The Secret Laptop Club
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- Опубліковано 8 жов 2020
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Who's already a member of the club? what do you use?
I'm part of the poor club 🤓
My dad's macbook pro 15 mid-2015
@@attiyt ayy✌🏼
Hi 👋
Not me
You just broke the first rule of secret laptop club..
You sound oddly like a soap seller
Ok boomer
He broke the second rule too dayum!
Is this his first night here?
I see what you did there
*looks at bank account*
Looks like the secret laptop club will be continue being a secret then
It is no long a secret laptop club if you say secret laptop club
ah, we meet again
Haven't seen you in a while
your comments are not funny
Yer mum gey
My wallet: All right, then. Keep your secrets.
"inexpensive" over 1k price tag. Ok then I see what kind of video this is.
Nice lotr reference
,,,,,,
just junk since the thing don't do well with dust.. nor that plug from the back don't do well with light laptop...
How much does it cost
I have had an eluktronics laptop for 3 years now. I was looking for a gaming laptop so I could take it with me while I had to travel for cancer treatments and a family friend recommended this brand to me. 3 years later the laptop and I are both alive and kicking.
Hell yeah brother, I’m glad your livin
Great to hear! Fight on!
How are you doing nowadays?
@@aknzortuk4027 doing good
@@doctorphosphorus5436 glad to hear!
"The 1st rule of laptop club is not to talk about the laptop club"
lol
Lmaoo
Dave calling his Discord subscribers "sweaty laptop nerds" never gets old
Subscribers?
“I don’t use these laptops”
-has a stack of 5 of these laptops
Hurts
He's just reviewing them
They are being borrowed
What needs to be pointed out is that: Even if performance betweek Eluktronics and Razer is only 5% on the same Spec, the price difference is basically 30-50% in comparison :)
exactly... not everyone has the kind of money Dave has for his tech... also, he is far too picky about looks... he cares more about looks more then he does performance, and definitely more than price. i get a lot of his viewers are similar, but it's still annoying.
@@William-Morey-Baker I think they look better than at least 90% of gaming laptops. And you barely ever look at the bottom vents
Exactly ..like who looks under? Because for the rest it’s cool enough ..not to futuristic not to ugly just kind of balanced and when you know how much you’ve paid your always going to like them...curios about the keyboard in very tented to buy one ..cutting edge specs with good screen for 1200€ in Europe ,with these money I buy an 1 year old asus with 4 gb old generation gpu and decent cpu only...
Thank you! I was about to comment this myself. I just got a maingear element 17 this month and currently still loving it
@@hereaioan3379 the keyboard is definitely different from most laptops but I got used to mine after a few hours of fairly heavy use. It definitely doesn't take "months" like Dave said. And im assuming he's switching over from something that is top of the line in all aspects
90% : valuable information
10% : sweat
Man unlike other tech youtubers who just babble about anything apart from the topic, this guy makes short and to the point videos
@@sreeharinair4240 ikr that's why i love him he's my favourite tech tuber
The only drawback his reviews of laptops are hardly useful to Indians cuz most of the models are not available in India....xd😥
@@aniketsaha1601I'm not Indian but Indian reviews are best source (somethimes the only source) for low to mid-tier gadgets
@@georgietorrance that's actually true all these review channels show 1000$ laptops seriously who buys that stuff.... I m good with a 600-700 bucks gaming lappy 🤷
Others youtubers : “fancy opening”, ....
Dave : “okay,.....”
Owh god, i like this guy hahha
yeah especially it's good for me using mobile data, fast and really good reviews
I say the same and all of a sudden i am a racist
@@khilarihemanshu7581 lmao what
I just realized, dave sounds like sykkuno with good communication and less anxiety
I can't unhear it
@@markaj_i can't stop hearing it dude after you say it gg
Hahaha
Lol!
These laptops are like the flagship killers of the laptop sector
they are quite expensive to be called flagship killers
Legion 5 is flagship killer imo. I bought a brilliant RTX 2060 laptop with NVMe SSD and 16GB RAM for 1000 bucks.
@@BlackParade01 can you send the link?
@@carmenvasquez2135 up
@@carmenvasquez2135 it was under 1000 bucks when I bought it, it's now more expensive though:
www.paradigit.nl/Lenovo-Legion-5-15IMH05H-81Y60092MH/80056647/product?channel_code=40&product_code=90942738&
“Don’t be swayed by sweat” love it
I appreciate how clean D2D's thumbnails are. They don't give me headaches.
Love this video. Very informative. I thought these laptops were just Clevos that have been rebranded. Might consider buying these the next time I need a gaming laptop.
I was gonna say, these look just like my clevo
I've been using one of those secret laptop club, and I love it! A desktop processor in a laptop, a very worth portable powerhouse.
You're doing a great job Dave keep it up.. and also surprise us by looking even more younger after 10 years. May you and your family stay fit👍
Great video. I spent months trying to find the right laptop for me and went for the XMG. I wanted great gaming on a budget and this gave me the best for my money. Not too concerned about keyboard and in my opinion the aesthetics are suitable for a work meeting which was my bare minimum.
Cheers for shedding your own light on these!
Clevo (the OEM of these keyboards) has an amazing business strategy. They simply let resellers focus on the high-risk work of business development, marketing, servicing. While they use that reach to negotiate with large vendors like Intel and nVidia to get the components in their devices for cheap
Such a reasonable and calm reviewer, so easy to listen to.
"don't get swayed by the sweat" make that a t shirt please Dave.
Dave, your videos are so clean. Very minimal cuts while you are one the screen talking which makes it feel more authentic. Simple and concise explanations. Definitely one of the best tech UA-camrs out there!
I ordered my XMG yesterday ! I am upgrading from a 2013 Lenovo. Quite a leap, very excited.
These genuinely look so nice. So sleek looking and minimalist with amazing specs. Chinese computer makers are the dark horse of the world
"Don't be swayed by the sweat." - Dave 2D
Me a sweaty laptop nerd: pshhhhh, dumb sweaty laptop nerds
Do you own one?
hehe same
I actually love the look of these brick-like laptops.
Im using a Metabox Alpha from 2014. They use Tong Fen bases and I can vouch for the cooling. While metabox choose decent enough specs, the cases have enormous fans, it keeps really cool, but its insanely loud. The looks are utilitarian but its fine if all you care about is longevity and performance.
Almost all of his videos start with an Ok or Alright 😂
Ikr
"*heavy breathing* alright..."
Instead of the old school "hey, dave 2d here" :(
You made me check his oldest videos. It's TRUE 😂😂👏👏
How i never noticed?!🤔
Ill take ok or alright over “what is going on” and then continues to plug their socials or someone that does UA-cam speak
I'm just surprised everytime I watch Dave because he doesn't have a written script and instead comes up with things to say on the spot which is something not everyone can do.👏👏
Thanks for making this video - really great to hear your take on these Tongfang lappies
I'm on the XMG FUSION 15 / Core i7 / 64 GB RAM + 2070 Max Q. After some time you'll get used to the keyboard completely. The fan noise is no problem for me. Love this laptop :)
hows the laptop now?
i love this review about those underrated laptop. Thank you so much for making such an honest review ^_^
Dave: *Vents everywhere*
Me: Hm, sounds like the imposter is gonna be happy
Hahahahah.. Among us
Yo why all my tasks fake??
RAM and HDD kinda sus
Great video, Dave. Keep up the good work. I used to be a part of the so called secret club, but I've returned two of those laptops already. In the USA those may be cheaper, but in Europe XMG is definitely not cheaper than other brands so the performance value is not that grand. Laptops are nice indeed, but small things here and there can make you hate them - mouse pad almost always rattles, fans are LOUD, temps are high coz usually those machines do provide more power, initial firmware problems can be quite serious. The chassis design that Dave mentioned about has not changed for several years now (get rid of that god damn nose cam, Tong fang!), keyboards also need some re-desining. Fortunately XMG are the kings of BIOS and software updates and user experience does get improved a bit over time. I'll give an example with the XMG Fusion 15 which I was so hyped about, but I ended up returning --> could not get used to the keyboard, fans were constantly on even on silent/eco mode, firmware issues, thunderbolt port failing. That's just me of course , lots of ppl like and keep Tong Fang laptops for a long time. I for one prefer the XMG Fusion 15 over the Asus Zephyrus 14, but in the long run ended up returning both machines, because of acoustics and temperatures. Cool looks and a bit more FPS is not everything and companies should finally realize that.
Totally appreciate the angle of this. These laptops are so uncommon from a mainstream perspective but have contain such a powerhouse of performance for a great price. And unless you go looking for them by name, you wont really find much on them in traditional comparison videos
It seems that off the cuff they are great buys IF you are willing or open to compromise sound dB in fan noise OR the seemingly wonky keyboard mechanics/layout.
After months of scoping out the Eluktronics laptops, i stumbled upon the Gigabyte Aero 15 OLED and that will be my next workhorse as its more in line with what I'd use it for in the day-to-day with the mild gaming side. Not a fan of the nose-cam, but I'll have the laptop mounted on an articulating arm equipped with both a dedicated mouse/keyboard. So really when im mobile will those things be a remote inconvenience to navigate. and even then, I'm still not worries about it.
Thanks for the vid
this is the kinda laptops we want, we people to know.
Clevo : Joke I Am To YOu!?
Everyone: si
clevo isn't chinese 😉
@@abdullaalzayani6018 its 藍天電腦 taiwan OEM manufacturer, aka the real Chinese.(non "communist")
@@xenonphilius2366 Have great respect for ROC and for their democracy and prosperity.
That's why I like your perspective and viewpoint regarding any product!
I got the SEA version of the MAG 15 thanks to your other video. Really wanna say thank you so much for the review cause I love thie machine when I first got it an it is one hell of a machine :D
i just noticed, he has the youtube "lofi for studying/relaxing/coffee break/bomb defusing beats" at the end
The price to value ratio you're getting with these laptops is pretty great imo. Just even having the peace of mind in knowing you stretched your dollar as far as it can go is what sets these apart from the rest. I'm not loaded with cash by any means but if I wanna spend my hard earned money on a laptop then I'm definitely going with this. Serves me no purpose as a consumer to pay more money and knowing some of that is going to advertising where there is 0 value in return for the product I'm getting.
But to each they're own. Just sharing where my priorities are at.
There are too many confounding variables for that to be true. You have no idea how much is spent on what and how efficient the expenditure is. Besides, some people don't value performance over size, weight, noise, speakers, keyboard and other things. I am one of those people.
@@LukeGeoDude while that might be true that I don't know how they spend the money, the fact that I don't see ads online from them is enough evidence to assume the likely scenario that they don't spend or do very little expenditure on advertising.
The latter part of your statement I have no qualms with because that's personal preference.
I have an Aftershock Vapor 15 pro (Australian mag-15). Its got a great minimalistic design aesthetic (unlike some of the other designs that have many holes). Amazing performance, light, battery time is excellent, it never gets hot and was a fraction of the price of others. I also debadged the lid to make it an even cleaner asthetic again. Couldn't be happier.
I just recently discovered your channel and I really like the style of the videos.
Me: Has no money to buy any of these laptops.
Me: still watches video
Me: starts reading your comment
Me after reading your comment: this comment wasn't funny
@@krislimberg255
Me:Starts reading your comment
Me after reading your comment: YoUr sO EdGy
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I'm a member of the broke club, anybody else?
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Broke club is another area where tongfang shines tho the motile performance 141 I have is tongfang from a Walmart brand and it was only 250 dollars for a modern ryzen 3 cpu and 4 gigs of ram with an extra slot to upgrade ram and an extra m.2 slot for a second SSD
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Nice take on this laptops ! Great video Dave!
WOW! Can’t believe you covered this. AWESOME!
XMG user here. Another advantage might be the customer service of these smaller brands; as far as I know XMG has one of the best. When my SSD failed within the warranty they sent me a new one (with an even bigger storage capacity) to swap it myself - fast and clean, I loved it!
I think it would have been really helpful to include the prices next to each device when comparing fan noise and fps. You said you prefer the razer because performance is close enough that aesthetics wins out, but how much more are you paying for that design?
Agreed 💯
nailed it
Agreed, thousand dollar more for aesthetic, i dont have that kind of money 😂
@@ivantan8877 the difference between the razer he showed and the tongfang was around 900 dollars if I remember correctly
I don't think dave cares THAT much about price
Good review and suggestions. Another thing that’s important that no one ever really talks about on UA-cam is their support process. What happens if you get a bad one and need an exchange or warranty replacement? With my Alienware they sent someone to my house. When the tech agreed that it couldn’t be fixed, they sent me a new one which I received 3 days later. Then I sent mine back. Didn’t have to send mine in until after receiving the replacemen which I believe is critical for busy people who don’t have time to be without their machine and for people who aren’t techy and don’t want to spend hours on the phone trying to explain a problem they don’t fully understand. No UA-cam reviewer talks about the support system with the machines they review that I’ve seen. I received my replacement even though I opted for just the normal support plan not their upgraded plan. So yeah I know I’m paying more and I my performance might not be off the charts, but I know if something goes wrong I’m covered and covered quickly.
wow.. not in my mind that dave2d will do a video on this. i used the illegear from malaysia and so far, the perfomance is the best. glad that you actually showed the website..
I'm on the XMG Fusion 15 and I love it
I've just received the european variant of the mechrevo code 01, and it is an amazing laptop. Absolutely recommend it to laptop enthusiast who are looking for a light workstation, with a 90 wh battery, a 100% rgb display an a ryzen 4000H that performs crazy well.
I'm so impressed Dave does this in ONE go.. like that's really difficult!!
Excellent framing in the intro ti capture that underground group of enthusiasts who make these kind of recommendations
One thing you forgot to mention, which is a huge deal for many people that use these, is the large port selection.
2 to 4 USB-A's, USB-C, SD cardslot (which is rare these days), dedicated head- and microphone jacks, and some even have an ethernet port.
Many _'premium brand'_ laptops have very few if any ports these days, and if you use your laptop on the go a lot then dongles are basically a no-go.
Hey Dave, I am a big fan of your channel and I need your assistance, could i get any of your old laptops you aren't using?
I actually have one of these Tongfang laptops from when Walmart's OP gaming brand dropped out and it was $1k for SOO much. Love this beast
"Don't be swayed by the sweat"
- Dave Lee
"Don't be swayed by the sweat"
Best quote I ever heard in long while
I have one of those from a couple of months, coming from 2 asus rog of 2000 euros that always have defect (2 motherboard and battery fault last one, display 3 times first one). I choose to change and give a shoot buying the equivalent of max 17 here in europe (pcs vyper 17) and oh boy i love it. Design is just awesome, seems like a business laptop, magnesium feel sturdy, much more rigid than any other laptop i had before, glass touchpad, good screen (on par with my older rogs), but 4 things are to say that you dave lost here. My laptop has mux switcher, i can be fully nvidia or even fully intel gpu, and that's the biggest thing, it have big performance hit in games, and it have big performance hit in battery life (in integrate gpu mode i cover 9 hours with browsing and office, NINE, with that 92wh battery, is like having a different type of machine). Then go back home and enable again optimus (6 hours of battery life with the same use) or nvidia only gpu mode (allows better performance, dsr, fast sync and many other things that you can have only when display is connect ed to nvidia). Even the keyboard is good one, key actuation is precise (much more than rogs that are a bit mushy) but as you said need some weeks to type good cause keys are a bit too narrow one from another, and lacks nkey rollover (the real problem is this, not the way to have to adapt to key size and space). But for the rest in every aspect this laptop is a beast, is reliable (right asus? when you will be reliable in time?), no sw problem, my 10875h pushes out 4200 points on r20 compared to 3500 3600 of msi and other razer laptops, and 2070 super 115w is a real deal. All of this for what price? 1800 euros, basically HALF the price of a less performant (and less reliable i will say) razer or msi gs/zephyrus series. You will loose something in the switch for them? For my actual experience absolutly not, having one of those you understand how are detailed every single aspect of those pc, from the heatsink layout, to every other aspects of the case (and perforated bottom cover and side cover is just a big pro compared to closed ones... If you remember that recently for example asus was accused to fall back in performance many laptops cause of closed vents).
Good quick comparison and honest review 👍
Can you please do a best gaming laptops of 2020 video!
I'm so indecisive and I've been looking for a thin and light laptop for over 5 years now but I keep holding out so I could get the holy grail of laptops!
I don't trust anyone's word but yours, I cant wait!!
"Don't be swayed by the sweat."
-Dave Lee 2020
Please make a new recommendation list for laptops for creatives!
man, your sound quality is just out of this world, if you wouldn't mind me asking what equipment are you using, for the sound specifically?
Tong Fang is a brand name coming out of Tsing Hua University associated businesses. In China, it's called Tsing Hua Tong Fang. It's quite a reputable brand name in China. Until this video, I do not know they work with these "boutique" brand names to create these "secret club". Anyway, if you search on Chinese online stores, you can find similar spec machines that's half price of a Razer Blade Pro.
For me (live in HK), I would probably NOT go for it because of the support issues that may arise. I'd also have a big question mark on the Chinese - US arguments that may impact US software (Windows) running on Chinese hardware although, on the surface, it should be ok.
Didn't know it was a secret. Eluktronics has some of the nicest panels, that's why I got one a couple years ago. I think you reviewed the 15" version Dave.
Yeah, I've got one of these! The Apex 15, with the 3950x!
Bought a Mag-15 from your review, still love it now
I'm finna buy the Eluktronics RP-15 for my architecture classes and I'm hella hyped after seeing all these reviews. The build quality worries me because I'm gonna need this for the next 4 years but I figure if I take good care of it, then it won't be an issue.
Illegear is most common in SEA countries like Malaysia, since I'm using the Ionic Series.
How everyone starts: Hey guys,
How dave2d starts: OKAY.
Typing on my Schenker Via 15, which is a thin and lite notebook from XMG's office brand. It has the keyboard with the single cutout and flat switches.
It's THE BEST keyboard i've used on a laptop so far.
Also this particular device looks astonishing! Very Clean and Minimalistic
was looking for my next gaming laptop... looks like I found myself a club to go along with it.
I'm from Malaysia and I use the Asian variant of them, ILLEGEAR 1:29.
I'm not too sure about performance comparison because I've never had experiences on the well-known brands.
But games run smoothly on it, fan noise not too obnoxious and the price was probably about 1000 bucks.
I actually got drawn to these because of your earlier review on the MAG 15 "The Impossible Gaming Laptop". I have the Illegear Selenite Pro (which I think would have been the Mag 17) and it was one of the earliest 17in thin and light laptops to get the RTX2070 Max P variant at the tail end of last year.
I don't care too much about the design aesthetic aside from the ridiculously small size and weight (For a 17 inch), but the price point was what made it so attractive because they accepted a 2 year instalment plan where others only accept 1 year. The company also did make its own original custom 15in laptop that's only 1.5kg.
These laptops do have loud fan noise and soft speakers though and the 240hz screen isn't free from ghosting, and the nose cam is just tragic.
These laptops tend to be good for long term too. They can still even service an older, clevo-based laptop I bought in 2014.
Who cares about how much it weighs. Just go to the gym? What the fk.
@@user-dj7kc2li4c I have back pains from carrying heavy laptops alongside my other equipment and camera gear, and it's been progressively worse. This is not something that can be solved by going to a gym. I travel a lot. Laptop weight matters to me. I care.
@@thesidneychan I’m really trying to understand. Doesn’t your body adapt to the added load? I lift a lot and my backpack weighs around 9kgs and it doesn’t feel like that much.
@@user-dj7kc2li4c I've been carrying heavy loads on my back for years and never thought it would be an issue to me until I started getting back pains. I'm 32 now and starting to feel the sore. Been gradually reducing my carry weight. I switched from a dslr to a Mirrorless. A chunky laptop to an ultra book. I think I used to be able to adapt more, but now it's probably going to be unhealthy for me to keep doing it. I don't do lifting but my years of carrying chunky cameras sort of became my exercise.
Sometimes I'm out photography or video gigs and there's no safe place to put my bag down, so I'm running and gunning while carrying an entire studio on my back. And the distance I need to cover is far. That laptop basically becomes dead weight when I'm not using it. I need to be flexible and more nimble in these situations.
But the discomfort while travelling long stretches really takes a toll after a while.
Hey there Dave.. I just bought a Prometheus XVII - Intel Core i7-12700H - RTX 3070 Ti - 1TB Samsung SSD - 16GB DDR5 Memory - 240Hz QHD. It was on sale and included the LPP module (Liquid Cooling Module). I like it very much, but it has some issues that I'll simply have to work through. It gets very hot and very loud when used without the liquid cooler. I'm still learning how all the tweaks in the software can be set up to dial in the right performance for the task at hand. It will take some getting used to, but I'm pleased so far. Most of my work is content creation and writing. I found that I like the keyboard much more than my Razor Blade 17. The 1440P screen is bright enough at 60% for normal use and the colors seem to be on point for the work that I do. Again, so far I'm pleased with all that. I look forward to working more with it.
Cheers
Rick
p.s. love your videos and how you deliver your content.
the song that plays silently at the end of every video gets me everytime 😍
XMG is great, love it
Dave: "Secret Laptop Club"
Me: Sees my laptop in the video :O
I'm running an Eluktronics Mag-15 with a 1660ti, btw
same
same
same
Whats the cpu and price?
All I know is that we are all in the 3 million club now! GJ Dave! Congrats!
I have the xmg fusion 15. I get what you mean with the fan noise, but I'm actually quite a fan of the keyboard. I've also added 1 tb ssd 970 evo plus and that went buttery smooth. Really happy with this device :)
Just a warning to anyone interested in these.. Totally anecdotal, but relevant.
Customer service was great with Eluktronics, but I had a few serious issues with my P950HR:
-Keyboard failed four times due to bad chassis design (happened with many devices, not just mine).
-USB issues caused bad performance with VR.
-Screen cable broke after a couple years, which was replaceable.
Other than that, it was a great laptop. But I don't think they should be as hyped up as they are.
Different chassis but same thing with the keyboard ribbon.
Same with broken screen cable
Same keyboard problem with my PA71ES.
@@ryan199gamer I have a pa71es, was your problem an absence of response occuring sometimes when you press regularily used keys like " w a s d " , Because i can't figure out if it's my fingers or the keys ....
@@nour4888 My problem was that the keyboard gradually stopped working, first it was the H key, I had to press it really hard to have it register. then over a few months my W had the same problem So I just got an external mechanical keyboard. I also removed the internal keyboard and my GPU temps got a bit better because more air flow.
Another benefit is they don't overheat like some other brands, ahem.
Other brands running on intel cpus. Out of date comment.
Dave: I really like this laptop
Also Dave: Don't be swayed
Dave, can you make a video analyzing the best laptop keyboard in detail?
Explain the overall best & your personal best one. Thanks
I‘ve got the Intel XMG Core 15! I love it❤️❤️❤️
Anyone else get anxiety thinking about how those lights could fall over and shatter?
I didn't until you said it, lol.
Anyone else imagining tripping on them and they just cut you open like light sabers?
@@SystemBot No
Corner of the room, and those are not the usual fluorescent lights.
Literally had that happen at work this week, two fluorescents propped up against an office chair at far too high an angle, whoever put them their walked off for a second and both fell to their doom 😭
That's why my Fusion 15 is the perfect device for me.
I love the single cutout keyboard and I also dig the simple block design. It's actually fairly similar to the razer blade 15.
Thanks for making this! Now instead of (poorly) trying to explain to my friends and family what kind of laptop I have (I have the MAG 15), I can just send them the link to this video lol
Just remember there will never be a “good time” to buy. Even when they make the 3000 series gpu’s for laptops they will be the equivalent of the 2000 series once the 4000 series comes out and that will continue to happen until competition just makes them lower the price enough to make them go bankrupt along with the competition
There are no good times to buy but there are bad times. Eg: when the laptop has just come out. RTX laptops in the beginning of 2019 were going for 2000-3000 and by the end of 2019 had dropped by 500euros, now at the end of 2020 they are still the most powerful laptops. There is also no guarantee that 3000 series laptops are going to be any good becasue 3000 series GPUs require LOTS of power and heat dispersion....so if the 3080 is 70% better than the 2080 the 3080mq is probably going to be around 25% better than the 2080mq.
So right now is a GREAT time to pick up a 2080mq before stocks run dry, and in January its a terrible time to pick up a 3080mq. in September 2021 it will start to be a good time to pick up a 3080mq
What do you think :) just my opinion
What he said
@@Mystery017 Yes, never buy laptops when they are brand new if you are price-conscious, since less conscious folk will pay a premium for the latest stuff. The best time to buy is when the next gen starts to roll out, since they usually discount the older gen. In reality, the difference is not that huge if you lag a generation behind and you'll save a couple hundred bucks as you can pick older laptops up for a bigger discount.
That's a really cool gaming laptop
Bruh
Bruhhhhh
shut up
@Alexander Leonardo Tournier oh noooo
I just bought an Aftershock laptop 2 weeks ago and i am happy with it. 4800H and GTX2060 with clocks that get to around 2000mhs in a very well cooled chassis at a competitive price. Couldn't say no to that.
That 59-60db fan noise vs the 50-51 is HUGE. I used to use a clevo type laptop...great performance but man, the fans are just insane.
I've honestly been staying away from them because the price seems too suspiciously cheap...
There's nothing suspicious about it, the chassis the Tongfangs use are just generally more chunky meaning they can cool effectively more cheaply, i.e. foregoing the need for complex, expensive thermal solutions. The more expensive brands tend to have those more expensive thermal solutions that allow them to have more compact and stylish form factors compared to the Tongfang line up.
I know that's one of the reasons I didn't go for a Tongfang; I just couldn't get behind their aesthetic (bit chonky, very mid keyboards, fan noise, that kind of thing). I went with a Lenovo Legion 5P (Ryzen 7, RTX 2060) in the end, and I'm so happy I did because the keyboard is heaven, the fans are reasonably quiet and it has a visual style that I'm happy to take to work, all things I might not say about a Tongfang chassis.
N-NAni?!?!
because you are used to pay apple prices... ooops..✌️
These are mass-produced and the plastic used is cheaper than those 'magnesium-coted' plastics premium brands like to sway around with.
The components inside are also standardized, making them cheaper to mass-produce. This all brings down the cost of the devices.
3:27 “They still charge a reasonable price”
*$50 thermal paste upgrade*
Lol
bruh conductonaut is no joke, it's liquid metal
It's reasonable
hence why it is an 'upgrade', you are free to just have the standard paste.
nah in my country the Kyronaut upgrade is foc
I just bought an HP omen 15 as the XMG devices were quite more expensive and as long as I have researched have pretty much the same perfomance, maybe just a little edge, plus build quality in omen is quite good (the lid flex is not that bad)
I am using the Singapore version of the Mag 15 - Aftershock Vapor 15. I agree that the fan noise can get pretty loud. Loving it so far and would recommend it to anyone. One of the main reason I got it is the balance of having good performance, a built in sd card reader and decent weight.