Could you please make a video on the importance of Thermal Paste and which one you recommend? Thank You, Jarrod By the way, your videos helped me decide which gaming laptop to get.☺
Hey jarrod iam having this really annoying issue on my lenovo legion 5 gaming laptop specifically with the monitor, it is gsync compatible but when i turn on gsync it greatly reduces the image quality of the monitor and adds a "blue light filter"(it works doe as it Smoothes out all the framerate inconsistencies) I'd really appreciate any help...
perfect display of strategy from Jarrod here. first get us to watch his videos to buy gaming laptops, then get us to watch his videos to cool this hot mess
Or… he is a laptop REVIEWER and he REVIEWS laptops and perhaps he just wants to help you reduce laptop temperature? Like he’s just trying to help, this isn’t some kind of scheme.
@FraglesMarmoladowy true but you can download intel extreme tuning utility. Turn off turbo and lock your cpu power package to 50-60w. Works like a charm, while it's not undervolting, it's just a hard limit to the power package, you'll see the temp difference...night and day!
For tip #2, I'll only really recommend Ilano or IETS as a laptop cooler. Im surprised not a lot of laptop reviewers get how good the vacuum sealed type coolers are, decrease temps of around 15-20C and a lot of them come with an air filter so that theyre always blowing clean air most of the time and not packed with dust. "The greatest technician thats ever lived" finally got a hold of it, now i just hope other tech reviewers actually give it a chance cuz its really really good, and i personally own one. Now i can use my laptop as a main station without worrying about temps
I've used both of them, but I like and currently use the Flydigi BS1. It delivers the same performance as the other two but is noticeably quieter than them at similar fan speeds. It's also cheaper too, $50-60~ last time I checked on Amazon. I've yet to have any issues with it unlike a few others, so from me I recommend it over the other two due to the price and noise.
Yeah, when I was playing in a room with like 19-20°C I was really surprised to see temperatures running lower than usual, and only then I figured out that its because of A/C
@@silencewench6538 damn . everywhere I live even on public outdoor spaces has air conditioning. My room is always set to 23 degrees and my laptop is always at room temperature to high if intensive.
Been a GT500 user for my Legion 5 2021 for 3 years, and it still cools my laptop very well. The fact that it can cool my laptop so much that the fans doesn't have to spin most of the time especially during simple tasks means the cooling pad really just works. And lower temps means longer life for my laptop.
@@darklord9102 Intel CPU runs cooler than AMD lmfao. at 50w limitation, it's 4.5 degrees cooler than AMD, 8 degrees cooler at 80w limitation on Legion Slim 5. As Jarrod showed
@@supernotnatural Maybe you don't know this but GT600 is also loud, louder than GT500 in fact. So if your argument for getting rid of my GT500 is because it is loud, is it contradicting to buy something that is louder than what I'm replacing? Besides, my cooling pad still cools my laptop really fine and I'm still satisfied by it. Why get rid of something that is not broken? Unless you gonna sponsor me a GT600 then why not?
@@darklord9102 intel or amd cpu doesn't matter here. I'm using a 2021 model, which by doesn't have a native fan controller support and runs relatively hot, so I had to download one from a third party source. But even that, the temps would never go down sub-45c, the requirement for the fans to turn off, so having gt500 even at least 30% speed is enough to turn off its fans, and it's still silent upon light usage.
Environment/room temperature is the largest culprit & should be considered first. Best example of this is during the heat wave in Asia a few months ago. You're literally blowing hot air coming out of exhaust vents into your machine once the fans kick in.
Not exactly, as long as there are air flowing around the room, the laptops won't overheat. But if we're talkin' about like over 35-37 degrees Celcius then yes, it is a huge issue.
Exactly! playing rdr2 with highest settings for hours in air cond room with 20 degree celcius really helps A LOT! didn't even feel any heat when i touched the keyboard panel, just a slight warm.
Another tip from me, after your laptop is out of waranty and you are really looking for more airflow, you could do some reserch and drill some holes on the back plate. I did this on my old Asus TUF laptop, there were grooves for holes but they were not open, so i opened them myself. Did some reserch and i think they decided not to open the holes for a lot of low end gaming laptops, even tho opening them helped a lot
the best thing about laptop cooling pad like Llano V3 is that it basically filter the dust on the cooling pad thus leaving you laptop fan much cleaner. this helps a lot especially if you have furry pets.
Additional tip: #1 Disable Turbo Boost, by limiting ur CPU power to its listed spec, you virtually lose nothing while gaming. It decrease my temp from 88c to 75c . #2 choose 'balanced' profile or tweak ur GPU to perform in lower Wattage than its listed spec. My 3060 mobile has 90w tdp, and I don't have any feature to limit it, but my laptop 'balanced' profile let it run on 65w tdp. It never went up higher than 70c. These 2 tips might turn people off becauss it's limiting performance, but after I tried, I feel like the loss is miniscule compared to the anxious feeling of deeling with crazy high temps.
@@fadedninna I checked the number... when turbo boost activated, somehow the laptop will run really loud (high temp) when I installing games, turns out it clocked higher than its listed spec... like throttling a car above its achievable pace. At first I was terrified when I played Uncharted & TLOU on PC, in the shader cache compiling, the temp goes to 92c which is "the worst thing you can do" for the laptop longetivity. Then I just disable turbo boost on control panel to see what has changed... and the cpu limited to it's listed clock, and I lose 2-5 fps on average which doesn't matter because I already achieve above 60fps anyway. If you think it's bad, then please do tell us about the side effect of it.... which in my case, I see none up to now.
@@nickochioneantony9288I've owned an ASUS ROG GX501GI for 5 years now. You're partially right, meaning I would not say "disable" rather than "limit" your turbo boost. I've tried disabling the boost and the clock strayed at 2200+Mhz speed, resulting in about 35-40fps decrease in CPU intense games. Temps reduced by 20°C. Then I tried limiting the boost from 4100+Mhz to 3700+Mhz. Lost about 5-7 fps, temps down by 10°C. So yes, not running at max clock speed is much better for temps, but completely disabling the boost is too much of a performance loss for my taste at least. EDIT: typos
@@nickochioneantony9288I also disable my turbo boost and made a little number change in Throttlestop and my Acer Nitro 5 went down from 90°C to 70~75 real quick. For exchange, it lower my fps for like 10 to 15 fps in GTA V but at least the temp is FeelsGoodMan XD
When I changed my MSI GS65 Stealth thermal paste to PTM7950 and regular pads to putty, never ever had themp. issues even without undervolting. But I still did undervolting because why not? After cleaning fans and changing thermal interface it really got better than when I just bought it! About 10 degrees Celsius better.
You can also limit the CPU Wattage. Many laptop processors reach unnecessary wattage levels. In this way, a temperature drop of 20-25 degrees Celsius is possible in games without feeling almost any performance difference. (There may be a noticeable difference in competitive games that require processor power, but I can say that there will be almost no difference in AAA games.) For example, 30-35w power is enough for Ryzen 5/7 6000/7000/8000 series processors. For Intel 12/13/14H/HX processors, you can try 45-65W limit. You can use UXTU software to limit AMD processors and Throttlestop software to limit Intel processors. There's no harm in trying, you can find the ideal processor wattage of your laptop with a few tries.
There's one of the most important tips left behind, turn off turbo boost from your cpu, for example if you have a ryzen 7 or 9hs, the base clock wil be +3.2ghz at 1.0v, turbo will reach +4ghz but at a 1.2 or even 1.4v for small amount of time, if you disable turbo from the cpu your temps will be stable and a lot lower, i mean 20-30° lesser, im able to run warhammer darktide and vermintide at 60fps+ at 70° in a asus rog flow x13, if i turn boost on i will be always at 85-95°, but no noticeable performance difference, of course it will depened on the application or game you are trying to play, even rendering a 4K music video that took me 35 min my temps never went higher than 74° with most of the time sitting at around 68-71. For gaming i will also recommend capping the fps, framerate will be a lot smoother like that and you'll be getting lower temps. hope that helps
AFAIK you can still undervolt all CPUs from BIOS, just not at runtime (ie via IntelXTU or ThrottleStop)... The most simple undervolt can be done by locking Vcore in BIOS to a fixed value - this will use slightly more power at idle (than stock settings), but will also use significantly less power under load... eg: 12700 with fixed undervolt goes up from 3W-5W idle to 6W-10W at ilde, but also goes from 195W down to 149W at full load, without changing any other settings.
my 2022 helios 300 with 3070 ans 12700h crash on fortnite when i use extreme and turbo and on cinebench r23 the multicore drop to 13.000... do you know why?
i recently bought flydigi bs1 cooling pad and it works very well. I achieve consistent 144 fps in apex legends and the average temperature is between 55 to 61 per celcius. The best part about this cooling pad is that it's not as loud as other high end cooling pad, even at max speed my laptop fan is louder than the cooling pad itself (my laptop is gigabyte g5mf).
Please jarrod make a video about undervolting a laptop using msi afterburner please. My lenovo legion 2022 3060 is heating up alot and not taking in proper tgp
I showed him my guide once, he said he tried it and it didn't work well for him, as I understand he didn't try it again. You can take a look at the guide I made for him though(the English one). Hopefully it'll help you. Good luck!
It don't have to be very aggressive for undervolting. Just do +225Mhz for the core and +300Mhz for the memory with 825mV should give you stability in games like 99% of the time. After that you can proceed with locking the fps. I would recommend repasting with Honeywell first and then you should be good for years. Last thing is to get an IETS cooler. It's expensive I know but really worth it if you are a laptop gamer. If undervolting is all you cared about, definitely pick Intel over Ryzen. 🤷🏻♀️
Frame rate capping is a necessity for me, even though your average frame rate is lower, it's still better for gaming because you get consistent FPS, so 60fps solid. Where uncapped it can be 100fps then drop to 60fps when the gameplay intensifies.
I have Helios 18 with I7-13700HX and undervolting is locked. I'm stuck @ 19K with Cinebench R23. I got 25K with undervolting on Lenovo Legion on i7-13700HX.
I undervolted my gpu and my cpu only needed to lower the turbo clock using the power plan (of course the settings need to be displayed via the power setting explorer) because this cpu cannot undervolt the result is that in the past 2 years I rarely get temperatures above 85 for the CPU and the GPU never again reaches 75 even my toughest game battlefield 5 cpu is no longer at 90 quite happy even though previously the CPU could be 98 and the GPU at 85 when playing that game my specifications Ryzen 7 4800h and RTX 3060 GPU
can i just say, I'm new to watching laptop based youtubers and holly fuck is this dude serious at making videos . no bullyshit, straight to the point. love it dude ! well done !
Before making changes, my laptop was hot enough to make me take my hand off immediately because of the heat. Just by blowing the airflow clean in the fans, changing thermal paste and getting a cooling pad i have to say that it performs normally without any problems.
slight CPU clockspeed limit also does wonders in many cases, especially if its voltage control is locked. I'm not talking about completely disabling Turbo Boost but just a slight underclock, so a CPU wouldn't go to highest voltages and power limits.
My laptop can’t change GPU power limits unfortunately, I’ve tried a couple different ways. (It is older so understandable) But it can still CPU undervolt!
omg i need to look into this cpu clock limit coz my lenovo levion 5 pro overboosts itself to 100 degrees or 95 everytime for no gains practically, i just disabled boost I hope i can limit the clocks i ll google it thanks for the idea@@tabalugadragon3555
Hello Jarrod, I've been looking into gaming laptops for a while now. I found two gaming laptops in my budget 1. Lenovo Ideapad gaming 3 Openbox (ryzen 7, rtx 4050) 2. Acer Nitro 17 An17-41-r0vu used (ryzen 7, rtx 4050) Lenovo one is from a source who orders their products in bulk and has no warranty and the acer one is from a store and has 30 days warranty Which one should I go for?
A cheap raised cooler does wonders. And as someone else mentioned it keeps dust and hair out of your system. I just put a new ssd in my loq15 and the inside was spotless. I have two cats so that's pretty amazing.
you left out tip number 10 - using a laptop extractor fan and a cooling pad together ... on one of your video's 4 years ago you mentioned it and I have used it ever since , it really help me a lot... Thanks
want to share a bit, my laptop is HP Pavilion Gaming 15 with i7 9750h and 1660ti Max Q, bought it back in early 2020, the cpu is hot as f and i've repasted it many times in the last 4 years and the cpu still reach 90-100c when playing heavy games even with undervolt. a couple of weeks ago i bought Honeywell PTM 7950 to replace the paste on both CPU and GPU, and also i bought Upsiren U6 Pro to replace all the thermal pads, it's been 2 weeks and i can happily say the temps is much better compared to when using thermal paste, it never went beyond 89c and usually averaging in the low 80s c even after 2 weeks with no degradation! fyi, i've tried many thermal paste like GellidGC Extreme, Kingpin KPX, Kryonaut, Arctic MX-6, and several cooler master paste that i can't remember and none of those ever have temps better than the PTM 7950 i currently use.
if you have intel, try undervolting use intel XTU might be helpful... I tested it while gaming, it takes a couple of fps (5-10fps) from my undervolt profile, the temp decrease from 85c to 77c, I'd say it is worth the perf cost
Jarrod, I have found that limiting frame rate to 40 fps, lowering screen resolution, AND using Lossless Scaling to both upscale and using 3x frame generation to get 120 fps makes a huge difference. I have even played Helldivers 2 on the much-maligned HP Omen Transcend 14 with Core Ultra 7 155H and 4060 IN ECO MODE and I'm still able to maintain 120 fps, with some screen tearing albeit but it doesn't seem to really harm the gameplay. I can actually hear and enjoy the games with minimal fan distraction!
Question: You said that it's fine to max out your fans as long as you can tolerate the noise. Does this not hurt the fan's life span at all? Like it doesn't overwork the fan and shorten how long 'till you have to replace it? Sry for my unintelligence.
Hello and thank you so much. Can you give us a conclusion comparison of temperatures when you apply all of these hacks together. I’m very curious if each will reduce the temperature for 3-5 degrees for example, will the final result be 15-20 degrees? Thank you again
a video idea i've been thinking about, laptop with the cheapest gpu advertised for gaming(aka rtx 2050) which is about 500$, versus a no-GPU but decent CPU laptop (my pick would be ryzen 7 5825u) which would go around 300$, of course rtx 2050 would perform better but, in the end both wouldn't play the newest AAA game, so would it be worth the 40% price gain?
I use the IETS gt500 cooling base and it works great! Lowers my system temperature down to 50°c on max fan speed while playing Star Citizen. It's very loud but it cools it down a lot.
To me, undervolt has to be the best way to keep a gaming laptop cool. Mine is a LOQ 15IAX9 with i5 12450HX | 3050 and the temps dropped from peak 90 (CPU) and 85 (GPU) all the way to 75 and 72, respectively, while sacrificing absolute minimal performance (about 1-2%). Though getting a cooling pad from Llano or IETS is much more preferrable and effective.
@@akshataneja1288 Can't do. Even if our specs are identical, you have to tune it yourself because deep down, they are slightly different and my settings may even crash your machine.
i have the MSI Vector 17 HX with a 4080 and an i9-14900HX and i am not experiencing the increase in performance you talked about regarding thermal throttling :(
Hey Jarrod, aside from your cool T-shirts, I love your videos, and it's the reason why I finally decided to upgrade my old Scar 3 laptop (coming up to 5 years soon). I've got the Helios 16 but I can't figure out how to actually undervolt it, XTU and Throttlestop have the options greyed out, I've unlocked the CPU in Windows Security but can't find anything else to unlock in BIOS. I was wondering if you have any ideas what's needed to undervolt the current Acer Helios series? Much appreciated, ta.
Hey, was asking on other videos, have you faced any issues on the 13th and 14th gen intel cpus or any thoughts on them. Do the laptops need a bios update for the micro-code? Any brands that have released bios updates?
Tip 1 has a couple of asterisks. Some Laptops have an intake facing the display, in which case opening the display more (which is also a side effect of propping the back end up) makes the display less of a air flow hindrance. This is more usual with the kind of hinges that prop the back of the computer up as you open the laptop. Asterisk two, if you use your laptop on top of the lap, check where the air intakes are and sit in a way you don't block them with your thighs. Not an issue with demanding games as they'd burn up any thighs of people trying to keep the laptop on top of their lap, but an issue when playing older games or just less demanding games. It is very easy to accidentally block the intake with the thighs and then wonder why the laptop is way hotter than it should be for running a simple game.
Hi Jarrod, I have a legion 5 pro laptop with a 3070 and I just cannot find this performance setting tab @4:32 any where within the legion software!! How can I find that pls?
I have an AW M18r1 and the IETS GT600 laptop stand/Fan, and this reduces temp by 20 degrees or more but is very loud. I wear headphones so no big deal, at half speed it's still effective and usable without headphones. There is another brand that is almost the same thing and same effectiveness I think. All great tips.
Thinking about getting a cooling pad for my Lenovo Legion Pro 7i Gen 9. I believe the cooling process is different from the Gen 8 if I'm not mistaken. Would love to see a review of the Rtx 4090 version.
I bought the llano cooler for my HP Omen 17 4090 and while is was great at reducing the temps of the CPU and GPU, it was pushing the hot air up through the keyboard and simultaneously over heating my internal SSD! My laptop crashed and I nearly lost all my data because of this. I've since stopped using it and everything is fine again. Just a friendly warning to anyone with the latest HP Omen model laptops that these coolers can actually cause problems. x
I would add I have an Alienware Area 51M R1 that is getting hot, I simply now run IXTU and lowered the multiplier down and it just made all the difference in the world. Super-simple.
What's your take on Lenovo LOQ motherboard issues especially the HX variants. I purchased the laptop on your recommendation but a lot of users are reporting motherboard issues especially users from India. Mine doesn't have any issues it's the AMD variant Ryzen 7 7840 HS with RTX 4050. I also noted a recent motherboard dead issue from a guy in Pakistan with the same AMD variant as mine. Waiting for your response. Thanks
I was really surprised that I was having really high temps on Alienware M18 R1 after 1year. Fortunately still have warranty they came out and replaced the Element 31 which had dried and left huge gaps on the die. Temps much lower at 70degrees. Its the first laptop that I have not really needed a cooler fan. I normally use a custom cooler master Notepal U3 with 3 x coolermaster 120mm adjustable rpm PWM fans connected to a fan controller and an old external harddrive power supply. So you can turn the fans up for gaming and down for quieter needs. Probably the best laptop cooler due to the massive amount of air pushed into the laptop.
My older Predator Helios (2019 rtx 2060) started overheating to the point of blue screen. Did all the obvious housekeeping - cleaning fans/vents, raising it a little, bought a cooling pad) none of it helped much but at least no more blue screens but it was still running even older games at about 91C. I then discovered undervolting using Throttlestop. I started off big, then gradually walked it back to stability. Funny thing is, I suspect it may have been the thermostat (?) misreading the temp in the laptop the entire time; with Throttlestop running in the background, and with NO undervolting Predator Sense would read about 70C on startup, as soon as I started Throttlestop, this would instantly drop to 50C or so and drop from there once the cooling kicked in. Of course it doesn't help I live in the tropics....
Hello, i really want your help with something, if i run my laptop fan at max for long time while playing it will effect the fans and lower the life of the fan? My laptop is high end laptop.
Hey Man I think you are the best person to ask this doubt, Does undervolting the gpu and overclocking it decreases it's life span?? I've got a legion pro 5i with RTX 4060, 80mV undervolt on 13700HX gave my laptop a +6000 Score in cinebench r23, I've also tried to undervolt the GPU and tried to overclock it by increasing GPU Memory and Core clock speeds while decreasing max voltage, at around 0.85V and 2560Mhz on Core and +500 on Memory game started to show some weird colored small artifacts... I'm just confused whether underclocking GPU + Overclocking it is potentially destroying my GPU or is this actually good for longevity since lower temperatures... Please if you've got to read this give a reply, tried reddit but didn't get any satisfacory explanations there...
Jarrod please check out the llano v12 laptop cooler for extreme cooling! I have an asus scar 17 that dropped 20c on cpu and gpu!! It has a foam seal that the laptop sits on and it literally blasts air thru the machine..
I was experiencing this exact fault my my ASUS tuf a15 the cpu went up to 90 degrees no matter what. Except if I used one of the jet cooling pad but they sound like a plan is about to take off and aren’t very portable. I ended up dropping my processor boost control and the drop my temps to a steady 68 degrees and I haven’t noticed much if any of a performance drop either
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Hi, I'm looking for a gaming and productive laptop. I have a budget of €1,300. What would you advise me?
Could you please make a video on the importance of Thermal Paste and which one you recommend?
Thank You, Jarrod
By the way, your videos helped me decide which gaming laptop to get.☺
@@JarrodsTech tell acer to allow undervolting
Hey jarrod iam having this really annoying issue on my lenovo legion 5 gaming laptop specifically with the monitor, it is gsync compatible but when i turn on gsync it greatly reduces the image quality of the monitor and adds a "blue light filter"(it works doe as it Smoothes out all the framerate inconsistencies) I'd really appreciate any help...
3:38 The Swamp Gooch jumpscare got me
The greatest techinician that's ever lived
atleast no lifeform was found
Salem please return my mother's tooth brush. It's like the greatest absence that has ever existed in my mother's bathroom cabinet. Ty :)
Someone call the Gooch Collector! Only he can save us.
The greatest technician that's ever lived 😂😂. And the lanno v12 is the greatest cooling pad that's ever lived.😂😂
Hack no 10: Activate all the rgb lights
True
based hack.
If you have rgb lights 😢
this is the first thing you need to do
Not all. Only blue. Blue = cold.
The irony that this video is sponsored by Acer predator helios 18, one of the hottest running laptops and u cant undervolt
Lol
perfect display of strategy from Jarrod here. first get us to watch his videos to buy gaming laptops, then get us to watch his videos to cool this hot mess
Or… he is a laptop REVIEWER and he REVIEWS laptops and perhaps he just wants to help you reduce laptop temperature? Like he’s just trying to help, this isn’t some kind of scheme.
Dude he is joking chill -_-@@freshis16
I mean bro he just got sponsored, you don't need to dramatize it
It's called a loop. 🤷♀
1:31 @@freshis16
another tip, use your laptop in Antarctica so it can stay cool and you won't be needing an additional cooler
Not to mention it would act as a heater to warm your tent. 2 for 1, real pro gamer move right there
@@naqibfarhan4356chup ho ja 😊
I wish i could.
@@Roshan-629 Alternative tip: Don't use your laptop so it can stay cool.
@@many_worlds I can't dude. It's my symbiote.
the fact that a video about keeping your laptop cooler is sponsored by an 18" laptop is one of the best coincidences I've ever seen
lol
Acer locked undervolting. I'm a sad owner of Helios 18 PH18-71 with i7-13700HX.
@FraglesMarmoladowy true but you can download intel extreme tuning utility. Turn off turbo and lock your cpu power package to 50-60w. Works like a charm, while it's not undervolting, it's just a hard limit to the power package, you'll see the temp difference...night and day!
@@FraglesMarmoladowy You can still undervolt with HX variants. 🤷🏻♀️
@@FraglesMarmoladowyid may acer 12gen i5 whit trotelstop
For tip #2, I'll only really recommend Ilano or IETS as a laptop cooler. Im surprised not a lot of laptop reviewers get how good the vacuum sealed type coolers are, decrease temps of around 15-20C and a lot of them come with an air filter so that theyre always blowing clean air most of the time and not packed with dust. "The greatest technician thats ever lived" finally got a hold of it, now i just hope other tech reviewers actually give it a chance cuz its really really good, and i personally own one. Now i can use my laptop as a main station without worrying about temps
Same one I have I love it i put it to 1000 and it’s more than enough And it goes to 25000 it’s insane lol
Yeah I personally have the IETS gt 600 but the gt 500 is enough for most people, I can play super high graphics with ease.
I've used both of them, but I like and currently use the Flydigi BS1. It delivers the same performance as the other two but is noticeably quieter than them at similar fan speeds. It's also cheaper too, $50-60~ last time I checked on Amazon. I've yet to have any issues with it unlike a few others, so from me I recommend it over the other two due to the price and noise.
I second this. IETS is expensive, but it helps cool your laptop very effectively.
@@jayemmzz8301 bought the same one total game changer.
Best tip: Use your Laptop in a room with air conditioner. life changer specially if youre from warmer countries
Yeah, when I was playing in a room with like 19-20°C I was really surprised to see temperatures running lower than usual, and only then I figured out that its because of A/C
@I.K.illedThatBeardGuy tutorial when ?
Do people really leave their room warm on purpose?
@@BigCobra191where I live, normal daily temperatures are around 30-37c. Not everyone has air conditioning too
@@silencewench6538 damn . everywhere I live even on public outdoor spaces has air conditioning. My room is always set to 23 degrees and my laptop is always at room temperature to high if intensive.
Been a GT500 user for my Legion 5 2021 for 3 years, and it still cools my laptop very well. The fact that it can cool my laptop so much that the fans doesn't have to spin most of the time especially during simple tasks means the cooling pad really just works. And lower temps means longer life for my laptop.
GT500 is loud. I got GT600, it has bigger fan and lower rpm is amazing. Get rid of GT500 asap.
Well my fans have never activated with doing simple tasks.... I guess you have intel cpu....
@@darklord9102 Intel CPU runs cooler than AMD lmfao. at 50w limitation, it's 4.5 degrees cooler than AMD, 8 degrees cooler at 80w limitation on Legion Slim 5. As Jarrod showed
@@supernotnatural Maybe you don't know this but GT600 is also loud, louder than GT500 in fact. So if your argument for getting rid of my GT500 is because it is loud, is it contradicting to buy something that is louder than what I'm replacing?
Besides, my cooling pad still cools my laptop really fine and I'm still satisfied by it. Why get rid of something that is not broken?
Unless you gonna sponsor me a GT600 then why not?
@@darklord9102 intel or amd cpu doesn't matter here.
I'm using a 2021 model, which by doesn't have a native fan controller support and runs relatively hot, so I had to download one from a third party source. But even that, the temps would never go down sub-45c, the requirement for the fans to turn off, so having gt500 even at least 30% speed is enough to turn off its fans, and it's still silent upon light usage.
Environment/room temperature is the largest culprit & should be considered first. Best example of this is during the heat wave in Asia a few months ago. You're literally blowing hot air coming out of exhaust vents into your machine once the fans kick in.
Not exactly, as long as there are air flowing around the room, the laptops won't overheat. But if we're talkin' about like over 35-37 degrees Celcius then yes, it is a huge issue.
@@EthanNSenpaiVN
See, it is.
@EthanNSenpaiVN here in India it's 50 degree celcius bruh
Exactly! playing rdr2 with highest settings for hours in air cond room with 20 degree celcius really helps A LOT! didn't even feel any heat when i touched the keyboard panel, just a slight warm.
Another tip from me, after your laptop is out of waranty and you are really looking for more airflow, you could do some reserch and drill some holes on the back plate. I did this on my old Asus TUF laptop, there were grooves for holes but they were not open, so i opened them myself. Did some reserch and i think they decided not to open the holes for a lot of low end gaming laptops, even tho opening them helped a lot
the best thing about laptop cooling pad like Llano V3 is that it basically filter the dust on the cooling pad thus leaving you laptop fan much cleaner. this helps a lot especially if you have furry pets.
Additional tip:
#1 Disable Turbo Boost, by limiting ur CPU power to its listed spec, you virtually lose nothing while gaming. It decrease my temp from 88c to 75c .
#2 choose 'balanced' profile or tweak ur GPU to perform in lower Wattage than its listed spec. My 3060 mobile has 90w tdp, and I don't have any feature to limit it, but my laptop 'balanced' profile let it run on 65w tdp. It never went up higher than 70c.
These 2 tips might turn people off becauss it's limiting performance, but after I tried, I feel like the loss is miniscule compared to the anxious feeling of deeling with crazy high temps.
"disabling turbo boost" is one of the worst things you can do
@@fadedninna I checked the number... when turbo boost activated, somehow the laptop will run really loud (high temp) when I installing games, turns out it clocked higher than its listed spec... like throttling a car above its achievable pace.
At first I was terrified when I played Uncharted & TLOU on PC, in the shader cache compiling, the temp goes to 92c which is "the worst thing you can do" for the laptop longetivity.
Then I just disable turbo boost on control panel to see what has changed... and the cpu limited to it's listed clock, and I lose 2-5 fps on average which doesn't matter because I already achieve above 60fps anyway.
If you think it's bad, then please do tell us about the side effect of it.... which in my case, I see none up to now.
@@nickochioneantony9288I've owned an ASUS ROG GX501GI for 5 years now. You're partially right, meaning I would not say "disable" rather than "limit" your turbo boost.
I've tried disabling the boost and the clock strayed at 2200+Mhz speed, resulting in about 35-40fps decrease in CPU intense games. Temps reduced by 20°C. Then I tried limiting the boost from 4100+Mhz to 3700+Mhz. Lost about 5-7 fps, temps down by 10°C.
So yes, not running at max clock speed is much better for temps, but completely disabling the boost is too much of a performance loss for my taste at least.
EDIT: typos
@@nickochioneantony9288I also disable my turbo boost and made a little number change in Throttlestop and my Acer Nitro 5 went down from 90°C to 70~75 real quick. For exchange, it lower my fps for like 10 to 15 fps in GTA V but at least the temp is FeelsGoodMan XD
Don't turn down texture quality, that's generally just a GPU memory check, not a performance/power consuming setting! And it has a huge visual impact!
Should i set texture quality to high?
Should I set texture quality to high?
Should I set texture quality to high?
@@rafiaislam4591if you have much VRAM, yes.
@@rafiaislam4591if you have enough vram go for it
Regarding cooling pads, it is sometimes feasible to reverse the fan's polarity to align it with the laptop's airflow direction.
When I changed my MSI GS65 Stealth thermal paste to PTM7950 and regular pads to putty, never ever had themp. issues even without undervolting.
But I still did undervolting because why not? After cleaning fans and changing thermal interface it really got better than when I just bought it! About 10 degrees Celsius better.
I pretty much change out my thermal paste whenever I clean my fans for the first time, it just makes sense since the thing is already opened.
Hi Jarrod. Please do a video on how to clean your gaming laptop most especially the air vents and fans with simple and common household items
i used thin paper but takes forever to clean fans about 20 minutes, it is safe tho i believe?
Congratulations on the shout out from Linus, Jarrod! Been following you for years mate
You can also limit the CPU Wattage. Many laptop processors reach unnecessary wattage levels. In this way, a temperature drop of 20-25 degrees Celsius is possible in games without feeling almost any performance difference. (There may be a noticeable difference in competitive games that require processor power, but I can say that there will be almost no difference in AAA games.) For example, 30-35w power is enough for Ryzen 5/7 6000/7000/8000 series processors. For Intel 12/13/14H/HX processors, you can try 45-65W limit. You can use UXTU software to limit AMD processors and Throttlestop software to limit Intel processors. There's no harm in trying, you can find the ideal processor wattage of your laptop with a few tries.
What bout for a rysen 9 6000 series
1:45 a cooling pad is way better than anything rly but it depends a lot on the way the coolingpad is made
How did you read my mind and know I was researching better ways to cool my laptop. You make so many videos that absolutely hit the spot!
What is the thermal paste that you recommend?
There's one of the most important tips left behind, turn off turbo boost from your cpu, for example if you have a ryzen 7 or 9hs, the base clock wil be +3.2ghz at 1.0v, turbo will reach +4ghz but at a 1.2 or even 1.4v for small amount of time, if you disable turbo from the cpu your temps will be stable and a lot lower, i mean 20-30° lesser, im able to run warhammer darktide and vermintide at 60fps+ at 70° in a asus rog flow x13, if i turn boost on i will be always at 85-95°, but no noticeable performance difference, of course it will depened on the application or game you are trying to play, even rendering a 4K music video that took me 35 min my temps never went higher than 74° with most of the time sitting at around 68-71. For gaming i will also recommend capping the fps, framerate will be a lot smoother like that and you'll be getting lower temps. hope that helps
Is this in armory crate?
Ask Intel and AMD to unlock all the chips for undervolting. Not just the HX or 9 variants. That's the biggest tip for cooler temps.
AFAIK you can still undervolt all CPUs from BIOS, just not at runtime (ie via IntelXTU or ThrottleStop)... The most simple undervolt can be done by locking Vcore in BIOS to a fixed value - this will use slightly more power at idle (than stock settings), but will also use significantly less power under load... eg: 12700 with fixed undervolt goes up from 3W-5W idle to 6W-10W at ilde, but also goes from 195W down to 149W at full load, without changing any other settings.
One issue is OEMs hiding all the settings away, with no 'legit' ways to unhide/edit them.
my 2022 helios 300 with 3070 ans 12700h crash on fortnite when i use extreme and turbo and on cinebench r23 the multicore drop to 13.000... do you know why?
i recently bought flydigi bs1 cooling pad and it works very well. I achieve consistent 144 fps in apex legends and the average temperature is between 55 to 61 per celcius. The best part about this cooling pad is that it's not as loud as other high end cooling pad, even at max speed my laptop fan is louder than the cooling pad itself (my laptop is gigabyte g5mf).
Please jarrod make a video about undervolting a laptop using msi afterburner please. My lenovo legion 2022 3060 is heating up alot and not taking in proper tgp
Have you changed the thermal paste, had a similar problem with a Asus M16 3060.
When I changed the thermal paste, I was able to get up to 100W at the same temp and my Graphics benchmark scores doubled.
I showed him my guide once, he said he tried it and it didn't work well for him, as I understand he didn't try it again. You can take a look at the guide I made for him though(the English one). Hopefully it'll help you. Good luck!
It don't have to be very aggressive for undervolting. Just do +225Mhz for the core and +300Mhz for the memory with 825mV should give you stability in games like 99% of the time. After that you can proceed with locking the fps. I would recommend repasting with Honeywell first and then you should be good for years. Last thing is to get an IETS cooler. It's expensive I know but really worth it if you are a laptop gamer. If undervolting is all you cared about, definitely pick Intel over Ryzen. 🤷🏻♀️
Very helpful video, thanks man! Love that foldable stand.
Frame rate capping is a necessity for me, even though your average frame rate is lower, it's still better for gaming because you get consistent FPS, so 60fps solid. Where uncapped it can be 100fps then drop to 60fps when the gameplay intensifies.
Hasn't Intel disabled undervolting on their 10th gen mobile processors and later unless you get the hx platform?
Except if you have a Acer helios 16 where Acer has locked everything CPU related. Acer when it comes to gross negligence is a champion.
yup. Helios 300 here can't do anything
I have Helios 18 with I7-13700HX and undervolting is locked. I'm stuck @ 19K with Cinebench R23. I got 25K with undervolting on Lenovo Legion on i7-13700HX.
I undervolted my gpu and my cpu only needed to lower the turbo clock using the power plan (of course the settings need to be displayed via the power setting explorer) because this cpu cannot undervolt
the result is that in the past 2 years I rarely get temperatures above 85 for the CPU and the GPU never again reaches 75
even my toughest game battlefield 5 cpu is no longer at 90 quite happy
even though previously the CPU could be 98 and the GPU at 85 when playing that game
my specifications
Ryzen 7 4800h and RTX 3060 GPU
can i just say, I'm new to watching laptop based youtubers and holly fuck is this dude serious at making videos .
no bullyshit, straight to the point. love it dude ! well done !
I haven't watched the video yet. But I've bought cooling pad for my 14,5" Lenovo and applied some liquid metal as thermal paste.
I bought an Acer predator helios neo 16 whit 4070 and i9-14900hx 2 days ago, you think I did well?
price and model?
@@Gateastrologykc the price was 1850 euros, but I paid 1550, is the acer predatod helios neo 16 2024 whit 4070 and intel core i9 14900hx
Before making changes, my laptop was hot enough to make me take my hand off immediately because of the heat. Just by blowing the airflow clean in the fans, changing thermal paste and getting a cooling pad i have to say that it performs normally without any problems.
With which software should we undervilt cpu and gpu on a laptop ?
Not mentioning gpu undervolting is crazy.
slight CPU clockspeed limit also does wonders in many cases, especially if its voltage control is locked. I'm not talking about completely disabling Turbo Boost but just a slight underclock, so a CPU wouldn't go to highest voltages and power limits.
Yeah - not even touching on it seems wrong as this is just 101…
My laptop can’t change GPU power limits unfortunately, I’ve tried a couple different ways. (It is older so understandable)
But it can still CPU undervolt!
omg i need to look into this cpu clock limit coz my lenovo levion 5 pro overboosts itself to 100 degrees or 95 everytime for no gains practically, i just disabled boost I hope i can limit the clocks i ll google it thanks for the idea@@tabalugadragon3555
@@briananeuraysem3321 unless you have and AMD GPU, you have full control over it, power limits(not directly), voltage, clockspeeds.
Appreciate the vid, have been researching stands/pads the last couple weeks
Hello Jarrod,
I've been looking into gaming laptops for a while now. I found two gaming laptops in my budget
1. Lenovo Ideapad gaming 3 Openbox (ryzen 7, rtx 4050)
2. Acer Nitro 17 An17-41-r0vu used (ryzen 7, rtx 4050)
Lenovo one is from a source who orders their products in bulk and has no warranty and the acer one is from a store and has 30 days warranty
Which one should I go for?
A cheap raised cooler does wonders. And as someone else mentioned it keeps dust and hair out of your system. I just put a new ssd in my loq15 and the inside was spotless. I have two cats so that's pretty amazing.
you left out tip number 10 - using a laptop extractor fan and a cooling pad together ... on one of your video's 4 years ago you mentioned it and I have used it ever since , it really help me a lot... Thanks
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want to share a bit, my laptop is HP Pavilion Gaming 15 with i7 9750h and 1660ti Max Q, bought it back in early 2020, the cpu is hot as f and i've repasted it many times in the last 4 years and the cpu still reach 90-100c when playing heavy games even with undervolt. a couple of weeks ago i bought Honeywell PTM 7950 to replace the paste on both CPU and GPU, and also i bought Upsiren U6 Pro to replace all the thermal pads, it's been 2 weeks and i can happily say the temps is much better compared to when using thermal paste, it never went beyond 89c and usually averaging in the low 80s c even after 2 weeks with no degradation!
fyi, i've tried many thermal paste like GellidGC Extreme, Kingpin KPX, Kryonaut, Arctic MX-6, and several cooler master paste that i can't remember and none of those ever have temps better than the PTM 7950 i currently use.
if you have intel, try undervolting use intel XTU might be helpful... I tested it while gaming, it takes a couple of fps (5-10fps) from my undervolt profile, the temp decrease from 85c to 77c, I'd say it is worth the perf cost
And what are the under-volt apps for AMD Ryzen cpu, because both of apps that you mentioned are exclusively for Intel cpu.
Jarrod, I have found that limiting frame rate to 40 fps, lowering screen resolution, AND using Lossless Scaling to both upscale and using 3x frame generation to get 120 fps makes a huge difference. I have even played Helldivers 2 on the much-maligned HP Omen Transcend 14 with Core Ultra 7 155H and 4060 IN ECO MODE and I'm still able to maintain 120 fps, with some screen tearing albeit but it doesn't seem to really harm the gameplay. I can actually hear and enjoy the games with minimal fan distraction!
Pls invest in a headset. 40fps and using lossless scaling on top of it for rtx 4060 is crazy
My main problem is my CPU temperature while playing escape from Tarkov, any tips for that? is there a way for my video card to take on more?
Just curious, are laptop fans intake or exhaust fans?
bottom panel is intake side and back openings are exhaust
Question: You said that it's fine to max out your fans as long as you can tolerate the noise. Does this not hurt the fan's life span at all? Like it doesn't overwork the fan and shorten how long 'till you have to replace it? Sry for my unintelligence.
That Children of Bodom t-shirt brings back memories from my early teens 😁 Downfall and Needled 24/7 ❤️
Will that metal stand in your description fit the Strix scar 18?
Hello and thank you so much.
Can you give us a conclusion comparison of temperatures when you apply all of these hacks together.
I’m very curious if each will reduce the temperature for 3-5 degrees for example, will the final result be 15-20 degrees?
Thank you again
Hey Jarrod if a laptop has both liquid metal in both cpu gpu does it need a liquid metal replace over time?
Is it good idea to set very low graphics and enabling 120 fps
a video idea i've been thinking about, laptop with the cheapest gpu advertised for gaming(aka rtx 2050) which is about 500$, versus a no-GPU but decent CPU laptop (my pick would be ryzen 7 5825u) which would go around 300$, of course rtx 2050 would perform better but, in the end both wouldn't play the newest AAA game, so would it be worth the 40% price gain?
i use books to elevate the laptop cuz i dont have any cooling pad for now for better airflow through vents i just wanted ask if its okay to do this
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Wearing a children of bodom shirt? Na this guy knows his metal.
😂😂😂😂😂 I didn't realise it until I saw your comment
I use the IETS gt500 cooling base and it works great! Lowers my system temperature down to 50°c on max fan speed while playing Star Citizen. It's very loud but it cools it down a lot.
My ROG has liquid metal thermals... I bought it about 3 years ago... Should i replace the paste, its not normal paste... Have doubt., what shall i do
When are you going to make a review about the Lenovo legion pro 5i Gen 9?
Does the legion 7i gen 9 use liquid metal?
To me, undervolt has to be the best way to keep a gaming laptop cool. Mine is a LOQ 15IAX9 with i5 12450HX | 3050 and the temps dropped from peak 90 (CPU) and 85 (GPU) all the way to 75 and 72, respectively, while sacrificing absolute minimal performance (about 1-2%). Though getting a cooling pad from Llano or IETS is much more preferrable and effective.
I Also own this laptop can you share the presets with me mine is i513450hx with 4050
@@akshataneja1288 Just lower PL1 and PL2
@@akshataneja1288 Can't do. Even if our specs are identical, you have to tune it yourself because deep down, they are slightly different and my settings may even crash your machine.
@@theartworkhub easier said than done but that's pretty much it. though using throttlestop is recommended.
@@EthanNSenpaiVN you can also undervolt your GPU
i have the MSI Vector 17 HX with a 4080 and an i9-14900HX and i am not experiencing the increase in performance you talked about regarding thermal throttling :(
The Scariest Part About This Video Is The Cleaning At 3:38
I modified my gaming laptop with water colling , and it's impressive performance improvement !
Is it worth upgrading my laptops liquid metal asus rog strix g17 2023 Ryzen 9 7845hx ?
Hey Jarrod, aside from your cool T-shirts, I love your videos, and it's the reason why I finally decided to upgrade my old Scar 3 laptop (coming up to 5 years soon). I've got the Helios 16 but I can't figure out how to actually undervolt it, XTU and Throttlestop have the options greyed out, I've unlocked the CPU in Windows Security but can't find anything else to unlock in BIOS. I was wondering if you have any ideas what's needed to undervolt the current Acer Helios series? Much appreciated, ta.
Hey, was asking on other videos, have you faced any issues on the 13th and 14th gen intel cpus or any thoughts on them. Do the laptops need a bios update for the micro-code? Any brands that have released bios updates?
At this point we haven't seen any confirmation that there are issues with laptops.
Is 65-75 degree on CPU and GPU is safe for gaming? Like for long session of 5-8hrs
Tip 1 has a couple of asterisks. Some Laptops have an intake facing the display, in which case opening the display more (which is also a side effect of propping the back end up) makes the display less of a air flow hindrance. This is more usual with the kind of hinges that prop the back of the computer up as you open the laptop. Asterisk two, if you use your laptop on top of the lap, check where the air intakes are and sit in a way you don't block them with your thighs. Not an issue with demanding games as they'd burn up any thighs of people trying to keep the laptop on top of their lap, but an issue when playing older games or just less demanding games. It is very easy to accidentally block the intake with the thighs and then wonder why the laptop is way hotter than it should be for running a simple game.
Hi Jarrod, I have a legion 5 pro laptop with a 3070 and I just cannot find this performance setting tab @4:32 any where within the legion software!! How can I find that pls?
I have an AW M18r1 and the IETS GT600 laptop stand/Fan, and this reduces temp by 20 degrees or more but is very loud. I wear headphones so no big deal, at half speed it's still effective and usable without headphones. There is another brand that is almost the same thing and same effectiveness I think. All great tips.
Super video. I've been looking at getting a MSI Katana with the RYZEN 9 but i'm hearing it has a lot of cooling issues. Same for the Helios Neo 18
Sir plZ give review vivobook 14x OLED, 13500H with RTX 3050. That really Budget Friendly or not.
Thinking about getting a cooling pad for my Lenovo Legion Pro 7i Gen 9. I believe the cooling process is different from the Gen 8 if I'm not mistaken. Would love to see a review of the Rtx 4090 version.
I bought the llano cooler for my HP Omen 17 4090 and while is was great at reducing the temps of the CPU and GPU, it was pushing the hot air up through the keyboard and simultaneously over heating my internal SSD! My laptop crashed and I nearly lost all my data because of this. I've since stopped using it and everything is fine again. Just a friendly warning to anyone with the latest HP Omen model laptops that these coolers can actually cause problems. x
Finally a gaming laptop tips we all wanted
can you explain how to fix stuttering fps while gaming cuz unstable gpu usage?
Ahhh Children of Bodom, what a nice t-shirt, man! Laiho will be remembered for many more years!
My Legion 7i will be delivered tomorrow. This video was uploaded at the perfect time
how convenient! I was looking for this!
I would add I have an Alienware Area 51M R1 that is getting hot, I simply now run IXTU and lowered the multiplier down and it just made all the difference in the world. Super-simple.
I have an MSI Titan 18HX, and have my fps capped to 120Hz, can it run faster, yes, but it then gets almost 20c hotter.
Love your channel and thanks for the great information ... Subbed
What's your take on Lenovo LOQ motherboard issues especially the HX variants. I purchased the laptop on your recommendation but a lot of users are reporting motherboard issues especially users from India. Mine doesn't have any issues it's the AMD variant Ryzen 7 7840 HS with RTX 4050. I also noted a recent motherboard dead issue from a guy in Pakistan with the same AMD variant as mine. Waiting for your response. Thanks
Thanks I needed this
Hope they help!
@ yeah i’m getting a new gaming laptop soon
I was really surprised that I was having really high temps on Alienware M18 R1 after 1year. Fortunately still have warranty they came out and replaced the Element 31 which had dried and left huge gaps on the die. Temps much lower at 70degrees.
Its the first laptop that I have not really needed a cooler fan. I normally use a custom cooler master Notepal U3 with 3 x coolermaster 120mm adjustable rpm PWM fans connected to a fan controller and an old external harddrive power supply. So you can turn the fans up for gaming and down for quieter needs. Probably the best laptop cooler due to the massive amount of air pushed into the laptop.
I have dell G15 5530 I want to undervolting my cpu but it didint work do u have way to undervolt it ?
My older Predator Helios (2019 rtx 2060) started overheating to the point of blue screen. Did all the obvious housekeeping - cleaning fans/vents, raising it a little, bought a cooling pad) none of it helped much but at least no more blue screens but it was still running even older games at about 91C. I then discovered undervolting using Throttlestop. I started off big, then gradually walked it back to stability. Funny thing is, I suspect it may have been the thermostat (?) misreading the temp in the laptop the entire time; with Throttlestop running in the background, and with NO undervolting Predator Sense would read about 70C on startup, as soon as I started Throttlestop, this would instantly drop to 50C or so and drop from there once the cooling kicked in. Of course it doesn't help I live in the tropics....
Hello, i really want your help with something, if i run my laptop fan at max for long time while playing it will effect the fans and lower the life of the fan? My laptop is high end laptop.
Great to see a CoB fan. RiP Alexi!
A great one as usual
Hey Man I think you are the best person to ask this doubt, Does undervolting the gpu and overclocking it decreases it's life span?? I've got a legion pro 5i with RTX 4060, 80mV undervolt on 13700HX gave my laptop a +6000 Score in cinebench r23, I've also tried to undervolt the GPU and tried to overclock it by increasing GPU Memory and Core clock speeds while decreasing max voltage, at around 0.85V and 2560Mhz on Core and +500 on Memory game started to show some weird colored small artifacts... I'm just confused whether underclocking GPU + Overclocking it is potentially destroying my GPU or is this actually good for longevity since lower temperatures... Please if you've got to read this give a reply, tried reddit but didn't get any satisfacory explanations there...
Very informative video. Thank you
Jarrod please check out the llano v12 laptop cooler for extreme cooling! I have an asus scar 17 that dropped 20c on cpu and gpu!! It has a foam seal that the laptop sits on and it literally blasts air thru the machine..
I was experiencing this exact fault my my ASUS tuf a15 the cpu went up to 90 degrees no matter what. Except if I used one of the jet cooling pad but they sound like a plan is about to take off and aren’t very portable. I ended up dropping my processor boost control and the drop my temps to a steady 68 degrees and I haven’t noticed much if any of a performance drop either
Jarrod, will we get a review of the Helios 18?
Can you make a video about how to clean and apply liquid metal in legion 7pro