You can read the book - I have a pair of Sunn 1200S/Fender Bassman 1200 that got busted to fuck in shipping and I was able to get the schematics and service info for them right off Fender's old Sunn archive site. Also, I grew up where a few miles down a backroad and you were literally at the Tualatin Oregon site...when they were building them lol (born in '66)
UPDATE: the last known cache of the old fender support site that had LITERALLY EVERYTHING FROM LEGACY BRANDS on it happened at Jan 26 2021 according to the wayback machine. The pages are there, but all the PDF service docs and manuals are NOT cached, for obvious reasons (they're huge binaries and archive dot org isn't a file service) I am glad I got weird a while back and just started downloading everything I was interested in from the site. I've got a bunch of random service docs if anyone has sun stuff they want to fix but I am 50/50 that I have an actual schematic to an original Sunn Model T. It looks like FMIC made an infrastructure switch and whoever updated their site to the new system and site mapping completely left out legacy brands. You can get a tube count on the 1200S because that was the Fender Bassman Pro 1200, rev 1. There was a whole new line with some DNA in it, silver grating in the front instead of black panel. :-) Point being, if you have a legacy brand that migrated into an actual FMIC branded product, you might find some service data. Otherwise, that ship didn't sail, it was sunk to challenger deep...pruned, with no prejudice. Just dumped. That's a LOT of historic technology flushed down the ol /dev/null crapper
@@russellzauner Fender bought sunn in 1985 and did cabinets and heads and other stuff as it was in Hartzell era. Than it went to sleep in the early 90s. After that in 1997-1998 they decided to release the new heads and cabinets with Fender twist to it. So model T, 300T, 1200S, 412, 115 and 410 cabinets were introduced. Two years later T50C (50W Fender model T in combo and reverb) came to life and additional 112 cabinet. And then in 2002 after only 4 years of doing something to the brand, Fender killed it for good. *more deleted because*
Yeah, I really don't understand why they haven't cashed in on sunn in recent years. Despite fender amps being built like crap nowadays, I'd likely buy one.
I know "less volume" isn't really a JPTR FX thing, but I think a half-power switch or something like the headroom/bedroom switch that Orange does, would be cool. I have a feeling that i could never run this in my flat.
@@LosTroopos half power would be like 75 watts which is basically a twin almost lmao, I actually doubt there would be much difference in the volume level. But I wish there was a way as well
What a monster! Wino from The Obsessed/Spirit Caravan/about a million other bands is one of my all time favourite guitarists so the Model T sound is one really close to my heart. Sounds like JPTR FX absolutely nailed it!
yeah but Wino completely modified his model T. Svetlana 6550 power tubes and EHX preamp tubes. Jug Fulla Sun has the most natural sounding fuzz I've ever heard. Ascending tone.
God I wish someone would do a proper plugin version of this. The Model T and its clones are cartoonishly expensive, not that I would really be able to use one in my apartment to begin with.
Ned Clayton makes a 5w version that ties in pre and power tubes in the line out. Look up Hex Micro T or rectangular Micro T. Pretty amazing little amp especially if you need something for practice/recording but also want to run it out to a larger power amp for live situations.
Great video dude! Thanks for doing my man Chris Jupiter @JPTR FX a solid with a killer demo. I love that guy. He’s one of the coolest dudes in the business. And by the way, great track and great solo! Much different sounding from what I’m used to hear in on your channel.
I really love the enthusisam in that video! And hey, Fluff, love how you still rock the standing playing as in your old videos. 10timescooler than most other youtube guitar performers in a gaming chair. Keep it up!
Oh man! I've been waiting on you to release the demo of this amp since Jupiter's teaser photo's. The Model T is possibly one of my favorite amps of the Stoner/Doom genre, and Chris is such a super cool guy. Holy Cow! Most impressive indeed. Currently waaay out of my personal gear budget, but openly pondering what donating a kidney could fetch on the Dark Web?! Awesome demo as always Fluff, and I especially appreciate you going over as many of it's practical applications. You definitely did Chris an honest and well deserved praise with this one. Very freakin' cool.
Wow......Sunn Lives......Love the Gibson RD Artist also. Know a friend who had three of them. Great guitars. Wonder how this amp sounds with a Bass guitar.
Finally someone to put the loop jacks on the front! Just don't understand why send is left and return is right when fx pedals have their input jacks right and their output jacks left.
could also depend on which way you face your pedal. do you leave it at the edge of the stage near the mics facing the stage, or do you flip it backwards and leave it at the foot of the cabinet facing the crowd. .
Fluff I feel the like you mentioned a Rat just for me. I really want to get my hands on one of these to try. I’d love to pair it with my Matamp and get loud.
Several years ago, a friend of mine partnered up with a legit amp builder in the hopes of purchasing Sunn from Fender. They used my old raggedy Model T (which had actually previously been owned by Clutch and used on the Robot Hive/Exodus album:) and schematics to make a 50 watt prototype to present to Fender (as per their requirements). Fender approved of the design and it all boiled down to money.....waaaaaay too much money. RIP Sunn :((ooo)))))))
I own and love an old Sunn Model T. This amp nails it. If my model T were stolen or something I'd absolutely buy one of these. Easier to find and honestly, given the current market, cheaper than an original.
Remember that Sunn came into existence because existing amps could not blast through the trees. We needed to make some *power* to be heard, and so it was. LOUD in the forest.
Hey Fluff could you make another video of this amp showing off its own overdrive? I know your not really a doom guy but maybe a sludgy riff thrown in for good measure?
Start with your legs shoulder width apart, have the amp in between, clean and jerk, and you got it, once its in the air above your head start running to the drop off location and ... ya you cant really drop it... sorry i didnt think this all the way through. Oh I know - have a gym mat ready there, clean and jerk and run and drop. Clean and jerk and run and drop, clean and jerk and run and drop, get a good rhythm and you got that amp moved no problems.
Ohmmacht Godt! That.sounds.awesome! So creamy yet growly. Also, Fluff, please please please buy or review a Carstens Grace (Billy Corgan Signature) amp so we can all live vicariously.
Meanwhile, Fender just sitting on the whole Sunn brand like an old book under grandpa's tv stand.
Seriously. And people stop paying top dollar for that later Fender Model T reissue that's just a red knob Twin in a different box.
You can read the book - I have a pair of Sunn 1200S/Fender Bassman 1200 that got busted to fuck in shipping and I was able to get the schematics and service info for them right off Fender's old Sunn archive site.
Also, I grew up where a few miles down a backroad and you were literally at the Tualatin Oregon site...when they were building them lol (born in '66)
UPDATE: the last known cache of the old fender support site that had LITERALLY EVERYTHING FROM LEGACY BRANDS on it happened at Jan 26 2021 according to the wayback machine. The pages are there, but all the PDF service docs and manuals are NOT cached, for obvious reasons (they're huge binaries and archive dot org isn't a file service)
I am glad I got weird a while back and just started downloading everything I was interested in from the site. I've got a bunch of random service docs if anyone has sun stuff they want to fix but I am 50/50 that I have an actual schematic to an original Sunn Model T.
It looks like FMIC made an infrastructure switch and whoever updated their site to the new system and site mapping completely left out legacy brands. You can get a tube count on the 1200S because that was the Fender Bassman Pro 1200, rev 1. There was a whole new line with some DNA in it, silver grating in the front instead of black panel. :-)
Point being, if you have a legacy brand that migrated into an actual FMIC branded product, you might find some service data. Otherwise, that ship didn't sail, it was sunk to challenger deep...pruned, with no prejudice. Just dumped.
That's a LOT of historic technology flushed down the ol /dev/null crapper
@@russellzauner Fender bought sunn in 1985 and did cabinets and heads and other stuff as it was in Hartzell era. Than it went to sleep in the early 90s. After that in 1997-1998 they decided to release the new heads and cabinets with Fender twist to it. So model T, 300T, 1200S, 412, 115 and 410 cabinets were introduced. Two years later T50C (50W Fender model T in combo and reverb) came to life and additional 112 cabinet.
And then in 2002 after only 4 years of doing something to the brand, Fender killed it for good.
*more deleted because*
Yeah, I really don't understand why they haven't cashed in on sunn in recent years. Despite fender amps being built like crap nowadays, I'd likely buy one.
Fluff is a man who has played/ and owned Peavey amps, if he says this is THE heaviest amp he's picked up, I believe him
Trve
Fluff playing an actual solo! Amazing tone.
🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
Sounds glorious! Chris is a genius for putting the effects loop directly underneath the front-end inputs.
That sounds doooooope!
Just let me know rabea just let me know
@@JPTRFX 😂
You know Fluff loves an amp when he plays lead lol!
Wow!
I know "less volume" isn't really a JPTR FX thing, but I think a half-power switch or something like the headroom/bedroom switch that Orange does, would be cool.
I have a feeling that i could never run this in my flat.
@@LosTroopos its not designed to run in a flat at all
@@LosTroopos half power would be like 75 watts which is basically a twin almost lmao, I actually doubt there would be much difference in the volume level. But I wish there was a way as well
that first demo song made me grow a flannel shirt on my back
That might be the best sounding amp I’ve ever heard.
dude, that little song is the best thing and the best tone i´ve heard in years
First note played and I must say this is the best tone I have heard in your channel yet! It is so smooth! Great purchase!
What a monster!
Wino from The Obsessed/Spirit Caravan/about a million other bands is one of my all time favourite guitarists so the Model T sound is one really close to my heart.
Sounds like JPTR FX absolutely nailed it!
yeah but Wino completely modified his model T. Svetlana 6550 power tubes and EHX preamp tubes. Jug Fulla Sun has the most natural sounding fuzz I've ever heard. Ascending tone.
God I wish someone would do a proper plugin version of this. The Model T and its clones are cartoonishly expensive, not that I would really be able to use one in my apartment to begin with.
Can you imagine like a SUNN O))) suite from Neural DSP or something? A man can dream...
@@fumaani I know right? Been dreaming of that for a while.
@@fumaani I'd probably just throw money at the screen if that happened.
Ned Clayton makes a 5w version that ties in pre and power tubes in the line out. Look up Hex Micro T or rectangular Micro T. Pretty amazing little amp especially if you need something for practice/recording but also want to run it out to a larger power amp for live situations.
I believe Amplitube has a model of it. IIRC it's in the Jimi Hendrix pack?
Great video dude! Thanks for doing my man Chris Jupiter @JPTR FX a solid with a killer demo. I love that guy. He’s one of the coolest dudes in the business. And by the way, great track and great solo! Much different sounding from what I’m used to hear in on your channel.
I got goosebumps when you said it was a shoegazers dream. This is definitely an amp I would consider getting thanks for the great content
FX loop on the front panel: BRAVO!
This is exactly the sound I've been looking for
Wicked! love it in the full mix!
Man, I keep coming back to this vid just for the mix. Fluff may have really found something with his tone in this one. I hope he does more with it.
This is such a great amp. I am glad it landed in your hands dude!
I was pretty suprised how good that DOD sounded with that amp.
Whoa the effects loop in the front is a game changer!
That tone and playing through the RD just made me grin like crazy. That's what I'm talking about.
Frick yeah! JPTR is the next big thing
Here is hoping for a full Fluff Stoner Rock EP.
I really love the enthusisam in that video! And hey, Fluff, love how you still rock the standing playing as in your old videos. 10timescooler than most other youtube guitar performers in a gaming chair. Keep it up!
Some of the best sounds I have heard you get man. Great track dude.
Creamy and gooiest drive. Did you just add GOOIEST to our gear vernacular? Love that. That amp is sick.
3:38 sick riffs and tone
Wow. First off I loved today’s mix, second, the amp was killing it.
Dude when you turned on the OCD the bass on my sound system started bounce. BTW this amp sounds great! DOOM MACHINE!
I was more impressed with the Boss Reverb pedal than I was the amp.
I kind of sh*t myself when you mentioned the price - I thought it was going to be much higher.
Especially since the Sunn's sell used for around there in the US. Very reasonable.
really like the looks of that RD. i've played everything, i thought, but never an RD.
If you have 'Ohnmacht' it means you have fainted! Must be a beast.....🎸🤘
Very interesting & pleasing distortion on this one. Thanks for the demo Fluff 💯
Dang, that sounded amazing.
Made in 26382 Wilhelmshaven - Germany. Thats my hometown. ❤️
I've been waiting for a while for this video to finally drop. Certified dream amp right there. Hope I can get one for myself one day.
That Big Muff Sunn T tone... HOLY SCHNIKES so good, so thick, so rifftastic!
Wow dude, sick riffs. Even sicker Amp!
Great Video. Now Please get a Rat pedal and make a Doom/Drone Video ;)
Commenting before i watch... Gonna need huge sludge stoner dooom riffs!!
thank you so much for showing us guitar gear heads what is available out there-love your channel
Always loving your clean sound !
And this amp is really amazing dude
Oh yeah. Been wanting this since I played the prototype at 42 Gear Street. Want want want.
Oh man! I've been waiting on you to release the demo of this amp since Jupiter's teaser photo's. The Model T is possibly one of my favorite amps of the Stoner/Doom genre, and Chris is such a super cool guy.
Holy Cow! Most impressive indeed. Currently waaay out of my personal gear budget, but openly pondering what donating a kidney could fetch on the Dark Web?!
Awesome demo as always Fluff, and I especially appreciate you going over as many of it's practical applications. You definitely did Chris an honest and well deserved praise with this one.
Very freakin' cool.
Oh man! Tones for daysss! Great demo Fluff!
1 of 2 amps you've had on here that I just looked at and said I need that in my life the other was a Revolt Plexnstien witch I now own
Wow......Sunn Lives......Love the Gibson RD Artist also. Know a friend who had three of them. Great guitars. Wonder how this amp sounds with a Bass guitar.
Finally someone to put the loop jacks on the front! Just don't understand why send is left and return is right when fx pedals have their input jacks right and their output jacks left.
could also depend on which way you face your pedal. do you leave it at the edge of the stage near the mics facing the stage, or do you flip it backwards and leave it at the foot of the cabinet facing the crowd. .
@@666thsense good point. Haven't thought of that
The Fuzz tones from this amp sound really nice.
Hell yeah! Been waiting for these stoner riffs from you for years, Fluff.
tbh i liked the clean tone the most!
Great sound! Well done, sir!
What the Fluff is really goin on !! 🤘🎸🤘
Play this way... this is the best sound! 😍😍😍
I love anything JPTR FX! Pedals are amazing.🐲
I thought I wanted a Friedman JJ-100, but here we are.
"In the mix" tone was the SCHNIZ!
Finallly this amp is reviewed!
Oh I've been waiting for this :D
Fluff I feel the like you mentioned a Rat just for me. I really want to get my hands on one of these to try. I’d love to pair it with my Matamp and get loud.
Really enjoyed this one fluff 🤘🏻🤘🏻
God damn now I really want to hear a Fluff stoner rock album!
Super Distortion was my first pedal, ever.
Whoa!🤘🤘 Seriously rad amp!
Several years ago, a friend of mine partnered up with a legit amp builder in the hopes of purchasing Sunn from Fender. They used my old raggedy Model T (which had actually previously been owned by Clutch and used on the Robot Hive/Exodus album:) and schematics to make a 50 watt prototype to present to Fender (as per their requirements). Fender approved of the design and it all boiled down to money.....waaaaaay too much money. RIP Sunn :((ooo)))))))
Chris rules!
I'm excited to snag one of these soon!
Wow, this amp sounds awesome! Big, fat and dangerous. I love it. Thanks for the review!
I own and love an old Sunn Model T. This amp nails it. If my model T were stolen or something I'd absolutely buy one of these. Easier to find and honestly, given the current market, cheaper than an original.
Danke!
$2500 euros??
You need to make this a whole song then make a whole album of this
This sounds sick!!!
That tone is thick af. I really want to hear some riffs with the neck pickup for that really meaty sound.
Dayum!! Dream amp right there.
Sounds awesome !!
if the mix is just straight in using the amp gain, thats awesome.
Replacing those KT88's is going to hurt the pocketbook. But I love the sound of them. I had a 200 watt Marshall Major back in the day .
Every 4 years 200 euros but 4 years of full volume
This thing would be amazing for sludge, doom, and shoegaze. Can't afford it, but I want it. 😁
Remember that Sunn came into existence because existing amps could not blast through the trees. We needed to make some *power* to be heard, and so it was.
LOUD in the forest.
C’mon Fluff, you know you wanna dime that thing...
That demo song was fuckin awesome, and so was the tone
That is one of hte nicest sounding amps I've heard in a dogs age. Wow :)
7:47 left side of the table - ghost???
The Construction 👌👌👌👌
Sounds like a damn dream. Love it.
What 4x12 cab and speakers would you be most inclined to match up with this amp?
The bigger the better
F**k. Imma have to buy one of these now. It sounds sooo good!
Wow, That tone, sound all of it is so FN perfect, how much do these Cost Fluff???????
Big Muff Opamp but with reverb before de fuzz
Hey Fluff could you make another video of this amp showing off its own overdrive? I know your not really a doom guy but maybe a sludgy riff thrown in for good measure?
That does sound great!!!
Fernweh is one of my favs.
Start with your legs shoulder width apart, have the amp in between, clean and jerk, and you got it, once its in the air above your head start running to the drop off location and ... ya you cant really drop it... sorry i didnt think this all the way through. Oh I know - have a gym mat ready there, clean and jerk and run and drop. Clean and jerk and run and drop, clean and jerk and run and drop, get a good rhythm and you got that amp moved no problems.
This thing is a beast!
I was hoping to hear that Warm Audio fuzz! cool amp.
Man that sounds soooooo good
You had me at KT88's.
Ohmmacht Godt!
That.sounds.awesome!
So creamy yet growly.
Also, Fluff, please please please buy or review a Carstens Grace (Billy Corgan Signature) amp so we can all live vicariously.