@@bleuebloom yea that is true for all products. I think there are 2 groups one group is really into this and likes learning and tinkering with Home Theater equipment. The 2nd group just wants to know what to buy, they don't really care about all the nuances, they just want to play music and movies easily. All of these systems are very similar, some do somethings better and others do other things. I have never heard the Sonos Arc with the rear speakers, but I Leo the idea that Sonos gear can be mixed and matched, that would be very helpful for me, but probably not for everyone.
About the Sound drop outs: I was fortunate to get the HT-A9 in its first month of release so I’ve had it now for quite awhile. Sound drop outs were an issue (every few days drop outs would start and get worse). I found that going into the advanced set up menu and toggling the RF channel from on/off/on would fix it. I’m glad to report that since the last software update, the sound drops outs have completely disappeared! I can’t remember the last time I’ve had to use my “fix”.
I purchased my Sonos Arc system almost two years ago. However, I find myself consistently coming back to your channel for stuff like this. This is one of your best works and you should be proud. Hope you continue to keep building and posting.
Great review. As Jim mentioned below, my Sony HT A9 hasn't suffered the same problems as you mentioned. Drop out disappeared after I separated various Bluetooth devices near the control box and followed some advice from other users. I've also not suffered from the lack of a central channel; voices sound perfectly natural to me coming from the front speakers. IMHO a great system.
I own 990B for almost 2 years n the sound is absolutely fantastic n music with tidal it sound great 👍 it slight percentage below my audiophile system. If u add dac it sound even great. No regrets guys
I own it for almost 2 years n the sound is absolutely fantastic n music with tidal it sound great 👍 it slight percentage below my audiophile system. If u add dac it sound even great. No regrets guys
I just bought the 990C for $756 through an EPP discount direct with Samsung. Essentially 1/3 of the Sonos Arc setup. I own the Arc with sub in our living room and love it. The Samsung will be in my finished basement.
thanks for the in-depth video!!! i bought the 990b during black friday and mostly wanted validation for my purchase lol. Awesome video! I watched your full review of the 990b before my purchase so i knew what i was getting into. thanks again and keep rocking it!!!
Once sonos releases surrounds with upfiring it’ll be a game changer in the competition. I wouldn’t even see a reason to even buy a different brand - sonos has no issues and if they do they’re fixed in a week or two. Its the best overall company for longevity, stability, and consistency. I also find it funny the arc (nearly 3yrs old) with the full system still competes with current bar systems especially samsung. The system itself still sounds stellar.
I ended up with the Q990B from the same choices but would have absolutely gotten the HTA9 if it didn't cost so much more than then Samsung. Objectively fair review.
You are a madman! A one hour video on soundbar reviews on youtube is a first for me, but higly appreciated since you can get all the information on the top competitors in just one vid. Congratulations and I hope your channel grows! I just wish there were reviewers such as you in Europe as well, since for us the price/availability is not the same as in the States. For example, I got a Q950A for 600$ when the Arc + Sub was close to 1500$. So it was a no brainer. But If the prices were closer to each other, I would have preferred the Arc. Q990B is still too expensive right now to consider an upgrade and I feel that only the Sub would be improved (and the damn display that's not on top anymore). Looking forward to the next big thing in home entertainment space!
Thanks for going into great deal with the comparisons. I love the movie theater sounds, so I know what I'm choosing.. Thanks, your work is appreciated ❤
Must say most comprehensive reviews of soundbars out there. Measurements would up the game. Especially on the subs (frequency response and SPL without compression). Very good job.
I think what's kinda missing is price range in the comparison. Look at the launch price, average price and prices on good deals. Not just US, but also European prices since they do seem to vary wildly quite a bit. Price is the one thing that really puts things into perspective. I mean, with a $1900 Q990B and a $1000 Cinema 1200, a Cinema 1200 seems like it may be worth consider. But what if you live in Europe and can get a Q990B for less than the Cinema 1200, for example? Of course prices do change constantly, but I think giving a range would put things in some good perspective. It may persuade someone to spend a tiny bit more for a top-end bar on a good deal than one that's pretty much entry level for the high-end if the person sees their prices aren't that far apart, when they would otherwise go for the latter because reviews say it's a lot cheaper than the competition... which isn't really true when taking deals into account.
I have the Samsung Q990B and I love it, it is definitely impressive and sounds Superb whether I watch movies, regular tv or listen to music it was definitely worth the $1800 I paid when I bought it mid 2022
Your script is really good. Great job! Could you eventually create a series of soundbar systems you recommend for small living rooms of 150 sq ft for people who live in condominium units? Thank you!
You'll have to keep watching until the new Nakamichi Dragon soundbar system gets widely reviewed. If you desire to have the very best, this system is it. Nothing may ever touch it.
@@jjaisudhan The bass of the Q990b is much better than the previous models according to all reviewers. It feels better than my KEF speakers with a REL Q200E sub. (Mostly Balance). I love this setup.
@@marvinmurakami8828 I couldn’t find a shop in the Netherlands to try the Dragon soundbar. I also bought a Samsung TV so the Q990b was only €800 additional (last year). I’m never going to spend a lot of money on my equipment again. Everything gets outdated anyway. This way I could buy a new system earlier anyway. (From a price perspective)
@@jjaisudhan bass in movies is impressive but when I play songs bass seems to be bit weak. I enjoy watching movies with this speakers than listening to songs.
@Jai Sudhan yes, the Bass is weak but that is ok for Apartment livers like me. I have a concrete floor that reflects bass nicely. If I lived in a house where I wouldn't disturb neighbors like i use to I would have a 15" Subwoofer. Just depends on your setting you have it set up in. For an apartment it's more that enough, I have to turn it down most of the time.
@@TOdoubledizzle24 Thank you!! By the way today i finally purchased Q990b rather than waiting for Jbl1000. Today i will be getting delivered. What settings you suggest to get good bass from q990b?
Really appreciate the thoroughness in this video comparing all of these different systems! Incredibly helpful and definitely something I’ll come back to when it’s time to make a purchasing decision. Hope you’re right and this is your biggest video yet, you deserve it.
I have bought the Sony HT-A9 over the Samsung Q990B, only because of the big soundbar in front of the television (dont have the space). But i have to tell you the A9 is amazing, no drop outs whatsoever, maby its something in your room that is conflicting? Great video.
I'm biased of course (because I have an A7000 with the RS5 speakers and the big sub) but imo this set up gives you much if not everything you want from the A9s but eliminates any lack of center channel concerns. Its the best way to go if you want to keep things simple and keep one's SO off one's back. Not cheap though granted.
@@jjaisudhan i dont have jbl but what i can say, q990b bass is a beast. Setting max +6 for bass & everything like a cinema experience even the volume set at 15. My current setup only limit at dd+ because dont have shield tv pro for dolby atmos + dts ma. And i cant do more then 25 volume ( maintain at 0 bass for peace of mind) or my neighbour will knocking the door. My living room is 20 ft x 18 ft x 10 ft height & my living room placement is go through to the kitchen but the sound produced from the soundbar + rear speaker (mounted to the wall) still very good
@@jjaisudhan good decision! Just auto eq after setting up the rear speaker . Best rear speaker placement for me is around head lvl when u sitting at the sofa. But wife factor make me mount it slightly higher (5-10cm above head lvl) but still doable bcause my speaker mount can be tilt 180 dgree. For me best setting for movie is surround. Music either adaptive or standard depend on yyour taste. And for rear speaker, u can adjust rear channel volume in smartthngs apps. I set max (+6) for rear speaker bcoz my sofa and the speaker is about 3-4ft. If set at 0 (default), the sound is too soft.
I have the samsung one, and man was I blown away. I previously had a klipsch system with denon av receiver, but i think the Samsung sound bar is actually better. Insane I know.
I will probably get HTA9 in future to pair it with my A-95k TV . I think center channel should not be problem if you pair it with sony any flagship TV which can be used as center channel.
Don’t know how you sensed, but I was wanting you to make this comparison since I started shopping around Black Friday! Thanks for the thorough video! I settled on Sonos, but wasn’t really wowed by it. I am thinking of replacing it with 990B whenever it comes in stock 🤔
Well done! 100% agree that there is some blend that would work best. Sonos: modularity, software and long term support HTA9: wireless multidirectional powered speakers with DSP smarts
I have the HT-A9 hooked up to a Sony 83A90J TV. I am using the TV speakers as the centre channel. It sounds fantastic. I suspect Sony deliberately tuned the HT-A9 to match the speakers in their TV’s that have Acoustic Surface Audio (the screen is the speaker(s)). I agree with you that it doesn’t sound great using TV speakers as the centre with most TV’s. Having said that , the HT-A9’s ability to create a phantom centre is remarkable. BTW your reviews are absolutely the best. Honest, complete with no fanboy BS. Thanks so much for making them !
I have been a Sonos user for probably 8 years. It started at first with a playbar in the living room. Then we added a gen 1 sub, then a playbar for the bedroom, and gen2 play 1s for surrounds. The one thing I have really liked is we have been able to add over time and everything has been easy to add and set up. I recently added an Arc and Sub mini to the bedroom, replacing a playbar. I am very happy with it. I have been able to expand and improve the Sonos eco system as time and budget allows. For a long time I was disappointed with the lack of DTS support, but in the last 3 years, I have realized that we typically only stream movie and shows to the Sonos systems and most don’t use DTS. Discs with DTS HD/X are watched where we have a HT speaker set up. Finally, I think Trueplay is an issue for Android because of the variability in hardware across the platforms/ manufacturers. With iOS, Sonos can calibrate with known mics in iPhones. It does sometimes take a little while to work with some new iPhones as they are released so I suspect they have to update when the mic is changed with the new model. This has been an issue for quite a while, and you would think Sonos would find a way to address it…. Maybe find a way to support a few of the most popular Android devices? Anyways great comparison.
I LOVE this concept!!!!! It’s exactly what I was thinking about regarding wisa or some way of connecting all 5-7-9.X system without having to invest on all of the wires, a/v receiver, etc! Essentially a soundbar like setup, but able to just purchase and install wireless and amplified speakers as you can. Whether it be thru wireless adaptors or built in wireless speaker like how they do it with wireless subs. For example, you could run the Klipsch powered tower speakers up front, some kind of powered or amplified center speaker tied in with tv speakers (q-symphony), powered rear and sides like the klipsch R-41/51pm or 5,7,9’s. Then of course up to 4 subs as can be afforded :) that leaves the atmos overhead, I think this would be the biggest benefit of all in that you won’t have to run any wires or anything except power of course. And I feel like the overhead speakers could be anything even if it needs the wireless adaptor. As a renter, we can’t make major mods like cutting holes in the ceiling etc. I was trying to build a system like this with WISA or something like the Platin system. But from what I know, all truly wireless speaker surround sound systems max out at THX specs. I believe I saw some new JBL powered surround speakers. Not sure. I’m trying to be as specific as possible, but I think this new Dolby wifi 2.4g/5ghz connection could actually work out well. Ps. Since you have a dragon, how does the dragon compare to the other high end systems out there? Like the Platin systems (Monaco), the Enclave system, and that new JBL crazy expensive setup that uses the passive soundbar setup, (can’t find the article now) but klipsch, Elac, Martin also make similar passive soundbars. *would prob need to have a good receiver to make all that work. But I’m hoping that this Dolby atmos wireless tech would replace the need for a dedicated DSP. Any thoughts?? 🎉 Pps. Dunno if it’s just me, but your vids seem to have gotten wayyyy more detailed and “on point” since the move!!!! 😊
Sony HTA9 is pure class, loved listening to music and watching movies. will recommend as well. Do have a review on Philips B97 i have purchased and still ready to be unpacked. great reviews of that system as well from other viewers from mainly Europe. very underrated soundbar though
I’ve tried to get my hands on the B97 … doesn’t seem to want to make its make it state side … not sure why Philips doesn’t aim for a bigger NA presence
Excellent top notch review in which I learnt a few new tasty bits n bobs to consider (!) >> For me the Samsung Q990B just edges the Sony HTA9 >> however, the imaginary future iterations would make for the perfect investment, considering these sound solutions cost more than the TV's they are enhancing... mint review cheers 👌💯👀🎯😎🌟
I went all in on the Sonos Arc System. 2 Fives, dual subs. Sounds insane. I wish I could add the in-ceiling speakers that they sell to get full overhead sound.
Nice job. That took a lot of work on your part. I have the ARC and A-9, as well as a regular system. I'm growing tired of all the cables and placement issues with my dedicated speakers and was considering simplifying my life. I've heard a couple reviews now not loving the A-9 for music. What's interesting to me, is I actually liked it for the rock I have played through it so far. I put on the Back in Black CD last night, completely expecting to be let down, but I wasn't. It just sounded like old school full range speakers to me, and I evaluate a system by whether I forget to critique it and just listen, which is exactly what happened. No dropouts so far but would love more impactful, tighter bass. The ARC sounds more refined with batter bass, but it does sound a little muffled to me. Still want to try the Samsung. Thanks for your review and hard work.
@@neverenoughtech I'm afraid it's still going back though. The system is good for what it is, and if you get an open box at Best Buy or wherever, it's not a bad deal, but it's still missing a little weight for me. Thanks again.
Great comparison. When the Klipsch was first announced full DTS support was promised. I was so triggered by Klipsch taking it away for their FLAGSHIP soundbar I won’t ever consider a Klipsch product. I have too many 1080p Blu-ray Discs with DTS so support is mandatory. The Arc was out too, even though it now sort of supports DTS, what’s the point? The TV likely won’t pass it. I ended up with the Sony. I do have an occasional dropout, maybe 2-3 in a weekend. I don’t know if it’s a wireless or an eARC issue. But I’m delighted with the sound. One of my best sounding discs is Master and Commander in good old DTS, it blows away any Atmos stream I’ve yet heard and is better than many Atmos 4K Blu-ray’s. I wish I could crank up the volume on the upfiring drivers though as overhead effects can be subtle, but that’s not a reflection on the system. The Atmos demo disc will show you what this Sony system is capable of, when sound engineers turn Atmos loose!!!
I have had an HT-A9 for just under two weeks. The problem I have with the system is by default it wants to use the 360 Mapping technology to upscale all content including 2.0 and 5.1 content. Coming from a 5.1 system, I noticed this immediately. Audio that is supposed to be coming from specifically the front left speaker is also at a lower level being heard from the front left height, the front right and right front height and even from the right rear surround. I assume this is to provide the immersive effect for 5.1 audio. Personally I do not like it. With that said, the system has a setting where you can turn off all the 360 Mapping. After doing so, 2.0 and 5.1 content plays from the speakers they were designed to play from while Atmos content is mapped to all 8 speakers (front left, front left height, front right, front right height, rear left, rear right height, rear right, rear right height). The problem is, the system has a software bug when running in that setting where Atmos content that should be mapped to the rear height speakers is simply discarded. They the audio isn't mapped to other speakers. It's just dropped. So, you miss content. Because of this, I have to switch in and out of 360 Mapping mode depending on whether I'm playing 2.0, 5.1 or Atmos content until the bug is fixed (if it ever is). Atmos content plays pretty well under the 360 Mapping as is the nature of Atmos. Its just annoying to have to keep switching sound effect mode.
I paid $1k for Nakamichi back in 2020. Vowed never to go that high again. Almost slipped up & got a Sonos system but seen that $3k price tag. I went full Home Theater. Soundbar prices have gotten too out of control
Thanks for the info! I just purchased the samsung today for $800 which i thought was a great price. Really hope theres no connectivity issues that i have read about but we shall see.
Great comparison, very informative, no useless talking. That's what we want! Now waiting for B97, seems interesting especially in pure sound quality category. It will be nice to compare best music playing soundbar with good quality stereo set - will it be such big gap between them as we should expect or...maybe not?
I want to do that video but I think maybe just you would watch … could be wrong … I think the arc v SVS prime wireless pro would be an interesting comparison … about the same price I don’t think I can get the b97 in the states. Give me a link if I’m wrong
Awesome content 👏. I wanted to try Sony A9 but it's way too expensive. You could find Samsung q990b around $1000 usd now a days (I did) so it's a great value. It lacks Chromcast in USA, so one may buy a $19 Google Chromcast just for the soundbar.
Thing which imho is the top pick by miles is the q990b no one can match it for price. It's less then half the price of the Sonos which is not even close to twice as good.
@@kazino21 I got mine for $1500 aud about the same as yours. The Sonos setup is over 3k with sub and rears. If I want something in another room I'll just buy another one.
I don't listen to music in my basement home theater setup. Is the 990B going to be that much more impressive for movies and atmos effects than the Arc setup?
If you are wanting to watch mostly cinematic movies and you are not entrenched in the Sonos ecosystem - I think the Q990B is a solid choice. It is a more impressive sounding system
I had the full Sonos system paired to an older tv (no eARC) for a month and decided to return sub gen 3 and one SL's and only keep the arc for a year. During the sale last month I got a pair of One SL's again but kept in bedroom to use for music and returned the Arc and replaced with Samsung Q990B. Apple TV 4K and XBOX S.X connected to Q990B gets the best sound from streaming services or media and Samsungs 4K 60Hz HDMI input limitation doesn't matter since current TV also has that limitation. Future TV with eARC and 4K 120Hz will get best video signal connected directly to these two devices and output sound to Q990B and I'll be set for many years to come.
That is a late 22 video. So it had not yet been announced. This is the video you are looking for Nakamichi Dragon vs Sonos & Era 300 & Sub vs Samsung Q990C vs Sony HTA9 w/ SW5 ua-cam.com/video/W-TYTCa7dNo/v-deo.html
Thank you. I watched it. How would you compare the Dragon to the Klipsch Rp8000f? Its comparable in price and seems like a lot more sound. Thanks!@@neverenoughtech
I'm thinking about buying a soundbar. It must be all in one, without a sub. - Philips Fidelio TAFB1 (Atmos, DTS:X, Imax) - BOSE Smart Ultra (Atmos only) - Sonos Arc (Atmos, without DTS:X) - Sony HT-A7000 (Atmos and DTS:X) I had TAFB1 and I had a good opinion about it, but it broke down. Should I choose another model now? I would like the best Atmos/Surround effects (from VOD, I don't have Blue-Ray) and some good music. I also have an Xbox console. According to Rtings, Sonos is probably the best (but it suits me the least - no BT, no DTS:X - I think it's important, additional purchase of a strip for mounting on the wall), then Bose and then Sony, but they haven't tested Fidelio. But maybe your opinion is different 😊
Omg I am only at the beginning of the video. But really loving how structured your content is ! Can’t you control the A9 through the interface with your tv remote? I think that’s what Sony is counting on. With the A9, I see 4.1.4 and 7.1.4 advertised at different prices… kinda assumed the 7.1.4 has more speakers in each thingy
You can control the A9 volume with the TV remote - not the other functions unless paired with a Sony tv. The 7.1.4 is the “promotional” channel count with spatial sound mapping (12 phantom speakers)- while the A9 is priced differently based on time and seller it’s a 4.1.4 system
thank you for your effort on this comparison i followed up to the end but you never talked about the sub how deep are they and which subwoofers delivers more deep base .
Just fyi you can take a larger capacity USB stick and make an 8gb partition and just leave the rest of the capacity unallocated. You may need to delete the existing full capacity partition and then create the new 8GB one.
But to be honest if their system is going to ask for a USB stick in the year of our lord 2023 AND require only 8gb of capacity to work then they should have a software utility as a part of their firmware update file that automatically creates this partition when you run it so that it doesn't matter what size USB you use. I guess that could be a problem though for people that don't have the know how and are left with only 8gb of their USB stick lmao
I got the Arc because I had already adopted the Sonos ecosystem. Pairing it with 5’s in the back makes a big difference. Good solid set up, not something that blows me away but pleasant and occasionally moving.
J’avais sonos arc one 2 sub pendant 2 ans j ai tout revendu c est vrai que le son est très bon les Bass sont magnifiques les voix pour les dialogues sont clair pour écouter la musique par rapport a d’autre barre de son il est bien mieux que la plupart mais sa s’arrête la mais pour le cinema aucun effet Atmos, aucun effet de transition avant a arrière déçus par l’expérience cinema j’ai pris le Sony ht a9 avec sub sw5 TV sony A95K sa n a rien avoir l’expérience est vraiment vraiment au dessus les même film que je mettais avec le sonos sa a rien avoir je conseille vraiment le ht a9 pour les film il surpasse pour moi sonos et meme le Samsung q990B que j ai essayer qui est tres bien aussi mais pour seulement les film HT A9 avec bien sur le sub et si possible TV récente le TOP
Planning to replace my Nakamichi 7.2.4 with the Sonos Arc with a second sub and Fives as rears. The Arc has been out for awhile and I don't know if a newer version is in the works or soon to be released like they did with 1st and 2nd Gen Beam system?
I have a Nakamichi 7.2.4 with my LG OLED 77" C1. Just haven't been able to dial in the sound and I have a "muffled" sound that cuts in/out randomly. My office has a Sonos Beam Gen 1, Gen 3 Sub, and 2 IKEA Symfonisk bookshelf speakers as surrounds with a LG OLED 55" C1. The Sonos has a richer, fuller, crisper, clearer, and can deliver more bass compared to the Nakamichi. Thinking about upgrading to the Sonos Arc system; but, add a second sub and Sonos Fives as rear surrounds.
@@marvinmurakami8828 I just purchased the Arc, two Gen 3 Subs, and two Fives as rear surrounds. My Nakamichi 7.2.4 sporadic "muffling" sound was getting worse and we had to turn the soundbar off just to watch TV. The Nakamichi Dragon is probably the new standard for soundbars. Being able to add more the already flexible Sonos ecosystem is very easy and future proofs me for more speakers or component upgrades.
Great video, lots of details, thanks for making it! You confirmed that for me it would seem as the next step could very well be the Samsung 990, coming from an old Sonos Playbar and not having the space for separate speakers. Now one last thing I can't find anywhere, maybe you can help: does the Samsung 990 appear as a speaker to Spotify, or does it need the phone to stream over bluetooth?
what's your Equalizer setting and channel levels fr q990b? what 4K player are you using? is Xbox one X okay? can you recommend calibration discs to test tone all 11.1.4 channels (or 22 channels, however many there are total)
Ive been debating the sonos immersive with era 300s, sony hta-9 and waiting for the nakamichi dragon. My wife liked the lovesac stealthtec but i have to believe all these options will be better..... ?
Best movie sound: Q990B Best for music: Q990B Worst movie sound: Sonos Arc 3rd out of 4th place for music: Sonos Arc Very obvious winner overal: Sonos Arc The Sonos Arc does seem to be the most convenient one, but I can't say I'd call any system the best if it's not the best in what matters the most... which is enhancing the sound experience. Besides that, the Q990B seems to have the best prices by far. The Klipsch Cinema 1200 is the cheapest by far, but it's also the worst by far. Meanwhile Samsung's Q990B is easily gotten for about €1000 or less in Europe (I got mine for for less than €900). Even in the US Samsung's Q990B prices seem to go far lower on deals than the Sonos Arc and Sony HTA9. So in terms of price/performance... I'd also give it to the Q990B.
@@jjaisudhan I think it's pretty good overal, but... it's a bit on the complex side. The bass seems to vary rather wildly depending on the mode you use and the type of content you're playing. > Using 'surround' mode and 'adaptive' mode for movies and games seems to result in a bit of a low bass. I'd recommend putting it at least to +2 or +3 for a 'pleasant' kind of bass, but if you really want some more oomph you can go up to +5 or +6 (which is max). I still wouldn't call it mindblowingly deep in that mode though, but... > Using 'standard' mode for movies and games seems add A LOT more bass. In fact, if I use standard mode I often do it to -2 or so because even 0 is often too much for movies in this mode (IMO). I think people who really want bass might be satisfied with +1 or +2. Can't say I've tried +6 in this mode for movies, but I imagine it's just too much for most. > Using 'surround' or 'adaptive' mode for music, there is a decent amount of bass. Not just spotify or youtube music, also music used in movies. Basically any type of music. Haven't really used standard much for musical content since it defaults to stereo... and I'm actually very fond of how it handles music in adaptive. I think ultimately it depends on what you want. There's some ways to get a huge amount of bass out of this, but it seems to be restricted to the standard mode for some reason. I have no idea why the amount of bass is different per mode. I think it should be equal in every mode and +6 in 1 mode should be the same as +6 in another. But now we have dumb stuff like 0 in standard mode with 5.1 movies having as much bass as +4 or +5 in adaptive/surround mode, that's just... stupid. That issue aside, I dunno if the JBL is better for music. I've haven't tried it out myself and anything in terms of reviews and impressions seem to indicate that they're more or less equally good in terms of sound. The JBL 9.1 has more bass, but the Q990B seems to have a cleaner sounding bass. I think the Q990B offers a pretty hefty amount of bass and the maximum is too much for me for bass-heavy music tracks. But for someone who really wants DAT BASS, mayber the JBL 9.1 is the only way to go. I can't even max it out on my own Q990B without bothering the neighbours, so it's not for me.
@@thenonexistinghero Thank you soo much for your clear explanation!! Actually i have tried a demo of Q990b and Jbl9.1 in croma showroom.But in that open large space we dint find the bass coming out from q990b even at level +6 , and it is like we have to search for the bass effect but 9.1 has easily given a deep powerful bass even in that vast area. On disappointed in bass of q990b still i kept on hold to purchase and in confused state bcoz i loved q990b but seems it only missed the bass may be due to open space. i hope it is performing good in closed area like living room or hall as you say and also i will try in different modes while testing it and I will let you know what i am purchasing finally!! Thank you!!😊
This is the best comparison on UA-cam. Someone not afraid to rank the products.
Ur so right!!! It’s so annoying when a reviewer is like: idk which is the best, it depends on ur needs dawg
@@bleuebloom yea that is true for all products. I think there are 2 groups one group is really into this and likes learning and tinkering with Home Theater equipment. The 2nd group just wants to know what to buy, they don't really care about all the nuances, they just want to play music and movies easily. All of these systems are very similar, some do somethings better and others do other things. I have never heard the Sonos Arc with the rear speakers, but I Leo the idea that Sonos gear can be mixed and matched, that would be very helpful for me, but probably not for everyone.
About the Sound drop outs: I was fortunate to get the HT-A9 in its first month of release so I’ve had it now for quite awhile. Sound drop outs were an issue (every few days drop outs would start and get worse). I found that going into the advanced set up menu and toggling the RF channel from on/off/on would fix it. I’m glad to report that since the last software update, the sound drops outs have completely disappeared! I can’t remember the last time I’ve had to use my “fix”.
Still happy with the system ?
I purchased my Sonos Arc system almost two years ago. However, I find myself consistently coming back to your channel for stuff like this. This is one of your best works and you should be proud. Hope you continue to keep building and posting.
🙂 thanks!
Just bought Samsung Q990B before watching your very informative video and glad to see that i 've made the right choice.
Superb video.
Actually you are the first that mentions that the rear speakers on the Q990B can be used as front channels.
Top man.
Great review. As Jim mentioned below, my Sony HT A9 hasn't suffered the same problems as you mentioned. Drop out disappeared after I separated various Bluetooth devices near the control box and followed some advice from other users. I've also not suffered from the lack of a central channel; voices sound perfectly natural to me coming from the front speakers. IMHO a great system.
I own 990B for almost 2 years n the sound is absolutely fantastic n music with tidal it sound great 👍 it slight percentage below my audiophile system. If u add dac it sound even great. No regrets guys
I am using Q990B and this is the best soundbar in the market today. Crazy surround sound and bass is impressive.
I second this 💯🔥
I am eyeing new 2023 Q990C in March .
Does anyone have drop of rear and sub? My entire system went down in 2 weeks. It will no longer connect.
@@2324070933 they released an update to fix the bug
I own it for almost 2 years n the sound is absolutely fantastic n music with tidal it sound great 👍 it slight percentage below my audiophile system. If u add dac it sound even great. No regrets guys
Such a great review. These longer term use reviews are so valuable because the wow factor wheres off real quick when there are constant bugs.
Massive effort and high quality review as usual, continue the good work Dan!
Much appreciated!
I just bought the 990C for $756 through an EPP discount direct with Samsung. Essentially 1/3 of the Sonos Arc setup. I own the Arc with sub in our living room and love it. The Samsung will be in my finished basement.
thanks for the in-depth video!!! i bought the 990b during black friday and mostly wanted validation for my purchase lol. Awesome video! I watched your full review of the 990b before my purchase so i knew what i was getting into. thanks again and keep rocking it!!!
Once sonos releases surrounds with upfiring it’ll be a game changer in the competition. I wouldn’t even see a reason to even buy a different brand - sonos has no issues and if they do they’re fixed in a week or two. Its the best overall company for longevity, stability, and consistency.
I also find it funny the arc (nearly 3yrs old) with the full system still competes with current bar systems especially samsung.
The system itself still sounds stellar.
I ended up with the Q990B from the same choices but would have absolutely gotten the HTA9 if it didn't cost so much more than then Samsung. Objectively fair review.
You are a madman! A one hour video on soundbar reviews on youtube is a first for me, but higly appreciated since you can get all the information on the top competitors in just one vid. Congratulations and I hope your channel grows! I just wish there were reviewers such as you in Europe as well, since for us the price/availability is not the same as in the States. For example, I got a Q950A for 600$ when the Arc + Sub was close to 1500$. So it was a no brainer. But If the prices were closer to each other, I would have preferred the Arc. Q990B is still too expensive right now to consider an upgrade and I feel that only the Sub would be improved (and the damn display that's not on top anymore). Looking forward to the next big thing in home entertainment space!
Thanks for going into great deal with the comparisons. I love the movie theater sounds, so I know what I'm choosing.. Thanks, your work is appreciated ❤
The is exactly how I felt…I have kids can’t go all out I just want a great sound system was leaning towards the arc thanks for the help
What a wonderful video, the amount of work invested is clearly shown in the quality of it. Very useful and educational. Love the subtle jokes.
It was a lot of work and I’m greatful you too the time to watch and comment 🙏
Must say most comprehensive reviews of soundbars out there. Measurements would up the game. Especially on the subs (frequency response and SPL without compression). Very good job.
I’ve been considering incorporating those kinds of measurements … this kind of feedback helps move the needle - appreciate the comment
I think what's kinda missing is price range in the comparison. Look at the launch price, average price and prices on good deals. Not just US, but also European prices since they do seem to vary wildly quite a bit. Price is the one thing that really puts things into perspective. I mean, with a $1900 Q990B and a $1000 Cinema 1200, a Cinema 1200 seems like it may be worth consider. But what if you live in Europe and can get a Q990B for less than the Cinema 1200, for example?
Of course prices do change constantly, but I think giving a range would put things in some good perspective. It may persuade someone to spend a tiny bit more for a top-end bar on a good deal than one that's pretty much entry level for the high-end if the person sees their prices aren't that far apart, when they would otherwise go for the latter because reviews say it's a lot cheaper than the competition... which isn't really true when taking deals into account.
I have the Samsung Q990B and I love it, it is definitely impressive and sounds Superb whether I watch movies, regular tv or listen to music it was definitely worth the $1800 I paid when I bought it mid 2022
sir do u have drop out issues?.. what is ur bar manufacturing date in box .
@@gunatym6036 mine went out and will not go into pairing mode. What does the date of manufacture mean?
Does your sub feel overwhelmed during Atmos movies or shows?
Crazily extensive comparison! 👏🏻
Your script is really good. Great job! Could you eventually create a series of soundbar systems you recommend for small living rooms of 150 sq ft for people who live in condominium units? Thank you!
I bought a Q990B last year. I don’t need to watch these videos anymore…why am I still watching?
(Keep up the good work and keep doing it like this 👍🏻)
How is subwoofer bass effect in home? Compared to Jbl 9.1 i see bass is very less in q990b? Pls tell your view on q990b
You'll have to keep watching until the new Nakamichi Dragon soundbar system gets widely reviewed. If you desire to have the very best, this system is it. Nothing may ever touch it.
@@jjaisudhan The bass of the Q990b is much better than the previous models according to all reviewers. It feels better than my KEF speakers with a REL Q200E sub. (Mostly Balance). I love this setup.
@@marvinmurakami8828 I couldn’t find a shop in the Netherlands to try the Dragon soundbar.
I also bought a Samsung TV so the Q990b was only €800 additional (last year). I’m never going to spend a lot of money on my equipment again. Everything gets outdated anyway. This way I could buy a new system earlier anyway. (From a price perspective)
Rarely comment on videos but, this was a great video. Detailed and entertaining. Thanks
I have the Samsung Q990B.
I am very happy with it!
Especially paired with a Samsung TV.
I felt bass is Comparitively less in q990b . How do you think?
@@jjaisudhan bass in movies is impressive but when I play songs bass seems to be bit weak. I enjoy watching movies with this speakers than listening to songs.
@Jai Sudhan yes, the Bass is weak but that is ok for Apartment livers like me.
I have a concrete floor that reflects bass nicely.
If I lived in a house where I wouldn't disturb neighbors like i use to I would have a 15" Subwoofer.
Just depends on your setting you have it set up in.
For an apartment it's more that enough, I have to turn it down most of the time.
@sunil karthik 🎯 🎯 🎯 🎯 🎯 🎯
@@TOdoubledizzle24 Thank you!! By the way today i finally purchased Q990b rather than waiting for Jbl1000.
Today i will be getting delivered.
What settings you suggest to get good bass from q990b?
Really appreciate the thoroughness in this video comparing all of these different systems! Incredibly helpful and definitely something I’ll come back to when it’s time to make a purchasing decision. Hope you’re right and this is your biggest video yet, you deserve it.
I have bought the Sony HT-A9 over the Samsung Q990B, only because of the big soundbar in front of the television (dont have the space). But i have to tell you the A9 is amazing, no drop outs whatsoever, maby its something in your room that is conflicting? Great video.
Awesome video as usual! But my man, you need to get a hold of the Sony A7000 with the SA-RS5 speakers and tell us what you think about that!
You might have inspired me …
I have that setup and after some tweaking it sounds amazing !
I'm biased of course (because I have an A7000 with the RS5 speakers and the big sub) but imo this set up gives you much if not everything you want from the A9s but eliminates any lack of center channel concerns. Its the best way to go if you want to keep things simple and keep one's SO off one's back. Not cheap though granted.
@@wineattorneys I should add I also have a Sony OLED as a center speaker so that definitely adds to the immersion
I can’t believe that you made this long video and I watched the entire thing
Yeah it’s somewhat improbable that both would occur. Your secret is safe with me
This is the most fantastic detailed review on soundbars..give that man a cigar 👏..iv got the q990b what a beast off a soundbar 😃
How is bass effect in home? Compared to Jbl 9.1 i see bass is very less in q990b? Pls tell your view on q990b
@@jjaisudhan i dont have jbl but what i can say, q990b bass is a beast. Setting max +6 for bass & everything like a cinema experience even the volume set at 15. My current setup only limit at dd+ because dont have shield tv pro for dolby atmos + dts ma. And i cant do more then 25 volume ( maintain at 0 bass for peace of mind) or my neighbour will knocking the door. My living room is 20 ft x 18 ft x 10 ft height & my living room placement is go through to the kitchen but the sound produced from the soundbar + rear speaker (mounted to the wall) still very good
Yesterday i bought Q990b and i was impressed while testing at my home! Bass seems enough and imprssive too!!
@@jjaisudhan good decision! Just auto eq after setting up the rear speaker . Best rear speaker placement for me is around head lvl when u sitting at the sofa. But wife factor make me mount it slightly higher (5-10cm above head lvl) but still doable bcause my speaker mount can be tilt 180 dgree. For me best setting for movie is surround. Music either adaptive or standard depend on yyour taste. And for rear speaker, u can adjust rear channel volume in smartthngs apps. I set max (+6) for rear speaker bcoz my sofa and the speaker is about 3-4ft. If set at 0 (default), the sound is too soft.
@@jjaisudhan any dropout issues of rear speakers sir.. and wht is ur soundbar manufacturing date in box
I have the samsung one, and man was I blown away. I previously had a klipsch system with denon av receiver, but i think the Samsung sound bar is actually better. Insane I know.
Yeah it’s really impressive … I sometimes thinks it’s nuts that that kind of sound is in my house and can come from just a few pieces of kit.
@@neverenoughtech Also the fact it is wireless makes it all that better. Before I had wires everywhere. U get great sound with better user experience.
Extremely well done review.You answered many of my questions, and showcased what is important to me as a listener to help narrow my search.
I will probably get HTA9 in future to pair it with my A-95k TV . I think center channel should not be problem if you pair it with sony any flagship TV which can be used as center channel.
Don’t know how you sensed, but I was wanting you to make this comparison since I started shopping around Black Friday! Thanks for the thorough video! I settled on Sonos, but wasn’t really wowed by it. I am thinking of replacing it with 990B whenever it comes in stock 🤔
Well done! 100% agree that there is some blend that would work best.
Sonos: modularity, software and long term support
HTA9: wireless multidirectional powered speakers with DSP smarts
This deserves way more likes 👍🏼 amazing job.
You do the best tech review videos. Great detailed information, genuinely funny humour. Don't ever stop.
You're absolutely right. Thank you for this vid and great logical ranking
forwarded to my wife
I have the HT-A9 hooked up to a Sony 83A90J TV. I am using the TV speakers as the centre channel. It sounds fantastic. I suspect Sony deliberately tuned the HT-A9 to match the speakers in their TV’s that have Acoustic Surface Audio (the screen is the speaker(s)). I agree with you that it doesn’t sound great using TV speakers as the centre with most TV’s. Having said that , the HT-A9’s ability to create a phantom centre is remarkable. BTW your reviews are absolutely the best. Honest, complete with no fanboy BS. Thanks so much for making them !
Bought the same tv, ht-a9, and sw5 sub. Turning on auto volume in a9 settings really boosted the centre sound for me. Had no dropouts on the speakers.
Best tech video I've ever watched. Well done.
I was shooting for longest … but I’ll settle for best. Thanks!
I have been a Sonos user for probably 8 years. It started at first with a playbar in the living room. Then we added a gen 1 sub, then a playbar for the bedroom, and gen2 play 1s for surrounds. The one thing I have really liked is we have been able to add over time and everything has been easy to add and set up. I recently added an Arc and Sub mini to the bedroom, replacing a playbar. I am very happy with it. I have been able to expand and improve the Sonos eco system as time and budget allows.
For a long time I was disappointed with the lack of DTS support, but in the last 3 years, I have realized that we typically only stream movie and shows to the Sonos systems and most don’t use DTS. Discs with DTS HD/X are watched where we have a HT speaker set up.
Finally, I think Trueplay is an issue for Android because of the variability in hardware across the platforms/ manufacturers. With iOS, Sonos can calibrate with known mics in iPhones. It does sometimes take a little while to work with some new iPhones as they are released so I suspect they have to update when the mic is changed with the new model. This has been an issue for quite a while, and you would think Sonos would find a way to address it…. Maybe find a way to support a few of the most popular Android devices? Anyways great comparison.
This was great. Watched it in full. Thank you for the deep analysis
I don’t have a badge to give but you deserve one 🏆
I LOVE this concept!!!!! It’s exactly what I was thinking about regarding wisa or some way of connecting all 5-7-9.X system without having to invest on all of the wires, a/v receiver, etc! Essentially a soundbar like setup, but able to just purchase and install wireless and amplified speakers as you can. Whether it be thru wireless adaptors or built in wireless speaker like how they do it with wireless subs.
For example, you could run the Klipsch powered tower speakers up front, some kind of powered or amplified center speaker tied in with tv speakers (q-symphony), powered rear and sides like the klipsch R-41/51pm or 5,7,9’s. Then of course up to 4 subs as can be afforded :) that leaves the atmos overhead, I think this would be the biggest benefit of all in that you won’t have to run any wires or anything except power of course. And I feel like the overhead speakers could be anything even if it needs the wireless adaptor.
As a renter, we can’t make major mods like cutting holes in the ceiling etc. I was trying to build a system like this with WISA or something like the Platin system. But from what I know, all truly wireless speaker surround sound systems max out at THX specs.
I believe I saw some new JBL powered surround speakers. Not sure. I’m trying to be as specific as possible, but I think this new Dolby wifi 2.4g/5ghz connection could actually work out well.
Ps. Since you have a dragon, how does the dragon compare to the other high end systems out there? Like the Platin systems (Monaco), the Enclave system, and that new JBL crazy expensive setup that uses the passive soundbar setup, (can’t find the article now) but klipsch, Elac, Martin also make similar passive soundbars. *would prob need to have a good receiver to make all that work. But I’m hoping that this Dolby atmos wireless tech would replace the need for a dedicated DSP.
Any thoughts?? 🎉
Pps. Dunno if it’s just me, but your vids seem to have gotten wayyyy more detailed and “on point” since the move!!!! 😊
Nice review can’t wait to see where the JBL Bar 1000 stands when it drops!
Sony HTA9 is pure class, loved listening to music and watching movies. will recommend as well. Do have a review on Philips B97 i have purchased and still ready to be unpacked. great reviews of that system as well from other viewers from mainly Europe. very underrated soundbar though
I’ve tried to get my hands on the B97 … doesn’t seem to want to make its make it state side … not sure why Philips doesn’t aim for a bigger NA presence
Excellent top notch review in which I learnt a few new tasty bits n bobs to consider (!) >> For me the Samsung Q990B just edges the Sony HTA9 >> however, the imaginary future iterations would make for the perfect investment, considering these sound solutions cost more than the TV's they are enhancing... mint review cheers 👌💯👀🎯😎🌟
I went all in on the Sonos Arc System. 2 Fives, dual subs. Sounds insane. I wish I could add the in-ceiling speakers that they sell to get full overhead sound.
Cha-ching, I'm sure.
Or even if they could process the signal and turn the Ones into height channels front and back
It would be cool to see your sonos set up and how it sounds here, man. That's like 35 hundred bucks or more all in.
Not knocking you but for that money you could have so much more…
Nice job. That took a lot of work on your part. I have the ARC and A-9, as well as a regular system. I'm growing tired of all the cables and placement issues with my dedicated speakers and was considering simplifying my life. I've heard a couple reviews now not loving the A-9 for music. What's interesting to me, is I actually liked it for the rock I have played through it so far. I put on the Back in Black CD last night, completely expecting to be let down, but I wasn't. It just sounded like old school full range speakers to me, and I evaluate a system by whether I forget to critique it and just listen, which is exactly what happened. No dropouts so far but would love more impactful, tighter bass. The ARC sounds more refined with batter bass, but it does sound a little muffled to me. Still want to try the Samsung. Thanks for your review and hard work.
I’ll have to try Back in Black - it was really 90s alt rock that didn’t work for me. But I should keep challenging my theories
@@neverenoughtech I'm afraid it's still going back though. The system is good for what it is, and if you get an open box at Best Buy or wherever, it's not a bad deal, but it's still missing a little weight for me. Thanks again.
Great comparison. When the Klipsch was first announced full DTS support was promised. I was so triggered by Klipsch taking it away for their FLAGSHIP soundbar I won’t ever consider a Klipsch product. I have too many 1080p Blu-ray Discs with DTS so support is mandatory. The Arc was out too, even though it now sort of supports DTS, what’s the point? The TV likely won’t pass it. I ended up with the Sony. I do have an occasional dropout, maybe 2-3 in a weekend. I don’t know if it’s a wireless or an eARC issue. But I’m delighted with the sound. One of my best sounding discs is Master and Commander in good old DTS, it blows away any Atmos stream I’ve yet heard and is better than many Atmos 4K Blu-ray’s. I wish I could crank up the volume on the upfiring drivers though as overhead effects can be subtle, but that’s not a reflection on the system. The Atmos demo disc will show you what this Sony system is capable of, when sound engineers turn Atmos loose!!!
I have had an HT-A9 for just under two weeks. The problem I have with the system is by default it wants to use the 360 Mapping technology to upscale all content including 2.0 and 5.1 content. Coming from a 5.1 system, I noticed this immediately. Audio that is supposed to be coming from specifically the front left speaker is also at a lower level being heard from the front left height, the front right and right front height and even from the right rear surround. I assume this is to provide the immersive effect for 5.1 audio. Personally I do not like it. With that said, the system has a setting where you can turn off all the 360 Mapping. After doing so, 2.0 and 5.1 content plays from the speakers they were designed to play from while Atmos content is mapped to all 8 speakers (front left, front left height, front right, front right height, rear left, rear right height, rear right, rear right height). The problem is, the system has a software bug when running in that setting where Atmos content that should be mapped to the rear height speakers is simply discarded. They the audio isn't mapped to other speakers. It's just dropped. So, you miss content. Because of this, I have to switch in and out of 360 Mapping mode depending on whether I'm playing 2.0, 5.1 or Atmos content until the bug is fixed (if it ever is). Atmos content plays pretty well under the 360 Mapping as is the nature of Atmos. Its just annoying to have to keep switching sound effect mode.
I hope you find the money to buy nakamichi dragon and compare it with 990b.
👀💱 I’ll probably look under enough couch cushions
@@neverenoughtech why not compare it to the 9.2.4 Earc with 1300 Watts?
I paid $1k for Nakamichi back in 2020. Vowed never to go that high again. Almost slipped up & got a Sonos system but seen that $3k price tag. I went full Home Theater. Soundbar prices have gotten too out of control
I had the full ARC system with 2 subs but sold that for the q990b which sounds way better than the arc and supports a lot mode codecs than the ARC
I bought both and tested them side by side. I thought the Samsung was more immersive but the Sonos produced higher quality sounds
Nonsense hahahahahaa!
The Sonos system is unreal, the Samsung doesn't sound 'way better'......
best reviewer online .
Thanks!
Again superb work… Love your work!
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Thanks for this review ! Was waiting for someone to do this ! Merry Christmas and Happy New year ! 😁
Excellent comparison...Thanks
Thanks for the info! I just purchased the samsung today for $800 which i thought was a great price. Really hope theres no connectivity issues that i have read about but we shall see.
Hard to tell. My unit worked fine in that regard. $800 is a killer price - hope it works out
How did you get it for $800? Wife and I are moving to on base housing and would love a little oomph for movie time!
Keep up the stellar reviews!!
Great comparison, very informative, no useless talking. That's what we want! Now waiting for B97, seems interesting especially in pure sound quality category. It will be nice to compare best music playing soundbar with good quality stereo set - will it be such big gap between them as we should expect or...maybe not?
I want to do that video but I think maybe just you would watch … could be wrong … I think the arc v SVS prime wireless pro would be an interesting comparison … about the same price
I don’t think I can get the b97 in the states. Give me a link if I’m wrong
So, at the end, the Q990B is the best sounding. I can’t wait to get my Q990C.
Awesome content 👏. I wanted to try Sony A9 but it's way too expensive. You could find Samsung q990b around $1000 usd now a days (I did) so it's a great value. It lacks Chromcast in USA, so one may buy a $19 Google Chromcast just for the soundbar.
Where?
@@UA-camuser1aa Check Samsung Online store with education/government discounts.
@@UA-camuser1aa eBay. New for $1099 from buydig. Got one too.
@@xjumpmaster82 I got Sony and sub
Just picked up the 990c hope its pretty good
The comedy is under rated on this channel.
Thing which imho is the top pick by miles is the q990b no one can match it for price. It's less then half the price of the Sonos which is not even close to twice as good.
Picked mine up for 850£ around 1000$, hard to pick anything else for anywhere near that price
@@kazino21 I got mine for $1500 aud about the same as yours. The Sonos setup is over 3k with sub and rears. If I want something in another room I'll just buy another one.
Even if they were the same price and using just for cinema, the rears of the Samsung add so much to the experience, I would still choose it
Please compare it to Ambeo Max and Ambeo Plus w/ sub
I don't listen to music in my basement home theater setup. Is the 990B going to be that much more impressive for movies and atmos effects than the Arc setup?
If you are wanting to watch mostly cinematic movies and you are not entrenched in the Sonos ecosystem - I think the Q990B is a solid choice. It is a more impressive sounding system
I had the full Sonos system paired to an older tv (no eARC) for a month and decided to return sub gen 3 and one SL's and only keep the arc for a year. During the sale last month I got a pair of One SL's again but kept in bedroom to use for music and returned the Arc and replaced with Samsung Q990B. Apple TV 4K and XBOX S.X connected to Q990B gets the best sound from streaming services or media and Samsungs 4K 60Hz HDMI input limitation doesn't matter since current TV also has that limitation. Future TV with eARC and 4K 120Hz will get best video signal connected directly to these two devices and output sound to Q990B and I'll be set for many years to come.
very interesting..although iam stuck in one direction...counted up my collection......11 Sonos units keeps me faithful 😅
Excellent video. I'm curious...why not include the Nakamichi Dragon? Many consider it the best?
That is a late 22 video. So it had not yet been announced. This is the video you are looking for Nakamichi Dragon vs Sonos & Era 300 & Sub vs Samsung Q990C vs Sony HTA9 w/ SW5
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Thank you. I watched it. How would you compare the Dragon to the Klipsch Rp8000f? Its comparable in price and seems like a lot more sound. Thanks!@@neverenoughtech
Be interesting to see this comparison now that the Q990C is out and Sonos has the ERA300 option for the proper surround sound
Maybe keep a lookout 👀
I'm thinking about buying a soundbar. It must be all in one, without a sub.
- Philips Fidelio TAFB1 (Atmos, DTS:X, Imax)
- BOSE Smart Ultra (Atmos only)
- Sonos Arc (Atmos, without DTS:X)
- Sony HT-A7000 (Atmos and DTS:X)
I had TAFB1 and I had a good opinion about it, but it broke down. Should I choose another model now? I would like the best Atmos/Surround effects (from VOD, I don't have Blue-Ray) and some good music. I also have an Xbox console.
According to Rtings, Sonos is probably the best (but it suits me the least - no BT, no DTS:X - I think it's important, additional purchase of a strip for mounting on the wall), then Bose and then Sony, but they haven't tested Fidelio. But maybe your opinion is different 😊
What a fricken awesome video. Dude you did great. Good work.
Appreciated!
It's nice to see that since I purchased a Sonos package based on your prior video recommendation that it is still top dog. 😎
With A90J as center channel no problems with center channel on HTA9. After few patches drop out problems arent bothering me anymore.
In India u can buy samsung Q990D in sale under 800$ usd is it worth buying here or anything better we can think of??
Great comparison, interested in getting your take on the ambeo max with sub.
I think within the similar price point Bose could have been added for a complete comparison of the similar price bracket.
Bose?
Omg I am only at the beginning of the video. But really loving how structured your content is !
Can’t you control the A9 through the interface with your tv remote? I think that’s what Sony is counting on.
With the A9, I see 4.1.4 and 7.1.4 advertised at different prices… kinda assumed the 7.1.4 has more speakers in each thingy
You can control the A9 volume with the TV remote - not the other functions unless paired with a Sony tv. The 7.1.4 is the “promotional” channel count with spatial sound mapping (12 phantom speakers)- while the A9 is priced differently based on time and seller it’s a 4.1.4 system
No love for the nakamichi?
Thank you for the review !
thank you for your effort on this comparison i followed up to the end but you never talked about the sub how deep are they and which subwoofers delivers more deep base .
1200
Could you tell us more about the "Rear-Mode" of the Samsung Q990B? Is it much worse than placing the rears in the back?
Great video. Excellent analysis. Really appreciate the insight.
Id go with the Samsung any day of the week
Even on Sonos Sunday … ?😬
Just fyi you can take a larger capacity USB stick and make an 8gb partition and just leave the rest of the capacity unallocated. You may need to delete the existing full capacity partition and then create the new 8GB one.
But to be honest if their system is going to ask for a USB stick in the year of our lord 2023 AND require only 8gb of capacity to work then they should have a software utility as a part of their firmware update file that automatically creates this partition when you run it so that it doesn't matter what size USB you use. I guess that could be a problem though for people that don't have the know how and are left with only 8gb of their USB stick lmao
Dude you're hilarious. I never comment on videos but this is excellent.
Fantastic comparison videos. Where do you think the Bose 900 fit in this comparison?
Below the full arc system … though I think the Bose probably beats Sonos bar on bar
Excellent and informative video
I got the Arc because I had already adopted the Sonos ecosystem. Pairing it with 5’s in the back makes a big difference. Good solid set up, not something that blows me away but pleasant and occasionally moving.
Seems fair to me
J’avais sonos arc one 2 sub pendant 2 ans j ai tout revendu c est vrai que le son est très bon les Bass sont magnifiques les voix pour les dialogues sont clair pour écouter la musique par rapport a d’autre barre de son il est bien mieux que la plupart mais sa s’arrête la mais pour le cinema aucun effet Atmos, aucun effet de transition avant a arrière déçus par l’expérience cinema j’ai pris le Sony ht a9 avec sub sw5 TV sony A95K sa n a rien avoir l’expérience est vraiment vraiment au dessus les même film que je mettais avec le sonos sa a rien avoir je conseille vraiment le ht a9 pour les film il surpasse pour moi sonos et meme le Samsung q990B que j ai essayer qui est tres bien aussi mais pour seulement les film HT A9 avec bien sur le sub et si possible TV récente le TOP
Planning to replace my Nakamichi 7.2.4 with the Sonos Arc with a second sub and Fives as rears. The Arc has been out for awhile and I don't know if a newer version is in the works or soon to be released like they did with 1st and 2nd Gen Beam system?
I have a Nakamichi 7.2.4 with my LG OLED 77" C1. Just haven't been able to dial in the sound and I have a "muffled" sound that cuts in/out randomly. My office has a Sonos Beam Gen 1, Gen 3 Sub, and 2 IKEA Symfonisk bookshelf speakers as surrounds with a LG OLED 55" C1. The Sonos has a richer, fuller, crisper, clearer, and can deliver more bass compared to the Nakamichi. Thinking about upgrading to the Sonos Arc system; but, add a second sub and Sonos Fives as rear surrounds.
Hope you haven't upgraded yet. If you don't mind spending 3,500 dollars, the new Nakamichi Dragon system will destroy any other soundbar system.
@@marvinmurakami8828 I just purchased the Arc, two Gen 3 Subs, and two Fives as rear surrounds. My Nakamichi 7.2.4 sporadic "muffling" sound was getting worse and we had to turn the soundbar off just to watch TV. The Nakamichi Dragon is probably the new standard for soundbars. Being able to add more the already flexible Sonos ecosystem is very easy and future proofs me for more speakers or component upgrades.
@@mrgold3591 I have no doubt your system sounds awesome.
Happy listening!
Из всего представленного я бы купил Klipsh 1200.👍👍👍👍
Подскажите пожалуйста, саундбар Samsung q995d, будет ли он работать с телевизором LG G4
Awesome detailed review 👍🏾
Great job!!!!
Great video, lots of details, thanks for making it!
You confirmed that for me it would seem as the next step could very well be the Samsung 990, coming from an old Sonos Playbar and not having the space for separate speakers.
Now one last thing I can't find anywhere, maybe you can help: does the Samsung 990 appear as a speaker to Spotify, or does it need the phone to stream over bluetooth?
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what's your Equalizer setting and channel levels fr q990b? what 4K player are you using? is Xbox one X okay? can you recommend calibration discs to test tone all 11.1.4 channels (or 22 channels, however many there are total)
Ive been debating the sonos immersive with era 300s, sony hta-9 and waiting for the nakamichi dragon. My wife liked the lovesac stealthtec but i have to believe all these options will be better..... ?
Nice review keep up the good work
Best movie sound: Q990B
Best for music: Q990B
Worst movie sound: Sonos Arc
3rd out of 4th place for music: Sonos Arc
Very obvious winner overal: Sonos Arc
The Sonos Arc does seem to be the most convenient one, but I can't say I'd call any system the best if it's not the best in what matters the most... which is enhancing the sound experience. Besides that, the Q990B seems to have the best prices by far. The Klipsch Cinema 1200 is the cheapest by far, but it's also the worst by far. Meanwhile Samsung's Q990B is easily gotten for about €1000 or less in Europe (I got mine for for less than €900). Even in the US Samsung's Q990B prices seem to go far lower on deals than the Sonos Arc and Sony HTA9. So in terms of price/performance... I'd also give it to the Q990B.
How is subwoofer bass effect in home? Compared to Jbl 9.1 i see bass is very less in q990b? Pls tell your view on q990b
@@jjaisudhan I think it's pretty good overal, but... it's a bit on the complex side. The bass seems to vary rather wildly depending on the mode you use and the type of content you're playing.
> Using 'surround' mode and 'adaptive' mode for movies and games seems to result in a bit of a low bass. I'd recommend putting it at least to +2 or +3 for a 'pleasant' kind of bass, but if you really want some more oomph you can go up to +5 or +6 (which is max). I still wouldn't call it mindblowingly deep in that mode though, but...
> Using 'standard' mode for movies and games seems add A LOT more bass. In fact, if I use standard mode I often do it to -2 or so because even 0 is often too much for movies in this mode (IMO). I think people who really want bass might be satisfied with +1 or +2. Can't say I've tried +6 in this mode for movies, but I imagine it's just too much for most.
> Using 'surround' or 'adaptive' mode for music, there is a decent amount of bass. Not just spotify or youtube music, also music used in movies. Basically any type of music. Haven't really used standard much for musical content since it defaults to stereo... and I'm actually very fond of how it handles music in adaptive.
I think ultimately it depends on what you want. There's some ways to get a huge amount of bass out of this, but it seems to be restricted to the standard mode for some reason. I have no idea why the amount of bass is different per mode. I think it should be equal in every mode and +6 in 1 mode should be the same as +6 in another. But now we have dumb stuff like 0 in standard mode with 5.1 movies having as much bass as +4 or +5 in adaptive/surround mode, that's just... stupid.
That issue aside, I dunno if the JBL is better for music. I've haven't tried it out myself and anything in terms of reviews and impressions seem to indicate that they're more or less equally good in terms of sound. The JBL 9.1 has more bass, but the Q990B seems to have a cleaner sounding bass. I think the Q990B offers a pretty hefty amount of bass and the maximum is too much for me for bass-heavy music tracks. But for someone who really wants DAT BASS, mayber the JBL 9.1 is the only way to go. I can't even max it out on my own Q990B without bothering the neighbours, so it's not for me.
@@thenonexistinghero Thank you soo much for your clear explanation!! Actually i have tried a demo of Q990b and Jbl9.1 in croma showroom.But in that open large space we dint find the bass coming out from q990b even at level +6 , and it is like we have to search for the bass effect but 9.1 has easily given a deep powerful bass even in that vast area. On disappointed in bass of q990b still i kept on hold to purchase and in confused state bcoz i loved q990b but seems it only missed the bass may be due to open space. i hope it is performing good in closed area like living room or hall as you say and also i will try in different modes while testing it and I will let you know what i am purchasing finally!! Thank you!!😊