What is the difference between Poynting MIMO-3-12, 3-15 and 3-17 antennas?
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- We have been getting a lot of questions about what are the differences between the new Poynting MIMO-3 series antennas. We give a short overview of the features of these 4G aerials to make it easier for you to choose which one you need for your circumstances. All of these antennas are 4G/5G antennas, suitable for use in improving your cellular signal.
The short summary is, that higher numbers do not always mean "better" and more features also don't always mean "better". The best of these 4G MIMO antennas ( MIMO-3-12, MIMO-3-15 and MIMO-3-17 ) is the one that fits your particular needs. In this video we explain the difference between the features and give a quick overview of when it is worth using a more high-end 4G LTE MIMO antenna.
The MIMO-3-12
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The MIMO-3-V2-12 is an omni-directional antenna for 2G/3G/4G, that you can mount and use in cars, trucks, ships/boats and yacths. It is a 2-in-1 antenna system contained in a single housing. It features a 2x Cellular MIMO antennas for 2G/3G/4G/LTE and the new emerging 5G spectrum for 450MHz and 3.5GHz CBRS bands, which is becoming popular across the various international cellular network operators.
Has two antennas in it and comes with 2 cables (LMR195). So it is a 2 x 2 MIMO antenna. It is the perfect antenna to use on the Nighthawk M5, Nighthawk M2, Nighthawk M1 or any of the Teltonika routers we use at RFShop:
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The MIMO 3-15
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Has 5 antennas compacted in the same element: 2 x 4G antennas, 2 x Wifi antennas and 1 GPS antenna. It can be connected to your router via the 4G and the WiFi ports and in this case it will broadcast your WiFi all around the outside of your caravan or house. If this is what you need, this antenna or the MIMO-3-14 are the ones to go for. If you just need Wifi inside your caravan or house then the MIMO-3-12 works best.
The MIMO 3-17
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Has 7 antennas compacted inside. You can connect this to a high level router and get a very solid signal around the outside of your house/caravan, but you may not get a signal inside your house or caravan. This is something to consider.
Another thing to consider with these antennas is, that the box is always the same size but there are 2, 5 or 7 cables coming out of it. To fit the 5 or 7 cables, the cable has to be thinner and that means more signal losses through the cable.
An excellent overview of MIMO-3 types, thankyou
Thank you 😊
@david, a great video. Thank you. Just remember in Europe with also have a -13 (2x2 MIMO LTE/5G + GPS/Glonass). Nice to know that the -15 and -17 are available in black as well :)
Tjeerd, let me plan for an addendum video 😉👍🏻
What a bloody great video! It's so clear to me now
Thanks ;)
Thank you for the info.
Thank you Joe
A daft question perhaps, but puck/mimo antennas are usually mounted horizontally, a most fixed-roof vans have a flat/horizontal roof. Will they work just as well on a sloping roof, as my van has a pop-up roof (I don't want to be limited to only getting best performance from the antenna when the roof in down)
Not a silly question at all. I just recorded a video to address this earlier today, and will edit and upload this weekend as a Shorts. Ideally the antenna should be upright…
@@RFShop great. I'll look out for it
@@RFShop Hi, aby update on tilting these antennas? Can't seem to find a short explaining that
@@tooondi I think I tried the shorts for a while but it was not a great success on our channel...and I ended up deleting them again from the channel. Sorry, means I deleted this video. Let me shoot something in the next few days and upload. It's a simple video to make, but to have an antenna in my hand as I illustrate will help a lot.
Hello, thanks for the video. I have a question that I would like to ask you. I have a TP-Link Archer MR600 v2 router and I would like to add a MIMO Poynting in my van to improve the 4G connection. Do you know if it is compatible with my router? I have the router connected to 12v, is there a problem with this? Or should you have it at 220v? On the other hand understanding your video, the best option for me is the 3-12 MIMO model? Thank you very much for everything and I look forward to your response. All the best.
Hi Raul,
The MIMO-3-12 will work on the TP-Link router. The output of the router / modem into the antenna is completely independent from the power supply input, and there is no need for power to the antenna. In other words, a 12v supply will work perfectly fine.
I do prefer the 3-12 for a router that only needs 2 output antennas, because the more complex models basically put more in the same volume and that's not the best outcome for the antennas. It's a good idea and it works well when needed, but the 4G / 5G antennas will simply work better if there's less clutter around them...so keep it simple and only buy the antenna that is required without additional features that will compromise the overall performance.
Hi everyone, I need to create a wifi network on board my camper and I will briefly describe my needs to get the best possible configuration from you. I mostly do photos and videos, so it's important for me to have a good internet connection available most of the time. For the configuration I am evaluating the MIMO 3-12 poynting system antenna coupled to a Teltonika RUTX50 router that allows me to use sims from different telephone operators. Another very important thing for me is to be able to do a good scan of the wifi networks in the area where I will be parked so that I can connect to any free wifi. What do you recommend for such a need? Thank you.
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Hi Claudio,
Really good question, and actually I think I addressed this in my video uploaded yesterday evening. Please have a look...I think you should choose between the MIMO-3-14 and MIMO-3-17
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Thanks a lot for the answer. I think I will install teltonika rutx50 router with mimo antenna 3-17. Do you have a shop where these devices can be purchased? I write from Italy. Is shipping possible?
@@klaudioad83 I think your best option is in Europe. I would recommend asking Solwise in the UK. Otherwise I can ask contacts…if so please send me a direct email via the email address published on our website.
Excellent
great video. Thanks.
I would like your opinion on the best antenna for the routx50 router for motorhomes. I wanted to have a good WiFi signal inside the motorhome and good external reception. The Poynting antenna, which is the best model? thank you very much. For 5G use. hug from Portugal
Hi, thanks for your patience. I would consider the MIMO-3 series the best antenna, and the MIMO-3-14 is my favourite. It "only" has the 4x4 external antennas, which means the antenna elements are not really disturbed by WiFi and GPS antenna modules and they work best. You would then rely on the RUTX50's WiFi antenna for inside your motorhome, which is really what makes sense to me.
Many thanks for the reply.
However, I had to opt for one of the models and bought the MIMO-3-17 last Friday. Is it possible, if the wifi antenna interferes with the gps antenna, not to connect the external wifi antenna and connect the antennas that come from the rutx50?
I hope it's good anyway.
Thanks again
@@gama-channel not a bad choice. Many people go for the -17 and it is a great antenna :)
Vader with his flowerpot-helmet ... :D
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I’ve got the RUT955 it comes with 4 antennas and the gps unit, I probably wrongly assumed the 2 Wi-Fi antennas were for picking up a site Wi-Fi system and were to be mounted outside!
I’ve currently got a Puck 2 mounted and was going to upgrade to the mimo 3-15, good idea or not?
Hi Tom, there are a few ways around it. You raise the biggest question I am yet to figure out for myself. Whenever I say WiFi inside or outside, the next person always asks for the opposite to what I assumed makes most sense.
I would consider the 15 but keep the option to swap antennas when it is needed. If you buy the -12 you never have the option to do it.
So the theoretically best thing to do would be to connect a separate antenna to each connector on the router and space these antennas on their intended mounting platform i guess?
Yes, two individual antennas would indeed be the best
You tell in the video that there is a solution to the fact that the wifi is redirected outside the camping when using a MIMO with wifi antennas. Couldn't find another video where you talk about that solution. Thx
True...there was (is) a solution but it does not really seem to be used a lot. I think the signal from the MIMO-3 series could be quite strong and able to penetrate the caravan as well. Worth a try in my opinion.
@@RFShop Thx for the feedback but would it be possible to use just one wifi connector for the external antenna and use the other one to connect a simple wifi antenna?
@@teomanonay6063 it's worth testing. The ideal for the WiFi would be a simple 2x2 MIMO, but I can imagine it's not always possible and in those instances I would certainly experiment with using antennas in different locations.
Hey David, great tutorials you are doing at RFShop - thanks a lot. One question: you mentioned that using the two WiFi-antennas of the MIMO-3-17 may result in lower WiFi-performance within the motor home (or truck, or boat) as the »physics focus on outside« and no antenna are present inside - any trick available that I may use simultaneously the standard RUTX50 antenna for the inside and the 2 MIMO-3-17 WiFi’s for the outside (yep, you will have noticed, English is my second language, nevertheless I hope I was able to get it across 😊), best Stefan
Hallo Stefan. Good question...there would be a few tricks one could pull. There are small products that taps a bit of WiFi, but I think a simple splitter and to route the WiFi to indoors and outdoors should be quite doable. If it's something that people really need...may RFShop (Black Art Technologies) should design a simple product...let me know if you think it's worth the effort ???
@@RFShop Hello David. Hard to say. If the sole use of MIMO-3-15/17 Wifi antennas on the RV roof results in noticeable less Wifi coverage inside the RV compared to an inside standard attached Wifi antenna configuration (as being supplied e.g. with RUTX50 routers) there might well be a demand for a proper dual-parallel splitted solution on Wifi antenna. May be worth a test and a UA-cam video. I have no decent idea whether there might be a signal difference within these two scenarios. what do you reckon? -best Stefan
@@smiletier6622 I think that WiFi generally has a longer reach than what people expect, so the 3dB or a bit more loss should not really cause a notable degradation (in my humble opinion :) )
@@RFShop Would it be possible to use one of the WiFi antennas on the MIMO-3 for the outside coverage (to piggy back on a public 2.4GHz WiFi) and use one of the included short antennas of the RUTX50 for inside 5.8GHz coverage? Or is one of the antennas for sending and the other for receiving, so that setup will result in bad coverage both inside and outside?
@@callertun I would recommend using both antennas for the same purposes where possible
Helpful video. Is there a way to test if the Ariel is working. My Nighthawk M1 seems to get faster download and upload speeds on its own as opposed to when my Mimo 3-V2-12 is plugged in which is strange. Any advice much appreciated. Thanks
Harry, one thing to check first are the TS9 pigtails / connectors. We quite often see issues with the smaller inner pins...once bent they could still register on the NightHawk as an external antenna, but meanwhile they actually short and do nothing.
On the other hand, it is probably better to look at the signal strength (RSRP) on the device than speed tests. The external antenna may just connect to another signal / tower that then uses a different connection type or speed.
It's best to repeat this kind of study in different places as well. If it always happens I would look at the TS9 pigtails.
@@RFShop thank you for the swift reply, really useful. I will try different pigtails and locations before condemning the unit. cheers
What is the GPS/Glonass antenna for? Time sync? Thx
It gets used by the modem or device connected to. Often used for location services
If these go up to 3.8ghz
And 5G is 3.6ghz
Could you lose 200mhz+ in cable loss and therefore lose 5G signal?
Hi. No it does not matter that the antenna is capable of higher frequencies as well…you just don’t use those bands
Hi, have you ever opened any MIMO-3- from Poynting that you can tell me if there is space for Teltonika RUTX14 or RUTX50 inside (without original Teltonika housing, just PCB and shorten RF cables with crimping new connectors on existing cables) to create all-in-one device like Peplink MAX HD1/ PRO is done ? I would like to re-build MIMO-3-14 into single device with integrated RUTX14/50 with single 1x passive POE-in connected to LAN1
Thanks :)
Hi Lenart. The MIMO antennas are, unfortunately, fully sealed and foam filled. It's not possible to open them at all ( I cannot confirm nor deny that I may have looked at "it" myself ). You may want to look at the new EPNT series of antennas for that type of modification. A video is coming in the next few weeks :)
@@RFShop Ok thanks :) I know for EPNT 1&2 but they are bigger and don't have magnetic mount :( For driving I would say EPNT-1 is better and for multiple usage EPNT-2 would be better right ?
@@L4zYA55 You are probably right, the EPNT's are too big for mobile setups. In this case my preference would be to keep to the cable
@@RFShop do you think that both EPNT's can be mounted horizontally when using omni antennas (EPNT-2 has 2x omni + 2x uni) and would work the same as vertically mounted, asking this because of wind when driving. The best solution for me is Peplink MAX HD1 DOME PRO 5G but is way too much money, so that is why I am thinking to put RUTX50 into small antenna and the magnets mount would be perfect and better than Peplink Dome :)
@@L4zYA55 you mean flat on its back? I would not recommend it. I don't know the inner construction of the omni antenna assembly well enough as it would be key to understand where those antennas are. Only problem I can already see is that all antennas ( I think ) would lie horisontally so there would be no vertical polarised elements, and it would not be in the omni-cut but in the bi-directional donut cut of the antenna.
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