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Six Things I'd Want in Persona 6
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- Опубліковано 18 сер 2024
- Some concepts and things I'd want to see return in the (still theoretical) Persona 6. Some of these are pretty normal, and the big boy is full blown crackheaded as you'd expect from me.
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Persona 4 taught me that if a girl is giving me problems I should throw her into a tv
The greatest lesson of all!
Adach-male grindset, abuse and push bothersome women into the tv.
The moral of persona 4: B I T C H
Life lesson right there 🙏
Yea, don’t you know the real murder was the friends we made along the way
I think P4 does the whole "a real group that are friends" thing so well because, in a realistic group you don't see them spend time with each other but it's so easily implied by how they bicker or tease each other. It's implied that Rise and Kanji talk often, Chie and Yukiko are best friends and Yosuke was already their friend when you got there, Yosuke has to take care of Teddie, Naoto also talks with Kanji and Rise, etc. etc. There's not that kind of implication in P5 (other than maybe Ryuji and Ann and Morgana and Haru) where they are all from like different classes and schools, at least in P5S there's some of that implication for Haru and Makoto. P3 has them all act like coworkers (outside of your classmates) until at least November~January where everyone sets their goals together and such.
yes
Exactly, my man!
Yeah, I feel like P4's cast does do the "group independence" thing well, just to a lesser extent compared to P3 where you actually get to see those scenes outside the protagonist's view.
Omori Futaba? Nice
This is exactly my opinion in that subject
I think it would be cool if the hierophant "mentor" character was a retired persona user with some kind of tragic backstory. It would be a shocking reveal and an interesting hook into the more serious plot. Also they could join the party at some point and it'd be cool as hell.
THIS!!!!!!!!!!! It would be so cool if we had a character like Dojima but a Playable Persona Character.
Dude, imagine sojiro using a persona.
Or hell, bunkichi and mitsuko. Imagine a duo character with matching personas.
EDIT: also, we basically have something like that already. Shinjiro. While he’s not a social link in p3 and the moon social link in p3p, his actual arcana is hierophant, so we technically have a retired hierophant persona user with a tragic backstory that joins the party
How about a father/mother Persona user that’s lost their child and coming to terms with it years later while trying to reconcile with their partner? Basically if Wolf had lost his daughter instead of his wife.
If you really want brownie points maybe a character from P1/2 or Devil Summoner
I think it’d be dope to allow social links to reach a level to where they join your party. Only allow one or two max per play through to maximize replayabilitly and party composition.
Imagine persona 6 but it's bill and Ted's excellent adventure.
That would be pretty sick
strange things are afoot at the circle k
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Sounds pretty excellent, dude!
Excellent
I think a nice middle ground would be if tier 2 evolutions happened during the story. But if you maxed out the social link you unlock your party member's tier 3 persona and you can't unlock tier 3 or finish the social link until after the tier 2 evolution happens in the main story.
Good idea!
That would be so much better!
That is just the idea I had when making out some Persona fan characters/fan game. I didn't go too far into ideas (heck due to how I limited myself, I couldn't even think of Personas for one of them, rip), but it is the perfect way to do it.
Too bad Atlus seems to just like using tier 3 Personas as a "well we added a new dungeon to this + version of our game so let's make upgrades to everyone's Personas" rather than giving them too big of meaning. I mean yes all those awakenings are about how important to protagonist is and 5 does a better job justifying their existence rather than basically saying the max social link stuff again (sorry 4, it kind of felt that way) but still.
Plus depending on how they write the social links, it would, gasp, give characters CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT AFTER JOINING THE PARTY. Persona 3 had most of the characters get (stable) development but 4 and 5? I can only really think of...3? Maybe 5? (Teddie, Morgana, Futuba, Akechi (but does he count?) and Sumi).)
Sumi confidant is interesting, since it can only get to 5 at first and you can only unlock the rest after Maruki ordeal, they should do the ultimate personas with a mixing of this detail with persona 3, you get rank 5 with your party members, the social link stops, they get a second persona after some traumatic story event, you finish the social link and get the 3rd tier, Morgana social link kinda works like that too but his is entirely story based and the confidants should be unnavailable for some time so you can't rank up them too fast after they get second tier
That’s absolutely perfect!
The moment that truly made me love royal was the fact that you could just side with Maruki and that his ending was taken seriously by the game, particularly the credits slideshow of everyone having their dreams come true, instead of just being, “Uwu game over.”
If persona 6 pulls something even close to that off, then it’ll easily be game of the year whenever it comes out.
Uwu
It did? I'd say it wouldn't because it cuts the game short and you don't get the "real" credits music.
Basically a non standard game over
@@nekonomicon9938 bro with that logic every ending that makes the game end prematurely in gaming history is a non standard game over lol
@@firstnamelastname7244 It sucks because originally it didn't cut the game short. There are unused Valentine and White Day dates, but in Maruki's reality. It becomes creepy if you do the harem route. Instead of Joker being beat up the girls not only accept what's happening they are happy about it.
persona 3: accepting death
persona 4: accepting yourself
persona 5: accepting society
persona 6: persona go brrr
Persona 6: accepting the end
lmao imagine getting a confidant from an ancient time period and then his persona unlocks and it's some historical figure like Julius Caesar or Goemon and he's just like "oh I know that person"
just some random ass caveman who can't comprehend English and just goes with the flow
@@lick816 the fool. The start
@@lick816 He'd be the bro of the party.
I would love to see Rapunzel as a persona
@@unicorntomboy9736 like shadow Chie
I have an idea: How about you get to play as the other party members for certain story segments? They temporarily become the protagonist, and you get to see their view on things
So kinda similar to Sonic Adventure 1 & 2?
@@marronhak2441 Something Similar
@@marronhak2441 Here's my idea. Let's say the story shifts to Ryuji's view during the Kamoshida arc. Ryui and Ann both decide to complete Kamoshida's palace, and take him on. Since they're both noob Persona users, that wouldn't go too well. Ren and Morgana discover that Ryuji and Ann went to the palace on their own, so they have to speed run to the end inorder to save the two
@@marronhak2441 i was thinking mother 2 and 3
That might be possible, they already toyed with that in strikers
"Out of all of the characters in persona 5 Akechi is one of them"
"woah i didn't know that one of the main antagonists and plot important characters is actually a character"
Well, if he said anymore this might have unintentionally turned into a Goro video.
That sure is a fact
People die when they are killed
@@TheFIRESTARX
It would. It’s happened several times, including going cross franchise.
"become friends with a guy who killed his wife." Well, you can kind of do that in Catherine lol
Catherine's protag is in p3p...
Well he didn't kill his wife in a literal since at all, more accurately he blames himself for the death of his wife. He accidently put her at bad place at a bad time. It was indirectly his fault and he has survivors guilt.
1. Characters like Nanako from Persona 4 come back in Persona 6 as a teenager, and they are a persona user.
2. Main character swaps body with villian (something like Chrono Cross).
3. Having two main characters who eventually meet and work together. So the story beginning in the first day of school, and around the halfway part of the story, the main character gets kidnapped (main character A). You then jump back to the first day of school and play as main character B. Main character A, in the first half, can access stuff in their area but not in main character's B area and vice versa. There would be clues that something is up like, "Huh, that's strange, it's locked. Like something got here first," and it turns out it was main character B.
4. One of the members in our group turns evil. Akechi was already evil, so he doesn't count. I mean someone who is good but then changes to evil and backstabs us, and we need to figure out who did it (Kind of like Persona 4 in that regards) (maybe they are the on who gets us kidnapped, but we don't know it yet, until we get some clues from the main character B).
5. A villian that exists from day 1 and actually tries to hinder or kill the main characters throughout the whole game. They could get away with killing a persona user, as it hasn't been done since Persona 3, so there has been some room where they can do this again.
6. Maybe have a social link in which when you max it out, they become a persona user and help you out. However, this then unlocks another social link with them in which they would have to explore what it means to be a persona user. It could see this being a thing for the third semester.
Number 5 kinda reminds me of Radiant Historia.
Number 4 is literally SMT party member in a nutshell
Number 4 and 5 are really cool concepts
1. NO
2. NO
3. NO
4. YES
5. NO
6. NO
4 reminds me of lost dimension, another game actually published by atlus. It's pretty good, like a hidden gold bar rather than a gem.
The important theme for me in persona 4 is facing yourself, that you shouldnt deny sides of yourself, not denying that truth. That is really something that I love about the game.
yeah same, i feel that is the core theme of the game and why it resonates with me quite a bit
Yeah this is cool but I hate that persona 4 itself destroys it's own theme in the ending
I would like to see old characters in the new game that do not necessarily play an important role in the plot (like Tanaka), for example, imagine a link with Eikichi, who is experiencing a creative crisis, or a university student working in a local store turns out to be Yosuke
That would be Fun! I didn't even realize Tanaka was in P4 and P5 until earlier this year.
Unlikely, since none of those ps1 era characters can't do anything unless the writer comes back
I think that’s what a lot of the persona games lack which is a real connection to each other out side of statements from the velvet rooms attendants. It would be cool to see some characters make a cameo or be mentioned like you said with Yusuke like a character mentions him as a artist on the rise or something
Imagine every Link is a previous Link/Confidant.
This ties well too with the Persona Academy idea being floated around. Mitsuru comes back as the Empress link, but now is progressed like Margaret's link.
I don't think they should bring back a bunch of old characters as social links, but I think just 1 would be pretty nice. Imagine getting to know Nanako who's grown up now lol.
Idea for other party members to interact with one another more frequently: The MC is doing some after school club activity and in the middle of it something like "From the window you can see it's pouring hard.......You see Ryuji running at full sprint through the rain and Ann straggling behind him with an open umbrella.....what could've happened?" pops up and then school club resumes.
Time travel concept? I wanna see Tatsuya and minato meet and they can spew edgy one liners at eachother
"I don't care"
*Motorcycle noise*
@@ManTimeline "bad luck running into me"
"Whatever"
makoto
feels like a spin off game, i think 6 should be stand alone personally.
@@wrrrryyyy12 "whatever"
Seriously tho no name is correct or incorrect. Hell you could call him Roger.
What I really want in P6 is for there to be an antagonist who's another wild card who has a well built arsenal of personas and you have to build your own arsenal to counter that.
Like the Elizabeth fight from P3 FES
That indicates that the villain has to have bonds with other people to have an Arsenal of personas. Knowing Atlus that probably won’t happen cause the last two games had the “you’re not like me right” opposite of your character
@@RaspyCh well maybe they can do something interesting and have the rival character be more of an evil counterpart rather then just a friendless loser foil. They can have their own friends and bonds.
@@RaspyChbonds with past villains
Imagine you and the crew vs the antagonist and his family of traumatized rejects.
Persona wars with a wildcard on each side.
I swear, there's gonna be a villain who's surname has some -chi in there.
Achi
Dachi
Mochi
As is tradition. I will give you my suggestion, Baruchi.
Drachi
BRUH I WAS LITERALLY JUST THINKING ABOUT THAT TIME TRAVEL SHIT MITSURU'S DAD WAS TALKING ABOUT IN PERSONA 3, I DON'T REALLY REMEMBER WHAT HE SAID BUT SOMEONE IN MITSURU'S FAMILY WAS TRYING TO MAKE A TIME MACHINE AND THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE AWESOME
@@charnalk5572 no, that's what they said in order to cover the real truth that they were just some weird ass nihilists that wanted to bring the fall to the world.
And that vision is what infested the world with shadows. And now, the personification of death was revived because everyone thought that killing the shadows will end it
You mean the abyss of time?
Persona 6
You summon personas by tweeting to cancel someone.
Good idea
Kamoshida would go down hard
@@TheJadedJames FAX
They got to Ratio them before the deadline
I say suicide for it like how samurai back then
Also plot twist, the time traveling badguy is actually the main character from the future
This would be cool
@@oiopquatro4846 Time travel is always cool~
That sounds oddly similar to Fate…
Better, you start the game without any major oposition and after the 1st/2nd boss some things change, you start to track down whoever is causing this and it ends up being you from the past. You get 2 choices: One ending where you let it be and you live but bad things still happen, and the other one you kill your past self in order to restore the future but because of that you die.
Infamous 1?
I really want P6 to be green and healing being the theme with the new attendant being a nurse. Leading into P7 where the abilities of each protagonist are needed
I feel like P6 would be the all protag game given that it's the 25th anniversary
With how big the series has grown it's the perfect time
@@RegenWasTaken i mean, by the time persona 7 may come out it'll probably be the 30th anniversary.
@@deadlock9174 true but still no time like the present lol
If persona 6 will be about healing, then it's gonna be the final game. A lot of pain and suffering happened from persona 1 up to persona 4, and a healing is in order. So if that really is what persona 6 theme will be then it will be the final game
Which means, we're gonna see them fight nyx because nyx and it's shadows is the one that started this
If we get green, we have every colour on the World Arcana.
Plot twist: The Antagonist was the protagonist the whole time
we need p6 to be about adachi getting released or breaking out of prison just to spread his incel energy amongst the internet gremlins
And he teams up with Akechi
I think to an extent, he's made peace with time in jail, seen in P4AU.
But him breaking out would be extremely fun to watch.
Adachi would open R/WeLiveInASociety a Reddit for Incels, Big Tedchungs memes and people relating their problems with society (and Women=Ban)
I want that to be a plot point in 5 arena
Adachi isn't a incel just someone who's stressed with a really bad god complex
What if instead of having free form time travel, the time periods you go back to are only available to go back to because humanity is reminded of a traumatic event that happened and the protagonist has to go in the other world not to stop it from happening in the first place but to stop a similar event from occurring in the present
You mean Radiant Historia, the game made by Atlus that did something uncannily similar to your idea a few years ago?
This evokes Sonic Gens feels.
It sounds pretty similar to Singularities from FGO
My prediction for Persona 6 is this:
Seeing how the games love to incorporate technology more and more into the plot as it progresses (especially in 4 and 5) My bet is that persona 6 is going to involve virtual reality in some form. Maybe having Kei and the Nanjo group make an online game based off his past, but things from the metaverse (or equivalent of) start leaking into it and the protagonist and his friends basically fight to stop it from leaking into real life
That's the plot of smt nine
Sword Nine Persona V6?
I had actually drafted a concept for Persona 6, just for fun, a while back.
My idea was for it to focus a lot on theater and art, with "The Big Thing" (like the TV World, Tartarus, the Metaverse, etc) being a classical theater. An unknown force puts on a new play every month, wherein the theater becomes a gateway to an alternate world designed to perfectly mimic the setting of the play. The danger being the "Casting Call," an event where shadows abduct humans from the real world to participate as actors.
The Velvet Room would take on the appearance of an art supply store, with the Velvet Attendant being a gifted painter. Personas would be represented by portraits, which are pressed together and magically synthesized to create new Personas during the fusion process.
I didn't get too in-detail, and I don't expect anything like it to actually happen, but I thought it was fun to come up with.
That's really awesome. How would the party summon their personas?
Fair warning: Since there's a Persona tabletop rpg I might steal that idea for a campaign if I ever get around to GMing.
I like the idea of time travel Persona, it could be something like Tokyo Revengers (great anime airing btw) and they need to do this back and forth through time to prevent something from happening and add the past of your group into these travels that also gives a good oportunity to re introduce the story based persona evolution and hell, maybe they could do a something went wrong and meet Raidou or an alternate universe section of their present
Featuring Raidou Kuzunoha from the SMT series
The raidou games are in the persona universe
Akihiko's awakening added another 6 minutes to my 20 minutes of crying from Shinjiro's death but it was beautiful. I love Persona 3.
Fither: Crackhead timetravel idea
Me: Persona 6 featuring Raidou Kuzunoha from the devil summoner series
P.S.: Raidou does time travel
Persona 6 featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry series.
Love the Cvit burn. Also, time travel and persona should not go together.
I agree. I'm not looking to play chrono trigger
Didn't Persona 2 had time travel
@@Doralga not really, it was technically
Spoiler
Tatsuya remaking the universe to that the masked circle never existed so humanity never self destructs because of the domino effect that Jun playing in the masked circle created with his dad authoring In La’Kesh. So no it’s not really time travel.
@@Doralga it was more like a alternate. Dimension then time travel
@@phillemon7664 still the mask cycle event has to be canon for those events to play out which Tatsuya erased and... OK hear me out time travel can work if it's at the beginning of your story
and not a plot twist still I consider what Tatsuya did was a salty runback
I think a good theme for 6 could be about accepting change, whether it be the environment around you, people close to you, or even new feelings and thoughts within yourself. Maybe they are fighting against those who want to stick to tradition, not allowing people to be themselves. Just my theory. It could even work with your time travel idea of someone from the past or future experiencing new things
Love all your ideas for the new game, definitely agree with the impactful villain and team members spending more time with each other and not in the group.
I’m thinking of using time travel to explore the theme of entropy and decay. How things in time will gradually wear down til they break or a person eventually meets their end a bit like Persona 3 but it’s more of the inevitability and if the future is set in stone or not.
Hard agree on story-based persona upgrades, even though I know it won't happen. Characterization is just so harmed by the writers never knowing whether or not the player has done optional S. Link content, and having to write around that.
I really hope it comes back as well. Maybe a small upgrade from max social links? Like a weapon upgrade or something. And the main evolution comes from the story. Also it works i think. Since the development the characters get in their social link isnt that much, at least 5 handles it much better. P4 had the characters get huge development in their social links and makes it awkward in the main story
@@chelronin7843 You could just have no social links with party members and only with side characters I guess
@@punbasedname9032 nah i really enjoy having that little extra interaction with your team members. Like I said, p5 did a better job at giving the characters tiny enough character development to where it didnt affect the main plot. Also having them learn skills and giving you useful abilities was really cool. I hope the next game does something similar with social links.
The smt fandom bitches about social links at every opportunity so idk maybe im a bit defensive of it tho
@@punbasedname9032 I know it's probably super unpopular, but I agree. While there are certainly benefits to the extra interaction with party members, giving every single party member a social link has done more harm than good IMO. It's made it so that big character resolutions have to be shuffled into optional content, rather than as a natural consequence of a character's arc in the main game - and so the arcs themselves have suffered to varying degrees. The only other solution I can think of is making party member S. Links a requisite to go on with the story, but while that works when you just have a couple (like Faith in Royal), adding too many of those would just make the schedule overly restrictive.
Seems like everyone on the planet agrees except atlus :/
Small wish from me: I want to see a permanent male navigator. They always push the role onto a girl (at least in P3-P5) and I would love to see a male navigator in the mix who doesn't change into a purely fighting party member at some point.
I want a game where the protag MC has the Navigator Persona.
How this could function is the Wild Card being only the Velvet Room Attendant, with everyone in the party having a fixed Arcana but being able to use all the Personas of their Arcana. The protag doesn't directly get involved in battle, but the Attendant gives them a Persona/Demon Summoning Charm that calls into battle Personas of the types you've formed Social Links with to fill a party slot (with the first being Fool since the Attendant is the Fool) and that are knocked out of being used again when KOed. The other party members would be the main combatants, while the protag's summons would lean more towards being expendable, while also having supportive abilities that would have charge ups/cool downs to use in line with the randomized ones of other Navigators and such.
Also, Social Links between character combinations other than with the protag. Though, to still have these tied into gameplay, part of the protag's power set includes some kind of astral projection, with them offering "advice" to their party members in their Social Links with other people in the form of the standard dialogue choices. This power could also be used for dungeon exploration puzzles, as well as the Navigation party role having more gameplay involved with it in general (you might not even receive the Summoning Charm for the first dungeon, instead focusing on protag's Social Links with party members to to shore up their Persona options). The protag would still account for at least 50% of Social Links pairings, and, obviously, this all goes along with the whole party visiting the Velvet Room as a matter of course again.
Maybe in this context, the protag's own Persona could be the obligatory Mascot character of the game and have the speaking role that the Navigator themselves usually has had. Though, really, most of these ideas have just been in service of wanting to expand the Social Links past the protag without losing a lot of elements that players have come to expect. Fire Emblem has been borrowing hard from Persona, about time for the reverse to be true (without the straight up crossover game).
This time travel idea really can bring on some crackhead ideas
Since P5 was close to Chaos aligned, having Law aligned themed Persona might be cool. Prestigious private high school, white uniform, but there are some real shady shit happening behind the school. Your team member is going down the wrong path, so you bring them out of it and help bring justice.
This basically a repeat on what I said in the previous video but I think it fit better here
Here the my wishlist for persona 6:
-One thing that would be good concept for persona 6 is a dream world. That could be a good way to explored the mind and good surreal imagery. Admit that sound too similar to psychonauts, but I think atlus can do stuff different.
-A part of me also think of a shadow world mixed with the internet/digital stuff, like the show code lyoko. I mean social media does show people’s shadow and stuff.
-Also I would to have a more college setting like in persona 2 eternal punishment, But given persona likes to market to teens, we mostly not going to get it.
The dreamworld shit is Persona 1
I want persona 6 to be dark.
@@ironwraith852 I want it to be so dark, to the point where I can't see anything
@@Kamisuitendo I want everyone to be morally just the worst. No redeemable characters with any good qualities. also everyone is either a murderer, insane or about to die! ALSO ALSO, The main character is a cheating scumbag who flirts with children because he's a debaucherous douchebag. oh wait that last part already kinda happened, whoops.
@@ironwraith852 Yeah I want a Persona 6 where my character is absolute scum
Imagine reliving alot of the events from P4 but some at different perspectives, and more content.
So like the equivalent of what NieR does with its paths?
Sounds like you just want a P4 remake with an alternate path.
Persona 4 Arena has you play out these visual novel story modes through the eyes of the other characters. Though you don't relive any P4 scenes.
You just put the thought in my mind of “persona 4 but it’s all in Sho’s perspective” lol
@@RaspyCh ok but i'm kinda interested in that lmao-
i was kinda weirded out by how he was appearantly stalking us through the entire game so it might be fun to see that from his perspective
Here's something I just came up with; each party member and villain follows similarities to characters in Arthurian lore and have Personas akin to those characters but are instead based off either historical or fictional rulers, kings, tyrants, etc. The main villains will have Personas that also follow suit; hence, the bit about the tyrants.
Yooo that Akihiko persona evolution art is absolutely fire
Didn’t P2 already do time travel, Persona 1’s theme was depression and nihilism, P2’s theme of sorrow, the sins of the past and the idea that people’s pain don’t just magically go away when you get older
Is that Ulala Frost i see in your pfp 👀
I want them to do more deep dives into Jungian Psychology like the OG Persona games.
Ok, hear me out. A Persona game focusing on overcoming repressed trauma. Set in a live-in care facility for teens suffering from repressed trauma, you enter the new shadow realm through hypnosis sessions... and one of the main cast is a now teenage Nanako, suffering from fragmented flashbacks to that time she was kidnapped and thrown in the TV. :p
I’d actually play that game.
I'd play the hell out of that but it'll be a p4 spinoff if nanako is there.
@@AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz There was a time (before Persona 3) when Persona characters could appear in other Persona games without them being spinoffs... oh so long, long ago...
Hell, lets make it WORSE! One of the other character's you find out is oppressing very young memories of waking up... during the dark hour. Terrified every night seeing their parents as coffins and hearing the shadows moving outside. No one believed them, telling them it was a dream... until one night... it just stopped. And they tried to push the memory down *spooky fingers*
Then, about half way through the game, the nameless suited man you *assumed* was the villain that was visiting the hospital and talking to the staff regularly is revealed to be... Ken Amada. A young man working for an organization trying to force open a door into the shadow realm. The patients were selected based on their case history, making the young teens mad that he'd put their lives in danger in the organizations attempt to get ahead of the next big threat.
I should write a fanfic tbh, but I don't got the skill. xD
“Out of all of the characters in Persona 5, Akechi is definitely one of them.”
No no, he’s got a point
The time travel persona team:
You have a disgraced samurai, working to atone. He finds himself in "the void" (a place outside of time) and unlocks his persona. His persona "Kuzenbo" specialises in ice and physical attacks
We have the world war 2 veteran plucked from the middle of a warzone. His persona "howitzer" specialises in incendiary and GUN attacks
The 80's rockstar, taken following a fall from grace. Her persona "apollo" specialises in lightning attacks and healing
Perhaps we have someone from outside of japan join, a European nobleman who lost everything to a criminal. His persona "springheel jack" specialises in curse attacks
Hell, get a freakimg ancient greek soldier. Their persona "Achilles" specialises in Bless and nuke attacks
Finally, a merchant woman from before the Korean war. Her persona "Kumiho" specialises in psi attacks
I like the idea of NG+ in Persona games, gaining an efficiency in how you use your time, imagine having a single month that you repeat twelve times or so, so you can really plan out what you need to get done and prioritize orders to your social links and such as part of the time travel plot.
City pop idol Chan is my new future past waifu.
Rather than palaces or tv world dungeons there could be time rift dungeons themed on certain points in history.
Maybe a reflection of the mindset of the people during that period of time?
I just say the video thumbnail and was like, "Oh yeah I am ready for some new fither shlock"
I want a villain intently studying the effects of Personas on humans. There are other characters that know Personas exist. If the villain finds out and starts running experiments on the people to release their ultimate powers. It would bring back the story evolutions of P2 and P3. But I'd want the villain to be doing it for something in the future, like they foresaw an invasion of angels and gods trying to reset the world to a new image and the villain is desperately trying to find a solution.
If we get a Persona game with timetravel one of the party members has to be from the Shinsengumi like Hajime Saito or Hijikata Toshizo. As a Shinsengumi fanatic I would love the character even if he`s mid af.
My dumb crackhead persona 6 story concept was to have the cast be some kind of space pirate type of guys who literally sail along the sea of souls. Maybe there could be different islands you sail to that act as the dungeons and represent a person.
Sounds like Persona 5 *NEXT!*
It also sounds like NiGHTS Into Dreams or Balan in Wonderworld, and if that’s not done correctly it could easily be a bad story.
I really one have 4 things I want in P6.
Story based awakenings
a less ham-fisted and more subtle theme
less wacky anime scenes like the shit that happens in the bathhouse in 3-5 or the operation babe hunt in P3 or pointless shit like that.
Party members that stay relevant throughout the game and don't get abandoned for the newest member.
I agree with all of that especially the bathhouse scenes. It’s literally the same thing every single time and I really don’t know who finds it funny.
The Bathouse scene will probably return because Japanese humor
@@onewingedren2228 Sigh...Yeah
@@jayyy3820 I enjoy the troupes, it isn’t funny, I don’t care about the fanservice, I just like troupes
Yeah ima have to disagree with you on operation babe hunt. That was actually pretty funny.
For me, I'd like P6 to be emotionally heavy. Since it will(prolly) be green in theme which is most symbolic of life, and opposite of P3's Death. I'd like it if P6 will tackle stuff after those darkest and lowest times. I think that is the time when life will either shine brighter or end up getting swallowed. Growth, acceptance moving forward would be central to the story.
This one is more of a wish but, I'd also want to see characters from the previous persona games make an appearance, not just as cameo but something more than just fan service especially the older ones. I want to see how they have grown over time. Like Jun owning a flower shop with Tatsuya, or Junpei married to Chidori visiting said shop on their anniversary, and just 3 months away from giving birth. And these characters can become social links.
My, this is quite lengthy.
I like the idea of the green representing life but in a way Persona 3 is about life as much as it is death, I believe even in game they state what defines life is the inevitability of death as its conclusion. I don't know how they'd try to make a life based game that doesn't overlap with P3. Maybe love or affection as a theme but that's not really a green thing. I'd be interested in what you were thinking
@Tiberium From Time I get what you mean. The theme of Life easily equates to the theme of Death because they can be considered as one. But the focus, for me, of this Life theme for the Green motif should the the ups and downs of life, they can include people that suffered loss of loved ones too, but the majority of the characters would be suffering from other heavy emotional burden. Characters that experienced abuse, indecent acts, suffers depression and those lost their chance to achieve their dreams because of misfortune or accident. That, for me, is the difference of the theme of Life and Death in these Motif of Green and Blue.
P3's theme is cherishing life knowing that death is inevitable.
On the other hand, my focus on this theme is the choice of being alive, the consequences of living and coping up from these experiences.
(Truthfully, this is just straight from the fan-fiction P6 I hoped to start writing. But since there is a teaser already, I might've just lost my chance anyways)
The time travel concept is really interesting, and if tweaked could work really well as a continuation of Persona 5's cognitive world.
A new cognitive world that's based on the public's perception of history, which shifts and changes over time as ideas and interpretations of the past change. The overarching plot of the game would then be to counter historically inaccurate propaganda by setting right each cognitive era. The inhabitants could be are the souls of historical figures, forced to relive their lives as they're remembered rather than as they actually happened and getting them out of their state of being "cognitive puppets" is how we learn the truth of what happened, allowing us to bring that knowledge into the real world and correct the propaganda. The whole theme being that history is best experienced by reading and primary sources, not simply reading a textbook and taking it at its word.
With the time travel you bascily described chrono trigger lol
The best way I’ve seen for JRPGs to show interactions between the party members is the way that Fire Emblem does their supports. I think that if persona somehow had those, there would be more characterization between characters.
man, akechi was quite the goofy little barnacle.
I like the idea of characters hanging out together on their own time. I think they could make it a game mechanic as well. For instance, on certain days you can see two or more characters about to do something and you have the option to join in. For instance, Ryuji is at the Batting cage with Ann and Makoto. If you join them, you can get a boost to all of their S Links, but you cannot advance their s link because they are busy doing a group hang.
Another thing I would be interested in is staying out really late. That would give an extra activity in that day, but as a trade-off you could have it be that you oversleep and end up with detention after school and lose that time slot. This would allow for different activities and could make you have to decide who you hang out with. That could also be a way of introducing the 'bad' influences, as you have to stay out way too late and affect your studies in order to advance their link.
One great idea for persona 6:
Your social links/confidants/whatever they're called
You can, on certain days, find them hanging around with each other, and if you want, you can hang out with both of them for a few social link points towards them both
For example (gonna use p4 characters for this):
Say you walk down thw street snd see chie and yukiko talking. they might offer you to come along to wherever they're going
The social pairings will be limited in their variation, but they'd be people who could realistically be seen to hang out together, and the activity would be something fitting for the character
Maybe spending time with Shinya and Ryuji at the arcade?
Some character pair activities might even improve social stats.
From the thumbnail I was thinking more along the lines that Persona 6 time travel could be a love letter to the entire Persona franchise considering it'll launch right after the 25th anniversary. Having the 6 cast go back in time meeeting older casts in their time periods fixing anomalies or chasing someone who's hunting other wildcards. There would then be a vast amount of fanservice.
So persona Q and Q2?
I want Persona 6 to give me a REAL character as a protagonist. A protagonist with a real personality
So you want yourself
But all persona games have a real character as a protagonist.
honestly felt that Personas 4 theme was more that no matter how temporary, happiness is significant and that the small things matter and that should empower you to not get comfortable and always go after the truth no matter if it ends the journey.
So yeh to me its the journey with a definitive end but that does not change its value I guess.
Persona 6 will probably have something about losing control as the main thing, due to help geopolitical mechanisms are really going on right now. Most people feel like being lost control their lives.
It's practically existential horror for most people.
For P6 I would want characters brought back. It would be sick to have Junpei as a baseball coach as an example. It could potentially even link P3 and SEES with P6. Even if Junpei is oblivious to the persona shenanigans going on, it would still be great to have that repeated character.
With your point of more group independence, even just having scenes of the party members going to school together without the MC being present would still be an improvement.
I completely agree with the return of story based persona evolutions, Akihiko's evolution really hit hard. I really hope that Atlus brings that back even for 1 or 2 characters since the story based evolutions in P3 were all excellent and very emotional.
I really hope that the MC gets more voice scenes. It was weird in P5 when you oppose cognitive kamoshida where joker says something to prevent Ryuji's execution but comes out as 'eugh'. It really lessened my immersion and the impact that joker's awakening has.
What I want
1. A team of Persona users opposed to yours
2. Have the God final boss be your friend
3. You yourself are the traitor
4. A fully voiced protagonist
5. Have a party member be your family member
6. A preschool cast
I think that last one would be pretty Fun! You've had young members and confidants before, but not a party that is solely comprised of Toddlers!
if done correctly, being the traitor would be one of the biggest twists ever. would be difficult to put into the game tho
@@MilkJugA_ It's a pretty whacky idea. I don't know how it'd work out
Those are pretty cool ideas. I don’t know how to feel about 4 and 6
all of the other Ideas are great too! I just liked the last one the most, because it was funny to me.
Can we get a twist villain that isn’t obvious like Goro? There are people who might not catch on to him being the traitor, but it would be nice to be genuinely surprised by a heel turn
Tbh Akechi being the traitor wasn't the twist. The Phantom Thieves knowing beforehand and acting accordingly was the twist. And I think that was handled pretty well
The trust villain was pretty obviously meant to be Yaldy, yeah, to add on to to the other guy. And he generally seemed to be FAR more of a surprise to people then good ol' Goro ever was.
I gotta know what you would prefer: random dungeons, like Tartarus, Mementos, or The TV World, OR Palace style dungeons.
A bit of both tbh
One randomized dungeon you can grind on but story dungeons being designed is the optimal setup.
But they have to make an actual good random dungeon, tartarus and mementos are so bad it hurts
@@AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz That's a fair take. And yeah, Tartarus and Mementos are very boring... If Tartarus didn't have the fatigue mechanics that make it a resource management dungeon, i think I would truly hate it. Luckily that saved it. And Mementos is less awful with Ryuji's instakill... Still, I don't love it.
@@hollyfindlay4051 portable made tartarus a lot better too, with the random pitch black floors and people to save inside.
@@AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz Yeah. Portable did a lot of cool shit.
Imagine using your Apple watch to go back in time
Or to summon your persona hahahaha
@@cosmicboy603 Even better!
@@Jontage99 You think so?
@@cosmicboy603 Yes lol
"Featuring my Persona Time Travel Concept"
Well, this will be interesting.
Edit: I expected it to be crazier, but now I'm very intrigued.
If Oda Nobunaga's a social link his boi Yasuke better be a party member.
I hope persona 6 theme is a co-worker, businessman, and doctor, i'll be upsite if they bring back highschool theme again
17:12 can you imagine a persona game that predominantly makes city pop songs and remixes. Omg
Im not gonna lie that last idea gave me incredible Fate Grand Order vibes with the idea of time travel and interacting with the past. I love it
The group independence thing and story evolutions is totally what I want
It’s why p3 is my fav
P3 characters live in a dorm and are part of a pre established organization so they kinda have to work together but, I feel they are closer as people than most of the characters in 4 and 5
i really love how they kinda just feel like they interact out of obligation at first but as time passes by you can just see them becoming actual friends- idk it just feels more real to me, i suppose?
I wish for a male lovers Arcana, it would be so interesting.
gay gay homosexual gay
Also to break the stereotype of Lovers being a romance arcana
yeah and I want the death arcana social link to be a serial killer
Yo, I kind of hope they use Celtic myths for the next main character Personas.
Lugh Lamhfada, Dagda, The Morrigan, Mananan Mac Lir, Brigit, Balor Béimnech...
Not sure how they'd justify it, but it'd be sick to see that stuff happen.
Imagine the Velvet attendant being an Adult lavenza, who's just an odd mixture of elizabeth [Caronline] and Margaret [Justine]
This is my crackhead idea for the series: I hope that characters from other games have a place in the plot since it’s one shared universe. And I’m not talking about spin-off series bullshit. I always thought it was weird that like, Mitsuru, someone who is very rich and is shown to still be investigating the meta verse in persona 4 arena, didn’t realize that the mental shut down cases were likely a result of something in the meta verse, and in turn try to do something about it. I thought it would be cool if in like persona 5, she starts doing her own investigation into the mental shutdowns, and maybe even pieces together who the phantom thieves are based on their relations to the palace rulers and confronts them about it, perhaps even helping them in the story. So if something as large of a scale happens in p6, it would be sick if the phantom thieves, sees, and maybe even certain members of the investigation team make an appearance and try to help stop whatever the big threat is. It would make the game feel higher stakes and allow fan favorites to be worked into the story, allowing us to see them as adults (covering the “I want adults in persona” crowd while still having the main party be high schoolers).
Maybe Yosuke is running Junes now, and because he is a manager at a Junes near wherever p6 is set, he gets suspicious of the kid who is buying an excess of energy drinks (which could be SP items or whatever) and maybe even becomes one of the confidants, helping them solve things. Maybe Makoto is a police officer now, and has to figure out how to get people committing crimes in the meta verse arrested in real life with the help of the new party. This ones goofy, but what if Chie runs a Kung-fu dojo or something silly like that and teaches you moves that buff your physical attacks or something.
I think it would be sick as hell and could give these characters more depth. They don’t even have to be important, even if one character from p3, p4, and p5 are a confidant, that would be amazing. Just to see where they are now and if they still adventure in the meta verse. It would be the good kind of fan service, especially if their presence makes sense plot wise, which again, in a lot of cases such as with mitsuru or makoto, it would.
As you were talking about the time travel concepts, one popped up in my mind: game starts with usual Persona affair, new student, finds way to another world with shadows, blah blah. But, this other world is actually just Earth exactly one year in the future. Maybe the party can only travel in intervals of one year, and the combat all takes place in the demon infested hellscape of their present plus one year, trying to find hints on how to stop this apocalypse. As they get closer and closer, things get tense and tense as they are knowingly on a one year clock throughout the game. I think that would be neat.
I would like to see the protagonist be in college for once. Work towards renting an apartment or buddy up with your confidants to work towards buying a house. I ask for that because it seems more likely than having what would be a Shin Megami Tensei protagonist that just killed his best friends walk through a terminal and end up in If Universe which spawned Persona as he/she discovers friendship and normality.
Man i would love this as well but it doesn't seem likely due to atlus' target market being primarily teens
I think the time travel idea would be interesting to explore because of the moral consequences you have to think about and ultimately realizing that even though you can prevent one tragedy another maybe even bigger one will occur. We will never live in a perfect and peaceful world. There is a lot of room for personal growth and coming to term with ones past and imperfections. However it’ll be hard to explain without plotholes because time travel usually ends in paradoxes.
I’d love for persona 6 to focus again on mental health and social isolation because these topics are still very relevant and with persona 5 they did a great job at portraying the effects and in royal they also showed how helpful counseling and therapy can be even for people who are not showing symptoms. I love the persona series for tackling social problems almost everyone can relate to: death, loneliness, feeling left out, depression, pressure to succeed, guilt, feeling inadequate etc.
Gameplay wise I really liked the split of dungeon progression and leveling and I want it to return in p6 + the palace riddles were fun!
One thing that I would really enjoy would be the ability to pair up people and you could see unique interactions by these people dating. I feel like there are a lot of either obvious or subtle signs of characters that are interested in one in other in various ways, seeing them actually get together could lead to really fun situations.
Here's my idea about upgrading the confidant system:
So, the evolution of Personas during certain points of the story, but what if the evolution could be changed depending of your relationship with the characters?
Hear me out, at certain points of the confidant storylines you'll get questions or have to take decisions that will change how the confidant's persona evolution will go as well as some aspects of their personality. Also, what if you could "wear" the other personas of the arcanas instead of using them, like to stick with the idea of this is a part of you which you cannot just shift and replace BUT you can change certain aspects of it by "masking" them.
I feel like persona 5’s theme was more so to be true to/not be ashamed of who you are then the thing Morgana says. Every party member either is exiled/ is judged for being themselves or are actively trying to suppress themselves for the sake of others, and the super-hero aesthetic fits perfectly well when they decide to fully embrace who they want to be. I think the difference is that the villains didn’t really have anything to do with that, because they were just shitty people you had to stop (kind of like how most of a superheroes villains don’t necessarily directly oppose their ideology), unlike in persona 4 or the third semester. I just found a lot of comfort and relatability in the fact that the thieves found each other because they didn’t want to hide anything about themselves, and just that they are so confident in who they are. That’s the theme I got out of it though, I just love everything about p5.
Anyway, since this is supposed to a persona 6 wishlist video, I just hope that the personas of the party members fit both the characters story and the story of the myth they are based on. I love when the characters function as a sort of retelling of the myth but in a modern context (like with Ryuji having Saiten Taisei or Ann having Carmen), so I hope there’s more of that in p6. I also hope the game has just as much style as p5. It doesn’t have to have the same tone or story set up, but the style and creativity put into things as simple as the menus really made the game feel special.
Your description of time traveling persona game made me realize something...
I NEED IT.
I always thought a cool idea for a Q3 would be all 5 generations of Persona users coming together to fight Nyarlothep with Philemon
I’d like to add something to the time travel idea
what if the game takes place in one month and at the end of it time loops back to the begining of the month and the MC must try to find out what’s causing the time loop and stop it
Yooo I had an idea just like this! And, like, what if weirdly impossible things start happening like snow during the summer, but when the loop's fixed the anomalies are forgotten by everyone else.
Weirdly enough Group Independence, Meaningful Theme, Crackhead time Travel idea (sorta). has been taken by Persona Q series
i just want to see happiness for tatsuya
One thing I would see P6 is it will take place after the P2IS timeline where gain the ability to switch to another timeline which will be the P2EP timeline. There is a but-for using this ability to go between timelines. This cause both timelines to merge.
The time travel seems like a lovely concept for a Persona 12 where you could access the different time periods of each of the persona games through the hours of a clock accessible from the floor of the Velvet room now that would be cool
about the villain part I think maruki p5 is like s tier villain
I really hope that in P6 the wildcard shit gets done away with since not only would it make the other party members more customizable but also can lead into the jungian psych that the older games really leaned into
Honestly i would rather if they did something like in PQ and not just straight up replace their persona
Have a Link with a Yakuza Clan Member or a Mafia Leader best Confidant of Persona 6/Whatever. How about a much more Grey moral compass on the Protag like you have to take down a hero and a villain?
Chrono Trigger did the 'across all of time' party system. Amazing game. There's a lot of room for 'fish out of water' stories with a cast that comes from different time periods, like how Capatain America struggled to get used to modern society when he was unfrozen.
You could also make it like the TVA in Loki, going through space and time to deal with people who are abusing the game's equivalent of the metaverse. Essentially, they would be tasked with fighting people who create REALLY big problems for the timeline.
I'd like to see a connection to the previous games, maybe nanako from 4 is a social link/team mate, maybe a character from 1 or 2 is one of your teachers, or maybe you go to previous locations (like in p4) maybe LeBlanc and references to the phantom thieves.
My Theory for Persona 6 is has something to do with time travel The Village want to erase the wildcards from existence
If I had to guess we're getting some kind of collection product. Maybe rereleases of every previous Persona game on switch/ps4/pc etc. Or perhaps some crossover game akin to Persona Q. But if Persona 6 is revealed I hope it has everything in this video
I feel like a time travel idea would turn into the moral battle of living in the moment vs living in the past. you as the protagonist would be living your life for the present by ironically hanging out with people from the past who are hung up on their failures and have a desire to fix their mistakes. you will teach them to live for today, while your rival is keen on rewriting history. then something about the god of time wanting to erase all of history or something at the end.
I totally agree with your sentiments about story-based Persona evolutions. For me, Junpei's Persona evolution was the most hype shit. It starts off with him reuniting with Chidori, then the rest of Strega shows up and Takaya shoots Junpei. When I saw that my first thought was "ah shit, it's happening again." But it gets followed up with the incredible tear jerker of Chidori giving up her own life to revive him. And finally Junpei fuses his own Persona with Chidori's. Fusions are typically carried out by either Igor or the Velvet Room Attendants but here Junpei is so consumed by righteous fury, anger, sadness, loss, and everything that he does it himself and blasts Strega with the fires of hell. A real standout scene imo.