Well, DELTARUNE Chapter 3 & 4 Are Releasing Soon?

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  • Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
  • A whole lotta evidence has lead me to believe that DELTARUNE Chapters 3 & 4 might be releasing sooner than we all thought. Let's chat about that!
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 619

  • @HarryButHarry
    @HarryButHarry  Місяць тому +167

    Heya! Thanks for watching, I'll be back with something familiar soon. ('Read more' for corrections)
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    At 10:16, I say Chapter 1 released in 2019 when, in reality, it released in 2018. I must've been looking at the Nintendo Switch release date, which was in 2019. This makes the calculation for the amount of days in between the chapters incorrect - instead of 687 days, it is 1052 days (around 3 years). Still, I think my point stands that a 3-year development cycle for Chapter 3 & 4 is a reasonable estimate.

    • @alanmoon2448
      @alanmoon2448 Місяць тому +2

      the first chapter released in 2018 bro

    • @whatsHisF
      @whatsHisF Місяць тому +22

      ​@@alanmoon2448brodie literally addresses it in the comment you're reading

    • @shitpostmania6061
      @shitpostmania6061 Місяць тому +3

      iirc, the actual development of chapter started late 2019 or early 2020. As they spent time trying out new game engine to make chapter 2 (tho they went back to gamemaker). So ch2 could've been released way earlier if they just used gamemaker since start.

    • @user-TheTrueGibly
      @user-TheTrueGibly Місяць тому

      seeing the dark world in chapter 3 is already spoilers enough, he probably just can't find anything to show off without spoiling the theme. Every chapter allows you to explore dark/light world, so he probably threw those minor light world interactions in as he knew it wouldn't spoil much.

    • @user-TheTrueGibly
      @user-TheTrueGibly Місяць тому

      so I doubt chapter 4 will be light world focused

  • @user-by1xd9sl7u
    @user-by1xd9sl7u Місяць тому +873

    Y'know what's one of my favorite things about Toby Fox?
    he communicates, even when there's nothing to say. his last several newsletters have just been like "we're still working, it going to be a while, but its coming."
    I guaruntee the Hollow Knight community would be in way less restlessness and disarray if Team Cherry would communicate at all, even if there isn't really much to say

    • @personexisting123
      @personexisting123 Місяць тому +123

      That probably contributed a lot to the insanity of the hollow knight fandom, waiting is one thing, waiting with very little information or developer communication is a whole other beast

    • @nickfarace9339
      @nickfarace9339 Місяць тому +61

      I mean, not saying you are wrong here but, we got WAY more tan just "we are still working" from the last two letters. We got a pretty detailed breakdown of exactly where 4 was in development!

    • @Senkoki
      @Senkoki Місяць тому +18

      this is also one of the many things that Relogic have going for them too, monthly updates on the state of Terraria content, whether that be 1.4.5, the graphic novel or what

    • @user-by1xd9sl7u
      @user-by1xd9sl7u Місяць тому +3

      @@Senkoki agreed

    • @mrblakeboy1420
      @mrblakeboy1420 Місяць тому +4

      yanderedev:

  • @a_major_in_stupidity
    @a_major_in_stupidity Місяць тому +2118

    we better not get GTA6 before chapter 3

    • @Balloonest
      @Balloonest Місяць тому +98

      If GTA 6 comes first, then you know you're slow

    • @MeatShtik
      @MeatShtik Місяць тому +173

      I can't wait to play Deltarune Chapter 10 in 2050 while I wait for GTA 7

    • @juzox5161
      @juzox5161 Місяць тому +33

      SBR being animated before Chapter 3&4 gets released

    • @jacobrodriguez7365
      @jacobrodriguez7365 Місяць тому +13

      ​@@MeatShtikonly seven chapters are planned

    • @whocaresaboutthename6850
      @whocaresaboutthename6850 Місяць тому

      ​@@jacobrodriguez7365Not confirmed, there could be a option for scrolling down, and there are indeed files for Chapter 8 to 10 and even Chapter 10

  • @insertnamehere1398
    @insertnamehere1398 Місяць тому +595

    actually (idk what you were thinking) chapter 2 took 2 years AND 11 months to finish. but thats only because toby's wrist broke and they spent a lot of time changing engines just to find out their initial engine was fine

    • @HarryButHarry
      @HarryButHarry  Місяць тому +115

      yeah, I got my dates a bit mixed up there. I accidentally put the year of the Chapter 1 Nintendo Switch release in my notes. I did make a correction in the pinned comment. Even then, I think the estimate of a three-year dev cycle for two chapters is reasonable now, especially with the troubles they had during Chapter 2's development.

    • @RaidSpinel
      @RaidSpinel Місяць тому +1

      As a Gamemaker user Gamemaker is not fine, but it's unique and powerful enough that switching is a real hassle. It's not intuitive what's easy and/or possible in another engine, but the corporate entity behind Yoyo Games has been pushing for a subscription model but removing features from cheaper and otp versions, and an obnoxious partnership with Opera GX gave them more excuses to move features people have had access to to subscription models (including making executable files).
      Also, it has a reputation for being a lot more like RPG maker than it really is, not quite assetflip machines like Unity or Unreal, but plenty of poorly made ideaguy games are associated with Gamemaker and its Visual Language.
      Supposedly Toby&Co have a working relationship with the ground level Yoyo Games team which is cool, based on things he's said about features for the engine, but I would never recommend it to anyone. It's hard to switch and reaching into your wallet at all times.
      That's a rant I'm tired and saw red at the unintentional implication GMS:2 was fine

    • @MarcusGronkowski
      @MarcusGronkowski Місяць тому +32

      Also, Covid/quarantine played a huge role in delaying Chapter 2

    • @glasses6524
      @glasses6524 Місяць тому +7

      didn’t he also script out the whole game?

    • @Bits0910
      @Bits0910 14 днів тому

      Ok so we know that chapter 3,4 and 5 will be an WORK OF ART at this point, i cant be more excited to play this

  • @michaelyanni6061
    @michaelyanni6061 Місяць тому +795

    7 Developers,seven human souls, OH MY GOD!

    • @Youpi-n1f
      @Youpi-n1f Місяць тому +92

      WE CAN BREAK THE BARRIERS

    • @hibilbo4755
      @hibilbo4755 Місяць тому +108

      please do not kill the dev team, the game will never get done then

    • @questionmarkquestionmarkques
      @questionmarkquestionmarkques Місяць тому +12

      those are the seven main ones but they arent the only people working on the game

    • @dreamsolaris
      @dreamsolaris Місяць тому +33

      King Fox wants to collect human devs, 7 of them, it's his ultimate goal

    • @Yuti640
      @Yuti640 Місяць тому +5

      Nah, Toby is a monster, so he has a monster SOUL

  • @MeloniestNeon
    @MeloniestNeon Місяць тому +381

    Haven't finished watching yet, but Toby just tweeted that his friends had played through an unfinished but fully playable Chapter 4! (and they enjoyed it, but that was always a given)
    This could mean that we get the next two chapters this year, likely after the usual fall release window, but we could easily get a release date this fall if nothing else!

    • @Renamin
      @Renamin Місяць тому +21

      @@MeloniestNeon Honestly even if we get it in december or even a release date shown in december I am happy

    • @randomlittleidot
      @randomlittleidot Місяць тому +4

      he never said fully playable. however, i pray we get 3 + 4 in fall

    • @MeloniestNeon
      @MeloniestNeon Місяць тому +31

      @@randomlittleidot I mean, "played through" implies the whole chapter to start and finish is playable, in some form. Doesn't mean every room, enemy, or puzzle is fully finished and polished, just that the game is able to be played start to finish.

    • @randomlittleidot
      @randomlittleidot Місяць тому +4

      @@MeloniestNeon ok! fair enough

    • @anothername2557
      @anothername2557 Місяць тому

      wasnt it that they played just one mechanic to test it out? like he clarified, an unchanged version of chapters 1 n 2 with that mechanic?

  • @ZebraDragon-dq6cx
    @ZebraDragon-dq6cx Місяць тому +400

    my prediction for the release is December. not only is it the perfect amount of time for toby and the team to finish and polish the chapters, but the month itself is also relevant. and I think we're definitely going to get more Dess related lore in the next two chapters.

    • @majesticfirebird2310
      @majesticfirebird2310 Місяць тому +32

      I like the idea, chapters 3 & 4 would make such a wonderful Christmas present 😊

    • @ruthenium6648
      @ruthenium6648 Місяць тому +13

      I hope we find her. Poor Noelle

    • @jollyjadentnt7963
      @jollyjadentnt7963 Місяць тому

      @@ruthenium6648There is a lost girl, and we must find her…

    • @PNats-fg4bw
      @PNats-fg4bw Місяць тому +8

      In fact we are getting them on the December Holiday

    • @realPurpleOrb
      @realPurpleOrb Місяць тому +17

      In more ways than one, December 25th would be perfect.
      -Holiday Family
      -Releases on a holiday, like Chapter 1
      -Great Christmas present

  • @CoreyTVTheEpicDavid8
    @CoreyTVTheEpicDavid8 Місяць тому +150

    chapter 3 is DEFINITELY done now, if not, 99.9% complete. Toby also said a couple of days ago that he had some of his friends play the unfinished chapter 4, so im betting that chapter 4 is atleast 65-75% done in general, and 85% content complete.

    • @LemonLover110
      @LemonLover110 Місяць тому +1

      Where did Toby ever said that his friends played the unfinished Chapter 4? I looked on his Tumblr and Twitter but found nothing. Could you please tell me where you got this from?

    • @LemonLover110
      @LemonLover110 Місяць тому +9

      Nevermind I was just a dumbass and I didn't notice it somehow

    • @elliotsturtplus340
      @elliotsturtplus340 Місяць тому +4

      To be fair I imagine chapter 4 will probably be a short chapter as in a sorta break between chapters 3 and 5 so more of hometown which I’m actually ok with

  • @cherrybombwaffles518
    @cherrybombwaffles518 Місяць тому +470

    my prediction is that by the time we get the summer newsletter, chapter 3 will be complete, while chapter 4 will be nearing completion. my predicted release date was either November or December 2024, but yours sounds possible too. either way, great analysis dude. hopefully you're right though, because the wait has been dreadful for me

    • @beigelbites
      @beigelbites Місяць тому +47

      Correct me if I'm wrong, but toby already said in the last newsletter that chapter 3 is complete if not dang near complete, right? And that chapter 4 only has a few more things left? I wouldn't exclude the possibility that we get a release date in the summer newsletter.

    • @SapoAgiota
      @SapoAgiota Місяць тому +18

      Toby said chapter 3 is completed and chapter 4 is almost fully completed, we might get chapters 3 and 4 by the end of the year or by the start of next year

    • @randomlittleidot
      @randomlittleidot Місяць тому +5

      @@SapoAgiotachapter 4 isn’t really ALMOST done, i’d assume its a bit more than halfway complete (steamrolling takes a long time)

    • @DamageMaximo
      @DamageMaximo Місяць тому +1

      chapter 3 is complete

    • @pancakes8670
      @pancakes8670 Місяць тому +2

      That's already the case. There isn't going to be a summer newsletter, as Toby said he won't release any more newsletters until the chapters are out

  • @namelessnavnls8060
    @namelessnavnls8060 Місяць тому +9

    I'm so glad I get to experience Deltarune blind, unlike my experience with Undertale, which I learned about from the internet and had just.. relentlessly spoiled for me despite literally everyone warning me not to watch stuff about it without playing it first. No one to blame for that one but myself honestly. I'm happy to play through Deltarune as it was meant to be played though, it's refreshing and wonderful.

  • @GameJam230
    @GameJam230 Місяць тому +69

    After he gave one of the last progress updates for Chapter 3, I have thoroughly believed that Chapters 3 and 4 could come out by late this year or early next at the LATEST. Their development has only been getting more and more efficient, and it seems like they've found an extremely good stride in development and a really good team size. You can't have too few or each person gets burnt out fast, but too many cooks in the kitchen spoils the broth too. Having a proper manager with a moderately sized team seems perfect for this.

    • @wix-1-3dgcjt6
      @wix-1-3dgcjt6 Місяць тому +2

      ia am 100% convinced that it's coming out this year too.

  • @clowniguess
    @clowniguess Місяць тому +57

    Also wanted to mention that Toby underneath the twitter post talking about the new newsletter this month, he mentions that some of his friends played through Chapter 4, meaning the entire chapter is in an at least playable state. That means the team could already have started work on steamrolling for quality control and bugtesting.

    • @HarryButHarry
      @HarryButHarry  Місяць тому +35

      Yeah, we're officially in the "Toby's Friend Playing The Chapter" stage of development now.
      Wait...... "Friend"...? 🤠

    • @clowniguess
      @clowniguess Місяць тому +18

      @@HarryButHarry N-NO NOT AGAIN-!

    • @stardust-reverie
      @stardust-reverie Місяць тому

      @@HarryButHarryf fff ri end ins side m m me

    • @_Blu3e
      @_Blu3e Місяць тому +4

      ​@@clowniguess friend inside me

  • @loganthecoolcatdude4183
    @loganthecoolcatdude4183 Місяць тому +557

    We love Toby Fox

    • @JamesonTheFamouson
      @JamesonTheFamouson Місяць тому +19

      We all love the foam shower guy🤷‍♂️

    • @user-rt9lk8bp3c
      @user-rt9lk8bp3c Місяць тому +1

      Don’t be so parasocial dude, he doesn’t know you. You’re nothing but a statistic to bro

    • @Supercub-fp1qb
      @Supercub-fp1qb Місяць тому +40

      @@user-rt9lk8bp3c extremely loud incorrect buzzer

    • @castery7037
      @castery7037 Місяць тому +6

      I love you bro

    • @Dragon_Gamer8181
      @Dragon_Gamer8181 Місяць тому +31

      @@user-rt9lk8bp3c Bros going through his joker arc

  • @Zephyr713
    @Zephyr713 Місяць тому +86

    My prediction is, Toby Fox is psychic and is waiting until I leave to go camping for two weeks and he will release then

    • @LevGreen-Wells
      @LevGreen-Wells Місяць тому +30

      Please go camping at your soonest convenience, we can speed up the process!!!!

    • @ThatOneFlowey
      @ThatOneFlowey Місяць тому +1

      Bijuu Mike when fnf weekend 1 releases ass moment

    • @LadWithTheHat
      @LadWithTheHat Місяць тому

      real

    • @KiraJ-ru7ll
      @KiraJ-ru7ll Місяць тому +1

      Real (except I'm not camping, it's something else I'll be doing)

    • @KiraJ-ru7ll
      @KiraJ-ru7ll Місяць тому

      *PLANE*

  • @Catishcat
    @Catishcat Місяць тому +19

    October 31 2024 for Ch3-4, December 25 2025 for Ch5, September 15 2028 for Ch6-7 and I will stand by it.

    • @CoreyTVTheEpicDavid8
      @CoreyTVTheEpicDavid8 Місяць тому +4

      @@Catishcat I like how you put chapter 5 as Christmas day... coincidence?

  • @underdeveloptcorrupt
    @underdeveloptcorrupt Місяць тому +66

    While nothing has been directly confirmed by Toby Fox, a well-known member of the GameMaker community, Shauna Spaulding, has recently stated they've been hired into the team. The exact time period when she was hired is unknown to my knowledge however.
    EDIT:
    A few other things to note-
    Chapter 2 is the most content heavy chapter in the game, with several factors that played into the start of its development which made it take longer than anticipated. These issues, like what game engine the rest of the game would be made in, have been sorted out. So not only do they have the base engine to work with figured out for the rest of the game, they're also working on smaller chapters, with more people on board, which could re-frame estimates for when chapters will be releasing.
    Really good video by the way!

    • @PNats-fg4bw
      @PNats-fg4bw Місяць тому

      Sara Spalding did confirm in one of her latest videos that she was in fact working on Deltarune

    • @lybon6972
      @lybon6972 Місяць тому

      How do we know chapter 2 is the most content heavy? I know it needed the most work to set up given that the engine was remade and all but I figure every dark world is going to be as involved as cyber city

    • @underdeveloptcorrupt
      @underdeveloptcorrupt Місяць тому +7

      @@lybon6972 it was in one of the newsletters. Toby said chapter 2 was the most content heavy, followed by explaining that chapter 3 was going to be the most 'unique' chapter in terms of gameplay.

    • @Theking-vx6zp
      @Theking-vx6zp Місяць тому +6

      tbh I dont really believe Toby here. He is known to severely underestimate the scope of the game, like how he said that cyber city is going to be the smallest part of the chapter. Even if he already completely mapped out every chapter beforehand, sometimes you just dont know the scope of something until you actually fully start working on it.

    • @underdeveloptcorrupt
      @underdeveloptcorrupt Місяць тому +5

      ​@@Theking-vx6zp this is also a good viewpoint to have, especially when it comes to something like game development. i completely forgot about cyber city's size before chapter 2's release, good catch!

  • @ecstaticwooper368
    @ecstaticwooper368 Місяць тому +3

    honestly, my biggest hope for the chapter is just that it has the same level of impeccable attention to detail as the first 2 (with obscure interactions like when you re-encounter the first Rudinn and it says "Presumably a different Rudinn from last time appeared!" which made me laugh way harder than it should've) if it does I swear I'll spend hours just exploring every tiny corner of the game to find all the random easter eggs and it's gonna be SO FUN

  • @epicgamer2502
    @epicgamer2502 Місяць тому +61

    So basically we're getting it in the next 3 - 6 months

  • @LitFreshGirl
    @LitFreshGirl Місяць тому +11

    4:49 I love this little detail you added, just to show your appreciation for Toby’s hard work!

  • @juanj3351
    @juanj3351 Місяць тому +27

    As a story teller and making my own stories as a kid. I always had the ending first. I believe chapter 7 in terms of script or ending is already set and everything is carefully being places in motion for toby to get to the ending HE wants (not the ending we want) because he said that he had the ending to the game already so thats a given. Nothing ofc has probably been work on for any of the kater chapters other than script/story purposes in my speculation as a small time writer

    • @jonarhax3388
      @jonarhax3388 Місяць тому +9

      I like to imagine tobi has a vault in his house dedicated to a little script about the very ending of deltarune

    • @Arisoup
      @Arisoup 29 днів тому +1

      @@jonarhax3388lmao that's good 😭

  • @cannonballking7
    @cannonballking7 Місяць тому +43

    I think it's pretty likely that we are going to get it this year, and while I personally am thinking more December to fall into that hot button release window, I am aware Toby and his team aren't money men so it is anyone's game. I feel like the two chapters will likely release for $15 USD as it's price point, but I'm almost certain that with it we're going to get major sales or even a discounted final package when the game is fully complete.
    Overall it seems like development is decently smooth sailing now that the major hurdles were crossed during the initial development of Chapter 2 and now there is more framework in place to allow for future development to occur without having to overhaul. And if I want to go out on a major limb I think chapter 5 will be done by late 2025 - early 2026 and the final game will be fully released at 2028, though this is major prediction and simply based off the facts outlined and the likelihood of more people being hired on as things develop.
    Overall cool video which lays out all the info in a succinct manner and it's good to hear another person with more laid back ability to discuss potential release dates, when around all the people apparently losing their minds over a pretty reasonable development time for a smaller team. Keep up the great work and have a lovely day :D

  • @cactoos654
    @cactoos654 Місяць тому +20

    i had a Divine Vision back in january that it WILL be out by the end of 2024, so theres your answer right there !

    • @CrabbChips
      @CrabbChips Місяць тому +8

      with the way toby talks about them i think something would have to go deeply wrong for chaoters 3 and 4 to not release in 2024

  • @dmclsl03
    @dmclsl03 Місяць тому +20

    All these talks about the launch of the game makes me happy and hopeful for Deltarune again
    I'm just praying for a Holiday 2024 release pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee

  • @Vectoris-ud8el
    @Vectoris-ud8el Місяць тому +22

    3:25 Also a new programmer, Shaun Spalding.

  • @lightningburst428
    @lightningburst428 Місяць тому +109

    I am betting BOTH kidneys this next newsletter is gonna be a good one.
    No, you can't have my kidneys.

    • @Renamin
      @Renamin Місяць тому +8

      Ill get one of your kidney then

    • @melodyMonger413
      @melodyMonger413 Місяць тому +9

      ​@@Renaminlet me have the other one

    • @AbsolutelyAri1
      @AbsolutelyAri1 Місяць тому

      Can I have your appendix?

    • @Renamin
      @Renamin Місяць тому +4

      @@melodyMonger413 sure

    • @TheTrueXaver
      @TheTrueXaver Місяць тому +4

      can i have the third?

  • @AbsolutelyAri1
    @AbsolutelyAri1 Місяць тому +21

    I don't even care were not getting 3 more chapters and instead getting 2. I just want SOMETHING atp 😭

  • @SpamDustt411
    @SpamDustt411 Місяць тому +5

    Oh Friend.
    I'm so excited to get Inside those new Chapters in some months.
    And hopefully we'll get the Newsletter in some days, it's a great day to be quite Me self!

  • @FeliksTheGoblin
    @FeliksTheGoblin Місяць тому +155

    My autism can’t take this

    • @makutas-v261
      @makutas-v261 Місяць тому +13

      real I hate the wait

    • @Walkhanien
      @Walkhanien Місяць тому +3

      @@makutas-v261well better waiting than a rushed game, right?
      Patience is what we need rn

    • @makutas-v261
      @makutas-v261 Місяць тому +1

      @@Walkhanien Sadly yes

    • @Digital_is_silly
      @Digital_is_silly Місяць тому +1

      @@WalkhanienYou are filled with PATIENCE 🩵

    • @Ghost-ul8eu
      @Ghost-ul8eu Місяць тому +1

      Maybe Toby should dial it back how about 5 chapters instead of 7 .Im worried this game might be too big and too ambitious to pull off.
      I mean 6 years isn't the worst but what if this game doesn't release until 2030 something. By then most Deltarune fans will have moved on to raise a family.

  • @Ongle_Spongle
    @Ongle_Spongle Місяць тому +9

    I know it’s probably not going to happen, and not to sound impatient, but I really hope that chapters 3-4 get released for pc *&* switch on the same day.
    I don’t want to go through waiting a whole *week* just to play it on switch like last time, but I’ll do it if I have to! 😭

    • @starnemi6825
      @starnemi6825 Місяць тому +5

      as a fellow switch player, hey, at least it wasnt LONGER than a week. could you imagine having to avoid those spoilers for a month, or even longer? 😭

  • @Jamielegge4221
    @Jamielegge4221 Місяць тому +2

    i cannot say how exited i am for the new chapters, ive been itching for new undertale/deltarune content for sooooo long

  • @2MeKids
    @2MeKids Місяць тому +34

    I heard there will be a July Deltarune Newsletter. Looking forward to that.

    • @TheUndeniablyPowerfulH
      @TheUndeniablyPowerfulH Місяць тому +2

      yehs

    • @lybon6972
      @lybon6972 Місяць тому +5

      toby clarified After the next gamemaker update which is also coming this month. I've tried to find info on that but I can't seem to find a tentative date, but it's still a 2 week maximum time.
      honestly my best case scenario and a wishful thought is that the gamemaker update will be the last piece of the puzzle. toby's been coy about release dates and only dropped information about chapter 2 like three days before its release, so i don't find it insane that he would try and manage our expectations and keep people from getting too hopeful in case something gets delayed. the gamemaker update in question is one that they've collaborated with toby's team on and developed a specific gamechange function for, which makes each chapter work as its own separate data file and whatnot. having the gamemaker update release as a necessary condition for news about a game which otherwise doesn't relate to a dev environment update makes me think they're more intertwined than the community generally believes

  • @TheGlenn8
    @TheGlenn8 Місяць тому +14

    I think we're definitely at the point where the fans are allowed to be frustrated with the slow progress. Honestly that point was a year ago. If it isn't releasing in this year I might actually go crazy.

    • @Moddingskylands
      @Moddingskylands Місяць тому +2

      uhh no, undertale took 7 years to make, every chapter so far has been longer than undertale, we are getting 2 chapters together so it will take twice as long to take.

    • @RichConnerGMN
      @RichConnerGMN Місяць тому +8

      ​@@Moddingskylandsundertale did NOT take 7 years what are you talking about

    • @Moddingskylands
      @Moddingskylands Місяць тому

      @@RichConnerGMN well if we remove the time it took him to think of everything its about 4 years, but still

    • @moistmarsupial3528
      @moistmarsupial3528 Місяць тому +5

      I'm all for the "let him cook" mindset, but I don't know how long toby realistically expects people to be invested in this game. For comparison, the entire original star wars trilogy took place over the span of 6 years, which is where we're at now with Deltarune with only 2 chapters to show for it. That is a LONG ass time by the standards of any media.

  • @tuikyo
    @tuikyo Місяць тому +166

    Christmas 2024, take it or leave it.

    • @CacildaCabra
      @CacildaCabra Місяць тому +60

      It is Christmas just week away, Can you belive it Chrismas only a week away, O wow Can you belive it Chrismas just a week away

    • @RonZ234
      @RonZ234 Місяць тому +5

      ​christmas tomorrow

    • @jessiepoliuyim651
      @jessiepoliuyim651 Місяць тому

      Pablo profile picture?!?!

    • @zetaright
      @zetaright Місяць тому +1

      Christmas yesterday

    • @FeliksTheGoblin
      @FeliksTheGoblin Місяць тому +5

      @@CacildaCabraNoelle moment

  • @kylebooface6359
    @kylebooface6359 Місяць тому +12

    I’m calling it Here and Now. They’re both releasing in September, just like chapter 2.

    • @HarryButHarry
      @HarryButHarry  Місяць тому +4

      Thinking about it, September *could* be possible. Generally, late Q3 or Q4 of the year seems the most likely for the release of Toby Fox's games. Chapter 1, 2, and Undertale all released in Q3 or Q4.

    • @arjunbaweja7755
      @arjunbaweja7755 Місяць тому

      I’m thinking more Christmas ish time imo

    • @shadowspringtrap3122
      @shadowspringtrap3122 2 дні тому

      It's nearly September but nothing yet, I think October or November but who knows.

    • @kylebooface6359
      @kylebooface6359 День тому

      @@shadowspringtrap3122 i’m still holding out hope

  • @PNats-fg4bw
    @PNats-fg4bw Місяць тому +5

    Here's my prediction:
    Chapters 1&2 are getting small glowups in terms of quality standards to match 3&4 (nothing crazy). We will probably get that update before 3&4, since toby says he's waiting for the next GameMaker update to release the newsletter (it makes no sense for him to wait for an engine update to release a newsletter otherwise). This GameMaker function is about changing what game you are playing on the go, which they will use in the chapter selection screen, every chapter will be a different "game" to put it like that.
    Also probably we will not get a release date in the July 2024 newsletter, but rather in september with some anniversary event. As for when we are getting 3&4? Probably november or december. Gaster still has to contact us for this "Third connection"

  • @sharppython
    @sharppython Місяць тому +3

    the best possible time for it to be is christmas day. perfect game to buy and have a cozy christmas

  • @jma0645
    @jma0645 Місяць тому +67

    Chapter 3 and 4 will release in a bundle along side silk song

  • @Xhera
    @Xhera Місяць тому +2

    As of recently Shaun Spalding has also joined the dev team! They helped out a bit with Chapter 2 and announced recently that they got hired full time to help with the game on their channel!

  • @Mysterious-Stranger
    @Mysterious-Stranger Місяць тому +2

    Thank you for putting all the info together - from someone who hasn't had the time to follow as closely

  • @Amber7H
    @Amber7H Місяць тому +64

    i honestly have no idea where the idea of chapter 4 not having a dark world came from, toby literally stated that chapter 4 will be "a more standard chapter"

    • @shitpostmania6061
      @shitpostmania6061 Місяць тому +2

      "a standard chapter" cuz chapter 3, iirc, is focused on unique gameplay and new mechanics. So standard as ch2 type chapter?
      Also ch4 having no dark world is probably cuz of screenshots that were provided (they were from ch4)

    • @Amber7H
      @Amber7H Місяць тому +34

      @@shitpostmania6061 i feel like the screenshots not showing the dark world is because toby wants it to be a surprise

    • @Theking-vx6zp
      @Theking-vx6zp Місяць тому +9

      In the last newsletter toby literally says that he needs to improve the flow of the bosses. Pretty sure this means that chapter 4 is gonna have a dark world.

    • @shitpostmania6061
      @shitpostmania6061 Місяць тому +1

      @@Amber7H yes hope so. I love the themes of dark world
      (Also i got ratio'd hard... For some reason)

  • @ultranathan992
    @ultranathan992 Місяць тому +7

    I think we will get chapter 3 and 4 in 2024 or early 2025. But i also think that Chapter 5 will be the quickest chapter to come out of the rest. Since chapter 5 is somewhat being worked on already but i also believe it will still take over a year to make... Though with the team getting bigger and getting used to each other i think we will get Chapter 5 Before 2027

  • @bombardo6118
    @bombardo6118 Місяць тому +4

    "I think a larger development team is likely to mean a faster development cycle" very funny thing to say about someone who used to work on Homestuck

  • @bobbiejoringulet5040
    @bobbiejoringulet5040 Місяць тому +14

    I feel like the earliest they can release is early to Mid fall

  • @Sailorstrn
    @Sailorstrn Місяць тому +1

    starting highschool, and then graduating before chapter 3, and 4 is crazy

  • @Drydoctor-qo5wt
    @Drydoctor-qo5wt Місяць тому +81

    1:45 my American brain was like “14/02/24…? There’s not a 14th month!
    Oh.”

    • @laceylopp7039
      @laceylopp7039 Місяць тому +19

      Fourbember

    • @JhonnyWaltz
      @JhonnyWaltz Місяць тому +2

      @@laceylopp7039Gunther Mire

    • @JhonnyWaltz
      @JhonnyWaltz Місяць тому +6

      Why is americas like that, i know were cool and everything but why not just use the more better system…
      Oh never mind…

    • @ivythay4259
      @ivythay4259 Місяць тому +3

      @@JhonnyWaltz it's written how it's spoken, not hierarchical

    • @JhonnyWaltz
      @JhonnyWaltz Місяць тому +1

      @@ivythay4259 sickomode I just wanted to know

  • @DDub04
    @DDub04 Місяць тому +3

    I was in middle school when Undertale came out, and by the time chapter 5 comes out I’ll probably have graduated college.
    I am willing to wait because I believe Deltarune will be a masterpiece. I truly hope it’s seen through to its best.

  • @mikubrot
    @mikubrot Місяць тому +3

    something that's very unlikely but would also be pretty cool is chapter 5 releasing on Undertale's 10th anniversary next year (sept 15)

    • @CoreyTVTheEpicDavid8
      @CoreyTVTheEpicDavid8 Місяць тому

      Probably. Quite unlikely, but if ANYTHING comes out, there will be a demo for Ch.5

  • @artin6059
    @artin6059 Місяць тому +1

    didn't follow the news for the game for quite some time, thanks for updating me!

  • @kovexplay
    @kovexplay Місяць тому +6

    This video reminded me that Toby changed his plans toward the release of the next few chapters. When I read his recent tweet I was like "Really cool that chapter 4 is technically playable all the way to the end but I don't really expect it to release this year, after all we don't know how much progress was made with chapter 5!" but now I think we might see the next 2 chapters relatively soon. Of course it's not concrete but we are seemingly getting closer than expected. Perhaps not necessarily this year (although the 4th quarter isn't too far fetched) but the beginning of 2025 is a pretty safe bet. So basically just like you speculated

  • @TheGeladoo
    @TheGeladoo Місяць тому +6

    I don't think it's weird to think Chapter 5 may release standalone. The initial plan was to end the first paid release with Chapter 5, so there's clearly something in it that made Toby think it will be a good stopping point while we wait for the rest of the game to be completed. It might end on a really juicy cliffhanger, for example. So I definitely agree with you.
    On top of that, if C4 *is* feature complete and they're already moving the feature team to C5 in this month, I think late 2025/early 2026 is a good assumption of when we might be getting it (not that I'm getting my hopes up until we have full confirmation from Toby of course, this is just speculation).

  • @daniellejackson6543
    @daniellejackson6543 Місяць тому +3

    Considering how smoothly things are by the may newsletter we might be very close but we need this month's newsletter to confirm that.

  • @thelightflare7960
    @thelightflare7960 Місяць тому +7

    Ok but imagine this...
    Chapter 3 & 4 - October 31th 2024
    Chapter 5 - DECEMBER 2025

    • @gjk-arts5855
      @gjk-arts5855 Місяць тому +3

      ok but imagine this…
      Chapters 3 - 4, somewhere between oct-dec 2024
      Chapter 5: UNDERTALES 10TH ANNIVERSARY SEPTEMBER 15TH 2025!!!!!!!!!!

    • @lofaber5664
      @lofaber5664 Місяць тому

      31th
      Thirty oneth

  • @marcustheBRAZILIAN
    @marcustheBRAZILIAN Місяць тому +48

    10:16
    uhh, actually it released in 2018

    • @HarryButHarry
      @HarryButHarry  Місяць тому +30

      crap, I must've been looking at the Nintendo Switch release date! I will add this as a correction in the pinned comment.

    • @prepubertyvoice6792
      @prepubertyvoice6792 Місяць тому +9

      ​@@HarryButHarryplus the bigger team, while ofc speeding it up, will prolly be more about making the game better rather than faster. I'm expecting June 2025 at the earliest lmaoooo

    • @AbsolutelyAri1
      @AbsolutelyAri1 Місяць тому +3

      ​@@prepubertyvoice6792I need to delude myself further

    • @prepubertyvoice6792
      @prepubertyvoice6792 Місяць тому +1

      @@AbsolutelyAri1 lmaoooooo

  • @lourdespachla6516
    @lourdespachla6516 Місяць тому +19

    conclusion:
    i guess i can safely tell you guys the probable progress of chapter 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 in a way, so here you go.
    chapter 3: 100% complete.
    chapter 4: 99% complete
    chapter 5: 10% or 25% depends if it is the knight's chapter cuz toby has the knight meeting concept sketched out.
    chapter 6: 0% or 1% same reason as ch. 5.
    chapter 7: 1% or 2% same reason as ch. 5, and also cuz deltarune's endiing comes from toby's fever dream, thus, he tecnically made it.

    • @abiyujabbar4304
      @abiyujabbar4304 Місяць тому +4

      If you mean by only programming progress then yes, all of this calculation might be correct. But you have to remember that all of the chapter storyboard and how it will affect the division of the jobs are probably already completed and set on stone. The way the storyboard that was made by Toby is that he probably made it from Chapter 7 up to Chapter 1 in the opposite way since Toby really emphasize Deltarune's Story with its ending.
      So, I would say that adding more 5-10% progress into all of the remaining chapter for full development progress including programming and storyboard progress are the way to go. There won't be any doubt for the development about what should have come next in the story since all of it already been done and the only thing they have to worry about is the programming.

  • @DragonTamer-ud1qo
    @DragonTamer-ud1qo Місяць тому +5

    I’m so excited for Chapters 3 and 4. The entire world is gonna feel like it changed

  • @amogamogus117
    @amogamogus117 Місяць тому +2

    I'm losing my mind I'm losing my mind the wait is making me crazier than spamton please Mr. Fox I beg I need more deltarune copium

  • @justapersonontheinternet9069
    @justapersonontheinternet9069 Місяць тому +3

    I have a feeling that we will know that Chapters 3&4 will release soon when Toby Fox’s twitter gets hacked / acts weird again lol
    (For those who don’t know what the heck im talking about toby fox posted weird tweets the same day chapter 2 was planned to be released. It has been theorized that whoever made the tweets is gaster due to the person who made the tweets writes in a similar fashion to how Entry 17 is written/spoken(?). This also happened back to 2018, when Chapter 1 of deltarune released.)

    • @HarryButHarry
      @HarryButHarry  Місяць тому +2

      I have a feeling that the newsletter that announces the release might get hacked by Gaster this time round, and Toby doesn't tease its release beforehand. Probably not this upcoming summer newsletter, but the next one.
      There is precedent for this, since Gaster has already sent us a valenties card in the Winter 2024 Newsletter.

  • @childeofepickness
    @childeofepickness Місяць тому +1

    watching this video with an inverted filter on (drawing challenge) and every time toby pops on screen I’m like “omg evil toby fox”

  • @user-np6mg8hf1p
    @user-np6mg8hf1p Місяць тому +20

    Friend inside me

    • @MeloniestNeon
      @MeloniestNeon Місяць тому +3

      There's a friend in my boot!

    • @AbsolutelyAri1
      @AbsolutelyAri1 Місяць тому +4

      The snake ate my boot so now there's a boot in my snake :(

    • @MuzikBike
      @MuzikBike Місяць тому +1

      GD practice music real name confirmed

  • @TruzzleBruh
    @TruzzleBruh Місяць тому +3

    We’ll get chapters 3-4 in late October/early November, no console release until Christmas-ish, then chapter 5 coming out in q4 2025.

  • @insertnamehere1398
    @insertnamehere1398 Місяць тому +5

    we live in a world where there is a real possibility that the producer is fucking masuhiro sakurai

    • @Beowolf-jy5rc
      @Beowolf-jy5rc 29 днів тому

      can i please have some context please.

  • @n.ar.
    @n.ar. Місяць тому +3

    thanks for making a video like this, it doesnt really matter if it releases on octuber but i needed to see SOMETHING related to development and get my hopes up :'D

  • @johngamer3138
    @johngamer3138 Місяць тому +4

    Both ch1 and ch2 released around fall, so maybe ch3 + ch4 would release around fall this year or next year.

  • @Pink_Woz
    @Pink_Woz Місяць тому +2

    As nice as it is that Toby plans to release multiple chapters at the same time, I'd much rather just wait in between each chapter.
    But either way, I hope things continue to go smoothly and we get Chapters 3 and 4 as soon as possible. No rush. Just excited

  • @TheRealUltimare
    @TheRealUltimare Місяць тому +4

    Yo does anyone think that we may get Chapters 3 & 4 on this year's Deltarune Anniversary? That's my prediction as that will be 4 months from when Toby said it was "quite far" in June, and at least for me, 4 months is "quite far."
    Edit: just finished watching the video and noticed that what I said was Harry's prediction. Well at least one person agrees with me lol
    Second Edit: Maybe if the chapters themselves don't come out on the anniversary, then the release dates for them will be shown on that day.

  • @nermomi
    @nermomi Місяць тому +3

    I like to imagine toby watching these videos like Miguel from Spider-Verse 2 wanting to say something but knowing he can't

    • @Catpixeled
      @Catpixeled Місяць тому +2

      Friend Inside Me is a canon event

  • @alexolas1246
    @alexolas1246 Місяць тому +2

    this would in fact track with the pattern of Fox et al releasing a broader-UT/DR thing every 3 years

  • @DiviDivo
    @DiviDivo Місяць тому +3

    this is one game i’m not waiting to go on sale to buy

  • @KyrieFortune
    @KyrieFortune Місяць тому +12

    Toby for the love of God, we're getting a full international release of Ace Attorney Investigations 2 before Chapter 3 & 4, we are fully into Gigapause mode. We're starving

  • @selena3467
    @selena3467 Місяць тому +6

    I mean I am very excited for Chapters 3 and 4 but once I finish them it's gonna be another 2 year wait for the next chapters. That's gonna be disappointing

  • @pakuvang4775
    @pakuvang4775 Місяць тому +1

    My guesses for the release dates are late 2024, and at the latest, early 2025. Whenever it is, I will no doubt be jumping around the house in excitement when it comes out- Take your time, Toby and devs!

  • @liampena1340
    @liampena1340 Місяць тому +5

    I think it will be released between October 2024 and February 2025

  • @FlameIsExisting
    @FlameIsExisting Місяць тому +5

    i'm gonna turn 30 before this game fully releases (I'm 19)

    • @mikeyhamato2012
      @mikeyhamato2012 Місяць тому +1

      Yo I am 20 and if I do not find love and marry by the time the entire game releases, I will actually lose my mind.

  • @christinacordova6271
    @christinacordova6271 Місяць тому +4

    I’m predicting that chapter 3 and 4 will release this year or like near the end of the year. Orrr it will release next year. Like in April or may.

  • @Youpi-n1f
    @Youpi-n1f Місяць тому +2

    Oh nice . Another prediction video that I'm going to re-watch when the chapter will be released. :D

  • @Omarestois2cool
    @Omarestois2cool Місяць тому +2

    Deltarune team making sure to take theyr time and drop the most perfect chapers ever (i love deltarune)

  • @gaming_bigfoot
    @gaming_bigfoot Місяць тому +2

    At this point I just wonder if I'll be around to see it completed

  • @skojebus7874
    @skojebus7874 Місяць тому +1

    If we’re still going by an autumn release date for the chapters i’m thinking the chapters to be releasing like this:
    3,4 2024
    5 2025 UT 10YR Anniversary
    6,7 (they could also be separated) 2027

  • @kingofflames738
    @kingofflames738 Місяць тому +3

    I honestly think this is for the better. I fear Chapter 4 could have been overshadowed by 3 and 5 if they all released together as the weird middle arc.

  • @P4BL0_C4L10
    @P4BL0_C4L10 Місяць тому +2

    I wonder if there are only 7 chapters, because in the game files there are up until 10 chapter intro animations, which could imply more than 10 chapters

    • @GKMedoh
      @GKMedoh Місяць тому

      Pretty sure they're placeholders but who knows?

  • @hahahehe115
    @hahahehe115 Місяць тому +2

    Don’t break the three year cycle Toby!

  • @user-id8kx1qt9v
    @user-id8kx1qt9v Місяць тому +2

    my theory is that it will release in september or october of this year (before 2023 my theory was this or last year) and my evidence is that every single tobyfox release date was 2-3 years apart and in september or october

  • @random_losers93
    @random_losers93 Місяць тому +4

    we’re all gonna die before deltarune is finished

  • @liamcarpenter625
    @liamcarpenter625 Місяць тому

    I imagine seeing one of those yt poll thingies (Yk what I mean)saying something like “which deltarune chapter is your favorite?” and having 4 options 😭

  • @wholekilogramofbutter480
    @wholekilogramofbutter480 Місяць тому +5

    chapters 3 and 4 release february 1st, 2025 just trust me

  • @lantcm613
    @lantcm613 Місяць тому +1

    Considering all factors, I’m also guessing that Q4 2024 is a likely window, maybe Q1 2025 if things take a bit longer.

  • @Osmicombo
    @Osmicombo Місяць тому +2

    random prediction, some deltarune chapter(s) will release in december at some point consider the importance of Dess.

  • @PinkaholicOfficial
    @PinkaholicOfficial Місяць тому

    I'm hoping for a release around Christmas, if only because I am fully willing to drop my academics to play these games the second they release

  • @valhund2629
    @valhund2629 Місяць тому +1

    I'm thinking October is a bit too soon. I think we will Definitely start getting marketing around that point, possibly even news that it's mostly ready, or even that its finished, but I think you're closer to the release date with December. however I also think there's a chance that might be copium talking and we aren't going to get both chapters until january at the earliest

  • @the_ceo_of_skull
    @the_ceo_of_skull Місяць тому +25

    Havent watched all the way through the video, but i predict that the next chapters/the internal deadline mention in the newsletter will be September-October 2025
    *_-the ceo of 💀_*

    • @thiccpotato4021
      @thiccpotato4021 Місяць тому +10

      there is no way its that late with all the mentions of new team members

    • @the_ceo_of_skull
      @the_ceo_of_skull Місяць тому +4

      @@thiccpotato4021 idk bro. When the second chapter took 2 years to release, it stands to reason that two chapters would take twice as long.
      Also even if it gets finished sometime in early in 2025, toby might decide to release it around undertale's 10th anniversary.
      *_-the ceo of 💀_*

    • @kingofdemons948
      @kingofdemons948 Місяць тому +14

      @@the_ceo_of_skullchapter 2 took longer cuz of factors like Toby’s injury and Covid, plus he didn’t have as much resources as he does now. And he mentioned how now with the addition of a manager and new
      Members development has never been quicker, and it makes sense for chapter 5 to come out in 2025 to celebrate Undertale’s 10th anniversary

    • @artyy3742
      @artyy3742 Місяць тому

      @@the_ceo_of_skull why do you end all of your messages with the ceo of skull thats the cringest most unfunny fucking gimmick ive ever seen

    • @skyeshades6250
      @skyeshades6250 Місяць тому +4

      plus, chapter 3 is practically complete and chapter 4 is complete enough to be fully played through, there's no way that it'll take a whole year or more just to finish up chapter 4

  • @NotRickLemon
    @NotRickLemon Місяць тому

    If you take notes from the newsletter, you can say that in the summer chapter 3 was likely in the same state as or at least close to how chapter 4 was portrayed(with the steamrolling state)
    and it took more 3 newsletters for toby to reveal that the team only needed to finish japanese localization to complete chapter 3, and considering that we are gonna have a newsletter by this month, and that usually newsletters come by 2 months, we can wait for it to likely drop on october/november?
    Remember that chapter 3 was really hard developing at first, but also don't forget that may be surprise factors for chapter 4
    Hopes up nonetheless!

    • @NotRickLemon
      @NotRickLemon Місяць тому

      Toby did not mention substancial cutscenes for ch3 in that newsletter, but with chapter 3 being much more of a gameplay based than a lore one, i believe they are at the same stage of developing (summer ch3 and spring ch4)

  • @ahawdjkmwodjikma6543
    @ahawdjkmwodjikma6543 Місяць тому +1

    nah watch they're gonna clutch and release on my birthday next week!!!

  • @finniganflimblez3109
    @finniganflimblez3109 Місяць тому

    My current guess is mid december to early January, hopefully the upcoming newsletter brings good news

  • @zeo4481
    @zeo4481 Місяць тому +3

    Sooner than we thought? It's been 3 years.. it'll be another more..

  • @joransybi
    @joransybi Місяць тому +4

    Great video man!

  • @sagacious03
    @sagacious03 Місяць тому +2

    Interesting analysis video! Thanks for uploading!

  • @privateterry7975
    @privateterry7975 Місяць тому +2

    The more i near thr more excited i get for thr upcoming chapter's

  • @yanifigeroua1719
    @yanifigeroua1719 20 днів тому +1

    The fact i replay chapter 1 and 2 everyday

  • @epotatoad
    @epotatoad Місяць тому

    10:16 Chapter 1 was released on the 31st of october 2018, not 2019. So it was closer to 3 years.

  • @memiluccia
    @memiluccia Місяць тому +1

    For me the perfect release might be end of December 2024 or mid January 2025, all this in base of what tells the newsletter of Toby (I guess that we get for the end of the month at this point)