Milwaukee 2953 Gen 4 M18 FUEL Impact Driver Review
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- Опубліковано 1 сер 2022
- Our first look at these @MilwaukeeTool Gen 4 Hammer Drill (2904) and Impact Drivers (2953) were at the PIPELINE event just a month ago. We finally received the tool in hand and we pushed them straight into testing. This video sticks to testing the Gen 4 Milwaukee 2953 M18 FUEL 1/4" hex impact driver, but don't miss the Hammer Drill/Driver review as well. This impact driver keeps them in the driver's seat in the performance arena. We broke free some really tight fasteners. The Tri-LED design is also a great addition. These should start hitting the store shelves in August 2022.
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Its amazing how quickly Milwaukee and other brands are cranking out new power tool models and improving on older models. Nice review. Thanks!
It's been 4 years.
What a review! Thorough and layman... I love a good bottom liner review
i like the 3 lights but will be getting the new m12 fuel one once its on shelfs.
great review as always
Drill- Packedge in typical box, came with a tool bag (added bonus), two batteries, one charger, drill, and driver. Two words "plenty of Torque" ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxW1vOBRCMrgTCDEijzpVzDWsgI-Jm2iQv well I guess that's three. Nice upgrade from current setup. Has belt clips, I don't think I will be using those. Driver and drill were bigger than what I expected but it is an upgrade from the current setup. For the money I would say that this is a great setup for Professionals and DIY/Weekend warriors.
Great review. I just bought the kit with the gen 4 hammer/drill.
Im impressed. I love my Dewalt DCF850 impact driver for its power and compact size. I'm looking forward to using this!
I have the Milwaukee Gen 4 M18 and LOVE it. It's the most powerful Stubby drill you can get plus Tri-led, 4 speeds and very lightweight. Very hard to find just walking in a store and won't be on display either. Easy to find on-line. All the guys at work are jealous!!
Same here, I work in the electrical field, I’m pretty new to it but I’ve always been a Dewalt guy. The crew I work with introduced me to Milwaukee and I just had to convert. Got this drill just yesterday, my cousin, who is also working in our crew has one and everyone is jealous
Awesome job as always! 👍
Thank you! Cheers!
You're the best. You give the part numbers and then the kit number.
This isn’t just a testament to the quality of Milwaukee tools, but the strength of the shockwave adapters as well.
I’d love to see what it can do with the 6 amp battery that has the 21700 cells.
Great video! Watching this helped me make the decision to buy this impact gun!! 😊
Omg that is nuts imagine if you had the 6.0 ah ho battery on it. That adapter is also unbelievable.
Not bad! Curious if you'll consider redoing Flex with 3.5 and 6.0 stacked batteries.
Any comments on the Gen 4 trigger after all the hoopla from Milwaukee?
Now THAT is very impressive!!! There’s not a doubt in my mind that it being able to handle work like this it can handle my carpentry no problem whatsoever! This just sold the deal for me 100%
Great video. And yes, I was wondering if I could replace my Milwaukee impact wrench with this driver. I will keep bringing my impact wrench on my 4x4 trips then. Thanks for the knowledge.
Looking forward to the new m12 reviews
Does the new M12 impact, have the one handed chuck?
Great review!!
What temp gun was that??
Great video powerful tool. Can you perform this same test with the Kobalt xtr impact driver?
Awesome tool rated 167.7 but to do 550 to test that is amazing awesome, I have this tool and the hammer drill kit awesome price at Amazon about 300.00 dollars great deal , The impact definitely shows its extremely powerful great tool have
you forgot to mention a FINALY great changes that's the 2 ball bearings in the hex shanks and yes they got 3 LED light but Dewalt have it for couple of year but i'll still stay with Milwaukee tools anyway
It's important to point out that the tightening torque does not equal to loosening torque. I forgot where I read it, but I remember reading somewhere that it takes roughly 70% to 75% of the tightening torque to loosen a bolt. That means if a bolt was tightened to 550 ft-lbs, then it would take only about 390 ft-lbs to loosen that bolt.
I plan on getting one of these. More than enough power for hvac work. Thanks.
As an HVAC controls/install tech which owns one for 2 years now, I can assure you it is.
Good review, I have the gen 3 impact driver and hammer drill picked them both up with two 5ah batteries and a hard case for $199 a few years ago. I hate the lights on them though, completely useless 😒
I just picked up the latest Gen 4 today with a 5ah and a 2ah for $199.
Torque test channel time to get your hands on it!!
The best part is that they fixed the collet issue from the gen 3 by putting two ball bearings instead of one.
Just ordered my combo w the impact and hammer drill and it came w a free 8ah battery for $399+tax. Cant wait to try it.
I just bought the japan only Makita TD002 and im very excited!! I just received my 4.0ah battery, the driver and charger are still on the way. It cost $450 for everything 😳
Good choice money well spent getting past the milwaki nut jobs this impact is slower at then the gen 3.
Looks like I gotta buy 1!
After this video I have a whole new level of faith in my red brand 1/4" hex adapters
I think Milwaukee actually underrated this tool.
By the way, I just got this in the kit with the gen 4 hammer drill during the Black Friday sale. I chose the angle grinder as the fee tool for the best hack.
Did you also have they Gen 3 hammer drill? Curious if it got a bit quieter than the old one.
@@saiiiiiii1 I don’t have the gen 3. This is actually the first time I’ve purchased any significant power tools.
I have a brushed (non fuel) M12 set that I bought several years ago. My M12 set still works great, but doesn’t really have enough power for what I want to do now.
@@DiligentDave1966 what do you think about the sound? I had a gen 3 for 3 days and the sound was unbearable. Very high pitched and loud
@@saiiiiiii1 I actually just squeezed the trigger on the gen 4 tools. There is a bit of a whine, and the grip feels a little small for the size and weight.
@@DiligentDave1966 got ya. Probably the same sound as on the gen 3, might give the new one a try
One Key version? I really liked the customizable modes.
thanks for the info
The power is very impressive, but imo the power of an impact driver shouldn’t exceed that of the 1/4 inch hex collet. I’ve already seen a channel have the collet break due to the power of the tool.
You should have tried 600 with the 6.0 battery, I makes a big difference with my gen 3
@Alex Gessner yep. Hopefully TTC gives us a comparison with the 6.0
The reason we test with 5.0 batteries is because that's the battery that you receive when you purchase the kit. How much power do you want from a 1/4" hex drive? Sure, we can test with the 6.0 and 12.0, but what's the real world value? Thanks for watching and commenting.
@@Shoptoolreviews Real world value is that many of us use 3ah HO batteries but i use 6.0 HO batteries on nearly everything. In the eletrical trade we almost all use the 6 and 8 in all our tools. These tests with 5.0s are fine for a starter, but real world FUEL tools are meant to tap into the extra output. The 3.0 ho and 5.0 xc are nearly identical in output.
So can you tighten it for 10 seconds to see how many ft lbs it can torque?
Anyone have the model numbers of the other three generations so I know for sure what I currently have? Much appreciated. Great Video!
By far the best most powerful Milwaukee impact driver I’ve ever used now there gen 3 was a monster
The Torque Test Channel broke this impact driver during their test.
I’m wondering if they just got a defective one.
No tightening test?
Do battery amps affect the power output or is it just the longevity of the battery?
How is this impact driver does better or par with Milwaukee m18 impact wrenches such as 2854 and 2855???? I am so confused and I feel like I don't have to get an impact wrench if I have this impact driver.
Is Milwaukee going to come out with the one key for the gen 4 ?
Anvil swap to 3/8". Mid torque in compact body.
Man Caver Tools edition!
I want one so bad now. And I'd just get a 3/8ths square drive to 1/4 hex adapter for driving screws because i use both
Is there a chuck wobble in the gen 4 similar to gen 3?
WoW , that Impact is Pretty Impressive , I think it did better than the Impact Wrench on those Bolts....👍🖖
It is very impressive. Almost too powerful for an impact driver.
It did! The Stubby is rated at 250 ft lbs loosening, and the right angle impact at 220/225? LOL, why do I have wrenches is what I'm now asking myself!
@@ToolDeals lmao for real
Which Milwaukee do you recommend for truck wheels truck maintenance? Want to stick with Milwaukee.
Just got one to replace my Gen 2. It’s disgusting how much better it is. Haven’t tested my drill yet but I assume it’ll be the same experience.
Yes, jumping from Gen 2 to Gen 4 is a huge leap. You should be really happy. Thanks for watching.
Wish Milwaukee pay more attention to the logo on the tool. The logo always fade away after a few months of use. Makita logo stay on no matter how rough you treat it!
All mine look perfect still except one oldest one.
@@BenVanAmburg I should have said that the logo rub off easily since it's painted on. I don't baby my tools so after a few months of throwing it around, the logo is rubbed off! Makita logo is a plastic insert so no matter how much I rub it against the ground it's still there. It's not a big deal but appreciate the details on Makita stuff
@@ktra5031 what's even worse is the cheaper TTI brands do just fine. I own Ryobi, Ridgid and Milwaukee along with Bosch and only the Milwaukee logo fades away. I even take care when cleaning my tools after work to not rub the logo off if I scrub too hard. That's just unacceptable.
Hahah its funny i think its the opposite the dewalt logo will last one day but the milwaukee last years
Not a big deals at all ! these tools give you the performance you need period !!
what's the science behind not using impacts on lug nuts? I use my M12 on them all the time and it works amazing, Canadian winters too LOL
Gotta get one !
We hope you enjoy it. Thanks for watching.
Whats the model number for the adapter you are using?
Is the chuck supposed to spin ? If I hold my chuck n pull trigger the driver spins but the chuck will stay
why Milwaukee 2953 Gen 4 M18 FUEL can't have quick release button???
Hey mate, would would you recommend out of both the dewalt and milwalkee range to remove corroded on bolts? I work with mine vehicles and some of them are incredibly stuck on. I don't have an air setup so battery is needed. Would prefer milwalkee as I plan on purchasing their automotive set with the 40" roll cab and keeping everything in one brand is nice and convenient. If the dewalt equivalent is seriously better than I will bite the bullet and run some yellow.
Can't go wrong with either.
@@saiiiiiii1 How's the rest of their range? I will definitely be using impact wrench (Most important tool for what I'm doing. Occasional tools are drill, maybe an impact driver and angle grinder. Leafblower for around the house is good too. Just tryna figure which family is best because its a big commitment long term.
@@spoku4996 I wouldn’t be brand specific. This little guy (Gen3 that is) beat a dewalt driver and a few other brand names. Check out project farm on UA-cam for his reviews. He’s got A TON of tool reviews that he puts brand names head to head.
TJ!!LET'S GO!!🏁
Like FLEX...🤔
Thanks
When does it go in store?
that 600 was def about to break with 5-10 more seconds.
Our friend Mancaver will be watching this and thinking "hello Frankenstein"
Any info/rumors on m12 gen4 impact driver?
I am curious to know if you are satisfied with the product after using it for a year.
For refrence the head bolts of a cummins ISX is torqued to 300 ftlbs plus 90°. This almost doubled that on loosening torque.
Plus 90° is a LOTT more than 300lb-ft bud. More like 500.
Could you compare it to the surge?
I use mine to remove the lug nuts on my car … super quick then I just torque them back with a manual torque wrench. It’s only like once or twice a year man, that’s what tools are used for
I know it's an older video but should re-test them with either the 6.0 HO and/or Forged battery
Has any impact driver ever broke over 550? I remember you said you said you had a secret driver that held the record which I believed it was the xtr or ridgid please do tell what is the strongest impact driver ever tested 🤔 😉???????
You can adapt the 2854 impact wrench (same or similar size) with the milwaukee 1/4 hex adapter, 250 ft lbs Obviously gotta be careful with that much power in 1/4 hex, We have reached the power limits of 1/4 hex.
"Why didn't you do 575 ft. lbs.?"
"We didn't want to, how's that?"
Works for me. 😆
Was wondering the same
You should've used high output batteries to maximize the fuel power of the tool
It's like a red Dewalt now 😂
What temp gun did you use? I’m interested
Milwaukee 2257-20 spot Infrared
Which model do you recommend for taking off Lugnuts? Car? Pick up truck?
Having the complete arsenal of Milwaukee impacts the Mid-Torque is the pick of the litter.
Would be curious as to why you shouldn’t use an impact driver to remove lugs. Seems like the math works out generously, not even flexing half the power of the driver for more than 2 seconds in most cases.
The tool might not last 5 years, if you use it to remove lug nuts everyday.
For the same reason you wouldn’t use a 1/4 breaker bar with lugs, just won’t last
Im going to use it for lugs and everything in between don’t care. Not everyday but maybe once every 3-4 months should be fine.
I think this decided for me. Im getting the driver and ill just use a socket conversion for car stuff. I dont need an impact wrench. This is wild
Lol... And then i watched till the end.
What I don’t like is Milwaukee never gives you a rapid changer
Could I get a quick explanation on why you wouldn’t want to use an impact driver on wheel lug nuts?
You can, but it's not recommended. It would be like using a small claw hammer to break up a concrete slab, rather than using a sledge hammer. It may work, but it's not the right tool. Thanks for watching.
@@Shoptoolreviews Good analogy. Thanks for the reply and the great videos!
I thought you were going to compare it to the old gen 3 impact...is there any other difference other than the led lights and 50ft lbs of torque difference from old Gen 3 ?
VCG Construction recently did a TTR (Tool Test Raw) Gen 3 vs. Gen 4. Differences seemed to be very minimal in his testing.
@@shadetreetoolman2047 I use gen2 impact and hammer drill. I planed to skip gen 3. But after I watch vcg test a few days ago, I ordered gen 3 combo 🤔🤔
You'd be happy with either one, and I doubt anyone could tell a power difference between the two. In fact, there's good chance that we could test again, with both impact drivers, and they may do the same. We do love the Tri-LED lights, but that may not be important to you. You may want to check the sales when they first release. They may have a better offer than on the Gen 3. Thanks for watching.
@@Shoptoolreviews Thanks for your honest feedback. I already have like 6 sets of the gen 3,another 3 in surge, even the one-key one, that's why I wanted to know going forward even if there is a sale I am not missing much on Gen 4.
@@ShoptoolreviewsAs someone who works a production job that uses Old Milwaukee impact drivers I promise you that can tell the power difference especially when you get your paycheck. My job provides Gen 3s currently but I ordered myself a Gen 4 and it's a difference of 35% on mlm my rate or $4/hr. The power difference is huge for those of us who would be able to pay attention.
I would be curious as to why this shouldn’t be used to remove lug nuts. I didn’t hear a valid reason other than “trust me on this”. Is there something specific that would damage the tool.
Good review…Thanks.
With an impact driver, you're limited to the power that the 1/4" hex shaft (on the adapter) can take. Also, rarely do all the lug nuts reflect the applied torque 3 months, 6 months, or 1 year after they've been installed. Furthermore, many tire shops just run the lug nuts on with an air powered impact wrench on high, over-torqueing the nuts. Adding to the issue, season changes add corrosion possibilities. All of these things, and more, make it not a good candidate for an impact driver to remove lug nuts. Thanks for watching.
In short… it wasn’t meant for that so if you do, don’t curse out milwaukee if it breaks 😂. Fasteners only… wouldn’t even recommend using it for drilling, especially with things like spade bits, unless you’re in a pinch and need to make a couple holes.
That thing will be fine doing lug nuts!!!
Bring a bunch of 1/2" adapters along with it
@@luisinhoens90 yeah i have been using a dewalt one on lugs for years and have only broke a few adapters
I use the gen 3 and 4 everyday installing ductwork and setting commercial HVAC. These drive modes are 100% useless and obnoxious. Not only do they have a mind of their own and randomly change (not tool specific either) but the anti-strip mode gives you No power to get your self tapper in. You can strip a #10 screw if you have no throttle control on 3 or your going in thin sheet metal. This is the only time i might set it on speed 2. I settled on a gen 3 fuel this black friday as the drill & impact were $120 cheaper than a gen 4 @ $400. The deal was good for a gen 4 as you got a free tool but unfortunately none of the tools were what i wanted as of now. Im taking my $120 and applying it towards a circular saw.
Try slapping a h.o battery on it
Nice
These are nice tools but the lights suck, ot would be nice if they followed Dewalt on that. Also, it would be nice if they made the forward/reverse button on the drill and the speed selection button on the impact a little stiffer and not so easy to bump and change settings
I've had both this and the Dewalt DCF850 and DCF923. The 2953-20 had the best most natural color for the LED lights. What didn't you like about them?
No bump in power thought on either drill and impact
The 2804 Drill was rated at 1,200 in/lbs, and the new 2904 is rated at 1,400 in/lbs. Both impact drivers are rated at the same 2,000 in-lbs. Basically, you're getting the bump in power on the drill, Auto Stop on the drill, and Tri-LED on the impact driver.
@@Shoptoolreviews Your forgetting the most important upgrade on the drill and that's the fact that the Gen 4 chuck doesn't auto loosen as it does on the Gen 3. A hell of a lot of Rohm chucks have been sold for Milwaukee drills due to this issue.
Wish he would have tried with the gen 3 as well, probably could have done it.although Milwaukee wouldn’t like him doing that lol
There's not much difference from the Gen3, I mentioned this in the video. We've reviewed the Gen3 in the past as well. Thanks for watching.
Golden like
Super Tools
★★★★★
Thanks for watching.
👍👍👍👍
Im use. 12 v milwaukie drilhummerdriver
Beats FLEX by 50 lbs
We might have to do a head to head very soon. ;) Thanks for watching.
Is it a single or dual ball bearing colet retention?
Dual buddy VCG showed it off on one of its shorts i thik
What’s this rated at, 2,000 inch pounds? So about 166 lbf? How is it capable of breaking loose tighter fasteners than the M12 stubby which is rated at 250 lbf (though Tim has broken 400 lbf with the stubby)? Anyone know what’s up with that?
Yeah, it's not possible. It can do over 200 ft lbs loosening, though. It potentially could remove something like an axle nut if it's not all corroded.
600 ft lbs would break any 3/8" hex adapter long before it reached those kind of numbers.
A nut that is 1 inch and at 400 "inch pounds" will only require a tool with 200 inch pounds to break it free, because the diameter is 50% a true inch from the center of the torque. Anyways, cool, but not what you guys think it is.
Gen 1 Hercules
Why buy an impactvwrench just for lug nuts if this can remove them easily. Doesn't make financial sense.
There's a lot more going on than what it looks. These nuts/bolts are greased each time we test, so the threads are in near-perfect condition. There is no corrosion and there are no imperfections. Lug nuts on wheels are quite the opposite. To keep this brief, I'll try to explain differently. Swing a 12 oz. ball peen hammer and a 12 lb. sledge hammer. They may both deliver 5,000 psi of force. The ball peen does this over the size of a pencil eraser, and the sledge hammer over the size of a soda can. The sledge hammer will get more work done. The impact mechanism on the impact wrench is much heavier and larger than that of an impact driver.
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@@Shoptoolreviews Curious as to if you think the same with regards to this impact driver and the compact impact wrench? Is the impact mechanism larger on the wrench? They seem the same size from the outside. I use the compact for lug nuts, although probably not ideal. Never bothered with an impact driver but this video did surprise me, still probably wouldn’t use it
What about removing lug nuts on your automobile?
It will remove lug nuts if they've been torqued correctly and they don't have any corrosion; however, we do not recommend using an impact driver to remove lug nuts. It's just not designed for this purpose. Thanks for watching.
Milwaukee: leading from behind
Big time
Drill seems like a skip for me but I want this driver
Both are very similar to their predecessors, but the Tri-LED is a big plus. Thanks for watching.
I have the gen4 in this review. The tool is awsome but it would be nice if milwaukee would make batteries that wouldn't fail after a few uses!😡
Which battery did you have that died.
@@mike_t_007 3 of my 4 m18 12ah batteries failed before 30 charge cycles. This was at the 1 year mark and milwaukee would not warranty without the receipts as they were 3.5 years old. Home depot sold me some really old batteries.
@unclefester4626 😮 wow sorry to hear about this. So even though the batteries are under warranty, they're still.not honoring them?
@@mike_t_007 nope. Somehow home depot had several batteries in their warehouse that were over 2 years old. I buy them and lost track of the receipts. They fail at the 1 year mark for me. That makes them 3 1/2 years old by the serial number.
See thats what people just don't realize is when you buy the higher priced tools they don't move off the shelf as fast and wind up being older than you think.
In the case of my batteries i suspect they got lost somewhere and found and just thrown on the shelf. The milwaukee rep said home depot is supposed to return them after 1 year if they dont sell. They'll get replacements for the old ones. Well....i doubt the average warehouse worker even knows that or even gives a shyte either.
it had shorter socket it would do 600.
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