Juggernaut driver road test / Coleman CT200U minibike / top speed
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- Опубліковано 18 жов 2024
- Juggernaut driver road test / Coleman CT200U minibike / top speed
Installed as Juggernaut driver on the Colewmna CT200U minibike 196cc engine to see if it would outperform the standard 30 series driver/ torque converter.
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Standard 30 series torque converter - www.ebay.com/i...
Juggernaut driver - www.gopowerspo...
Riser plate - www.ebay.com/i...
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This is a good set up for a lower horsepower bike. Makes it feel like it has more power than it does. I tried a TQ with a juggernaught on my 20 hp drag bike and hot damn it's super quick off the line. Wheelies like crazy! It will make it quicker too 300 feet but it starts to slip too much at high speed. My bike will get into the high 70's with a conventional clutch, but will only hit 57 with the TQ/juggernaught set up. belt is shredded in 3 passes. Thanks for the videos btw. good job!
Thanks! I hear ya. These converters just don’t handle a lot of power very well. Good for lower power applications The converter is good on this bike for trail riding and stuff like that.
I also tried one on my drag bike and basically got the same results bike would not go over 62 mph but the launch will slap your cheeks to the back of your head I can also smell the belt burning when I launch only made a few passes before I but the 3 disc back on
I was driving my little modded coleman around my neighborhood and the Greenwood Indiana police came and pulled infront of me and jumped out and surrounded me like I was some hardened criminal. I am the president of my home owners association and I was just checking everything out, and it was very embarrassing! The police said I couldn't drive it without a plate because the neighborhood roads belonged to them???!!!??? They threatened to impound my coleman, so I just sucked it up and went straight home. I was less than a quarter mile from me house. It was the dumbest waist of police resources I believe I have ever seen in my life!!
Good thing you didn't have your dog with you , he'd be shot to death.🤧
Now you know how the residents feel when you police them
@@FartOnBoobies I don't ever police my residents. In fact, my residents give me crap because I don't get on people enough, that's why I have to drive around and appear to be checking things out. It's a volunteer job and honestly, it sucks. People damn me if I do and damn me if I don't. Folks just love to hate, but it's all good, someone has to assume to position, even if sometimes the position often times feels like being bent over while people kick my asshole. Ironically , I didn't ask for the position, the residents requested me.
@hustleeveryday5852 oh damn. I personally don't live in HOA but I have friends who do and they tell me all the time how they feel like they're living under a thumb. My apologies brother 🙏
I like how you POP everything Apart and Together. Funnier than heck. lol
Love the video keep on the hard work 💙💙💙💙
Thanks !
Thanks for posting,now I know when my 12 year old asks for a torque converter for his mini bike to say no
Check out the playlists for many more videos on the Coleman bikes and others.
cant wait to put my juggernaut clutch on when I get home from college
Very informative, thank you for sharing. I'm building mine soon
Thanks !
Nice mini bike 👍.
Nice video man! I'm in the process of fixing mine up also. In the future in going to put a 212r on.
Thanks! I put a 212 on the other one that I have. It runs really good!
Can you put the driven spring in the tightest hole and see what difference that makes?
I have a Baja warrior full-size minibike and it doesn’t have the plate system on there to fit the juggernaut it’s just a centrifugal clutch
You need a driver driven , a 30 series torque converter for the Juggernaut.
@@Black66 kk
Torque converter
you should make a video on how to adjust it, it would be helpful
Hey did you have any problems with your chain not lining up correctly on your torque converter to the back sprocket? I just got a new predator engine and I got the rising plate like you but it won't line up right.
No problems. Check out the Coleman playlist for the entire build. ua-cam.com/video/ZFLSbnoH59g/v-deo.html
@@Black66 thank you
my birthday is on Saturday and I want one of these things so badly
Bro same except my bday is not on Saturday
Sameee! I been workin on getting my money up!
My bday not on Saturday tho
Here's what has me and my buddy stumped right now. we have the same setup you do but pre-juggernaut. We had just installed these torque converters but before the torque converter install I was hitting 50 mph with an 11 tooth on the jackshaft and 40 tooth rear. After torque converter install, I'm topping out at 38mph now.. doesn't make sense
Dude I have the same issue, Ct200U ex with the 212 swap and gov delete. Hit 50mph with the stock 30 series torque converter driver. Put the jugg on and im hittng 35mph but revving up to 5k rpm... Just today I decided to but the mod 2 cam, 18lb springs, vm22 carb, billet connection rod and billet flywheel in hopes of getting the jugg to open up a bit more and use the higher rpm my engine should produce, right? Nope. Idk if its my jetting or what. Seems to run smooth with no break ups, but going from a 125 to a 130 jet starts making the bike break up. I'm pretty lost atm.
I thought originally it was a belt issue. I double checked to make sure everything was aligned correctly, which it is. I had purchased a new upgraded belt that seem to work a little better but it still feels very stiff when trying to roll it on the ground. I know a little stiff is normal but this is excessive and I feel it's bogging my top speed down. Nothing in the rear has changed and as soon as I take the belt off I have perfect free roll again and everything is fine so it's not the wheel axle or the brake assembly. I'm just getting extra resistance from somewhere on the belt and I'm not sure why..
@@R1CEBWL so yesterday I finished building up my engine. Happy to report that dropping a mod 2 cam, 18lb springs, Billet Flywheel and Rod gets me up to 55mph with the juggernaut. Revving to 6200 (on the street) with 3 psi in the rear tire. Lots of torque for offroading and plenty of top end for onroad.
what sprocket you running at tourque converter and rear?
What moss did you have on the motor ?
Did you ever have to do the valve lash with the govenor removal, vm22, and tc installs? How much did you invest total in this 196 engine. Thinking of doing the same
No, I don't mess with the valve lash with the governor removal, carb and stuff. The price isn't too bad. I think it was around $50 for the carb kit and $60 or 70 for the converter and around $30 for the header pipe. I added the parts list in the description on some of the Coleman videos.
Did you remove the govenor but not have to replace the valve springs? Also I will make a parts list of the things you used. You didn’t use an7 degrees flywheelnpiece right? Also did you use the regular self tapping screw’s you used for the 212 govenor removal. Thanks again and I will report out how it works. I followed your video of the tillotson govenor removal and it worked great on our tillotson.
@@TheBiliken No, on the 196cc the springs where good enough to support the mild mods on the engine. Although springs are a good investment for the price and won't hurt . I use a 1/4×20 Allen button head screw with some Loctite or RTV for the governor arm hole and the press in shaft hole
If you watch this short playlist, it shows step by step what I did to the bike. I would answer your question directly, but I do so many videos and parts swaps it's hard for me to remember the exact set up in a given video. The parts I used are in the description of the videos'. Here is the playlist ua-cam.com/video/ZFLSbnoH59g/v-deo.html
Love the Vids bro!!! Keep em comin!!! So I have a question. 1.)Does a Gov. bypass (zip tie/hole on Gov. arm) produce the same outcome as actually removing the entire Gov. assembly?
2.) Can u do a vid on some 18 lb spring swaps? (Not sure if u already covered this, but If so, sorry:)
T.I.A!!!!!
Thanks! The zip tie will work, but it's better if you can remove the entire governor assembly including the nylon wheel inside the engine. I have never had one come apart but it could.
I have a video coming out in October on the springs
Do you remember the sprocket sizes with this? seems like a good place to start with mine
It had the stock 50 on the back. Check out this playlist. We tried many different combos ua-cam.com/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/v-deo.html
I Just bought a juggernaut torque converter for my Tillerson 212 stage 1 on my baja warrior frame . I road my bike yesterday it for about 30 minutes I cut it off .now the the pull cord want pull can anyone help me. ?
I have a similar setup on my 200u-ex and get 59.5 mph. I’m really after power for off road use.
Check out the Coleman playlist. It shows quite a few different combos with the Colman bikes. ua-cam.com/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/v-deo.html
Same but I got 56 mph
Does the same bolt from the previous torque converter fit through this
What app are you using on your phone for the speedometer?
It had the black 40t sprocket on back ?
Check out the CT200U playlist. It shows all the mods on this bike. ua-cam.com/video/ZFLSbnoH59g/v-deo.html
Do you know/recommend any brakes for the ct 200
EBC 304G ~$20-25 on Amazon
Have you ever tried the tourqe-zilla???
Not yet.
I put a predator 212 on my CT 200 u ex and straight chained it and it did 56 mph
Awesome! Check out the CT200U-EX playlist for some straight chain videos and other combos with the Coleman bike ua-cam.com/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/v-deo.html
Hello can you please review the Coleman ut550 utv at tractor supply???
Ya, I might do that. Maybe even do an engine swap
@@Black66 okay awesome can you please make that video soon???
@@jacklowe4907 possibly.
@@Black66 okay thanks so much I look forward to seeing this video in the next few weeks!
@@jacklowe4907 Can’t do it . My tractor supply here in Nevada hasn’t ordered one yet 😳
OMG you gotta get the Stig next to match the board
What is the adapter called
Are you talking the engine mount?
Do you really need the converter ?
Not really. It runs fine with the Jackshaft. I like testing different combinations.
What size sprocket do u have on the wheel
40, Check out the video playlist on this bike.ua-cam.com/video/ZFLSbnoH59g/v-deo.html
do you not run the brass idle ring with juggernaut?
No
thanks man! I went with the same nibbi carb you had with vm22 intake but did u have a video on how to make the throttle cable to fit that carb style????
at your max speed what was the rpm
I would tell you but After almost 400 mini bike videos on the channel its hard to remember a given video. The bike was running a 40 tooth rear sprocket and an unknown driven sprocket.
Speed calc says 5K RPM.
@@Deucealive75 In these earlier videos I was swapping gears on driven and the 40 tooth rear sprocket. The Gearing wasn't stock. Cant remember the exact gearing.
@@Black66 I assumed 10/40 sprockets. Sorry.
faster then my 80cc fsho
Your 80cc frame is sweet!
What all done to your bike ?
If you check out the playlist for this bike , that’s pretty much it for this bike so far .
I know where you live...
Why haven't you visited?
@Black66 can you help my juggernaut torque converter is stuck on my tilly 212 plsss
What cam goes well with the juggernaut driver???
265 cam works fantastic with the juggernaut.
I have a video coming out on this.
I have quite a few videos on the CT200U-EX
check out this playlist ua-cam.com/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/v-deo.html
@@Black66 is that the 265 Super Man cam?
@@lingyguisar4149 Yes it is
@@Black66 have you ever ran that cam with 26lb springs?
@@lingyguisar4149 No, so far just 22.
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