@@zhengyingli I don't understand how that would make a difference. Even if it did, Bruce is closer to his dad than his mom. His death should've been more effective.
It's not that their mother's had the same name. That's what makes batman hesitate/pause briefly as he is rememberin his own mother. When batman realizes that's superman's mother, he doesn't view him as an "alien" anymore. He realizes superman has a mother on earth and that he cares more about humans and our planet than what batman initially thought. It humanized superman in the eyes of batman.
“At least six movies of good material “ while funny, is definitely the saddest, truest statement in the video. This fast track to justice league was soooo poorly planned
@@chrisg24601 The 3 hour cut called the ultimate edition was also released later on but it doesn't change the fact that they tried to do too much in one movie.
Gotta love Lex's plan. "If Superman survives, I'm screwed. If Lois Lane survives, I'm screwed. If Doomsday survives, I'm screwed and so is the planet. If any one thing in this impossibly intricate plan over which I have no control over anyone's actions goes wrong. I'm screwed."
***** The only way he isn't is if Batman wins before Doomsday needs to be unleashed and then Louis Lane dies...somehow.......So yeah. He's pretty screwed.
Doomsday tried to punch Luthor almost immediately after being born and would have killed him if Superman didn't block the punch. He seems to have been reacting like an animal, just punching at whatever p!ssed him off at that particular second. Luthor in no way had control over Doomsday's actions.
"You can write all the essays you want to convince yourself it was brilliant - then again, dumb is a one-syllable word that covers it pretty well" oh snap
Vs. The Last Jedi; a blockbuster movie set literally only for Rian Johnson. That critics loved... somehow. (PS. as audience member not hyped up for BvS at all just watching it in cinema since it was there; it kinda sucked big time.)
@@yatharthtomar289 Okay if this scene was to represent that Batman has become the murderer of his own parents,then why did he started killing criminals right after the Save Martha scene
I am a DC fan and really liked batman vs superman (ultimate cut was better) but I don't have a problem with anything they said; this is hilarious and honest but not biased.
Because he's batman wripped straight out of the dark knight returns comics but goes to very realistic proportions to prove all our fears about batmam that we all chose to ignore.. we all know deep down that no normal human would live after Batman beats them up
Batman v Superman is a great , uplifting film , one of the few to win the title of The Battle of the Century , which is the battle between the two most well known and most iconic superheroes of the world , it is the movie that fans have been waiting for decades and a gigantic bombastic epic blockbuster movie . . .
That’s okay, Sups is a reporter for a major city newspaper and doesn’t know what billionaire playboy and Gotham real estate tycoon Bruce Wayne even looks like.
Superman did not use guns , but why the soldiers around him started shooting people and burning their corpses , since they could not make Superman look guilty , because he does not use guns ?
Man, Affleck did such a good job as Batman its sad to see how the whole thing just fell apart. I would much rather have watched a standalone Batfleck film.
I'm just gonna paraphrase what one of my friends said about this movie: "If you have a Batman vs. Superman movie and it isn't one of the most epic things ever, you done fucked up." And they had three hours to get it right, so...yeah. Damn shame.
yup. It should not have mixed reviews, it should put Marvel to shame. Instead they put Marvel in a pedestal. For fucks sake, they made a C grade superhero (Iron Man) into one of the most interesting characters out there
alejandro avelino I generally think people do not want to dislike a BvS so they cloud their judgement. It's like dating a crazy as hell hot chick, just focus on the hot part and ignore that she laughs at a toaster and practices witch craft with dead pigeons and Rubix cubes
+23GreyFox Suicide Squad was a movie which was overly dark , not making sense and with thin characters . . . The only good thing was the Joker , the others were dissapointing . . .
I never readed one of the comics and know only Joker and Harley. So i don't care about any sense. The most american movies are watched anyway when the brain is offline. I had fun.
This is still my favorite Honest Trailer to this day. They didn't hold back at all when covering this movie, and the fact that they made an extended version just proves how much material the movie gave them to poke fun at.
DC casting is insane. Apparently, Jesse Eisenberg came in giving a pretty decent Joker performance and they went "LEX LUTHOR: NAILED IT." Then dumped a bag of hot topic accessories in front of Jared Leto and told him to use them as character motivation.
People tend to forget that about the Joker. I hear that complaint all the time. But, his performance was so awkward that I just started laughing every time he talked. But, his performance is not terrible. The enchantress actress was a hot mess.
Estania Duroseau I dunno, he came off more like of a sadistic goth-obsessed thug than anything. Joker is the clown prince of crime, eh? Even Ledger's more grounded portrayal wasn't a thug, more of a nihilistic Mephistopheles. Part of this is the fault of DC itself, who keep injecting 2005 era hot topic and nu-metal aesthetics into their characters, especially Harley Quinn.
Hark Yes! Yes! You're right! He comes off exactly like that. I think he's trying to mimic the Jack Nicholson Joker but it backfired on him. You speak the truth about DC, my friend. Their movie all have that vibe; they might think its cool and edgy because popular movies like Now You See Me and Nerve are doing it, but it doesn't work if everything is not put together. Yes! The commercials and whatnot really showboated Harley Quinn as this. It's pathetic. DC is really trying to be something they are not and because of it, they are having films like BVS. Suicide Squad is okay film but meh it could have been a lot better.
Starring "Martha Wayne" "Martha Kent" "Haaa Now I get it still dumb" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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In Lord of the Rings Legolas only needed one arrow to kill the cave troll. Superman needed kyptonite to kill the cave troll and died in the process. Legolas>Superman:D
Villain: Robs bank *batman swoops in and beats the villain because he's batman* Villain: Batman i'm sorry please let me go! Batman: (Doesn't respond) Villain: Please, Martha, i need the money for Martha! Batman: What did you say? Villain: Please i have to give this money to Martha, she's my mother! *batman stops what he's doing, takes out his check book* Batman: So who am I making this check out too? Villain: Wait are.... you serious. You're actually letting me go? Batman: Martha right? Villain: No.... I mean.... YEA.... Batman: Say no more Fam...
@Danny Malzahn That didn't stop him, not even in the slightest, from going on the murderous rampage he did throughout the whole film. How is DC supposed to make their cinematic universe feel connected, if they can't keep the characters consistent. The Dark Knight was based almost entirely on Batman's rule of not killing. It was a primary theme in the Nolan trilogy. Changing the actors was bad enough but flip-flopping between whether or not Batman kills people without any explanation at all really hurts the film imo.
Caden Young It's still incredibly jarring. It's clear that DC didn't have a long term plan ala Marvel's Avengers build-up campaign. Nolan's trilogy wasn't created with the express purpose of helping set-up or segue into a Justice League movie. However I am pretty confident in saying that if it were not for the huge success of Nolan's trilogy (and also for the fact that DC is basically playing catch-up with Marvel at this point) we would not see The Justice League currently getting the movie treatment. I feel it's a poor move to just ignore Nolan's Batman especially considering it pretty much paved the way to a live action Justice League movie being very profitable. It's not like Nolan's trilogy is an old mistake that DC is hurriedly trying to forget like Spiderman 3 or every Fantastic 4 movie that's come out. As much as what you said is fact it's still feels like a pretty big mis-step on DC's part.
Snyder was promoting Watchmen at the time he said that. He was upset that people were saying Batman Begins was realistic because he felt that since there was no threat of Batman being raped in prison, it wasn't realistic, dark, or gritty. On the other hand, Batman could *totally* get raped in his movie, so *his* movie is *really* dark and realistic and stuff! If you haven't already noticed, Snyder is kind of childish and dumb.
That wasn't the point of the quote. The interview is clear, he was angry people said Batman Begins is so dark and realistic while he thinks Watchmen was more so. It pairs with more recent statements where he says pointblank that comics that don't feature a lot of sex and violence don't interest him at all.
No, he meant that in watchmen, batman could have been like rorschach before that kid. Batman is no more than human, and many of those had some f*cked up sh*t happen to 'em. So... Ya.
I’m glad Batfleck got the well-deserved appreciation from honest trailers. I thought he was going to be terrible but is now one of my favorite Batman portrayals.
I am with the critics on this one( and I am a DC huge DC fan). These people literally destroyed a film that had so much potential. There was so much potential, all wasted by haphazardly put together characters and bizarre story telling. What happened to lex? Where's Doomsday's backstory (it's really cool) ? The entire movie feels kinda rushed.
Guys, regardless if you hated it, liked it or loved it... this video is for comedic purposes. How sensitive are you? I for one think this is a 7.5/10 movie for me, but even I can accept its flaws and man are Honest Trailers usually funny.
5:20 Are you talking about the part where Superman says, "You're letting Martha die?" And Batman, not knowing that Superman's mother's name is Martha, immediately percieves that Superman must know about his identity and the murder of his parents, and must be telling him that his actions are becoming like that of the man who murdered his family in front of him, and by association are effectively killing his mother all over again metaphorically by becoming the very kind of person that got her killed in the first place? You know, the one where, by having flashbacks of his mother's own murder, he realizes that his obsession with killing Superman, who was currently not a man found guilty of murder ( thus an innocent man ), he realized he was betraying the very reasons he became Batman in the first place? Finally, it was the scene where after realizing who Superman's mother is, he finally learned that Lex Luthor forced Superman to fight him in order to save his mother's life, because Lex Jr. was gonna have her killed? And it was out of compassion, sentiment, and understanding that Batman promised Superman, "Martha will not die tonight."? That scene in the movie? That's the one you are claiming solely centers itself around Bruce and Clark having mothers who share the same name? Yes? Okay, just checking. :3
Superman opens the fight calling Batman Bruce, so crazy Batman should expect that maybe this alien has at least whatever knowledge a quick google search could dredge up such as that his parents were murdered and what his mother's name was. He states he needs help before attempting to murder Batman, so this alien is clearly not above using dirty tricks in a fight. Batman only survives the wild haymaker Superman throws because he gassed him seconds earlier They punch for a bit and Batman is about to kill that lying alien before he squeaks out Batman's mother's name. Pretend you're Batman now. Do you: A) Scream "why did you say that name!" despite the fact this alien has very intimate knowledge of who you are and wait until Lois Lane finally does something useful in the movie. B) Kill that alien who already knows your real identity and is not above using dirty tricks like bring up your mother's name to try and psychologically attack you. That's where most people start having issues with the scene. It isn't because they really think that having mothers with the same name causes them to stop fighting. It's that the way the scene is put together, even knowing all the emotional stuff going on in the background, they decided to make it look like their mother's having the same name causes Batman to realize what Alfred already tried telling him 2 hours earlier in the movie and stop fighting.
Edit - Huh, your comment isn't showing up when I look at this. I bet I look like a crazy person now! *causes Batman to realize what Alfred already tried telling him 2 hours earlier in the movie* Since you said blood related, I assume you're talking about Damian, his son who he didn't learn about for years and was raised with the League of Assassins. Not sure why you mentioned it though. Seems kind of random My main point of contention is that Batman has the grand realization that he's becoming what he hated, a murderer, and decides to not not kill Superman because that would be wrong. He then flies the Batplane over to save Martha and guns down a line of trucks, killing all of those people. So what was his big epiphany? He was wrong to want to murder Superman but murder is still okay if people shoot your bullet proof plane? *He states he needs help before attempting to murder Batman, so this alien is clearly not above using dirty tricks in a fight.* As far as Superman was concerned at that point, Bruce wasn't a good man. He was a murderer he was being manipulated into fighting that, for no explained reason, he thinks might be able to help him find his mom. The fact that he throws a punch that would have killed or, at the very least, severely injured Batman for really no reason makes no goddamn sense. The way you describe Superman, he's basically a stupid meathead. He wanted to talk but then Batman shoots him with some regular bullets and now Superman needs to *force him to listen to him*. Superman really should have just left. There's no reason to assume Batman would be able to help and there certainly isn't any reason to stick around and make him understand what's going on. All he had to do was say Luthor is manipulating us and if Batman doesn't listen, just leave and go find his mom. Luthor clearly isn't watching the fight since he doesn't know they teamed up and Superman can apparently hear across oceans in this movie, so hearing his mother in the same city would make sense. *A) Scream "why did you say that name!" despite the fact this alien has very intimate knowledge of who you are and wait until Lois Lane finally does something useful in the movie.* As I pointed out, Superman opens the fight saying Batman's real name. A simple google search would reveal his mom's name at that she was murdered. Adding to that that Superman apparently lied about needing help before trying to kill Batman, there is no reason for him to question why Superman said the name Martha. It would all come off as a dirty trick to try and win the fight. Everything he did in this fight implies he knows Bruce's identity and is a dirty fighter. Batman should logically assume the alien is trying some cheap, insulting, last ditch effort to save his own skin and killed him instead of screaming. *B) Kill that alien who already knows your real identity and is not above using dirty tricks like bring up your mother's name to try and psychologically attack you.* You're forgetting the fact that Superman appears to be fine fighting dirty and lying. Why demand that he tell you what he's talking about? Batman didn't care at all when Superman's says they're being manipulated, but then the lying alien says his mother's name and all of the sudden anything he says will be the truth? If Batman believed everything Superman said, he'd be dead right now for all he knows after that haymaker Superman threw immediately after "asking for help." So why waste time with hearing him out when it seems like a cheap ploy to stall for time? It seems more reasonable for crazed murderer Batman who didn't give one hot sh!t what Superman had to say earlier to just murder him instead of screaming a question with an obvious answer or, as you suggested, interrogating him.
Yet before this movie came out people complained they were fighting and now the fight wasn't long enough? Can't complain about something being there than complain later it isn't there enough.
Because since then they've always done the pearls. personally....I didn't like it. It felt very...I don't know, try hard in my opinion. The fact Thomas wayne goes for Joe Chill, or how Martha kinda does to, and the pearls just happen to go between the hammer and the chamber. It kinda screamed "I have to make this better than the other times somehow." And its a scene made worse by "Martha!" because then it becomes clear the only reason Thomas Wayne says Martha before dying, despite pretty much every other Wayne death having no last words, they made Thomas say something for the sake of the audience going OHHHHH! I GET IT, when the scene happens.
funny how everyone hated the idea of Ben Affleck being Batman, saying how terrible he is, pointing out to Daredevil yada yada yada and one movie later Ben Affleck is now THE Batman
The problem with DC is they're trying to match the hype of Marvel. It took 9 years for Marvel to get to where they are now. And DC tries to catch up to that in like 2 or 3 movies? Just burning through years worth of good material? Wow.
Marcus McJelly Yeah. Eventually the MCU is gonna fizzle out and come to an end. If DC had done it right by stretching their movies out, fans would start to shift towards them. After 10 years of Marvel domination, people are gonna want change.
Marcus McJelly Well Marvel isn't all that perfect either. You tend to get tired of disposable one film villans where the good guys ALWAYS win. At least Superman died. Even if he's coming back there's still that sense that not everything is gonna work out.
"Even if he is coming back?" He is coming back. He's announced for Justice League, there was dirt rising from his coffin, and really, do you think they leave Superman dead after his second movie? His death was badly done. It was too soon, unearned, and immediately after the story takes whatever suspense they had from it by saying nope, he's coming back. Marvel is getting better about the villain problem and in the newest movies, even if the heroes live, that doesn't mean they win or even if they do, they still lose something. And before you accuse me of being a Marvel fanboy, I'm saying this all this because whether you like them or not, Marvel has a game plan, even if they haven't always perfectly executed it. DC seems like they have one, but its been executed badly. That needs to change. Hopefully, Wonder Woman is the sign of that change.
Superheroes are supposed to be bigger than that. In the words of John Cena "Rise Above Hate" Superman especially is supposed to be the height of human achievment, what we should strive to be. He has always risen above hate and oppression, and a world that thinks he's obsolete. So, sorry, but a bitchy, moody, emo, high school man child is not what anyone wants to see.
Like the other guy said, Superman is supposed to represent everything good about humanity, he's supposed to be the best that we can be, he's supposed to be a being that's above whatever hatred or resentment people throw at him. The way they portrayed Supes in this movie is another testament about how Zack Snyder knows absolutely jack-shit about Superman (or comic books in general).
You know, it's alright for people like me to have enjoyed this movie. We acknowledge that it wasn't perfect by a long shot but for the most part I found it an entertaining movie. Civil War was still better. That part we can agree on
Jake Kale I love DC just as much as I love Marvel... so a lot. I'm not trying to make a point. I thought BvS was a train wreck. It did shame to both Batman and Superman. I personally thought Civil War was even worse because it ruined one of my all time favorite comic book story lines with atrocious dialogue and unnecessary pandering.
Shoot Batman's bullet/rocket proof car = *Instant Death by a rain of bullets and your car exploding!!* Be a giant crocodile man that eats people = It's cool man, you totally can be rehabilitated through the criminal justice system.
It was suppose to be a recent change where he got more ruthless at this point and their still alive because he caught them before his change. Still a dumb change.
Yeah. I just read that which makes all of this even dumber. Robin also kills? Batman breaks his one rule? Why would Gordon support him? Nothing about this is accurate to the batman mythos unless they're doing golden age batman. Man I hate the murderverse.
That's a fan theory, it's still never confirmed that his killing is a "Recent development" in his life. And even if it was, that begs the question of Why he would kill as of recently, but not resort to it upon learning about people like the Joker... There are so many things wrong with the screen play of this film, it's just astounding.
Alex crespo is Awesome Sauce I remember seeing that thing when I was a kid. The only memory I have is an episode opening with a woman eating a deer or something.
The title at the end was comedy gold "can't do them all justice". Luther's list, "an actual bat", one syllable word burn, what an excellent honest trailer!
I always just thought the Martha scene was supposed to symbolize Batman realizing that if he killed Superman right then, he would've been no better than the criminal who killed Bruce's parents. Those were the dying words of his father, the words that showed that Thomas Wayne died trying to save his family. And that if Bruce killed Superman right then, he would've been the same thing that he swore to fight against. That's what I took away from it anyway.
That's what basically everyone understood from the scene. People's complaints have more to do with how dumb the scene comes off. Superman starts calling his mom Martha because.....because.....the plot needs to move forward, and Batman, despite Superman proving he knows who Batman is and reasonably could have googled his basic life story, starts screaming like a moron "*Why Did You Say That Name!?!*. That is until Lois Lane comes into the scene and proves how important she is by doing the first *actually* important thing she's done in the movie that doesn't involve being rescued!
+TabalugaDragon he didn't see a vision. he had a dream. why would he think that superman knows something? Superman was talking Martha like she's alive.
It was dumb. The climax of the movie is based on Batman discovering that he and Superman have mothers with the same name. So the greatest detective in the world that 's done enough homework to not only discover Superman's weaknesses, but also coordinate the fight to take him down, never ran across the fact that both their mothers have the same first name? Yeah, right. I'm cool with suspense of disbelief, but this is just asking for suspense of brain activity. Not gonna happen.
Nathan Zimmerman I understand that that moment of realization that Bruce and Clark have mothers with the same name, and that's the only person that crossed Clark's mind as he was about to die, was powerful enough to see some form of humanity in Clark. But batman should have already known about the name similarity as soon as he started researching superman!!! He's the world's greatest detective. He beats his opponents by knowing them better than they know themselves. He would have known about Martha and wouldn't have been shocked when superman said her name. That would have led him to not care and kill superman. Or he doesn't fight him in the first place. At any rate, that scene either doesn't happen, or batman kills superman.
+Akinola Emmanuel no it was about Batman realising that Superman actually has a mother and that he left Superman defenceless in the same manner his parents killer left him.
You Dont E.N.O Again, that's a piece of information he would know from the very beginning when he was researching Superman. It wasn't that he had a mother, of course it would be assumed that he had one, it was about the name.
For anyone who really wants to see a GOOD Batman vs. Superman fight, go watch the animated version of "The Dark Knight Returns". Seriously, it is about ten times better than this dreck.
The Dark Knight Returns is good, but BvS handled the characters much better. In TDKR Superman is working for the government, and is taking orders from the president. because the president tells him to take in Batman . . . he does. Even though Batman's his oldest friend. I'm sorry, but that's just stupid. Why is Superman suddenly a completely different character? TDKR is an else-worlds story, and the characters are too different, so the conflict isn't relatable. In BvS, Superman has no choice but to fight. He remains the same character. They did it better in BvS.
For the last time the "Martha" scene made perfect sense. All Bruce knew about Superman was that he was all powerful, thought to be a god, and that death followed him wherever he went. However, as his hand was at the Man of Steel's throat, Clark didn't beg for mercy, and he didn't beg for forgiveness. What the Superman wanted was for Batman to save an old woman. Clark would've died for his mother and everyone he loved (which he did btw) and he obviously knew that the only person that could help him save his mother was in fact Bruce Wayne if he himself would not live. The fact that "Martha" was the name of Bruce's mother may have been a coincidence, but it wouldn't have mattered. In his final moments, the god wanted his adopted mother to be saved. This triggered the realization that Clark was no less human than the rest of us. His story is of a god trying to be more human than humans are themselves. He was selfless and brave and that's what Bruce recognized. I'm tired of people criticizing it because it didn't make sense to them.
That's not true. Right before Bruce goes for the kill, he mentions Superman's parents. And like Superman, he is aware of the other's secret identity. Not only that, but Superman just called him Bruce before they fought. So he shouldn't even be surprised over Superman using the name to save himself. especially a bitter Batman that kills first and asks questions later.
and what the hell are you talking about, begging forgiveness? Why the hell would Superman beg for forgiveness after he tried to KILL Batman? Or have you actually forgotten the line of dialogue where Superman says that either he will talk to him or KILL HIM. And then he tries TWICE to punch him as hard as he can and he's shocked that it didn't work. Superman has no right to beg for forgiveness because just like Batman, he was (at one point in the fight) going in for the kill.
No, but even if Batman see humanity in superman, how does that make a difference? Batman above all else KNOW that humanity can be incredibly broken. Why? Because of himself. Remember this line? "20 years in Gotham Alfred, we've seen what promises are worth, how many good guys are left? How many stay that way?" This Batman doesnt considered himself a good guy ANYMORE, which is true. Other Batman always believe on a core level that Superman is a good guy, but this Batman doesnt. So why should Superman having humanity matter in the long run, from this Batman point of view?
i enjoy the movie the first half with lex setting superman up an batman doing detective work was all cool dont see how any one whos a fan could hate it the only problem was that lex would get to silly at times problems the fight takes a little to long to get to an superman is a little to mopey but i get were hes coming from people hate him over nothing the actual fight was bad ass lex manipulating them was cool but it begs the question how the hell did he know who batman was superman i understand but batman no the actual fight even though superman should have tried harder to tell batman what was happening was still awesome an the only realistic way it could have been done the martha thing was silly an a weak resolution because it feels to easy but the batman scene in the war house is by far one of the best action scenes on film an more then makes up for it dooms day is fine he is only a plot device in the comics same as here but how he comes into the movie with the whole gene splicing is a interesting way to do but should have been written better the justice league cameos were put in at the wrong time but were still cool for anyone who wants to see these guys wonderwoman was a little under used but she was a side character an was a total bad ass an awesome at the end which more then made up for it the ending battle with superman being hit by a nuke an coming back to life an sacrificing himself was all awesome dont see how any one couldnt like it on a pure fun action level an them teaming up to bring down dooms day was cool wonder woman holding him batman weakening him an superman spearing him was all cool the finale shot of the dirt rising on supermans grave was a great hopeful way to leave the film if you care for superman all in all really good first half with a villain whos a little over the top at times with a over long middle but a fun fight an great batman scene with a fun ending battle together make a muddled an shotty written in places but all in all pretty good superhero drama action flick i think some people expected a movie about two guys punching each other to be some oscar flick or something lol the ultimate cut takes a pretty good but not great flick an makes it great by adding a more fleshed out story that gives the film more heart especially in the superman funeral scene still not amazing but for a silly idea of a batman fighting a demi god it is a great muddled but entertaining drama action flick
My biggest gripe about this movie was that the entire main fight between Clark and Bruce was hinged on a lack of communication. but 10/10 would watch again for just Wonder Woman.
why was batman so willing to kill superman but not lex luthor or the joker...you know...the actual bad guys? and guy has been the world's greatest detective for more than 20 years and only started doing actual detective work in 2016 but somehow thought superman was the bad guy
Michael Eno i hate you ,batman was afraid of superman and consumed by his nightmares ,so he tried to kill superman because he thinks this is the right thing to do if he wants to protect the world and that's why he kills people ,his fear made him a cold blooded killer and he spared superman because he saw that he was like him ,they both lost everything ,not just because their mothers have the same names ,so the next one who says martha i kill him
bruce oriakhi even if it's not close to the comics it's still based on it ,lex luthor's story ,robin's death ,why batman kills people ,you can know all of these things only if you read the comics
Ditto. It's funny seeing all these people crying "You just don't understand the scene because you like spoonfed stories" when they probably can't read a book longer than 80 pages.
Not to mention, it wasn't really necessary, they could have made Doomsday interrupt their fight, Superman and batman start fighting it, and during the fighgt, they learn a bit about each other and that it was all a setup as Lex brags about it (since in this movie, Lex is a dumbass chatterbox, wouldn't be far-fetched he would brag about his evil plan while they fight doomnsday expecting'em to die)...see? I wrote their fight better than Snyder in one paragraph xD
lol pretty much, if they had placed it in the right moment and had maybe been kind of leading up to their reconciliation and that was the thing that really clicked then it could have gone over so much better. However Batman had seemingly few second thoughts about killing Superman then totally changed his mind from that one awkwardly placed plea.
David Goyer is one of the most least talented screenwriters in the biz, that also for some reason has a lot of ignorance and animosity towards comic book properties. Why they keep letting him work on them is beyond me.
Wrong. He wrote the script but it was a bigger mess than the last draft so WB called Terrio to polish it but Terrio is a mediocre writer too who can't handle a lot of plotlines so he didn't polish it at all.
"They just burned through at least 6 movies worth." God that hurts.
At least with the new Flashpoint film, they can finally move on from this mess for good.
@@aidangordon2713 and stop messing with snyders vision
@@zg8999 yeah, because he'll screw it up on his own 😂
@@tutumazibuko2510 you saw the snyder cut?
@@thesimpledude186 yep and my point still hasn't changed 🤣
Batman vs Aquaman
"Save... Thomas..."
"WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME???"
That actually wouldn't have worked on Batman because Bruce didn't hear anyone mutter the name "Thomas" as his parents were dying.
Would definitely work on Aquaman
Thomas kent
@@zhengyingli I don't understand how that would make a difference. Even if it did, Bruce is closer to his dad than his mom. His death should've been more effective.
Wow, how did I miss that.
There's a good chance that some of the guys Batman killed had mothers named Martha.
they tried to show an emotional ring to it and it failed to live up to it.
lol good point
It's not that their mother's had the same name. That's what makes batman hesitate/pause briefly as he is rememberin his own mother. When batman realizes that's superman's mother, he doesn't view him as an "alien" anymore. He realizes superman has a mother on earth and that he cares more about humans and our planet than what batman initially thought. It humanized superman in the eyes of batman.
Still dumb....
+Chris Cooper just like honest trailer said, you can make essays about it to convince yourself it's brilliant but it's still stupid
“At least six movies of good material “ while funny, is definitely the saddest, truest statement in the video. This fast track to justice league was soooo poorly planned
Sigh, tell me about it 😭😭😭
Tbf a writer said that batman v superman was supposed to be 3 hrs long but it was cut by Warner bros
@@chrisg24601 The 3 hour cut called the ultimate edition was also released later on but it doesn't change the fact that they tried to do too much in one movie.
@@richierich7229 true
@@chrisg24601 I know, but I feel like giving it more longevity and build up would have been cool
Those abs so good you wont even notice how fake those eggs are.......so true
Lol
I found out my dad's got a total dude-crush on Henry Cavill. I joked about it and my mom just said "Yeah, me too". Those abs strengthen marriages.
@@PatheticJedi I mean, who doesn't ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Its funny cs its true 🤪
Sooo true 😂😂😂
Gotta love Lex's plan.
"If Superman survives, I'm screwed. If Lois Lane survives, I'm screwed. If Doomsday survives, I'm screwed and so is the planet. If any one thing in this impossibly intricate plan over which I have no control over anyone's actions goes wrong. I'm screwed."
***** The only way he isn't is if Batman wins before Doomsday needs to be unleashed and then Louis Lane dies...somehow.......So yeah. He's pretty screwed.
But he still gets his JollyRanchers ;)
***** How was he under Luthor's control? Was there some kind of mind control device that Lex used, or was it just plot convenience?
Doomsday tried to punch Luthor almost immediately after being born and would have killed him if Superman didn't block the punch.
He seems to have been reacting like an animal, just punching at whatever p!ssed him off at that particular second.
Luthor in no way had control over Doomsday's actions.
+odblg Says who? I never once heard Lex give that command in either version. And Doomsday was punching at Lex when Supes blocked it.
"But at least Suicide Squad looks pretty cool right"
oh boy this was before Suicide Squad...
It’s a shame MAD got cancelled, they would have a field day with the DCEU
But honestly Suicide Squad was better.
@@81Earthangel it really wasn't but okay
@@patoren3gou653 yeah, either CN's MAD or MADtv would have a great time moking this movies
The plot of suicide squad is so generic and boring it felt like child written it for a English exam
"You can write all the essays you want to convince yourself it was brilliant - then again, dumb is a one-syllable word that covers it pretty well" oh snap
When people try to defend The Last Jedi.
@@0202-t3h ya like what ya like
@@0202-t3h I like the last Jedi.
@@0202-t3h indeed
@@somegeekguy also people like the flat earth theory, but its still dumb
Spoilers for Justice League: Steppenwolf's mother is called Martha too.
looooooooool
Say:"Do you want to build a meth lab"
Why did you say that name !!!!
+users 102030 yeah i just remembered lol
GET OVER IT !!!!!!
"Get ready for the battle of the century between critics and fans."
Until Starwars Last Jedi said, "Hold my beer."
PLC The Legacy true
Damn that's too true.
To me , Batman v Superman is way more controversial . A blockbuster movie aimed for the audiences , that critics hated with passion .
Vs. The Last Jedi; a blockbuster movie set literally only for Rian Johnson.
That critics loved... somehow.
(PS. as audience member not hyped up for BvS at all just watching it in cinema since it was there; it kinda sucked big time.)
PLC The Legacy The battle of the century is the fight between Batman and Superman .
Tell me I'm not the only one who paused it to read Lex's entire list
Ill get around to it
You're not.
I did too. DON'T FORGET THE JOLLY RANCHERS!!!
You're not.
This movie is worth Jarate.
I was about to divorce my wife when we both discovered we had a cousin by the same name and that saved our marriage
🤣🤣🤣
Fucking lunatics cant understand the meaning of that scene till now. This world is sick
@@yatharthtomar289 Okay if this scene was to represent that Batman has become the murderer of his own parents,then why did he started killing criminals right after the Save Martha scene
@@yatharthtomar289 I’m sure at least one of the guys he murdered had a mom named Martha but keep telling yourself that.
@@goodguygingy7342 this comment proves that you are a dumbass
I want a spiderman movie where the ghost of uncle ben says : "Kill them all, Peter."
LOL would watch 10/10 and Marvel Spiderman would actually kill them all over a snicker bar with smile on his face to impress Mr.Stark!!
I don't get the joke?
That would be awesome.
And everytime Spider-Man punches a bad guy, there's CGI shockwaves and buildings crumbling and shit!
it's scary because he could actually do it.
- How come Dad never left Kansas?
- You let him die in a tornado. Remember?
LMAO
This was the best one😂😂😂
I am a DC fan and really liked batman vs superman (ultimate cut was better) but I don't have a problem with anything they said; this is hilarious and honest but not biased.
By they I mean screen junkies
I think you're one of the only people who didn't insult screen junkies for making this. Well done sir.
You the real MVP glad you enjoyed
+Screen Junkies hey
+Screen Junkies woah (Keanu rives voice)
Okay, I'm gonna say it. Screen Junkies loves Ben Affleck"s version of Batman.
Affleck was a great Batman
@@tsunamifoxy Imo, he's far worse than Bale's. A confused, pushover Batman. Maybe because of the script and director, but still
@@aurorahouse8606 Christian Bale's Batman is the definitive incarnation in my eyes.
Because he's batman wripped straight out of the dark knight returns comics but goes to very realistic proportions to prove all our fears about batmam that we all chose to ignore.. we all know deep down that no normal human would live after Batman beats them up
I blame the script for Batfleck
Martha Wayne V Martha Kent: Dawn Of Martha (2016)
Aj Jingco LOL
Batman v Superman is a great , uplifting film , one of the few to win the title of The Battle of the Century , which is the battle between the two most well known and most iconic superheroes of the world , it is the movie that fans have been waiting for decades and a gigantic bombastic epic blockbuster movie . . .
Filimon Galogavros yeah, if you think so, buddy...
@@filimongalogavros5301 no lol
@@filimongalogavros5301 you can write all the essays u want but DUMB is best word to refer this movie
"at least Suicide Squad look pretty cool"
i laugth and laught and more...
But it did look cool?
lol I was deceived by the trailer too
if only they knew at the time
Do suicide squad
...Clean up on aisle-your pants!
Not sure if Jesse Eisenberg playing Lex Luthor or Jesse Eisenberg playing Jesse Eisenberg..
Isn't that guy Mark Zuckerberg playing Jesse Eisenberg playing a terrible Lex Luthor who is really Jesse Zukerbergish?
+laz kar lol. that's one of my favorite quotes. so classic
Worst part of the movie
Jesse Eisenberg is playing the love child of Heath Ledger's Joker and Jim Carrey's Riddler trying his best to make a Lex Luthor impression.
Plot twist!
Lex Luthor was the riddler all along. Even that would make more sense than his plan.
Batman's the worlds greatest detective, but didn't know Superman's mom's name...
That’s okay, Sups is a reporter for a major city newspaper and doesn’t know what billionaire playboy and Gotham real estate tycoon Bruce Wayne even looks like.
@@darkprose touché
In comics he couldn't figure out where robin was for two years when he was right under his nose at Arkham
Glasses. 'Nuff said.
TIL Snyder invented Clark's secret identity and it hasn't been an integral aspect of his character for the past eighty fucking years
Sounds like Hollywood is learning to clickbait
@Aurora Ruiz Vique dceu= how to make awesome solo movies.
@Aurora Ruiz Vique literally no miscast if you ask me. And you should ask me if you have different thoughts
@Aurora Ruiz Vique why do you wanna know ?
@Jack Bat that's what happens when the King of Mediocrity acquires you (AT&T)
Those abs are so good you won't even realize how fake those eggs are.
truthfully i didn't
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Superman did not use guns , but why the soldiers around him started shooting people and burning their corpses , since they could not make Superman look guilty , because he does not use guns ?
Eggs?... There were eggs?
then i jsut realize those eggs were fake
Marvel executives: Our films have a perfect blend of light and dark tones.
DC executives: Darker! Make it Darker!!! Darker! Darker! DARKER!!!
Marvel and dark ton? top kek, mate.
Lmao this is so true
+2xucan That's where you're wrong.
No, just stop. Give me at least 5 Marvel movies that had a "perfect blend of light and dark tones".
+2xucan Kamen rider did their version of civil war and it was better
Man, Affleck did such a good job as Batman its sad to see how the whole thing just fell apart. I would much rather have watched a standalone Batfleck film.
Same, I was actually looking forward to that.
Well now hes back
It seems like he really enjoyed playing Batman.
@@icemav5740 robert pattinson
@@kevincrow5259 I'm talking about the fact that hes filming new scenes for Justice League and hes starting in The Flash
I'm just gonna paraphrase what one of my friends said about this movie:
"If you have a Batman vs. Superman movie and it isn't one of the most epic things ever, you done fucked up."
And they had three hours to get it right, so...yeah. Damn shame.
Tru
I thought it was good
yup. It should not have mixed reviews, it should put Marvel to shame.
Instead they put Marvel in a pedestal. For fucks sake, they made a C grade superhero (Iron Man) into one of the most interesting characters out there
+Oscar Barahona By comparison, Superman and Batfleck should be dancing circles around that iron clown
alejandro avelino I generally think people do not want to dislike a BvS so they cloud their judgement.
It's like dating a crazy as hell hot chick, just focus on the hot part and ignore that she laughs at a toaster and practices witch craft with dead pigeons and Rubix cubes
"But at least Suicide Squad looks pretty good, right?"
ME: Honey, you've got a big storm coming.
Darth Vader: NOOOOOO!!!!
😂😂
Funny and painful.
0:01 'Dawn of Martha' on the bottom right 😂😂😂😂
Audrey Lim nice spot!
Lol never noticed that
Ha ha ha
Omfg 😂
I saw that!! lol
Fans v batman v superman v critics v otherfans v executives v Zack Snyder v expectations
Can't do justice to them all
SO uh... Suicide Squad sucked balls. Do Suicide Squad.
Agreed
I just left the theater... It was terrible!
Sami B A third of the crowd I went in with had gone by the time it was over.
Priyam :/
Noah Sosa But then again, isn't that an opinion too?
That outline of Lex's evil plan was phenomenal!
LadyJay882 hhi
Aside from being evil, this plan was also bad. So bad even Lex himself didn't know what the hell he was trying to accomplish.
It was awesome
Very clever . . .
LadyJay882 The red capes are coming ,
The red capes are coming !!!
at least suicide squad looks pretty cool though!
5 months later 😒
Theman Joe I was just thinking this XD
Nope . . .
I liked S.S.
+23GreyFox Suicide Squad was a movie which was overly dark , not making sense and with thin characters . . . The only good thing was the Joker , the others were dissapointing . . .
I never readed one of the comics and know only Joker and Harley. So i don't care about any sense. The most american movies are watched anyway when the brain is offline. I had fun.
This is still my favorite Honest Trailer to this day. They didn't hold back at all when covering this movie, and the fact that they made an extended version just proves how much material the movie gave them to poke fun at.
"But at least suicide squad looks pretty cool!"
Me in 2017 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Alejandro Vega the trailer did look nice
Alejandro Vega I liked both
But hey he was right! It did look cool!
The dialogue, story, and characters were all complete garbage but it did look cool.
S'what I thought!
I liked it and baught the Extended Cut and Still liked it
"At least Suicide Squad looks good right" Ahahahahaha. :D
The porn is amazing.
DC casting is insane. Apparently, Jesse Eisenberg came in giving a pretty decent Joker performance and they went "LEX LUTHOR: NAILED IT." Then dumped a bag of hot topic accessories in front of Jared Leto and told him to use them as character motivation.
Sometimes, I think they didn't even try at all. They are too busy trying hard to be something they are not...
But Jared's Joker was perfect. Wish his role was longer tho
People tend to forget that about the Joker. I hear that complaint all the time. But, his performance was so awkward that I just started laughing every time he talked. But, his performance is not terrible. The enchantress actress was a hot mess.
Estania Duroseau
I dunno, he came off more like of a sadistic goth-obsessed thug than anything. Joker is the clown prince of crime, eh? Even Ledger's more grounded portrayal wasn't a thug, more of a nihilistic Mephistopheles.
Part of this is the fault of DC itself, who keep injecting 2005 era hot topic and nu-metal aesthetics into their characters, especially Harley Quinn.
Hark Yes! Yes! You're right! He comes off exactly like that. I think he's trying to mimic the Jack Nicholson Joker but it backfired on him. You speak the truth about DC, my friend. Their movie all have that vibe; they might think its cool and edgy because popular movies like Now You See Me and Nerve are doing it, but it doesn't work if everything is not put together. Yes! The commercials and whatnot really showboated Harley Quinn as this. It's pathetic. DC is really trying to be something they are not and because of it, they are having films like BVS. Suicide Squad is okay film but meh it could have been a lot better.
Starring
"Martha Wayne"
"Martha Kent"
"Haaa Now I get it still dumb"
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
In Lord of the Rings Legolas only needed one arrow to kill the cave troll. Superman needed kyptonite to kill the cave troll and died in the process.
Legolas>Superman:D
XD So true!
10/10 flawless logic
lmao xD
Superman also needed Batman and Wonder Woman help. More points for Legolas :D
***** And also a cliché good bye scene:D
This was the funniest honest trailer in a long time.
agreed
I laughed and uggghed at this more than I possibly ever have to a ScreenJunkies video.
Yep, finally a good one
It helps that the movie is so bad.
But then again the comment section is about to become world war 3 though...
The line where he says Batman could get raped in my movie and the shot where Ben Affleck wakes up from nightmare is so hilarious 😂😂😂😂..i lost my words
Villain: Robs bank
*batman swoops in and beats the villain because he's batman*
Villain: Batman i'm sorry please let me go!
Batman: (Doesn't respond)
Villain: Please, Martha, i need the money for Martha!
Batman: What did you say?
Villain: Please i have to give this money to Martha, she's my mother!
*batman stops what he's doing, takes out his check book*
Batman: So who am I making this check out too?
Villain: Wait are.... you serious. You're actually letting me go?
Batman: Martha right?
Villain: No.... I mean.... YEA....
Batman: Say no more Fam...
lmao haahahah i know right?
I'm pretty sure Batman killed common thugs who may have a sense of decency and had moms named Martha too.
@Danny Malzahn That didn't stop him, not even in the slightest, from going on the murderous rampage he did throughout the whole film.
How is DC supposed to make their cinematic universe feel connected, if they can't keep the characters consistent. The Dark Knight was based almost entirely on Batman's rule of not killing. It was a primary theme in the Nolan trilogy. Changing the actors was bad enough but flip-flopping between whether or not Batman kills people without any explanation at all really hurts the film imo.
Caden Young It's still incredibly jarring.
It's clear that DC didn't have a long term plan ala Marvel's Avengers build-up campaign. Nolan's trilogy wasn't created with the express purpose of helping set-up or segue into a Justice League movie.
However I am pretty confident in saying that if it were not for the huge success of Nolan's trilogy (and also for the fact that DC is basically playing catch-up with Marvel at this point) we would not see The Justice League currently getting the movie treatment.
I feel it's a poor move to just ignore Nolan's Batman especially considering it pretty much paved the way to a live action Justice League movie being very profitable. It's not like Nolan's trilogy is an old mistake that DC is hurriedly trying to forget like Spiderman 3 or every Fantastic 4 movie that's come out. As much as what you said is fact it's still feels like a pretty big mis-step on DC's part.
"Batman could get raped in prison." What?
Snyder was promoting Watchmen at the time he said that.
He was upset that people were saying Batman Begins was realistic because he felt that since there was no threat of Batman being raped in prison, it wasn't realistic, dark, or gritty.
On the other hand, Batman could *totally* get raped in his movie, so *his* movie is *really* dark and realistic and stuff!
If you haven't already noticed, Snyder is kind of childish and dumb.
He just means Bruce was already overpowered even before he became Batman, therefore not realistic
That wasn't the point of the quote.
The interview is clear, he was angry people said Batman Begins is so dark and realistic while he thinks Watchmen was more so.
It pairs with more recent statements where he says pointblank that comics that don't feature a lot of sex and violence don't interest him at all.
Bluemew1234 What. The fuck.
No, he meant that in watchmen, batman could have been like rorschach before that kid.
Batman is no more than human, and many of those had some f*cked up sh*t happen to 'em.
So... Ya.
Am I the only one who laughed my ass off at Hector Salamanca?
No I remember that guy from breaking bad! Lol
im batman
Walter White did the Capitol confirmed
Nope :))
lol I was thinking the same thing.
I’m glad Batfleck got the well-deserved appreciation from honest trailers. I thought he was going to be terrible but is now one of my favorite Batman portrayals.
Real title - Murderman v Hypocriteman, Dawn of Brooding
Which is which?
Batman is Murderman and Superman is Hypocriteman.
or vice versa...No way to tell in BvS
EvanSol919 Murderman vs Captain Hypocrite* was the title Rich said.
EvanSol919 nah Barely Batman vs Superman: Setup of Justice League.
Batman v Superman: The Phantom Menace
LMAO!!!!
Justice League: A New Hope
Batman v Superman and the Kingdom of the crystal skulls.
+CucumberGaming Lets Hope. Pray it's not Justice league: attack of the clones.
Batman v superman
electric boogaloo
I don't think you guys get it.
They have moms with the same name.
Genius
WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME
+VanityManatee because of bad script writting
+VanityManatee and plot progression
+Dustin Johnson Wow that's very insightful.
Taco Time But it was still a nice attempt.
I am with the critics on this one( and I am a DC huge DC fan). These people literally destroyed a film that had so much potential. There was so much potential, all wasted by haphazardly put together characters and bizarre story telling.
What happened to lex? Where's Doomsday's backstory (it's really cool) ?
The entire movie feels kinda rushed.
Guys, regardless if you hated it, liked it or loved it... this video is for comedic purposes. How sensitive are you?
I for one think this is a 7.5/10 movie for me, but even I can accept its flaws and man are Honest Trailers usually funny.
Yea I'm throwing it out right now, I just finished watching the ultimate edition and I loved it :D waiting for the haters now.
Thank you. Wish more people were like you because I'm sick and tired of these fan wars.
Faith in humanity restored.
The movie was a 8.5 for me and i have avengers at a 10 but yeah!
Kush Patel sure.
My mom's name is Martha...
Why did you say that name?
Aston Levy what?
Andrea S It was a joke referencing the terrible plot twist. Because your mom's name is Martha.
Aston Levy oh lol sorry I've never seen the movie
Andrea S It's all right.
5:20
Are you talking about the part where Superman says, "You're letting Martha die?" And Batman, not knowing that Superman's mother's name is Martha, immediately percieves that Superman must know about his identity and the murder of his parents, and must be telling him that his actions are becoming like that of the man who murdered his family in front of him, and by association are effectively killing his mother all over again metaphorically by becoming the very kind of person that got her killed in the first place?
You know, the one where, by having flashbacks of his mother's own murder, he realizes that his obsession with killing Superman, who was currently not a man found guilty of murder ( thus an innocent man ), he realized he was betraying the very reasons he became Batman in the first place?
Finally, it was the scene where after realizing who Superman's mother is, he finally learned that Lex Luthor forced Superman to fight him in order to save his mother's life, because Lex Jr. was gonna have her killed? And it was out of compassion, sentiment, and understanding that Batman promised Superman, "Martha will not die tonight."?
That scene in the movie? That's the one you are claiming solely centers itself around Bruce and Clark having mothers who share the same name? Yes? Okay, just checking. :3
Superman opens the fight calling Batman Bruce, so crazy Batman should expect that maybe this alien has at least whatever knowledge a quick google search could dredge up such as that his parents were murdered and what his mother's name was.
He states he needs help before attempting to murder Batman, so this alien is clearly not above using dirty tricks in a fight. Batman only survives the wild haymaker Superman throws because he gassed him seconds earlier
They punch for a bit and Batman is about to kill that lying alien before he squeaks out Batman's mother's name.
Pretend you're Batman now.
Do you:
A) Scream "why did you say that name!" despite the fact this alien has very intimate knowledge of who you are and wait until Lois Lane finally does something useful in the movie.
B) Kill that alien who already knows your real identity and is not above using dirty tricks like bring up your mother's name to try and psychologically attack you.
That's where most people start having issues with the scene.
It isn't because they really think that having mothers with the same name causes them to stop fighting.
It's that the way the scene is put together, even knowing all the emotional stuff going on in the background, they decided to make it look like their mother's having the same name causes Batman to realize what Alfred already tried telling him 2 hours earlier in the movie and stop fighting.
Edit - Huh, your comment isn't showing up when I look at this.
I bet I look like a crazy person now!
*causes Batman to realize what Alfred already tried telling him 2 hours earlier in the movie*
Since you said blood related, I assume you're talking about Damian, his son who he didn't learn about for years and was raised with the League of Assassins.
Not sure why you mentioned it though. Seems kind of random
My main point of contention is that Batman has the grand realization that he's becoming what he hated, a murderer, and decides to not not kill Superman because that would be wrong.
He then flies the Batplane over to save Martha and guns down a line of trucks, killing all of those people.
So what was his big epiphany? He was wrong to want to murder Superman but murder is still okay if people shoot your bullet proof plane?
*He states he needs help before attempting to murder Batman, so this alien is clearly not above using dirty tricks in a fight.*
As far as Superman was concerned at that point, Bruce wasn't a good man. He was a murderer he was being manipulated into fighting that, for no explained reason, he thinks might be able to help him find his mom.
The fact that he throws a punch that would have killed or, at the very least, severely injured Batman for really no reason makes no goddamn sense.
The way you describe Superman, he's basically a stupid meathead.
He wanted to talk but then Batman shoots him with some regular bullets and now Superman needs to *force him to listen to him*.
Superman really should have just left. There's no reason to assume Batman would be able to help and there certainly isn't any reason to stick around and make him understand what's going on.
All he had to do was say Luthor is manipulating us and if Batman doesn't listen, just leave and go find his mom.
Luthor clearly isn't watching the fight since he doesn't know they teamed up and Superman can apparently hear across oceans in this movie, so hearing his mother in the same city would make sense.
*A) Scream "why did you say that name!" despite the fact this alien has very intimate knowledge of who you are and wait until Lois Lane finally does something useful in the movie.*
As I pointed out, Superman opens the fight saying Batman's real name. A simple google search would reveal his mom's name at that she was murdered.
Adding to that that Superman apparently lied about needing help before trying to kill Batman, there is no reason for him to question why Superman said the name Martha. It would all come off as a dirty trick to try and win the fight.
Everything he did in this fight implies he knows Bruce's identity and is a dirty fighter. Batman should logically assume the alien is trying some cheap, insulting, last ditch effort to save his own skin and killed him instead of screaming.
*B) Kill that alien who already knows your real identity and is not above using dirty tricks like bring up your mother's name to try and psychologically attack you.*
You're forgetting the fact that Superman appears to be fine fighting dirty and lying.
Why demand that he tell you what he's talking about?
Batman didn't care at all when Superman's says they're being manipulated, but then the lying alien says his mother's name and all of the sudden anything he says will be the truth?
If Batman believed everything Superman said, he'd be dead right now for all he knows after that haymaker Superman threw immediately after "asking for help."
So why waste time with hearing him out when it seems like a cheap ploy to stall for time?
It seems more reasonable for crazed murderer Batman who didn't give one hot sh!t what Superman had to say earlier to just murder him instead of screaming a question with an obvious answer or, as you suggested, interrogating him.
irks the shit out of me that everyone is too stupid to understand that. Fans of DC my ass
Who's that directed at?
still a stupid scene.
"from Zack Snyder and his accurately named production company" That's really make laugh and realize
A three-hour movie and the title fight is eight minutes.
Genius
That is what I think as well I prefer civil war if I want to see super heroes try to kill each other
+Spencer Taylor kill each other??
Nobody die
the v in the title doent mean vs you know
batman vagina superman
Yet before this movie came out people complained they were fighting and now the fight wasn't long enough? Can't complain about something being there than complain later it isn't there enough.
Honestly the scene in the beginning when Bruce's parents got shot, where the pearls went flying and stuff was pretty cinematically amazing.
Because since then they've always done the pearls. personally....I didn't like it. It felt very...I don't know, try hard in my opinion. The fact Thomas wayne goes for Joe Chill, or how Martha kinda does to, and the pearls just happen to go between the hammer and the chamber. It kinda screamed "I have to make this better than the other times somehow." And its a scene made worse by "Martha!" because then it becomes clear the only reason Thomas Wayne says Martha before dying, despite pretty much every other Wayne death having no last words, they made Thomas say something for the sake of the audience going OHHHHH! I GET IT, when the scene happens.
civil war
he puts more efforts into moments, than scenes, and that makes him both one of the strongest, and one of the weakest directors out there
^ You watched the nerdwriters vid too haha
thats not even your own brain, thatscwhat all the haters do, repeat what another person says
OMG! 2:40 was right.😂😂😂 I never noticed the eggs!😂😂😂
mind blown
Ditto. My niece has those same toy eggs
Lmfao same
240 DUN DUN DUNNN
oh yeah
Even the Honest Trailer voice guy had to gush over how amazing Batfleck was in BvS. That portrayal was gold.
"Tonight a comedian died in Gotham" lol😂😂😂
Watchmen 😂😂
Watchmen reference .
All Batman fans want the two main members of the Wayne foundation to live and not be harmed .
funny how everyone hated the idea of Ben Affleck being Batman, saying how terrible he is, pointing out to Daredevil yada yada yada and one movie later Ben Affleck is now THE Batman
Well, THE live-action Batman. THE Batman is Kevin Conroy.
VideoGameLova1 he's THE voice
+The ZombieMan Yes, but he's still THE Batman
VideoGameLova1 not really because I think Conroy can't pull of the suit
Reminds me how people reacted when Michael Keaton was announced to be Batman.
The problem with DC is they're trying to match the hype of Marvel. It took 9 years for Marvel to get to where they are now. And DC tries to catch up to that in like 2 or 3 movies? Just burning through years worth of good material? Wow.
Marcus McJelly Yeah. Eventually the MCU is gonna fizzle out and come to an end. If DC had done it right by stretching their movies out, fans would start to shift towards them. After 10 years of Marvel domination, people are gonna want change.
Mr. Magnificent Wow. Took the words right out of my mouth. That's exactly my point.
Marcus McJelly Well Marvel isn't all that perfect either. You tend to get tired of disposable one film villans where the good guys ALWAYS win. At least Superman died. Even if he's coming back there's still that sense that not everything is gonna work out.
"Even if he is coming back?" He is coming back. He's announced for Justice League, there was dirt rising from his coffin, and really, do you think they leave Superman dead after his second movie? His death was badly done. It was too soon, unearned, and immediately after the story takes whatever suspense they had from it by saying nope, he's coming back. Marvel is getting better about the villain problem and in the newest movies, even if the heroes live, that doesn't mean they win or even if they do, they still lose something. And before you accuse me of being a Marvel fanboy, I'm saying this all this because whether you like them or not, Marvel has a game plan, even if they haven't always perfectly executed it. DC seems like they have one, but its been executed badly. That needs to change. Hopefully, Wonder Woman is the sign of that change.
that's kind of why the made them nearly three hours long
"I'm more than a bird, I'm more than a plane..." This guy is hilarious!
Who else paused and read Lex's full plan...Just me
I honestly gave up half way.
at that scene i waited for Tony Stark: "not a great plan"
I did.
me
I did.
this was more entertaining than the movie
Nobody cares
no
Wow...so original
***** Or your shit videos
ANYTHING is more entertaining than the movie
I watched this video the first time before seeing the movie and assumed the "pee in a jar" step of Luther's plan was a joke. 😶
Nope
Well..there's your humor in movies
6:23 Let’s be honest: THIS is the most unbelievable part of the entire movie.
That was brilliant, totally missed that in the film
"Well at least Suicide Squad looks pretty good right"-5:57.....Uhhhhhhhhh about that
Yeah, I just rewatched this and have bad news for Honest Trailers writers of the past. I hear Wonder Woman is good, though.
Marvin Wade
LMFAO!
Please do an Honest Trailer for Batman: The Killing Joke
Please say this "Arthur Curry, I hear you can talk to fish"
Yes…1000x yes!
YES THAT WOULD BE AWESOME
I agree! Batman: The Killing Joke was off the hook!
please told me, was it great!!!!!!!!!!1
"So, suit up for a film that was so highly anticipated it could never have lived up to the hype!"
Now this makes my day LOL.
That killed me 😂😂😂Teenage Mutant Abomination Lord of the ring Cave Troll
😭😭😭
"Hector Salamanca" LOOOOOOOL
"Look at me Hec-Tor..."
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best part. also max Landis.
Breaking Bad reference.
I cracked at that part!!!
Superman has nothing to smile about. Humans hate him no matter how much he tries to save everyone.
Superheroes are supposed to be bigger than that. In the words of John Cena "Rise Above Hate" Superman especially is supposed to be the height of human achievment, what we should strive to be. He has always risen above hate and oppression, and a world that thinks he's obsolete. So, sorry, but a bitchy, moody, emo, high school man child is not what anyone wants to see.
Like the other guy said, Superman is supposed to represent everything good about humanity, he's supposed to be the best that we can be, he's supposed to be a being that's above whatever hatred or resentment people throw at him. The way they portrayed Supes in this movie is another testament about how Zack Snyder knows absolutely jack-shit about Superman (or comic books in general).
freddieawsome1
except that Superman was raised as a human so he feels like one. It's called Character Development.
Spidey is a human so he has no bearing in this conversation.
MrConstantine02
he is about the humans hence why he sacrificed himself for them
"Batman could get raped in prison." What the hell dude ? He's Batman!
"Brooding, moping, and wondering why he even bothers." Yeah, these days that's pretty much the American way.
That's not even what happened in the movie ..
He was sad cause he couldn't save those people in the Senate bombing ..
@@dignerds O.K. Karen.
You know, it's alright for people like me to have enjoyed this movie. We acknowledge that it wasn't perfect by a long shot but for the most part I found it an entertaining movie.
Civil War was still better. That part we can agree on
I'm not a die hard fan so I found this movie to be great.
I hated BvS, but I hated Civil War even more.
Civil war was boring Af, the only good scenes were with spidey in it
+KillJoy I have not met one person that has said that and wasnt an in closet DC fan trying to make a point
Jake Kale I love DC just as much as I love Marvel... so a lot. I'm not trying to make a point. I thought BvS was a train wreck. It did shame to both Batman and Superman. I personally thought Civil War was even worse because it ruined one of my all time favorite comic book story lines with atrocious dialogue and unnecessary pandering.
I think the biggest problem with Batman killing people is that it makes zero sense that any of the villains in Suicide Squad would be alive.
Shoot Batman's bullet/rocket proof car = *Instant Death by a rain of bullets and your car exploding!!*
Be a giant crocodile man that eats people = It's cool man, you totally can be rehabilitated through the criminal justice system.
It was suppose to be a recent change where he got more ruthless at this point and their still alive because he caught them before his change. Still a dumb change.
Robin's weapon from when he was alive kind of suggests Batman was fine with killing criminals since at least before 10 years ago.
Yeah. I just read that which makes all of this even dumber. Robin also kills? Batman breaks his one rule? Why would Gordon support him? Nothing about this is accurate to the batman mythos unless they're doing golden age batman. Man I hate the murderverse.
That's a fan theory, it's still never confirmed that his killing is a "Recent development" in his life.
And even if it was, that begs the question of Why he would kill as of recently, but not resort to it upon learning about people like the Joker...
There are so many things wrong with the screen play of this film, it's just astounding.
Honest trailers - Smallville (2001-2012)
Heck yeah
Smallville ran for 11 years!? Holy shit...
Well they did have 11 seasons, season 11 had Barbara Gordon as nightwing
Alex crespo is Awesome Sauce I remember seeing that thing when I was a kid. The only memory I have is an episode opening with a woman eating a deer or something.
You mean Amy Adams before she was Lois Lane
The title at the end was comedy gold "can't do them all justice". Luther's list, "an actual bat", one syllable word burn, what an excellent honest trailer!
I always just thought the Martha scene was supposed to symbolize Batman realizing that if he killed Superman right then, he would've been no better than the criminal who killed Bruce's parents. Those were the dying words of his father, the words that showed that Thomas Wayne died trying to save his family. And that if Bruce killed Superman right then, he would've been the same thing that he swore to fight against. That's what I took away from it anyway.
That's what basically everyone understood from the scene.
People's complaints have more to do with how dumb the scene comes off.
Superman starts calling his mom Martha because.....because.....the plot needs to move forward, and Batman, despite Superman proving he knows who Batman is and reasonably could have googled his basic life story, starts screaming like a moron "*Why Did You Say That Name!?!*.
That is until Lois Lane comes into the scene and proves how important she is by doing the first *actually* important thing she's done in the movie that doesn't involve being rescued!
Did he have to continuously scream "Why did you say that name?" For that?
+avi Mittal
because he saw a vission of her mother's coffin and Superman saying it got him confused - maybe Superman knows something about it?
+TabalugaDragon he didn't see a vision. he had a dream. why would he think that superman knows something? Superman was talking Martha like she's alive.
Avi Mittal it was a vision sent by Flash. And it's because of that it confused Bruce. Anyone would get confused after what Batman was through
"The Man of Steel, you know and FEAR"
I lost it
I'm dead
clear!!!
2xucan I love it, scares the shit out of me, he just didn't balance it with any smiles :(
+F0XCL0UD he did smile when he saved the girl from the fire
he also smiled when he was with Lois
It was dumb. The climax of the movie is based on Batman discovering that he and Superman have mothers with the same name. So the greatest detective in the world that 's done enough homework to not only discover Superman's weaknesses, but also coordinate the fight to take him down, never ran across the fact that both their mothers have the same first name? Yeah, right. I'm cool with suspense of disbelief, but this is just asking for suspense of brain activity. Not gonna happen.
Wow, talk about people that don't understand that scene.
+WannaKnowMyName I understand the scene. I think what you don't understand are the circumstances leading up to it.
Nathan Zimmerman I understand that that moment of realization that Bruce and Clark have mothers with the same name, and that's the only person that crossed Clark's mind as he was about to die, was powerful enough to see some form of humanity in Clark.
But batman should have already known about the name similarity as soon as he started researching superman!!! He's the world's greatest detective. He beats his opponents by knowing them better than they know themselves.
He would have known about Martha and wouldn't have been shocked when superman said her name. That would have led him to not care and kill superman. Or he doesn't fight him in the first place. At any rate, that scene either doesn't happen, or batman kills superman.
+Akinola Emmanuel no it was about Batman realising that Superman actually has a mother and that he left Superman defenceless in the same manner his parents killer left him.
You Dont E.N.O Again, that's a piece of information he would know from the very beginning when he was researching Superman. It wasn't that he had a mother, of course it would be assumed that he had one, it was about the name.
3:23 the WonderWoman cameo was by far the best part of this movie.
For anyone who really wants to see a GOOD Batman vs. Superman fight, go watch the animated version of "The Dark Knight Returns". Seriously, it is about ten times better than this dreck.
Or the Batman Superman movie their interaction is much better
Ikr that cartoon was awesome like most DC animations.
That's the thing, dc makes amazing cartoons, while marvel is doing amazing with movies
Or they can watch World's Finest
The Dark Knight Returns is good, but BvS handled the characters much better. In TDKR Superman is working for the government, and is taking orders from the president. because the president tells him to take in Batman . . . he does. Even though Batman's his oldest friend. I'm sorry, but that's just stupid. Why is Superman suddenly a completely different character? TDKR is an else-worlds story, and the characters are too different, so the conflict isn't relatable. In BvS, Superman has no choice but to fight. He remains the same character. They did it better in BvS.
I hope the Wonder Woman movie be good.
Written by Geoff Johns and Allan Heinberg, who wrote DC comics together several times.
Cool lol
Please don't screw that up
people keep saying the studio keeps screwing with the film
hell yhea
shut up !!!!
Batman : Do You Bleed?
Superman : Yeah, Twice A Week.
Batman: .....
Catastrophe Cause alot of damage to Emerald Weapon.
Catastrophe Cause Depends if you have kryptonite . . .
@@filimongalogavros5301 Or just be a Doomsday or Darkseid or some other high level threat
Catastrophe Cause
He donates plasma?
Lmao 🤣🤣🤣
"Why did you say that name"
Who came back here after the Justice League and Wonder Women trailers hit?
me
same here
dido
Im stuck on this video forever (until some1 deletes it)😅😃
Fc
For the last time the "Martha" scene made perfect sense. All Bruce knew about Superman was that he was all powerful, thought to be a god, and that death followed him wherever he went. However, as his hand was at the Man of Steel's throat, Clark didn't beg for mercy, and he didn't beg for forgiveness. What the Superman wanted was for Batman to save an old woman. Clark would've died for his mother and everyone he loved (which he did btw) and he obviously knew that the only person that could help him save his mother was in fact Bruce Wayne if he himself would not live. The fact that "Martha" was the name of Bruce's mother may have been a coincidence, but it wouldn't have mattered. In his final moments, the god wanted his adopted mother to be saved. This triggered the realization that Clark was no less human than the rest of us. His story is of a god trying to be more human than humans are themselves. He was selfless and brave and that's what Bruce recognized. I'm tired of people criticizing it because it didn't make sense to them.
That's not true. Right before Bruce goes for the kill, he mentions Superman's parents. And like Superman, he is aware of the other's secret identity.
Not only that, but Superman just called him Bruce before they fought. So he shouldn't even be surprised over Superman using the name to save himself.
especially a bitter Batman that kills first and asks questions later.
and what the hell are you talking about, begging forgiveness? Why the hell would Superman beg for forgiveness after he tried to KILL Batman? Or have you actually forgotten the line of dialogue where Superman says that either he will talk to him or KILL HIM. And then he tries TWICE to punch him as hard as he can and he's shocked that it didn't work.
Superman has no right to beg for forgiveness because just like Batman, he was (at one point in the fight) going in for the kill.
Thats what that scene is intended to mean. Batman seeing humanity in superman, but it was poorly directed and turned into a cringe joke.
No, but even if Batman see humanity in superman, how does that make a difference? Batman above all else KNOW that humanity can be incredibly broken. Why? Because of himself. Remember this line?
"20 years in Gotham Alfred, we've seen what promises are worth, how many good guys are left? How many stay that way?"
This Batman doesnt considered himself a good guy ANYMORE, which is true. Other Batman always believe on a core level that Superman is a good guy, but this Batman doesnt. So why should Superman having humanity matter in the long run, from this Batman point of view?
i enjoy the movie the first half with lex setting superman up an batman doing detective work was all cool dont see how any one whos a fan could hate it the only problem was that lex would get to silly at times problems the fight takes a little to long to get to an superman is a little to mopey but i get were hes coming from people hate him over nothing the actual fight was bad ass lex manipulating them was cool but it begs the question how the hell did he know who batman was superman i understand but batman no the actual fight even though superman should have tried harder to tell batman what was happening was still awesome an the only realistic way it could have been done the martha thing was silly an a weak resolution because it feels to easy but the batman scene in the war house is by far one of the best action scenes on film an more then makes up for it dooms day is fine he is only a plot device in the comics same as here but how he comes into the movie with the whole gene splicing is a interesting way to do but should have been written better the justice league cameos were put in at the wrong time but were still cool for anyone who wants to see these guys wonderwoman was a little under used but she was a side character an was a total bad ass an awesome at the end which more then made up for it the ending battle with superman being hit by a nuke an coming back to life an sacrificing himself was all awesome dont see how any one couldnt like it on a pure fun action level an them teaming up to bring down dooms day was cool wonder woman holding him batman weakening him an superman spearing him was all cool the finale shot of the dirt rising on supermans grave was a great hopeful way to leave the film if you care for superman all in all really good first half with a villain whos a little over the top at times with a over long middle but a fun fight an great batman scene with a fun ending battle together make a muddled an shotty written in places but all in all pretty good superhero drama action flick i think some people expected a movie about two guys punching each other to be some oscar flick or something lol the ultimate cut takes a pretty good but not great flick an makes it great by adding a more fleshed out story that gives the film more heart especially in the superman funeral scene still not amazing but for a silly idea of a batman fighting a demi god it is a great muddled but entertaining drama action flick
My biggest gripe about this movie was that the entire main fight between Clark and Bruce was hinged on a lack of communication.
but 10/10 would watch again for just Wonder Woman.
You'd watch a two and a half or three hour movie for maybe 10 minutes of Wonder Woman?
Some people are easy to please.
Hey there bud, I never said ACTIVELY watch...
Fair enough.
civil war couldve been fixed with a convo
Jack Wilbz I guess it just goes to show that men can't communicate for shit lmaooooooo
5:49, "who's idea was it to cram so much into one movie?" So true!!!
Calling Lex Max Landis is a bold move coming from screen junkies.
Max seems fine with it: twitter.com/Uptomyknees/status/755461807666376704
It's just a joke.
Me too. I was worried Max would rant on Twitter but good thing that he took it like a gentleman.
Max is a self-made man LOL
It was a friendly jab... they like Landis (hey c'mon we all do pretty much)
also Eisenberg said he based the performance on him
Did anyone else read Lex's entire plan?
I tried to, but stopped after about 30% because most of it was either a lie or misrepresented.
+TheZurreal what r u taking about? Everything is 100% correct
I did
I did. I paused the video to do so. It was 100% accurate.
I did. It gave me a small migraine.
It's not because they have the same mom names it's because he learned that superman has humanity
Superman : please .. save Jessica !
Batman : Who the f is Jessica ? *stabs superman and turn him into Kebab"
+sghaier mohamed actually no.
IT"S STUPID... trying to pretend that people just don't understand, doesn't make it less stupid.
+sghaier mohamed Ya, that would be better. lol
sghaier mohamed butthurt
This never gets old I've seen this eight times already and still think its funny and true.
Lol me too this is at least 6 or 7 for me
And "The Battle of the Century between Critics and Fans" was taken by the Suicide Squad.
Now its the war of the century DC fanboys vs Critics... And Rotten Tomatoes is being caught in the crossfire.
I'd say it is "DC Fanboys vs Anyone with Taste"
Ryder R It would be bigotry if I hated DC across the board. But I love DC. I hate BvS. It was crap. Most people think so. Get over it.
I support the fans, Suicide squad was good in my opinion
I'm a fan and I can't stand that movie.
why was batman so willing to kill superman but not lex luthor or the joker...you know...the actual bad guys? and guy has been the world's greatest detective for more than 20 years and only started doing actual detective work in 2016 but somehow thought superman was the bad guy
Because Superman can kill a hundred maybe ?? But Superman can destroy the planet.
Michael Eno i hate you ,batman was afraid of superman and consumed by his nightmares ,so he tried to kill superman because he thinks this is the right thing to do if he wants to protect the world and that's why he kills people ,his fear made him a cold blooded killer and he spared superman because he saw that he was like him ,they both lost everything ,not just because their mothers have the same names ,so the next one who says martha i kill him
Thank you dude, finally somebody read dark knight and see Batman v Superman and understand it.
AZAEL_ES same here ,so many people hate this movie because they didn't read the comics
bruce oriakhi even if it's not close to the comics it's still based on it ,lex luthor's story ,robin's death ,why batman kills people ,you can know all of these things only if you read the comics
For the last time people, it's not that we don't understand the Martha scene, it was poorly executed.
Ditto. It's funny seeing all these people crying "You just don't understand the scene because you like spoonfed stories" when they probably can't read a book longer than 80 pages.
savage
Not to mention, it wasn't really necessary, they could have made Doomsday interrupt their fight, Superman and batman start fighting it, and during the fighgt, they learn a bit about each other and that it was all a setup as Lex brags about it (since in this movie, Lex is a dumbass chatterbox, wouldn't be far-fetched he would brag about his evil plan while they fight doomnsday expecting'em to die)...see? I wrote their fight better than Snyder in one paragraph xD
+Jack Weldon so understanding something means you're not entitled to an opinion that it was poorly executed? Okay gotcha
Yesssss. The Martha moment just confused the shit out of me.
Watched this years ago before watching Breaking Bad. Now that I've watched it, that Hector Salamanca part totally got me
The "Martha" thing could have been brilliant in a good writer's hands. The Problem. David Goyer wrote it.
Dude's a hack...
lol pretty much, if they had placed it in the right moment and had maybe been kind of leading up to their reconciliation and that was the thing that really clicked then it could have gone over so much better. However Batman had seemingly few second thoughts about killing Superman then totally changed his mind from that one awkwardly placed plea.
Scott Snyder...enough said.
David Goyer is one of the most least talented screenwriters in the biz, that also for some reason has a lot of ignorance and animosity towards comic book properties. Why they keep letting him work on them is beyond me.
Everyone think's he's good just because he co-wrote The Dark Knight trilogy
Wrong. He wrote the script but it was a bigger mess than the last draft so WB called Terrio to polish it but Terrio is a mediocre writer too who can't handle a lot of plotlines so he didn't polish it at all.
Now do "Captain America: CIVIL WAR"
gotta wait 4 dvd release
Well, not too much time
+Carlos Ariel ya it comes out next month cant wait
Next Month
yeah. Worst movie ever
DC fans be like:
"But at least it's dark and it's not relying on comic relief like Marvel movies"
me:
"one word: MARTHAAAA...!!!"
Me: Three Words: Daredevil Season 2.
BUUUUUCKY!!!!!
+Zack Snyder owns Hack Nolan nope
Dark vs Light tone doesn't make any of these movies good or bad
That scene makes far more sense and is executed better than the scene in BvS.
6:45
*BEST TITLE EVER*
This one had the single most hilarious satirical title at the end out of all the Honest Trailers so far.