We really appreciate your review and honest feedback as always Dave! Just one thing to note: That little plastic section you mentioned on each side is actually the location of the WiFi 6 antennae. Magnesium alloy would cause interference of the wireless radio otherwise. Thank you!
@@z4m0 cant wait to see him play for my Pistons.....hopefully he gets the starting spot over Jackson even though we'll be lucky to even make the 8th seed lol.
> 1.8 kg almost ultrabook weight > gtx 2070 max q > 7 hours of battery life > 144hz display > absurd thermals > really pretty This is a slap to the face of the bigger brands.
But the razer blade 15 is looking way better and that's what many people look for so this won't be the choice for editor's or people like that whats kinda sad. More weight would be ok for me for a cleaner and more quality kinda look. I am a gamer and music producer and i want to have both but the blade 15 still is my first choice just because it looks better. This laptop right here is more of a: I don't care how it looks, I will take it to the next hotel room, set it up and play thing. You wont rlly use it in public I think so I don't know but it's definitely a cool and very nice laptop. Edit: If you want to say something, read every answer before you write something please. Maybe it's already answered :)
@@estebanbrugal5100 Yea and thats it. I actually think that it looks better then most other gaming laptops out there and the advantages of that laptop are incredible good. No doubt. But if they would have made it more like a macbook kinda look and body it would get more attention I think. Like this many people prefer more heavy but also more high quality feeling laptops. I just think they should have looked out for these people too with maybe an extra version of this laptop or smth like this. I don't want to know how much attention it would get then.
It doesn't have absurd thermals, don't let Dave's inability to test stuff properly fool you. Everything else you stated is correct. Thermals are in the high 80s going to 90s and throttle back down. As for looks, looks just as nice as the black razer. If it came in a silver would look better.
@@creaturecore13 Idc about the thermals for now. I just say they are normal. But it does not look like a razer blade. The razer blade just looks smoth and this one looks like a completely normal laptop. Its not looking high quality build or even better then any other laptop from the teachers in school (yea its not plastic but still doesn't look that good).
No fancy lighting , good keyboard , good internals , a wonderful Square design . All done . I would pick this over any other laptop on the market right now.
That plastic bit was never a speaker cutout, its for wifi and BT signals, laptops that have full metal body, such as my yoga c930 has similar plastic cutouts
@@philsburydoboy they actually clarified that is because of the antena , magnesium creates interference with the wifi so they had to use plastic otherwise
When I got the money, I’m buying one RTX 2070 and 32gb ram it looks like it’ll be worth every cent. I’ll be able to finally run Solitaire with no issues
Sven Anderson ended up getting an Alienware 17 r4 and that has been phenomenal. Would like to get something more portable though. Which would more than likely be this when I plan to upgrade
@What all of eluktronics and other barebones brands like sager use clevo or tongfang chassis but I did my research on this and it seems like this model is definitely designed by intel 🤔 i wonder what setup eluktronics have with intel regarding eluktoboost
For me it still looks too much like a gaming notebook. The big logo, the crazy skin(s), the colorful keyboard... Imagine you sit with this laptop in business meeting. Would you really feel confident with it?
@@bjorn4703 the skin is sold by another company and totally avoidable, the keyboard colors can be customized, as it's totally RGB...it's a very plain laptop, no "business" issues
It still got that ugly ass font and branding tho. Ah, also more Thunderbolt could be better, i prefer more high bandwidth and universal ports than more legacy ports.
Holy shit. Dave has seen tons of laptops. Bad ones, good ones, and everything in between. If you somehow manage to impress Dave with thermals, then you did something amazing
I own an Asus Zephyrus, with amazing reviews all across the internet and I can tell you this generation of gaming laptops is fucked up, the 8th or 9th Intel generation cpus are way too hot for gaming in these chassis (at least with the 1070 I have). Don't get me wrong, you can play and play with smooth and high FPS but at the cost of unholy fan noise and throttling for many games. Yes, you can downvolt and install liquid metal but that will just improve the situation a little bit, I think the technology is not good enough yet to achieve proper gaming experience, at least in my opinion. Maybe this is the first laptop that does not throttle a lot but as previously said, Dave is not reliable in the thermals, the Alienware is a great example or also the very same Zephyrus I own, he runs a simple benchmark once and maybe he is in a 20ºC room, which is not realistic for many people.
@@darkstarshellby3435 good for you. as for me, well i'm waiting till i can get my sh*t back together and fix my life. i want to be able to play games without constantly worrying about my failures
Okay, as someone who's tired of the gamer-ey design that is super outlandish, I'm in love with this design aesthetic. Simple, understated, no weird cut off corners or angled shapes, and a nice thin bezel. The only thing I'm not a super-fan of is the keyboard. A more generic design would be perfect to me, because it would match the rest of the laptop a bit better. As far as the magnesium alloy frame goes, I wish all laptops in this price range were built to this standard. Plastic laptops feel in many cases like they're engineered to fail at the hinges and other weak points.
For the keyboard I mean you can always turn off the RGB or set it to 1 color. I think the keyboard is as generic as it gets really. My problem is that fucking eluktronics logo on top of the keyboard. If this exact laptop was made by razer with same design, specs and price, I would have bought it by now.
Look up----> big picture project . net←---read “the Present”. What it says can turn this world right side up from the very beginning of it. It is all truth you can check for yourself. I def would recommend.
@@earlj3638 The one dave complained about, that the keys dont have a proper border and you might accidentally press the adjacent one. The older one had a curve design
It feels like AMD is throwing mobile users under the bus tbh, I have a Ryzen 5 3550H and while it's pretty good you can't even undervolt or do anything to it. Ryzen Master doesn't work on mobile CPUs, there's no apps a la Throttlestop/Intel XTU and the only way you could do anything to it is with a third-party community-made app like Ryzen Controller, and you still can't undervolt it.
If you have a bigger than 100wh battery in most cases you have to tell the airline so they know. For most airlines they limit to a maximum of 3 batteries, but emirates for example has no limit for over 100wh batteries. The absolute limit is 160wh actually where no airline will allow a battery bigger than that
It was already unscrewed and removed. He probably accidentally pushed the clips back in and didn't realize it until he was pulling and needed a little more strength that he was ready for. Laptops these days require a lot of force for panel removal and I don't know why.
When I first saw this on Amazon, I thought it was a generic 5 lbs 2 hrs battery life gaming laptop. Then I saw Dave's video and realize how underrated a good laptop could be
Cheers for that tip. I looked up XMG prices. Am I correct that the US model is actually about 400€ cheaper when choosing the big GPU, 500GB of storage and 16GB of ram than the European XMG model? Because then the low price argument just falls completely of. 🤦🏻♂️
For sure, this are Clevo, XMG (now Bestware) in Germany will sell this in QWERTZ for sure and they usually give even options to set the keyboard whichever layout you need
Idk about other countries but in my country we have thing called shipzee that ships from us to to lithuania for good prices, got my speaker that was priced 39.99 usd for 52 euro to my door, headset that was worth 100 usd for 125 euro try checking it
@@SilkroadAllDay good idea with small things, but a laptop like this.. you would want to have support and warranty for that amount of money so it would be nice to buy it in Europe to avoid problems
I checked the price on Amazon, and I noticed that the price difference between the 1660ti and the 2070 model is only $300. For same 16/512 configuration you pay 1499 and 1799 for them. Usually you spend $500-600 jump form 1660ti to 2070. The price on the 2070 is so good that made the 1660ti model looks overpriced.
I dont think same way. Check the comparation in notebook check. Dont forget, it is not 2070, it is 2070 Max-q and overal performance is almost same Check this www.notebookcheck.net/GeForce-RTX-2070-Max-Q-vs-GeForce-GTX-1660-Ti-Laptop-vs-GeForce-RTX-2060-Max-Q_9611_9641_9631.247598.0.html
@@jed23ify it really depends on what you want. This laptop has it own place in the market. If you want big battery and also thin and light gaming machine, you need to pay some premium. I would say this laptop is pretty well priced for what it offers. Of course there is nothing wrong if you want to buy a good value.
Thanks for the review Dave. You are always so full of positive energy. The Mag-15 base model is $150 more than the Lenovo y740 which has a 1tb m.2 drive (not the slow 512mb intel 660p m.2 drive which is in the Mag-15), 2060 graphics, brighter screen, and has service centers in my country. The downside is the Lenovo has only 57wh battery, half that of the Mag-15 (it can be replaced with a 74wh one though), it's 1.5lb heavier when the massive power brick is included and has the special keys which mess up the keyboard. But for $150 price difference I can get the 74wh battery and a very decent Bluetooth speaker. I hope Lenovo takes some ideas from the mag-15 like magnesium alloy body, huge battery, and standard keyboard.
holy crap, this indeed looks totally awesome! glad to see the underdogs bringing the heat to the gaming laptop world, about time they got their act together and push the innovation foward :D
Just ordered an XPG Xenia and didn’t find any big youtuber review of it, it was surprising giving the great hardware it had on paper. After a couple days, this video was recommended by UA-cam and oh damn was I wrong about no youtubers reviewing it, only not the XPG version but these ones from Eluktronics, XMG, Aftershock, etc.
@@corentin2638 hmm, but own or disown did stress tests and came up at high 60s and low 70s and dave's test with a game running is high 50s low 60s That makes sense since the game isnt going to push it as hard as the stress test
@@strawdemindset nah Bob was hitting 80s and 90s after 2 hours or Apex. Dave just runs a 5 minutes benchmark and calls it a day. The thermals aren't bad, but they're average, not the amazing thing sold here.
Very nice to see you giving Eluktronics their well deserved rep. I picked up the Eluktronics-Pro-X-P650HS-G Gamers-Laptop a while ago, and I'm loving every moment of it. Freaking amazing experiences gaming on it. 10/10 would recommend Eluktronics any day - which btw was recommended to me by the helpful folks at reddit /r/suggestalaptop
The "plastic tab"' is to allow the wifi signal through the magnesium alloy chassis. My machine arrived just last week. The keyboard is AWESOME. It feels great, my unit has almost zero "play" on each key cap. Typing actually feels amazing. The overall build quality is solid as a rock, far more premium than is apparant in this video. I was very pleasantly surprised. There are some recurring speaker driver issues, that sneak in with each new Windows update. These are usually easily resolved fairly simply, he is right the speakers are clear but aren't loud.
@@abcdnnbc3067 I'm in Australia so my version is from Aftershock. But it is the same machine just with a differ type sticker (which thankfully peels off).
I wish they would have sent it to a reviewer that would actually put it through proper tests and not only do a flashy overview like dave does. I like dave, but he doesnt actually do reviews. Im willing to bet his unit had liquid metal. Something just seems off with the thermals. I wish we had more on this laptop as i am very interested in it.
I've been seriously thinking about picking up this laptop, out of the research I've done just like all previous Eluktronic laptops you want to purchase them on the website for best thermal performance because you can upgrade the thermal paste on their website which is most likely what Dave has in this review unit. You also get a Dbrand skin of choice which I'm not sure is included with the Amazon model.
No offense Dave, but your thermal performance results are not realistic. Try running Forza Horizon 4 benchmark then show max temps. This is the game that actually uses all cores on CPU equally. You don't even have to buy game, the free demo has benchmark in it.
Psychologie-lernen .de it’s really expensive, especially the 2070 version. No sales or discounts from what I can tell, considering the laptop hasn’t even launched yet.
Currently you can get this exact same laptop renamed under the CyberPowerPC brand (The Tracer III Evo 15). The 1660ti variant comes in at less than $1000.
I'm a big fan of the XPS 15 line, but the thermals mean I'll probably look at this when I replace my 9560 next year. Wish it had thunderbolt charging -- I have my laptops docked 75% of the time.
I bought a XPS 9560 but it had video software glitches which Dell couldn't fix remotely (Pro Support), multiple times. They offered a replacement but that would've meant no laptop for Uni which was not an option. So, I had to make a second purchase. The second one finally arrived and it was USED, with a DIRTY palmrest, USED CORD, and a BENT SCREEN (it bowed in the middle). Someone had clearly used and abused it and I couldn't believe that Dell would send me something like this as a whole separate purchase. Of course, then I had to prove all of that, so sent photos, etc, and waited for THEIR decision. By now I'm over five grand out of pocket and still using the first faulty laptop. They offer a replacement for the second purchase and guess what, it has the same software glitches as the first and again (!!) a bowed screen. AGAIN, I had to prove it with pics and multiple emails. I was so disgusted! In the end I got a full refund but the whole process was pathetic. I spoke to so many people until I was offered a refund. CUT TO: Last December. A few months had passed and the bad taste had worn off a bit. So, I decided to buy a XPS 9570 and give those blowhards another chance (because I love the look and feel of the XPS) - if only they could send me one that worked!). Well, all was fine until three months later when the speakers malfunctioned (I was getting a tinny/ broken type sound). Several remote sessions later, I had new issues, malfunctioning fingerprint sensor, video software glitche AGAIN (this time a pale brown pixelated split screen effect as opposed to the random red and green pixels the previous time), and some other problems. After many more remote sessions than last year, they refused to offer a replacement, citing the next one would "probably have a problem". LOL! In other words, they were blaming me for the issues their laptops had. The previous incident had already been stressing me out which made Uni all the more stressful and yet again the same thing was happening. They were convinced the speaker failure was software related but every attempt to fix it (by them) was a BIG FAIL. It took months until they offered a refund but NO REPLACEMENT, which is probably for the best! By this stage I had spoken to at least twenty to thirty people and had to wait weeks for them to offer a fair outcome. Oh, by the way, they offered to replace the speakers in house with refurbished speakers. YEAH, that's what I paid thousands for. This whole saga has been affecting my studies because as any of you know, who are doing a major degree, studies are stressful enough. It's amazing I have a H2 average but I've had to take leave because of all the headaches. If I counted every email and phone call, I would say there were between one and two hundred interactions all up. Also, I was called by an individual who said she would be my last port of call. But nope, I spoke to at least ten people after her. What a joke. Dell's customer service is truly a disgrace (apart from the kind reps I spoke to, who did try to help), but the unseen higher employees calling the shots really make me want to PUKE!
I’d be interested in understanding what exactly makes this laptop thermally better than others because based on the internal cooling setup it doesn’t look any different than other gaming laptops.
If you're still watching this in 2021 - I have just bought one of these laptops (XMG Fusion 15). I was really worried about the keyboard based on Dave2D's review, but it's one of my favourite things about this laptop actually. I really like clicky keys, the sound, the feedback, this is the first time I had anything similar on a laptop. And I have no issues with missing keys whatsoever blind typing - mind you, I'm an experienced and good typer.
That's crazy, it's light yet could take some really mean heat... The moment i saw those thick heatpipes configuration, i knew that this thing would have a really great thermal performance...
Watching this on my Alienware 14. A laptop Ive been using 6/7 days a week 8-12+ hours at work since 2014 and it’s performed flawlessly. All I want is a touch bigger screen with higher frames and refresh. This is the first review that’s piqued my interest 👍🏼👍🏼
@What Dang bro I wish I wasn't suckered into buying Dell I just read on their website at how awesome cool their lapped up is nice for key screen nice bezels 6 cores and GTX1050T Dam it it throttles Lake a mofo 1600 freakin dollarsDell should be ashamed of themselvesTrying to copy AppleWithout actually making the product well enough
I have always loved Dave's content! Specially about computing hardware and gadget. Honestly I didn't like the cellphone content as much as the laptops may be because he just dives into the laptop. Your videos are so clean and sophisticated they make me wanna get everything (if only I could run :p studies and tution always comes in way) but wish there would be giveaways :) Wish you all the luck for future as well buddy.
Yeah i think so, perhaps it will, if you live in singapore, you can check aftershock, and if u live in malaysia, u can check illegear, bcs eluktronics and all the brand have same source of chasis. Maybe just wait like a month or 2, before they announced their new products
quite probable since this looks like the new iteration of last year tongfang chassis, which has exactly the same cooling system and design with few upgrades here and there
Shoutout to Eluktronics, they have awesome products and better customer service! THANK YOU for going into more detail with this review, we want more of that, Dave!
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I dunno HOW they did it. But they did. Intel just dropped some serious hardware. Thanks for watching!
Isn't there anything better than 9750H for laptops now? Excluding the X and XE series.
I love your reviews
Dave Lee I would like to review tech in Ghana. Can you assist me?
You are 👍💯best
Bro love your vids
Tks for the info
We really appreciate your review and honest feedback as always Dave!
Just one thing to note:
That little plastic section you mentioned on each side is actually the location of the WiFi 6 antennae. Magnesium alloy would cause interference of the wireless radio otherwise.
Thank you!
Ship to UK my friend, I will pay for the stupid UK electronic tax.
Nice laptop, Will it be available in Europe?
Nice explanation, this should be stickied!
We gotta get this comment up higher!
Ship inside of Europe please!!!
At least you won't pay for the branding with this laptop
Rose will win MIP this year.
@Adriel R Apple, Razer, Dell, ALIENWARE
@@GunsAndRoses871 Yessir !!
@@z4m0 cant wait to see him play for my Pistons.....hopefully he gets the starting spot over Jackson even though we'll be lucky to even make the 8th seed lol.
the rtx 2070 model starts at 1800$ lol
> 1.8 kg almost ultrabook weight
> gtx 2070 max q
> 7 hours of battery life
> 144hz display
> absurd thermals
> really pretty
This is a slap to the face of the bigger brands.
But the razer blade 15 is looking way better and that's what many people look for so this won't be the choice for editor's or people like that whats kinda sad. More weight would be ok for me for a cleaner and more quality kinda look. I am a gamer and music producer and i want to have both but the blade 15 still is my first choice just because it looks better. This laptop right here is more of a: I don't care how it looks, I will take it to the next hotel room, set it up and play thing. You wont rlly use it in public I think so I don't know but it's definitely a cool and very nice laptop.
Edit: If you want to say something, read every answer before you write something please. Maybe it's already answered :)
@@theodor872 What do you mean? This looks like a normal laptop, it's literally just a black laptop with a logo on it.
@@estebanbrugal5100 Yea and thats it. I actually think that it looks better then most other gaming laptops out there and the advantages of that laptop are incredible good. No doubt.
But if they would have made it more like a macbook kinda look and body it would get more attention I think. Like this many people prefer more heavy but also more high quality feeling laptops.
I just think they should have looked out for these people too with maybe an extra version of this laptop or smth like this.
I don't want to know how much attention it would get then.
It doesn't have absurd thermals, don't let Dave's inability to test stuff properly fool you. Everything else you stated is correct. Thermals are in the high 80s going to 90s and throttle back down. As for looks, looks just as nice as the black razer. If it came in a silver would look better.
@@creaturecore13 Idc about the thermals for now. I just say they are normal.
But it does not look like a razer blade. The razer blade just looks smoth and this one looks like a completely normal laptop. Its not looking high quality build or even better then any other laptop from the teachers in school (yea its not plastic but still doesn't look that good).
No fancy lighting , good keyboard , good internals , a wonderful Square design . All done . I would pick this over any other laptop on the market right now.
ViNaYaK BiJu the keyboard is rgb
@@alexeigreenbottle7793 Configure it white and it becomes simple backlighting.
Yeh, I dont get the whole RGB bullshit, it annoys me more than anything else, sadly this keyboard is RGB though.
I mean, the Lenovo Legion shares the same simplicity.
There's a light bar on the front
That plastic bit was never a speaker cutout, its for wifi and BT signals, laptops that have full metal body, such as my yoga c930 has similar plastic cutouts
Those antennae are often under/around the screen to avoid this issue. Apple mounts theirs under the hinge for the same reason.
@@philsburydoboy they actually clarified that is because of the antena , magnesium creates interference with the wifi so they had to use plastic otherwise
Magnesium... Very corrosive to other metals
@@cristianramos7343 Yup, I agree, I've seen their MAG 15 intro video on youtube.
@@blakeflakes1 nope, magnesium is the one which will be corroded first. Its is used as a protection for other metal in oil pipe.
When I got the money, I’m buying one RTX 2070 and 32gb ram it looks like it’ll be worth every cent. I’ll be able to finally run Solitaire with no issues
Above you got it yet? just wondering. it has been 7 months and would like to know if you like it if you do have it
Sven Anderson ended up getting an Alienware 17 r4 and that has been phenomenal. Would like to get something more portable though. Which would more than likely be this when I plan to upgrade
@@sanderson9162 +1
and were you able to run solitaire with no issues???
halalcakes • 23 years ago On my Alienware yes. Getting anywhere from 10-30 FPS max graphics thermals throttling like crazy.
The IMPOSSIBLE gaming laptop.
100% laptop.
0% beef.
The IMPOSSIBLE gaming laptop.
100% beef
0% laptop
@@Connor-re3rg what games this 5:00
lol
@Musketeer Oliver oooo r woos yu dont get de jok
@Musketeer Oliver which one is it?.
MSI, Asus, Dell, Razer: can't design Intel laptops that don't overheat
Intel: Fine, I'll do this myself
My Asus with a 8750h runs cool with no issues.
What , I emailed their customer service, they said it was Intel who designed this product, but I tend to believe what you said.
@What all of eluktronics and other barebones brands like sager use clevo or tongfang chassis but I did my research on this and it seems like this model is definitely designed by intel 🤔 i wonder what setup eluktronics have with intel regarding eluktoboost
Im guessing you didn't see his review on the Zephryus S
Republic of gamers laptops dont overheat
Dave:This is the perfect laptop!
We:Yesss
Dave:But!
We:Fuckkk
The only but here was the keyboard, and tbh, it will not be a deal-breaker for me, and besides, I think it'll be good if you get used to it.
This comment deserves more likes
Just buy an external keyboard. Will be much better for gaming
A laptop without some flashy ass "I AM GAMING LAPTOP" looks? I'm definitely sold.
Well, Gigabyte Aero is quite "normal"
For me it still looks too much like a gaming notebook. The big logo, the crazy skin(s), the colorful keyboard... Imagine you sit with this laptop in business meeting. Would you really feel confident with it?
@@bjorn4703 the skin is sold by another company and totally avoidable, the keyboard colors can be customized, as it's totally RGB...it's a very plain laptop, no "business" issues
It still got that ugly ass font and branding tho. Ah, also more Thunderbolt could be better, i prefer more high bandwidth and universal ports than more legacy ports.
@@bjorn4703 you gotta admit though that it looks way less over the top than other game laptops
Holy shit. Dave has seen tons of laptops. Bad ones, good ones, and everything in between. If you somehow manage to impress Dave with thermals, then you did something amazing
dave doesn't know anything about thermals lol, that's like the one area where he is unreliable. See the alienware m15 video for reference
Eh, it’s an obvious ad. Everything on UA-cam is these days.
I own an Asus Zephyrus, with amazing reviews all across the internet and I can tell you this generation of gaming laptops is fucked up, the 8th or 9th Intel generation cpus are way too hot for gaming in these chassis (at least with the 1070 I have). Don't get me wrong, you can play and play with smooth and high FPS but at the cost of unholy fan noise and throttling for many games. Yes, you can downvolt and install liquid metal but that will just improve the situation a little bit, I think the technology is not good enough yet to achieve proper gaming experience, at least in my opinion.
Maybe this is the first laptop that does not throttle a lot but as previously said, Dave is not reliable in the thermals, the Alienware is a great example or also the very same Zephyrus I own, he runs a simple benchmark once and maybe he is in a 20ºC room, which is not realistic for many people.
@@corentin2638 What are you talking about? He got Apple, a trillion dollar company to its knees when he reported the shitty thermals on the new Mac.
@@shivkokroo6180 exaggerating much ?
Oh look, they have an open mesh over both the fans.
Meanwhile, Asus engineers: put tiny holes and choke the fans.
Is it impossible if it exists?
*existential crisis*
Ba dum tssssssssssss
Crysis*
Exist if you think it exist . If you don't think it doesn't exist. Think about this for an hour then you will gain a real headache 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🙄
awnsering your question, it will run Existencial Crysis, but i dont think Imaginairy Crysis will get 30 fps even on Low.
@@r3df0x41 it's actually crisis and not crysis(coz it's a game). Unless you were joking ofcourse.
2:29 I haven't seen a 3.5 mic jack in so long
I haven’t seen that in years meme
>7 hours
>gaming laptop
Whom do I throw my money at?
Eluktronics
@@TabalugaDragon im not and this laptop is obviously better than those you mentioned
@@TabalugaDragon i see your point, i am eagerly waiting for other reviews on this laptop
@@TabalugaDragon the Aero costs much more than this though. If other reviewers confirm what has been said here, we're in for a good time.
@@TabalugaDragon XMG is the brand selling it in Europe.
Who still watches Dave2D but still doesn't have a gaming laptop? Or is it just me?
it's not just you.....
there also me
Well I'm waiting to buy one around Christmas ( I want it to run cyberpunk 2077 really well
@@darkstarshellby3435 good for you.
as for me, well i'm waiting till i can get my sh*t back together and fix my life.
i want to be able to play games without constantly worrying about my failures
@@peacewalker3344 bit of the same story here since January I'm fixing my life. It will come my friend keep it up 😁
I only have gpd pocket 1 as my laptop
I swear i've never seen dave smile while taking about the thermal.
Okay, as someone who's tired of the gamer-ey design that is super outlandish, I'm in love with this design aesthetic. Simple, understated, no weird cut off corners or angled shapes, and a nice thin bezel. The only thing I'm not a super-fan of is the keyboard. A more generic design would be perfect to me, because it would match the rest of the laptop a bit better.
As far as the magnesium alloy frame goes, I wish all laptops in this price range were built to this standard. Plastic laptops feel in many cases like they're engineered to fail at the hinges and other weak points.
Remember when Apple made an all TITANIUM MacBook Pro? Good times.
Eh, I'd still like *some* pizazz in a gaming laptop personally. This to me looks "understyled."
Other than that this laptop is seriously impressive.
Plastic is fine as long as the price is right. The problem comes when manufacturers try to cut too much cost, and the frame gets too bendy.
For the keyboard I mean you can always turn off the RGB or set it to 1 color. I think the keyboard is as generic as it gets really. My problem is that fucking eluktronics logo on top of the keyboard. If this exact laptop was made by razer with same design, specs and price, I would have bought it by now.
Look up----> big picture project . net←---read “the Present”. What it says can turn this world right side up from the very beginning of it. It is all truth you can check for yourself. I def would recommend.
Just to prove you don’t need the Name Brand. They aren’t *all* premium.
cough cough *apple* cough
It was developed by Intel, that's the most name brand a computer could be.
Jarib nvidia or amd is equally mainbraindy
@@user-vi7hd6sf9q No, intel far outpasses Nvidia and AMD in terms of how well known they are and how much they are worth as a company.
as far as I know razer is actually one of the shittiest laptop makers. lots of RMAs. High prices.
Has anyone ever noticed how Dave uses hand gestures 0:52 to add an extra touch of coolness to and distinctiveness to his videos?
Nicely done Dave
"Let's build a great laptop"
"What kinda keyboard should it have?"
"A mechanical keyboard, because they never suck on laptops, duh"
last year model had it too, minus the issue this one has, I am using mech17
@@khoonibilla what issue?
Alienware and msi had great mechanical keyboards on their laptops
@@earlj3638 The one dave complained about, that the keys dont have a proper border and you might accidentally press the adjacent one. The older one had a curve design
Suddenly Intel actually tries a LITTLE and this happens. Now you know how lazy all laptop OEMs actually are.
Kristoffer Johnsen a little? Intel is moving all its power to the laptop market because it admitted its defeat against AMD in the desktop market.
@@NawrasEpicDuel Didn't think about looking at it that way 😂
Nawras EpicDuel I agree with you. Intel is pulling out the few big guns they still have.
@@NawrasEpicDuel Ahhh, the wonders of competition.
It feels like AMD is throwing mobile users under the bus tbh, I have a Ryzen 5 3550H and while it's pretty good you can't even undervolt or do anything to it. Ryzen Master doesn't work on mobile CPUs, there's no apps a la Throttlestop/Intel XTU and the only way you could do anything to it is with a third-party community-made app like Ryzen Controller, and you still can't undervolt it.
I'm a bit disappointed in the lack of thorough temp testing. It's one of the main reasons I come to this channel.
I show a good first glimpse of temps on my channel
@@OWNORDISOWN the reason I don't watch your channel is your profile picture
@@lotuskshetri7832 my profile picture? How daft is that ! No worries, I have plenty more people watching my channel.
@@OWNORDISOWN oh yes of course plenty of viewers
Lotus Kshetri bruh it’s a damn profile picture that makes so sense
The smile on Dave's face when he started talking about the thermal.
6:02
Finally a best gaming laptop, everything a gamer needs is installed in it... loved the specs gonna definitely save money for this.
If you have a bigger than 100wh battery in most cases you have to tell the airline so they know. For most airlines they limit to a maximum of 3 batteries, but emirates for example has no limit for over 100wh batteries. The absolute limit is 160wh actually where no airline will allow a battery bigger than that
The way he ripped that back panel off was so reckless, my heart stopped for a minute
It was already unscrewed and removed. He probably accidentally pushed the clips back in and didn't realize it until he was pulling and needed a little more strength that he was ready for. Laptops these days require a lot of force for panel removal and I don't know why.
When I first saw this on Amazon, I thought it was a generic 5 lbs 2 hrs battery life gaming laptop. Then I saw Dave's video and realize how underrated a good laptop could be
why?
At 11 Pm: I need to sleep
UA-cam: Eyy bro we have a sleeper gaming laptop
Me : Oh shit, here we go again
its ah sh*t here we go again
Hey Dave! Plz use it as ur primary device and make a full review video. ✌🏻
Dave - 7:08 "I don't want to over-sell this product"
Also Dave - "tHe iMpoSsiBLe gAMinG laPtOp"
Edit: 200 likes damn thx everyone
Dave is evidently pleased with this laptop but he want to maintain a professional behaviour in his video, kudos to Dave.
stfu with the like edits
The design is amazing, clean and utilitarian. I don't now that I have ever seen a better laptop for the price😍
I completely agree. I absolutely hate that "gamer" aesthetic and would much rather prefer something that has the dimensions of a macbook or dell xps
"i guess" the plastic thing is for antenna!
good guess
What a machinnneee! 3 usb-A's, 144hz ips, 96%rgb, top webcam, full sized SD slot, huge battery, 4.1lbs, & great cooling.
HDMI? Ethernet?
@@MatisseRAdar
Ports: 1 Thunderbolt 3 Port, 1 HDMI x 2.0, 1 USB 3.1 (Gen 2), 2 USB 3.1 (Gen 1), 4-In-1 Card Reader, Gigabit Ethernet RJ45, Audio out & Mic In, Kensington Lock slot
@@MatisseRAdar dongle life! We can't ask anything more than this
@@MatisseRAdar No display port, really? Sad to see ..
XMG Fusion is the European variant of this... Just in case someone wonders. 🤓
Cheers for that tip. I looked up XMG prices. Am I correct that the US model is actually about 400€ cheaper when choosing the big GPU, 500GB of storage and 16GB of ram than the European XMG model? Because then the low price argument just falls completely of. 🤦🏻♂️
GPU is different, isn´t it?
@@aenemalateralis Nope it's the same GPU options :)
@@Ripzone91 As far as I know...the US Amazon site don´t include VAT (tax). It's common in the states.
How do we get the elucktronics one in the uk , cause the xmg is a lot more in terms of cost
I hope it's gonna be available in EU as well with other keyboard layouts (Nordic in my case)
Amen
For sure, this are Clevo, XMG (now Bestware) in Germany will sell this in QWERTZ for sure and they usually give even options to set the keyboard whichever layout you need
@@oscarbarrios yeah XMG basically confirmed they were selling it, it comes out in 15 days.
www.xmg.gg/en/the-new-xmg/
Nobody tried to order in us via myus.com ?? Feedback looks good...
Yes, oh yes thank God i have been so so bored.. you are my saver!
Yep just yep
Saviour*
@@lant7 Always 1. You know what he meant, but alas you must show that you are on a soap box to correct him....pathetic.
@@jagsfanrick he's just trying to be helpful lol
guys don't fight... it's alright i know my English not perfect but i don't care.. after all you understand me ♥️
*Looks at thumbnail*
So that's what is in the briefcase in Pulp Fiction.
Kayle Lang we good Vince?
This comment made my day.
Trumps nuts?!? 😂😂
Please do a review on Thinkpad X1 Extreme gen 2
🇳🇵 🇳🇵
Yes please
It's like everyone has just collectively decided to ignore that machine. I want a review too
@Amit Shan what was so wrong with ur unit?
@Amit Shan yeah, what was wrong with yours?
Finally Dave is satisfied with a laptop's thermal 😂😂
Dave is the Doug Demuro of laptop reviews.
Everything is detailed and up to point.
QUIrkS AND feaTUReS
Do you know of any suppliers of a version of this in EU?
yess also in asia or more particularly middle east ..
**sad non-us country noises**
@@osamatariq9134 same
Idk about other countries but in my country we have thing called shipzee that ships from us to to lithuania for good prices, got my speaker that was priced 39.99 usd for 52 euro to my door, headset that was worth 100 usd for 125 euro try checking it
@@SilkroadAllDay good idea with small things, but a laptop like this.. you would want to have support and warranty for that amount of money so it would be nice to buy it in Europe to avoid problems
I checked the price on Amazon, and I noticed that the price difference between the 1660ti and the 2070 model is only $300. For same 16/512 configuration you pay 1499 and 1799 for them. Usually you spend $500-600 jump form 1660ti to 2070. The price on the 2070 is so good that made the 1660ti model looks overpriced.
The 1660ti has a decent price. But you are right it makes the 2070 look much better comparatively
chang liu it’s overpriced when you can get a legion Y740 with 2070 max-Q and HDR 500 nit screen with better colors for $1500 at the moment.
@@jed23ify where?
I dont think same way. Check the comparation in notebook check. Dont forget, it is not 2070, it is 2070 Max-q and overal performance is almost same
Check this www.notebookcheck.net/GeForce-RTX-2070-Max-Q-vs-GeForce-GTX-1660-Ti-Laptop-vs-GeForce-RTX-2060-Max-Q_9611_9641_9631.247598.0.html
@@jed23ify it really depends on what you want. This laptop has it own place in the market. If you want big battery and also thin and light gaming machine, you need to pay some premium. I would say this laptop is pretty well priced for what it offers. Of course there is nothing wrong if you want to buy a good value.
When intel is talking about "the consumer"
Use it for Minecraft RTX
Next impossible laptop..
ITS MADE OF VIBRANIUM
Or adamantium
Uru metal if u want to summon it back
Groot
Drop the laptop to change it
Haven’t finished the video yet but I know it will be good keep it up
It's november and apparently this laptop is flying off shelves because of this very review. Have eluktronics show their gratitude?
Thanks for the review Dave. You are always so full of positive energy.
The Mag-15 base model is $150 more than the Lenovo y740 which has a 1tb m.2 drive (not the slow 512mb intel 660p m.2 drive which is in the Mag-15), 2060 graphics, brighter screen, and has service centers in my country.
The downside is the Lenovo has only 57wh battery, half that of the Mag-15 (it can be replaced with a 74wh one though), it's 1.5lb heavier when the massive power brick is included and has the special keys which mess up the keyboard.
But for $150 price difference I can get the 74wh battery and a very decent Bluetooth speaker.
I hope Lenovo takes some ideas from the mag-15 like magnesium alloy body, huge battery, and standard keyboard.
holy crap, this indeed looks totally awesome! glad to see the underdogs bringing the heat to the gaming laptop world, about time they got their act together and push the innovation foward :D
Just ordered an XPG Xenia and didn’t find any big youtuber review of it, it was surprising giving the great hardware it had on paper. After a couple days, this video was recommended by UA-cam and oh damn was I wrong about no youtubers reviewing it, only not the XPG version but these ones from Eluktronics, XMG, Aftershock, etc.
Make your thermal testing more comprehensive.
Or at least accurate, because nobody is getting the same results as him
@@corentin2638 who else apart from OwnorDisown have tested it
@@strawdemindset bob of all trades has not released his review yet but he already stated that his thermal results were the same as Ownordisown
@@corentin2638 hmm, but own or disown did stress tests and came up at high 60s and low 70s and dave's test with a game running is high 50s low 60s That makes sense since the game isnt going to push it as hard as the stress test
@@strawdemindset nah Bob was hitting 80s and 90s after 2 hours or Apex. Dave just runs a 5 minutes benchmark and calls it a day. The thermals aren't bad, but they're average, not the amazing thing sold here.
Other companies: makes gaming laptops that compromise on key features
Intel: _Fine, I'll do it myself_
Very nice to see you giving Eluktronics their well deserved rep.
I picked up the Eluktronics-Pro-X-P650HS-G Gamers-Laptop a while ago, and I'm loving every moment of it. Freaking amazing experiences gaming on it. 10/10 would recommend Eluktronics any day - which btw was recommended to me by the helpful folks at reddit /r/suggestalaptop
"Purchases made from store links may give me some money. It doesn't cost you extra, so please buy everything" Lmao I died
The "plastic tab"' is to allow the wifi signal through the magnesium alloy chassis.
My machine arrived just last week. The keyboard is AWESOME. It feels great, my unit has almost zero "play" on each key cap. Typing actually feels amazing. The overall build quality is solid as a rock, far more premium than is apparant in this video. I was very pleasantly surprised.
There are some recurring speaker driver issues, that sneak in with each new Windows update. These are usually easily resolved fairly simply, he is right the speakers are clear but aren't loud.
did you get the mag 15? or the tracer iii evo 15 200 rebrand?
@@abcdnnbc3067 I'm in Australia so my version is from Aftershock. But it is the same machine just with a differ type sticker (which thankfully peels off).
Very pleased to see the Eluktronics Mag 15 recognized here. Recently got the Covert Gamer MECH 15 G3, and it's a fantastic machine for the price.
I wish they would have sent it to a reviewer that would actually put it through proper tests and not only do a flashy overview like dave does. I like dave, but he doesnt actually do reviews. Im willing to bet his unit had liquid metal. Something just seems off with the thermals. I wish we had more on this laptop as i am very interested in it.
You should check out OwnOrDisown, he just put out a comparison video to the Y740.
creaturecore13 check out “Aftershock Vapor 15 review” the first one is buy an Australian guy goes into great detail comparing the diffrent models
This thing is $1500? That's amazing, the market needs this.
Razer, please reduce your prices
Ikr Razer and other companies like Alienware are so fucking overpriced I am so surprised people
1) Are able to buy them
2) Actually buy them.
I've been seriously thinking about picking up this laptop, out of the research I've done just like all previous Eluktronic laptops you want to purchase them on the website for best thermal performance because you can upgrade the thermal paste on their website which is most likely what Dave has in this review unit. You also get a Dbrand skin of choice which I'm not sure is included with the Amazon model.
That an enormous power brick for a thin and light laptop. I seen smaller power supply for cad laptops.
It has one of the biggest batteries, what do you expect. Plus 7 hour battery makes up for the fact that power brick.
Exactly what I thought ! It's ENORMOUS !
that's because he's using the 2070 model, people who buy it with the GTX1660ti will get a smaller brick
@@TabalugaDragon i'm just reporting what you see on customization websites.
@@corentin2638 thanks
1:18 OOH
1:25 OOOOOH
1:31 OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH
Turn off the keyboard rgs and now you have a Normal Laptop that can Game!
wow nice
Wish this was available in the UK ;,( - Looks like a great portable/powerful/thermally efficient laptop for designers
Would be perfect if it had a 4k color accurate screen for content creators!
That's the one thing I focused on and holding me back right now.
And maybe a quadro
maybe the competition would follow suit soon, so just wait.
That's mad thermals on a 9750h. I have mine undervolted by 120mv and I don't have that performance in game. And its a 17 inch gaming machine.
I've had one of there other products for about 2 years and still works like brand new. Honestly fantastic stuff these guys are putting out.
swear to God I thought this was like a MKBHD prank type of secret laptop.... The whole video I was waiting for the Bazinga...
You guys are dumb 😂
@@fenderdude64 a reference to this, you master mind:
ua-cam.com/video/VL9rd4NLXCo/v-deo.html
Amazon: In stock on September 13, 2019.
Sad. I was this close to buying it.
And I was going to buy you one for Christmas.
Not now, impatient Timmy.
@@trickyrat483 Hahaha
Shuo Yang
Two weeks aint that much right?!
just wait 2 weeks lol
Two days before my bday. Two day shipping. It is fated!
After having owned a macbook pro 2016 for some years, I could never go back to a laptop with bad speakers. Its just so essential.
No offense Dave, but your thermal performance results are not realistic. Try running Forza Horizon 4 benchmark then show max temps. This is the game that actually uses all cores on CPU equally. You don't even have to buy game, the free demo has benchmark in it.
I think some UA-camr did a talk on that
@@muhammadnorhanif Wasn't it you?
what? no.
just type mag 15
Try running robloc
Some ppl already got xboxs mehn
Just play krunker
For everybody who is wondering. The price is one 1500 dollars on Amazon..
For the 1660ti, more for the version he is reviewing
Can you post the link please?
Psychologie-lernen .de it’s really expensive, especially the 2070 version. No sales or discounts from what I can tell, considering the laptop hasn’t even launched yet.
Kurzgesagt + Dave Lee! Two of my favourite channels. =)
buying from their website includes an options for $35 to use liquid metal thermal paste
I’m a simple man: I see Dave uploads new video - I smash like
I think that am a simple man too xD.
Currently you can get this exact same laptop renamed under the CyberPowerPC brand (The Tracer III Evo 15). The 1660ti variant comes in at less than $1000.
Holy crud this is brand new no wonder I haven't seen this thing. Really making wanna upgrade right now
WTF I just got my XPS 15. I totally would have gone with this instead!
ouch
Return it
You need to return that xps15. I have been having so many issues with mine and it's only been 6 months
I'm a big fan of the XPS 15 line, but the thermals mean I'll probably look at this when I replace my 9560 next year. Wish it had thunderbolt charging -- I have my laptops docked 75% of the time.
I bought a XPS 9560 but it had video software glitches which Dell couldn't fix remotely (Pro Support), multiple times. They offered a replacement but that would've meant no laptop for Uni which was not an option. So, I had to make a second purchase. The second one finally arrived and it was USED, with a DIRTY palmrest, USED CORD, and a BENT SCREEN (it bowed in the middle). Someone had clearly used and abused it and I couldn't believe that Dell would send me something like this as a whole separate purchase. Of course, then I had to prove all of that, so sent photos, etc, and waited for THEIR decision. By now I'm over five grand out of pocket and still using the first faulty laptop. They offer a replacement for the second purchase and guess what, it has the same software glitches as the first and again (!!) a bowed screen. AGAIN, I had to prove it with pics and multiple emails. I was so disgusted! In the end I got a full refund but the whole process was pathetic. I spoke to so many people until I was offered a refund.
CUT TO: Last December. A few months had passed and the bad taste had worn off a bit. So, I decided to buy a XPS 9570 and give those blowhards another chance (because I love the look and feel of the XPS) - if only they could send me one that worked!). Well, all was fine until three months later when the speakers malfunctioned (I was getting a tinny/ broken type sound). Several remote sessions later, I had new issues, malfunctioning fingerprint sensor, video software glitche AGAIN (this time a pale brown pixelated split screen effect as opposed to the random red and green pixels the previous time), and some other problems. After many more remote sessions than last year, they refused to offer a replacement, citing the next one would "probably have a problem". LOL! In other words, they were blaming me for the issues their laptops had. The previous incident had already been stressing me out which made Uni all the more stressful and yet again the same thing was happening. They were convinced the speaker failure was software related but every attempt to fix it (by them) was a BIG FAIL. It took months until they offered a refund but NO REPLACEMENT, which is probably for the best! By this stage I had spoken to at least twenty to thirty people and had to wait weeks for them to offer a fair outcome. Oh, by the way, they offered to replace the speakers in house with refurbished speakers. YEAH, that's what I paid thousands for. This whole saga has been affecting my studies because as any of you know, who are doing a major degree, studies are stressful enough. It's amazing I have a H2 average but I've had to take leave because of all the headaches.
If I counted every email and phone call, I would say there were between one and two hundred interactions all up. Also, I was called by an individual who said she would be my last port of call. But nope, I spoke to at least ten people after her. What a joke.
Dell's customer service is truly a disgrace (apart from the kind reps I spoke to, who did try to help), but the unseen higher employees calling the shots really make me want to PUKE!
I’d be interested in understanding what exactly makes this laptop thermally better than others because based on the internal cooling setup it doesn’t look any different than other gaming laptops.
What other brands did Intel collaborate with?
Ya, I also wanted to know about that the other brands who have collaborated with Intel .
I would love to know
Juul and All-State
This is pretty cool! I'd go with this if there was a 17" sku :)
Great review!
15" is superior
If you're still watching this in 2021 - I have just bought one of these laptops (XMG Fusion 15). I was really worried about the keyboard based on Dave2D's review, but it's one of my favourite things about this laptop actually. I really like clicky keys, the sound, the feedback, this is the first time I had anything similar on a laptop. And I have no issues with missing keys whatsoever blind typing - mind you, I'm an experienced and good typer.
This model is from Qinghuatongfang, a chinese company. And the chinese branded version of this model is under $1000.
Where can I find that model?
@@TMANDAMAN same
Which model? But on taobao cannot see the 2070 model...they only have the 1660Ti as top one...
As I understand, there are other versions of this laptop from other vendors, but I couldn't find them. Some help pls =)
Psst, they are a secret!
Yeah, we need to know for those of us who doesn't live in the US.
I'm hoping metabox comes to the party, being down under in Australia.
Same here, would like to know other versions :)
"The New XPG"
That's crazy, it's light yet could take some really mean heat...
The moment i saw those thick heatpipes configuration, i knew that this thing would have a really great thermal performance...
Great and honest review like usual.
Just wondering will you be reviewing ASUS Scar III with RTX2070 in the future?
Magnesium Alloy is used in Formula 1 Engine and now for Laptop cool :D
Watching this on my Alienware 14. A laptop Ive been using 6/7 days a week 8-12+ hours at work since 2014 and it’s performed flawlessly. All I want is a touch bigger screen with higher frames and refresh. This is the first review that’s piqued my interest 👍🏼👍🏼
thats what should of been on the dell xps 15 ! especially!!!! that nice cooling solution LOOK AT THEM PIPES!
Serj Star Well new inspiron 15 uses magnesium if you want
*should have. Or should've if you feel like contracting. Sorry but not sorry
@What Dang bro I wish I wasn't suckered into buying Dell I just read on their website at how awesome cool their lapped up is nice for key screen nice bezels 6 cores and GTX1050T Dam it it throttles Lake a mofo 1600 freakin dollarsDell should be ashamed of themselvesTrying to copy AppleWithout actually making the product well enough
@What what do u care even what I say
I have been waiting for a laptop like this for a long time!
YOU NEED TO COVER MORE GAMING LAPTOPS COZ THERE IS LITERALLY LIKE NO OTHER QUALITY UA-camR
*question* wait, would this be a better gaming laptop and an even lighter one than the latest Razer Blade as well? 🤯
What are the other companies that Intel collaborated with? I can’t find any models.
XMG in Europe
Soon to be released, that is.
I have always loved Dave's content! Specially about computing hardware and gadget. Honestly I didn't like the cellphone content as much as the laptops may be because he just dives into the laptop. Your videos are so clean and sophisticated they make me wanna get everything (if only I could run :p studies and tution always comes in way) but wish there would be giveaways :)
Wish you all the luck for future as well buddy.
Dave Lee :Comes at a reasonable price $1500
Me :
soo, will it be available in asia? or atleast rebranded under some brand that actually sells in asia?
Yeah i think so, perhaps it will, if you live in singapore, you can check aftershock, and if u live in malaysia, u can check illegear, bcs eluktronics and all the brand have same source of chasis. Maybe just wait like a month or 2, before they announced their new products
hafiz razak thats nice, but i live in indonesia
And you know, import taxes sucks
@@AsySatya greedy government
aku baru beli selenite!!! huargh!!
quite probable since this looks like the new iteration of last year tongfang chassis, which has exactly the same cooling system and design with few upgrades here and there
Shoutout to Eluktronics, they have awesome products and better customer service! THANK YOU for going into more detail with this review, we want more of that, Dave!
XMG is one of the other brand the laptop call XMG fusion 15 ! Based in EU ✌🏻
Do you know approximate price of XMG fusion w/ 1660ti?
@@maticcavalleri8482 it releases tomorrow on their website but I think around 1500
@@maybe1846 I know. 1500 would be really good but I'm afraid it will be more... If it's 1500 I'm probably buying it.
Play the intro to Pacific Rim: “the world banded together, pooled their resources...” 😊
love the laptop skull wallpaper at 1:31 ...... any links to it?
I actually got it from someone else in the comments.
www.reddit.com/r/wallpapers/comments/aiz8d8/just_another_skull/
Looks like a "Tong Fang" rebrand laptop
Cause Mechanical keyboard is exactly like their older laptop, with the same issue.