Debunking Araki Forgot: Part 4 - Diamond Is Unbreakable
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- Опубліковано 26 лис 2024
- Debunking common misconceptions in Part 4.
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I'm just imagining if josuke was able to reattach all of Kira's nails and then Kira has 50 foot nails
You're right that it would do that. But please, shut up. I've seen too much disgusting toe scenes in JoJo.
Root The Unknown
That was honestly the main problem my mind had with that theory lol.
Yeah, it's just dumb story telling nothing more
@@olavisalomaa No it's not. The video already explained why that wouldn't happen.
@H M that or never watched/read jojo
If only I had been there to explain the situation whenever something was confusing.
Speedwagon backstory OVA when
Kakyoin is already doing that but with memes
I'd like this but I want to keep it 500
Bruh he even explains things in eyes of heaven
So when you coming back to the story? Part 9?
Bro isn't it weird how Josuke looks like the guy he's trying to look like???
That's.... Might be the truest comment i've Seen ever.
where likes?
Yay I’m ur 300th like
Star Finger could've fixed that
he literally just admired the guy that saved his life, nothing weird about it
One thing I like about DIU is we see Stands being used for mundane things. Shigechi uses Harvest to collect loose change, Tonio uses Pearl Jam for his restaurant and Aya has Cinderella for her salon.
The last 2 were made for hat purpose, but even then its chills eeing Joskue use CD to get coffee faster
Which is probably what stands would be used for irl tbh. Like if I had Crazy Diamond, I would just open up an instant repair shop to get free money for basically no work
It helps that part 4 isn’t as combat focused as part 3.
Jotaro has Star Plat open doors for him like a gangster
@Christina Azarian mmm yummy *pukes up digistive track, loses all dead skin, loses bald spots, loses cancer i didnt know i had*
Remember when Araki forgot how to kill a God so he just gave speedwagon a heart attack.
Speedwagon just left his human body to evolve as a god
Pancho Figueroa You know the short story The Egg? Speedwagon is just our final life before ascension to godhood.
yes
Brennan Ruiz ah yes an intellectual
Legend say
The universe could barely handle speedwagon existence
Thus he never reproduced since the outcome of the offspring of speedwagon can put the rule of nature off balance
Remember when Jotaro came to Morioh to inform Josuke that he'll get a third of Joseph's inherintace when he dies yet Joseph never dies and outlived basically everyone?
Joseph is just a troll.
I mean they never really say he doesn’t die. He could be alive or dead. As much as I would want him to live forever he is probably dead by part 6
Araki has confirmed johseph is still alive up to part 6.
Joseph will never die because the plotline does not progress. At least I do not expect future parts to return to the original continuity,
Pretty sure his heritage isn’t needed anymore after part 6
I think it's pretty obvious Shizuka could have appeared in all the parts post-part 4.
I mean, she *is* invisible.
Ahh you have learnd well
Uh she did appear
Only if she doesnt have clothes on. Soo technally she could be in part 6, only fully nude.
@@mrunknown8335 that's not true because she could just turn her clothes invisible
and even then, we don't know what she looks like so she could've shown up as an extra lol
Just realized that Josukes power to "fix others and not himself" is a direct correlation to how, and by who, he was saved. The delinquent couldn't fix himself or his situation, but could certainly fix the problem of tires stuck in the snow.
Could that have determined crazy diamond’s ability?
Could that be crazy diamond 😐
@@oom-7845 Its certainly possible! Perhaps he picked up on my discovery at a young age after giving it some thought, thereby influencing his spirit and therefore his stand, but they never really touched on this after the fact so it's hard to tell.
same man
@@ItWatchesWithoutEyes you are pretty much right, the delinquent became a role model to Josuke, so it wouldn’t surprise me if because the delinquent saved him, it caused him to be selfless to others
Araki forgot how to draw massively muscled mountainous men so switched to lean and toned fashion models.
Oh my fucking god, stop it's not funny.
@@SGR403 chill
@@SGR403 chill man
@@SGR403 oh my fucking god stop, you recycle your hate more than 90% of jojo fans recycle their jokes
Wompa Stompa No he just switched to make fashion
It’s actually a pretty simple answer as to who saved josuke. Since koichi is telling us the story about josuke being saved by someone with the same hairstyle, he just imagines the guy would look like josuke. The story is based of what koichi believes it would have looked like.
Oh yeah! That makes so much sense! Thank you for this elaboration
William Metcalf No problem man! It’s really easy to overlook such a simple answer sometimes lol.
Greg Martinez Yeah man, a lot of people seem to forget Koichi is telling the story, and he associates Josuke’s hairstyle with Josuke. Because of that, he modeled the person that save Josuke after, y’know, Josuke. It’s not that hard to understand, but people sometimes look into things too much.
@@gregmartinez6426 But what about the part he says they searched for news about the boy and no one even knew about his existence? By the way it is told the existence of this boy is only recognized by Josuke's mother and him, no one else knows about him even though he was from the same school that Josuke studies now.
@@lucasjm7378 actually there's another video on this topic that analyzes the boy's uniform and proves that he goes to another school using uniform color and other things like that. And how the number of pins the guy has on indicates he'd be older than Josuke was even during part 4.
Don't forget that Japanese students have pins on their uniforms which tells what year they're in, Josuke just started High school, while the stranger has a pin that signifies he's in the third year
King Kaid damn thats new knowledge for me
King Kaid never knew that thanks for that new lesson
Simple, Ghost Kira finds Josuke, suddenly uses the powers of killer queen's BTD and the spin (he just learned it) and sends Josuke back in time.
It still could have been him from later in time, especially with characters coming back in later parts. Plus, the part may have lasted way longer if araki wanted to
@@kylefreeburg9353 why.
Shizuka Jostar IS in later parts, you're all just forgetting what her stand ability is
Lamo
You had us in the first part ngl
@@AA-bj1bu i get ur joke
yeah, how do you think the arrow eneded up in giorno's hands? or emporio got WR disc? it was shizuka all along.
Lol
Josuke was saved by a man that he styles himself after. Josuke's design is based off of Prince. Prince saved Josuke confirmed.
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Seriously though, what's a more heartwarming story? Josuke saving his own life via convoluted timey-wimey shenanigans, or a good samaritan saving the life of a complete stranger, who later decided to model his life based on his example?
Timmy Reobed
Yeah that why Araki change it, time travel is too complicated for him
Same as Giorno! A stranger/mafia changed his life after Giorno saved him from the other gangsters
Also, if josuke had really gone back in time to save himself and had that hairstyle, then how did the first ever josuke of the timeline get his own hairstyle?
@@junyibiolasion674 The Bootstrap paradox...
@@sammysaito529 it's not time travel(imo)
Why didn’t Jotaro use Star Platinum’s air suck ability when writing his starfish thesis?
Cause Araki forgot
why would Araki think of that, though
explain.
*Visible Confusion*
dude.
gross
I always thought that Josuke fixed the bullies face incorrectly to spite him.
Just a big “Fuck you for insulting my hair”
@@yorozora exactly
Yeah, I think that was kind of the point. Like he never really tried to fix it accurately
Yeah I don't understand how people thought that he wasn't trying to intentionally do it
He made him look like the turtle
Josuke literally said that he modeled his look after the man who saved him. No shit they look the same. I don’t know how people can still be confused about this.
I don't think its possible for Josuke to copy his face tho, seeing as how crazy Diamond doesn't work on the user
Aaron Of Doom
I don't have a problem with them dress the same but they look IDENTICAL, like facial, and body structure, everything, did josuke call in Cinderella to make his face the same or is it just a "Araki forget" and by Araki forgot I mean "set up plot point that doesn't goes anywhere like he usually does"
Huy Max There are two possible explanations for that.
1. Araki sometimes draws his characters with the same faces. It was especially noticeable at the end of part 7.
2. The backstory is being told by Koichi to Okuyasu. And since Koichi has never seen the man before, he may have just inserted Josuke’s look into him.
Aaron Of Doom
The second one is pretty dumb, the first one is an aright expiation because Araki does sometimes have same face syndrome but come on, it's pretty obvious, with bite the dust reversing time, the face look exactly the same, the guy just happened to be at the right place at the right time to save josuke even though there's literally not a single other person in sights, it pretty clear that Araki intend to make josuke save himself but then he didn't like it or change of plan or time travel is too confusing for him or whatever, so he never decided to go forward with the plot point he set up. The reason why there's "araki forget" is because Araki doesn't like it and want to change it so he did it, sometimes it's a good thing because Araki can be extremely flexible with jojo so you don't need to cover Araki ass everytime he change something
Aaron Of Doom holy shit that koichi explanation makes a ton of sense considering koichi simply knows he copied the guy. So he naturally would insert Josukes appearance to stand in for the actual guy koichi has no memory of
Bruh, The Josuke Savior one is so easy to solve, it’s literally just Josuke dressing up like the dude
Mhm, how did he remember every single detail about the man then?
Even the earrings
Костя Тихонов
Dude, look at Josuke and then look at the man, they’re outfits are not the same. The only thing that Josuke took inspiration from was the hair. It took place in Japan, and we clearly see many students wearing that same outfit, the man didn’t even have the same accessories
@@stimcc9890 And even then it got sprinkles of unreliable narrator, since it's a memory from when he was a kid, and Koichi was telling the story
Hudag
Hey! Koichi *is* a reliable guy, Jotaro said so! But jokes aside, yes
nah. araki just decided to not fuck with tine travel at some point and left it at that. but the whole set up points heavily towards the time travel plot point. everything plays way too well. its just a discarded idea
Remember when araki forgot to age
You mean in 84bc?
I thought it was 83 bc
Probably the Best joke in the comment section...
@@gonzaloegonzalez8106 but way too under-rated
you guys are aging?
Another explanation for the mysterious delinquent that saved Josuke: I haven't read the manga, but in the anime, Koichi is narrating the story to Okuyasu. Since Koichi is going off of second-hand information from Josuke and neither Josuke or Koichi know what the man really looked like other than his hair, Koichi subconsciously inserts Josuke into that scene as a placeholder.
Honestly that makes a lot of sense
@Damien Pratt Josuke probably said that he had wounds, dumbass
@Damien Pratt I'm pretty sure it was mentioned that the delinquent was injured, just not how or where
@Damien Pratt Even if it wasn't mentioned, at the very least he knew he was a delinquent, so I could imagine that he might imagine he was in a fight.
Thats a pretty cool explanation. since the story is coming from koichi, koichi used the only person he knows with that hairstyle, wich is Josuke himself. I forgot it was Koichi who told the story.
As time goes on, I’ve realized more and more about how it would literally make no thematic sense to have Josuke save himself. The entire main idea of Part 4 is how looks are deceiving, and that people that look bad can actually be good. If it was really Josuke that saved him all those years ago and inspired him to be the person he is today, it just undercuts the entire message.
Exactly
Pikaman20008
I like the notion of some random delinquent just being a good person and stepping in to save a mom and her sick child from being stuck in a blizzard.
Codes the Otaku yeah, so do I. It’s much more emotionally effective
Seriously, It's his own stand's weakness. People actually need JoJo's to be less subtle for them.
I mean I thought it was going to be a time loop thing too. I don't know if I could call it disappointment when it wasn't, but it sure felt like it was a setup for a plot later. Not everything HAS to be connected I guess but still.
imagine Hayato just went to a school and they asked about the class's parents for show and tell. literally everyone DEAD
Some kid: hey hayato my dad is stronger than yours
Hayato: Oh yea? Well my dad- *death*
@@adamennaqui7413 Some kid: My dad is stronger than yours
Hayato: My "dad" can rewind time, blow shit up and never leave a trace of it *AND* he has an unstoppable tank on his hand
@@dailydoseofoofs5721 makes you wonder why Hayato wanted Kira gone “I live you alone and you give me a stand and leave me alone”
@@Knight_Dragon Proof why Hayato isn't as smart as we make him out to be
@@Knight_Dragon he... he's a child. He's scared and convinced kira will eventually kill him and his mother anyways. He doesn't have the kira yoshikage copy pasta like we do, he doesn't know kira is trying to be discreet. To him, this man took his father's identity and flips his whole world upside down with weird time bomb bullshit.
Shizuka was in Stone Ocean, we just couldn't see her
I love this comment
Mayhapse
No Shizuka goes to Hero School
@@lenfent i thought she married a time traveler dweeb with glasses
Nah she joined mha school
I don’t understand why people keep bringing up Jotaro saying that no stand can bring back the dead. This is Jotaro, a character within the universe and with limited knowledge, making a declaration. Even if Araki were to introduce a stand that can bring back the dead, it wouldn’t mean he forgot about it or is contradicting himself, it would mean that Jotaro himself was wrong about his declaration
People still use that same thing that Jotaro said about Civil War from part 7 even though it's literally a completely fucking different universe.
mostly because it's funny considering he brought his grandpa back from the dead even though joseph lost all his blood and his ghost flew into the sky
it's less araki forgot and more "jotaro you literally brought someone back from the dead that one time"
@mcbuttmaster4242 his literal ghost appeared and floated off to Heaven
@mcbuttmaster4242 generally your ghost doesn't pop out and float off to heaven unless you are, in fact, super dead
and it wasn't some kind of hallucination, jotaro literally spoke to it
@mcbuttmaster4242 it wasn't a hallucination, we saw that exact same thing happen with iggy, avdol, and later bruno
I will never understand the confusion with this "Josuke saving Josuke", it's Koichi telling the story, and even he says "at my point of view" or something like that, and since he didn''t have any idea how the guy was, he imagined Josuke.
THANK YOU! Fuck I’ve been saying this for so long!
Nah, they arent confused about the fact that he looks like josuke.
They are now confused because had wounds.
Next they will be confused because he is seem breathing
Then they will be confused because he wad alive.
And then because he was a fcking human Bean.
@@lok4890 Ahh yes Human Bean my favourite kind of beans
Well, I know it's from koichis point of view, but I think the scene itself is real. The only thing that is from koichis point of view is him telling us what happened. But I might be wrong I dunno.
@@Masked_Vigilant3 exactly
Defibrillators don't restart hearts, what Jotaro was doing is called a "cardiac massage"
we're talking about movie defibs :)
im not even sure if im doing it right...
The scarier thing about that is how was Star Platinum just allowed to grab Joseph’s heart? With how fast precise and strong Star Platinum is he could literally grab your heart and burst it before you even notice. To make it worse he could stop time and grab your heart without you even realizing.
@@Daboy804 interesting point man. Does that mean he can just kill Kira and Puchi without oraora thing?
Rafif ED he could... but then where would the anticipation come from? Or the sheer suffering Jotaro’s enemies will endure during the “OraOra” moments?
"But he is drawn much shorter than his canonical height"
*Koichi had never seen such bullshit before*
Sdrsrt
Koichi short lol.
@@milestone1719 His art size is 3’3 but he’s supposedly 5 feet…
Nobody talking about the fact Bill Cypher made this comment
@@ReadThisIfYourG3y holy shit
Honestly, when you can flick a bullet as fast as a gun and stop the damn time, why the hell would you ever use star finger?
On jolynes mom
@@joshgroban5291 Touché
@@joshgroban5291 on polnareff
I can stop time and catch bullets point blank, but yeah let’s extend my fingers for absolutely nothing. -nobody
Looking at the two Manga scenes, I don't even think Star Finger actually gives much more range, if any, than Star Platinum's normal 1 to 2 meters(the use vs. Anubis was anime only).
It's only utility is being used when Jotaro is trapped and can't just have Star Platinum attack normally. People keep acting like Star Finger is a super powerful ranged attack but it's really not, compared to the normal Ora Ora, it's pretty weak, it looks like it doesn't grant that much of a range boost-if it does at all and it's only situational useful. I think it's anime appearances have made it seem powerful than it is.
I blame the anime for the "Josuke saving himself" misconception. The manga had the delinquent wear a generic school uniform while Josuke's is heavily stylized. In the anime, they wear the same exact thing, minus the pins on the delinquent.
@Ciaran Joestar In the manga, he wears a distinctly different uniform from Josuke.
@Ciaran Joestar So it's the Anime's fault that people think it's Josuke because the gut looks nothing like him in the manga. That's literally what I said.
Ciaran Joestar why are you arguing the anime when the comment literally said it’s the MANGA
I mean, if you look at the Savior in the anime, his uniform is closed, which we’ve never seen from Josuke (he always had the heart-shaped opening on his chest). I’d say the issue lies in how the face was drawn. If a couple of facial features were changed to be more distinct from Josuke, it would probably be less of an issue.
@@molberding5 That's probably done so it can indicate it is Josuke's hero.
It's rare but not uncommon for mangaka's to draw their protag's heroes similarly to the protagonist. A form of bounding, as you may. (E.g Minato > Naruto > Boruto)
all good but, remember when Araki forgot how to age?
Do you think that's why he draws his characters looking younger and twinkier in later parts where they are older?
@@NoNoNah306 no, he means that, along history, there have been people who looked exactly like Araki, leading people to believe, jokingly, he's actually immortal
@@magead Yeah I get that joke, and that just generally the guy looks like he did years ago. My joke was that because he is an immortal that's why he draws Jotaro looking younger now than he was in part 3.
Arcangel hermetica him, or his characters?
@@jabezmanch1323 both
People: Araki only forgets and never explains nothing!
Araki: *Explains*
People: You liar!Your plan was another but you forgot!
do i have to calculate a century long muda, dora and ora fest
@@mithmoonwalker Muda,Dora,Ari,Hora,Ora,Vola
No, people's problem is that Araki seeds plot points that he never resolves, akin to the "if there's a gun in the scene, it has to go off before it ends" rule. It just reeks of shitty writing.
@@singami465 then explain the mikitaka situation. His whole character is supposed to be "is he an alien or stand user?" Some people say that's an araki forgot moment since he never revealed mikitaka's actual identity, which is bullshit. If people really think that's an araki forgot moment, then they are missing the whole point of mikitaka.
@@kek-senpai243 Good job picking one example, which is clearly meant to be a joke from the start. A character looking 90% like Josuke and bleeding is a completely different thing. You cannot expect your audience to go "oh yeah, that's because he's a delinquent, he just walks around in the middle of a snowstorm with fresh blood on his face".
16:05 Kira also mentions to Hayato that it was his 4th time going through Bites the Dust even though we only see 3 times in the story, adding on to the theory that the first time was written off as a dream
Bro, finally, I found someone with the same idea
That would be a normal mistake
use star finger on a child thus fingering the child
or giving the child "the finger"
It shocked me when I learned that people actually thought Josuke went back in time to save himself, I always thought of that as some random dude, like multiple people can have the same hairstyle??
That Josuke going back in time theory has so many flaws as well.
If Josuke from the future saves 4 year old Josuke, how did Josuke survive in the first place to save himself?
If you get sent back in time by Bites The Dust, your whole body doesn’t go back in time. It’s just your mind going back in time to your body at that tims. It’s like a time leap machine from Steins;Gate.
Why would Kira even send Josuke back in time 12 years? There’s no reason to do that.
@@futurized_ Also, BtD just sents you ONE HOUR back in time, not a WHOLE year.
Also the fact that the delinquent's outfit isn't the same, specifically the pins on his jacket. Like, Araki had been drawing Josuke's outfit consistently for ~50 chapters, and people think still think the delinquent is Josuke despite the obvious inconsistencies.
I mean, EVEN OKUYASU has THE SAME HAIRSTYLE as JOSUKE. Why not psy attention to, i dunno, little details? (Im in ur side btw)
@@GustavsMauler yep delinquent's outfit is a generic uniform, so even more telling
Jojo fans: OMG WHY DID THIS MINOR CHARACTER WENT AWAY IN PART 3 ARAKI FORGOT
*Minor characters reappearing in part 4*
Jojo fans: OMG WHY DO THOSE NONSIGNIFICANT CHARACTERS KEEP COMING BACK REEEEEEE
Araki: "Wait this whole operation was your idea"
Its so stupid that people think if a
character isn't in every episode then it must mean Araki forgot. Characters that have served their purpose have no need to continue being part if the story but jojo fans can't accept that apparently.
@@shoobzy3431 But there are actual times where he forgets a character- And yes I do agree that its stupid when we think a character is fogotten. I agree with you but I'd also like to point that out
@@dailydoseofoofs5721 Like who for instance?
@@Xardas742 Shizuka-though I think it just further proves your point. So I'm probabily wrong
I don’t know why people go on about Star Finger so much (other than joking about it of course). It’s honestly kinda stupid and it’s just way easier for Jotaro to punch something than aggressively poke it.
Yeah alright but why didn't Naruto shove his fingers up Sasuke's asshole during their final fight
Yeah like, in every fucking game in which they create a star platinum move set, Star Finger is there
W H y? He uses it twice. And it's implied he needs to concentrate all of his stand's energy into his two fingers, making it basically useless in any other way.
@@thnkng because thats how anime fighting games work, they have to gather as much as references as they can
No matter how useless it is, its part of jotaro's moveset, and since a lot of people seems to complain about it, that means that is famous enough
It makes sense for Star Finger to be brought up, as it is estimated to work up to 6 meters, being a ok medium ranged attack. It's more reasonable for it to just have been useless however, as unless Jotaro is physically unable to use his fists, it's not a good attack at all, and would cause more risk for Jotaro than would be necessary.
He used Star Finger because he was restrained. That's literally it. It's not like he would need to use it again when he could just close the distance and boom ora ora
Imagine living the rest of your life as a fucking book, that's legit terrifying
Or a rock
Or just kinda... not existing
Eventually, he stopped thinking.
Can't play poker
They'll read you like a book.
Kill me
@@Kwasmo How about an applause for that perfect joke.
someone once gave the most simple answer about the guy who saved baby Josuke:
he looked like Josuke because Koichi is the one who's telling the story about why Josuke has that kind of hairstyle and, since Koichi doesn't know how the guy looked, he simply imagined him as Josuke.
naisaShip exactly. He even outright SAYS it! “This is an interpretation of what I believe happened so it might not be entirely accurate.”
THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE WILLFULLY IGNORING WHEN KOICHI SAYS THAT BOTH IN THE ANIME AND THE MANGA IJUST A:LKFJG:LADNG:LSNFKLNAD:OIGJFQOEWIJTF:GOWIRHgoiWEGSV
Or that he looks like josuke because josuke tries to look like him
Why people can't acept that its actually the reverse. Josuke copied him hence they look similar.
brilliant
Without a doubt, Part 4 is one of my favorite parts. The writing, characters, setting, everything was just right for me. Especially Kira as a villain. Still a little sad that an ambulance finished him off, but it just adds to the whole comedic aspect of it.
I think the ambulance finishing off Kira is a metaphor. We can see the ambulance as Morio-cho, the city which Kira has wounded all those years. At the end, the city gave him the final blow, along side with all the other characters, finally freeing itself from that evil. You could also think it as just fate: Kira always relied and talked about fate, fate giving him a last chance whenever he was in extreme danger. Well, that last time fate ended his life instead.
@@Jomike_Joestar Not only that fate didn't favor him this time, but fate was making him success, and fate ended him like that, it was written, and is a good way to show that what fate easily gives you, fate can also easily take from you
Ali Hadi Babar easily. It’s so fitting
I see you again
How are you everywhere?
I’m loving this entire series, especially considering that most “Araki forgot” moments are usually easy to explain. Whether it’s just a translation error or something flat out said, it’s usually ignored for reddit gold
r/ShitPostCrusaders is filled with these types of people, unfortunately.
reddit is cancer
Ironclad tortilla chips woah man you got gold without even having any UPVOTES *GET IT?????*
Reddit is only good for reading internet tough guys peacock about their strength in fight video boards. Why anyone would use it for anything else is beyond me. It’s just a step above ifunny
Average dumb redditors are a plague
2:36 actually, he replicated what CPR would do. A defibrillator stops the heart. CPR is what starts it beating again. Jotaro was effectively using his stand to do CPR.
Stops the heart from fibrillating more accurately, that is when the heart beats in an irregular pattern and as you might have guessed, is not a good thing. Defibrillators effectively shock the muscles back into a functional rhythm. But yeah, Jotaro is just doing some of the most metal cpr in human history
@@brokenlegs8431 So fibrillaiting is basically when your heart has the hiccups, and a defrillator is like holding your breath for a minute or 2 to reset airflow?
@@qwertyflags well from what I read ya
"This one is just strange"
Don't you mean 'This one is just BIZARRE"?
Hamon Beat Forgot
Also on the first point of repairing incorrectly, whenever Josuke creates a “road wall” that is also this “incorrect fix” ability.
no he created the road pieces into a larger piece of road but just didnt connect it to the rest of the ground; it was still technically a “correct” fix
Repairs / restructure, I dont see the issue
I had honestly assumed he fixed the bullys face wrong on purpose because....y'know he can
Like that could be true but I’m guessing it was out of sheer anger
@@coolghoul8515 that's essentially what happened, more or less. Since he was too pissed off to bother doing it correctly
Not even Crazy Diamond can fix this fandom.
I’m sad to say, this is true.
@@josukehigashikata2191 Jotaro shouod have sent you to Italy.
I think people just like putting their own headcanons as canon in poorly translated works. The Type-Moon fanbase like to point out plotholes and retcons Nasu made but when called out to make an example they are either debunked or go "Oh you just can't trust him."
Honestly, All fandoms are that way...
All fandoms have bad stuff in them, but I honestly thing Jojo's fandom is pretty good.
I don’t get why people want more from mikitaka he’s a joke and even if he was an alien who cares one of the reason JoJo is so good is because the world is truly bizarre I mean there are vampires cyborgs and Aztec gods the fact that there’s also aliens just makes it better
Those guys probably thought MSG4 was a masterpiece
I loved Mikitaka and the fun for me was the conundrum of his true identity with conflicting information. I don't want to have an answer confirmed.
@@diegodunn-humphrey512 It is?
yah I just kinda wish he was there for more than like 2 episodes because he was a fun character
@@diegodunn-humphrey512 Only shitters don't like MGS4
On the subject of whether or not Mikitaka is an alien or not, I’m reminded of a line from a famous author:
“Real life is full of mysteries, get over it”
Sauce 🙂
based
The problem with that is there's an expectation of an answer, and someone to ask right in front of you.
@@getthegoons thats life you dont get answers sometimes and its better that way the thrill of suspense is way better than the fast quick surprise of the true answers
I mean, what else could he concievable be? Something else far fetched like a mutant bio-weapon like Bao?
Dude can turn into rocket sneakers, let's just take his word on this, damn.
My assumption was wrong therefore Araki forgot compilation
Wow you have alot of subs
Ey the real seconds yt
fandom: hey these videos are pointless stop nitpicking
also fandom: AND WHY DIDN'T JOTARO STAR FINGER THE RAT
I'd rather have peace of mind knowing there is an explanation, instead of fans memeing a bunch of misconceptions.
GujinGod why didn’t jotaro finger the rat...
@@Wildcard-Jack-47 why do you have to say this
I almost had the worst kind of imagery pop up in my head
LeinRa I’m taking everyone down with me
ill finger the rat 🤤🤤
People saying “We cant trust Araki, hes just covering up his mistakes” feels like the guy telling the official Uno twitter that they dont know how to play Uno to me.
What an analogy
Bravo.
I'll cheers to that!
The difference is that the Uno twitter REALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO PLAY UNO
@@frosty_haze3935 wow you must be that guy lol
Jojo's is fiction : broke
Araki has been alive since the 19th century and it's an autobiography : woke
But araki isn’t jacked
@@OmagaProject not now, maybe he used to be and thats the reason newer jojos aren't that ripped
@@memicali2468 yeah, just like jotaro was in 3 but look almost normal in 6
QUICK MAKE DIAVOLO DIE SO ITS CANNON
@@ham1847 Diavolo death number 1019292282828282828288282727272826282826282827272727272726262626262222222228888888:killed by Araki in Italy in 2001.
Something Araki did forget: He tends to eat donuts that share the same color pallet of characters he kills off
Araki: **eats Chocolate donut** "And there goes Avdol. You know what, That was really good. I think I'll have another" **eats another Chocolate donut**
@@redgeoblaze3752 And there goes Iggy..
@@ManlyBuns nope, advol again
mmm... Cherry Donuts.
St. Patrick's Day Long John for Kakyoin
2:40 correction of a medical point: Defibrillators don’t make your heart start beating like you see done on tv, it actually corrects its beat when it’s out or control, or fibrillating, hence DEfibrillator
doesnt it essentially stop your heart from fluttering (or being in afib) to allow the body to reset its own pacemaker?
Anna Hanham kind of, but not really, essentially, when the heart’s natural pacemaker is out of sync, it needs a electric current stronger than its own to dictate the rhythm it should be beating at. This is all just a very simplified version but, yeah.
Gabriel00999
You learn something new every day
@@alfa01spotivo for real right
Well, this is a very common misconception, though, so it makes sense that Araki would go the everyman's fiction route, should the actual purpose of SP's heart pump be to act as a defibrillator.
I’m so glad Araki feels that way about Mikitaka.
Not everything needs to be explained or expanded upon in detail in fiction, sometimes it’s better to leave things vague because that allows people to come up with their own conclusions and that sparks discussions like this one.
"Who would have thought a stand that uses water could be so dangerous?"
You would have! You were nearly killed by one in Egypt!
Mistranslation.
Well jotaro did almost get injured but he only sustained minor damage, he was in an open area so he didnt feel trapped, in amgelos fight, he is also almost injured but he is emclosed with nowhere to run, aswell as doubling the amount of people trapped in angelos possesed house
He beat it by throwing a dog, would've been funny if he was like "quick josuke hand me a dog"
@@Del_1710 the user ate a dog, so he's probably immune
Also it's true in part 8 too
The savior one being an issue with people makes no sense.
Literally doesn't the narration for that flashback start with Koichi saying something like "This is my interpretation of the story with some blanks filled in?"
So Koichi just knows "Josuke does his hair after the guy who helped save him" So in the flashback it'd be natural that he'd just imagine someone like Josuke saving him. But I guess people took it literal.
People are dumb, unfortunately
@@zh7334 Jojo fans are.
@@milestone1719 you can say that again
@@zh7334 wanna see me do it again?
@@milestone1719 go ahead
People actually think that the third year who saved young Josuke was his future self from the end of DiU? Even though Josuke is a second year?
Josuke is a first year so even bigger difference.
wait where did he say the guy was a third year?
@@jesusjoestar8383 His pins are that of a third year.
@@melancholygirl7793 oh ok thx
I suppose people were more focused on the uncanny resemblance between the two. When I first watched the scene I was looking at how similar the two were, and already knowing that some stands can stop time. I made the inference that there could be a stand that could reverse time, which turned out to be true. So given all the ideas involved I'm sure anyone would come to the conclusion that Araki at least had the plans to use such a plot. But since he's been honest about Abandoned ideas before I'm sure he's probably telling the the truth here.
There’s one thing that most people seem to miss but a plausible theory is that the Alien from part 4 comes from the same planet from which the materials for the arrows comes from. That’s why he was immune to the arrow and why he has an innate ability.
🤔
Just straight up solved jojo
That’s actually a good theory but I like the fact that he’s just a red herring
He also incorrectly fixes things to make barriers, like smashing the sidewalk to make a wall in his fight with Kira
Everyone asks “Who shot Johnny” but no one asks “How shot Johnny”
Hi dolphin
YoDawgItz Nick dolphin
What if Johnny shot johnny
What shot Johnny
It was the American flag
TBH I assumed Josuke was the guy who saved Josuke as Koichi has like 0 imagination so was just like 'Eh just make him Josuke but like bleeding how he is now' Remember the flashback is conveyed by Koichi.
BreezierChip835 it’s almost like people don’t understand the “unreliable narrator”
Hanako Ikezawa but koichi is the most reliable guy I’ve ever met
bruh
@@hanakoikezawa8322 bro wtf koichi is the most reliable guy i have ever seen
JoJo fans be like "A random person helping someone? Nah, that's WAAAAY too far fetched, the simple answer is actually complicated time travel"
how is it far fetched if characters are shown to have time abilities, also the problem of having it be some random guy is because of how unsatisfying it is.
@@mattheus951 how is it unsatisfying? josuke was saved by some selfless punk, and that individual would go on to be his role model, influencing his stand, his style, and his behaviour. would you have preferred deus ex machina time travel that would only lead to even more questions instead?
@@nyctomint It’s in the statement, it’s SOME guy who doesn’t even have a face there’s nothing we know and nothing TO know. If a character is selfless then you’re supposed to say WHY they’re selfless otherwise they’re just one-dimensional, one note (which you CAN do, but it’s a no-go for important figures). It’s boring and lazy for a character that informs basically josuke’s entire personality and someone who feels so deeply about.
i don’t really care about time travel or whatever but it’s crazy to act like jojo has never done anything that doesn’t make sense and then resolved it with an over-explanation.
@@mattheus951 wait till you find out leaving important characters mysterious is an actual literary trope
@@nyctomint what does that change? It’s a trope so it’s not boring? lmao come on
Bruh of course Araki Forgot is real
He forgot to let Jonathan live through Phantom Blood
well technically it's even in part 3
He forgot FF
He forgot to let Speedwagon ascend
@Squrkyoin that isn’t a donut he forgot about giorno bringing dio to McDonald's
@@plankwastaken MACTONALDS
I like when people complain on how some stands have new abilities or even improved upon their original abiities but never mention the development potential some stands have
It's crazy because Koichi's stand was the biggest example of stands evolving but they just ignore that.
Because stand stats are bullshit tbqh, and then there's sex pistol going "no stand can have moer than one ability", which is dumb
@@elguaro3 I mean it's odd since it could mean he has a fractured mind, which is what group stands are.
@@thebariobro7664 Yeah, just like the non-canon light novel character said)
But i think being tetrophobe and being in jail for defending someone and self-defense is enough to have a group stand)
But also Bucciarati, Polnareff, Rai and Abbacchio all have fractured minds but their stands are full humanoid)
@@angelr6056 Koichi is a unique case. He goes through a lot of mental development throughout the series. His stand started as an egg, since he was given a stand while having little fighting will. And as he became more mature and capable it also evolved to be more complex and powerful. I assume something similar would happen to just about any stand user if they were given one by the arrow and magically healed to survive. If I remember right the stand arrow will kill you if you don't have enough willpower to survive.
It was just a random guy with a weird hair, then Josuke went: Huh he is cool. Then he wore similiar clothes and hair to the guy.
Josuke would be mad when you said "weird hair"
Not even similar clothes
He just wears school clothes and the other guy was also a student
Wore not weared
@@bardock9135 it is weird tho
hes forced to use similar cloathes because its the uniform in japan
itd be funny if hollys stand was just incredibly op but she just couldnt control it
The Hand 2
It looks like a it could be a hermit green
Maybe A stone free made with vines. A stand That have both stone free and hermit purple powers
I have this theory that holly stand takes away her vitality in exchange of protecting someone else (jotharo), some for of fortune or fate denial and she was using it against dio and protecting her son.
@@ninjabaiano6092 that would be the case if josuke didn't go through the same fever for the same period but in a different age.
Araki forgot to keep me alive
F-MEGA
@@milestone1719 Oh, Zats a basebawrrrr
Papas Kakyoinaria
no..
i did
Araki forgot for jotaro to use STAA PLUANCHINAA to revive you
JJBA fandom: Why every meaningless character gets written off?! Bring them back
Sonic fandom: You don't know what you're asking for...
I mean, there's a reason Big's Big fishing adventure actually becoming a thing would be the best thing ever...
If there's a fandom that is worse than the worse of the JoJo fandom is the Sonic fandom.
@@diegomedina9637 I honestly don't see anything wrong with the Jojo fandom. As far as I've seen at least.
@@XradicalD you must be either really new... Or really ignorant.
@@diegomedina9637 Or you get irritated easily. I've been around for quite a while now.
Why did people think the Josuke Flashback had to do with Time-travel, Bites the Dust can only back in time by a roughly a hour
Yeah i was so confused by that
Before watching that episode I saw some memes and was spoiled of kira's third ability but didn't know that it could only go back 1 hour and when I saw the episode I was like oh kira must have time traveled them and I was so thrilled to see the ending
From what I could gather, essentially before BtD was fully revealed, people saw Kira seemingly "travel back in time" when he accidently blew up Hayato. From this, they connected the dots that Kira might send Joksuke to the past so that his biggest annoyance would leave him alone. It was only when BtD's ability was fully revealed that people summed up their failed theory as a dropped plotpoint. Just like practically any rumor in this lovely community, this idea of a dropped plotpoint quickly spread like wildfire, thus so many people believing a lie
Because a causal time loop is the only way such a stupid hairstyle makes sense. Also bootstrap paradox is a far more interesting plot then "Some rando we'll never meet was in the middle of nowhere and helped push a car out of the snow."
@@weathermangohanssj4 Someone missed the point entirely
Moody Blues would’ve been very convenient in some of the main arcs of this part especially the Kira arcs.
Yeah it would have turned it into a GG ez
I’m so sick of the idea Stands bring back people from the dead. It’s not an Araki forgot, you’re just not paying attention.
that one did piss me off, Joseph got injected with vampire blood when he was brought back, y'know that stuff that reattached Vanilla Ice's HEAD AFTER IT GOT CUT OFF, obviously it could bring Joseph back
not to mention jotaro even said that joseph wasnt even dead and that he had been only 4 minutes without blood
@@coolghoul8515 Well, I agree some plotholes are actually some misunderstandings and misinterpretations but this interpretation of yours makes it even worse.
You want to say that Joseph had vampire blood after transfusion? Joseph turned to a zombie like when Vanilla Ice was revived? Can you hear what you are saying? This just makes this plot point even worse.
To me, Joseph's resurrection and Jotaro having the ability to stop time out of nowhere are the things that can never make any sense in the whole of Jojo.
I agree though that this is part of what defines Jojo actually, there is a reason why the "bizzare" part exists in the title.
That's what actually makes Jojo unique and enjoyable.
People just shouldn't take Jojo so "seriously" like that. They should stop pointing out such "plotholes", and actually people who try debunking them make it even worse.
JUST STOP TAKING JOJO SERIOUSLY AND ENJOY IT.
@@coolghoul8515 That isn't a plot hole. In the Final Battle DIO sucked Joseph's blood. So when the transfusion happnened Joseph only got the blood DIO stealed from him back.
@@gabrielcorreiadasilva5789
Not to mention if some of Dio's blood got in, it would not infect Joseph. Did people forget he is a hamon user?
i feel like they should've brought joseph to tonio's, so they could fix at least a few of his ailments
What makes you think that didn't happen? By the end of Part 4, Joseph doesn't have the same hearing problems he had when he came to Morioh and he also doesn't seem to be senile anymore. Granted, that seems to be more of a result of being around Shizuka, given that he gains a lot of his vitality back once the invisible baby shows up.
BlueMageDanny Its pretty easy to explain, Araki wanted Joseph to be taken seriously during the last few scenes he would be in during Diamond is unbreakable. Imagine during the final chapters with Joseph and Jotaro on that boat and instead of them having a serious talk about Josuke Joseph just kept on asking Jotaro to repeat himself because he couldn’t hear him. Araki didn’t want to spoil the mood for the little scenes Joseph would be in at the end of the part. And it’s not like he had much screen time during the end of DiU for him to act senile at all
Sorry for the long read
Logical reasoning? Nah, let's just say "araki wanted it lol"
God, I wish I can go to Tonio to fix some shit goin on in my body, but supposedly Joseph should have been more vital as a hamon power user, we shouldn't forget his mother in her early 50's didn't look older than a early 30's,late 20 something energetic woman
Well Araki isn't flawless. But seeing how most of his mistakes are written in a way that could be explained logically I think it's safe to say he's a good writer.
The concept of a person being capable of good writing AND make mistakes is hard to fathoms for some people, I guess
I just feel like this was a joke that people took too seriously.
@@TaggedByTim That's Poe's Law for ya
@@derrilazkia1002 I was really frustrated seeing a video on Fugo someone made where he started off by saying Araki was a bad writer and only got where he was in terms of art and deadlines, so he used examples of bad writing that ranged from minor to wrong.
@@alecazam6755 wait what? I don't know this video. Could you drop a link?
If you pay attention to how Rohan activates heavens door, you can see that he does still have to show people the drawing... kinda. He draws it so fast in the air that it leaves the image there and when people see that it manifests the stand. At least, that's my take on it. And then at no point is anyone successfully able to dodge it or get away. It's already got them by the time they see him draw the head.
I have to say something when Okeyasu swiped the ground in the chilly pepper fight another reason the ground didn’t come back together is because he didn’t cut trough the entire planet. An example is when Okeyasu swiped trough the sign and it came together.
You kinda have a point
I just realized maybe Josuke's Stand abilities refer the fact that when Josuke saw the guy when he was a kid he wanted to heal him for saving Him and His mom.
Yeah,most of natural stands reflect something about the user's personality,josuke,fugo,abacchio
Bucciarati as well because his parents were separated in his life.
Like a zipper.
The High Ground oh that’s actually smart
@Jojo's Mildly Exciting UA-cam Channel And there here's Narancia, a P L A N E
@@Bruh-vd1pp well, he has a mind of a child, and a toy plane is a perfect stand for his personal.
At this point, those “Araki forgots” seem really petty, like that when ppl say why Josuke just couldn’t fix the phone he broke by grabbing it too hard
@Mia yun Ruse I always thought that Josuke grabbed a second phone because he was under stress, and naturally wouldn't think straight. Plus it shown that he's like most teenage boys, kind of a dumbass
@Mia yun Ruse The A) part is really what bugs me about a lot of obtrusive forgot fans, just because you have a stand, doesn't mean you always have to use it. I forgot my natural capabilities as well, or just not use them. I have the ability to cook, but it doesn't mean I want to, not that Tonio would do that, just a figure of speech. People should think of Stands as natural capabilities, capabilities sometimes you don't use.
I like to point out the Harvest arc, which for me, exemplifies ABUSING a stand power for personal gain, it shows that stands shouldn't be used for scamming, cheating, and whatnot like Josuke tried to do with Rohan.
How often do you actually jump in your everyday Life
When someone is far away, why do call them when you have the magical ability of *whistling*
When does the ability to burp on command come into the story
"Why Okuyasu didn't used the hand to delete a Fucking tower or Shigechi"
1:10-Josuke fixing incorrectly
2:13-Stands can't bring people back to life
2:57-Josuke can't heal Nijimura
3:27-Height changes
3:56-Okuyasu's erasure
4:57-Rohan getting Heaven
5:24-Josuke's savior
7:36-Josuke's sickness
8:41-Minor characters
9:14-How does Heaven's Door work?
10:04-Why not use Krazy Diamond for locating Kira?
10:35-Shear Heart Attack didn't return
11:38-Not using Hermit Purple for locating
12:47-Fixing fingernails
13:17-Mikitaka aLIEn?
13:38-Fungami never used tunnel powers
14:20-Motorcycle gag
14:43-Fungami not using smell for locating
15:11-WHY DIDN'T JOTARO USE STAR FINGER TO END WORLD HUNGER?!
15:52-Time loop memories
16:52-Fixing Hayato
17:24: Activating Bites the Dust
Lmao there are sooo many people asking why abilities that aren't necessary should be coming back and it's hilarious. I'm suprised people aren't asking why the tommy gun joseph used didn't come back because that argument is just as dumb.
Don't give them ideas.
It’s actually a pretty good way to subdue the enemy and give you time to attack since there literally obliterated by bullets and need time to regenerate but if he used it in his old years it would be more effective since stand users won’t regenerate after that type of attack
@@nuggetygoodness5485 lmfao
Xavier Barns it’s true tho imagine going to kill Jotaro and some old dude pulls out a Tommy gun and annihilates you with bullets
it was a one time prop it's not an ability they keep forever we can talk about what ifs all day I was just making fun of these people who think every single ability has to be shown off in every other fight or Araki "forgot" it it's hilarious.
8:50 FINALLY SOMEONE REALIZES THAT PART 4 IS IN A SLICE OF LIFE STYLE
I’m pretty sure everyone knows this
Dude I think that's the whole gimmick of Part 4
From *Weekly Shonen Brackets 100Q (04/15/2003)* with Hirohiko Araki
"Q73: Will Shizuka Joestar come back?
No."
Thank you. It’s an unfortunate answer, but it is the real one.
Bruh
bruh :(
I honestly think he introduced her there just as a "backup" plan in case he needed a protagonist for the next parts or something. Although it would have been cool to have her as a side character in Part 6 or something, like sneaking into the prison to help Jolyne.
@@rickydargence5948 He introduced her so Joseph and Josuke could have an arc together where they bond
I have another explanation for why Josuke's saviour looked like Josuke - this was being told to "us" by Koichi, and thus we were seeing his imagination. Naturally, since Josuke only told him that he was a delinquent with the same hairstyle, it would be easiest for Koichi to imagine the saviour as looking like Josuke.
That still doesn't explains why the flying fuck Koichi reimagine josuke's savior with injuries. This theory makes no sense.
@@IAMNOTRANA Typically when someone as bland and 'safe' as Koichi thinks of a delinquent they typically imagine people like that getting into fights often and often times being victim to getting 'jumped' I.E getting beaten down by more than one person. So Koichi must have assumed that the delinquent in Josuke's story must have gotten into a fight or might of been jumped before showing up when he did. Either that or Josuke's hot mom told him more of the story.
Either is infinitely more plausible than some dumb ass time travel theory.
@@IAMNOTRANA motherfucker don't you have any idea how a Japanese delinquent looked in the 70s and the 80s,also Josuke could simply tell koichi the delinquent was hurt
Character: *doesn't use a move again for 1 second*
Everyone: BRUH LOOKS LIKE ARAKI FORGOT THEIR ABILITES SMH :/
Character: *has a very situational ability*
People: Araki forgot smh
@@softwet6393 accurate.
Star finger: is a last ditch effort and a quite weak one at that
"Fans": omg why didn't he just use it in every fight? Araki forgot 🙄
@@lavender1394 yeah how dare fans expect details to have significance and pay offs
@@Jejehfufjsjggd Having Jotaro use a terrible move in a fight when he has plenty of better moves would be a poor payoff.
The biggest issue I have with the "past Josuke" thing is that it's so much better as some random guy. A random act of kindness inspired Josuke to be the best Jojo.
Is it really tho?
It was just a good samaritan is that too hard to accept?
@@lucalamanna-vg2bz That's....what I was saying?
Desmond theOrc
They didn’t notice the emphasis on “as.”
Instead they saw it as “than.”
So a random guy inspired Josuke to be Giorno Giovanna?
Best JoJo indeed
I thought star finger could only be used when he’s not moving and he concentrates his power just like stand shrinking
good reason
If that is to be believed then star finger is even more shit
That explains even more why Jotaro doesn’t use star finger more often
*HFTF would want to know your location*
But seriously, if that’s true then Star Finger is literally useless in *ANY* situations (due to it only extending 1-2 meters, requires focus, aiming and is predictable)
its shite, im pretty sure it was explained either in the show or the manga but at this point i don’t even remember when
I think the most insulting thing is the Mysterious man, just because people made theories about him it doesn’t mean that he automatically serves relevance to the story later on, he’s clearly there to gain Josuke’s respect and inspire him to adopt the same style.
15:07 expanding on the fact that yuya didnt find kira with his smell, he didnt know what kira smelt like anyways
That too
The button ?
@@No_one-impor_tant Pretty sure they lost the button when both Jotaro and Koichi nearly died to Shear Heart Attack, also Yuya Fungami wasn't even established as an enemy yet, let alone an ally.
@@InsulinRunner His former house
Even with all the things that he could of found Kira with, its assuming that yuya would even want to risk his life to find Kira cause he was hesitant about fighting enigma so let alone the threat that they know to be extremely dangerous.
Josuke even fixes "incorrectly" in the final fight doesn't he? When he embeds his blood into the heart shaped shard of glass. It's not exactly incorrect because it was deliberate but he still fixed something back to a different shape. I really don't get why people misunderstood that he can choose to change the shape of things.
Same with the revival stuff how do people not realise Joseph could only be revived because of the blood lmao
He also incorrectly fixes the pavement to block Killer Queen’s air bombs
@@kt1787 true
The Josuke Getting Affected By *Bites The Dust* To Save His Past Self Really Doesn’t Make Sense. Remember *Bites The Dust’s Time Limit* Is *1* Hour.
But remember that Bites the Dust is an ability that was recently gained by Kira, so 1 hour is probably not its limit. Still, I don’t see how it still make sense, because bites the dust rewinds time so if Josuke were to return to his childhood he’d still be a child
🤔
@@El3.14J I think the argument is that Araki had a general idea of what he wanted Bites The Dust's ability to be, and he set up the possible plotline for there to be time travel shenanigans. He probably dropped that plotline when he flashed out Killer Queen's stand
Nib it wasnt a dropped plot point ffs , josuke litteraly says that he BASED HIS LOOK ON the dude
@@turkcedirsenunsdasf7521 can you read? I said ot might have been one in the beta, like the very first ideas Araki came up with. After realizing exactly what Bites the Dust was, Araki made it into the plotline we know today
Jojo fans when their fan theory is proven wrong: Nah man Araki just forgot
I can't believe people complain about minor characters being minor. The varied, charming cast is one of the reasons part 4 is my favourite.
Also my favorite
Your opinion is wrong and part 2 is the best
@@moukhshiii7220 part 2 is good but it has no stands
@@ZOABEIJINGOFFICAL Great, part 3 and 4 were power rangers shit except for the end of part 4,oh no new n word new stand woww so strong one ep later he's a nobody, the battles in part 2 actually mattered
@@moukhshiii7220 that’s your opinion I agree part 3 had a lot of boring stand users every episode but part 4 stand users actually interesting
7:18 holy shit, here you can see multiple josukes, it must be some time travel plot point Araki forget
Edit: hey you guys don’t forget this guy started screaming about crime statistics about black crime rates and is suuuuuper fucking racist and ignores the fact that correlation doesn’t equal causation lmao
this is an alternative ending for bites the dust where OG Josuke gathers all the other Josuke and just straight up beat Kira to death and fixing him repeatedly
Dirty Diamonds Done Dirt Crazy
Thot Destroyer shit that’s true. Also love the pfp
Haha jou made me scream laughing
ThEy ArEn'T jOsUkE bRuH
Araki forgets believers: ThE *iNtErViEwS* ArE *UnReLiAbLe!!!!!!*
Also them: ArAkI sAiD hE hAs MeMoRy PrObLeMs iN aN *iNtErViEw!!!!!!!*
Lol
Well yeah, interviews about a part after a part is finished are unreliable as Araki can just make shit up. I’m pretty sure he said the worlds tanks on its back were oxygen tanks. This would be to give oxygen to everyone in stopped time. However, star platinum doesn’t have any of said tanks, meaning he suffocates whilst in stopped time, despite him talking to Dio.
@Halil Efe Yayla proof
@@MorriganAutumn No he didn't lol this is just a design choice that was made because:
A) Dio was trapped under the sea for years
B) The design of the world is just a big Holy Diver reference
@@ZeppeliGaming comicbook.com/anime/news/jojos-bizarre-adventure-creator-dio-stand-the-world-fact-anime/ this is a link to an article saying this, actually quoting Araki.
For the Josuke saving Josuke flashback, I believe we're seeing it as he sees it. If Josuke is intentionally trying to match his look, it'd make sense they look so similar in his memories.
The scene is being narrated by koichi, being told to okuyasu
*Part 4 Araki Forgot video is released*
Hamon Beat: "Another One Bites the Dust"
dodododo
another one bites the dust
@Ironclad tortilla chipsShucktana
The whole "Josuke was supposed to save himself!" meme is so annoying because it fits the theme of Part 4 much better for it to have been a random good samaritan who acted for completely selfless reasons. The whole theme of this part is about the inherent goodness of the people of Morioh and how that drives the heroes to find and defeat Kira. They want to protect the soul of their town, the soul that is embodied in a random injured delinquent stopping to help a single mother and her sick child.
If it was a time traveling Josuke then what theme is there? Our hero wants to save himself? Okay. He's already shown himself to be selfless so many times by the point this supposed reveal would happen so it adds nothing to his character arc or the theme. 🤷♀️
Stephanie C
Yeah exactly that's could be why Araki change it, he did original intend to have josuke himself though
No that was never planned in the first place
Video Game Fighter
Oh so this guy just happened to have a face and body structure exactly like Josuke then some how wonder off to the middle of nowhere then it's just happened he's at the perfect place and at the perfect time to save a car that just happened to have a sick baby in it that will possibly die without his help mere seconds after its got stuck WHILE A MASSIVE GIGANTIC ASS BLIZZARD IS STILL GOING ON IN A SHOW THAT HAVE A CHARACTER THAT HAVE TIME TRAVEL ABILITY THAT'S EXTREMELY REVERENT LATER ON *AND THE AUTHOR HIROHIKO ARAKI HAVE THE (BATTLE) TENDENCY TO THROW IDEAS AT HIS STORY THAT HE MAY ABANDON OR CHANGE AT ANYTIME*
@@sammysaito529 it's almost as if the teenager that Josuke decided to model himself after would... look like Josuke. It's not like there's a shortage of other characters with Josuke's build (Araki doesn't exactly vary his body types) or people that wear the same uniform as Josuke but with different accents (notice Josuke's savior doesn't have the same accents, if he intended that to be Josuke, why would he get that wrong?).
Stephanie C
Uh huh, well you can't exactly model your face after someone, also not that Josuke savior have a different accent, is that he didn't speak at all, also I like how you only focus on 1 part of my entire argument and ignore the rest
It continues to surprise me how such simple concepts and already connected dots can be considered as gaping plot holes simply based on there being a few pre-existing plot holes.
"This thing is a plot hole."
No, and here's why.
"You're wrong because look at the other plot holes."
Don’t forget the final excuse
“It was just a joke”, which is just a “jokes on you I MEANT to look stupid”
@@Kumaclaws
Yes of course, I feel like the meme with Joseph saying "next you'll say I was only pretending to be retarded" always fits quite nicely with most "Araki forgot" sycophants.
Most of the people saying “Araki forgot” are people that forgot things themselves lmao
9:52 Don't you mean that he's too mad to even know what drawings are
yea
Araraki: I'm gonna create a character that will be a good role model for Josuke .
Fans: No, you are suppose to make Josuke time travel because he is that guy.
Araraki: No he is not.
Fans: Yes he is.
Araraki: But, but I am the one who writes the plot.
Fans: Just do it!
Ah yes, “Araraki”
Ararararararararararara! Araki!
@@InsaneFortnitePro sorry. I flubbed it.
@@Estra_Estra arakaderci
Why are people obsessed with Star Finger?
Because memes
Because they want to be Star Fingered
@@terrytheblackmage4799 oh naw that be painfull
@@jinsei8174 Bruh *I* wanna be Star Fingered
@@terrytheblackmage4799 as he says... *it's painfull*
This should be called “Jojo fans forgot”