Refund Reason: the puzzles are suppose to break me, not the other way around BTW GUYS! For those few who are not happy about me refunding the game and arguing that it takes money away from the developer, whilst it is technically true, I obviously already own a copy of this game, I love this game and it's extremely talented developers! Also, this video alone will make the game way more money than the amount that I refunded it for. Think about it, even if just 2 people buy the game because of this video, the developer is already making money. So although it may at first seem like a scummy thing to do, it can ONLY be a win for the developer. Hope you understand 👍
The game stray actually has an achievement like that where you have to rest for 2 real time hours, so you can’t really get all achievements quick there
Yaaaaaay i love superliminal, the feelings of abndonment and breaking all the previous rules game teach you in the end gives the perfect horror experience. Didnt expect you to play it too. Glad youre doing stuff you want
I did NOT expect this quality from Gronf of all the small youtubers i know. In a good way. If this branching out is not hard for you, continue if you wish, I love seeing something LIKE THIS GOD DAMN.
I see the comments talking about this being a big kind of video for you - as someone with this video being my first impression of you, you seem like a completely proffessional, high-quality longformer! I don't know how much effort this took to do (probably a lot) and whether you got too tired making it, but if it wasn't too bad please do more! Genuinely a very fun watch :)
As a game developer this is just kinda sad to see. And yes, I read your comments explaining your position, but I just don't agree. Superliminal is already a commercially successful game, so you are correct in saying that this video won't affect its revenue very much. But what about much smaller, and possibly shorter games? If someone puts out a game that can be beaten in less than 2 hours *without* speedrunning it, should players be entitled to a refund after beating it even if the developer's intention is for a short and sweet game? I can think of plenty of games that could reasonably be completed in under the 2 hour mark, but still provide a satisfying experience. Steam's refund policy is there to protect players from games that either don't work on their device, or do not meet the player's expectations in terms of quality. But when the system is abused to play short games for free, it harms the developer. This isn't just a hypothetical, either. PCGamer put out an article about this very thing happening to a developer in 2021, which I won't link to avoid tripping the spam filter, but just search "dev calls out player who refunded his game" and you should find it.
I think he already owns it, but of course doesn't make sense to refund it if complete. But Valve return policy allows any reason, as long as you don't abuse it / do it repeatedly
@@SirGronfletonI get your reasoning, though I worry that by actually showing yourself refunding the game it normalizes the act of doing so and sets an example that people will carry over to other games, which can be especially damaging to smaller developers. I fully understand playing it up for the title and I do respect that, but I do think the ending sets a poor example that reminds me of that one developer who quit game development indefinitely because they weren’t profiting off of their game due to being too short and therefore easily refundable.
@PossiblyAxolotl How is this exploiting the refund policy? Steam says you can have a refund if you play a game for less than 2 hours, he played it for less than 2 hours, he got a refund. Its literally just as simple as that, stop trying to hate on his cool content. Or you can go to literally everyone else on the internet that has ever refunded a game that they beat in less than the refund time. I wish you luck with that endeavor.
@@Yinithynhey no hate here, I’m just expressing my concern. I absolutely respect playing and speedrunning a game, the part that has me concerned is simply, as I said, showing off how easy it is to refund after you’ve finished. The point of refunding a game is generally if it doesn’t play how you expected, or is broken, or in some way provides a lesser experience than you may have hoped, but playing an entire game and then refunding is like watching a movie and then wanting to refund your ticket because it was less than 2 hours
8:38 Would be easier if you play with lower fps because then the physics collission or something works smoother and not trying to kick you out. When i did go for the sub 30 Achivement I had the same Issue playing the game at 165 FPS but after changing it to 60 the speedrun strat worked like a charm
Ah yes. A program that is passive aggressive to you in every way. Reminds me of a game with a program named ADA and is a factory building simulator. Satisfactory is all about the grind, baby!
my faverate glitch in it is the area where in room with two doors you can glitch the pool room thing thugh and get ultra large and big and really mess around think was 7th level. and wish i could re do it and i dont remember if took screne shots but the red sign in dark level i was able to light entire thing so could exlore the darkened version. but it cliped thugh and couldent get it to clip in same spot again. edit from your video the pool room glitch must been 6th level.
ah yes, why don't we abuse a feature thats supposed to make everyones life easier so that the company makes it harder for you to get a refund if you actually need it. Truely a content creator moment, everything done for the quick youtube money without thought spend on the realworld repurcussions this might cause.
I haven't watched this I just put it on my watch later so that after I beat superliminal I can watch it but it says that I've watched the entire video for some reason
I'd understand it, if You did it to a bad game, but Superliminal does NOT deserve this treatment ..... well. I guess, You did a thing. Conglaturatins? I can appreciate the speedrun tho
nice video! By the way, will you ever cover Reaver? Its a very similar game to Ultrakill and i think you and your viewers would love to see you check it out ;)
i litterly beat it in think one sitting it was short and think 2nd sitting foudn rest the stuff but found most the hiddon stuff but for some reason even when wiped the game fresh and started over years later i couldent find those hiddon things like they wre removed. also im guessign the constalations are new since i never saw any behind the levels and my play was few years ago.
Refund Reason: the puzzles are suppose to break me, not the other way around
BTW GUYS! For those few who are not happy about me refunding the game and arguing that it takes money away from the developer, whilst it is technically true, I obviously already own a copy of this game, I love this game and it's extremely talented developers! Also, this video alone will make the game way more money than the amount that I refunded it for. Think about it, even if just 2 people buy the game because of this video, the developer is already making money. So although it may at first seem like a scummy thing to do, it can ONLY be a win for the developer. Hope you understand 👍
When the puzzles arent puzzling
Me tearing up the puzzle after 124 hours of building it:
no puzzles can break the gronf
Don't be discouraged if this video gets fewer views than Ultrakill's videos, it's a sudden change in content, but it doesn't mean it's bad content.
you should play Robo quest
I can already see the devs add a new achievement called: Do nothing for 30 minutes. just to make refund-speedrunning harder
he still would have 52 left
That’s something the Stanley parable would do
@@Discoseekeagerly waiting until 2032 to finally get that achievement lol
About that
The game stray actually has an achievement like that where you have to rest for 2 real time hours, so you can’t really get all achievements quick there
7:40 That achievement is cus it's a game about physics. Who discovered gravity? Isaac Newton.. how? An apple fell on his head. Just a sweet lil' nod.
actually it didnt fell on his head
@@KoenigPixel also he didn't discover gravity, people had been aware things fall down for a while
@@Imthefake no shit
@@Imthefake yeah he didnt discover it. he invented it
@@BeagleBytes "inventing" is discovering.
7:40 "son of man" is the name of a painting by Magritte with the apple in front of the face of a man.
When you said a vid was big I was NOT expecting this lol
For real😅
This "100% and get a refund" type videos could become a great series outside of only ultrakill stuff
Yaaaaaay i love superliminal, the feelings of abndonment and breaking all the previous rules game teach you in the end gives the perfect horror experience. Didnt expect you to play it too. Glad youre doing stuff you want
I did NOT expect this quality from Gronf of all the small youtubers i know. In a good way. If this branching out is not hard for you, continue if you wish, I love seeing something LIKE THIS GOD DAMN.
If I ever make a game, I’m adding an achievement for playing for 2 hours just to screw with refund% speedrunners
that’s genius
anyway I’m using that too
Thats just evil...
cool to see you branch out with your videos, and even cooler to see its going well, pivoting channels can be hard. keep it up!!!
Great video, literally when you said a big video i didnt expect this level of quality, definetely kept it up
0:01 IS THAT V1 (the ultrakill brainrot is real)
it also did have the ultrakill sound effect
what v1
ultralobotomy is real
@PhoenixSS you clearly do not have ultrakill brainrot yet
good for you
This video is amazing, and now I want to buy the game, the devs should pay you for advertising lol! Ngl I subscribed just because of this video.
I see the comments talking about this being a big kind of video for you - as someone with this video being my first impression of you, you seem like a completely proffessional, high-quality longformer! I don't know how much effort this took to do (probably a lot) and whether you got too tired making it, but if it wasn't too bad please do more! Genuinely a very fun watch :)
Loving this Chanel 😂
The apple achievement is likely a eater egg about the apple falling on Isaac newton’s head (mind you this is just pure speculation) love the vid ❤
Just started the video, this is gonna be fire
Not with THAT amount of fire extinguishers
@Not_meant_for_public But you wouldn't extinguish it, would you?
@@donniedip youre a firekisser aren't you?
I had to fucking double check.
@@iamlosingmysanityrapidly same
I died every time he said "Dice" as the singular noun of "Die", and every time he said "Dices" was worth double
Love that youre branching out to more games!
As a game developer this is just kinda sad to see. And yes, I read your comments explaining your position, but I just don't agree.
Superliminal is already a commercially successful game, so you are correct in saying that this video won't affect its revenue very much. But what about much smaller, and possibly shorter games? If someone puts out a game that can be beaten in less than 2 hours *without* speedrunning it, should players be entitled to a refund after beating it even if the developer's intention is for a short and sweet game? I can think of plenty of games that could reasonably be completed in under the 2 hour mark, but still provide a satisfying experience.
Steam's refund policy is there to protect players from games that either don't work on their device, or do not meet the player's expectations in terms of quality. But when the system is abused to play short games for free, it harms the developer. This isn't just a hypothetical, either. PCGamer put out an article about this very thing happening to a developer in 2021, which I won't link to avoid tripping the spam filter, but just search "dev calls out player who refunded his game" and you should find it.
I think he already owns it, but of course doesn't make sense to refund it if complete. But Valve return policy allows any reason, as long as you don't abuse it / do it repeatedly
you want him to buy a game he already owns in his main steam library another time just for the sake of a video?
THIS
That's not me at 10:52, that's my identical twin V3
V1 FROM THE HIT GAME ULTRAKILL?!?!??!??!11'1'?!?!?!!
Ok so I will watch this video and come up with a joke but until then pretend this comment is really funny
Loll
Lmfao…
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!
LMFAO
When you have background music from Celeste, Portal and Sonic Mania, you know it's going to be a good video.
happy to see your not playing ultrakill lol good job
I love videos like this actual peak content
Thats such a good video! And for that, u got :Like: :)
You should play nine sols fr!!!
Love the new content
love the new video i would like more of this 100% type
damn this type of content is awesome :D
This needs to be more popular
this wasnt what i expected but good video im gonna go play superliminal now
the editing is fire
3:58 im tonight, im going to steal, the MOON! ahh moment
I love the I do not care line in super liminal it is the best line this is actually something that I think GLaDOS would say
mmm yes i love me a superliminal jumpscare whenever i watch your ultrakill playlist
While I like the game and can appreciate the speedrun, as a game developer this feels really gross and exploitative of Steam’s refund policy
Read the pinned comment for extra info. Hope you understand 😅
@@SirGronfletonI get your reasoning, though I worry that by actually showing yourself refunding the game it normalizes the act of doing so and sets an example that people will carry over to other games, which can be especially damaging to smaller developers. I fully understand playing it up for the title and I do respect that, but I do think the ending sets a poor example that reminds me of that one developer who quit game development indefinitely because they weren’t profiting off of their game due to being too short and therefore easily refundable.
@PossiblyAxolotl How is this exploiting the refund policy? Steam says you can have a refund if you play a game for less than 2 hours, he played it for less than 2 hours, he got a refund. Its literally just as simple as that, stop trying to hate on his cool content. Or you can go to literally everyone else on the internet that has ever refunded a game that they beat in less than the refund time. I wish you luck with that endeavor.
@@Yinithynhey no hate here, I’m just expressing my concern. I absolutely respect playing and speedrunning a game, the part that has me concerned is simply, as I said, showing off how easy it is to refund after you’ve finished. The point of refunding a game is generally if it doesn’t play how you expected, or is broken, or in some way provides a lesser experience than you may have hoped, but playing an entire game and then refunding is like watching a movie and then wanting to refund your ticket because it was less than 2 hours
@PossiblyAxolotldon’t even try to compare a game to a movie…
oh wow didnt expect to see one of my fav games of all time here
John Ultrakill mentioned!! 10:53
Damn.
This video is actually so good
3:42 you know what else is massive?
Your mom
(Nothing personal)
Lowwwww taperrrrr fade
8:38 Would be easier if you play with lower fps because then the physics collission or something works smoother and not trying to kick you out. When i did go for the sub 30 Achivement I had the same Issue playing the game at 165 FPS but after changing it to 60 the speedrun strat worked like a charm
16:06 You know what else is massive?
the LOOOOOW TAPER FADE
11:05 BRO THAT ACTUALLY JUMPSCARED ME SO BAD
pawn jumpscare
Did not expect this, but im not complaining superliminal is peak
Dude I fucking love this game this just gave me a WAVE of nostalgia
Ggs new game and i like the video
referencing portal at the start and then playing the ost is so crazy
Just finished the video, it was fire
You starting Chapter 5 with the same song and the same starting point of the song that I use for my phone's ringtone had me really confused
Did NOT expect a 100% refund AND superliminal in one video. Crossing that off the bingo board.
Spoiler: He played Superliminal.
no way
The apply on the head is an omage to the "discovery" of gravity.
Dude you saved my life
keep the backseat energy up!
4:44 Did the timer just add 2 minutes?
If I ever get my games on Steam I'm going to add a "Play the game for 3 hours" achievement lmao
He left the movement tech game, but the movement tech didn't leave him.
Ah yes. A program that is passive aggressive to you in every way. Reminds me of a game with a program named ADA and is a factory building simulator. Satisfactory is all about the grind, baby!
The voice crack oops 8:19
7:40 this achievement is probably related to isaac newton
3:43 massive? you know what else is massive?
LOWW TAPER FADEEE
my faverate glitch in it is the area where in room with two doors you can glitch the pool room thing thugh and get ultra large and big and really mess around think was 7th level. and wish i could re do it and i dont remember if took screne shots but the red sign in dark level i was able to light entire thing so could exlore the darkened version. but it cliped thugh and couldent get it to clip in same spot again. edit from your video the pool room glitch must been 6th level.
Also u forgot the secret ending, which if u want to completely 100% it, it means getting all the endings as well
nah but I got all achievements
2:27 i actually thought he'll put ultrakill level start there
ah yes, why don't we abuse a feature thats supposed to make everyones life easier so that the company makes it harder for you to get a refund if you actually need it. Truely a content creator moment, everything done for the quick youtube money without thought spend on the realworld repurcussions this might cause.
It’s just a fun speedrun challenge my guy calm down
bro this is fire!!!! i haven't had this much fun watching a video for so long
1. funky to see Gronf play other games.
2. holy shit the editing is amazing.
3. 11:09 you surely tried
Hey, this isnt the ULTRAKILL I know...
20:11
There’s no way sans not only made it to smash, but also to superliminal
Yo I just started playing ultrakill today in standard mode, I finished act 1 but i couldn't get any P-rank. Perhaps any tips?
Take your time.
First just focus on finishing the game and then on P-ranks, it will be easier then, you will also unlock new guns
@SpacoW5 oh ok thanks
i was the og superliminal person he watched frfr
also 8:33 u can just jump lmao
doens't work for me for some reason
@@SirGronfleton wait whattt
@@Jack-kz4nb probably my frame rate being like 1000502002055205205 frames a second
@@SirGronfleton yeah probably
What about the secret ending?
Don't worry
It's not required for any achievements so I didn't count it
A ULTRAKILL UA-camr making a video not on ULTRAKILL is crazy
The Apple achievement is referencing Issac newton apple thing
Keep it goin
Short answer: Yes. And he did.
That game looks really cool. I wonder how the devs coded it. @_@
Glad to see that my excitement from yesterday's video was well founded, great video
I haven't watched this I just put it on my watch later so that after I beat superliminal I can watch it but it says that I've watched the entire video for some reason
Do hollow knighi
I love this game
This is epic.
I'd understand it, if You did it to a bad game, but Superliminal does NOT deserve this treatment
..... well. I guess, You did a thing. Conglaturatins?
I can appreciate the speedrun tho
It's basically free advertising so it's a win for the developers
@@SirGronfleton Yeah, I guess.
@@SirGronfleton as I said in my comment tho, huge spoilers.
Rare footage of gronf not playing ultrakill
That early exit door was also a portal
First ultrakill now this. What's next?
Why did me watching a superliminal speedrun video make it a trend?
wait its 2 hours now? it used to be 8
how did time reverse at 3:51?
how did I miss that 💀 I forgot to put a negative in front of the speed of the timer so it counted up instead of down
celeste music is legendary
nice video! By the way, will you ever cover Reaver? Its a very similar game to Ultrakill and i think you and your viewers would love to see you check it out ;)
Hey man, just so you know we are here for Gronf, not ultrakill. Also try tf2.
3:42 You know what else is massive
i litterly beat it in think one sitting it was short and think 2nd sitting foudn rest the stuff but found most the hiddon stuff but for some reason even when wiped the game fresh and started over years later i couldent find those hiddon things like they wre removed. also im guessign the constalations are new since i never saw any behind the levels and my play was few years ago.
Banger game
8:35 u watched ice age 3?
turns out you make more than just ultrakill content
I think the apple achievement is an isaac newton reference
first portal, then undertale, now this
who's next?
Damn the new Ultrakill update looks kinda weird ngl