that shim for ? Proper rocker arm height ? Yea but now he's not going to be able to keep the car under him in the corner's a whole new learning curve begins ..
Shim is for rocker tip alignment.
I wish I could have you guys build an engine for me, I’m from Florida and I have a father son project that I am trying to get done with my son . Just moneys kind of tight right now, I have a stock 302 mustang engine that needs to be refreshed. I love watching you guys when you build Ford engines, I just wish I had the funds to get something done. Keep up the great videos
Look into Ford groups, you can probably find someone that can help you out cheap or even just for something to do.
I'm in Alabama, if the situation was a bit different and you were closer I'd offer. I build engines on the side for fun.
400HP out of a nice mannered 289 or 302 is pretty damn easy. Still runs AC and vacuum accessories without issue.
@@glenwaldrop8166 I may do it. A 302 with AFR185s and their renegade single plane intake would do it with with a holley 600DP and 10 to 1
A little science + a shit ton of money = triple the power? I bloody well hope so with an engine filled with aftermarket racing parts.
Pat the pollock gets excited.
Too many builders really don't know about engine blueprinting. Hope this video helps.
How much to make 347 stroker Square for fox body I want to add pro charger down the road
575 hp on pump gas from 363 cuin. That would be 478 hp if the engine was a 302. So it is possible for a 302 to make 500 hp.
If it’s a stock 302 2 bolt you really don’t want to go above 500hp. This is a dart 302 4 bolt which easily can hold 1000hp plus. My 93 302 block is at 485hp and runs great!
A 5.0 modular motor has around 460hp or so stock. If you want to deal with wires and such
@@refiii9499 Show me video
Did not get to hear engine on Dyno pulls enough what a rip
If you're ever in need of a good laugh, just take a good look at the oil pan on these Fords: Two drain plugs? That style of pan is so annoying to work on.
Want a 302/351 to never split? Get it internally balanced. Splitting in these blocks is caused from the main caps "walking" under high RPM loads. The reason? When these are produced they are made with an imbalance that will cause the crank to flex at high RPM loads as either end of it is weighted. When this happens it is G'night block.
By internally balancing them on an aftermarket crank (stockers are too small) you are able to push retarded high RPM (typically safe to around 8k) and when you are using a cam and cylinder head that can take advantage of it...will make an obscene amount of power.
Research it for yourself. Almost ALL ford splits are at/near the mains on these engines and a girdle, windage tray or even align hone will not save it because the CRANK is flexing inside the assembly. Internally balanced engine = happy days.
Is there a way to see your videos in sequential order?
Built Honda K series. A turbo, 1000hp
Pointing to the valves backwards... Intake small, exhaust big
I have a 900 hp small block fordin my 2017 mustang that is all ford for about the same money they dropped on this set up and I can dial it up to 1200 hp by adding a little more boost out of the 55 mm turbos I installed. They have about $12,000 to $15,000 in this engine and I have $13,800 into mine including sleeving the cylinders.
The added 6 hp is probably from going to 34 degrees of timing not fuel injection, it probably lost hp due to the efi. Even tho it makes alot more power than the other motor it wont take long before they want more power, you get used to it fast.
What was the Compression Ratio? FYI, Bucyrus, OH has some of the best Bratwurst I have ever had...
Humm got more generous with the oil on the lifters ...... Than the Cam ...
Did you notice when they started to install the cam it looked like it had rust on the lobes? I guess that's not a big deal on a roller cam but I would have sent it back in favor of a rust free unit.
priority oiling (the science) and pricey parts almost triples the (stock?) power in the target vehicle. clickbait in my book.
I need those heads for my 302HO
How much did this motor cost?
verry good
When did this episode came out?
they should have gotten a 400 cube build and a little more tq and hp so the engine doesn't have to try as hard for the 580 hp maybe some slightly bigger heads.
Ther may be a cu in limit in the class they run. And you want to turn rpm in an endurance engine and rev quick out of a corner
Aye Bucyrus, Ohio my hometown!
Here’s the science: BIG ASS ENGINE.