In 1975 I bought a new 1st gen Model T with a 3-12” 6 ohm cabinet. Played a ‘73 SG Standard through an EHX LPB-1 into the middle input and cranked it. LOUD!
This is my gripe, too. Literally no one demoes these amps properly, going through the amp by itself and all the settings and then maybe a short demo of some pedal in front of it in the end. Nice video, but it's esentially a pedal demo.
Great video. I have a first gen that I got around '74. 150 watts of loud. I used an MXR Distortion+ back in the day with the input gain turned up and controlled the overall volume (or tried to) with the master. Now I'm thinking of taking it out and seeing if the caps are okay.
Awesome job! Just liked and subscribed. This morning I ordered an Earthquaker Acapulco Gold V2 pedal but you've already got me thinking about one of those modern clone amps. Thanks for the great video!
It’s crazy how these things basically spawned a whole genre, and it was probably because they were in some dive of a rehearsal room, or a pawn shop, and then someone got baked, threw some fuzz at them, and realised the combo is magic.
Nah it aint the amp that spawned the genre, it was the band taking the name that helped push the genre fwds, taking over for sleep after they broke up around 98, sunn o came out same year and soon created a mystique that raised the profile of the amps, even tho they didnt sound like that. It's all an image, not a sound, they don't make a doom sound without pedals, just happen to make a good pedal platform, but many amps do too. Cool name and image nonetheless, but the amp all by itself just a pretty basic loud clean tube amp.
@@Witchpit It's definitely on my wish list. I've got the Ceriatone '59 Bassman, it's a killer amp and does doom really well with a closeback orange 2x12.
Awesome video man, great presentation. I loved how that muff sounded through your T. I have a 1st & 2nd gen and love them both. They are actually pretty different sounding amps tbh...both great amps
@@Witchpit yeah man run a 1st & second gen in stereo and crush the world. They compliment each other very well. 2nd gen pushes the punchy mids, 1st gen kills it with lows and highs. Would sound killer through your orange cabs
Dude! Great job on the video and the tones were outstanding!!!!! About to do some recording with my 2nd gen and Dom with his 1st Gen. Can't wait to get it out!
OK, but I've never heard a Muff sound like that through any other amp. They are known as a high headroom pedal platform for doom genres. To not put fuzz in front of it would be a fairly unpopular move. The clean tone isn't exactly anything special, it sounds like any big clean amp. Not much different to a Hiwatt, maybe a little less chime. A maxed out muff our rat pedal is where these things come into their own.
@@Patrick-857 ok, then this is for pedal guys, not guys like me that hate pedals, I plug straight into amps and crank them, whatever they may be...used to be old fenders + marshalls, now I use old oranges and hiwatts, all which have unique character all their own when cranked. I have never played a sunn so wanted to hear it's true character alone cranked no pedals. So far I dont think I'm missing much, might just be a generic big clean tight tone with little character to contribute of it's own probably being higher headroom than a hiwatt perhaps, and less totally interesting or versatile. Then the sunn hype must come from pedal guys looking for amps to optimize their pedals, which is not my thing but to each their own. @Patrick-857
@RocknJazzer He plays clean at the start. They are unique amps, but people mostly use them for that doom sound it would seem. Although the Melvins used the Beta Lead which is solid state.
@@Patrick-857 Yes clean on 3 just a generic. I just looked at the schematic, pretty basic, nothing that would create much character, maybe add a little medium splatty overdrive is about all I think it would do. Thing is when he adds the TS9 or muff, my 70s oranges and hiwatts can get and beat both those tones naturally without any pedals, and more organic bigger rawer. At one time I was a pedal guy, had those and more (hundreds as a collector/reseller) and what I hear the sunn doing to those pedals here so far is not much, maybe a little medium splatty drive. The schematic shows it as a basic low gain preamp section and tonestack into a high headroom power amp. I used to have ampeg V9 and fender PS400 heads back in the day just for clean use (both used six 6550's running at about 700V plate voltage, putting out over 400W rms) and they were near impossible to get any harmonic overtones or overdrive out unless near maxed and were not pretty at that point, but had a big tight bottom and cutting top end, guess that is what pedal guys get sunns for, that little extra platform for support. The oranges and hiwatts have more character and overdrive when cranked w/o pedals than all the above amps, but to each their own.
Any chance of keeping everything the same (reamping your playing through whatever pedals) into different amps so we can hear what the amp is imparting? It’s hard to tell what this amp is doing with pedals that colour the sound as heavily as they do.
btw.. the 2000s with dynaco transformers is my fav. ya need a pre though.. i use a digitech rp80... ya cheese... but it works!!! much better than my RP21d!!???
I have a 2nd gen model T i bought in '98 for $200. Replaced the tubes and power supply. Played it for years. It's collecting dust in my closet now. But this makes me wanna get it out and play it again. Great video!
Great demo and very informative. If I have any criticism at all, it's that since the amp was never touched during the demo, it's more of a pedal demo. I would have liked to have heard what the amp itself can do with all those controls and midrange options. When the amp came out, Marshall was the king of the hill and this was supposed to fit into that mindset and what guitarists expected from a rock amp then. I would like to hear the range of tone the amp can do from clean to dirty with tone variations.
Honestly the amp on it's own isnt anything special...its loud and clean . That's why these things are the perfect pedal platform and the preferred to run them.
A Finnish electronics company called Uraltone sells a DIY kit of the first version if someone wishes to build one for themselves! Starts at 1000€ excluding the valves.
@@Witchpit I'm asking because I'm interested but I don't wanna play doom/drone and I have haven't see anyone demoing these amps outside of these genres to hear what they would sound like.
@@tbsq1114 yea I mean honestly they are just really clean loud amps. On there own not much to really demo. That's why these amps make such good pedal platforms.
Why is it impossibly to find a video of these where there is just ONE clip with the gain and/or master maxed with no pedals? Why oh why will nobody do that?
It was a generally good demo, don’t get me wrong, it’s just that with the Model T in particular, nobody actually showcases the amp itself doing what you would assume it’s famous for.
Ceriatone makes a replica, hand wired by an electric engineer who went to college in the U.S.,for about half the $$$$. Located in Malaysia and ships worldwide.
That is an awesome sounding amp. Makes me sad when i had the chance to snag one for $500 in 2005 when i see the prices now. Pawn shop didn't know what they had at the time. Came back 2 weeks later and it was gone
I have a 1st generation model t,sunn concert controller 2,and sun speaker cabinet with 2 15" subs.all original i bought from a old man that used to do concerts.i also bought a 2 piece fender band master ab763 w/the 2 12".im looking to sell all this equipment. bandmaster
Loved it! Really dug the sound samples and the choice of pedals. All in 10/10 on that Video. Can’t wait to get my hands on the 150 Watt IIIVIIVIII Amp. Chris over at JPTR FX is also spot on with everything he does. Both great options. I would love for HEX to go full on production mode and start pumping out Hex Model T‘s but hey- who knows.
I had the tube preamp v2 by Jessup and It was pretty well done and pretty close. That was back when they could be purchased for a few hundo, now they are closer to a grand.
I've always kinda dug the second gen more. The Ampeg V4 guitar amps also used 6550s. Because screw ears and small wildlife LOUD!! Haha! Sick sludgy drenched riffage agimo! I definitely gotta get me another RAT again now! LOL!
@@russiangoose7053 Wowzers. I once owned a 1974 Ampeg 2x12 VT-22 combo. 120 watts. No master volume. It was freakin' "endangering indigenous wildlife" F'N LOUD! Hahah!
@@EasyHeat yeah I always hear even the combos are like standing by a jet engine 😂 he ran each one of his heads with their own V2 cabs, which are like two oversized and ported 2x12s attached together. They're as big as a 6x12, just the cab alone dwarfs a full Marshall half stack. I've really wanted to pick up an old Non Master V4 for a while since that's what he used, on top of hitting them all with an MXR Distortion Plus and a Super Distortion pickup in his Iceman. I would give anything to go back and witness the sheer volume and speed of one of their shows, there's one concert where it's a small venue and there's no real stage they're basically in the crowd and he's still got 3 half stacks going 😂 it's nothing but overwhelming volume and shrieking feedback, it's glorious.
I just found one at $2500 CAD, which is about $2000. I just ordered a Revv Generator 120 MK3 and bought a used Orange Rocker 30, otherwise I would have snapped it up. Guess I'll have to pass this time, I kinda want a first Gen anyway. I'll have to life with my Burning Sunn preamp from Ground FX, which is remarkably good.
@@Witchpit Hah. I don't know about that. It's a custom order and set me back $4600 CAD. I might lose quite a bit. Besides, they are amazing amps. Possibly one of the best modern amps on the market.
@@Witchpit Hah. I figured. Just bad timing. A bloody Laney Klipp came on the market at the same time. That's instant Iommi tone. The universe is cruel. Haha.
Awesome amp, overpriced by some sellers, but they're mega versatile & more than a one trick pony. I know a guy who uses a 1st gen for Jazz. I'm currently getting a 1st gen clone made here in the UK by Stoneham Amplification with Mercury Magnetics transformers, KT88s, 150w etc., its £1,750 or approximately $2,350 US and 1,950€. Which really ain't bad for a one off custom build. Build time is currently long given a global pandemic, Mercury Magnetics had temporarily stopped shipping out of the US for a few months, a one man builder and owner with a full time job having five or six amps to finish before my Model T build, so all things considered... It normally takes around two months to build his own amps. Plus, the T he's building me will have a switchable feature with regards to the output transformer, something that's a first for an amp as far as he knows of. When I chat with him again, I'm going to ask if he will make his own series of the Model T. I think he probably will, I do hope so. Keep up the cool work, man. All the very best.
Uh, they’re in no way versatile. They’re bespoke. They are oddities… weird tone. Not bad just way outside the common ethos. It’s more of a tone of effect and if you want something just for sake of going completely against the grain. It’s actually not necessary to spend so much on out of production rig’s just to stand out from the crowd. You’d be better off going through a company that sells kits to build yourself something like a sunn. Park is another example.
If you cam go ahead and look into the Super Model T drive.google.com/file/d/0Bxz1FYJfV118a3M5bElVTkpGZm8/view?usp=drivesdk I used to own this one. And there was at least one other amp like this.
@@Witchpit So you can try and look into it. That amp is a Transitional Colesium version. I think either someone put SUPER on it, maybe someone who was repairing those amps. If you want I have more pictures, but Kima Marazm owns this amp now, so he can provide pictures maybe at your request.
@@Witchpit I just looked into it. They start at a double stomp box sized dedicated pre at around 550 usd, there's a single or double rack space stereo pre at 700-1400 as well as 20-30 watt heads for the same price, and there's full head builds at 2400 but the wattage isn't disclosed... Allegedly, these are exact replicas. There's a couple of clips on UA-cam if you search for them but the company doesn't seem to have a whole lot of exposure.
I love doom, but let's be honest, the hype around the model t is silly. It's a cheaply made fender circuit that people put their fuzz pedal into. The prices are out of control because people think there's something special about them then when they get one they're disappointed to find out there's really nothing to the amp. Or at least I was, got back out of it okay, though.
@@Witchpit get yourself a BETA LEAD. Totally different from the T, does this super harsh distortion! red knob CONCERTs are rad too. You can still find them on craigs for decent cash if patient.
Just a loud mediocre sounding amp. Always has been. Happens to be a decent pedal platform for muffs and rats. There’s a hundred amps that can take a muff or a rat and c tuning and sound just like this. No magic. Just pedals.
This was awesome, Thomas! Great job.
Thank you brotha!!
This is a great video man!
Thank you so much brotha!!!
This might be the best/most cohesive video on the model T i've seen yet. Great job man!
Thank you so much! That was definitely goal!
In 1975 I bought a new 1st gen Model T with a 3-12” 6 ohm cabinet. Played a ‘73 SG Standard through an EHX LPB-1 into the middle input and cranked it. LOUD!
Hell yea!!!
How can you tell what the amp sounds like with pedals on?
This is my gripe, too. Literally no one demoes these amps properly, going through the amp by itself and all the settings and then maybe a short demo of some pedal in front of it in the end. Nice video, but it's esentially a pedal demo.
Great video. I have a first gen that I got around '74. 150 watts of loud. I used an MXR Distortion+ back in the day with the input gain turned up and controlled the overall volume (or tried to) with the master. Now I'm thinking of taking it out and seeing if the caps are okay.
Thank you!
Awesome job! Just liked and subscribed. This morning I ordered an Earthquaker Acapulco Gold V2 pedal but you've already got me thinking about one of those modern clone amps. Thanks for the great video!
Thank you!!!
So glad I was able to snatch one... such a relief
Yep , get them while u still can!
Great presentation and demonstration.
Thank you!!
Miss my coliseum 300 rig and my very first amp ..a Sunn tube bass head and Sunn 2x15 cab
It’s crazy how these things basically spawned a whole genre, and it was probably because they were in some dive of a rehearsal room, or a pawn shop, and then someone got baked, threw some fuzz at them, and realised the combo is magic.
So true!
Nah it aint the amp that spawned the genre, it was the band taking the name that helped push the genre fwds, taking over for sleep after they broke up around 98, sunn o came out same year and soon created a mystique that raised the profile of the amps, even tho they didnt sound like that. It's all an image, not a sound, they don't make a doom sound without pedals, just happen to make a good pedal platform, but many amps do too. Cool name and image nonetheless, but the amp all by itself just a pretty basic loud clean tube amp.
@@RocknJazzeryes. This. All the doom fanboys need something to cling to.
Really good info in this vid and all of the tones you got are LETHAL! Boosting a Rat is a guilty pleasure of mine for sure.
Killer vid, cheers!
Thank you so much!!
Thanks a lot now I want a model t again. But seriously great demo
Thank you! They re amazing amps
Nice one, great playing and brutal tones. Thanks.
I see Ceriatone have a Model T clone too.
Thank you!! Yes ive herd something about them making a clone??
@@Witchpit It's definitely on my wish list. I've got the Ceriatone '59 Bassman, it's a killer amp and does doom really well with a closeback orange 2x12.
@@LookingForEntertainment112 very nice!! Id like to play one!
Ceriatone made one as well and reasonably priced. And what a cool video!
Thank you
Awesome video man, great presentation. I loved how that muff sounded through your T. I have a 1st & 2nd gen and love them both. They are actually pretty different sounding amps tbh...both great amps
Thank you !!! Yes i want a 1st gen so baddddd.
@@Witchpit yeah man run a 1st & second gen in stereo and crush the world. They compliment each other very well. 2nd gen pushes the punchy mids, 1st gen kills it with lows and highs. Would sound killer through your orange cabs
@@barryhoobs1 o wow yea man thats make sense. Gotta get a 1st gen!!! I love running stereo.
Dude! Great job on the video and the tones were outstanding!!!!! About to do some recording with my 2nd gen and Dom with his 1st Gen. Can't wait to get it out!
Awesome man thank you !! Let me know when the tracks are finished!
@@Witchpit will do!!!
Killer vid man. Beem really curious about the model t and especially the micro
Thanks man!!
Loved this. Would love to hear all those fuzz’s and riffs through an OR-80 too!
Me too!! Maybe that will be next on the list🤔🤔🤔
7:46 sounds like Trap Them. Pretty sweet video.
Thank you!
The demo launched me flying 🔥
That was seriously fun to watch. Awesome sounds! Thanks man.
Thank you so much!
Such versatile amps!!! Great video brother, really loving the series!!! Super interesting history!!!🤘🏻🤘🏻
Thank you for the amazing sound!!
@@Witchpit My pleasure brother!!
It’s such a blast!!!!🤜🏻🤛🏻
shoutout to Kima from IIIVIIVIII aswell!
Should have mine soon))
Excellent video.
How do you rate the Acapulco Gold out of interest?
Honestly I've never played one, but I hear they're great.
Thank you!
IIIVIIVIII T's are looking rad af!
Ordered one a couple months back!! Cant wait to try it out, ill do a full demo.
@@Witchpit Did you order through their Facebook page?? If you don't mind me asking, how much are they charging for their amps?
@@barryhoobs1 i know the builder so i just ordered through him. Contact their fb page and hell get you setup. Tell him Thomas from Witchpit sent u.
@@Witchpit Cheers Thomas, thanks for the info. They look to be pretty dead on replicas of the original 1st gens. Are they based in the US?
@@barryhoobs1 yes he makes the most spot on clone of the Model T. Hes in Sweden
👏👏👏 Just Freakin’ Fantastic! Awesome video shoot, review, and tone demos! Excellent work on a pro-level video my dude 🤘🤘
Thank u man!!
All killer tones, but I think the Rat + Tube Screamer combo was the Brown Sound of the video for me 🎸💥😳
@@BigPurm84 i love that combo thats actually what i use in Witchpit now.
Great content😀!! Like how you present your video!!
Thank you!
uh this is a pedal demo, not amp demo
OK, but I've never heard a Muff sound like that through any other amp. They are known as a high headroom pedal platform for doom genres. To not put fuzz in front of it would be a fairly unpopular move. The clean tone isn't exactly anything special, it sounds like any big clean amp. Not much different to a Hiwatt, maybe a little less chime. A maxed out muff our rat pedal is where these things come into their own.
@@Patrick-857 ok, then this is for pedal guys, not guys like me that hate pedals, I plug straight into amps and crank them, whatever they may be...used to be old fenders + marshalls, now I use old oranges and hiwatts, all which have unique character all their own when cranked. I have never played a sunn so wanted to hear it's true character alone cranked no pedals. So far I dont think I'm missing much, might just be a generic big clean tight tone with little character to contribute of it's own probably being higher headroom than a hiwatt perhaps, and less totally interesting or versatile. Then the sunn hype must come from pedal guys looking for amps to optimize their pedals, which is not my thing but to each their own. @Patrick-857
@RocknJazzer He plays clean at the start. They are unique amps, but people mostly use them for that doom sound it would seem. Although the Melvins used the Beta Lead which is solid state.
@@Patrick-857 Yes clean on 3 just a generic. I just looked at the schematic, pretty basic, nothing that would create much character, maybe add a little medium splatty overdrive is about all I think it would do. Thing is when he adds the TS9 or muff, my 70s oranges and hiwatts can get and beat both those tones naturally without any pedals, and more organic bigger rawer. At one time I was a pedal guy, had those and more (hundreds as a collector/reseller) and what I hear the sunn doing to those pedals here so far is not much, maybe a little medium splatty drive. The schematic shows it as a basic low gain preamp section and tonestack into a high headroom power amp.
I used to have ampeg V9 and fender PS400 heads back in the day just for clean use (both used six 6550's running at about 700V plate voltage, putting out over 400W rms) and they were near impossible to get any harmonic overtones or overdrive out unless near maxed and were not pretty at that point, but had a big tight bottom and cutting top end, guess that is what pedal guys get sunns for, that little extra platform for support. The oranges and hiwatts have more character and overdrive when cranked w/o pedals than all the above amps, but to each their own.
How important is the rosewood fingerboard here?
2nd gen will be used on the next CVLL release.
What is the Serpent that is running into the Doomcaster? I’m not familiar with it.
Its basically a mini life pedal from a builder called The Zero Fret. Check him hes got a online store.
thezerofret.bigcartel.com/
Wow you’re so good! Man this makes me want to practice more!
Thank u!!
Killer killer killer... Can’t wait for the next one!
Awesome thank you
Incredible tones!
Thank u!
That background is threatening me with how loud it would be.
😂😂
Sounds like Crowbar
Great demo, learned a ton! Thx for this!!
Thanks for checking it out, subscribe if you can !!
Wasn't The Sunn Model T originally a Bass Head??? How did it end up as a GTR. Amp???
I'm not sure but I do know bass players do use them from time to time.
Any chance of keeping everything the same (reamping your playing through whatever pedals) into different amps so we can hear what the amp is imparting?
It’s hard to tell what this amp is doing with pedals that colour the sound as heavily as they do.
The amp has no gain if that's what you mean. That's what makes it such a great a pedal platform. It's loud and clean.
love your Works and preferences in amps!! 😉
btw.. the 2000s with dynaco transformers is my fav. ya need a pre though.. i use a digitech rp80... ya cheese... but it works!!! much better than my RP21d!!???
Thank you!
Crazy demo bro. Instant sub.
Thank you!
Fender is building Sunn amps...will be for sale by the end of 2023
Nice! Looking forward to the Micro T demo. 🤘
Thank you!!!
Best video on the model T. Sweet riffs
Thank you!
I have a 2nd gen model T i bought in '98 for $200. Replaced the tubes and power supply. Played it for years. It's collecting dust in my closet now. But this makes me wanna get it out and play it again. Great video!
Do it theyre great amps!! Thanks for watching!
Is there a way to reach you on facebook? I want to ask about your model T :)
@@Echo_III yes hit me up on fb
Great demo and very informative. If I have any criticism at all, it's that since the amp was never touched during the demo, it's more of a pedal demo. I would have liked to have heard what the amp itself can do with all those controls and midrange options. When the amp came out, Marshall was the king of the hill and this was supposed to fit into that mindset and what guitarists expected from a rock amp then. I would like to hear the range of tone the amp can do from clean to dirty with tone variations.
Honestly the amp on it's own isnt anything special...its loud and clean . That's why these things are the perfect pedal platform and the preferred to run them.
I suppose you could say the same of the Ampeg V4, Traynors and the Marshall Major. Or any big solid state amp, too?
@@fretts yea pretty much... just loud clean power.
Awesome! Can't wait for more.
Thank you, Micro T next!
Killer video dude!!
Thank you
I dig it. I just build a preamp based on the model T.
Very nice!!
Check out my demo on the micro T preamp/5watt amp
A Finnish electronics company called Uraltone sells a DIY kit of the first version if someone wishes to build one for themselves! Starts at 1000€ excluding the valves.
I built a first gen model T, I did it with 2 power tube section instead of a 4. It was still loud as hell lmao
Hell yea very nice!!
What’s the intro song?
Our song Rain God , we have a music video on the channel
Can someone play ANYTHING other than drone/doom with these amps???
O yea , check out Mutoid Man he plays a 1st gen.
@@Witchpit I'm asking because I'm interested but I don't wanna play doom/drone and I have haven't see anyone demoing these amps outside of these genres to hear what they would sound like.
@@tbsq1114 yea I mean honestly they are just really clean loud amps. On there own not much to really demo. That's why these amps make such good pedal platforms.
very useful video, thanks
No problem, thanks for checking it out.
Are the micro t available new somewhere?
Yes the email is in the description
Oops missed it. Thanks for this great video! Awesome info and playing!
@@garretthays97 no problem and thank you!
Damn the rat and tube screamer combo 🥵 and the sweedish death metal combo metal zone boosted
🤘🤘🤘
Why is it impossibly to find a video of these where there is just ONE clip with the gain and/or master maxed with no pedals? Why oh why will nobody do that?
It was a generally good demo, don’t get me wrong, it’s just that with the Model T in particular, nobody actually showcases the amp itself doing what you would assume it’s famous for.
Ceriatone makes a replica, hand wired by an electric engineer who went to college in the U.S.,for about half the $$$$. Located in Malaysia and ships worldwide.
we tried out a guy from Ada, Oklahoma named "BobCat" who hadda bunch of Sunn brand guitar and bass amps..
O very nice he lookin to sell anything?
That is an awesome sounding amp.
Makes me sad when i had the chance to snag one for $500 in 2005 when i see the prices now.
Pawn shop didn't know what they had at the time. Came back 2 weeks later and it was gone
O man , i know its crazy how cheap these were a few years ago....
I have a 1st generation model t,sunn concert controller 2,and sun speaker cabinet with 2 15" subs.all original i bought from a old man that used to do concerts.i also bought a 2 piece fender band master ab763 w/the 2 12".im looking to sell all this equipment. bandmaster
@@jaycruz2809 how much for the model t?
Is there an email i can send pictures to?i have other vintage sunn pieces also.great condition
@@jaycruz2809 r u on Facebook? Or Instagram
I was able to snag a reissue half stack for $1300. Deals are out there still, but they're getting harder to find
Yea thats a good deal, i remember seeing a reissue on reverb sometime last year that sold for like 3500??? Believe it was in Australia.
I found the first generation got it for 45 bucks in a small town on kentucky
@@deadheadbetty6663 wow!
Can’t wait!
Thank you
Loved it! Really dug the sound samples and the choice of pedals. All in 10/10 on that Video.
Can’t wait to get my hands on the 150 Watt IIIVIIVIII Amp.
Chris over at JPTR FX is also spot on with everything he does. Both great options. I would love for HEX to go full on production mode and start pumping out Hex Model T‘s but hey- who knows.
Awesome man thank you !!
I would love a IIIVIIVIII beautiful amps!
Jeez man what does the amp sound like?
@@brentstewart59 pretty clean and some might say boring , but stay tuned I'm shooting a new demo this weekend. 1st vs 2nd gen
Anybody ever tried the Jessup model T clone?
cheers!
I had the tube preamp v2 by Jessup and It was pretty well done and pretty close. That was back when they could be purchased for a few hundo, now they are closer to a grand.
I've always kinda dug the second gen more. The Ampeg V4 guitar amps also used 6550s. Because screw ears and small wildlife LOUD!! Haha!
Sick sludgy drenched riffage agimo!
I definitely gotta get me another RAT again now! LOL!
Thank you!
@@Witchpit de nadda
Doyle from the misfits ran three cranked V4 half stacks in the 80s I can't imagine one let alone 3 😂
@@russiangoose7053 Wowzers. I once owned a 1974 Ampeg 2x12 VT-22 combo. 120 watts. No master volume. It was freakin' "endangering indigenous wildlife" F'N LOUD! Hahah!
@@EasyHeat yeah I always hear even the combos are like standing by a jet engine 😂 he ran each one of his heads with their own V2 cabs, which are like two oversized and ported 2x12s attached together. They're as big as a 6x12, just the cab alone dwarfs a full Marshall half stack. I've really wanted to pick up an old Non Master V4 for a while since that's what he used, on top of hitting them all with an MXR Distortion Plus and a Super Distortion pickup in his Iceman. I would give anything to go back and witness the sheer volume and speed of one of their shows, there's one concert where it's a small venue and there's no real stage they're basically in the crowd and he's still got 3 half stacks going 😂 it's nothing but overwhelming volume and shrieking feedback, it's glorious.
I just found one at $2500 CAD, which is about $2000. I just ordered a Revv Generator 120 MK3 and bought a used Orange Rocker 30, otherwise I would have snapped it up. Guess I'll have to pass this time, I kinda want a first Gen anyway.
I'll have to life with my Burning Sunn preamp from Ground FX, which is remarkably good.
Aww man , sell the Rev and buy the SunnO)))) !!!
@@Witchpit Hah. I don't know about that. It's a custom order and set me back $4600 CAD. I might lose quite a bit. Besides, they are amazing amps. Possibly one of the best modern amps on the market.
@@Ed_Kaye o yea man just messin. the Revs are super nice amps.
@@Witchpit Hah. I figured. Just bad timing. A bloody Laney Klipp came on the market at the same time. That's instant Iommi tone. The universe is cruel. Haha.
@@Ed_Kaye aww man yea i hate when that happens...thanks for checkin out the video!
i feel like you shouldve demo'd the wet preamp circuit more instead of pedals. Any amp can be a pedal platform.
Theirs not much gain on these amps that's why they make good pedal platforms.
@@Witchpit damn. Sounds pretty overrated then imo. Prices just high cuz theres a band named after it.
Hell yeah dude
Rad video, thanks man
Thank you!
Check out also Ceriatone model T
Dude!! Nice
Big Muff sounds tough.
Thank you!
Now that they're over 4k how could anyone justify that?
I know right....got lucky and just found another 2nd gen for 3
@@Witchpit I cheaped out and bought a model fet pedal
I want one.
Absolutly lovely!
Hands down that is the greatest sounding guitar amp. Fender just reissue the fucker please
This video fucking slays. Thank you.
Awesomeness 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
Fuckyeah dude!!!! Great video.. that amp fukn rulz
Thank you!!!
sick riffs *hits subscribe*
also awesome gothenburg like tone with boss mh2 and dunwich tube screamer combo!
Awesome amp, overpriced by some sellers, but they're mega versatile & more than a one trick pony. I know a guy who uses a 1st gen for Jazz.
I'm currently getting a 1st gen clone made here in the UK by Stoneham Amplification with Mercury Magnetics transformers, KT88s, 150w etc., its £1,750 or approximately $2,350 US and 1,950€. Which really ain't bad for a one off custom build. Build time is currently long given a global pandemic, Mercury Magnetics had temporarily stopped shipping out of the US for a few months, a one man builder and owner with a full time job having five or six amps to finish before my Model T build, so all things considered... It normally takes around two months to build his own amps. Plus, the T he's building me will have a switchable feature with regards to the output transformer, something that's a first for an amp as far as he knows of.
When I chat with him again, I'm going to ask if he will make his own series of the Model T. I think he probably will, I do hope so.
Keep up the cool work, man. All the very best.
Hey man thank you for checking out the video and the kind words. Im definitely interested in the Stoneham let me know when you get yours!!
Uh, they’re in no way versatile. They’re bespoke. They are oddities… weird tone. Not bad just way outside the common ethos. It’s more of a tone of effect and if you want something just for sake of going completely against the grain. It’s actually not necessary to spend so much on out of production rig’s just to stand out from the crowd. You’d be better off going through a company that sells kits to build yourself something like a sunn.
Park is another example.
If you cam go ahead and look into the Super Model T drive.google.com/file/d/0Bxz1FYJfV118a3M5bElVTkpGZm8/view?usp=drivesdk
I used to own this one. And there was at least one other amp like this.
O wow!
@@Witchpit This is exactly my amp now. The prototype one I've send you picture of, Thomas :)
@@Witchpit So you can try and look into it. That amp is a Transitional Colesium version. I think either someone put SUPER on it, maybe someone who was repairing those amps. If you want I have more pictures, but Kima Marazm owns this amp now, so he can provide pictures maybe at your request.
@@kuperslayer o yes hes showed it to me, he helped me out tremendously with this video.
There's a preamp made by Jessup, no?
Not sure on the preamp?
@@Witchpit I just looked into it. They start at a double stomp box sized dedicated pre at around 550 usd, there's a single or double rack space stereo pre at 700-1400 as well as 20-30 watt heads for the same price, and there's full head builds at 2400 but the wattage isn't disclosed... Allegedly, these are exact replicas. There's a couple of clips on UA-cam if you search for them but the company doesn't seem to have a whole lot of exposure.
@@cloverfield23666 ok cool man
Join the Sunn amp owners group on FB and search Jessup for the horror stories about those clones and the guy who makes em
I love doom, but let's be honest, the hype around the model t is silly. It's a cheaply made fender circuit that people put their fuzz pedal into. The prices are out of control because people think there's something special about them then when they get one they're disappointed to find out there's really nothing to the amp. Or at least I was, got back out of it okay, though.
underwhelming amps until dimed... then they do this roar that nothing else captures. huge plate voltages? think Ben Verellen makes a clone.
Yea exactly theres just a dark, rich roar these amps put out. Love them, just need a 1st gen now!
@@Witchpit get yourself a BETA LEAD. Totally different from the T, does this super harsh distortion! red knob CONCERTs are rad too. You can still find them on craigs for decent cash if patient.
@@R1GAMBLER o yea i know all about those, actually just sold my beta a couple of months ago to get the Micro T.
Just a loud mediocre sounding amp. Always has been. Happens to be a decent pedal platform for muffs and rats. There’s a hundred amps that can take a muff or a rat and c tuning and sound just like this. No magic. Just pedals.
If you want the T sound on a budget, the Correct Sound MT pedal brings the doom for less than $400.