600 Mhz is the best for long distance, upwards of 35 miles to the nearest cellular tower. Midband is going to be limited to the rural areas predominantly. Currently 1900 Mhz is the most common frequency that is used to get cellular to your house if you are up to 20 miles from the tower. If you closer and have little tree or hills, 2700 mhz is great, but it's really limited to 8 miles. Thus midband 3000-5000 mhz is going to be really limited in range to 1-2 miles, good in a port or RV park.
That's not true about 600 Mhz. It's all just advertising hype! T-Mobile has B71 here on their tower and the range isn't any better than the other bands that fade out around 1 1/2 miles.
The C-Band frequencies, as you know, were taken from what used to be the C-Band satellite spectrum. I was involved in satellite communications for the past 40 years and the way that we got C-Band, KU-Band information from a dais was to bring it down to a low frequency. I don't know if I would want a modem in the antenna myself.
I have a TP- MR-400 4G sim router at my home and will these antennas useful to connect to my router as my router have 18W power adpter as power connector. So will it work together? and which frequence antenna work better for me as network towers are 4-5 kilometers away from my location. EAGERLY WAITING FOR YOUR REPLY AND ALSO TELL ME FROM WHERE I CAN BUY IT
These antennas are primarily intended for mobile applications on vehicles, RVs and boats. If you are stationary you probably want to optimize for what's best at your particular location. We don't cover stationary options.
I would really really appreciate a video comparing Parsec and Panorama antennas, explaining why Panorama is cheaper, and what differentiates them. I've tried to compare myself, but it's tough. It'll honestly be too late for me, as I basically need to buy today, but I'm sure someone else has the same question. A written article or reply to this soon would be lifesaving. Why is parsec 9:1 $550 but Panorama 9:1 is $280? (paid member but no forum access).
Our full MIAs have access to our antenna testing lab in the forums ... however we don't have a Panorama in for testing. But our antenna selection guide is here to understand how to compare specs: www.rvmobileinternet.com/cellularantennas
If I'm looking to increase chances of getting a cell signal (verizon) and using my iphone 10, 11 hotspot to check email and log into a few websites, should I be looking to purchase an antenna or a booster? What combination should the average RVer be looking for to increase their chance of a signal at campsites?
Here's our guide to optimizing data performance: www.rvmobileinternet.com/cellsignal. Phones don't have antenna ports, so antenna only solutions are not an option for you.
I have been looking at a Omni Directional TV antenna mounted on top of a telescoping flag pole on the ladder. Would the Directional 5G antenna interfere signal if mounted on the same pole, or is this two different concepts? Thank you!
We cover placement and installation in our cell antenna guide and installation guides - www.rvmobileinternet.com/cellularantennas & www.rvmobileinternet.com/installation
I am on a boat and am looking at that mofi5500. We have at&t SIM card now for data on my iPad now and use it as a hotspot when marina wifi starts slowing down. Which antennae would be best for the boat?
Quick question. I just purchased a Mofi router for my rv and I'm wondering if there is any benefit to setting up two omni directional antennas on my roof or if just one will suffice. Thanks all!
Is there one that is best for T-mobile? Also, seems like waiting for Starlink might make more sense. Also, once you install the antenna is the idea that you run the cable to an internal wifi router?
What do you think about this antenna for t-mobile in an RV? 5gstore.com/product/10300_pepwave_puma_221_black.html It looks like it covers all the bases and I see that you did a review of the 4x channel model. Any opinion of why 4x channel would be better than the 2x channel with wifi built in? I think I'd prefer the built in wifi.
I have motorhome with the side and front wings on the roof would that interfere with the reception of the parsec husky antenna or would it need to be installed with a base to get it above the wings?
We have some tips to help you analyze your antenna installation: www.rvmobileinternet.com/guides/mobile-antenna-installation-for-rvs-boats-wifi-cellular/
Interesting. Seems a bit pointless having a 4x4 mimo omni tbh like that husky, if it is a true omni, as mimo benefits directional antennas better. Also, for boats no point, as again mimo is for environments with lots of multipath and fast fading. Large open areas will not be impacted as much, and won't have higher freq band higher throughout sites anyways. Interesting to see some real results though on them. I tested the poynting 4g one and didn't get 5g as no decent routers yet
There is indeed less odds of a 4x4 MIMO antenna being able to deliver 4x performance out over open water, since there are indeed less reflections to differentiate the signals. But the more advanced cellular modems can also use the 4 antennas for increased sensitivity as well - so 4x4 MIMO can still have advantages. These antennas in particular are aimed at vehicle / RV installations.
Very Good Vid. Great for Newbies or Non tech knowledgable. Still.. There is Far more that can be done. Especially with Mimo and Multi direction ( multi tower ) connections ( depending on where one is ) Also most these multi antennas in one and or the Greater amounts of Frequency's an antenna recieves.. is Often a Unity gain or low gain antenna. Still.. We are Starting to see worth while options. Especially if one understands what Spectrum of frequency(s) one wants and or needs and whether Omni or directional antenna(s)
Agreed, 5G millimeter antennas probably ain't gonna happen soon! So if you're having a connection problem, that's where your collapsible ladder comes into play - climb up on your rooftop and.. voila, now your 5G millimeter mobile phone may receive a signal ;-) And that's if: - Your within a mile or two from the tower - You have Visual Line Of Sight (VLOS) - Your cellular company has everything working perfectly This reminds me of when the phone companies were rolling out Integrated Service Digital Network gear to business and homes - great concept but had real-world limitations. Turned out folks would joke that ISDN really stood for "I Sure Don't Need" hehe. Let's hope that 5G millimeter enjoys a long life for biz folks in downtown metro or other high-density bandwidth locations (major sporting/entertainment events, etc). For the rest of us, maybe someday at National Park but for rural campers - not so much.
Actually, thinking about this a bit more, perhaps sending your 5G millimeter phone up a mast pole above your RV may be helpful, turning on its Wi-Fi hotspot to connect to your computer "down below."
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter Thanks for the info MIRC! For sure, with the propagation range is only 500 Meters for a standard configuration, carriers will need lots of nodes using a mesh network like this Verizon illustrative photo: www.verizon.com/about/news/benefits-of-5g
5G is “nationwide” already - but it will indeed be a few years before 5G is worthwhile and worth worrying about in many places nationwide. A lot of the 5G today is not all that different than 4G.
Someone's got to invent/create smaller coaxial wire that is low loss. Might be a pipe dream but whether they 'dope' the wires or gold coat them the present state of wire science hasn't changed in decades. The size of the bundle of coax coming out of these antennas is ridiculous..........
You can only go so far with that. The smaller the coax, the greater the loss. Better to mount the radio on your roof with the antennas connected via short waveguide.
600 Mhz is the best for long distance, upwards of 35 miles to the nearest cellular tower. Midband is going to be limited to the rural areas predominantly. Currently 1900 Mhz is the most common frequency that is used to get cellular to your house if you are up to 20 miles from the tower. If you closer and have little tree or hills, 2700 mhz is great, but it's really limited to 8 miles. Thus midband 3000-5000 mhz is going to be really limited in range to 1-2 miles, good in a port or RV park.
That's not true about 600 Mhz. It's all just advertising hype! T-Mobile has B71 here on their tower and the range isn't any better than the other bands that fade out around 1 1/2 miles.
This is greet to hear,small steps for big room for development on Network carrier.
so what antenna will be installed on your new van????????????? thanks.. great info..
We haven't decided yet.. will do a bit of testing, and see what fits best.
Good info. I'm sure plenty of folks are eagerly looking forward to the mobile, 5g capable modems :)
5G modem he’ll yeah
The C-Band frequencies, as you know, were taken from what used to be the C-Band satellite spectrum. I was involved in satellite communications for the past 40 years and the way that we got C-Band, KU-Band information from a dais was to bring it down to a low frequency. I don't know if I would want a modem in the antenna myself.
Why so big the window 2x2 Mimi was great. Would like one like it 4x4?
I have a TP- MR-400 4G sim router at my home and will these antennas useful to connect to my router as my router have 18W power adpter as power connector.
So will it work together? and which frequence antenna work better for me as network towers are 4-5 kilometers away from my location.
EAGERLY WAITING FOR YOUR REPLY AND ALSO TELL ME FROM WHERE I CAN BUY IT
These antennas are primarily intended for mobile applications on vehicles, RVs and boats. If you are stationary you probably want to optimize for what's best at your particular location. We don't cover stationary options.
I would really really appreciate a video comparing Parsec and Panorama antennas, explaining why Panorama is cheaper, and what differentiates them. I've tried to compare myself, but it's tough. It'll honestly be too late for me, as I basically need to buy today, but I'm sure someone else has the same question. A written article or reply to this soon would be lifesaving. Why is parsec 9:1 $550 but Panorama 9:1 is $280? (paid member but no forum access).
Our full MIAs have access to our antenna testing lab in the forums ... however we don't have a Panorama in for testing. But our antenna selection guide is here to understand how to compare specs: www.rvmobileinternet.com/cellularantennas
Can I buy two 2x2 Mimo and attached them to my 5G router?
Yes, that will work. We cover this in our guide to cellular antennas: www.rvmobileinternet.com/cellularantennas
If I'm looking to increase chances of getting a cell signal (verizon) and using my iphone 10, 11 hotspot to check email and log into a few websites, should I be looking to purchase an antenna or a booster? What combination should the average RVer be looking for to increase their chance of a signal at campsites?
Here's our guide to optimizing data performance: www.rvmobileinternet.com/cellsignal. Phones don't have antenna ports, so antenna only solutions are not an option for you.
I have been looking at a Omni Directional TV antenna mounted on top of a telescoping flag pole on the ladder. Would the Directional 5G antenna interfere signal if mounted on the same pole, or is this two different concepts? Thank you!
We cover placement and installation in our cell antenna guide and installation guides - www.rvmobileinternet.com/cellularantennas & www.rvmobileinternet.com/installation
I am on a boat and am looking at that mofi5500. We have at&t SIM card now for data on my iPad now and use it as a hotspot when marina wifi starts slowing down. Which antennae would be best for the boat?
Here's our guide to selecting antennas: www.rvmobileinternet.com/cellularantennas
Quick question. I just purchased a Mofi router for my rv and I'm wondering if there is any benefit to setting up two omni directional antennas on my roof or if just one will suffice. Thanks all!
The Mofi has inputs for two, it utilizes MIMO. More on cellular antennas: www.rvmobileinternet.com/cellularantennas
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter Thank you for the speedy reply!
Is there one that is best for T-mobile? Also, seems like waiting for Starlink might make more sense. Also, once you install the antenna is the idea that you run the cable to an internal wifi router?
For T-Mobile, best to shop for one with B71/600 MHz (as covered in the video). And yes, you'd run it to your cellular embedded router/modem.
What do you think about this antenna for t-mobile in an RV? 5gstore.com/product/10300_pepwave_puma_221_black.html It looks like it covers all the bases and I see that you did a review of the 4x channel model. Any opinion of why 4x channel would be better than the 2x channel with wifi built in? I think I'd prefer the built in wifi.
Totally depends on if you need 2x2 or 4x4 MIMO for cellular. If you're a member, please do ask in our forums where we can better assist you. Thanks!
"Absorbed" seems more accurate than "pulls"... but great info - always! Thanks
Gain is even more accurate along with knowing the radiation pattern(s) of the given antenna and Ones Needs
I have motorhome with the side and front wings on the roof would that interfere with the reception of the parsec husky antenna or would it need to be installed with a base to get it above the wings?
We have some tips to help you analyze your antenna installation: www.rvmobileinternet.com/guides/mobile-antenna-installation-for-rvs-boats-wifi-cellular/
How rugged are these antennas for permanent installation on an RV?
They are designed for RV outdoor installation.
Would these 5g antennas also work in the UK with our current 5g systems or are they tweaked specifically for US 5g frequencies and settings?
You'd have to research the UK requirements - we are focused on US based solutions.
GREAT INFO - THANK YOU SO MUCH
Always good info. Looking at them.
Luckily now, 3 years later we have the Spitz AX or GL-x3000 in America. Which has 4 5g antenna ports
Interesting. Seems a bit pointless having a 4x4 mimo omni tbh like that husky, if it is a true omni, as mimo benefits directional antennas better. Also, for boats no point, as again mimo is for environments with lots of multipath and fast fading. Large open areas will not be impacted as much, and won't have higher freq band higher throughout sites anyways. Interesting to see some real results though on them. I tested the poynting 4g one and didn't get 5g as no decent routers yet
There is indeed less odds of a 4x4 MIMO antenna being able to deliver 4x performance out over open water, since there are indeed less reflections to differentiate the signals. But the more advanced cellular modems can also use the 4 antennas for increased sensitivity as well - so 4x4 MIMO can still have advantages. These antennas in particular are aimed at vehicle / RV installations.
Very Good Vid.
Great for Newbies or Non tech knowledgable.
Still..
There is Far more that can be done.
Especially with Mimo and Multi direction ( multi tower ) connections ( depending on where one is )
Also most these multi antennas in one and or the Greater amounts of Frequency's an antenna recieves.. is Often a Unity gain or low gain antenna.
Still..
We are Starting to see worth while options.
Especially if one understands what Spectrum of frequency(s) one wants and or needs and whether Omni or directional antenna(s)
Can I use mimo antenna with a tplink MR400 router which has 2 4g antenna connectors
And cellular device with two or more antenna ports can use external MIMO antennas.
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter thanks
Will a 5g also work with 4g lte?
5G equipment is backwards compatible with LTE.
What are you hooking the 4x4 mimo antennas to? Thanks...
Into modems with 4x4 antenna ports (like the Pepwave Cat-18 products) or with dual modem setups.
Can you test the R5020 5G router??
Robustel is focused on enterprise deployments, and as best I can tell is not sold in the United States. So it is outside our area of focus.
good info as usual.
Agreed, 5G millimeter antennas probably ain't gonna happen soon! So if you're having a connection problem, that's where your collapsible ladder comes into play - climb up on your rooftop and.. voila, now your 5G millimeter mobile phone may receive a signal ;-) And that's if:
- Your within a mile or two from the tower
- You have Visual Line Of Sight (VLOS)
- Your cellular company has everything working perfectly
This reminds me of when the phone companies were rolling out Integrated Service Digital Network gear to business and homes - great concept but had real-world limitations. Turned out folks would joke that ISDN really stood for "I Sure Don't Need" hehe. Let's hope that 5G millimeter enjoys a long life for biz folks in downtown metro or other high-density bandwidth locations (major sporting/entertainment events, etc). For the rest of us, maybe someday at National Park but for rural campers - not so much.
Actually, thinking about this a bit more, perhaps sending your 5G millimeter phone up a mast pole above your RV may be helpful, turning on its Wi-Fi hotspot to connect to your computer "down below."
For mmWave you need to be within a couple blocks of the transmitting source. Mid-band is the ‘mile or two’.
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter Thanks for the info MIRC! For sure, with the propagation range is only 500 Meters for a standard configuration, carriers will need lots of nodes using a mesh network like this Verizon illustrative photo:
www.verizon.com/about/news/benefits-of-5g
Neato
mmWave up to 40Gbps
Good information about 5g what i understand it's going to be a couple more years before 5g is truly nation wide.
5G is “nationwide” already - but it will indeed be a few years before 5G is worthwhile and worth worrying about in many places nationwide. A lot of the 5G today is not all that different than 4G.
Someone's got to invent/create smaller coaxial wire that is low loss. Might be a pipe dream but whether they 'dope' the wires or gold coat them the present state of wire science hasn't changed in decades. The size of the bundle of coax coming out of these antennas is ridiculous..........
You can only go so far with that. The smaller the coax, the greater the loss. Better to mount the radio on your roof with the antennas connected via short waveguide.
@@thecw301 Yep.....Elon Musk's new satellite antenna is a perfect example of moving the radio/amp right onto the antenna (military grade log-periodic)