Samsung Q990C vs Sonos Arc + 2 Eras 300s + Sub

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  • @chetanpendharkar
    @chetanpendharkar 4 місяці тому +31

    In India you can get Samsung Q990D for Rs. 80000 (952 $) @ 1$= 84 Rs exchange rate. And you can get the SONOS Ultimate Immersive Set (With Arc Bar, 2 Era 300 and gen 3 Subwoofer) for Rs. 303000 (3607$) making the price ratio = 1 : 3.78. SONOS in India doesn't even make sense cost wise... Unless you are swimming in Money, SONOS is a bad deal in India. I will choose Samsung Q990D anyday over Sonos and may even buy an extra Q990D for my Gaming room and Still save a ton.

    • @nandish4545
      @nandish4545 2 місяці тому +2

      I bought a q990d a month back after watching a lot of reviews on UA-cam. The sheer sound quality and surround of the soundbar with the sub and two rear is just mind blowing! I totally agree with you I can’t stress how much of a bang for buck the whole system is.
      I bought it along with a 85’’ Samsung neo qled qn85d. Q symphony is great but i might add I’m not sure if the tv speakers produce enough output to make a difference but it’s just a complete package and sounds great.
      I added an Apple TV 4K to my set up last week and I’ve had a ps5 for quite some time now. All these things included. I’ve used all HDMI 2.1 cables behind my tv unit to make it clean without any wires poking out and mounted my soundbar below the TV. MAN! I’m so proud of my setup and can’t stop bragging about it. My living room is my ADDA now. I’d rather spend time here than anywhere else. Might sound like a couch potato but that I am. Cheers to the q990d 🔥

    • @gavinmendonza
      @gavinmendonza 2 місяці тому +1

      Yep, you're right. Here in India I'm guessing Sonos is fully imported. I watched a ton of reviews on UA-cam on these speakers and everyone is abroad, you can't really get good Indian reviews. The worst part is, you can't manage to get sound tests in a lot of stores either. Back when I bought my QN90A, I really really wanted to get a Sonos but it seemed like I'd be spending more on the sound system than on TV. Obviously samsung store bundles exist and it just makes sense to get both Samsungs here. Additionally, my friend who got a Sonos system from abroad (piece by piece as he travels frequently), had to borrow a friends iphone to set it up because the sound bar doesn't support the room setting up thing on Androids. Right now, in stores as these aren't high demand items, you get great deals on 990As, Bs and even Cs as the D just recently launched, some are unboxed or showroom (demo) models and it just wipes the Sonos in terms of VFM here in India. Basically, if you're in India and watching this, unless you're filthy rich to the point where you want to throw away money, you'd be happy with the Samsung.

    • @nandish4545
      @nandish4545 2 місяці тому

      @@gavinmendonza 💯 🍻

    • @forcedbreathingistyranny696
      @forcedbreathingistyranny696 2 місяці тому

      @@nandish4545 You are literally the "swimming in Money" bloke that the original commenter is referring to.. why don't you get the Sonos for Style points?

    • @nandish4545
      @nandish4545 2 місяці тому

      @@forcedbreathingistyranny696 even if I were “swimming in money” I wouldn’t get the Sonos, I would get the Sony theatre quad and a SW5 sub to go with that. LOL. I don’t know about style points but I would love some brownie points. 😉

  • @victorwakka7979
    @victorwakka7979 Рік тому +6

    Thanks! Firstly, you're damn hilarious, and I love your style and snarky attitude. Secondly, I emailed you once needing advice, and within 6 to 8 hours you got back to me, and that was astonishing! Keep it up. I'll spread the word!

  • @GingaBishounen122
    @GingaBishounen122 Рік тому +121

    I love this channel for its detailed and honest reviews sprinkled with humor. Very underrated, you should have more subscribers with these quality contents. Keep up the good work man and can't wait to see your next soundbar review!

    • @michael-4k4000
      @michael-4k4000 11 місяців тому

      Hell yea! Love you Ginga! What tv and sound system are u rocking? Have LG C2 OLED, Kef speakers, and an Onkyo receiver (RZ50)

  • @maverickism00
    @maverickism00 Рік тому +102

    After watching so many audio tech videos, some of which were underwhelming, it's difficult to believe how a relatively new channel has posted such a comprehensive, and non-tiring, vid on audio tech.
    Extremely detailed, to the point, yet with sprinkles of humor. Keep it up buddy!

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Рік тому +10

      Not really really new but maybe no longer subterranean. Appreciate the comment!

    • @rulzadarsh
      @rulzadarsh Рік тому

      @@neverenoughtechmmkk

    • @michael-4k4000
      @michael-4k4000 11 місяців тому +1

      @@neverenoughtechwe all appreciate what you do Sir!

  • @simontargett786
    @simontargett786 Рік тому +31

    Why you only have 18.2k subs is beyond me, you are truly one of the best explanatorial channels on youtube ... please share eveyone .... just wonderful and awesome editorial and creative editing 🙂

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Рік тому +5

      It’s on the upper end of 18.2k - I appreciate the encouragement

    • @michael-4k4000
      @michael-4k4000 11 місяців тому +1

      Almost 27k subs now. This channel will hit 100k soon, just you wait and see.

    • @bluepoison44
      @bluepoison44 9 місяців тому +1

      Almost 30k now!!

  • @t_stein
    @t_stein Рік тому +28

    I already bought my q990b thanks to your reviews but I continue to watch this channel just for the takes. Making a video comparing these two provides the most value to buyers IMO

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Рік тому

      You pretty much have the C -- appreciate the comment

    • @michael-4k4000
      @michael-4k4000 11 місяців тому

      Consider upgrading to the Q990c for maximum enjoyment 😊

    • @JustAnotherYou2ber
      @JustAnotherYou2ber 8 місяців тому

      @@michael-4k4000 Depends what has changed and if those changes are important enough to pay extra for.

  • @augustogalindo8687
    @augustogalindo8687 Рік тому +43

    Because of the price, I thought the Sonos Arc was the best out there and I was considering getting the 990C to have a decent system that could make me imagine how the Sonos would sound like, now I see the 990C could actually be better in many situations 😅. Thanks for the review, now I am sure of my purchase

    • @michael-4k4000
      @michael-4k4000 11 місяців тому +2

      The Samsung 990c is amazing and engaging and just simply fun.

    • @jonathan-us5jm
      @jonathan-us5jm Місяць тому

      Got the sonos arc ultra for 999 before taxes, was immediately disappointed because it was advertised to the point you're suppose to have a WOW factor when you actually listened to it in person. Then grabbed the Q990c yesterday for 899 brand new. I got it today and immediately decided to return the sonos arc ultra, imagine it soundbar alone being more expensive than the Q990c is crazy!

  • @nedis4
    @nedis4 11 місяців тому +7

    Your video is perfect. Thanks! Earned a sub, even though I came here for one time purchase advice about Q990C

  • @renehouse2015
    @renehouse2015 Рік тому +8

    That was a great throwdown review... thank you. I have the Samsung Q800C soundbar and added the 9200S rear speakers for surround sound so your video was clearly outside my weight class but I very much enjoyed it nonetheless. Very nice work.

    • @ishkapiska4516
      @ishkapiska4516 Рік тому +2

      You should’ve chosen the 9500s they are better for that soundbar

  • @ARKELPZ
    @ARKELPZ Рік тому +5

    I buyed Q990c for 800 dlls days ago and I'm surprised the detail of sound. Thanks for the review. Greatings from Mexico.

  • @AC-hw5ue
    @AC-hw5ue 8 місяців тому +5

    Just bought q990C because of this review. I never watch videos more than 20 minutes but this review made me stay till the end. Entertaining and mind blowing!

  • @tuolumne9
    @tuolumne9 9 місяців тому +7

    Message did reach me in great spirits. Just bought q990d for $1,259.00 from Samsung EDU store . FWIW, the q990c was $700.00 flat. This video convinced me to spend the incremental. Thank you.🎉

  • @adamranes7880
    @adamranes7880 Місяць тому +1

    Best review I’ve found in my research. Your blend of knowledge and humor is perfect!

  • @kalpeshchavan2087
    @kalpeshchavan2087 Рік тому +5

    Well, I've just subscribed your channel because you have great reviewing skills. Keep up the good work.

  • @saurabhsen_nj
    @saurabhsen_nj 5 місяців тому +6

    I own Sonos Arc and very happy with the sound even after paying the high price tag, I returned HT-A7000 as its sound was not as per my likings even though I have a Sony OLED 77".

    • @mrgold3591
      @mrgold3591 4 місяці тому +1

      I started with a Nakamichi 7.2.4 on my LG OLED 77C1 and wasn't happy with the sound. Spent too much time messing the the Nakamichi remote adjusting the sound with stereo, 5.1, and Atmos content. My Beam, Gen 3 sub, and Symfonisk rears sound much better in spare room and needed zero adjustments after Trueplay. Dumped the Nakamichi and added the Arc, dual Gen 3 subs, and Fives and have been extremely happy (purchased the Fives before the Era 300s were announced).

  • @FairplaySid
    @FairplaySid 7 місяців тому +1

    I've only seen one or two videos and I think you're doing really, really good tests. Because a test in combination with a comparison of an equivalent device is at least 50% better than a test with no comparison. Thank you for that. 🤩👍🏼💪🏽

  • @Cool_Rider25
    @Cool_Rider25 10 місяців тому +1

    This should be one of the longest video. But as a person interested in soundbars and tvs, i sticked on to this video the entire time listening to each and every word.
    Man your such a genius and hardworker. Good luck for your futute million audiophile subs .

  • @TheHookUp
    @TheHookUp Рік тому +17

    I bought 300s for my rears based on your last video about them and WOW, the difference between the One SL's and the 300s is night and day. Definitely recommend.

    • @WhiTeyFU
      @WhiTeyFU Рік тому +4

      Ugh, I don't want to hear that. I bought an arc system with sl ones at the beginning of the year.

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Рік тому +2

      😬 oops

    • @sobeautifulsrilanka
      @sobeautifulsrilanka Рік тому +2

      The 300’s are so capable, it’s kind of a waste of their talents using them as only surrounds.

    • @Sweetswede15
      @Sweetswede15 Рік тому

      @@sobeautifulsrilankatotal waste but they are awesome rears

  • @teonigil
    @teonigil 9 місяців тому

    Thanks! Best Tech channel.

  • @sukhdeepsingh365
    @sukhdeepsingh365 Рік тому +2

    I got 990 c after watching your video and this is best soundbar system i can get with this price. Yes you was right about plugging stream devices to hdmi 1 or 2 to get dolby atmos if your tv does not have eArc. I am using google chromocast with my old tv but it did not give me performance from soundbar because chromocast was connected to TV. After watching your video and searching on internet, i have connected chromocast to soundbar and it changed the game.

  • @zoup
    @zoup Рік тому +4

    Thank god I didn't wait!! you are great brother!

  • @mongusavina5651
    @mongusavina5651 Рік тому +9

    I added my Sonos ones with the Arc side to side, with my 300 s and sub makes my forward sound 10 times better, I know it’s not the sound bar but it’s an improvement, great video 👍

    • @CarrascoFarms
      @CarrascoFarms Рік тому +1

      Next time you can, get a second sub for your setup and put that in the back of the room. It will shake the roof.

    • @prtbone78
      @prtbone78 2 місяці тому

      So with the ones in front paired and grouped as stereo fronts your saying ? It sounds better? I was thinking of buying the 990c since can get it for pretty cheap like 600 cheap but then wanted to get me 2 era 300s to see and add my era 100s as front stereo pairs .. then eventually get another 2 era 300s and replace the era 100s with them 2 era 300s

  • @howardblidgen7067
    @howardblidgen7067 Рік тому +6

    I always enjoy your reviews. Very unique and spot on!!

  • @davidthanos
    @davidthanos Рік тому +4

    I gave up on all the brands siundbars and finally got the arc and sub when they got discounted last year and I'm happy as hell. Best sounding sub. Now I'll just wait 5 years when they discount the era 300

  • @JuiceForgetting5
    @JuiceForgetting5 11 місяців тому +9

    Thank you for doing quality soundbar reviews. This space on UA-cam needs it!

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  11 місяців тому

      Thanks so much … it means a lot

    • @michael-4k4000
      @michael-4k4000 11 місяців тому

      Yes he does the best reviews, and the man knows his stuff

  • @amanbat1151
    @amanbat1151 11 місяців тому +28

    No DTS-HD & DTS-X is the biggest dealbreaker for me. DTS is a superior format to Dolby, Sonos claims to be a premium brand and then don’t give you the premium sound format. If you care about physical media, you shouldn’t fall for Sonos.

    • @inigogc
      @inigogc 5 місяців тому +4

      I agree that lack of DTS support is important for me, because I use Blu-rays, which tend to have DTS soundtracks.
      However, when I compare between DTS and Dolby tracks, overall I don’t notice much difference. What difference(s) do you notice? The only significant difference I find is that DTS track are noticeably softer than Dolby one, so I just turn up the volume.

    • @amanbat1151
      @amanbat1151 5 місяців тому +4

      @@inigogc Sonos outputs free version of DTS which will sound maybe softer than Dolby TrueHD. But if you do apples to apples comparison, then you truly know how DTS sounds. I find DTS to be more base heavy and more theatrical as compared to Dolby 5.1

    • @inigogc
      @inigogc 5 місяців тому

      @@amanbat1151 I am not referring to Sonos devices. I don’t use their products for the same reason of lacking full DTS support (and a couple others).
      I do not, however, agree that DTS tracks are better than Dolby ones.
      - Lossless DTS and Lossless Dolby SHOULD come out exactly the same, since they are supposed to decompress to exactly the same original audio.
      - Lossy DTS and Lossy Dolby seem roughly the same to me. Sometimes there is strong bass and sometimes there is weak bass. It varies from show to show, with no objective or certain winner to me.
      DTS and Dolby tracks can both have strong or weak bass. The format doesn’t dictate that.
      Some shows in DTS-HD MA have really strong bass (Black Sails, for instance), while some Dolby TrueHD shows have the same too (Game of Thrones, for instance). The stuff that have weak bass in Dolby (Pirates of the Caribbean, for instance), come out that way NOT because the Dolby audio format has weaker bass than DTS. It’s just because of the audio created in audio mixing. Additionally, Avengers Endgame (which IS in DTS-HD MA in the Blu-ray) has weak bass too, just like Pirates of the Caribbean.
      If you also have test files, in both formats, then you realise that there isn’t significant difference in either format. It comes down to the creator of the mix and what they did to it.
      What kind of system do you have to come to this judgement? Not all systems treat DTS and Dolby the same way. Sometimes, different additional processing may be the culprit for differences in output audio, NOT the selected audio track.

  • @jabronitony1245
    @jabronitony1245 Рік тому +7

    lovely. Sonos to me wins for the ecosystem. I love its expandable nature and knowing i can retire pieces to other rooms as they roll out new modular pieces… chefs kiss. I will put my one SLs in two rooms and add 300s

  • @michaelribeiro5777
    @michaelribeiro5777 Рік тому +2

    *Chef's kiss* Your reviews are awesome, love the satire, humour and detailed content. Hope you hit your 20k target!

  • @madebyut
    @madebyut 4 місяці тому +2

    I trust you more than AR.
    AR sounds like a salesman trying to convince you to buy just about everything. Meanwhile you are helping us make an informed decision with your pure, unfiltered reviews. Thanks so much!

  • @LuchoPantoja
    @LuchoPantoja Рік тому +3

    Wait just watched this and found you at 22k subs! Congratz!

  • @gledsonr30
    @gledsonr30 Рік тому +48

    Because of the sound signature , I chose the Sonos Arc . I spent mouths comparing audio quality ( which is more important to me) for me ,Sonos has the best sound among the several other brands.

    • @giancarlogargiulo5875
      @giancarlogargiulo5875 Рік тому +8

      Did you compare the sound vs 990C Samsung?

    • @Cards4Life-
      @Cards4Life- Рік тому +6

      Sorry hat’s Not true . I have put all
      My Sonos away

    • @mikportgal221
      @mikportgal221 Рік тому +5

      I don’t think not even you belive that 😅😂

    • @Cards4Life-
      @Cards4Life- Рік тому

      @@mikportgal221 Sonos Shitty

    • @michael-4k4000
      @michael-4k4000 11 місяців тому +9

      Consider Samsung S990C for an upgrade to your Sonos Arc…. U will be happy!!!!

  • @Beardalorian
    @Beardalorian Рік тому +4

    These have been the battle for me on which first Soundbar to get for my new apartment. I think I'm definitely going with the Q990c. Amazing video BTW.

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Рік тому +1

      They make for an interesting choice for sure. Appreciate the comment!

    • @A4rings110
      @A4rings110 9 місяців тому

      Your neighbors will hate you hahah

  • @grcerosa
    @grcerosa 11 місяців тому +1

    Yep great attention to detail along with humor. Superb job as always.

  • @eclipsexoxoxox
    @eclipsexoxoxox 11 місяців тому +3

    26000 subs January 2024! well done really appreciate your honest and detailed reviews!

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  11 місяців тому

      It was a welcomed overshoot. Appreciate the support!

    • @michael-4k4000
      @michael-4k4000 11 місяців тому

      Yes congratulations sir! Love your channel! Most in-depth reviews around. AR reviews ate great, but lack a lot of details which you provide in spades!

  • @David123Martin
    @David123Martin Рік тому +8

    This video was amazing, my lord you are going places haha your humor is top tier 😂

    • @o.c.g.m9426
      @o.c.g.m9426 Рік тому +1

      When he said a guy went to his face and shot his gun...I was on the couch and shouted AYO SON CHILL PAUSE THAT 😂😂😂

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Рік тому +3

      Not sure where I’m going but to take out the garbage and pull some weeds. Appreciate the sentiment!

  • @jimburdeshaw5200
    @jimburdeshaw5200 Рік тому +3

    First time seeing one of your videos. FANTASTIC! HILARIOUS! INFORMATIVE! Keep up the fantastic work and stay entertaining! SUBSCRIBED..... DONE! 👍👍

  • @Bacci_music
    @Bacci_music Рік тому +2

    Wowww, fantastic review. U were cirurgic precise in every detail. Congratulations!

  • @ms3862
    @ms3862 Рік тому +8

    They don't need a new bar, they just need to let us use the era300 as front channels. So instead of the Arc with two era 300s we use four era300s and the sub

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Рік тому +1

      Well you will need to plug into something to feed the 300s so that might as well be a center channel as opposed to the A9 box

    • @ms3862
      @ms3862 Рік тому +1

      @@neverenoughtech Perhaps a very small bar then just to act as the center channel and datafeed

  • @serjfernezian957
    @serjfernezian957 Рік тому +6

    Awesome video!! Now we need to see the new nakamichi dragon 😊

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Рік тому +4

      I did my part - paying them a bunch of money - they need to send it to me

  • @sanjayrajsoni
    @sanjayrajsoni 9 місяців тому +2

    You don’t need an editor - you are one the best reviewer on YT. After your channel I can’t go back to AR

  • @victorwakka7979
    @victorwakka7979 Рік тому +20

    Now that being said, I bought the Samsung C for just less than $900 on eBay and it sounds phenomenal! I could never have afforded the Sonos so it was never in my bracket to begin with. And I used your review and others of the Sam B to make the choice about the C. Especially since I was able to get it for so inexpensive. It has a couple of cosmetic issues but I didn't buy it cuz of the way it looks. I know that that's one of your categories but it matters little to me! And as far as the fight versus Sonos and it's whole house sound with the Sam which I use the key between 15 and 25 I know can crank it up to 40 and listen to it anywhere I want to! And if I really want to scare the neighbors I can crank it up to 80 or 90!

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Рік тому +10

      I sense 80-90 is a good way to get the police’s attention 😬

    • @thenonexistinghero
      @thenonexistinghero Рік тому +4

      Samsungs Q990C and Q990B soundbars are the best out there in terms of price/performance if you get them on a deal. You can get them for less than half of the price of anything that even comes close to competing. And well, if you really want the best of the best and are willing to spend over $2000 on a soundbar... might as well go the extra mile and get a Nakamichi Dragon for nearly $4000.

    • @hackztor
      @hackztor Рік тому +1

      Samsung are great if you get them for the discount. Sonos/Dragon are if you want best of the best.

    • @thenonexistinghero
      @thenonexistinghero Рік тому +7

      @@hackztor The Sonos is worse than the Samsung... I've seen and read quite a few comparisons. The result is pretty clear. Some soundbars have a minor advantage above the Samsung in 1 or a few areas, but other than the Nakamichi Dragon no other soundbars are as good as the Q990B and C in terms of overal experience. And for movies it's not even a contest, the Q990B and C beat out every other soundbar that isn't the Dragon.

    • @啦啦翔
      @啦啦翔 Рік тому

      @@thenonexistinghero How about Sony a7000? I want to know your experience of using it.

  • @7SlicesOfPizza
    @7SlicesOfPizza 6 місяців тому +1

    my god this guy deserves way more subscribers!
    please keep the grind going you will get big for sure!

  • @lukeymacca55
    @lukeymacca55 Рік тому +33

    Great video. I bought both the arc and Q990C and preferred the consistency on the arc for things like regular satellite tv and stereo content. The Q990C was great with Atmos, but as a house we all preferred the Arc

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Рік тому +4

      Arc stands for family - how it goes at our house

    • @marksullivan3424
      @marksullivan3424 Рік тому +5

      This was my experience as well. I initially bought the Sonos setup, then returned it for the Samsung. The Samsung blows the Sonos out of the water with Atmos movies, especially blue ray disc. And dialogue is much more clear.
      But everything else, regular tv watching, music etc, the Sonos is much better. The Sonos to me has more of a HI-Fi sound from the speakers.
      But in my case this is a basement setup on an 85” and we do watch movies with the volume cranked up

  • @karthikr177
    @karthikr177 Рік тому +2

    Finally a q990c indepth analysis and camparison. Thank you .

  • @colingabriel2422
    @colingabriel2422 9 місяців тому +1

    I laughed out loud when you got to the part where you said you had two Arcs because I also have two (one in bedroom and one in living room). I’m researching a replacement for a 10 year old AVR system in my basement and if pressed to pull the trigger today id go with the Sony A9s. Based on reviews from you, Andrew Robinson, Digital Trends, and many others they will provide the immersive souls I’m craving. But like you, I’m really hoping Sonos will legalize the system you proposed with a bunch of Era 300s so I’m waiting to see what they do in 2024. Thanks for the great info!

  • @albertancustomer4232
    @albertancustomer4232 Рік тому +2

    I appreciate your dark humour. Good stuff. Keep it up!

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Рік тому

      I thought I was just grumpy … hadn’t realized it went dark …. Either case … will do 😎😀🌧️

  • @brunolavez
    @brunolavez Рік тому

    Wow! Impressive review, I feel you exhausted everything I needed to know, and despite being a long video, I don't need to jump into other videos.

  • @Danwork57
    @Danwork57 Рік тому +9

    First of all thank a lot for the great work done in preparing these detailed reviews and comparisons. I wonder if in relation to the good analysis done on the Sony HT-A9 system, you will ever find the time to compare it with the Sonos kit that includes surround with the Era 300. in any case thanks thanks again.

  • @razmspiele25
    @razmspiele25 Рік тому +3

    This video review really makes me want to wait until next year to buy anything. The small sub on the Samsung and the weaker Arc sound bar makes it seem like there's a compromise when choosing either one of these sets. For $1500 or more, I'm not sure I'm willing to do that.

  • @ShanthanReddyMutyala
    @ShanthanReddyMutyala 11 місяців тому +1

    First time watching your video.. Very informative and prolly one of the best comparison videos and loved the hint of sarcasm sprinkled around 😂... 🍻

  • @stma
    @stma Рік тому +1

    Really enjoyed the video. Nerd talk and humor are balanced perfectly, keep up the good work!

  • @sobeautifulsrilanka
    @sobeautifulsrilanka Рік тому +16

    Thanks for having the balls to say that the Samsung bar sounds better than the Sonos bar. Agree with your points about the narrow soundbarlike soundfields of the Samsung. I have mine mounted below my screen and pointed up towards the ceiling instead of towards the audience. Much wider, more expansive, better sound mounted this way IMO that covers my entire 120 inch screen.

    • @emoyet2011
      @emoyet2011 Рік тому

      What r u talking about this guys is an idiot he never says Sonos r good lol r u serious there’s nothing better than the Sonos than especially now with the 300

    • @AbsoluteFidelity
      @AbsoluteFidelity Рік тому +11

      Makes zero sense, with the soundbar pointed up at the ceiling, the upward firing speakers would be pointed at the wrong place. And these speakers are designed to be listened to on axis. I call BS.

  • @brandonharding1199
    @brandonharding1199 Рік тому +8

    I agree the Arc is the weak link in the Sonos. Currently I have the Arc with 300s and 2 Subs (built over time, not all at once). The Arc is still a fantastic bar, but still leaves me wanting more. Hopefully an Arc 2 can improve the front soundstage and I can move my Arc to another room. Good video!

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Рік тому +6

      I’m kind of hoping for not an Arc 2 but something completely different … I don’t think a version update is going to be all that satisfying … appreciate the comment!

    • @Scruffy04
      @Scruffy04 Рік тому +3

      Can you simply use two 300's in the front and two 300's as rears? Or would that not achieve what the Arc is currently providing?

    • @ms3862
      @ms3862 Рік тому +3

      @@Scruffy04Sonos does not allow this. It would be the best solution, if we can now use the soundbar and just use era 300's for the front and side channels

    • @keith692
      @keith692 Рік тому

      For now you can build your system like this, which I'm sure Sonos will release software to coordinate the effect. I have the arc system with 2 subs and 2 era 300. But i also have another paired era 300's in the front. It's paired, and then I grouped together the sonos arc system with the front pairs. The front pairs are just stereo, but they produce height and atmos effects. It widens the sound stage of the arc and pretty much solves every complaint addressed in this video. The bubble that you are engulfed in is pretty insane...@@ms3862

    • @Zuudloarn
      @Zuudloarn Рік тому +1

      Or AMP maybe?

  • @PacificOceanQuest
    @PacificOceanQuest Рік тому +10

    I had the Q930c and I just bought the Q990C and I can say without a doubt the Q990c exceeded my expectations !!!! one heck of a Dolby Atmos experience once its in your home and you here it for yourself . No video on youtube will do it justice

    • @paulsouders3489
      @paulsouders3489 Рік тому

      I thought the difference between the 930 and the 990 was the rear speakers? I was checking out the 930 at bestbuy for black Friday for $989 ?

    • @AlexOnBass
      @AlexOnBass Рік тому +1

      How is the subs? That’s usually the weakest link in a soundbar…..

    • @PacificOceanQuest
      @PacificOceanQuest Рік тому +1

      @@AlexOnBass it’s very punchy put it this way it vibrated stuff off my shelf in my bedroom because of the subwoofer 😂 all the walls were shaking. I think the Q990c sub is 656 watts and the Q930C is 540watts but the Q990C definitely had more punch that you could feel. The sound is excellent enough to go right through you in scare you specially when watching horror movies lol

    • @4dinsdale
      @4dinsdale Рік тому

      Hi, i am considering 930b instead of 990c. Its realy so different? How about sound calibration between them? (Space fit i think). Thank you

    • @prtbone78
      @prtbone78 Рік тому

      ​@PacificOceanQuest the subs are my worries as well but reading your comment I think ill go for it.. went to best buy was unable to hear the 990c was able to hear others but didn't bother. I definitely did try the arc. That gen 3 sub hits .... hoping to get somewhat close to that sonos sub worh the 990c. 🤞

  • @jorgelopez9620
    @jorgelopez9620 Рік тому +3

    thanks brotha, just got the q990c. looking forward to them. happy new year

    • @michael-4k4000
      @michael-4k4000 11 місяців тому

      The b, c, and now D and very similar and they are at a point where in order to make the sound better would need to be larger. Themis is not a Samsung or Sonos issue it’s a physics issue, bigger speakers allow for better sound and better mid levels. That being said the Q990c is more than good enough!

  • @GTW-1807
    @GTW-1807 Рік тому +7

    I currently have the HT-A9 with SW5. Really like this review of these units as I'm kinda looking around for maybe a change. What I don't understand with these companies is why they can't come out with the ultimate solution? That would be a slim center channel unit (2.5 inches max height) that would contain center channel and all the electronics necessary for wireless, processing, etc.. I don't even care if it only has one eARC port. There would then be four speakers that are spread out that contain necessary drivers and upfiring atomos drivers included. Sort of like the imaginary Sonos ARC with four ERA 300s that you rigged. Of course it would be much simpler and cost a hell of lot less! Gerry

    • @tracer073
      @tracer073 2 місяці тому

      How did he rigged the era and get 4 era 300s to play at the same time

  • @TheHavoc09
    @TheHavoc09 10 днів тому

    Great review! I would love a comparison to a normal atmos setup via receiver and dedicated speakers.

  • @ervinstankovic2462
    @ervinstankovic2462 6 місяців тому +1

    I love all of your content thank you!

  • @Mac_Daffy
    @Mac_Daffy Рік тому +1

    congrats on the 20k subs!

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Рік тому

      If you your paste the goal in enough videos … thanks!

  • @kelb2607
    @kelb2607 Рік тому +2

    love my q990 c. the Sound fills my room so well even with my high 13 ft ceiling.

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Рік тому +1

      This is touching on a point I should emphasize more big space is flattering to the good systems. Don’t get too stressed about high ceilings

  • @weiguo9887
    @weiguo9887 Рік тому +3

    Your channel deserves more subs!

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Рік тому

      I appreciate the sentiment … I’m of the mind that you have exactly as many as you deserve (assuming YT is being fair). But maybe I can figure out how to deserve more.

  • @Martin_Level47
    @Martin_Level47 9 місяців тому +1

    Great review - thank you for that 🙂 I get the Sonos system with all its benefits, BUT, and it's a big but, in Denmark the Sonos cost 19.006 dkr and the Samsung 7.750 dkr. That is a massive difference, and I can't see how Sonos can justify that 🤔

  • @jcadvanced
    @jcadvanced 11 місяців тому +1

    Well done review sir. 👍
    Thank you.

  • @jhors7777
    @jhors7777 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for posting this helpful video. I enjoy your videos and humor.

  • @o.c.g.m9426
    @o.c.g.m9426 Рік тому +6

    Absolute great video, but for all this complications, terms & especially ridiculous price($2,500 sonos) a 7.1 home theater will actual 7 speakers seems easier 😂. Your channel is super thorough & very funny thats why i watch.

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Рік тому +3

      I’ll take all the support I can get. Thanks!

    • @michael-4k4000
      @michael-4k4000 11 місяців тому

      I disagree, these sound bars are so simplistic in a great way. Do you like fiddling with your gear or watching movies easily? The SB lets you get great sound, with great bass so easily and that can’t be understated. I own Kef towers and receiver with a 5.1.2 system and it does sound better in the mids but the Q990c is so darn fun to listen to, if I didn’t know it could sound a little better the Q990c would be easily the way to go. For the price is a steal.

  • @cyrilw
    @cyrilw Рік тому +2

    Clever and informative. Thanks for more great content! Now if I can just convince my wife that we need an ATMOS system. I think the Sonos would be an easier sell since we could use the 300s elsewhere in the house when not being used for movie watching.

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Рік тому +1

      I’ve often employed the they’ve (300s) always been there gas lighting method but you might have a more mature relationship

  • @rmclean101
    @rmclean101 8 місяців тому +1

    This was great, thank you!

  • @hblog
    @hblog 6 місяців тому +1

    Bro do all tech review(not only audio)with Energetic voice to impress the UA-cam algorithm 😅
    Your channel is so underrated 😢

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  5 місяців тому

      I’m doing my best to go undetected … the algo will never find me.

  • @ScrewTikTok
    @ScrewTikTok 2 місяці тому +1

    from 20:19 I knew Sonos was going to either beat Samsung or be close (within the 3 points given to Samsung from price).

  • @giacintorenta7579
    @giacintorenta7579 3 місяці тому +2

    I have Sonos Arc + 2 Era 300 and (dual) Sub paired with Samsung S90C and PS5 & Apple TV 4K. Should I ditch Sonos for the Q990C/D and take advantage of Q-Symphony and integration with Samsung S90C? I mainly used it for Atmos movies and 3D audio games. Thank you

    • @jesserik2000
      @jesserik2000 2 місяці тому +1

      Am kinda in the same boat but with a beam 2 and ones as rears. What did you choose?

    • @giacintorenta7579
      @giacintorenta7579 2 місяці тому +1

      @@jesserik2000 in your case moving to Q990D is a no brainer, especially during Blackfriday. Richersounds in the Uk few days ago was selling for 900 pounds less 400 pounds rebate

  • @howardblidgen7067
    @howardblidgen7067 Рік тому

    Thanks!

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Рік тому +1

      Thanks Man! First ever contributor. I’ll always remember this one!

    • @howardblidgen7067
      @howardblidgen7067 Рік тому

      @@neverenoughtech My pleasure bro. 🙏🏾🙏🏾

  • @thaophuongvu
    @thaophuongvu 8 місяців тому +1

    Samsung Q990D & JBL Bar 1300, which one is a better choice in ur opinion?

  • @NiladriSaha
    @NiladriSaha Рік тому

    You made the video a lot of fun to watch and listen! Kudos

  • @michaelw6193
    @michaelw6193 Рік тому +3

    Keep the vids as long as you need to educate and entertain us

  • @brycorrigan
    @brycorrigan Рік тому

    Im sweating right now with anxiety and excitement as i just pulled the trigger from testing a base line LG dolby stereo bar 4.1 and i have been researching a while and this is a purchase i will enjoy for a few years forward . 2 days and my xmas present will finally be here to amplify my 80" tv setup and media wall with multi sync Led ligting kits and fireplace

  • @jamesg8246
    @jamesg8246 Рік тому +3

    We have both a Samsung Q930B and a Sonos Beam Gen2 on two LG OLEDs here so very familiar with the limitations mentioned. The "apple phone only" restriction is easy to get around. Just borrow a friend's apple device for 10 minutes to set up their room tuning feature, uninstall the Sonos app from their phone and then you can enjoy it without an Apple device. It's a set it once affair unless you move/change room setup. But the Samsung is definitely a superior product.

    • @bridew
      @bridew Рік тому

      Is the sonos comparable?

    • @jamesg8246
      @jamesg8246 Рік тому

      @@bridew comparable to what? The Samsung Q930b? Not even in the same category.

    • @bridew
      @bridew Рік тому

      @@jamesg8246 yes, thanks :) I missed a sale on the q930c here in France but there is still one on the q800c I'm thinking about going for it, hope there is not to much difference with the q930c (apart from rear speakers)

    • @jamesg8246
      @jamesg8246 Рік тому

      @@bridew If it has the rear speakers that are wired to a remote amp, I'd pass. The models with wireless surrounds that have their own amp and only need ac power are better.

  • @epicsports24
    @epicsports24 11 місяців тому +1

    Great review. A shame you did not test this with a modern Samsung Q-Symfonie TV. Sonos is now even less interesting since Q-Symfonie gives a far better sound experience with voices coming from the actual mouths of the people you are watching. Sonos will never be able to do this if they dont get a dedicated Sonos TV or partner and its speakers to integrate with it. That sound experience is mind blowingly good to me. It really takes things up a whole level. The sound quality on tv’s especially top of the line versions has massively improved to the point that they should be part of any complete high level cinema experience.

  • @Bleed.Blue1990
    @Bleed.Blue1990 Рік тому

    I dont know about 35 but i picked one for $850 brand new,your review is appreciated and helped making a decision. For that price it was a no brainer.. Thank you

  • @XeRzclanPR
    @XeRzclanPR Рік тому +1

    Im a sonos owner and idc what the score ends up being, this is a great video and I like this dude. New sub 👍🏽

  • @nedis4
    @nedis4 11 місяців тому

    There’s one thing that bugs me ever since you mentioned it in your review at 16:24: why the hell is Atmos limited to 7 channel output in Standard mode? Isn’t the whole point of object based audio formats to make the best use of your physical speakers configuration? Is it a cost cutting measure by Samsung to limit true inner processing pipeline to just 7.1.4 and then upmix from there in other modes?

  • @oz8753
    @oz8753 10 місяців тому +1

    Excellent review! Thank you 🙏 what system would you recommend for Tv LG OLED C3?

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  10 місяців тому

      My video recommendations would not change based on that tv model - Sonos may release a new soundbar and more functionality this year so it may be worth waiting . ua-cam.com/video/UCnY0bGPpB8/v-deo.htmlsi=JslYwn-bDHxkGcJM

    • @oz8753
      @oz8753 10 місяців тому

      Thank you!

  • @mannyk7100
    @mannyk7100 Рік тому +2

    Great review! I am curious though, which has the better subwoofer? An underperforming sub is a deal breaker for me

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Рік тому +1

      Sonos in addition you can add two though I think Sammy’s sub is overly maligned

  • @MrDexterSr
    @MrDexterSr Рік тому +2

    Love this channel! ❤

  • @mrgold3591
    @mrgold3591 Рік тому +4

    I've already gone down the Sonos rabbit hole and probably stick with them for the next +5 years (18 total from Symfonisk, Beam, Arc, Fives, One SL, subs, Era 100). The ease of use with minimum frustrations from my non tech savvy family, my current/old iPhones or iPad can be a Sonos remote, being able to upgrade and repurpose individual componentes is a huge plus, don't do DVD/Bluray/XBox/Playstation, and it sound fantastic to me with any audio source.
    I replaced my Nakamichi 7.2.4 with the Arc, dual sub, & Fives after X-mas and haven't regretted the upgrade. I can wait for the Arc v2 or Era 500s and hand down my Arc v1 or Fives to a family member, sell, or use in a spare room.

    • @ishkapiska4516
      @ishkapiska4516 Рік тому

      You should try Blu-rays/4K blurays cz that’s how you’ll get the best sound compared to streaming platforms so you’ll get to use ur sonos system to its full potential(:

    • @mrgold3591
      @mrgold3591 Рік тому

      @@ishkapiska4516 I did Blu-ray with Netflix; but, stopped because of the slow turnaround time and reduced selection over time compared to streaming. I think we will see an increase in streaming audio quality that will take full advantage to be very similar to Blu-ray in a few years. I'm beginning to think all physical media will go away in favor for streaming with faster data speeds.

  • @Piranga
    @Piranga 9 місяців тому

    Just bought my Sonos today with 200 euros off. Amazing soundbar. By the way, good video. Regards from Portugal.

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  9 місяців тому +1

      I like hearing my vids are making it over to some of the prettier parts of the 🌎

  • @saiksaikatai594
    @saiksaikatai594 Рік тому +1

    Serious work, i have some disagreement but you did everything with care. new subscriber.

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Рік тому +2

      I rarely allow dissenters but I’ll make an exception. Appreciate the comment.

  • @MohsinWadee
    @MohsinWadee Рік тому

    Your vid around 28:00, Samsung does support both Spotify and Tidal Connect - which is streaming from the server and not Bluetooth - and since these are very popular streaming services, it's unlikely your phone will be interrupted.

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Рік тому

      Correct … I’m correcting that rhetoric in future videos

  • @davidoconnor903
    @davidoconnor903 Рік тому

    Great review, I'm so close to purchasing the Sonos system, but after this review, I will wait for the next Arc and deal with subpar sound for another or two.

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Рік тому +1

      I’ll reiterate to Sonos the dire need for an updated bar 😀 - can’t have you waiting too long

    • @thenonexistinghero
      @thenonexistinghero Рік тому

      I don't think it'll beat Samsung since their priority seems to be on aesthetics. But if you're an extremely good hacker you'll get the Samsung bar and the Sonos Era 300 speakers and pair them up. Or you can just buy a Nakamichi Dragon instead and get the best of both worlds for the price of them both combined (assuming you don't get a deal on them, if you do get a deal on them it's more expensive).

  • @whitecrowuk575
    @whitecrowuk575 Рік тому

    Not sure if I missed it but Sonos doesn’t do Dolby surround/ adaptive mode so no upmixing - if source is stereo that what you will get. Literally every other manufacturer is upmixing to use all speakers.

  • @kiran3030
    @kiran3030 Місяць тому

    You are awesome!
    I’m here after seeing Sonos 2024 Black Friday deals. I also watched your Q990C vs. Q990D video. I don’t plan to use my system for gaming. I finally bought the Q990C for $670 through Samsung EPP. Please let me know if that’s a good decision.

  • @maxatv
    @maxatv Рік тому +3

    were you able to get a dragon in the august 3rd release? Can't wait for your review on that, feels like its going to blow everything else away

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  Рік тому +3

      It’s ordered - we’ll see if Nakamichi can do its part

  • @Cocker_Spaniel
    @Cocker_Spaniel Рік тому +3

    Does the q990b pair well with a sony tv? Or it has connectivity issues and usability?

    • @zecumbe
      @zecumbe Рік тому

      I have bought the q990b to go with a Sony x90k in November and have had 0 issues. Just simply plug and play flawlessly and the sound is amazing.

    • @Cocker_Spaniel
      @Cocker_Spaniel Рік тому +1

      @@zecumbe nice to hear since robinsons review I am afraid to buy because I have a x90j

    • @victorwakka7979
      @victorwakka7979 Рік тому +1

      0 issues

  • @arslanelver
    @arslanelver 13 днів тому

    Hi! Watching your videos with lots of interest. I have a beam gen2 sub mini and era100s.
    I am seriously considering arc ultra upgrade or go for a q990d. I dont have a big living room (4.5x3.5meter) anytime i go and check q990d in a retailer…. It just looks huge (and ugly, particularly subwoofer). May i know your thoughts since you have the both? I know with era300’s and arc ultra, it ll sound better than q990d. Or at least i am sure :) but still would like to know on both topics your thoughts

  • @dki1361
    @dki1361 11 місяців тому

    Thanks. I was secretly hoping your answer was definitive about the HW-Q990C. I will wait for the technology in this area to develop further to get quality Dolby Atmos sound.

    • @rerickre
      @rerickre 5 місяців тому

      I was a Sonos only guy but just got the 990D from PC Richards for more than $1,000 less than the Sonos W/ the 300 rears. $1,400.

  • @pietterson98
    @pietterson98 Рік тому +1

    Hi, great content. Very detailed, its not "fancy" but packet with information. Congrats.
    I live in Poland and I bought q990 for about 900$. In case of sonos, only Arc costs ~1k$ not mentioning the rest of the set so I dont think that this is fair battle ;)
    Sonos sound very dry and cold for me... Something like JBL

  • @danieladam86
    @danieladam86 9 місяців тому

    Great review, thanks! One thing that puzzled me you kept referring to Bluetooth streaming on Q990C as if that was the only option (apart from Chromcast I think). But it seems to me Spotify Connect is available, which I think majority of people use afaik.

    • @neverenoughtech
      @neverenoughtech  9 місяців тому +1

      Spotify connect yes … chromecast is limited to a few regions. The Q990D got a more widespread Chromecast

  • @Zuudloarn
    @Zuudloarn 2 місяці тому +1

    Great comparison and I completely agree. Samsung offers a lot for less than half the Sonos price. But Sonos is much more flexible and much better for HiFi audio. And above all; Sonos keeps good value. Try selling your Samsung home cinema after 1 year, you get 1/3 of your initial investment 😢

  • @manishmv
    @manishmv 5 місяців тому

    Hi ! Do you think that chosing q990 C is wise descision if compared to basic atmos AVR setup just for music lisening mostly? Is Q990C is able to match the audio listening quality with Atmos AVR setup?

  • @iamthechessmaster
    @iamthechessmaster 11 місяців тому

    I mean, people in multiple places mention that "they can feel things above them", I can't even hear them in a slightly convincing way. Its like 0 height at all for me...
    With Top Gun Maverick (and other ATMOS files) it displays Dolby Digital Plus, is Atmos infered to be in there as well? Playing an it through PLEX.

  • @kabaneri2
    @kabaneri2 Рік тому +1

    I have a q930b. Had the chance to listen to sonos its not even close. Samsung always is the best bang for the buck.