Looks powerful and does the job, but as someone else commented it does not seem the anti-kickback even worked at all. It would be nice to have a video highlighting this feature and see the positives and negatives of it on this tool.
I've been waiting for reviews of the 2904 to come out! I'm certainly interested in buying one. However at 9:10, it doesn't look like the new auto-stop feature did anything when it should have, which is a disappointment.
I think its forgivable when it first starts, looks like it kicked of and he reactivated the drill in the hole and that alone will give unwanted torque.
Drill- Packedge in typical box, came with a tool bag (added bonus), two batteries, one charger, drill, and driver. Two words "plenty of Torque" ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxW1vOBRCMrgTCDEijzpVzDWsgI-Jm2iQv well I guess that's three. Nice upgrade from current setup. Has belt clips, I don't think I will be using those. Driver and drill were bigger than what I expected but it is an upgrade from the current setup. For the money I would say that this is a great setup for Professionals and DIY/Weekend warriors.
For us using drills on our ice augers I wonder how that auto stop will work. I could see it being a very nice safety device but also could see it cutting out so much that it would be best to deactivate it.
Does that drill have a louder whistling noise than earlier generations. Like gen 1 or compared to competitors. I tried gen 4 one at store but was a model don't know if it was defective or not. I don't mind some noise but seemed excessive.
Hearing that they went back to a machanical clutch makes me soo happy, those electronic clutches were absolute garbage, still stripped out tappits on the lowest torque setting
They do. I have a 2904-20 and the wobble is horrible. I'm trying to figure out which Rohm to buy for the Gen 4. The replacement chuck for the Gen 3 doesn't fit the 4.
Does the Milwaukee Chuck have a slight wobble when you look straight at it and pull trigger slow? Mine does I just bought it wondering if they all do that.
Thanks for the review Tim!! Honestly, somewhat disappointed in the Gen4 impact and drill. Seems like DeWalt's updates have been more significant lately compared to some of their previous models. (But they had more catching up to do on some tools). Would love to have seen a 25% increase in performance over Gen3, but it's possible Milwaukee was already pushing the boundaries based on size of tool and motor. We get a small torque increase, but the auto stop/anti rotation feature and the mechanical clutch are the highlights.
I agree that the Gen-4 2904 doesn't seem like much of an upgrade over the Gen-3 2903, but let me raise this question: Is there a limit to how much power you actually need in a tool like this? I'd argue that the power gain from 1200 in-lbs to 1400 in-lbs is entirely adequate. But I'm somewhat disappointed that the tool did not get any smaller and the auto-stop feature did not even work in this video and twisted Tim's arm quite a lot at 9:10.
@@joeschmoe6908 Me too, but it needs to work. I'm 95% sure that it can also be turned off, if the feature is too sensitive you can turn it off and keep working. Either way, I'm curious to see other reviews as they come out.
They are powerful enough as it is. We run the old Makita, that I think was the first drill with over 1000 in/lbs, Metabo's 36v and the gen 3 M18's. I can't say I can actually tell the difference between any of them in real world scenarios even with 6in hole saws, which to be honest are insanely dangerous on a non right angle drill anyways. The Gen. 3 impact we rarely use because it breaks bits, bit holder's, etc. It's legitimately more powerful than 1/4in can handle unless you run it on speed 2.
I enjoy watching these reviews and i everything i own is makita. I just wanna see what milwaukee they pull out there pocket ,the xph14 still hold its own amd the 40v a whole different story.
Heavier and less powerful but still Makita are great tools. Depend of what you currently own. Of course if you are a Makita guy, better keep going for Makita unless all your batteries are bad!
I don't see a reason to upgrade. I'd take advantage of all the current hammer drill deals if one was adamant about staying with Milwaukee. That anti-kick didn't seem to do much, without the handle it rotated 180 degrees!
I still have my first gen fuel drill. That thing still out performs these new gen. I use it to this day to mix concrete in a bucket in my of grid builds. The new ones will not do that. Not impressed. Have a ton of Milwuakee stuff love them. But the newer drills dont have the snort of the oldie. Good review. Thanks for the info.
We only use milwaukee at my job and my foreman has gone thru 2 of these new hammer drill drivers from milwaukee in the last year. He just got the 2nd one back from being warrantied. And all we really do is mix concrete with it.
I own both. The Mill blows away the Dewalt when it comes to sinking phillips bits. It will sink a phillips drywall screw that the DeWalt skips and slips and strips out.
For light masonry work I prefer Dewalt DCD 999 or 998 feels good in the hand I like a little weight in my tools I tried Milwaukee but they just feel toy like. 🤷🏻♂️ big guys big hands 👍 Plus the Dewalt has more power. I rather have more than less.
Based on your stupid comment and avatar, I doubt you have big anything. I use DeWalt, though I have to admit Milwaukees feel at least as solid as DeWalt, probably more. Nothing like toys! Stick to video games, missy.
Hello, After comparing torque specs of Milwaukee drills and others, I purchased a 2904 to replace a first generation M18 hammer drill that I purchased when Milwaukee introduced the M18 line about 10 years ago. After a week of destroying Irwin auger bits drilling hard southern yellow pine to accomodate 3/4 conduit in old construction, hitting an occasional 16p nail, I woke up several nights in pain from a sudden case of carpal tunnel. This is the first case of carpal tunnel I have ever had in my life and it got bad. Fortunately, It eventually went away completely after putting the drill down. The kickback worked but my original first generation M18 drill also had this feature, just not quite as sensitive. I prefer my M18 over my corded drill because of the kickback prevention. Also, when using this drill, my sound alarm (alert) goes off frequently at 106 DB indicating I should be wearing hearing protection if exposed to more than a few minutes while using this drill. My 2904 is a screamer by comparison to the original. Finally, I noticed this model goes through my set of M18 batteries at least twice as fast, requiring dual charging. Feedback on your video: IMHO, there is WAY too much babble with no useful info. Playback x 4. I would respectfully suggest breviety and follow a Myth Busters or Consumer Reports style demo that compares drill use through a variety of materials of different densities (not just soft pine) to include hard wood (pallet oak), 3400 psi aged concrete and 1/8" mild steel. How about mixing a bucket of mastic on slow speed? It would be great to find someone with a technical background with some equipment to measure important items, like noise, power consumption (battery life), kickback and vibration.
I never believe the specs. It's just a addition to spice up the sales. It's the same motor with the same torque as before. They just upgraded the chuck and put in the autostop.
Does anybody know where I can find a list of Milwaukee Tools and Model Numbers that tells what Generation they are. I accidentally bought the Gen 3s cause I trusted the store employee. I would rather have a list that says something like: Tool: Model# Generation: If this list is out there, please someone point me in the right direction. If not, please someone make it and I will Sub to your channel lol (Just joking, sorta, I def want that list though 😅😂🤣).
Just returned the 18v compact brushless and “upgraded”to this one. There is an insane amount of wobble to the point it might be defective. I have read reviews where Milwaukee fans throw out self-soothing mantras like “Well it’s a Contractor Tool!!! It isn’t meant for precision!” If that’s the case and these are typical of Milwaukee, then it’s a horseshit brand, period. My Dewalts never wobbled like this.
I had to give it a thumbs up because of the attack , Priceless
Looks powerful and does the job, but as someone else commented it does not seem the anti-kickback even worked at all. It would be nice to have a video highlighting this feature and see the positives and negatives of it on this tool.
There’s a bypass that you can use for the anti kick feature.
It has anti kick if you don’t bypass it.
Also, from what I understand about the anti kick, is that it shuts down the tool to prevent torquing your wrist.
It works very well on the two I have. Make sure it's enabled and you will see it's effect very clearly.
That hammer drill is one of their best of the BEST !! . I was lucky to get the combo kit; with a free 8a/h high output battery.
I've been waiting for reviews of the 2904 to come out! I'm certainly interested in buying one. However at 9:10, it doesn't look like the new auto-stop feature did anything when it should have, which is a disappointment.
I wonder if it is something you have to enable? Also he didn't mention anything when that happened at that timestamp so I'm kinda confused regardless
I think its forgivable when it first starts, looks like it kicked of and he reactivated the drill in the hole and that alone will give unwanted torque.
If I remember correctly it is able to be turned off.
@@phillipmoody710 I think it's turned on by default and unlikely that Tim turned it off for the video.
@@ZeGermanHam i turned it off on mine on accident you just set the selector switch to off and squeeze 5 times to turn it on or off
Just got mine, unfortunately the auto-stop feature doesn’t always work.
nice test, glad the anti kick back is there, and keep it smart and use the right tool for the project
Can't wait for you to review the m12 gen 4
is there a kit that comes with the high output batteries? (not the XC)
I didn't notice any auto-stop feature in action when the drill machine got stuck while performing demo tasks or did it?
Drill- Packedge in typical box, came with a tool bag (added bonus), two batteries, one charger, drill, and driver. Two words "plenty of Torque" ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxW1vOBRCMrgTCDEijzpVzDWsgI-Jm2iQv well I guess that's three. Nice upgrade from current setup. Has belt clips, I don't think I will be using those. Driver and drill were bigger than what I expected but it is an upgrade from the current setup. For the money I would say that this is a great setup for Professionals and DIY/Weekend warriors.
Hi why is it not going through on speed 2. Trying to understand that
Just moved from DeWalt but I purchased the gen 4 and it gets quite hot is that normal
My dude really reacted at that horse fly😂😂😂
How big of a hole can I get in concrete with this thing?
Ridiculous, the new tool are still shipping with 5 amp batteries. Could have packaged with a 3 amp and 6 amp high output batteries
Costs! 21700 cells are more expensive than 18650 cells. Thanks for watching.
I’ve noticed in the shop where I work the XC4.0 batteries seem to have a longer life span than the XC5.0. However the 5 has longer run time
I agree. The 6 amp hour High output would make this thing phenomenal
I agree 100%. Why not ship with the recommended batteries for FUEL tools.
exactly! the high output batteries are just 10-20$ more. I would pay!
How come you don't do tests drilling concrete? That's the reason in looking into buying this drill
For us using drills on our ice augers I wonder how that auto stop will work. I could see it being a very nice safety device but also could see it cutting out so much that it would be best to deactivate it.
I’ll be testing that feature out this winter. I just bought this drill for that purpose.
It doesn't stop unless your drill go full rampage and dislocate your wrist. It doesn't trigger at random.
You can bypass the function if it’s interfering with your work.
Could you do a review of the gen 3 vs the gen 4? Would it be worth upgrading or no?
No hammer drill demo?
Thank you for the slow-mo🤣🤣
I think if you would of turned off the anti kickback 'feature" it would of ran that holesaw straight on through on speed 2 no problem. great video!
How loud is one compared to the other in decibel
Anyone know how to get one in the UK been looking everywere not one in sight in shop or online?
Anti kickback may just be a bigger pain than it's worth but guess I won't really know till it's in my hand
I own the drill, you can turn it off. You put the forward/reverse switch in the middle position and then pull and release the trigger five times.
Did they kill one key?
I don't know how I feel about the missing speed selector
Does that drill have a louder whistling noise than earlier generations. Like gen 1 or compared to competitors. I tried gen 4 one at store but was a model don't know if it was defective or not. I don't mind some noise but seemed excessive.
Is it worth the upgrade?
No one-key on the gen 4?
Hearing that they went back to a machanical clutch makes me soo happy, those electronic clutches were absolute garbage, still stripped out tappits on the lowest torque setting
What’s that rack in the back holding your Milwaukee power tools?
That's the Perch Tools rack.
ua-cam.com/video/Tf88Bnqm91A/v-deo.html
Wonder if these will have the same junky chuck issues. Some Milwaukee drills it's better to replace the chucks with a German one.
They do. I have a 2904-20 and the wobble is horrible. I'm trying to figure out which Rohm to buy for the Gen 4. The replacement chuck for the Gen 3 doesn't fit the 4.
Where can one actually place a preorder? None of the usual places (OPT, Toolnut, Acme, etc) have allowed preorder since pipeline.
Entirely different style of clutch but you don’t test the clutches ?
Can we switch off Auto stop like Bosch latest hammer drill
Auto stop is not a great feature
Yes!
Does the 5ah battery have 21,700 cells
Nope, 18650’s
Came here for the review but was caught off by that giant bug flying kamikaze into your face. Omg 🤣🤣
Hello, is this gen 4 hammer drill, louder then the rest of the other generations??
Yup it is
glad it's got kick back stop good power.
Does the Milwaukee Chuck have a slight wobble when you look straight at it and pull trigger slow? Mine does I just bought it wondering if they all do that.
Anyone have this and struggling to get it into hammer mode?
Yes did you ever fix it? Not sure if I’m doing something wrong
@@elihibdon5548took it back to tool shop and they told me it was faulty.
How many newton meters of torque is that?
You divide by 8.85 to convert in-lbs in Nm, so it has 158 Nm of torque
Very efficient on the job site 4.8/5 for me.
Thanks for the review Tim!! Honestly, somewhat disappointed in the Gen4 impact and drill. Seems like DeWalt's updates have been more significant lately compared to some of their previous models. (But they had more catching up to do on some tools). Would love to have seen a 25% increase in performance over Gen3, but it's possible Milwaukee was already pushing the boundaries based on size of tool and motor. We get a small torque increase, but the auto stop/anti rotation feature and the mechanical clutch are the highlights.
I agree that the Gen-4 2904 doesn't seem like much of an upgrade over the Gen-3 2903, but let me raise this question: Is there a limit to how much power you actually need in a tool like this? I'd argue that the power gain from 1200 in-lbs to 1400 in-lbs is entirely adequate. But I'm somewhat disappointed that the tool did not get any smaller and the auto-stop feature did not even work in this video and twisted Tim's arm quite a lot at 9:10.
@@ZeGermanHam I'd rather have the auto stop fail than be too aggressive.
@@joeschmoe6908 Me too, but it needs to work. I'm 95% sure that it can also be turned off, if the feature is too sensitive you can turn it off and keep working. Either way, I'm curious to see other reviews as they come out.
They are powerful enough as it is. We run the old Makita, that I think was the first drill with over 1000 in/lbs, Metabo's 36v and the gen 3 M18's. I can't say I can actually tell the difference between any of them in real world scenarios even with 6in hole saws, which to be honest are insanely dangerous on a non right angle drill anyways. The Gen. 3 impact we rarely use because it breaks bits, bit holder's, etc. It's legitimately more powerful than 1/4in can handle unless you run it on speed 2.
Betcha if you put the H-O 3 or 6 ah battery in, and it blows through on 2
Chuck still have insanely terrible wobble?
Not that we noticed. We'll have to keep our eye out for it. Thanks for watching.
Just for the mechanical clutch
And It feels worth the upgrade
I enjoy watching these reviews and i everything i own is makita. I just wanna see what milwaukee they pull out there pocket ,the xph14 still hold its own amd the 40v a whole different story.
Makita makes some great tools as well. Thanks for watching.
Heavier and less powerful but still Makita are great tools. Depend of what you currently own. Of course if you are a Makita guy, better keep going for Makita unless all your batteries are bad!
I don't see a reason to upgrade. I'd take advantage of all the current hammer drill deals if one was adamant about staying with Milwaukee. That anti-kick didn't seem to do much, without the handle it rotated 180 degrees!
No point to upgrade indeed. If your drill is good, it's good lol. Sure cool to see new features but when a tool do its job, no reason to upgrade.
Super Tools★★★★★
Thanks for watching.
I still have my first gen fuel drill. That thing still out performs these new gen. I use it to this day to mix concrete in a bucket in my of grid builds. The new ones will not do that. Not impressed. Have a ton of Milwuakee stuff love them. But the newer drills dont have the snort of the oldie. Good review. Thanks for the info.
We only use milwaukee at my job and my foreman has gone thru 2 of these new hammer drill drivers from milwaukee in the last year. He just got the 2nd one back from being warrantied. And all we really do is mix concrete with it.
I own both. The Mill blows away the Dewalt when it comes to sinking phillips bits. It will sink a phillips drywall screw that the DeWalt skips and slips and strips out.
For light masonry work I prefer Dewalt DCD 999 or 998 feels good in the hand I like a little weight in my tools I tried Milwaukee but they just feel toy like. 🤷🏻♂️ big guys big hands 👍 Plus the Dewalt has more power. I rather have more than less.
Based on your stupid comment and avatar, I doubt you have big anything. I use DeWalt, though I have to admit Milwaukees feel at least as solid as DeWalt, probably more. Nothing like toys! Stick to video games, missy.
Hello, After comparing torque specs of Milwaukee drills and others, I purchased a 2904 to replace a first generation M18 hammer drill that I purchased when Milwaukee introduced the M18 line about 10 years ago. After a week of destroying Irwin auger bits drilling hard southern yellow pine to accomodate 3/4 conduit in old construction, hitting an occasional 16p nail, I woke up several nights in pain from a sudden case of carpal tunnel. This is the first case of carpal tunnel I have ever had in my life and it got bad. Fortunately, It eventually went away completely after putting the drill down. The kickback worked but my original first generation M18 drill also had this feature, just not quite as sensitive. I prefer my M18 over my corded drill because of the kickback prevention.
Also, when using this drill, my sound alarm (alert) goes off frequently at 106 DB indicating I should be wearing hearing protection if exposed to more than a few minutes while using this drill. My 2904 is a screamer by comparison to the original. Finally, I noticed this model goes through my set of M18 batteries at least twice as fast, requiring dual charging.
Feedback on your video: IMHO, there is WAY too much babble with no useful info. Playback x 4. I would respectfully suggest breviety and follow a Myth Busters or Consumer Reports style demo that compares drill use through a variety of materials of different densities (not just soft pine) to include hard wood (pallet oak), 3400 psi aged concrete and 1/8" mild steel. How about mixing a bucket of mastic on slow speed? It would be great to find someone with a technical background with some equipment to measure important items, like noise, power consumption (battery life), kickback and vibration.
Maybe you should start a UA-cam channel and perform the tests your recommended. Seriously! Thanks for watching and commenting.
I never believe the specs. It's just a addition to spice up the sales. It's the same motor with the same torque as before. They just upgraded the chuck and put in the autostop.
Really happy that they went back to a mechanical clutch. The electric clutch is terrible.
Does anybody know where I can find a list of Milwaukee Tools and Model Numbers that tells what Generation they are. I accidentally bought the Gen 3s cause I trusted the store employee. I would rather have a list that says something like:
Tool:
Model#
Generation:
If this list is out there, please someone point me in the right direction. If not, please someone make it and I will Sub to your channel lol (Just joking, sorta, I def want that list though 😅😂🤣).
Seems hard to find. Had to google the model number and "GEN" right beside and usually it says it.
Ah so that's why you seemed kinda PO in the impact review lol damn heat and the hornets attacking
That's right. My enemies trying to send in the hornet drones to find out what we're doing. lol. Thanks for watching.
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Just returned the 18v compact brushless and “upgraded”to this one.
There is an insane amount of wobble to the point it might be defective. I have read reviews where Milwaukee fans throw out self-soothing mantras like “Well it’s a Contractor Tool!!! It isn’t meant for precision!”
If that’s the case and these are typical of Milwaukee, then it’s a horseshit brand, period.
My Dewalts never wobbled like this.
I think that’s called “runout” on a drill
Just want to take this time to thank you for leaving in the bug attack
Thanks for the laf 🤣
Glad I could help. Thanks for watching
Haha the killer horse fly
She sure is pertty Pa ❤😂😊
Hopefully Milwaukee will come out with stacked lithium batteries soon.
Love everything except the auxiliary handle that’s a wonky design
I think a DeWALT CEO sent that killer horse fly in to take you out bro.... 🤔
I think you're right. I'm calling them now. lol. Thanks for watching.
@@Shoptoolreviews 😂
Why not use it on concrete like you're supposed to use a hammer drill
How about drilling some hard concrete? That's why you buy a hammer drill.
Bug attack!
I taught that was roach 😅
I thought It was a fairy