Debunking Araki Forgot: Part 5 - Vento Aureo

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  • Debunking common misconceptions in Part 5.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 11 тис.

  • @Hamon_Beat
    @Hamon_Beat  4 роки тому +5005

    Respond with your suggestions for Part 6

    • @morbidwolf94
      @morbidwolf94 4 роки тому +162

      edit: thx to anyone to point out that everyone thats alive can survive MiH
      anyway changing my question to how Pucci who got infinite speed cant even catch a kid? its sounds like Emporio gains plot armor to be able to escape from Pucci because "fate"

    • @payne9682
      @payne9682 4 роки тому +174

      Here's a question for part 6: After Emporio kills Pucci with Weather Report at the end, did that cause the creation of another new universe or not? I'm confused how many universes/timelines were created in the last few chapters

    • @chrisesponel1334
      @chrisesponel1334 4 роки тому +87

      I feel like there is something to say about Whitesnake's weird goo trap room, or more importantly, how he got the Beetle Arrow to awaken his and weather reports stand.
      Also please mention DIO says survivor is the weakest stand but also says Joseph has the weakest stand. It's not an inconsistency, Araki just forgot Dio made that insult

    • @chrisesponel1334
      @chrisesponel1334 4 роки тому +27

      @@payne9682 I'm pretty sure there is still only one. Pucci didn't create a new one, he just reset the old one

    • @payne9682
      @payne9682 4 роки тому +20

      @@chrisesponel1334 It seems like there were two resets then. One when he killed everyone except Emporio....and the second reset, once Weather Report finishes him off in the illusion room in jail (don't know if that was the real name of the room).

  • @commando7238
    @commando7238 4 роки тому +5017

    What I find funny about the picture Giorno had in the manga is that all the women DIO slept with that he didn't kill he just gave them a signed photo of himself

    • @gayzer1020
      @gayzer1020 4 роки тому +1086

      I impragnated you. Here is a photo.

    • @yodaslastic
      @yodaslastic 4 роки тому +681

      lmao just a souvenir for the fact i didnt kill you

    • @graysonwells551
      @graysonwells551 4 роки тому +422

      But why would DIO sign a photo as Dio Brando? Hadn't he abandoned the Brando part by then?

    • @matthewhamilton2913
      @matthewhamilton2913 4 роки тому +205

      Heres my signature to compensate too

    • @kannonpaul9258
      @kannonpaul9258 4 роки тому +420

      Giorno: I keep this photo with me at all times. It’s my only true connection that I have with my real father. Hell, this is the only thing that I appreciate from my bitch of a mother giving me. Which is why this photo is important to me, even if I can never actually see his face.
      Dio: Hey girl, you obviously can’t get enough of me, take this photo of my back muscles and do the ‘no no’ with it when you feel it.

  • @bean5165
    @bean5165 4 роки тому +4318

    The reason why Mista is alive:
    *Rolling stone said so*

    • @theabsolutetrashman3708
      @theabsolutetrashman3708 4 роки тому +64

      I still can't understand how the fuck he survived getting shot 3 times in the head, before Giorno got his healing abilities during the Babyface/Junior fight

    • @koktszfung
      @koktszfung 4 роки тому +126

      ​@@theabsolutetrashman3708 have you watched this video...

    • @oysteregg2537
      @oysteregg2537 4 роки тому +18

      @@koktszfung can one of the sex pistol guys go fast enough to block 3 bullets?

    • @koktszfung
      @koktszfung 4 роки тому +117

      @@oysteregg2537 I don't know but they did move pretty fast considering they are fast enough to observe and make decision while riding a bullet then changing the bullet's trajectory

    • @dangerwarg9682
      @dangerwarg9682 4 роки тому +23

      @@oysteregg2537 Only if they're near Mista and know it's coming. Plus the 3 shots were 1 by 1 landing inches apart from each other.
      The first case of Mista getting shot, it wasn't expected and he was still shooting. The third case Mista getting shot, it wasn't expected that the frozen air was reflecting the bullets, and even after being made aware of this, Mista and Sex Pistols continued to attack the ice man. The fourth case of Mista getting shot, he didn't think Oasis was so fast that he could punch bullets away, sending shards flying back at Mista in the moment. The fifth case of Mista getting shot, he didn't know one of his bullets had turned on him while under Chariot's.

  • @thebestlamb511
    @thebestlamb511 3 роки тому +3539

    Araki actually forgot to put the torture dance music in the manga.

    • @shinkenger2011
      @shinkenger2011 3 роки тому +231

      That was an unforgivable offense smh my head

    • @alimations5226
      @alimations5226 3 роки тому +208

      That would have been some vocal percussion on a whole 'nother level

    • @GooserMan
      @GooserMan 3 роки тому +88

      @@alimations5226 coming through my mind

    • @lmao1660
      @lmao1660 3 роки тому +68

      @@GooserMan aaaaaaaaaaaaah we're golden wind

    • @GooserMan
      @GooserMan 3 роки тому +52

      @@lmao1660 Kono me amareri maroreri merare maro

  • @kuro_100
    @kuro_100 3 роки тому +1380

    Don’t let this distract you from the fact that Kars is still floating in space

    • @ashton3357
      @ashton3357 3 роки тому +85

      (Part 7 Spoilers)
      And Magenta Magenta is still stuck at the bottom of some water, I think

    • @saikorou7856
      @saikorou7856 3 роки тому +41

      @@ashton3357 Magenta Magenta is Kars from space falling into the ocean

    • @Ultradragon16
      @Ultradragon16 3 роки тому +68

      Araki forgot is only temporary. Kars in Space is eternal

    • @alimations5226
      @alimations5226 3 роки тому +51

      Don't let this distract you from the fact that Diavolo is still dying

    • @naturescorruptedinfactorie8062
      @naturescorruptedinfactorie8062 3 роки тому +52

      @@alimations5226 Don’t let this distract you from the fact Jonathan is probably wondering what the actual fuck is happening in heaven when watching his descendants

  • @mobybrick2357
    @mobybrick2357 4 роки тому +6681

    Wait so Chocolotta felt the 7 page muda in slow motion...?
    *Y I K E S*

    • @alecfongy3175
      @alecfongy3175 4 роки тому +186

      Moby Brick
      Yes

    • @nobgs4505
      @nobgs4505 4 роки тому +910

      Can't say he didn't deserve it though.

    • @LinkJTO
      @LinkJTO 4 роки тому +673

      Ya that would be terrible, think about it, every single punch in slow motion, the 7 page muda would turn into 700 page muda

    • @mobybrick2357
      @mobybrick2357 4 роки тому +482

      @@LinkJTO and that's assuming the consciousness speeding doesn't stack

    • @LinkJTO
      @LinkJTO 4 роки тому +325

      Moby Brick if that would be the case it would be close to a million years of suffering before it ends, yikes

  • @blank6165
    @blank6165 4 роки тому +27123

    Plot hole: In JoJo, Giorno can fold his ear in. However, he does not use this to automatically kill Diavolo by sheer awe.

    • @matthewward3562
      @matthewward3562 4 роки тому +4022

      I'm sure that is just one of Diavolos many deaths.

    • @anqhor
      @anqhor 4 роки тому +2564

      You mean he would give Diavolo, a *Sheer Heart Attack?*
      I'll see myself out

    • @averonisgaming9023
      @averonisgaming9023 4 роки тому +1224

      @@anqhor You mean, *Absolute Cardiac Arrest* ?

    • @anqhor
      @anqhor 4 роки тому +675

      @@averonisgaming9023 Brought to You by *Deadly Queen, user is Yoshi Killa*

    • @prestongarvey2599
      @prestongarvey2599 4 роки тому +621

      @@anqhor Full Localization Loadout:
      User: Yoshicage Killer
      Stand: Deadly Queen
      Sub-Stand 1: Absolute Cardiac Arrest
      Sub-Stand 2: Chomp The Ash

  • @Aspensauce64
    @Aspensauce64 3 роки тому +947

    1:30 I think DIO just really liked the spirit photo because it made him look super cool and mysterious.

    • @ctrlaltrepeat245
      @ctrlaltrepeat245 2 роки тому +184

      DIO: “Wait what if I use Johnathans Stand on myself…?”
      *4 photos and a month later*
      “Hooh, baby, want one of these cool photographs taken by my cool purple vines?”
      “No? Well fuck you you’re getting one anyway.”

    • @spittyjr.2181
      @spittyjr.2181 2 роки тому +11

      @@ctrlaltrepeat245 Lol!

    • @an0rmalp3rson70
      @an0rmalp3rson70 Рік тому

      @@ctrlaltrepeat245 no? Well I've literally fucked you, take it

    • @sandwichboy1268
      @sandwichboy1268 Рік тому +20

      ​@@ctrlaltrepeat245 "photo or fleshbud, your choice"

  • @jamescallanan2443
    @jamescallanan2443 3 роки тому +1907

    Honestly, I always thought that Bucciarattis ghost was just possessing his own corpse. That seems like what you explained here and the idea of a persons ghost interacting with their corpse or zombie feels like a cool story idea

    • @rpgryder1886
      @rpgryder1886 2 роки тому +118

      yep, he was possessing himself by using left over life energy from giorno, because he wasnt fated to die there, good old plot drive fate kept his soul in there long enough to come back.

    • @CrystallizedBlackSkull
      @CrystallizedBlackSkull 2 роки тому +98

      Its funny cuz I though everybody understood this especiaply when anime was still running. Everybody kept talking and joking about "Zombie mom" but for some reason after the part ended this just poofed out of people's heads like wtf?

    • @act2wasstronger182
      @act2wasstronger182 2 роки тому +43

      I think that just as soon as bucciarati died, Giorno infused his corpse with a surplus of life essence thus allowing him to cling on for a few more days

    • @an0rmalp3rson70
      @an0rmalp3rson70 Рік тому +10

      @@rpgryder1886 bro didn't die because of literal plot 💀

    • @PetitPoneyDuVercors26
      @PetitPoneyDuVercors26 Рік тому +12

      It was just some additional time, diavolo got a penalty for not fighting fairly

  • @thenightjackal
    @thenightjackal 4 роки тому +3447

    Remember when Giorno has the ability to stuff his ear in his head? This was obviously supposed to illude to his stand being able to produce a black hole in his ear canal. But Araki forgot.

    • @CaltosVirnam
      @CaltosVirnam 4 роки тому +25

      lol

    • @meemdealer6559
      @meemdealer6559 4 роки тому +44

      Smh Araki

    • @slysamuel5902
      @slysamuel5902 4 роки тому +158

      “Giorno’s stand ability was originally body manipulation, but than araki forgot. Despite the fact that like, five minutes later we see giorno’s actual stand ability. Clearly this is fact.”

    • @thenightjackal
      @thenightjackal 4 роки тому +37

      Samuel Ramishvili Yeah, I think that has a lot to do with how much manga completely disregards Chekhov’s Gun and how a lot of JoJo fans are westerners unfamiliar with how completely useless a lot of things introduced in manga are

    • @UltraUltimatium
      @UltraUltimatium 4 роки тому +1

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @TheWorldBelowDnD
    @TheWorldBelowDnD 4 роки тому +5476

    Part 3 characters saying an ability is impossible doesn't mean it actually is... Kakyoin and Jotaro aren't omniscient...

    • @francescolombardi3438
      @francescolombardi3438 4 роки тому +663

      OMG why didn't Bruno lick Narancia to tell if he was lying?!
      -people who don't pay taxes, probably

    • @linksoni213
      @linksoni213 4 роки тому +234

      It's still not the ability
      If the ability was to pull people inside the mirror, then breaking the mirror would destroy that world, but it doesn't
      Man in The Mirror creates a world, or has access to a world that is a mirrowed version of the normal world, but it's not inside a mirror, mirrors are just doorways

    • @Jiam26TuGfa123
      @Jiam26TuGfa123 4 роки тому +167

      Kakyoin was just a smart boy, but he didn't know everything.

    • @demerzel3798
      @demerzel3798 4 роки тому +378

      People make fun of "nOtHiNg cAn dEfLeCt tHe EmErAlD sPlaSh" but people still expect Kakyoin to know every Stand ability ever

    • @Johten
      @Johten 4 роки тому +39

      Im just waiting for the day we get a stand that can bring someone back to life

  • @TigerMan-og5bs
    @TigerMan-og5bs 3 роки тому +804

    Honestly the more you think about it, Koichi is the perfect person to look for Giorno. Not only does he have the 50 meter scouting range of Act 1 and 2 that Jotaro was referring to, he also has the extreme versatility of Act 2’s ability and literally the perfect ability for restraining someone without severely injuring them in Act 3. And on top of all of that, he’s super unassuming due to being a 5’2” high school student.

    • @DIO-ni2db
      @DIO-ni2db 2 роки тому +2

      He cant go back stages

    • @chrisholland3066
      @chrisholland3066 2 роки тому +199

      @@DIO-ni2db Yes he can? Lmao. Did you read/watch it? He changes it alot. Like when they was going to old man joseph boat in part 4.

    • @ninjabaiano6092
      @ninjabaiano6092 Рік тому +98

      Also he's reliable

    • @PetitPoneyDuVercors26
      @PetitPoneyDuVercors26 Рік тому +96

      And he's quite in control of his anger, you need more than dissing his hair to get him explode x)

    • @an0rmalp3rson70
      @an0rmalp3rson70 Рік тому +27

      @@DIO-ni2db watch the show doodoo head

  • @thedevilgoose2482
    @thedevilgoose2482 2 роки тому +298

    The idea of Cioccolata experiencing the life shot(s) during 7-page muda makes the whole thing so much more brutal
    I love it.

    • @skuoppy
      @skuoppy Рік тому +30

      this probably happened with diavolo too, because GER is catastrophically stronger in pure punching power than normal gold experience. Diavolo would've probably been completely vaporized by Requiem's normal punches, but i like to think that Giorno just prolonged his life out of pure hatred.

    • @incription
      @incription 10 місяців тому +3

      @@skuoppyI don’t think ger punches are any stronger than regular, there’s no evidence of that

    • @charlesguillergan8759
      @charlesguillergan8759 9 місяців тому +10

      ​@@incriptionhe literally flicked a piece of rubble at the speed of a bullet or even faster

    • @seifeir6951
      @seifeir6951 28 днів тому

      @@skuoppyGE’s ability is to imbue things with life energy. GER’s new ability is zero. It would follow that its punches imbue things with ‘zero’
      GER killed Diavolo, but the act of dying was zeroed out. Hence why perpetually exists in his moment of death

  • @smoovemooths
    @smoovemooths 4 роки тому +2921

    I thought Polpo's finger thing was just him being weird, like how he pretended to be a bed, so that he can catch his "candidates" off guard.

    • @A1phaz0ne
      @A1phaz0ne 4 роки тому +173

      People complained about the fingers AND the bed thing together.
      Yet this buy only spoke on the finger part. He knew he had no explanation for the bed, lmao. Looks like Araki did forget.

    • @zh7334
      @zh7334 4 роки тому +334

      Yeah, I honestly just ignore these examples of Jojo weirdness. It's something you have to accept.

    • @simonj6801
      @simonj6801 4 роки тому +274

      @@A1phaz0ne His fat makes him the same size as a bed, I mean Giorno could fold his entire ear into his skull so it kinda makes sense

    • @Crosshill
      @Crosshill 4 роки тому +24

      i dont even question things anymore

    • @laurencebetteridge8633
      @laurencebetteridge8633 4 роки тому +113

      I didn't really agree with Beat's explanation of the finger thing. I did see someone say something about Polpo just being a master illusionist which is interesting. Would explain the bed and fingers together, the reason for him being this would I guess mostly be just to throw the readers/viewers of JoJo off. Like how Araki loves to do with his character introductions and make us find everything completely Bizarre the first time we see things without explanations (also makes us constantly speculate their Stand's power).
      So really we were seeing everything from Giorno's perspective as we were following him enter the prison alone and had his thoughts constantly expressed to us, like we were along for the ride.
      Or just Polpo's massive size coupled with Giorno being on edge and again Araki just wanting to weird us out and be as on edge as Giorno, then Giorno thinks he sees Polpo eat his fingers just for the lighter to appear because he was on edge.
      Best explanations I can think of (Araki wanting to just put us on edge I think is pretty concrete but I'm not confident in anything I've heard for the in universe explanations but these are the best for me and what I'm kinda going by for now)
      Also I saw a suggestion Polpo is just some kind of creature (like how we've been shown there are alot of life forms in JoJo from ancient Pillar Men to Vampires and a _possible_ alien, Araki at least toys with these ideas). This would explain the eyes, his weird figure, bed transformation and finger restoration better.
      Maybe based off some Italian folktale or creature I'm not aware of but Araki has researched?
      I left this one last though because I personally don't subscribe to it. Don't really see the point in making one random character a creature never established before in the universe and with such little allusion to it (if at all) as weird shit happening in character and stand reveals is usually supposed to be clear after the reveal, I didn't understand afterwards though.
      Sorry for the wall but didn't know what to cut out from this.

  • @Dogflamingo
    @Dogflamingo 4 роки тому +4971

    0:54 C'mon how do people not know how reliable of a guy Koichi is, honestly disgusting

    • @TheWorldBelowDnD
      @TheWorldBelowDnD 4 роки тому +551

      Some people have no dignity

    • @Salazar52
      @Salazar52 4 роки тому +434

      I can't belive that people find hard to belive that Jotaro would trust his own and only child Koichi

    • @greenfa7786
      @greenfa7786 4 роки тому +59

      @@TheWorldBelowDnD dammit I was going to say that

    • @Dogflamingo
      @Dogflamingo 4 роки тому +87

      @@Salazar52 I believe you are forgetting about Jouta

    • @cise3895
      @cise3895 4 роки тому +16

      I think it was wishful thinking. I for one would’ve loved to see more part 4 Josuke :(

  • @jerahmeelshemlaxasalenga847
    @jerahmeelshemlaxasalenga847 3 роки тому +152

    I love it how Araki think of his characters as real person since he cares about Fugo in this story

    • @ctrlaltrepeat245
      @ctrlaltrepeat245 2 роки тому +37

      Thats the best way to treat a character.
      When writing a character you have to understand that they are *your* creation. When you want to do something with that character, you gotta rememeber that that action is only reversable with a retcon.

  • @maddy02_
    @maddy02_ 3 роки тому +354

    I Teared up hearing that Araki was too depressed to kill off Fugo through betrayal. Idk why 😔

    • @JackClockerinos
      @JackClockerinos 2 роки тому +71

      It's because Araki is not only a very kind person, but also because people wrongly-assumed Fugo didn't appear for some boring "Araki forgot" nonsense or because of his ability, when it's because Araki was in a dark place and didn't want to make his material even darker and more depressing than he was already making it.
      As someone who just got into JoJo and finished part 5, I didn't really like it but realizing Araki wrote it under deep depression does add a new way of looking at it for me now. I always thought the tone difference was a little awkward when watching it, but now it makes perfect sense, and I understand the story more

  • @maxgoose707
    @maxgoose707 4 роки тому +2308

    Imajne if diavolo couldnt interact with his clothes since its not a prt of him, its just on him, and he phases through his clothes every time he uses king crimson and is naked after every skip

    • @StormSurge-dr2fl
      @StormSurge-dr2fl 4 роки тому +80

      That's not how it works. He simply avoids what is fated to hit him, his clothes aren't fated to be on him they already ARE.

    • @weebaverage3026
      @weebaverage3026 4 роки тому +542

      The only reason Araki didnt show this is because he knew we would be intimidated by Diavolos massive dick and would automatically start routing for him in fear of what he would do to us with his 30 foot long schlong

    • @maxgoose707
      @maxgoose707 4 роки тому +152

      Tacokat Gaming no wonderhe had a daughter

    • @maxgoose707
      @maxgoose707 4 роки тому +56

      @@nameistanya your welcome, random stranger

    • @GameBreaker1055
      @GameBreaker1055 4 роки тому +49

      @@StormSurge-dr2fl But what if... Diavolo strips during the time that was skipped?
      Will he then see his clothes phasing of his body while moving?

  • @tescomealdeal9901
    @tescomealdeal9901 4 роки тому +3054

    Why didn’t Secco get his 5 Sugar Cubes and Backscratches?

  • @antholarenzi932
    @antholarenzi932 3 роки тому +166

    The footprint thing is actually genius: she softened the land instinctively.

  • @user-co3uc8vt7e
    @user-co3uc8vt7e 3 роки тому +768

    Ideas: gruesome deaths of humans and animals, body horror, villains with warped psyche
    Araki: "This never gets old!"
    Idea: Fugo betrays his friends
    Araki: "I can't T_T"

    • @pancakes8816
      @pancakes8816 2 роки тому +192

      I get what you mean, but maybe it hit a little too close to home for what he was dealing with at the time. But who knows

    • @CrystallizedBlackSkull
      @CrystallizedBlackSkull 2 роки тому +147

      Understandable if he was depressed at the time. I have no issues with making villains even if i'm depressed but when it comes to thinking of family members? Especially when Passione gang really felt like a family? Man I can understand why it'd tug on him

    • @emblemblade9245
      @emblemblade9245 2 роки тому +102

      Apparently all of part 5’s turned up gore and dark moments were influenced by his depressed state at the time, but writing the more positive and hopeful moments also helped him get through it

    • @suezuccati304
      @suezuccati304 2 роки тому +46

      Aka, Araki is wholesome and values friendship a lot

    • @waffler-yz3gw
      @waffler-yz3gw Рік тому +8

      @@pancakes8816 this actually is why he decided against it

  • @john-man3152
    @john-man3152 3 роки тому +1844

    Character: *Makes an assertion about how something works.*
    People: "That character definitely has perfect knowledge of the entire universe."

    • @crystalalumina
      @crystalalumina 3 роки тому +136

      @@kaistzar2831 but the thing is that, Kakyoin was right about J.Geil's stand, but that was just situational and that happens in a lot of stories, it wasn't an explanation about the world they're in, it was an explanation about J.Geil's stand, so it shouldn't be applied for everything else.

    • @mrreyes5004
      @mrreyes5004 3 роки тому +63

      @@crystalalumina Indeed. Kakyoin saying that Hanged Man didn't use a mirror world only applied to the Hanged Man fight; it wasn't so much that a mirror world was too ridiculous to believe, it was that all Stands must have a weakness (even Gold Experience Requiem, however unknown and mysterious it may be) and Hanged Man attacking from a mirror world would make it invincible and so that idea was out. If Kakyoin had been there for the Man in The Mirror fight in Part 5, he most likely would have concluded that the Stand did in fact use a mirror world and/or not been much surprised by it since Man in The Mirror can't attack directly from reflections like Hanged Man on top of Man in The Mirror being much physically weaker than Hanged Man and so it using a mirror world would not make it invincible.

    • @dezkoke
      @dezkoke 2 роки тому +8

      its a way of narrating certain rules or aspects of a fictional universe lol. so yes jotaro saying that someone cant be revived after they've already died is true.

    • @dooplon5083
      @dooplon5083 2 роки тому +26

      @@dezkoke Yes, but the difference is that Jotaro has a decade of experience with stands by then, so of course we treat his statement more like he's an authority.

    • @ChangedMyNameFinally69
      @ChangedMyNameFinally69 2 роки тому +3

      In the world of online criticism characters can't be wrong or make mistakes

  • @gutsxwc7615
    @gutsxwc7615 4 роки тому +3911

    Actually, Araki forgot something.
    In part 5, when Giorno meets other gang members, Abbachio is shown making piss tea. However, later when Narancia was trying to get gang members away from the water (Clash stand part) by pissing into the toilet, Abbachio was shown disgusted by that and he even called Narancia pervert. Clearly, Araki forgot that Abbachio was *the true pervert*

    • @zaikox4042
      @zaikox4042 4 роки тому +156

      another thing, I never understood why giorno never created a new body for Bruno

    • @MarkFaraday
      @MarkFaraday 4 роки тому +59

      Zaiko x maybe he did not have anything to use

    • @zaikox4042
      @zaikox4042 4 роки тому +40

      @Cruthadair well, I dont if that is how it works but giorno did something like that when narancia died

    • @liviupetre9561
      @liviupetre9561 4 роки тому +195

      @@zaikox4042 Because Bruno chose to go to heaven, cause his life already ended.

    • @sasaider3711
      @sasaider3711 4 роки тому +35

      @@zaikox4042 Man are you serious?

  • @mikelippenkrans5297
    @mikelippenkrans5297 Рік тому +117

    JoJo fans: Araki is so dumb he always forgets things
    Also JoJo fans: why didn't they all just get inside the mini fridge

  • @themirrorgem2069
    @themirrorgem2069 2 роки тому +100

    Imagine going from a dude who turned money into butterflies to steal em to a Mob Boss in 8 days.

  • @yoshikagekira564
    @yoshikagekira564 4 роки тому +1789

    It’s weird to think that this part only lasted 8 in universe days

  • @da_pikmin_coder8367
    @da_pikmin_coder8367 4 роки тому +2551

    I've never understood how Fugo leaving is considered an "Araki Forgot". He didn't mysteriously disappear, he was given an extremely blatant and clear sendoff. I don't understand why anyone would expect to return afterwards. Hell, a majority of these debunked "Araki Forgot" moments are simply how something wasn't frequently brought up again.

    • @francescolombardi3438
      @francescolombardi3438 4 роки тому +127

      Purple Haze: Do people REALLY want to see me licking myself?!

    • @mizxd7775
      @mizxd7775 4 роки тому +262

      Da_Pikmin_Coder Yeah, and the reason Fugo left was really sensible if you think about it, the flashback said Fugo has a really high IQ, and because of that he put facts logic and his intelligence at the fore front and decided that continuing on journey with his friends would be unfavourable, simple as that. (His big brain was right btw, if he did continue he would have probably died along with narancia and abacchio.)

    • @joshuagraham5750
      @joshuagraham5750 4 роки тому +15

      Da_Pikmin_Coder Araki had the plans for golden heart golden rings (correct the name) for quite a while but couldn’t bring himself to write it.

    • @HarmonyParuko
      @HarmonyParuko 4 роки тому +42

      i personally used "Araki forgot Fugo" as a joke. Its just funny to think about, but not actually being serious.

    • @noba04
      @noba04 4 роки тому +167

      its more of the fact that people are so attached to the standard modern anime cliches/tropes which makes them expect good guy Fugo to return at the last minute and save the day because he apparently changed his mind one day

  • @T-MOTH
    @T-MOTH 3 роки тому +209

    The mirror thing can be explained simply by saying that Araki limited himself way too much in stand abilities in part 3. Part 3 stands were always really practical and set in stone, which would make for boring future parts. So as he grew as a writer, the limits in part 3 slowly disappeared. It's more of Kakyoin not knowing how complex stands can be because all he's seen from stands so far was stuff like "fire", "sword", "punch good", "gun", etc. There's a reason he reacted with "how can this be" when he learned that The World can stop time.

    • @dopaminecloud
      @dopaminecloud Рік тому +4

      feel like you're downplaying how strong of a start to stands part 3 was

    • @Jiub_SN
      @Jiub_SN Рік тому +14

      Stands weren't that simple, you could say 4 for stands were fix, erase, sound, blow up, hair etc and that dumbs them down just as much. Taking avdols stand as an example, his fire wasn't actual fire. His fire could burn with no oxygen, could bind as though it was a rope, he could detect heat coming from living things and far more. You're seriously underselling part 3's stands, after all, jotaro stands ability wasn't punch good, it was speed and precision which naturally fit time stop as his ability. Stands have weaknesses, and hanged man's was obviously that he wasn't actually untouchable in a mirror dimension, just as dio and jotaro a weakness is that their timestop is limited, or diavolos is that he is still bound to fate when not erasing time. Get it?

  • @mattwo7
    @mattwo7 2 роки тому +89

    10:12 I don't see how anyone could be confused about this when Bucciarati _clearly_ said he was dead, basically a zombie, albeit one not immune to the effects of rigor mortis.

  • @caihly2443
    @caihly2443 4 роки тому +3043

    I love how some people think that the characters having 1000IQ is not enough, and that they should be absolutely omniscient by knowing the existence of a parallel world in mirrors that can only be entered via a single stand

    • @BooguyTheAdept
      @BooguyTheAdept 4 роки тому +255

      Like, Kakyoin is not Araki. Why he shouldn't be wrong?

    • @DarrianDaiko
      @DarrianDaiko 4 роки тому +160

      @@BooguyTheAdept how can Kakyoin be wrong ? Everyone knows that Emerald Splash has NEVER be dodged/reflected !

    • @aabeeek
      @aabeeek 4 роки тому +121

      Seriously, if someone actually considers mirror world an "Araki forgot" then they are probably -1000IQ.

    • @filipmoravcik1506
      @filipmoravcik1506 4 роки тому +13

      It is definitely not an Araki forgot, but it is a very weird thing for Kakyoin to say. Like, he has no reason to even think that

    • @juicejooos
      @juicejooos 4 роки тому +92

      @@filipmoravcik1506 Why though? Kakyoin is a very rational person, thinking things through clear-mindedly. The concept of a mystical "mirror-world" was too much of a stretch for it to be real, in his mind. The stand had to have a weakness, and the existence of a mirror world would have only made it stronger.
      But then again, there is an actual mirror world thanks to Man in the Mirror, so Kakyoin was actually wrong. I think it would be interesting to see if he would've figured it out if put against Illuso.
      Ironically, Kakyoin usually ends up making things worse for himself by acting like he does, logical and all.

  • @quinn7520
    @quinn7520 4 роки тому +4844

    imagine being in court and winning then they bring in Hamon Beat

  • @jrsiv4462
    @jrsiv4462 3 роки тому +289

    Araki: Doesn’t bring back an element supposed to be phased out
    The audience: Wow. What a big plot hole. I can’t believe Araki forgot.

    • @MechanicalRabbits
      @MechanicalRabbits 2 роки тому +30

      Not necessarily a plot hole, but doing that too often can be considered bad writing. As a storyteller you want to be creating setups that then pay off later on. Part 5 introduced many ideas that end up nowhere or feel abandoned. Giorno's stand abilities feel like they got reworked halfway through the manga, you have two initial fights where it's established what his stand can do (Bruno and shovel guy), and then he never takes advantage of neither of those properties through the rest of the story. It doesn't matter if it can be explained in canon like Hamon Beat did, it's still a very weird choice as a writer. Introducing him as Dio's son and then not doing anything with that is also a questionable choice. Araki has shown he can do much better than this, other parts are much more consistent with themselves, but I guess it makes sense since he was going through a rough time while writing Vento Aureo.

    • @tanyaharmon6739
      @tanyaharmon6739 2 роки тому +37

      @@MechanicalRabbits His whole personality and the way he caculates and excutes his plans is because of Dio, lmao. His cold calm demanor show his Dio side while his sense justice come from his joestar side. Also, his abilities arent forgotten, lol. His his abilitie is life manipulation is used thorghout the part

  • @cumbrap
    @cumbrap 3 роки тому +245

    0:27 fuck yeah second place, finally some appreciation for part 4

    • @shinkenger2011
      @shinkenger2011 3 роки тому +4

      Why hello, Digby.

    • @moderncrusader1150
      @moderncrusader1150 3 роки тому +8

      And Part 5 in first place. I love Japan.

    • @roserose109
      @roserose109 3 роки тому +1

      wtf, i didn't expect _you_ to be here lol

    • @shinkenger2011
      @shinkenger2011 3 роки тому +3

      @Byleth Eisner I don’t disagree, but I think part of that is due to the anime. A lot of fans only went for memeing it rather (be it lovingly, ragging on it, or both) than paying closer attention until they saw Part Pizza in a more mainstream, expected format. Naturally, everyone will be drawn to that like Aerosmiths to a flame, and the parr’s detractors lightened up significantly or even started liking it.
      So what I’m saying is: _heheh yeah um Stone Ocean prolly gonna be overrated too, friend._

    • @Kuriboh1008
      @Kuriboh1008 3 роки тому +6

      Part 4 is 1 of the best parts if not the best

  • @andrelee7081
    @andrelee7081 4 роки тому +951

    Plot hole: Lots of villains end up running away at times, even though it's supposed to be a technique unique to the Joestar bloodline /s

    • @pandasmith321
      @pandasmith321 4 роки тому +74

      The only un-debunkable Araki Forgot

    • @lakshaykochhar9802
      @lakshaykochhar9802 4 роки тому +23

      Shit! Here i was thinking that Hamon beat's analysis, has no weakness but now i think, he should give up.

    • @WednesdayMan
      @WednesdayMan 4 роки тому +17

      explanation: Joseph calls it the Joestar Family Technique.
      however it's a technique, not some bloodline exclusive ability, as we've seen many people in JoJo part 1 use running other than Jonathan Joestar.

    • @thenightjackal
      @thenightjackal 4 роки тому +32

      And this concludes my 16 page thesis on why Diavolo is Giorno's third cousin.

    • @diooverheaven6561
      @diooverheaven6561 4 роки тому +4

      @@moisttowlettes6532 no it was i DIO who showed this tactic to mafia

  • @asswipe8062
    @asswipe8062 4 роки тому +3275

    Small brain: Araki forgot that Giorno can bring back Abbachio
    Big brain: Abbachio didn't have the resolve to come back to his body
    Galaxy brain: Abbachio was too mad that Giorno was the one who brought him back, despite him being the only one who could

    • @Yahirplaysminecraft
      @Yahirplaysminecraft 3 роки тому +229

      I thought it was because it was already too late. Like giorno has a short window in time to do the "revival".

    • @Yahirplaysminecraft
      @Yahirplaysminecraft 3 роки тому +31

      @zzz43452 RIGHT! I forgot about that... but yeah if rolling stones never happened that would be my reason.

    • @rbrachy2518
      @rbrachy2518 3 роки тому +133

      @@Yahirplaysminecraft yeah, and wasn’t the whole scene of Abbachio moving on with his old partner seen right before they found his body?

    • @Yahirplaysminecraft
      @Yahirplaysminecraft 3 роки тому +12

      @@rbrachy2518 probably

    • @kishorsreenivasan8680
      @kishorsreenivasan8680 3 роки тому +60

      Thing is abbachio died instantly and it was too late to revive him

  • @neroisntdead3681
    @neroisntdead3681 3 роки тому +161

    "Oh no, I can't tell if diavolo skipped time or not with this blood in my eyes"

    • @Spectre.0001
      @Spectre.0001 2 роки тому +16

      I think this was more to ensure a clean kill with no chance of resistance

    • @bismarckimperia8781
      @bismarckimperia8781 Рік тому +10

      I mean its an effective method to make sure the target wont be able to react in a span of 2 seconds in which is enough for King Crimson to kill the target.

  • @Someone-em8xd
    @Someone-em8xd 3 роки тому +83

    The reason Bruno came back to life wasn't because of resolve or because of the fact that giorno healed him it was simply because mista changed the rolling stones' shape meaning that he changed bruno's fate, however that only allowed bruno to live a tad bit longer and also led abbachio and narancia to their deaths. That's my take on this

    • @StellarStarGaming
      @StellarStarGaming 2 роки тому +2

      Same but Abit different

    • @Jay0Kayo
      @Jay0Kayo 2 роки тому +20

      Same. I thought the whole point of Sleeping Slaves arc was to explain Bruno not dying (+some philosophy about fate) and it hurts me everytime people ignore it in their explanations.

    • @bismarckimperia8781
      @bismarckimperia8781 Рік тому +2

      Yeah, fate being manipulated prolonged his fate though even that small change killed 2 people.

    • @Jiub_SN
      @Jiub_SN Рік тому +1

      @@Jay0Kayo no the og comment and this are wrong, Bruno's fate was his death against Rolling Stones, Mista changed that so he'd live a bit longer resulting in Abbachio and narancia deaths as this would cause giorno to meet Bruno and cause part 5s events, hence why it was a prequel to them meeting giorno. Don't really understand how that's not super obvious lmao

    • @A_Dennis
      @A_Dennis 5 місяців тому

      ⁠​⁠@@Jiub_SNyou are wrong. His fate was getting his chest punctured by king crimson. There’s literally a page of the artist bringing up that detail. Chapter 153 page 12.

  • @sadplatinum6786
    @sadplatinum6786 4 роки тому +666

    The one about Dio’s photo seems weird to me, because all throughout Part 3 we see Dio constantly pose that exact same way numerous times, so it’s not a stretch to suggest this is just a photo of Dio in his favorite pose

    • @Omnirok12
      @Omnirok12 4 роки тому +114

      he just really likes showing off that joestar birthmark

    • @raidenthenctzenwithinsomni4961
      @raidenthenctzenwithinsomni4961 4 роки тому +51

      Even Giorno himself does the pose in the Giorno version of Traitor's Requiem.

    • @Davesothoth
      @Davesothoth 4 роки тому +16

      Who even took the photo? How did Giorno get it? Did Dio sign it?

    • @Omnirok12
      @Omnirok12 4 роки тому +47

      @@Davesothoth the most sensible and obvious answer would be his mom

    • @schmeckoh
      @schmeckoh 4 роки тому +9

      @@Davesothoth Yes and its a photo given to DIO's mistress (Giorno's mother)

  • @jamesa.7549
    @jamesa.7549 4 роки тому +1921

    Man in the Mirror is basically just the stand equivalent to the "You're going to the shadow realm jimbo" meme. Change my mind

    • @LonesomeKrow
      @LonesomeKrow 4 роки тому +66

      James A Sellers
      Person: *exists*
      Man in the Mirror: *”looks like you’re going to the shadow realm, Jimbo.”*

    • @justanothernerd8338
      @justanothernerd8338 4 роки тому +22

      "your going in the mirror realm jimbo."

    • @FancyMcSchmancy
      @FancyMcSchmancy 4 роки тому +11

      The worst part is that he’s right.

    • @Magic_Ice
      @Magic_Ice 4 роки тому +6

      No that’s Cream

    • @triangulum8869
      @triangulum8869 4 роки тому

      C R E A M

  • @forte6365
    @forte6365 2 роки тому +39

    Why didnt Kira use the death note once he found out Divolos real name? Yeah that's what I thought Oda is hack writer and Berserks Bizarre Adventure should've ended at part 3

  • @LincolnsDementure
    @LincolnsDementure 2 роки тому +110

    Fun fact but the whole “tasting lies” thing actually has some truth to it, because when the body lies or undergoes something that gives them anxiety they’re body produces chemicals that can make sweat taste a bit different to regular sweat from kinetic energy!

    • @timothyryan8983
      @timothyryan8983 2 роки тому +1

      And the flavour is briefly salty.

    • @therealhippo
      @therealhippo Рік тому +6

      @@timothyryan8983 All sweat is salty though.

    • @PetitPoneyDuVercors26
      @PetitPoneyDuVercors26 Рік тому +2

      Yes the cold sweat (huge stress) often smells different too
      Since it goes out more faster the smell created by bacterias on the skin is different than the hot sweat, and the chemicals into the sweat are different too yes...
      Two of my coworkers have a quite strong distinct smell sometimes, we all sweat it's physical work but they are especially anxious, (and in a nursing home the stress situations are frequent, we have some old lady that have panic attacks, if you're anxious that's really hard to face it, it's stressful) so when I notice it I don't just tell they stink it won't help them at all to just shower, I ask if they need to talk or take few minutes of calm...
      I sweat a lot in summer, shower works for me, but if you smell because of anxiety's cold sweat it's useless if the source of stress is still active on you

    • @ashrithapreshand1310
      @ashrithapreshand1310 Рік тому +4

      Can't wait to try this irl

  • @un_id5775
    @un_id5775 3 роки тому +2730

    Another big Araki Forgot moment is when the gang in Part 5 did the torture dance. Like they never used it again, it would have been a great distraction for some of the fights.

    • @tnterrarian9997
      @tnterrarian9997 3 роки тому +304

      ikr, the squadra would've stopped fighting and started dancing with them, perfect for a surprise attack!

    • @okboomerbutitsacat8050
      @okboomerbutitsacat8050 3 роки тому +36

      Who else would they use it against tho?
      It's a torture dance.

    • @tnterrarian9997
      @tnterrarian9997 3 роки тому +74

      @@okboomerbutitsacat8050 go back to sleep boomer cat, maybe when you wake up you'll get the joke

    • @okboomerbutitsacat8050
      @okboomerbutitsacat8050 3 роки тому +8

      @@tnterrarian9997 I mean I get that your joke was a fucking joke, I'm not mentally retarded m8, it's just that the first comment isn't worded in a way or written in a way that would make it seem like sarcasm or a joke.

    • @okboomerbutitsacat8050
      @okboomerbutitsacat8050 3 роки тому

      @bacon froyo I mean yeah, that's fair, but like there's no one to use it against

  • @hudo1167
    @hudo1167 4 роки тому +4603

    Nazis in 1939: make a cyborg
    Polnareff in 2001: uses a wheelchair

    • @ultimatetrashboy419
      @ultimatetrashboy419 4 роки тому +978

      Работаем that’s because German science is the finest in the world

    • @VGamingJunkieVT
      @VGamingJunkieVT 4 роки тому +513

      Lousy French Science isn’t all it’s cracked up to be.

    • @mrreyes5004
      @mrreyes5004 4 роки тому +397

      The weird part is that Polnareff actually *_was_* a cyborg; his legs were so injured that they were replaced with metal prosthetics, yet for some reason he still takes to using a wheelchair despite metal being naturally much stronger than flesh and bone.

    • @attarhakeemaa
      @attarhakeemaa 4 роки тому +193

      YOU UTTER FOOL!!! German science is the best in the world!!

    • @beatsbyelvis6890
      @beatsbyelvis6890 4 роки тому +220

      MrReyes 500 I hope you’re kidding. it’s reasonable to assume his spine was shattered. no prosthetic leg will make you walk again if your spinal cord is severed.

  • @SaltExarch
    @SaltExarch Рік тому +41

    Another thing about Koichi is that, as directly mentioned in the manga, Jotaro directly mentions Echos. We've seen Koichi using Act 1 to scout multiple times for the Morioh gang and he has one of the longest-range Stands of anyone we know Jotaro is associated with. So not only does Jotaro consider him reliable and capable, but his stand's perfect for the kind of search/reconnaissance job Jotaro is asking about.

    • @DahHourglass
      @DahHourglass Рік тому

      Echos evolved into act 3 he cant switch. Back can he?

    • @SaltExarch
      @SaltExarch Рік тому +13

      @@DahHourglass Echoes has always been able to switch between forms. We see him use Act 1 to scout multiple times even after getting Act 2 and Act 3, and in fact in the Part 5 manga he's actively shown searching for Giorno with Act 1 after he gets his suitcase stolen, but this scene was not shown in the anime.

    • @jolyne1541
      @jolyne1541 Рік тому +1

      No!!! Kakyoin has the longest range stand and IS associated with Jotaro🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 araki just forgot about kakyoin

    • @SaltExarch
      @SaltExarch Рік тому +2

      ​@@jolyne1541 I'm assuming this is a joke, but on the off-chance it isn't (or at least for people who come read this comment section later and take it seriously, because that is known to happen with Jojo fans): Echoes Act 1 has a range of 50 meters, whereas Kakyoin's Hierophant Green has a maximum range of 20 meters with his famous 20 meter Emerald Splash, so even if Kakyoin was still alive during Part 5 (which he wasn't, making him irrelevant to the conversation anyway), Koichi would still outrange him.

    • @Jiub_SN
      @Jiub_SN Рік тому

      @@SaltExarch bro ok pal, if your so smart why didn't jotaro tell Avdol to go???? Avdol can burn tress which is one of giornos abilities so he makes much more sense!!!! ARAKI FORGOT!!!! 🤬😡

  • @snowtenkey118
    @snowtenkey118 2 роки тому +36

    another thing with bucciarati not being able to liar taste narancia is the fact that in that point of time, he may not have his sense of taste with his dying body

  • @sheipi9978
    @sheipi9978 4 роки тому +1483

    Fun fact: giorno's accelerating punches have a very specific sound effect that plays everytime he uses it. This sound effect is also played during the beggining of the seven page muda

    • @ChoaiDode
      @ChoaiDode 3 роки тому +80

      So that’s what that was

    • @sasdagreat8052
      @sasdagreat8052 3 роки тому +82

      The chocolate guy deserved it.

    • @typo691
      @typo691 3 роки тому +4

      @@sasdagreat8052 who are you

    • @sasdagreat8052
      @sasdagreat8052 3 роки тому +34

      @@typo691 Mate who're *you*

    • @ciape7547
      @ciape7547 3 роки тому +2

      @@typo691 ??? What???

  • @waspywasp451
    @waspywasp451 4 роки тому +727

    I would say the DIO picture wasn't an error as much as a throwback. However, it can still be explained by "Oh, this is just how DIO likes to take his pictures"
    This would make sense, as we know DIO LOVES showing off Jonathan's body, so it's natural to get the most recognisable part of it in the picture

    • @Trans4Hire
      @Trans4Hire 4 роки тому +245

      I like to think that Joseph just took so many spirit photos of dio that he ended up selling them

    • @josemanuelrodriguez401
      @josemanuelrodriguez401 4 роки тому +151

      @@Trans4Hire Sounds like a Joseph thing to do.

    • @fran-wk3nq
      @fran-wk3nq 4 роки тому +67

      @@Trans4Hire Joseph is secretly Dio's fanboy

    • @VictorIV0310
      @VictorIV0310 4 роки тому +105

      I thought Giorno’s mom snapped a pic of him after sex.

    • @goggles8691
      @goggles8691 4 роки тому +30

      @@Trans4Hire people would pay a ton since DIO is hot

  • @D_YellowMadness
    @D_YellowMadness 3 роки тому +49

    Wow. Imagine taking all those punches Cioccolata took but in slow motion. He deserves it but damn.

    • @ivana4216
      @ivana4216 3 роки тому +2

      Doe i don't think he got more than a few before loosing his conciusness, just remember when Bruno thought he could die at a second punch just for the impact of the slow pain

    • @thecoolerjohnny7742
      @thecoolerjohnny7742 3 роки тому +5

      @@ivana4216 yea but all the punches that landed on ciocolatta were fucking up his mind soooo yea he probably just went blank since he couldn’t take it anymore

  • @Jacob-df5hr
    @Jacob-df5hr Рік тому +30

    I didn't realize Golden Wind was disliked, I think it's excellent, probably the best. The antagonist is interesting and compelling, Doppio is a fantastic character, JoJo works well as a mystery serial and that's as true here as in Diamond is Unbreakable, and I really enjoyed Giorno: he has the levelheaded, analytical, calmness under pressure that Jotaro has, while being much more emotionally available and tender to his friends. Bucciarati is a titan of a supporting character and gets closer to snatching the protagonist role away from the titular character than any other, and he does this not by force but by simply being extremely likeable, competent, and noble. I also thought Golden Wind was great as a stand ability because it's not a brute force stand like SP, and this opens up a lot of moments for creativity in fights. Great part. I just wish Giorno would pop up again somewhere.

  • @savvassavvides6681
    @savvassavvides6681 4 роки тому +5000

    Why didn't Jotaro use star finger to kill Diavolo?

  • @elpoyo8062
    @elpoyo8062 4 роки тому +1300

    Love how most of the Araki forgot moments were just fans forgetting things

    • @zaqareemalcolm
      @zaqareemalcolm 4 роки тому +172

      Broke: Araki forgot
      Woke: *Araki's audience forgot*

    • @lonerscandream2019
      @lonerscandream2019 4 роки тому +86

      I once explained to a some guy that araki didn't actually forget and he got really defensive about how bad araki is at remembering and that I'm just excusing bad writing even though that's not the case

    • @zaqareemalcolm
      @zaqareemalcolm 4 роки тому +70

      @@lonerscandream2019 oh man jojolion is basically a big middle finger to "araki forgot" lmao

    • @honeykrisp16
      @honeykrisp16 4 роки тому +2

      Oh the irony

    • @elpoyo8062
      @elpoyo8062 4 роки тому +46

      zaqareemalcolm people who say Araki forgot things in JoJolion are morons. The part isn't completed yet, of course not everything has been brought up.

  • @rhombus4786
    @rhombus4786 3 роки тому +35

    You know we could just say that every "forgotten part" was just D4C screwing with us

  • @bathilra5364
    @bathilra5364 Рік тому +16

    A simpler explanation for man in the mirror is it has never been said Kakyoin is an expert on mirror stands

  • @joule400
    @joule400 4 роки тому +438

    Also pointing out on silver charriot throwing polnareff, stands have been called manifestations of ones fighting spirit, against cream polnareff had already mentally given up so itd make sense for his stand to be weaker too

    • @-_Ella_--wk9ej
      @-_Ella_--wk9ej 4 роки тому

      that's part 3, not 5

    • @amethystgoblin5950
      @amethystgoblin5950 4 роки тому +35

      @@-_Ella_--wk9ej uh, so?

    • @duck3892
      @duck3892 4 роки тому +10

      @@nameistanya the araki forgot part refers to vanilla ice fight dumbass. It mentions SC not being able to yeet polpol but it can yeet chairnareff in part 5

    • @spiderflame04
      @spiderflame04 4 роки тому +3

      I forgot the scene where Chariot holds Polnareff up existed, so I figured that since Chariot can interact with objects, he can throw the wheelchair that Polnareff just so happened to be on, but not interact with Polnareff directly

    • @GameBreaker1055
      @GameBreaker1055 4 роки тому +20

      @@spiderflame04 Oh no. Stands can totally interact with their users.
      Both Jotaro and Josuke use that to hold od on to edges and pull themselves up.

  • @precious_shun
    @precious_shun 4 роки тому +1312

    JoJo Fans: "ARAKI FORGOT THIS AND THAT!"
    Araki: *sweat nervously staring at Hamon Beat*
    Hamon Beat: "Fine, I'll do it myelf"

    • @FieryMeltman
      @FieryMeltman 4 роки тому +50

      I know you're joking, but it's more likely that Araki feels he doesn't need to waste his time doing that himself.

    • @thelastmlg2699
      @thelastmlg2699 4 роки тому +56

      @@FieryMeltman or he just doesn't care and takes it as a joke

    • @rorrim0
      @rorrim0 4 роки тому +44

      @@thelastmlg2699 if Araki forgot is mostly a western thing then yeah he probably doesn't care. Dont think Japan cares about the overseas market as much as westerners do.

    • @ellisroper3201
      @ellisroper3201 4 роки тому +2

      @@Super_Suchi A character isn't a plot point though, unless you're suggesting that Launch was important to the plot of Dragon Ball only to suddenly disappear and the plot around her to become unfinished.

    • @mithmoonwalker
      @mithmoonwalker 4 роки тому +1

      *gives araki comfort blanket*

  • @turtleduck5118
    @turtleduck5118 3 роки тому +31

    Thank you. Every time I see someone say that Araki wrote Fugo out because he was too OP I die a little inside.

  • @snowboundwhale6860
    @snowboundwhale6860 3 роки тому +26

    Another part to the dropped Fugo betrayal arc that's probably been mentioned before somewhere, it's probably worth noting some very specific similarities between the nature of Fugo's *[Purple Haze]* and Chocolotta's *[Green Day]* , particularly the part where both of their abilities are highly lethal, (virus/ mold) cloud AoE attacks that cannot be seen until they're already taking effect, and which turn the victims and their corpses into a carrier to spread their respective plagues further beyond their stand's own reach.

  • @driveghost9499
    @driveghost9499 3 роки тому +2022

    I like how people always point to Jotaro saying "No StAnD cAn ReViVe ThE dEaD", assuming that Jotaro apparently knows about every single Stand in the World, and every STand that has and will exist, as if Jotaro has some kind of Stand Dictionary that lets him know about every Stand. =-=

    • @bekrox64
      @bekrox64 3 роки тому +105

      ikr, like people can't be wrong now i guess?

    • @averonisgaming9023
      @averonisgaming9023 3 роки тому +234

      Honestly, its the same thing as hearing a false rumor and spreading it around. These characters only know as much as you do

    • @anotherks7297
      @anotherks7297 3 роки тому +84

      I'm 100% percent sure there is a term for this in writing. The author wants to establish a continuity without the bringing about of some godlike entity, so they have the character say it in some scene.

    • @Misanthropolis
      @Misanthropolis 3 роки тому +112

      @@anotherks7297 I love how Stands can't revive yet they can literally reset the universe (Made in Heaven). So the line is drawn at resurrection, and resetting the universe, which indirectly revives people, is apparently nothing too serious.

    • @srwugrihf6566788jkij
      @srwugrihf6566788jkij 3 роки тому +62

      @@Misanthropolis in fact Made in Heaven doesn't kill and doesn't revive anyone. It is clearly shown in the manga, I don't understand how this fake news came out

  • @alexstach8667
    @alexstach8667 3 роки тому +1120

    Its weird how people think that everything that was said in part 3 is basically a fact and not just a speculation by the character.
    Kakyoin may think that there is no "mirror world" but it doesnt mean that he cant be wrong. Same goes for Jotaros quote about reviving the dead.

    • @ivana4216
      @ivana4216 3 роки тому +27

      With Jotaro it's not like that because he is not assuming. He is a profesional, and at the end of the day he is 100% right.

    • @Wezlii530
      @Wezlii530 3 роки тому +123

      @@ivana4216 so jotaro should’ve also known who pucci was and where dio was and who Kira was and knew everything about their stand

    • @Rhobeni
      @Rhobeni 3 роки тому +42

      They point back to these quotes like their facts but I’m pretty sure Kakyoin and Jotaro have the JoJo wiki on standby. Also about the mirror world how tf would he know about man in the mirror when it’s literally over a decade later

    • @BingusLover-yx7vf
      @BingusLover-yx7vf 3 роки тому +6

      @@Wezlii530 my theory is that it was because of the dio diary as dio probably wrote something about fate and how spirits work and at the end of the day he is correct and he probably did research on stands in the meantime

    • @surpriseiwasanimpostor1258
      @surpriseiwasanimpostor1258 3 роки тому +6

      Jotaro in part 4:No stand can revive people
      Also Jotaro in part 3:Revives Joseph
      Me:Bruh

  • @dungww2006
    @dungww2006 2 роки тому +29

    How did Giorno convince Passione that he killed Diavolo and could take his position if nobody knew the identity of the boss?

    • @CrazyDiamond13332
      @CrazyDiamond13332 2 роки тому +21

      He had Trish who was known to be the daughter of diavolo, also I think no one would question him since he has one of the strongest stands.

    • @user-sm8us5yt9h
      @user-sm8us5yt9h 2 роки тому +14

      After not hearing from the boss for a couple weeks people would realize the boss died.

    • @TheAzulmagia
      @TheAzulmagia Рік тому +24

      He doesn't need to convince anybody of anything. Nobody knew who Diavolo was. Giorno could just say that he was the boss all along. Who's going to be able to prove otherwise?

    • @rjofusetsudzin8011
      @rjofusetsudzin8011 Рік тому +1

      Giorno is literally god at the end of the part 5. He will just muda muda everyone who disagrees he is the boss now. With GER he doenst need to be afraid of rivals or assasinations.

    • @dreamcream3738
      @dreamcream3738 10 місяців тому +4

      ​@@rjofusetsudzin8011that, and the three most powerful (known) groups in Passione were handled.
      La Squadra is dead
      Team Bucciarati is loyal to Giorno
      La Unita Especiale is dead.
      Giorno was able to fill the power vacuum

  • @it6647
    @it6647 Рік тому +13

    0:42-Koichi reliable
    1:21-Giorno's photo
    1:34-Life shot
    2:43-Damage reflection
    3:40-Polpo munches on fingers
    4:11-Kraft work freezes relatively
    4:40-Mirror world exists?
    5:37-Stand-People interaction
    5:52-Mista survives gunshots
    6:10-Trish's hand print
    6:35-Cloned Coco Jumbo
    7:01-HOW DOES KING CRIMSON WORK?!?!?!
    10:12-Bucciarati's posthumous existence
    11:31-Fugo
    12:11-Talking head
    13:39-Doppio vs Risotto
    14:02-Why didn't Giorno revive Abbachio
    14:21-Stand-Object interaction
    15:02-Demonic birth
    15:35-Did Jotaro know about arrows?
    16:13-Chariot can't hold up Polnareff
    16:40-Activating Requiem

  • @kalderanx3750
    @kalderanx3750 4 роки тому +544

    3:52 it wasn’t just SOME of his fingers, it was those EXACT SAME fingers. That were lost by the lead guitarist

    • @footlover9416
      @footlover9416 4 роки тому +5

      this comment should be higher up

    • @urosmaric4329
      @urosmaric4329 4 роки тому +1

      Just say Tony Iommi

    • @damporing7558
      @damporing7558 4 роки тому +1

      Imagine Polpo just spitting out the top of his finger and just gluing it on

    • @shizotypical
      @shizotypical 4 роки тому +11

      so Araki cares more about Polpo's fingers matching a real-life inspiration than for Polnareff's lost fingers matching those from part 3? yay.

    • @damporing7558
      @damporing7558 4 роки тому +1

      @@shizotypical to be fair, all his limbs except for his right arm didn't come back, you know, except for his left arm which did make a return

  • @chrysalismacosmist165
    @chrysalismacosmist165 4 роки тому +848

    I honestly thought Tris has a dinosaur for a stand when the claw mark on the ground happened.

    • @jessbian
      @jessbian 3 роки тому +194

      Diego Brando: **looks aside and whistles**

    • @uuuuuuuuuuuuuuu5323
      @uuuuuuuuuuuuuuu5323 3 роки тому +77

      and i thought that she was going to have a stand with fire powers as the ground where the mark was looked scorched

    • @moderncrusader1150
      @moderncrusader1150 3 роки тому +27

      A difference between your expectation of her power being wrong and Araki actually forgetting

    • @helios6371
      @helios6371 3 роки тому +25

      Scary monsters

    • @peenyyt4921
      @peenyyt4921 3 роки тому +5

      @@moderncrusader1150 you think purple haze feedback is canon you don’t get to speak about other people being wrong

  • @sicksabre
    @sicksabre 2 роки тому +20

    Part 5 was far and away my favorite part. (Though I'm in the middle of Part 6 so we'll see) It's kinda ridiculous how many long-standing fandom feelings about Part 5 are based in misconceptions and misunderstandings from bad translations and readers just straight up not paying attention to what's happening.

    • @spark_197
      @spark_197 4 місяці тому

      Is it still ur favourite

  • @thepriorstone4064
    @thepriorstone4064 3 роки тому +19

    I think I can appreciate Part 5 more with a 2nd watch. The first time through was super confusing and things just sort of happened, but with context, I think it makes a lot more sense, ESPECIALLY King Crimson

  • @shinkenger2011
    @shinkenger2011 3 роки тому +3893

    Plot hole: this takes place in Italy, yet every character does _not_ begin a sentence with “mamma mia, pasta pizza, nyoho~” until part 7
    Araki forgot how italy works

    • @hermitfan_363
      @hermitfan_363 3 роки тому +114

      and 👌this

    • @shinkenger2011
      @shinkenger2011 3 роки тому +151

      @@hermitfan_363 plot hole: Black Sabbath kills Mario/Luigi, but they already died back in part 3 ova smh

    • @hermitfan_363
      @hermitfan_363 3 роки тому +19

      @@shinkenger2011 smh my head

    • @shinkenger2011
      @shinkenger2011 3 роки тому +40

      @@hermitfan_363 literally crying and sharting rn

    • @MegaSemi
      @MegaSemi 3 роки тому +5

      🤌🏻

  • @joaokenobiamaral3215
    @joaokenobiamaral3215 4 роки тому +880

    Plot hole: mista hates the number 4 but he uses a magnun 44 caliber

    • @carlosoramasramos8911
      @carlosoramasramos8911 3 роки тому +206

      Plot hole: Mista hates the number 4 but in his backstory he shoots 4 bullets perfectly

    • @runtergerutscht4401
      @runtergerutscht4401 3 роки тому +169

      Plot hole: why did Mista survive being in a gang with FUGO, whose name consists of four letters?

    • @dane9027
      @dane9027 3 роки тому +17

      that's not a .44 my man.

    • @yoshikagekira812
      @yoshikagekira812 3 роки тому +58

      I'm pretty sure mista's revolver is a .38 special

    • @joaokenobiamaral3215
      @joaokenobiamaral3215 3 роки тому +38

      @@yoshikagekira812 that plus 4 makes a .44 special

  • @TeeArCreep
    @TeeArCreep 3 роки тому +22

    the "kakyoin says there's no world in the mirror while there is" is waaaaay too dumb. little reminder, stardust crusaders was ~20 years before golden wind, so kakyoin just didn't know. that's it.

    • @somedude9621
      @somedude9621 2 роки тому +1

      It’s not even 15 years but ok

    • @fourplayerarcade
      @fourplayerarcade 2 роки тому +2

      @@somedude9621 The point still stands bozo.

  • @riverlynx1895
    @riverlynx1895 4 місяці тому +3

    I think the best way to describe King Crimson’s abilities is similarly to the preset dynamic between Josuke and Kira in the previous part: that being a direct contrast, or the complete opposite. When asked by my girlfriend about how King Crimson works, I explained that it erases the cause of an action, but the effect still happens, as seen in the hotel scene in the anime. This contrasts perfectly with Giorno’s powers, being erasing the effect of an action, but the cause still happens, as we see in Golden Experience Requiem’s final judgment on Diavolo.
    TLDR: King Crimson Erases cause, and keeps effect, to completely contrast Golden Experience, which keeps cause and erases effect.

  • @laceboner7365
    @laceboner7365 4 роки тому +1899

    Remember when Giorno stuffed his entire ear inside his head when he was bribing the cops at the airport? Well he never did it again!!!! araki forgot!!!!!!11!!!!
    - someone, I'm sure

    • @7thson855
      @7thson855 4 роки тому +221

      Well, actually he did it during Polpo's encounter so...
      aRaKY ForGot LaTer iN The pArT!!!

    • @laceboner7365
      @laceboner7365 4 роки тому +52

      aw fuck, i forgot too

    • @bugjams
      @bugjams 4 роки тому +97

      Honestly though it would've been hilarious to see Giorno just throw a bug over someone's head just to have it turn into a car and crush someone.

    • @maaaatiiii7
      @maaaatiiii7 4 роки тому +57

      Some people think that was a gold experience ability and don't realize it's just a quirk that Giorno has

    • @tymorgan8181
      @tymorgan8181 4 роки тому +1

      Was literally just about to mention ear folding lol

  • @Tanya-wm1jl
    @Tanya-wm1jl 4 роки тому +707

    Hey does anyone notice that when they first see a strong stand they're like " this stand is totally invincible" and like 1 episode later they beat the hell out of the stand user

    • @BrickBreakerXX
      @BrickBreakerXX 4 роки тому +129

      to be fair, that's the case for a lot of stands that have the advantage of preparation on their side. Our protagonists instead combine efforts, strategise or use sheer (p)luck to get them through.

    • @gay_madilynn
      @gay_madilynn 4 роки тому +39

      Omg its Jolyne Cujoh from famous manga and soon anime JoJo's Bizarre adventure Stone ocean

    • @virginiagalarza9078
      @virginiagalarza9078 4 роки тому +58

      @@gay_madilynn " *OI JOSUKE I ERASED ALL POSSIBILITY OF A PART 6 ANIME SO THAT WE CAN GET SBR SOONER BUT NOW PEOPLE ARE CALLING ME A PART SKIPPER PLEASE HELP* "

    • @noelleholiday61
      @noelleholiday61 4 роки тому +30

      @@virginiagalarza9078 Oi, Josuke! I erased time itself and now I'm the leader of an Italian gang and suffer from Dissociative Identity Disorder! Isn't that w a c k y?

    • @LumaSloth
      @LumaSloth 3 роки тому +2

      @@gay_madilynn ooohh *Nightmareeee!*

  • @CosmicFlyer6263
    @CosmicFlyer6263 3 роки тому +11

    I think the arrow piercing giorno in the beginning has different explanation. whole point of part 5 is how through resolve you achieve your goal and shortcuts are what leads to failure. Thus diavolos ability is to take a “shortcut” through fate’s events. Plus, the arrow chooses the user, so I think it’s more of a metaphorical explanation that giorno wasn’t chosen by the arrow then because he didn’t go through the events of part 5, thus not gaining resolve he has in the end to make the arrow choose him. So it’s more like a demonstration of Giorno’s growth and his steeled resolve, if that makes sense. But your interpretation is also good

  • @TheGreatSmitzJoey
    @TheGreatSmitzJoey 2 роки тому +13

    0:46 I though another part of the reason why Jotaro sent Koichi was not just due to his reliability but also his relatability. After how he handled Yukako and that rude nurse Jotaro recognized him as a fellow thot slayer.

  • @qEagleStrikerp
    @qEagleStrikerp 4 роки тому +434

    About the Buciaratti Revival: I actually interpreted the content of the last two episodes the following way: By destroying the rock, Buciaratti was able to escape his fate of dying and be able to live for a while longer in a dead body. In exchange, two of his fellows - Narancia and Abacchio - would die alongside him.
    Edit: Also take a look at Salumas explanation in the first comment, it provides an even better solution.

    • @regenbogenwolf
      @regenbogenwolf 4 роки тому +115

      this is actually a realy good explanation.
      I just took it as revealing that Buciaratti not dying to rolling stones meant that those two where also fated to die.
      This is just my interpretation, but it seems like rolling stones ability is not to just euthanise somone destined to die, but to save the life of another one destined for death in the process.
      Without it, the sculpctors girlfriend would have died like her father, but because she allowed herself to get killed by it her organs can now save her father, saving him from his destininy of death.
      Likewise if Buciaratti had died by it the events that lead to Narancias and Abacchios dead wouldn't have had occured, saving them from their fated deaths.

    • @qEagleStrikerp
      @qEagleStrikerp 4 роки тому +9

      @@regenbogenwolf This is an even better explanation, thank you!

    • @judgment5090
      @judgment5090 4 роки тому +9

      Rock: did he just crush me? He just crushed me. Well let’s how he handles survivors guilt!!!

    • @frlfrl2098
      @frlfrl2098 4 роки тому +23

      Saluma
      Man, imagine if Bucciarati had died here. The fated encounter would've never happened and Giorno wouldn't meet Bucciarati's gang. Maybe it was a destiny where the boss was never overthrown.

    • @Zeldarulah
      @Zeldarulah 3 роки тому +1

      This is what I thought too, but I was surprised to see no one else saying this until I saw this comment

  • @dillankempter5780
    @dillankempter5780 4 роки тому +223

    I like to imagine that Echoes act 3 is just a representation of Koichi's personality just like Spice Girl is for Trish, but Koichi just hasn't embraced that vulgar version of himself that Act 3 encompasses.
    also Spice Girl says "please, give me orders" just like Act 3 does when it is first revealed, so there you go, they're the same

    • @thoronbar
      @thoronbar 4 роки тому +57

      I think Koichi has pent-up annoyance because everybody looks down on him, literally and then figuratively. He's a good person, so he chooses not to act this way, but his Stand, as an extension of his soul, is honest rather than kind. See 'kill da hoe'

    • @theyeetmeister6953
      @theyeetmeister6953 4 роки тому +11

      so, its the same Stand?

    • @hfbnffsdugai3754
      @hfbnffsdugai3754 4 роки тому +10

      @@thoronbar Beeeetch

    • @emilio1044
      @emilio1044 3 роки тому +15

      @@theyeetmeister6953 Trish after seeing Echoes Act3
      So it's the same type of stand as Spice Girl

    • @mudamuda482
      @mudamuda482 3 роки тому +5

      Im assuming if koichi embraces his vulgar version it might have evolved into echos act 4

  • @luigifan001
    @luigifan001 Рік тому +3

    "Sorry Narancia, but i think you are being super sus. Its licking time."

  • @Legomicroman
    @Legomicroman Рік тому +3

    Ms. Shiobana: "i slept with a Vampire and all i got was this stupid photo!"

  • @Byakkoya11037
    @Byakkoya11037 4 роки тому +1008

    The one with Fugo was always a least favorite of mine. Just another example of people choosing to believe whatever they want to and passing it off as "haha I am so clever for noticing this thing that I have decided is a plot hole".

    • @SentientHoodii
      @SentientHoodii 4 роки тому +146

      *something isn't monologued about or explained in excruciating detail every time it is shown or brought up because readers shouldn't have the memory of a goldfish*
      Jojo fans: "Is this a plot hole?!?!?!"

    • @daskampffredchen9242
      @daskampffredchen9242 4 роки тому +33

      @@SentientHoodii I hate that in Animes if a character feels the need to repeat everything.
      Sum it up in 20words or less

    • @Byakkoya11037
      @Byakkoya11037 4 роки тому +6

      @@SentientHoodii Pretty Much.

    • @Pyroniusburn
      @Pyroniusburn 4 роки тому +86

      It's ironic the early parts are criticised for spoon-feeding certain points and having a running narrator during fights, only for later parts to have people constantly claim plot holes in the material whether they're there or not, most of the time because they weren't paying attention when it was explained.

    • @daskampffredchen9242
      @daskampffredchen9242 4 роки тому +14

      @@Pyroniusburn Thats pretty much what Speedwagon is in part 1

  • @IgnacioRodriguez-ue8pb
    @IgnacioRodriguez-ue8pb 3 роки тому +527

    When Giorno meets the gang is shown abbachio pissing on the teapot, why didnt he used that ability to kill king crimson??
    Araki forgot

    • @datpisidukmv2819
      @datpisidukmv2819 2 роки тому +79

      That is one of Diavolo's deaths so it's 100% cannon

    • @theindianyouwatch
      @theindianyouwatch 2 роки тому +14

      Jarate!

    • @jonathanyu9076
      @jonathanyu9076 2 роки тому

      @@theindianyouwatch FOOL, YOU FORGOT MY SECRET ABILITY B U S H W H A C K A

    • @Banan_Man_
      @Banan_Man_ 2 роки тому +9

      they shouldve pissed on diavolo 😭

    • @reemraghad4267
      @reemraghad4267 2 роки тому +2

      @@datpisidukmv2819 really? Why? does drinking pee kill you?

  • @forestedge2000
    @forestedge2000 3 роки тому +19

    One thing that bothered me is that on part 5, episode 21, when the small wooden thing stabbed bucciarati's hand made a hole but didn't bleed since his body is already dead. However, after Abbachio's death, bucciarati bit his lip and bled which is after episode 21. Why is it like that?

    • @derekmacias9374
      @derekmacias9374 2 роки тому +2

      Araki forgot

    • @thenowhereyoast3158
      @thenowhereyoast3158 2 роки тому +16

      Just because his blood stopped flowing doesn't mean it's not still in his body, as gornio said "I replenished his blood" so he had stagnant blood, and there are wounds he receives later on that are shown to be bleeding slightly, such as the large cut he gets on the back of his leg when their on the plane, and the wound he gets on his hand from sanctuary throwing rubble at him. That specific case is probably just another one of the animation errors

    • @jojoversus1100
      @jojoversus1100 2 роки тому +4

      @@thenowhereyoast3158 Holy jesus. You do know that it is possible for people to just, mess up, right? "Actually his blood was never stated to not be in his body, just that it wasnt flowing, meaning due to the dianetics of blood vessels in the lip, there would technically be blood in that particular part of the lip, blahblahblah etc."
      Or. Y'know. An error.

    • @dapanduh6490
      @dapanduh6490 Рік тому +1

      @@jojoversus1100 He already acknowledged it could be an error, lol.

    • @samueloak1600
      @samueloak1600 Рік тому

      @@dapanduh6490 by Araki they mean

  • @sebatianparker7202
    @sebatianparker7202 Рік тому +3

    Plot hole: jotaro didn’t smell that king crimson existed and take him out with star finger all the way from Japan!

  • @alnotbiggaytho7124
    @alnotbiggaytho7124 4 роки тому +235

    15:00 I always thought Diavolo's illogical past were references to him being a literal demon haunting Doppio.

  • @dusknoir64
    @dusknoir64 4 роки тому +129

    Honestly, how could Araki forget the entire subplot of Fugo, Narancia, and Mista's dancing career?

    • @M4x_P0w3r
      @M4x_P0w3r 4 роки тому +22

      I mean, they are perfectly syncronized, so that implies that they must have done that at least a few times before in the past. Just how often does Bruno hold someone hostage to interrogate them while these 3 goofs are dancing in their face?

    • @vcsa681
      @vcsa681 4 роки тому +11

      Why they didnt used the torture dance again against Prosciutto and Pesci?

  • @jerrellswinney2978
    @jerrellswinney2978 Рік тому +6

    14:17 I get what you mean, I think the question is more of why didn't Giorno even attempt to revive him. I think the answer to that question is simply time. He found Bruno very soon after he was killed, while Abbacchio was found later after he died.

    • @PetitPoneyDuVercors26
      @PetitPoneyDuVercors26 Рік тому +5

      And it is clear that his soul already went to the afterlife, while bruno's soul was still there

  • @thatgoldenguy3272
    @thatgoldenguy3272 Рік тому +3

    “There were no other times where the ability was needed” ok write in a reason then it’s cool

    • @w.o.jackson8432
      @w.o.jackson8432 Рік тому +3

      A lot of "Araki forgot" moments are really just "Araki is a bad writer who has a lot of interesting ideas he never brings up more than once," which is very fair imo.

  • @krycklund
    @krycklund 4 роки тому +612

    I feel like continuously asking ''How could they survive that????'' is fundamentally misunderstanding Jojo's Bizzare Adventure.

    • @smgtercero
      @smgtercero 4 роки тому +48

      any shonen really, it happens time and time again that anime characters have a tendency to avoid death

    • @lucinavonnolaran8728
      @lucinavonnolaran8728 4 роки тому +61

      @@smgtercero you could say...
      they have a *B A T T L E T E N D E N C Y* !

    • @demi-femme4821
      @demi-femme4821 4 роки тому +34

      @@lucinavonnolaran8728 **off-key kazoo plays "Overdrive"**

    • @salsashark4133
      @salsashark4133 4 роки тому +24

      Lmao I saw someone talking about One Punch Man, saying, "but how is he even so powerful? It doesn't make any sense!" Super missing the point.

    • @mohamadalgendy4950
      @mohamadalgendy4950 4 роки тому +4

      I mean, im not gonna analyze some scene like "he lost too much blood because of the sun's position i was able to calculate that he has been losing blood for 10 minuted and should be dead" but when something like mista falling literally from the seventh floor and walking it off im going to call bullshit...

  • @snappinglettuce2865
    @snappinglettuce2865 4 роки тому +378

    The part where in the anime diavolo crushed the scorpion was just dp forgot

    • @markasbrown9120
      @markasbrown9120 4 роки тому +18

      At 2:45 - 3:20 he mentions the damage reflection. The anime adaptation was incorrect and in the manga Diavolo avoided damaging the scorpion.

    • @markasbrown9120
      @markasbrown9120 4 роки тому +22

      Wait nvm I just read your comment that DP forgot

    • @andresprieto888
      @andresprieto888 3 роки тому +2

      @@markasbrown9120 its a david production forgot

  • @Jorvalt
    @Jorvalt Рік тому +5

    2:55 The problem with this is that he never actually TRIES to use this ability again. He could have, say, created something with Gold Experience and gotten an enemy to attack it by blocking with it or something similar. Like when he created that tree to get away from Koichi and he attacked it. This is just another example of Araki creating some kind of ability or weird thing for a stand to do, but then that never comes up again because he just put that aside and didn't consider having it be used again. He does that a lot.

    • @elijahf1647
      @elijahf1647 Рік тому

      name a fight where it would be useful and when, also he used the tree to get away from Koichi, atp in time he had no idea Koichi had a stand or that a midget like him would try to attack a tree of all things so he didn't intentionally use it against Koichi

    • @exploertm8738
      @exploertm8738 7 місяців тому

      I mean probably yeah, Araki has that habit; to his credit, more often than not you can see how and why this ability wasnt used again. For damage reflect, Giorno fought two autonomous stands which barely if at all affect their user even if defeated so damage would've been reflected at Stand at best (which is questionable depending on exact mechanics of damage reflect; if it involves life energy then its just useless against stands) and caused stand user to scratch their ass at worst due to negligible feedback. Against Green Day, well, cant exactly reflect molding so useless here too. And Diavolvo, as mentioned, straight up avoided punching scorpions so he most likely knew it was a bad idea (Forecast probably told him so at some point, he used King Crimson to avoided being countered, never repeated this mistake again). Not really straightforward but I also wouldnt call it mental gymnastics

    • @adamiadamiadami
      @adamiadamiadami 5 місяців тому +1

      @@elijahf1647 People who are this apologetic about obvious mistakes really can't identify patterns properly it seems. Araki did this *multiple times* over the years and it's blatantly obvious he did it with GE. Almost every protagonist had abilities that got either retconned or ignored by Araki for being too OP or just useless. Such as J8suke's "stealing" ability and all stand's ability to shrink. In truth, Araki loves writing deus ex machinas. And it's fine, there's no need to gaslight those who notice it lol.

  • @zealot824
    @zealot824 Рік тому +2

    4:25 Not to mention that if the objects were truly static, they'd be gone in an instant due to the Earth moving 67,000 mph.

  • @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache
    @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache 4 роки тому +608

    Part 5 was easily one of my favorites hands down. Actually, it's hard to pick because I love every JoJo part.

  • @fungmonger3000
    @fungmonger3000 8 місяців тому +2

    6:53 imagine giorno making an army of himself by using his own cells lol

  • @Andrew_arts
    @Andrew_arts 2 роки тому +9

    This guy clearly shows that araki rearly forgets , we are just not paying enough attention

    • @bonkieblues9119
      @bonkieblues9119 2 роки тому +2

      That is correct. People seriously need to wake the hell up nowadays.

    • @Jiub_SN
      @Jiub_SN Рік тому

      @@bonkieblues9119 it's like mfers just parrot what other dumbasses say on the internet and don't think for themselves

  • @gzs98
    @gzs98 4 роки тому +2066

    These videos are basically you saying: "Start paying attention, jojofans".

    • @guildmasterri5995
      @guildmasterri5995 4 роки тому +145

      Especially anime only one who takes a joke so far and think everything which don't make sense to them is araki forgot

    • @francescolombardi3438
      @francescolombardi3438 4 роки тому +133

      Jojo Fans: Omg why doesn't hamon come back?!
      Me, an intellectual: omg Why SHOULD hamon come back?

    • @moralstrash
      @moralstrash 4 роки тому +2

      @@francescolombardi3438 i mean...

    • @playershiningmuffin3266
      @playershiningmuffin3266 4 роки тому +7

      @@francescolombardi3438 think part 9 is gonna be battle tendency all over again

    • @francescolombardi3438
      @francescolombardi3438 4 роки тому +54

      @@playershiningmuffin3266but with a new SPIN on things

  • @gcsgamingcommunity4087
    @gcsgamingcommunity4087 4 роки тому +211

    11:27 tiny nitpick - (in the anime at least) Bruno’s deafness is induced by damage to his eardrums from popping a tire under mud, not as a side effect of being dead.

    • @ElsanneJ
      @ElsanneJ 4 роки тому +66

      He was already kinda deaf and only hearing the souls' voices, but that *at least* fully deafended him.

    • @DeathKingChannel
      @DeathKingChannel 4 роки тому +45

      Yeah, his body would eventually deteriorate to the point he would go deaf. The situation just sped it up.

    • @victornyabuto5553
      @victornyabuto5553 3 роки тому +7

      In the car with giorno, bucciarti, and mista it seems that he already was losing his hearin when bucciarti couldnt hear giorno

    • @kingkay14
      @kingkay14 3 роки тому +3

      No he was already going deaf during the ride with giorno after they escaped the fishing village he couldn’t hear him until he looked in the rear view mirror. The tire pop did make it worse

    • @votebot3914
      @votebot3914 3 роки тому +2

      I think the point of him saying that was that he didn't feel and or bleed from his ear drumbs bursting

  • @frankyfeson1781
    @frankyfeson1781 Рік тому +3

    I like that most of the 'Araki forgot' is just people not focusing

  • @somethingbanter
    @somethingbanter 2 роки тому +5

    Both times that a stand becomes a requiem one, the user willingly puts the stand in a position to be stabbed. Even chariot accidentally pricking its finger during the flashback only happened because polnareff made it retrieve the arrow since he couldn't reach it. gold experience getting grazed by it from black sabbath was not giorno actually going for the arrow as in him wanting it, he was just intercepting an attack. i bet there's some kind of intent and consent rules.

  • @lokne8670
    @lokne8670 4 роки тому +228

    “No stand can bring somebody back from the dead”
    Civil War would like to have a chat

    • @Chernobog2
      @Chernobog2 4 роки тому +74

      Civil War actually manifests exact replicas of anyone who is "revived" with its power, so any anyone revived this way is actually a copy, not the original. It's kind of like Giorno cloning Coco Jumbo.
      If that's too much of a BS answer, remember that SBR and JoJolion are in a different universe with different stand metaphysics.

    • @maaaatiiii7
      @maaaatiiii7 4 роки тому +51

      What about Limp Bizkit, or as I like to call it: f l a c c i d p a n c a k e

    • @DoganME
      @DoganME 4 роки тому +1

      Jack SBR has different rules than universe from part 1-6

    • @whatiathatdogdoingfr
      @whatiathatdogdoingfr 4 роки тому +1

      Different universe different rules

    • @skippermysun5991
      @skippermysun5991 4 роки тому +2

      @@Chernobog2 it's a joke

  • @slooobs1123
    @slooobs1123 3 роки тому +160

    Even if fugo was meant to be a spy, him learning the torture dance must've been amazing

    • @ctrlaltrepeat245
      @ctrlaltrepeat245 2 роки тому +4

      Yknow when I think abt it, Fugo would be amazing spy.
      If he’s ever found out, he could just punch a wall with Purple Haze or shoot a capsule at someone and then run away

  • @syazoneakae1naruto843
    @syazoneakae1naruto843 3 роки тому +6

    fugo doesnt join the team becuz he doesn't know how to swim

  • @nishchayjain1121
    @nishchayjain1121 Рік тому +5

    If Josuke just showed up instead of Kohichi, and Giorno making fun of his hair of hair, Josuke would get mad, and it would mess up mission, if Jotaro sends Josuke instead of Kohichi.