Modern 410ci Stroker Windsor with Custom EFI & Coil-Near-Plug Conversion - Engine Power S9, E14 & 15
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- Опубліковано 4 чер 2024
- This Small Block Ford receives big power upgrades, including a forged rotating assembly, competition-ported cylinder heads, and a supremely accurate crank trigger system. We’re expecting great numbers in the dyno cell for the 410ci Small Block Ford, after it receives an aggressive intake manifold, a custom coil-on-plug conversion, and a powerful EFI system!
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@37:27 why did you guys set the fuel pressure so high? Aren't those injectors rated at 43 psi? did you tap out the duty cycle at 43 psi so you turned it up to 63? Awesome build/setup, really enjoyed this one.. I use the Terminator X on a Foxbody streetcar and a Dominator on a racecar. Definitely one of, if not the best... OK, it is THE BEST engine management on the market!
How can I get the full list of parts to build this motor, or what would it cost to get the same exact motor
@@joshshinskey2372 @0:51 They rattle off the parts list right here. It's a 351 based block bored and stroked to 410" with Eagle crank/rods, Mahle pistons, AFR 220 heads and a Holley Hi-Ram intake.
Basic pump gas SBF.
@@joshshinskey2372 They mention every parts detail throughout the video as well, including the camshaft.. get out a crayon and paper and start making the list. They use a factory block so that's quite a bit of savings right there.
Impressive engine for a -20cc dish piston and fairly mild camshaft, i bet with a flattop, an 11r head and solid roller it would make a significant amount more power and torque.
I am working on restoring my first vehicle, a 1979 F100 Ranger XLT. I am wondering if y’all possibly have a full build sheet that I could go off to build this myself or have a shop do? I want to keep it true and blue and keep it Ford powered, and coyote swaps have just gotten ridiculously expensive, everyone LS swaps everything, that’s not my style. It has a 351m in it but I came across this build and think it’s perfect for what I wanna do.
finally a show that actually appreciates ford stuff and does cool things with their motors......unlike engine masters where its all Chevy and Mopar and all they do is a stupid intake manifold test on a 351
I'm a Chevy guy and I 100% agree. I like how they do Cadillac, olds and Buick on here too
@@gabriellindig What about Pontiac V8s
I always wonder why they avoid Ford stuff.
They banned Ford mod motors on engine masters when the mod motors all won on their engine build off a few years ago. John Kaase swept all the competition. After that their rules changed to push rod only.
your wrong kid
You can tell that Pat is the real deal by the number of pens in his pocket. He's at the boss level. Lol.
A man rocking a pocket protector who is an engine builder. He is definitely engineering oriented.
Dude i was guna say the same exact thing!! Anyone walks into a room with a pocket like that you shut up and listen.
Damnum right! These guys are great, Professor Pat, rare person nice guy, doctorate knowledge level, talented yet humble. These guys rock
We need more Pat and Frankie videos. You two have great chemistry and put out amazing videos.
Father and son , How much better can life be. I think it's awesome.
Mike & Pat > Mike & Frankie
@@bmstylee absolutely.
@@steventaylor5260 hell yeh i wish my Dad would have had the same interests as me, bikes and cars. I’d have loved to have heard, c’mon son, time to work on that 428 CJ for your 67’ fastback. 🙄
I could look at this engine all day long! A well built Windsor is a thing of beauty.
I love how many ford engines you guys are doing. The 300 inline six was my favourite. Best engine I've ever owned.
Great engine but Ford had many more engines better than the 300ci I-6, 385 series big block, Fe, 351 any small block Ford, Cleveland, Barra, Coyote, Voodoo, every mod motor basically.
@CoyoteFTW I agree. All the 300s I've had or known of are garbage. Probably just neglect from previous owners lol
And how... The 300 six in a row is my favorite as well.
I think Ford should bring the 300 six back. In a truck, this simple engine out perfoms and will out last any 5.0 V-8.
@@marklasalle3592 definitely not out perform lol
That's got to be one of the cleanest builds you have ever done. Love it.
Thanks for watching!
Great content! Love seeing this type of new tech on the small block Ford. 👍🇺🇸👍
Thanks for watching!
"New tech"? "Coil near plug"? Yeah. That's pretty "new!. On any Ford but "Godzilla" maybe. But the other two of the "Big 3" aka "Ford's competition" have been using that "new tech" for a "generation" of their "obsolete" and "old-fashioned" and "low-tech" cam-in-block 2-valve engines - every "family" of them - for "decades" now. And even before the "turn of the century" in GM's case. Aren't all you Fordtards big "LS" authorities and even "experts"? Surely you must know every "LS" is "coil near plug".
I'm a qualified Technician in Mechanical Engineering and I've been a successful race engine developer and builder for 40 years and I would like to commend you on the excellent advice you give in this episode and with such nice workmanship for us to see with this big Ford, please keep these builds coming, thanks lads and stay safe friends
What the hell is a "qualified Technician in Mechanical Engineering"? The "maintenance technician" and "sanitation engineer" that dumps trash cans, sweeps floors and cleans shitters in/for the "Engineering Department" of an "automaker"? Or a parts "vendor"?
And what is a "successful race engine developer and builder"? Someone who "builds" race engines that conform to class rules, pass tech at "teardown" after a "claim" and "successfully" get the "race car" to and from the "finish line" and "pits" under their own power at least 50% of the time plus one "race"?
If you "race" and "engine build" for 40 years and continually "develop" race engines for the entire of that time in any amateur sanctioned competition and classes much less in the "pros" and call that "success" and are still nothing but an/the "engine builder" that could be your problem.
Any "engine builder" that's worth a tin shit will tell you the "car/chassis builder" and "transmission builder" and "crew chief" and "pit crew" have way more to do with real sanctioned "racing" success at the "amateur level" than any "engine builder" and at the "pro level" the engine "build" is all but if not completely "undeveloped" and even "untouched" after a "combo" is "developed".
@@deeremeyer1749 that’s a lot of “”
@@deeremeyer1749 Geez, man…save some quotes for the rest of us.
Tough crowd here ! Lol
we call that, "triggered"
G'day fella's. Love all the Fords you blokes build. I picked 1 fault with this one, you didn't grind the outside of the block. LOL. A number o years ago I worked at a marine dealership here in Australi called The Ski Boat Centre. The Bloke who ran it was an absolute Ford genius. One of the mods we used to do stamp out the opposing side head gasket water jacket hole to help with cooling. We had access to and engine dyno which I never got to go and have anything to do with but that was where the head gasket mod was discovered. We used that on every ski, race and general Ford boat engine and never ever had an overheating problem. I would love to bolt this weapon into my XH Ford Ute. I'm 68 and shit it would make the boys jealous. All the best boys and keep on buildin' em'. Best regards
I have a 1973 Gran Torino with a 351 Cleveland so it's pretty cool to see them doing some old school Ford muscle!!
With a "Chevy" ignition and fuel system?
tip, drill a small hole in one of the threaded gallery plugs, it will increase the lubrication to the timing set.
Yay another power nation vid
I’ll never knock Ford again. This motor means business
Only time I knock a Ford pushrod engine is trying to figure out interchangeability.
That pro dash is more than the whole efi system! Thanks Holley!
Yep crazy $$$
And probably made in China just like everything else yay Holley
Still think Ford v8s sound the best , don’t get me wrong … a hemi sounds great , But there’s just something about the Ford v8.
i love this motor. Once i saw the specs on it, i said to myself "can they get to 550hp" and BAM, they crushed it !
It's a work of art!
Perhaps she will grace the engine bay of my 06 Crown Vic P71.
Even if she doesn't, I hope we at least get to see the engine bay of whatever she goes into.
That would be an interesting swap that I wouldn't expect, but it would be pretty effective.
I was thinking it would look nice in my '00 Grand Marquis. No one expects Grandpa's Couch to move out!
@@johngregory4801 Panther platform for the win!
that would be a beast of a motor in that Police Interceptor and good luck keeping the rear tires glued to the road
It's ready for my 94 Stang.
Watching this show as a kid is what got me into the automotive industry. I always enjoy learning something new.
Windsors don't get the credit they deserve. Great power from this engine. Imagine what that beast would've done with more cubes.
That's an amazing engine. Lots of great parts, sounds fantastic, and looks like a Ford should look. I'm envious.
That's because behind the cameras they are lovers.For real. They just adopted a little Asian girl together.
Those coils look amazing in that SBF.
horse pressures? carbahooters? lol i love this show
My first hot rod build was 72 mercury 351 Winsor. 🤟🤟🤟🤟
Awesome!!! Thanks a million for mixing it up! And doing it right! I can tell the old man knows his way around blue oval power plants because he does what we used to do. It’s those little touches that prove you’re hot rodders and not bow tie snobs.
Mannnnn….. what I’d give to have you reproduce with modern options the 351 Boss engine. The most powerful small block ever to leave the factory doors. We ran a replica in a 70 Torino circle track pure stock clas and destroyed everything else. EVERY RACE they tore our engine down looking at part numbers and conceded we didn’t cheat….. ahhhh the good old days…
BUT!!! Stock 4V heads! That’s the critical part! We filled the lower half of the intake ports with jb weld to “increase air speed” but went slower. I’d LOVE for you guys to put science to the old wives tails. Do the stock ports make more power than ports with the floor filled in? I know they do but let’s prove it with science.
Thank you for making this old worn out Combat Engineers day.
That's a lot of high quality parts And high tech tuning and know how making real Ford power!
when i used to go to my brother in laws garage, he had a friend that rebuilt engines and the friend always said that the 351 Cleveland was by far one of the best engines ever built because it has so much potential
I would be happy to put that beautiful engine in my 2008 grand marquis.
That engine would look nice sitting between the shock towers of my '79 Mustang Cobra!!
Good thing they have Frankie there to temper Pat's playful nature. Great team. Great build on a legendary platform. Congratulations to whomever is fortunate enough to win it.
Can I get paid to make fake comments like this too?
@@Dane33781 who was that meant for?
If only I could get an engine built by Pat.. He's a beast.💯🙌
I miss the days when I could go to the local salvage yard and find a good block for a reasonable price. Though back then, I thought the price was high, inflation has made those days a dream. Love these videos on Fords. Just wish it wasn't so dang expensive to do anything now. Just got done building a 408 with a price tag of $14k, and nothing real special.
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Those matco ratcheting wrenches are so nice. I absolutely love them.
What an engine! the attention to detail and thought that went into this engine was appreciated by me! Such a solid build... the rotating assembly... the heads... tacking the guide plates.... prebuild then build before topping with valve covers adopting a cool coil conversion, custom cut plug wires and paint! The ultimate expression of style meeting performance for a Ford small block fan. Awesome work guys and I'm truly envious of the winner of such a bullet!
Before I even saw the dyno pulls, I thought , holy!! That’s a nasty small block!!!
I love this engine build! I've watched it about 20 times now! 😃😃😃 It's my favorite so far!!👍👍👍
I got the perfect home for this right in my 91 f-250 which right now has the Chris Craft 351 windsor in it straight from factory 300k plus on it . What a sweet build and excellent guys as always, it is always nice to see you two work together on a project .this would be a dream engine that is for sure for either myself or anyone else :)
I could really use this motor for my 93 Foxbody convertible because I am on a retirement budget!!!!! 😬😎
Hopefully, we'll see a small block Windsor engine with Cleveland cylinder head swap. Knew a fella that used a 351 Windsor block and 302 2 barrel Cleveland cylinder heads. Extensive modifications were necessary, but that Ford LTD couldn't be beat!!
The clevor is a 351 the 302 with Cleveland heads is called a boss 302
Wow, this has to be the most high-tech Windsor I have ever seen? Was not sure I liked the over all appearance of the engine due to the coil packs on the valve covers, but it grew on me. Nice HP and TQ numbers from a 410 cubic inch engine.
Finally! 1st Gen. LS content!
That demonstration on ring tension was excellent 👍👏
So Glad to see a Father and Son working so well together.
Pat isnt franks dad
@@bradenkowal8117
That's what she said
Even though you have the new, fandangled contraptions on top of an old stand-by, you still have to use tried and true methods of the past to get it running right. I loved the last pull; you sure could hear the change in the purr when she was breathing better and not all congested. Y'all did an amazing job on this build, and I thoroughly enjoyed all of the attention to the small details to try and 'future-proof' the engine, plus the paint choice matched with the flat black of the intake and polished aluminum heads... very nice 👌
I love watching y'all's videos. So informative and just plain awesome!
This is a really good engine setup. Very impressive Holley setup. Fabulous how nobody needs to touch the engine to completely tune it up. Just a laptop. Makes me feel really old...This is my favourite automotive channel.
This is exactly my dream build!
Let's do a 462 Lincoln MEL motor . Really oldschool and with new technology, probably turn into a torque MONSTER!
Love the content and love this engine!
It would fit nicely in my F100 💪
Love the additional details of this video. Awesome.
I have to say that's some cleanest Dyno lines I've ever seen. That is a nice driver friendly build
Planning a build like this for a 71 mustang but with the hammerhead hemi heads. Love to see more modernized Windsors out there
According to that main cap casting # this is 1983 351w block 🧐
True pros. And they show all of the critical details.
Love this project! This would go great in my 63 Fairlane.
You do build some great engines, I need this one! Bloody awesome.
Love the build. Modern digital ignition & fueling is the way I would build my hotrod mill!
Man, this would be such a killer engine in my 1970 Cougar restomod. My Dad would have been so ecstatic to have this in the car he wanted us to build.
Great vid. Couldn't help but think the co-host sounds just like the Gavin character from Kids in the Hall during the segment where he ports the oil chambers, lol.
I would love to throw this in my Mustang. I've been shopping around for 351W parts to swap something like this would be my end goal! Great work guys.
this would look awesome in my 67 Bronco!
Yeah my carbed 408 Windsor with old school tech but expensive main components is making 600 hp and 550 tq. Simple easy and stupid fast.
This is a hell of an undertaking. My father got an 88 mustang lx that were looking to build up this would probably be overkill 😆
perfect!
there can never be too much ‘overkill’ for a motor
You guys work good together. Great job
thats the best LS ive ever seen😀
Nice build, that 410 Ci would look good in my 70 cougar.
personally, i’d drop it in a 1978 Ford Thunderbird
Very, very cool. Great video, guys!
I'm wondering if the heads are slightly too big for that engine size and compression ratio? I think with a 210 or 200 runner head, the same numbers could be achieved.
I'm in the process of doing a build like this with the same heads, and after watching this, I'm going to go with at least a 427, and I believe 600 plus hp with be achieved at the same compression with a very similar camshaft profile. Great show, guys, and keep the good work up. 👏
Met Pat and Frankie at Columbia Cars and Coffee. Awesome guys!
Sweet build
I have a 1997 F250HD XL Reg cab 2wd 351w ZF-5 S47 and I DESPERATELY NEED THIS ENGINE I have 6 entries in for it...if I win I am going to turn the truck in to a long travel twin I beam pre-runner on 35-37" tires and I might cut out the back of the cab and the front bed wall out, weld the bed and cab together, reinforce and create my own LWB 3/4t Bronco with a removable roof (modified bed topper) and removable back seats. With this kind of power it won't be hard to Yeet 5000lbs off some dunes while creating some serious tire speed so that I can blast through almost anything with only 2wd, I will have a receiver mount winch to get it unstuck on either end . That ZF-5 S47 is going to be putting in some work but, I think it'll be fine since it's only been dealing with 215hp 315ft/lbs it's whole life thus far, it still shifts amazing after 228,xxx miles and they live behind some stout 7.3 PSDs and even Cummins swaps. I'm sure the Stirling 10.25 rear won't be fazed either. With all those top shelf parts and EFI that 410w might have to see some bigger injectors, more fuel pump, at least a 3bar MAF sensor and a turbo or two. I live in Tennessee near Columbia if you want to see what I end up doing with the engine.
This is exactly my dream engine to go inside my 1980 f100, Would be a great improvement over the 300 in there now
Careful. The comment section will crucify you for insinuating the 300 isn't the greatest engine ever.
@@bmstylee Haha you're right, it's a great motor but with such a lack of aftermarket support it's just difficult to make big power without big money
Your dream engine to go inside your F100 is an LS9 but you don't know it yet.
@@basshead. as much as I fanboy for the SBC in general (it is probably the most proven small block family) i would do a built 460. Bomb proof internals and forced induction. But that's just me.
@@FreemanConcepts it's just not practical. It's big and heavy and as you said without spending several packets of cash it won't build power. Even the one HP built is busted. Watch the dyno pull in the dualy they put in. After a few hard pulls it was blowing white smoke. And that was with performance internals. It was having issues at 400 whp. Meanwhile most small blocks make 400 relatively easily.
What an AWESOME BIULD! I just entered, and hope I am able to drop this beast in my 68 Fastback Mustang...I think it would be cool to actually drive the car to you all, and have an episode on putting the engine in. I could help!
That's 410 cubic inches I want in my 63.5 Galaxie! Oh baby! Nice build!
I'm building basically the same engine but solid roller. My buddy laughed when I said 550-600hp on pump 93
Quality content! I just can’t get over the amount of pens in one’s pocket….😂
i love the different torque curves between Dodge, Ford and Chevy engines.
A function of all components? Or just bore/stroke?
I was concerned after the first two dyno runs, but you guys hit it a grand slam.
More like this- That was a great episode
Holy!!!
Those rods!!!
Wow!!!
That was crazy on the Dyno lil changes can do crazy things
That's an awesome engine that would be perfect for My dream project ! Great content Love the attention to details keep up the Great work and Best Wishes . Thank You .
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i needs this.. I'm literally building roughly the same engine setup currently for my 68 mustang..
These Video's are therapy for me
beautiful job looks real good good ;power if i had to do efi i would do it that way but still like carbs awesome job thanks
I wish I saw this when it came out! This engine would have worked perfectly in my 1992 Mustang. I bought the car brand new in 1992. I just bought the Holley Terminator X Max and a Vortech V3 Si so that'll have to do on my HCI 302 for now!
if you need/want someone to tune that setup for you send me a message 👍🏼
Man I am loving this show
had a friend in high school that had a 351 cleveland in a 69 Torino. when he took the engine to the local Speed Shop they asked him where the pistons for that motor were. he said they already had them. The part numbers were for 440 Chrysler. He told them just to put it back together it would be fine.
I love this episode, but wish you would do one in the same manner with a 351 Cleveland engine. Keep up the good work.
Lube em up, stick em in!
Don't forget to check the thrust bearing?m.😉
Nice job guys
That's the first time I've seen Pat use his tape measure from his vast arsenal of pocket and belt tool kit.
I'm dreaming of an FE build! Just like this!...💯💥
Id almost kill to have this in my 82 GT that currently has a broken 302... Made 295hp at the wheels.
Entered.. would be an awesome power plant for my dads 1966 fastback he’s finally started to work on after sitting in his garage for nearly 30 years! Lol
I love seeing more Ford Motors done
These guys are awesome
Great engine, love the Ford builds with new tech. Now, how about a Cleveland build? I just happen to have one...
I do too.its rumbling power always makes me want to go high tech tuning to get some more
Great episode! Hate I missed the giveaway opportunity. That motor would be sweet in a sn95 Cobra.
I think this is my favorite build!
Would love to have this engine in between the frame rails of my 66 Mustang!