The Rise and Fall of the 1985 Kenner POTF line and why the Last 17 isn’t really the Last 17!
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- Опубліковано 10 тра 2024
- Having a bit of fun with the categorization of the Last 17. Paploo and Lumat ROTJ Wave 2B. Mail Away Anakin ROTJ Wave 2C. Wave 3 =13 POTF Figures w/Coins. Yakface Not available in the US. Just Canada and Tri Logo. No EBAY at the time. Purchased years later on secondary market!
You sound like a nice, kind and down to earth person, and that's hard to find in the current collecting community nowadays. Thanks for the info. Very valuable
Omg thank you so much for those kind words. I love Star Wars and I love the toys especially talking about them. Those toys got me through some rough times as a kid and I’m thankful for it. When I say I’m humbled by the positive feedback I’ve received I truly mean it. The fans are “the reason why I do what I do”. Thank you again
It is good to pass along that knowledge. When I was a kid in the 70s/80s, I did pick up experience kind of without knowing it. You just learn things like which blaster goes with each figure and you have a catalog of what figures came out and when they came out. Nice retrospective man.
Thank you my friend. It’s funny, I was an authority on that stuff as well. Everyone use to ask me which guns went with each figure. You just pick it up along the way. Thanks for watching. MTFBWY
Great video and great wisdom on this subject ! 😁🤙
Thanks for the kind words! It warms my heart when I get comments like this. This is exactly why I started this channel! Appreciate the support, thanks for watching and as always MTFBWY
I think the “last 17” label was created by European collectors, since Paploo and Lumat were never released on European ROTJ cards. And since those collectors were the first ones to coin the phrase, that’s the one that stuck.
For me personally, I owned Paploo, Lumat, and the mail-away Anakin for over a year before I even knew the POTF line existed. So I’ve never considered those three as part of Power of the Force. But I’ve been debating online about the inaccuracy of the “last 17” name for over 20 years and eventually I just gave up on it.
Thank you for your take on the whole “last 17” debate. It’s nice to know I’m not the only one who thinks this way. Another collector mentioned the Tri Logo argument as well which is very prudent to the discussion but for collectors in the US, it’s pretty apparent my video isn’t too far off the mark. Thanks for your support of the channel and MTFBWY
This is a great and very informative video! Thank you!
You’re welcome! I’m glad you enjoyed it. It is exactly why I started the channel! MTFBWY
2 things killed the Star Wars line. The first was that so many figures came with sticks instead of guns. In the original line any alien could be a bounty hunter with a gun. The second and bigger issue was GI Joe was such a juggernaut from 84-86.
I agree with you, esp about GI Joe! Thanks for your insight and thanks for watching MTFBWY
@Magnumrex, I had started getting Joes in 83. Spent all my toy efforts on them after I got my first two one night (parents brought home Destro and Snowjob). I recall seeing (must have been January 1985) a bin that was maybe close to chest height for me as a nine year old, and it was filled with the ROTJ figures all a dollar each. I am pretty sure I had recently gotten a hooded cobra commander in the mail, and my parents were not having it when I asked for a couple of the Star Wars guys that day, Christmas was not long past either. What struck me was there were hundreds of figures in that bin, and they were only a bucks each.
The last 17, I’m pleased you said highly sort after and not rare, they are not rare at all, they are always on eBay and toy shows everywhere and were sold in the millions
I agree with you whole heartedly. My friend George, who I mention on the channel frequently, recently completed the original 96. He didn’t overpay for any of the final 13 because I told him they weren’t rare! Good catch on that my friend
Hey John Maguire! Distant cousin!
Fun video! Always annoyed me that Yakface wasn't even available here!!!!!
Exactly! That’s why I subtract him from MY list. I couldn’t buy him in a store so to me he didn’t “ count” 🤣
nice video
Thanks Mr Chambers! That’s a huge compliment coming from you!
"Don't open those white boxes. Alot of different dudes came in them."
That joke is for you JM.
I was there as a collector in 1978 through 1986. I considered the 3 figures of the Rebo Band as a part of the 1984 line. The two Ewoks Lumat and Paploo came out in 1984 in their own wave bringing the number up to 17. Then, Anakin was the mail away with the Sears exclusives Barada, EV -9D9, and Amanaman at the end of 1984. Those three were only temporarily exclusive to Sears in their Christmas catalog and the 2nd issue Jabba Dungeon.
Great memory. You certainly know your stuff. It’s funny how the Rebo Band isn’t included in the “collect all 92” as they certainly were action figures that you had to have in your collection. Appreciate the recollection of your fond memories and thanks for watching. MTFBWY
It's true it's the last 13... from a certain point of view! ehhhhhhh
FYI love your channel liked and subscribed!
lol I saw what you did there. Love that quote from ObiWan. Thanks for subscribing! It always warms my heart to hear kind words like that😊
😀👏👏👏👏
Thank you John
I remember that little box, it was so exciting when it came. Admiral Ackbar was also a mail away.
Yes he was my friend…as well as Nein Nunb. So many mailaways offered during the entire run. MTFBWY
i got Amanaman and luke in stormtrooper gear and Han in carbonite and i don't know if i got any more of those last 17, i was getting Mask toys? and He Man was still going strong i think
Those were great times to be a toy collector. Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching. MTFBWY
i remember getting some figs in those little white boxes, i know we had Nein Numb but i don't know if we got him on card, the emperor i think we mailed away for, and that is too bad, i know i didn't save many of the card backs, but if i did, that would have been neat to have the emperor on card, was he on card at the toy store? or just a mail away figure?
Usually the mailaways came in those little white boxes. Someone on the channel mentioned getting the Emperor on a card through the mail which I wasn’t aware they had done but nothing surprises me with Kenner…and yes every figure (Emperor and Nein Numb included) that was a free mailaway eventually came on a card. Anakin being the last on a POTF card. Thanks for the comment and for subscribing MTFBWY
What about the mail away Emperor? When did he come out, and didn't he later come out on a card?
The Emperor was offered before Wave 2 so that adds another layer to the onion. Good catch on that my friend
And yes he came on a ROTJ card.
AND if you wanna peel the onion even further Admiral Ackbar and Nien Nunb were both mailaways before the ROTJ wave 1 was even released 😂
Boba Fett, Bossk & 4 LOM were mail aways too.
@@edwinsmith-jones6205 yes there were countless mailaways. Ackbar, the Emperor, Nein Nunb. Kenner was practically giving the collection away for free😂
No, a Cloud Car Pilot is way more expensive than a Anakin figure. A Anakin figure is one of the cheapest figure in the entire line. Hell, a loose Cloud Car Pilot communicator is more expensive than a Anakin figure.
The only problem with that is my cousin didn’t have the communicator so he traded me with just the gun lol. At the time it was a bad trade but now… not so much. Still would’ve been nice to get that communicator though😂
For anyone living in the Tri-Logo sales regions, they were the "last 17" 😀
Agreed. Thanks for giving a true perspective from that region! MTFBWY
at 15 25, we know George liked the 1950s, from his car movie, so maybe he was making a joke, Yakity Yak , don't talk back
lol yes American Grafitti got it all started for George
I was in a toy shop i sore all 17 i asked if i could have a couple as they were 99p i was after the ewoks and Lando.. Was told i could have 1 toy so.. i picked the mask Robot and he kid who came with it... SOB if i had known then
Yes if we had known then what we know now we would have bought em all up. Kenner probably wouldn’t have cancelled the line as a result. If only we had a Time Machine…😂
@@DougAlan-atswc id be to busy buying Lotto tickets for the massive roll overs but the week before it was won to buy Star Wars Figs TBH.. But agreed Star Wars problem at the time was the kids who loved it were 15-6 and the kids after them didnt want the "OLD" toys and wed all moved on to Thundercats Transfomers Ghostbusters Mask and so much more (Loved the 80s)and Star Wars we all tough was finished and not coming back then all got to 20 and wanted it back.. then got it back so only wanted the first 3 then Disney Brought it and we say rightly THERE ARE ONLY 6 Star wars films Maybe we'll keep Rouge One last one was in 2003
@@jaritime1406 thanks for the input on the subject. Tough at 15-16 to buy toys when you’ve got cars girls etc on your mind. I just knew I had to finish the collection and thank God my girlfriend at the time was cool with it. Agree with you on 6-7 movies. Disney hasn’t done the Star Wars franchise any favors. Thanks for watching and supporting the channel and MTFBWY
I turned 13 when Return of the Jedi came out, and I got most of the figures, but when the Power of the Force figures came out, I guess I decided I was too old to be buying Star Wars toys. I do have the Imperial Dignitary, for some reason. I must have gotten it as a present or something.
Then you and I must be close in age😊. I thought I was a bit too old as well but I wanted to complete the collection. My girlfriend at the time was supportive of it so it kinda made things a bit easier. Thanks for sharing your memory with me and for watching. MTFBWY
that black card back with the inset photo didn't do it for me as a kid, i liked the way the backing boards used to look, and that was why i think i didn't elect to purchase those last 17, i thought the boards were ugly looking , it was my parents buying the toys, but i got to pick out what i wanted
Yeah those cardbacks weren’t everybody’s cup of tea but with no new movies on the horizon to bolster sales Kenner was grasping at straws to try to keep the line afloat. It’s too bad it couldn’t have lasted a bit longer. Who know what other figures we might’ve gotten
You mailed away for more than one Emperor and more than one Anakin? Once I finally got the Emperor in the mail, took forever to come, I gave up mailing away for anymore action figures! Anakin I waited to buy as an adult from an ebay seller. I can remember getting the Emperor on a cardback in the mail, some people just got him mailed in a box.
Wow that’s interesting. Never heard of people getting carded mailaway figures. Kinda cool. Yes I sent away for multiple Boba Fett’s. Then later multiple Emperors (don’t know why). When Anakin was announced I sent for 2 of him. It was like the POP’s were burning a hole in my pocket lol. Thanks for watching and MTFBWY
@@DougAlan-atswc I think if we had gotten a Slave Leia action figure from Kenner in the 1980s, the line might've lasted longer. I'm glad Stan Solo made a custom one!
@@TimHayes agreed that figures amazing!
i thought the Chief Chirpa and Logray figures were sculpted so nicely after their movie appearances, and i was so disappointed how the Wicket toy looked, compared to how detailed all the Jabba's palace aliens were and the Chief Chirpa figure, in 2023? they finally released a Wicket figure that looks like his movie appearance, i don't know if it was TVC, i think it was Black series, which is six inch scale, so i didn't like that we didn't get him in 3.75 inch scale
Wicket has been released in TVC and he looks amazing. Down the line I will be doing a top ten TVC and if I’m not mistaken Wicket cracks the Top 10…stay tuned
@@DougAlan-atswc was the wicket in tvc you mentioned released around the same time as the 2023 black series one?
@@futuramayeah I’m not quite sure but it was released twice. The 2nd version was rereleased a couple of years back with photoreal. They’re both amazing figures
at 6 58 of this video , you could have played the video, dramatic hamster , den den den! ,that would have been funny
Still figuring out stuff like that but definitely have to keep that in mind for future videos lol
Another correction. EV-9D9 is not a he, it's a she. EV-9D9 is a female supervisor droid.
I always mess that up even though I know it’s a she. I mention that in another comment on this same post. I read it in Tales From Jabba’s Palace. It’s one of those things where you know she’s a she but still mess it up 😂
Thank you for doing this I collected them at the start of 1977 until 1983 - 1984. I didn't get any of the Power of the Force figures. I remember them but I didn't buy them. I had that time moved on to Super Heroes . I started buying more and more comics Star Wars by that point wasn't that much fun anymore. I think mainly I just didn't really care for the Return of The Jedi movie. And wasn't into the Endor tv movies. So thank you for passing on your knowledge.
You’re more than welcome. Happy I could impart my wisdom on the subject. Thanks for watching and supporting the channel. MTFBWY
EV-9D9 is a she rather than a he
Thank you. I knew that (from the book Tales from Jabba’s Palace) but from time to time my tongue and brain aren’t in sync 😂. I’ll have to rewatch the video to see where I messed that up. Thanks for watching and MTFBWY