We are trying to determine the system we need for our new rig. You could not have made this clearer. You are excellent at teaching and demonstrating. Thanks so much
Thank you! Just ordered the Full Time Package. I am going to add a NetGear 8 Port Network Switch, I want to hardwire the 2 TV's and laptops to eliminate the WIFI connections to strengthen that link. I really appreciate the bundles MMH has assembled which removes a lot of expensive experimentation. I also subscribed to the Mobile Internet Resource Center....excellent, excellent information. Thank again.
Thanks Andy. Appreciate the information and installation. Took me 30 minutes end to end and 20 minutes of that was staring at the marked spot waiting to drill the first hole in our new rig.
Good video. I think we are going to start looking for a solution for our teardrop later this year. It sounds like this works well, but I think I'm going to need something with a little smaller form factor.
You mention Dicor as a sealant however, Dicor makes lots of different products. I'd like to know specifically what product you use and where I can get it.
Dicor self leveling roof sealant is available here in various colors. Thanks for the question! mobilemusthave.com/products/dicor-self-leveling-sealant-in-various-colors?_pos=1&_psq=dicor&_ss=e&_v=1.0
Thank you for this walk through - wish it gave me a bit more confidence that I could drop this through my Grand Design roof (1/32" of roof membrane, 1/2" inch of OSB, about a 4-5 in layer of air with some insulation, and then a 1/8" to 3/16" piece of paneling) sounds like more than shown Just have to decide between Poynting and Parsec antenna
with a clean install surface, 3M outdoor adhesive (included) and dicor self leveling roof sealant you have nothing to worry about. Remember your air conditioner covers a hole nearly 2 feet x 2 feet that keeps the water out with only a small foam gasket. This installation method works very well for our customers and keeps the water out.
@@theroadoffaith7855 we have installation partners in a few areas but honestly any rv installer who has installed a tv or sat dish can handle and if your installer has questions we are here to help.
Just read Mobile Internet Resource Center where a commenter said "I have the 5 in 1 and a Pepwave BRI MK2 and will be testing it with and without a ground plane. I have an early release instruction sheet that states it must use a 400mm x 400mm ground plane." Mobile Internet Resource Center replied saying "The V2 is confirmed to not need a ground plane despite the manual that shipped." Hoping this is true with the MIMO-3-V2 we ordered from you?
There are various roof mounting options but regardless you'll need to get the cables indoor so you are going to be drilling a hole somewhere. Remember your air condition sits on top of a hole that is more than 12 inches by 12 inches in size protected by a simple foam gasket so don't be too discouraged. Often we find customers trying to create creative solutions and ending up with problems instead of trusting the antenna manufacturers and testing data. Having 4+ inches of 3m adhesive and Dicor self leveling sealant between your roof entry point and the elements is a much safer option than most alternatives. Remember a solar panel installed from the factory for example is simply a screw drilled right into the roof with sealant appleid on top, thats it, this is much less prone to issues. Some customers choose to install a roof box and we have a video coming on that soon as well. This is popular for those with solar installations or those who switch out antennas and gear frequently as they have a serviceable installation that can easily charge out cables. We recommend checking out the recent video from the RV Geeks installing our equipment for more information on that type of installation. Here is a link! ua-cam.com/video/ciz5CEd0FQs/v-deo.html
You mentioned someone running the cables with existing solar cables. Would this cause interference in the coaxial cables? I have a solar install and i am considering this options. Thanks for the great video.
I installed the same antenna on my fifth wheel (I even bought it from Andy), I was surprised when I read the directions and they call for a 16” ground plane. I fabricated one out of galvanized steel with rolled edges to keep it from cutting the roof.
@@MobileMustHave I think anyone spending the money for the Max Transit Duo and a Poynting antenna is serious about maximum performance internet and therefore would want a ground plane. Just my opinion but minimizing the ground plane is a disservice to your audience.
@@ScottenJonesVideo Did you just install the ground plate ontop of the roof and the Poynting ontop of that plate? Any suggestions on best way to do this? Thanks in advance, I will be installing mine this week and also didn't know about the grounding plate
@@Tawnieandwayne yes, I bought some galvanized sheet metal at Home Depot, rolled the edges so they wouldn’t cut the roof and set it in Dicor. Later on the edge were coming up a little so I added Eternabond tape. My install with pictures is in a write up on my modifications here: www.scottenjones.com/JaycoEagle355MBQSUpgrades.pdf
Took my Poynting MIMO to my Motorhome dealer as I didn’t want to risk my warranty fitting it myself as the Motorhome is only 3 month old. The dealer refused to fit it because of the flimsy plastic spigot and the poor sealing. The technician also stated that he didn’t feel it was a good idea drilling 6 holes in the roof. He also told me what I suspected that it would only be comparable with a campervan with a thin steel roof such as a VW Transporter and not a Motorhome with a 70mm cavity. Be warned.
This is the same antenna that is OEM to airstream products so I suspect the dealer either didnt understand it or simply didnt want to do it. There are not 6 screws for anything other than to attach the optional magnet kit so I think they may have not understood how this works. We have thousands of these antennas out in the field with no issues reported. Many people get confused with the down mount spigot on this and other antennas (like parsec, Mobilemark, Peplink that all use the exact same technology). This spigot is designed to only be used on metal roof applications where the roof surface is less than 1 inch thick and should not be used with an RV roof that is 4 inches thick and has many layers. When mounting to an RV, the adhesive mount combined with dicor around the end is how this antenna is mounted. This keeps the installation to a single hole and the water is kept out with high strength 3m adhesive that is then protected with Dicor. This allows the roof to expand and contract with temperature changes which would not happen if it was a simple locking nut installation which is not advised except for on metal roof installations. Some customers choose alternative mounting methods such as running the wires out the back and to a junction box which also works. If you'd like the number of an installer we trust let us know. National Indoor RV is a great option and they install quite a few but we have other installers all over that know how this product works.
Partially filling the hole with gap filler and then sealing around the hole with silicone would have been very wise also before sticking down the antenna. You just can't weather proof this enough when it's exposed to the Summer and Winter 24/7 every day of the year.....
Silicone is not generally recommended for tpo vinyl or fiberglass roofs as it lacks self healing and flex capabilities. It works great in metal Roof applications and is used by oems like airstream. A spray foam gap filler could maybe be used but could also expand too much affecting the seal if not done properly. The installation method here with dicor is still our top choice and this unit is going strong years later on Andy’s rv. Thanks for the comment and suggestions!
Excellent video! I have the Poynting antenna and Pepwave BR1 ready to go. I also read that you can install it and use it as a wifi antenna until you get the SIM card. Would I just leave the cell cables off until I get the SIM?
You can hook up all cables, just configure the Wifi as wan functionality if you want to use public wifi without a sim. Help article here: support.mobilemusthave.com/support/solutions/articles/67000524620-connection-to-an-external-wifi-source-with-wifi-as-wan Make sure to check out our 300gb data plan option as well on att network here. www.mobilemusthave.com/MobileMustHave-Wireless--300GB-Cellular-Data-Plan_p_1416.html
Ya, it’s not long enough to stick thro and attach. Sorry for not showing that or highlighting it. The adhesive is more then enough with the low weight of the antenna
I have a 5th wheel and want to cover my truck too. Understanding the 20" rule ... would I be better to mount forward of the front AC unit or mid trailer? Note: My office is in the forward bedroom.
Hey Cam, checkout our quick start guide and under Table of Contents look for Antenna Wiring Diagrams using this link below. if you get stuck reach out to us via chat or info@mobilemusthave.com and we will get you sorted! support.mobilemusthave.com/support/solutions/articles/67000391582-pepwave-max-series-max-series-bundle-get-started-guide-#Antenna-Wiring-Digrams
Great overview! I am about to purchase a Raptor 413 that has a WINEGARD AIR 360+ OMNI-DIRECTIONAL ROOFTOP ANTENNA already installed. I have to purchase the WINEGARD GATEWAY 4G LTE WIFI ROUTER that works with this antenna. Thoughts?
Hi Jeric, Those work fine overall. From what we have seen they dont have full network band support so you might not pick up signal in all areas. Keep in mind they are based on a cat 4 modem too which is the slowest modems. There are other options with faster internal modems that may help the internet feel faster if you wanted to go down a different route.
I've never had any success with my Poynting 5 in one antenna. I am literally one mile from the tower I'm connected to, and this antenna makes no notable improvement in signal. I actually took the blade antennas from my Pepwave and made a makeshift antenna on a pole about 10 feet in the air and improved my signal metrics quite a bit. My poynting antenna is on top of my 5th wheel, about 14 feet high and it does nothing for my signal. Very disappointed in the results of my efforts and expense.
being in an extremely good cellular reception area means that adding an antenna with high gain wont do much. If your signal is already at 100% for example, you cant go over 100% by adding an antenna. Often customers confuse good signal with "fast speed" which are largely unrelated. You can have an excellent connection to a cell tower but if that tower is saturated or otherwise not able to provide more bandwidth (data plan caps, tower saturation, environmental factors etc) then you wont see speed improvements. You may want to check out what band your connected to on that tower and consider changing to a different cellular band that has more capacity. We have a video on band selection here: ua-cam.com/video/OLJYxFxMJaM/v-deo.html
Yes! The wifi is quite strong and putting it higher up gives you better coverage over your entire RV compared to the wifi coming from a lower spot behind something else that could cause interference. That said, if you do find the signal weak, you can add an internal access point like the Pepwave AP Mini, or just not connect the wifi cables unless you need it for external wifi reception with wifi as wan.
Did you find with your Pepwave install, that your signal is strong enough to use VOIP? I travel and work at the same time and are constantly on the phone. I would like to use this technology to help with my phone signal in weak areas. Please advise.
Absolutely! I am on VIOP calls for about 4 hours a day with Zoom and MS Teams. As long as you have decent service and the towers aren't over run with traffic (rare but happens in RV dense areas), you should have no problems
Andy I just bought the Parsec 7 in 1 from you and am ready to install. I have a fifth-wheel toy hauler. My question is about the locking nut. I assume that you would need to cut out the underside to get the locking nut on (access)? Is this required or is the adhesive and dicor enough?
Hey Don, the locking nut is not required for most rv installations. The locking nut is for metal roof installations for non insulated roofs (when dicor is not used, for example on a fire truck or police car). The adhesive mount along with dicor and gravity are more than enough and we have had no issues with antennas going back to 2013 without any issue with this method. Make sure to clean the roof with a roof cleaner or solvent approved for you roof before sticking down the antenna and make sure the roof is dry and above 45-50 degrees f and you should be good. Thanks for the great question!
@@theroadoffaith7855 A wiring diagram for the 12v power system for that bundle is available here: support.mobilemusthave.com/support/solutions/articles/67000682693-pepwave-transit-series-dc-power-wiring-diagrams
it does not, for mobilemark since it requires a ground plane anyway secure the antenna to the ground plane which is an option at checkout then simply screw the ground plane down at 12 3 6 9 o'clock and dicor the edge of the ground plane and the screw holes. The parsec husky is a good option if you dont wish to use a ground plane available here: www.mobilemusthave.com/Parsec-Husky-Pro-7--7-in-1-5G-Antenna-with-4x4-Cellular-2x2-WIF-GPS-Magnet-Mount-7-Leads_p_1408.html
That Poynting antenna has a similar shape and dimensions as the LCI OneControl Hotspot antenna plate that was prepped on our new rig. Do you have the exact dimensions? I'd be nice if we could use the access point from the roof to the inside of the coach that the manufacturer already provided.
Hi Jaron, the issue we have seen with the OneControl is its limited band support. This means that in an area of ATT reception you might not pick up the band the tower is on creating no signal for your internet. The bundle and Poynting antenna pick up all the carrier LTE bands so this is not ever an issue. I am not sure about the connections on the OneControl either, the pepwave has SMA connections so keep that in mind too.
@@MobileMustHave yeah, the main reason I don't want the LCI OneControl is it being limited to AT&T. But, I want to find a system that can use the prep plate and the hole they already cut into the roof instead of drilling another one, lol
I really do not want to drill a hole in my ceiling but have a roof vent in the same area as the router. I assume there are no issues if I just stick it outside the roof vent when I need to use it and not have it permanently installed? It would be a challenge on rainy days I suppose but has anyone utilized the Poynting this way?
Yes, a lot of people will use refrigerator vents, or other ways to drop the cable. I know the hole part sounds scary, but it is the best way to create a water tight seal for the antenna if you have not current cable drop too. It requires no more work then your other roof mounted objects now. I have had zero issues with this install since the install and it sat under snow for months! You cant even see it on the roof, and we dont ever think about it. Its there, its always working. :)
You mention NOT installing this in close proximity to other antennas. Would that advice apply to passive (i.e. television) antennas? Considering whether installing this atop my extending (via handcrank) Winegard Sensar antenna's plastic body would be a good or bad idea. Doing so would let me raise the antenna 2 feet higher when parked (thereby also clearing a rooftop AC unit) but obviously would also be in very close proximity to another antenna - and would mean foregoing a ground plate as well.
Hey! I dont think you would have an issues with the internet antenna, but it will probably cause interference with tv signal. (if you still use that antenna). The poynting has the integrated grounding plate, so you should be ok there. However, you do only have 6 feet of cable. You would get better signal not raising it, if that requires an extension. Adding extension kills your signal gain.
@@MobileMustHave thanks for the reply... I kind of came to the conclusion this was a poor idea after giving it more thought. The cable isn't so much an issue (was thinking about putting the pepwave adjacent to the roof cable access) but decided that putting the (comparatively) heavy MIMO-3 on the lightweight Sensar assembly might be ill advised and hokey after all. Not to mention who knows what the extra vibration experienced by sitting on top of a shaky antenna going down the highway would do to the MIMO-3 over time. Finally, the roof of my RV is aluminum, so dropping it directly on the roof and keeping it there maintains the added ground plane advantages.
If installing the antennae with ground plate, should a hole be bored into the plate to align with the roof hole? Or should the antennae be installed without hole in the ground plate?
yes it will, but you will need adapters for the SMA connectors to work with the hotspot. www.mobilemusthave.com/TS-9-to-SMA-Antenna-Cable-Adapter-2x-for-MiFi-Hotspot-External-Antenna-Use_p_98.html
We are trying to determine the system we need for our new rig. You could not have made this clearer. You are excellent at teaching and demonstrating. Thanks so much
Thank you! 🙏🏻
Thank you! Just ordered the Full Time Package. I am going to add a NetGear 8 Port Network Switch, I want to hardwire the 2 TV's and laptops to eliminate the WIFI connections to strengthen that link. I really appreciate the bundles MMH has assembled which removes a lot of expensive experimentation. I also subscribed to the Mobile Internet Resource Center....excellent, excellent information. Thank again.
Thanks Andy. Appreciate the information and installation. Took me 30 minutes end to end and 20 minutes of that was staring at the marked spot waiting to drill the first hole in our new rig.
ahahaha. Yep. I cut that time out of the video but know the feeling all too well!
Cover the cable end with a sandwich bag prior to taping it to the fish wire, to protect the identification tags.
That would work too!
Good video. I think we are going to start looking for a solution for our teardrop later this year. It sounds like this works well, but I think I'm going to need something with a little smaller form factor.
We have a few options. Email us at info@mobilemusthave.com and we can suggest a few options.
Awesome job, Andy!
You mention Dicor as a sealant however, Dicor makes lots of different products. I'd like to know specifically what product you use and where I can get it.
Dicor self leveling roof sealant is available here in various colors. Thanks for the question! mobilemusthave.com/products/dicor-self-leveling-sealant-in-various-colors?_pos=1&_psq=dicor&_ss=e&_v=1.0
Saw you Technomedia . Nice install. Sooner or later, we all have to answer this questions. We have some videos you would like check us out
Thank you for this walk through - wish it gave me a bit more confidence that I could drop this through my Grand Design roof (1/32" of roof membrane, 1/2" inch of OSB, about a 4-5 in layer of air with some insulation, and then a 1/8" to 3/16" piece of paneling) sounds like more than shown
Just have to decide between Poynting and Parsec antenna
with a clean install surface, 3M outdoor adhesive (included) and dicor self leveling roof sealant you have nothing to worry about. Remember your air conditioner covers a hole nearly 2 feet x 2 feet that keeps the water out with only a small foam gasket. This installation method works very well for our customers and keeps the water out.
@@MobileMustHave are there people who install for mobile must have?
@@theroadoffaith7855 we have installation partners in a few areas but honestly any rv installer who has installed a tv or sat dish can handle and if your installer has questions we are here to help.
Just read Mobile Internet Resource Center where a commenter said "I have the 5 in 1 and a Pepwave BRI MK2 and will be testing it with and without a ground plane. I have an early release instruction sheet that states it must use a 400mm x 400mm ground plane." Mobile Internet Resource Center replied saying "The V2 is confirmed to not need a ground plane despite the manual that shipped." Hoping this is true with the MIMO-3-V2 we ordered from you?
Responded to your other comment on the first video. A grounding plane is not required.
As always, AWESOME job!!!
Thanks for the tip!
Do these have to be roof mounted? Basically is there another way then drilling in the camper…"
There are various roof mounting options but regardless you'll need to get the cables indoor so you are going to be drilling a hole somewhere. Remember your air condition sits on top of a hole that is more than 12 inches by 12 inches in size protected by a simple foam gasket so don't be too discouraged. Often we find customers trying to create creative solutions and ending up with problems instead of trusting the antenna manufacturers and testing data. Having 4+ inches of 3m adhesive and Dicor self leveling sealant between your roof entry point and the elements is a much safer option than most alternatives. Remember a solar panel installed from the factory for example is simply a screw drilled right into the roof with sealant appleid on top, thats it, this is much less prone to issues. Some customers choose to install a roof box and we have a video coming on that soon as well. This is popular for those with solar installations or those who switch out antennas and gear frequently as they have a serviceable installation that can easily charge out cables. We recommend checking out the recent video from the RV Geeks installing our equipment for more information on that type of installation. Here is a link! ua-cam.com/video/ciz5CEd0FQs/v-deo.html
Thanks for the tips, keep up the videos!
Thanks! Glad they are helpful!
You mentioned someone running the cables with existing solar cables. Would this cause interference in the coaxial cables? I have a solar install and i am considering this options. Thanks for the great video.
No, the cables would be ok. But the antenna itself you would want to keep 18 inches away from any ac or other antennas.
thank you for this awesome video.
I installed the same antenna on my fifth wheel (I even bought it from Andy), I was surprised when I read the directions and they call for a 16” ground plane. I fabricated one out of galvanized steel with rolled edges to keep it from cutting the roof.
Yes, the instructions do call for one, and it will improve the gain, but we have confirmed with Poynting that is is not required. :)
@@MobileMustHave I think anyone spending the money for the Max Transit Duo and a Poynting antenna is serious about maximum performance internet and therefore would want a ground plane. Just my opinion but minimizing the ground plane is a disservice to your audience.
@@ScottenJonesVideo Did you just install the ground plate ontop of the roof and the Poynting ontop of that plate? Any suggestions on best way to do this? Thanks in advance, I will be installing mine this week and also didn't know about the grounding plate
@@Tawnieandwayne yes, I bought some galvanized sheet metal at Home Depot, rolled the edges so they wouldn’t cut the roof and set it in Dicor. Later on the edge were coming up a little so I added Eternabond tape. My install with pictures is in a write up on my modifications here: www.scottenjones.com/JaycoEagle355MBQSUpgrades.pdf
Took my Poynting MIMO to my Motorhome dealer as I didn’t want to risk my warranty fitting it myself as the Motorhome is only 3 month old.
The dealer refused to fit it because of the flimsy plastic spigot and the poor sealing. The technician also stated that he didn’t feel it was a good idea drilling 6 holes in the roof. He also told me what I suspected that it would only be comparable with a campervan with a thin steel roof such as a VW Transporter and not a Motorhome with a 70mm cavity. Be warned.
This is the same antenna that is OEM to airstream products so I suspect the dealer either didnt understand it or simply didnt want to do it. There are not 6 screws for anything other than to attach the optional magnet kit so I think they may have not understood how this works. We have thousands of these antennas out in the field with no issues reported. Many people get confused with the down mount spigot on this and other antennas (like parsec, Mobilemark, Peplink that all use the exact same technology). This spigot is designed to only be used on metal roof applications where the roof surface is less than 1 inch thick and should not be used with an RV roof that is 4 inches thick and has many layers. When mounting to an RV, the adhesive mount combined with dicor around the end is how this antenna is mounted. This keeps the installation to a single hole and the water is kept out with high strength 3m adhesive that is then protected with Dicor. This allows the roof to expand and contract with temperature changes which would not happen if it was a simple locking nut installation which is not advised except for on metal roof installations. Some customers choose alternative mounting methods such as running the wires out the back and to a junction box which also works. If you'd like the number of an installer we trust let us know. National Indoor RV is a great option and they install quite a few but we have other installers all over that know how this product works.
Airstreams are aluminum so it won’t stick with the magnet
You got the idea. 😏
Partially filling the hole with gap filler and then sealing around the hole with silicone would have been very wise also before sticking down the antenna. You just can't weather proof this enough when it's exposed to the Summer and Winter 24/7 every day of the year.....
Silicone is not generally recommended for tpo vinyl or fiberglass roofs as it lacks self healing and flex capabilities. It works great in metal Roof applications and is used by oems like airstream. A spray foam gap filler could maybe be used but could also expand too much affecting the seal if not done properly. The installation method here with dicor is still our top choice and this unit is going strong years later on Andy’s rv. Thanks for the comment and suggestions!
Excellent video! I have the Poynting antenna and Pepwave BR1 ready to go. I also read that you can install it and use it as a wifi antenna until you get the SIM card. Would I just leave the cell cables off until I get the SIM?
You can hook up all cables, just configure the Wifi as wan functionality if you want to use public wifi without a sim. Help article here: support.mobilemusthave.com/support/solutions/articles/67000524620-connection-to-an-external-wifi-source-with-wifi-as-wan Make sure to check out our 300gb data plan option as well on att network here. www.mobilemusthave.com/MobileMustHave-Wireless--300GB-Cellular-Data-Plan_p_1416.html
Thanks and good job!
Good video. Is there a reason you did not use the spigot and plastic nut to secure the antenna?
Ya, it’s not long enough to stick thro and attach. Sorry for not showing that or highlighting it. The adhesive is more then enough with the low weight of the antenna
I have a 5th wheel and want to cover my truck too. Understanding the 20" rule ... would I be better to mount forward of the front AC unit or mid trailer? Note: My office is in the forward bedroom.
We are able to pick up the WiFi in the truck with this current set up. Kids are able to stream when the service is strong enough :)
You say follow the labels on the wires, but mine came with no labels
Hey Cam, checkout our quick start guide and under Table of Contents look for Antenna Wiring Diagrams using this link below. if you get stuck reach out to us via chat or info@mobilemusthave.com and we will get you sorted! support.mobilemusthave.com/support/solutions/articles/67000391582-pepwave-max-series-max-series-bundle-get-started-guide-#Antenna-Wiring-Digrams
Great overview! I am about to purchase a Raptor 413 that has a WINEGARD AIR 360+ OMNI-DIRECTIONAL ROOFTOP ANTENNA already installed. I have to purchase the WINEGARD GATEWAY 4G LTE WIFI ROUTER that works with this antenna. Thoughts?
Hi Jeric, Those work fine overall. From what we have seen they dont have full network band support so you might not pick up signal in all areas. Keep in mind they are based on a cat 4 modem too which is the slowest modems. There are other options with faster internal modems that may help the internet feel faster if you wanted to go down a different route.
Great video, when you stuck it to the roof , did you fix it from inside as well or just the dsa and the fillet
No, ceiling was to think so it is just held on with the adhesive.
I've never had any success with my Poynting 5 in one antenna. I am literally one mile from the tower I'm connected to, and this antenna makes no notable improvement in signal. I actually took the blade antennas from my Pepwave and made a makeshift antenna on a pole about 10 feet in the air and improved my signal metrics quite a bit.
My poynting antenna is on top of my 5th wheel, about 14 feet high and it does nothing for my signal. Very disappointed in the results of my efforts and expense.
being in an extremely good cellular reception area means that adding an antenna with high gain wont do much. If your signal is already at 100% for example, you cant go over 100% by adding an antenna. Often customers confuse good signal with "fast speed" which are largely unrelated. You can have an excellent connection to a cell tower but if that tower is saturated or otherwise not able to provide more bandwidth (data plan caps, tower saturation, environmental factors etc) then you wont see speed improvements. You may want to check out what band your connected to on that tower and consider changing to a different cellular band that has more capacity. We have a video on band selection here: ua-cam.com/video/OLJYxFxMJaM/v-deo.html
If the ground plate improves the signal, why did you not use it?
It can complicate the install but we are working on filming on with that option now
Hi Andy, nice video.
When WiFi antenne on the outside of the rv, do you still have WiFi signal inside the rv?
Yes! The wifi is quite strong and putting it higher up gives you better coverage over your entire RV compared to the wifi coming from a lower spot behind something else that could cause interference. That said, if you do find the signal weak, you can add an internal access point like the Pepwave AP Mini, or just not connect the wifi cables unless you need it for external wifi reception with wifi as wan.
My roof is black, not an RV. Am I able to paint this antenna? Trying not to have it stick out like a sore thumb.
Yes you can. We have similar antenna options that do come in black as well. Message us and we can send you links to those options.
Great Video!!
Would it be acceptable to attach a galvanized plate to the roof using Dicor sealant and then attach the antenna to it using the magnetic mounts?
Yes it would. Although the sticky pad on the antenna would act as another water seal layer and no real gain from the magnets.
Did you find with your Pepwave install, that your signal is strong enough to use VOIP? I travel and work at the same time and are constantly on the phone. I would like to use this technology to help with my phone signal in weak areas. Please advise.
Absolutely! I am on VIOP calls for about 4 hours a day with Zoom and MS Teams. As long as you have decent service and the towers aren't over run with traffic (rare but happens in RV dense areas), you should have no problems
Andy I just bought the Parsec 7 in 1 from you and am ready to install. I have a fifth-wheel toy hauler. My question is about the locking nut. I assume that you would need to cut out the underside to get the locking nut on (access)? Is this required or is the adhesive and dicor enough?
Hey Don, the locking nut is not required for most rv installations. The locking nut is for metal roof installations for non insulated roofs (when dicor is not used, for example on a fire truck or police car). The adhesive mount along with dicor and gravity are more than enough and we have had no issues with antennas going back to 2013 without any issue with this method. Make sure to clean the roof with a roof cleaner or solvent approved for you roof before sticking down the antenna and make sure the roof is dry and above 45-50 degrees f and you should be good. Thanks for the great question!
@@MobileMustHave thank you
Great video - really helped me install my new parsec antenna. How do you connect the router to dc power?
We show this in the router set up videos. It depends on which unit you have as some of the DC power labels can change based on your mode.
@@MobileMustHave I have the Ultimate Road Warrior with Dual LTE-A Pro CAT-12 Mobile Router with Parsec 7-in-1 5G Compatible Antenna
@@theroadoffaith7855 A wiring diagram for the 12v power system for that bundle is available here: support.mobilemusthave.com/support/solutions/articles/67000682693-pepwave-transit-series-dc-power-wiring-diagrams
Does the antenna need to be on a flat surface? The entirety of my roof is curved at varying degrees
These should still work. These are installed on airstreams a lot that have that curved roof. Actually, this is the same antenna they install OEM.
The equivalent Mobile Mark antenna does not have adhesive on the bottom.
it does not, for mobilemark since it requires a ground plane anyway secure the antenna to the ground plane which is an option at checkout then simply screw the ground plane down at 12 3 6 9 o'clock and dicor the edge of the ground plane and the screw holes. The parsec husky is a good option if you dont wish to use a ground plane available here: www.mobilemusthave.com/Parsec-Husky-Pro-7--7-in-1-5G-Antenna-with-4x4-Cellular-2x2-WIF-GPS-Magnet-Mount-7-Leads_p_1408.html
That Poynting antenna has a similar shape and dimensions as the LCI OneControl Hotspot antenna plate that was prepped on our new rig. Do you have the exact dimensions? I'd be nice if we could use the access point from the roof to the inside of the coach that the manufacturer already provided.
Hi Jaron, the issue we have seen with the OneControl is its limited band support. This means that in an area of ATT reception you might not pick up the band the tower is on creating no signal for your internet. The bundle and Poynting antenna pick up all the carrier LTE bands so this is not ever an issue.
I am not sure about the connections on the OneControl either, the pepwave has SMA connections so keep that in mind too.
@@MobileMustHave yeah, the main reason I don't want the LCI OneControl is it being limited to AT&T. But, I want to find a system that can use the prep plate and the hole they already cut into the roof instead of drilling another one, lol
Andy, great video. Are these back in stock online?
Not yet 😫 we are waiting for an update from Poynting... hoping by end of month.
I really do not want to drill a hole in my ceiling but have a roof vent in the same area as the router. I assume there are no issues if I just stick it outside the roof vent when I need to use it and not have it permanently installed? It would be a challenge on rainy days I suppose but has anyone utilized the Poynting this way?
Yes, a lot of people will use refrigerator vents, or other ways to drop the cable. I know the hole part sounds scary, but it is the best way to create a water tight seal for the antenna if you have not current cable drop too. It requires no more work then your other roof mounted objects now. I have had zero issues with this install since the install and it sat under snow for months! You cant even see it on the roof, and we dont ever think about it. Its there, its always working. :)
You mention NOT installing this in close proximity to other antennas. Would that advice apply to passive (i.e. television) antennas? Considering whether installing this atop my extending (via handcrank) Winegard Sensar antenna's plastic body would be a good or bad idea. Doing so would let me raise the antenna 2 feet higher when parked (thereby also clearing a rooftop AC unit) but obviously would also be in very close proximity to another antenna - and would mean foregoing a ground plate as well.
Hey! I dont think you would have an issues with the internet antenna, but it will probably cause interference with tv signal. (if you still use that antenna). The poynting has the integrated grounding plate, so you should be ok there. However, you do only have 6 feet of cable. You would get better signal not raising it, if that requires an extension. Adding extension kills your signal gain.
@@MobileMustHave thanks for the reply... I kind of came to the conclusion this was a poor idea after giving it more thought. The cable isn't so much an issue (was thinking about putting the pepwave adjacent to the roof cable access) but decided that putting the (comparatively) heavy MIMO-3 on the lightweight Sensar assembly might be ill advised and hokey after all. Not to mention who knows what the extra vibration experienced by sitting on top of a shaky antenna going down the highway would do to the MIMO-3 over time. Finally, the roof of my RV is aluminum, so dropping it directly on the roof and keeping it there maintains the added ground plane advantages.
Thank you! How would you install the grounding plate?
We do not have a video on this yes, but you can use VHB tape or even just dicor to keep it in place.
Does the Poynting already have a ground plate as part of it?
Yes. There is one built in!
If installing the antennae with ground plate, should a hole be bored into the plate to align with the roof hole? Or should the antennae be installed without hole in the ground plate?
If you go grounding plane, and you are drilling a hole, just stack everything and run dicor around all those edges.
@@MobileMustHave thanks for your reply! Should adhesive be applied to the grounding plate to stick to the roof or is dicor enough to hold it?
@@iancooper368 dicor is probably enough. That stuff is very sticky
Would this antenna work with a Mofi 4500 router?
yes it will, but you will need adapters for the SMA connectors to work with the hotspot.
www.mobilemusthave.com/TS-9-to-SMA-Antenna-Cable-Adapter-2x-for-MiFi-Hotspot-External-Antenna-Use_p_98.html
Airstreams are aluminum... magnets won't work.
Yep! Noticed that slip in post! 🙈