@@UncleIvan1 They are the same, yes. I actually order them directly from that same site. Obviously I always wear the red ones, but it’s the exact shirt - just in various colors.
I work in the HVAC/R trade, and WAY too many techs use the impact drivers, which straps out the sheet metal screws. I agree 100% with the fact that people need to know HOW, when and where to USE their tools.
Thanks for this advice I'm HVAC apprentice and I'm about two weeks away from graduating and I'm deciding between drill and impact do you have any advice for a young tech?
This was wonderfully informative. There are so many videos talking about “what’s the best brand” and “which tool to use” but they never fully explain how exactly they work and the reason you want to use it for certain jobs.
Thank you Nils! I just found this video and it's the first time I've come across your channel. I don't have a heap of tradie (Aussie for laborer) knowledge, but just enough to identify most tools/machinery and know roughly what they're used for. As a chick, I like to challenge myself to figure out how to fix things for the knowledge and independence it gives. Too often I get recommended approaches (online and in person) with information that doesn't give the detail of how it works, the pros and cons, etc. Your communication style allowed me to understand the terminology, what features do, and when to decide to use them. I love this because it'll help me plan my approach to a task that prevents the f'up factor! I'm about to start my most challenging project yet, so this will be invaluable!
One point I feel you may have missed. The continuous torque of the drill contributes to cam out of the driver bit. The pulsing force of the impact driver allows the bit to fully engage with the fastener between blows. It is therefore always fully inserted into the head of the fastener.
@@nole8923 I believe he and I share a childish sense of humor, thus the chuckles come from talk of a pulsing force and fully inserted head in between blows.
I'm not saying you're wrong but I have trouble wrapping my head around why that should be the case. Could it be that it's more because of operator interaction with the tool? Maybe you tend to hold the impact driver more securely because of the feedback coming from it and with the drill that feels like it is operating more smoothly you tend to let off your control.
Best video I’ve watched on this topic. When I ask my carpenter buddy, he says the voltage isn’t that important in commercial applications but he always gets the batteries with the longest run time so he’s not having to switch out all the time. He’s also told me that those 40v hand tools can break your wrist if they bind up.
I’m a mover/delivery driver damn near by trade and one of my tools of choice is an old Makita driver I was gifted years back. Compact, ergonomic, and the battery life make it an absolute workhorse. I wondered why people would use anything else. Years of using it have trained my finger to know how much pressure I need to apply on the trigger to avoid stripping holes for hinges and fasteners but this video was really enlightening.
Wow I'm a professional mover / deliver business owner myself. As I gotten many tools over the year my Makita impact w/ battery life is still with me & refuse to die. 😂
I am a self employed plumber. I carry the Makita drill and impact, but I have the Milwaukee M12 impact and a few other M12 tools. My main go to is the M12 impact. Love this tool to death. Great video.
Wow - you covered so much ! Very cool. 2 things in my experience…. The driver truly excels over a drill for screws - I did 3000 screws in a fence. I don’t think the Phillips head slipped once; which happens often with a drill…… no special amount of forward pressure needed. It was basically dummy proof: it drove the screws fast at first, then kicked on the impact toward the end. Since the impact has a short kick (like an expensive ratchet), it is very easy to make fine turns to finish off the countersink - again, without popping out of the screw head. Also, using the impact for drilling has shown me some troubles (non-impact bits)- such as breaking the bit tip or getting a messy whole due to torque and too much bite….. a drill is easier to ‘feel’ and adjust speed and pressure. Thanks for info. Grace and Peace to you and yours
An impact driver will prevent stripping the heads out of screws, or help remove screws that are already a little stripped. It does a much better job at driving long screws. A standard driver might bog down or bend or snap a long deck screw, but an impact driver puts it in easily. And with much less fatigue because you don't have to push so hard to drive it. It will even remove lug nuts.
The biggest plus for an impact driver for me is the fact that they are so much easier on your hand & wrist. When drilling with a drill bit, your hand & wrist take the majority of the torque to keep the drill bit engaging. The larger the bit, the more force it takes to keep drilling. With a driver, the torque used to drive the drill bit comes from the driver. There is very little torque going to your hand & wrist. A good example is to take a powerful 3/4" drill and try drilling a 3/4" hole through a 10" pole. Then take a good impact driver powerful enough to drill a 3/4" bit through that same 10" pole and feel the difference.
Not everyone has 5 days to drill the hole with an impact driver, most would like to complete it in 5-10 seconds with a drill and a good bit. Try a 4" hole saw on an impact driver some day.
@@espressomatic Don’t know what you are talking about. I’ve always drilled faster with an impact drill. A regular drill slows down with resistance and you have to use your own muscle to get the job done. With an impact drill it does most of the work.
This was a really cool video! Nicely done! The self tapping feature is great on modern impact drivers. I was working on a bunch of steel doors today and it made quick work of them. No stripped screws or holes.
I love the Ryobi ‘Quiet Strike’ pulse driver. It’s been my go-to for over 5 years. Yes, I know. Ryobi is not thought of as ‘construction grade’ equipment. I do handyman and general contracting as a side job and have a plethora of Ryobi products. Admittedly, some are not up to task, but all their more ‘capable’ products have served me very well and have lasted quite long. This Quiet Strike acts like a drill/driver with impact function as torque demands.
@@joekubec9853 Disagree. Ryobi provide greater value if you buy their higher end tools tools. Yes they have a few worthless ones that I wouldn’t waste my money on, but most of the ones I have are beaten up, abused, dropped, and worked hard with little to complain about. Especially the brushless and HP+ line. Only one drill has failed me from the old blue NiCd days and my non-brushless hammer drill finally has a wobbling shaft after 6 years of drilling concrete and brick. When I replace it with the newest model I’ll have still spent less than a Milwaukee or Hilti. But hey, to each their own.
@@JuanMartinez-gu8sh Yeah honestly man I would try and reason with this flop, whatever gets the job done and doesn't cost you a ridiculous amount of money.
@@JuanMartinez-gu8sh I had a 9.6V Ni Cad Makita drill. I used it for close to 20 years. That same battery slowly died over the years, but was enough for whatever I needed a cordless drill for (I have corded drills too). I eventually bought new no-name batteries for it. But then my basement flooded last winter and the drill and batteries just stopped working (rusted to crap). I bought a new Ryobi One PLus drill to replace it.
Beign able to visualize the rotaional impact was so helpful in my understanding of how impact drivers worked. Thank you so much for cutting a drill to share!
This is amazing. You just taught me something on how to use my drill. I never knew what the stuff meant on the drill and since my dad passed a few years ago I’ve just been winging it.
As long as you're careful with it, you can use an impact driver for 80-90 percent of what a drill can do. Drills are still very necessary however for needing to use larger drill bits, as well as the fact that the chuck allows you to use a larger variety of bits compared to an impact driver that's only limited to bits that have the 1/4" collet in them.
When you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail. They have two very different purposes and while you can definitely overlap use, you really shouldn't.
How can you use a driver for 80 or 90% of what a drill will do?? If you have to buy special bits, you have narrowed it's usefulness to nearly nothing. Can you use holesaws? Augers? Taps? Masonry bits? Paint mixers? Wire brushes? Etc? I would hardly consider using standard drill bits 80 to 90% of a drill's job. The driver has one job, driving. The drill handles all jobs. If you want to use a driver as a drill, it's yours and can be used however you want.................but, saying that you use your driver as a hammer, doesn't make it better than a hammer.
its so weird cause i was debating whether to use a drill or driver rn for a simple little thing i was about to do and saw you just uploaded this lol. awesome info man you explain things perfect 🤙🏽
I use my impact 90% of the time. It stays with me in my tool bag, where my drill stays in my truck unless I there’s something I can’t do with my impact: I have a few sets of drill bits that fit my impact. It’s a very versatile tool, my go to.
That's pretty much where I'm at too. Impact for anything I can, drill where it can't or shouldn't. The size, battery life and convenience of the impact just can't be beat.
@@LRN2DIY right? The impact is my most used tool. I just bought a new one too. I’ve had my old Dewalt, 18 and 20 volts for years and I treated myself right before Christmas to a brand new Dewalt brushless, 3 speed, 20 volt impact. Man it’s nice. It’s way smoother than my old ones. I even used it to remove the lug nuts on my wife’s Rav 4 yesterday when I changed her tire. I used the number 3 speed which makes it have 150 foot pounds of torque. Took em off like butter runnin down a bisquit. 😀 My old 20 volt didn’t have the 3 speed selector and didn’t have as much torque. It’s kinda fun being a construction guy because you get to buy new tools like a kid being able to buy their own toys. God knows I use my tools daily so why not buy good ones.
Having a short impact driver like the dcf850 has sure come in handy more then once! I personally use the clutch on my drill for drilling holes In steel when I know the bit could get stuck especially with a smaller size.
Fantastic video start to finish. Especially liked the humor, the educational focus (as opposed to selling/promoting), the examples/stories (dad/boat wheel) shared, the slo-mo vid of the cut-out impact driver showing the actual mechanism at work (that was a highlight!), and the reference material/poster provided as a bonus! Great, beginning to end. Thank you!!!
What I use most around the house is the Bosch 1/4 inch bit pocket driver. It has a clutch for driving screws and 2 speeds. It's small and compact. You can use the 1/4" drill bits. To me, it's the best of both worlds but you just don't have the impact feature which I don't find useful unless I'm driving screws through thick boards and don't care about stripping the heads. This is rare for general work around the house. So instead of carrying out a drill and driver, I just tote this small driver around. That's what I would recommend for DIYers.
I do HVAC and been doing it for 25 + years and I agree with you 100%. Too many people are using impact drills for work that requires a more delicate and precise approach.
Exactly what I use, hex shank drill bits but also have a hex shank chuck. Except I recently had to drill half inch holes for toggle bolts, and had to buy a cheap corded drill to fit a half inch drill bit because a large hex chuck was the same price as the cheap drill.
Drill- Packedge in typical box, came with a tool bag (added bonus), two batteries, one charger, drill, and driver. Two words "plenty of Torque" ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxW1vOBRCMrgTCDEijzpVzDWsgI-Jm2iQv well I guess that's three. Nice upgrade from current setup. Has belt clips, I don't think I will be using those. Driver and drill were bigger than what I expected but it is an upgrade from the current setup. For the money I would say that this is a great setup for Professionals and DIY/Weekend warriors.
I could be wrong but as a furniture mover i always use my impact and hand tools for assembly and disassembly the first sound of the hammer feature is a good reminder that whatever bolt or screw you’re going after is snug in position
Union pipefitter 19 yrs , restored cars built a cabin etc only using an impact driver . Honestly never saw the need for a drill even working sheet metal or more delicate materials . But to each their own . Good video 👍
Makita td172 impact driver for example, has 4 speed seetings plus 4 special modes, 2 for self tapping screws, 1 nut removal mode, 1 auto assist mode. Same for td171 which is released as xdt16 in US. Similarly other brands like milwaukee and dewalt provide at least 3 modes in their normal, non low end impacts. Yes they don't have a clutch mechanism but still td172 td171 are very precise in speed mode 2. Biggest advantage is I think they're super compact. Otherwise like for installing ikea I measured that even 5 newton meters is sufficient (I used an impact wrench to measure this for sure) and impacts have 180nm torque and drills usually have around 50nm hard torque so it is not much about power but compactness as for reason why impacts are so good, also they don't transfer the force to your arm so that's also very comfortable. Of course for very precise work clutch is useful but for general use I grab my impacts most of the time. Td712 is awesome grab one
Makita XTD16 has all the features and power, and is very small and lightweight. Great Impact. He is using one of the real low end Makita Impacts for the video
Interesting stuf. To me as a Dutch guy it seems the impactdriver is amazing for the american way of building home out of wood. Big bolts driven deep in timber. Here as a diy and brick homes it seems I never had the need for the impactdriver, but do always use the drill. From hammerdrilling concrete and stone to mount plugs and screws for a pictureframe or a tv. Drilling holes in metal and wood, and using the screw function to screw everything from electrical work to platserboards on the ceiling without overdriving the acrews to deep as the impact would do. Great tools, for their own field. Thanks for thebgreat video.
As a VERY old diy guy and have or used just about any tool you could think of I came into the best of both worlds. I got a Metabo (German version) SB 18ltx-3. It is a beast however it came with a second chuck that holds all the different driver bits. Has tremendous torque, 18v 5.5 Ah 1/2" hammer. The torque setting is fantastic 3 speed transmission also. Almost use it all the time. Chuck change is a push pull thing no tools or keys. Yes it was costly however I feel the set was well worth the dollars. Love your channel
I like how you made it clear that you personally bought these tools,you got good taste for sure! I work at a huge company and use drivers/drills every day and Milwaukee and Makita are all we use. I personally favor the Milwaukee fuel
Very well done. Great explaination on using the driver with a drill bit. I've seen quite a few bits get destroyed by using them with a driver tool. Also, those Diablo bits will rip your arm off in a drill tool especially the larger width bits. The are very aggressive, so if you've never used one, be carefull.
I own a big furniture store and I'm assembling everything, including in clients. I'm using Bosch GSB 18V- 60C. I don't think I will ever change it. It's my favorite toy out of all.
Many Makita impacts also have variable settings. In fact, I think Makita has the most complicated and extensive mode selector, which includes countersink, LED light timer, all kindsa stuff
Amazing video man 👏. We started doing some house projects and so I started browsing and came across this. A question I’ve always had is now answered. Imma pass this knowledge on to my kids one day 😁. Thanks ❤
I would probably say for most DIYers a drill is better due to its versatility and forgiving nature for the bits it can use (e.g. everything from great grandpa's hand me downs to straight of the hardware store shelf). Having both only really makes sense if your a professional since your doing alot of repetitive work. Deul welding saves having to switch out bits and potentially loosing them.
As a DIYer I use a new drill/driver set for every fastener I install. When building a deck I spent over 65 grand on new dewalt impact drivers because I just toss them after each use. Better safe than sorry.
@@gregkosinski2303 that is true and there's nothing wrong with having both. However generally I still feel the DIYer will get far more use out of the drill. Although I tend to generally favour fewer more versatile tools than a bunch of specificality ones.
Great tutorial but I am confused on one point. The impact driver has better torque but the drill has more flexibility and will stop when resisted (based on the current setting). For this reason isn't the drill better as it protects me from stripping stuff? For this reason I've only ever used a drill and didn't even know about impact drivers.
Impact drivers have their place like any tool, but I'd be lying if I said I had found many situations where an impact offered any real advantages. 90% of the time if I'm using one it's the drill.
I’ve always associated impact tools with nuts and bolts, like automotive repair for example, and drills for everything else. Make it’s just a matter of personal preference and experience these days.
I used both my "drills" to build raised beds for my spring garden. I used the drill to make pilot holes in 2x8x12 boards, then used the driver to join them together with 3 inch screws. It was too easy.
After seeing the mechanism in action, Another great demonstration for rotational impact involves using a flathead screwdriver and hammering it like a chisel on an angle, in order to back out stubborn machine screws. I learned this trick from an old aircraft mechanic and its saved me plenty of times. Just make sure your angle isn’t too aggressive, you want to make small taps sideways not down.
As a carpenter, I use a drill for wood drilling, all fine wordwork driving, and driving most phillips head screws. I use impact for rough framing using self-taping star screws and most other deck screws, light masonry drilling, hole saws, sheet metal screws, and hex screws for metal roofing. I use both concurrently when I need to pre-drill holes (much faster than switching bits): drill to drill, impact to drive.
Yea, the only reason I am thinking about getting an impact driver, is because I hate needing to stop swap drill bits to screwdriver bit. might increase the life of the drill a bit too.
Use both. I did a wood project recently when I was driving screws in the ends of boards connected to 4x4. I used the drill to create pilot holes so the wood would not split and then the impact driver to drive the screws l. Saved a lot of work, no more split boards, and less swearing. Just make sure you have a good battery for each so there is no swapping of batteries. Every little bit saves so much time!
Very well presented, good humor, great quality of sound and video and all the information is great structurated for an easy understanding. You are one of the few americans that did a great job on UA-cam, i'm kiding😂
I'm no expert but the only difference I'm aware of is that impact drivers have a 1/4" hex drive and impact wrenches have square drives and are generally capable of more torque
Regardless of whether you’re using a drill or an impact driver knowledge and skill is still needed and the operator needs to know how to use the tool and when to stop. Ultimately everything comes down to the operator. As a side note the speed settings on impact drivers tend to also reduce torque.
At end that's what I've just always done... Since the 80's Use drill then have impact "pre" set-up to Finish up. No one "tool Package" had ever really explained how/why to use Both properly together. So Great (needed) Video Thanks. WelderX
I learned so much from this video! I really have to commend you on your video editing and just your delivery style! Informative and fun to watch I appreciate it !
FRFR I look at a lot of UA-cam videos but this guy is really Nelly he gets straight to the business and not begging you to subscribe and ring the bell straight information with a good level of jokes perfect GJ
Great video!! In all honesty, as a hobbyist, I haven't really come across a scenario where a good drill isn't enough for driving screws in most things. Maybe big lag bolts are a problem? Driving 6x180 mm screws in wood when building my deck was easy as pie even for my mediocre drill
Thanks for the video. I wanted to show my nephew the differences and you did a great job of explaining and showing. But Damn.... Lol, I clicked on the link to the quick guide for when to use drill or impact and the guys selling it. Why not just give a little something to your viewers and subscribers. Wasn't expecting that
Nooo! You use the drill to drive screws too. Driver will strip the screw or the thread, or the hole. Driver has a lot of power behind each turn due to impact mechanism when it sees resistance.
Impact driver is not more efficient, it can have more torque because of the impacts. Did drywalling to help a buddy out, my drill with a 2Ah battery lasted half the day while his impact needed a fresh battery every hour or two. Impact driver gets noticeably warm (wasted energy). As far as max toque usually gear 2 has plenty of torque to drive large lag bolts if you can hold on 😅 If you learn to use the clutch on a drill you will be working faster and can have better work, BUT it's heavier and makes your hands and wrists work harder for it Long->Short; impacts drivers are slightly more "controllable" and have much less strain on the wrist while being lighter I tell people to use impacts if they didn't grow up using power tools, far safer
I argue about this with people all the time when I see videos of people racing different brands with big lag bolts. The equivalent drill would beat all of them if they knew how to use it properly.
I have both and was not sure of the different use cases, so this video clarified it all. Now I want to see if I can use my impact driver on car wheel studs for changing the winter/summer tires over. Also, it seems that a hammer drill is stronger at hammering than an impact driver for the force of the hammering.
Wait I'm totally surprised I was expecting a video in which impact drills are connected to regular drills and do basically a "turn of War" against each other - to see which is stronger :o
Impacts are like automatic transmissions. Good enough for anyone who can squeeze a trigger. You have to know how to use a drill, to use a drill effectively.
I’m a DIY with limited knowledge and this straight forward instructional video was very helpful and I’m very glad I watched and appreciate the your time to make this video Thanks 13:27
I was seeing a lot of Amazon reviews from professionals about a year ago because they were upset that a lot of these impact driver w/ drill sets actually give you an electric screwdriver made to look like an impact driver but is nowhere near as durable or useful. The last set we got was this way AND were both sparking like mad within a year of use. In that year we used it maybe 4 times. So much for DeWalt making quality products.
I think the main reason most people use impact drivers is because they think it sounds cool and so then they feel like they're cool too when they use it. I find impact drivers unnecessary for 99% of the tasks people actually use them for and all it really accomplishes is annoying the f* out of everyone within a mile radius. I've been doing construction for almost 20 years and I basically never use my impact driver because a regular drill driver is more than capable of accomplishing most jobs and it's also a lot quieter and more precise.
Agreed. Drill is more universal if you have to have 1 tool, but having both is optimal. Pilot holes with fastener is a very common combo for me, keep both tools on hand with the proper bits to just switch between as necessary without having to swap bits or batteries
0:13 "if your looking to buy a drill or driver you almost are always gonna find them in a set".......???? WHAT? No that is not true at all, you can totally buy them separately LITERALLY EVERY WHERE THEY ARE SOLD! ....Either I am throughly confused and misunderstanding your comment here, or your comment was so stupid it is literally not understandable.
Got a '85 LandCruiser. A battery power impact driver is a lifesaver off road. Pro Tip: Get an inverter. Plug the driver charger in and keep a spare battery on that + one on the driver. Of course, a cordless impact gun, particularly a stubby, just wrenching around the fleet is pretty handy too.
the exact information I was looking for! Just watched two other videos telling me pros and cons but not really explaining or showing the difference. Thanks!
Thank you for this video. Very professional and informative. Until I saw this video I was using Bosch drill for almost 3 years for driving screws. It helped me many times but I didnt know what was I using. Now I will need to buy DeWalt impact driver. :)
fantastic explanation, thank you very much. as a first time home owner and learning to DIY as I go (for the small jobs...I still call the professionals for the big stuff). thank you!
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hi, I have a question about the t shirts ....I like the fit that you are wearing, but the ones on the website look weird. Are they the same style?
@@UncleIvan1 They are the same, yes. I actually order them directly from that same site. Obviously I always wear the red ones, but it’s the exact shirt - just in various colors.
Why is it pixelated?
Do screw nd drill come combine
I m from India. Which is the best
I work in the HVAC/R trade, and WAY too many techs use the impact drivers, which straps out the sheet metal screws. I agree 100% with the fact that people need to know HOW, when and where to USE their tools.
My makita DTD171 I got in 2019 has 2 tech settings for metal screws. Works like a charm. Use it for steel stud framing and it's never stripped one.
Thanks for this advice I'm HVAC apprentice and I'm about two weeks away from graduating and I'm deciding between drill and impact do you have any advice for a young tech?
@@hotfeva9843 just be willing to work hard and long hours, at times. Be willing to learn new ways, as equipment is changing.
Impacts aren’t bad for that. In mode 1.
I think sheet metal settings are becoming a thing because of this…. Maybe people just aren’t using the right setting 🤷♂️
This was wonderfully informative. There are so many videos talking about “what’s the best brand” and “which tool to use” but they never fully explain how exactly they work and the reason you want to use it for certain jobs.
And I wonder why.
These trades have existed for so long for so called experts to know nothing about the tools they use.
I’m shocked everyday.
100%
Thank you Nils! I just found this video and it's the first time I've come across your channel. I don't have a heap of tradie (Aussie for laborer) knowledge, but just enough to identify most tools/machinery and know roughly what they're used for. As a chick, I like to challenge myself to figure out how to fix things for the knowledge and independence it gives.
Too often I get recommended approaches (online and in person) with information that doesn't give the detail of how it works, the pros and cons, etc. Your communication style allowed me to understand the terminology, what features do, and when to decide to use them. I love this because it'll help me plan my approach to a task that prevents the f'up factor! I'm about to start my most challenging project yet, so this will be invaluable!
but gurIs think impact driver and drill are all the same tho, which is they all use to drill stuff.
Been in the trade for 20 years and always wondered why the impact driver battery always lasted longer than on my drill. Excellent video loved it
Wow 20 years
One point I feel you may have missed. The continuous torque of the drill contributes to cam out of the driver bit. The pulsing force of the impact driver allows the bit to fully engage with the fastener between blows. It is therefore always fully inserted into the head of the fastener.
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@@mattpennoyer9341 What’s so funny? I agree with Philip and so do a lot of other people
@@nole8923 I believe he and I share a childish sense of humor, thus the chuckles come from talk of a pulsing force and fully inserted head in between blows.
I'm not saying you're wrong but I have trouble wrapping my head around why that should be the case. Could it be that it's more because of operator interaction with the tool? Maybe you tend to hold the impact driver more securely because of the feedback coming from it and with the drill that feels like it is operating more smoothly you tend to let off your control.
@@mattmexor2882 no, you can just "hold" an impact while driving a screw but with a drill, it'll strip the head even with all your weight on the drill.
Best video I’ve watched on this topic. When I ask my carpenter buddy, he says the voltage isn’t that important in commercial applications but he always gets the batteries with the longest run time so he’s not having to switch out all the time. He’s also told me that those 40v hand tools can break your wrist if they bind up.
I’m a mover/delivery driver damn near by trade and one of my tools of choice is an old Makita driver I was gifted years back. Compact, ergonomic, and the battery life make it an absolute workhorse. I wondered why people would use anything else. Years of using it have trained my finger to know how much pressure I need to apply on the trigger to avoid stripping holes for hinges and fasteners but this video was really enlightening.
Wow I'm a professional mover / deliver business owner myself. As I gotten many tools over the year my Makita impact w/ battery life is still with me & refuse to die. 😂
I am a self employed plumber. I carry the Makita drill and impact, but I have the Milwaukee M12 impact and a few other M12 tools. My main go to is the M12 impact. Love this tool to death. Great video.
m12 batterys last longer then my m18s lmao 🤷🏾
@@clittle1559m12 batteries last longer due to lower voltage and lower power output, the m18 series was meant for p o w e r
Wow - you covered so much ! Very cool.
2 things in my experience….
The driver truly excels over a drill for screws - I did 3000 screws in a fence. I don’t think the Phillips head slipped once; which happens often with a drill…… no special amount of forward pressure needed. It was basically dummy proof: it drove the screws fast at first, then kicked on the impact toward the end. Since the impact has a short kick (like an expensive ratchet), it is very easy to make fine turns to finish off the countersink - again, without popping out of the screw head.
Also, using the impact for drilling has shown me some troubles (non-impact bits)- such as breaking the bit tip or getting a messy whole due to torque and too much bite….. a drill is easier to ‘feel’ and adjust speed and pressure.
Thanks for info.
Grace and Peace to you and yours
Thanks! Great info and you showed lots of options.
An impact driver will prevent stripping the heads out of screws, or help remove screws that are already a little stripped. It does a much better job at driving long screws. A standard driver might bog down or bend or snap a long deck screw, but an impact driver puts it in easily. And with much less fatigue because you don't have to push so hard to drive it.
It will even remove lug nuts.
This is what I thought too, but in the video he shows an impact driver stripping a screw... I'm confused now
The biggest plus for an impact driver for me is the fact that they are so much easier on your hand & wrist. When drilling with a drill bit, your hand & wrist take the majority of the torque to keep the drill bit engaging. The larger the bit, the more force it takes to keep drilling. With a driver, the torque used to drive the drill bit comes from the driver. There is very little torque going to your hand & wrist. A good example is to take a powerful 3/4" drill and try drilling a 3/4" hole through a 10" pole. Then take a good impact driver powerful enough to drill a 3/4" bit through that same 10" pole and feel the difference.
Not everyone has 5 days to drill the hole with an impact driver, most would like to complete it in 5-10 seconds with a drill and a good bit. Try a 4" hole saw on an impact driver some day.
Actually you use the clutch function on the drill and it will stop the kick back.
@@espressomatic
Don’t know what you are talking about. I’ve always drilled faster with an impact drill. A regular drill slows down with resistance and you have to use your own muscle to get the job done. With an impact drill it does most of the work.
Do you also sit down when you piss?
Haha
Can relate.
Used to have to use a goodsize holesaw all the time and that thing could buck.
This was a really cool video! Nicely done! The self tapping feature is great on modern impact drivers. I was working on a bunch of steel doors today and it made quick work of them. No stripped screws or holes.
I just assumed it was for drilling holes, must give it a try
Wow, the part where you cut a hole in the side of the driver was incredible! So easy to understand!
I love the Ryobi ‘Quiet Strike’ pulse driver. It’s been my go-to for over 5 years. Yes, I know. Ryobi is not thought of as ‘construction grade’ equipment. I do handyman and general contracting as a side job and have a plethora of Ryobi products. Admittedly, some are not up to task, but all their more ‘capable’ products have served me very well and have lasted quite long. This Quiet Strike acts like a drill/driver with impact function as torque demands.
ryobi is junk compared to ...... in order Hilti , DeWalt . Milwaukee, makita, then ryobi and you should get the drill and impact
@@joekubec9853 Disagree. Ryobi provide greater value if you buy their higher end tools tools. Yes they have a few worthless ones that I wouldn’t waste my money on, but most of the ones I have are beaten up, abused, dropped, and worked hard with little to complain about. Especially the brushless and HP+ line. Only one drill has failed me from the old blue NiCd days and my non-brushless hammer drill finally has a wobbling shaft after 6 years of drilling concrete and brick. When I replace it with the newest model I’ll have still spent less than a Milwaukee or Hilti.
But hey, to each their own.
@@JuanMartinez-gu8sh Yeah honestly man I would try and reason with this flop, whatever gets the job done and doesn't cost you a ridiculous amount of money.
@@JuanMartinez-gu8sh I had a 9.6V Ni Cad Makita drill. I used it for close to 20 years. That same battery slowly died over the years, but was enough for whatever I needed a cordless drill for (I have corded drills too).
I eventually bought new no-name batteries for it. But then my basement flooded last winter and the drill and batteries just stopped working (rusted to crap). I bought a new Ryobi One PLus drill to replace it.
Hello. So the quiet strike is like a drill and driver in one?
Beign able to visualize the rotaional impact was so helpful in my understanding of how impact drivers worked. Thank you so much for cutting a drill to share!
This is as thorough an explanation as I have heard between an impact and a driver tool. Thank you for that.
This is amazing. You just taught me something on how to use my drill. I never knew what the stuff meant on the drill and since my dad passed a few years ago I’ve just been winging it.
As long as you're careful with it, you can use an impact driver for 80-90 percent of what a drill can do. Drills are still very necessary however for needing to use larger drill bits, as well as the fact that the chuck allows you to use a larger variety of bits compared to an impact driver that's only limited to bits that have the 1/4" collet in them.
When you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail. They have two very different purposes and while you can definitely overlap use, you really shouldn't.
How can you use a driver for 80 or 90% of what a drill will do?? If you have to buy special bits, you have narrowed it's usefulness to nearly nothing. Can you use holesaws? Augers? Taps? Masonry bits? Paint mixers? Wire brushes? Etc? I would hardly consider using standard drill bits 80 to 90% of a drill's job. The driver has one job, driving. The drill handles all jobs. If you want to use a driver as a drill, it's yours and can be used however you want.................but, saying that you use your driver as a hammer, doesn't make it better than a hammer.
@@ronniestanley75 half the stuff you listed have impact compatible bits, including hole saw
@@phantomarcher9590 Why would anyone use an impact driver with a hole saw? 🙄
@@wulf67 simple. Because they can. And because it works
its so weird cause i was debating whether to use a drill or driver rn for a simple little thing i was about to do and saw you just uploaded this lol. awesome info man you explain things perfect 🤙🏽
I use my impact 90% of the time. It stays with me in my tool bag, where my drill stays in my truck unless I there’s something I can’t do with my impact: I have a few sets of drill bits that fit my impact. It’s a very versatile tool, my go to.
That's pretty much where I'm at too. Impact for anything I can, drill where it can't or shouldn't. The size, battery life and convenience of the impact just can't be beat.
@@LRN2DIY right? The impact is my most used tool. I just bought a new one too. I’ve had my old Dewalt, 18 and 20 volts for years and I treated myself right before Christmas to a brand new Dewalt brushless, 3 speed, 20 volt impact. Man it’s nice. It’s way smoother than my old ones. I even used it to remove the lug nuts on my wife’s Rav 4 yesterday when I changed her tire. I used the number 3 speed which makes it have 150 foot pounds of torque. Took em off like butter runnin down a bisquit. 😀
My old 20 volt didn’t have the 3 speed selector and didn’t have as much torque. It’s kinda fun being a construction guy because you get to buy new tools like a kid being able to buy their own toys. God knows I use my tools daily so why not buy good ones.
@@LRN2DIY impacts are great when you don't care about hearing loss.
Those suckers are pretty loud and annoying. Here in Germany Noone uses them really
@@SuperDeinVadda another fellow german! drills are the way. Don't get the americans and their love for impact drivers.
You can tell who actually gets stuff done. Impacts vs drills. Lol isn't it interesting how a lot of things in life are this way 😇
I have wondered for YEARS about the internal differences... thank you so much for finally putting my mind to rest
Having a short impact driver like the dcf850 has sure come in handy more then once! I personally use the clutch on my drill for drilling holes In steel when I know the bit could get stuck especially with a smaller size.
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Wow.
I seriously almost never “like…comment…subscribe”. Especially after one video.
I just did. Very impressive. High quality content
You’ve taught me something I’ve always wanted to know, but no one else could really explain. Thanks.
Fantastic video start to finish. Especially liked the humor, the educational focus (as opposed to selling/promoting), the examples/stories (dad/boat wheel) shared, the slo-mo vid of the cut-out impact driver showing the actual mechanism at work (that was a highlight!), and the reference material/poster provided as a bonus! Great, beginning to end. Thank you!!!
What I use most around the house is the Bosch 1/4 inch bit pocket driver. It has a clutch for driving screws and 2 speeds. It's small and compact. You can use the 1/4" drill bits. To me, it's the best of both worlds but you just don't have the impact feature which I don't find useful unless I'm driving screws through thick boards and don't care about stripping the heads. This is rare for general work around the house. So instead of carrying out a drill and driver, I just tote this small driver around. That's what I would recommend for DIYers.
Great feedback. I have one of those too! Just got it the other day to try. Great little set.
Agree completely. As a woodworker/diyer, I haven't felt the need to grab the impact. My installation driver does the vast majority of the work.
I do HVAC and been doing it for 25 + years and I agree with you 100%. Too many people are using impact drills for work that requires a more delicate and precise approach.
Exactly what I use, hex shank drill bits but also have a hex shank chuck. Except I recently had to drill half inch holes for toggle bolts, and had to buy a cheap corded drill to fit a half inch drill bit because a large hex chuck was the same price as the cheap drill.
I respect you. You are a good man and even better indiviual due to the fact that you explain us what to use and when. Thanks, again.
Finally explained perfectly so it's easy to distinguish between the two. Thank you
Drill- Packedge in typical box, came with a tool bag (added bonus), two batteries, one charger, drill, and driver. Two words "plenty of Torque" ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxW1vOBRCMrgTCDEijzpVzDWsgI-Jm2iQv well I guess that's three. Nice upgrade from current setup. Has belt clips, I don't think I will be using those. Driver and drill were bigger than what I expected but it is an upgrade from the current setup. For the money I would say that this is a great setup for Professionals and DIY/Weekend warriors.
I now know many things I never knew about my drill/impact driver set! I appreciate the new information!
I could be wrong but as a furniture mover i always use my impact and hand tools for assembly and disassembly the first sound of the hammer feature is a good reminder that whatever bolt or screw you’re going after is snug in position
I have watched 100's of DYI and tool review vids, yours is right up there in my top five, Bravo!
Wow, thanks!
I love a great teacher. I learned so much from this video and it was clear, concise, with no filler and no sponsors! Love it.
Union pipefitter 19 yrs , restored cars built a cabin etc only using an impact driver . Honestly never saw the need for a drill even working sheet metal or more delicate materials . But to each their own . Good video 👍
Makita td172 impact driver for example, has 4 speed seetings plus 4 special modes, 2 for self tapping screws, 1 nut removal mode, 1 auto assist mode. Same for td171 which is released as xdt16 in US. Similarly other brands like milwaukee and dewalt provide at least 3 modes in their normal, non low end impacts. Yes they don't have a clutch mechanism but still td172 td171 are very precise in speed mode 2. Biggest advantage is I think they're super compact. Otherwise like for installing ikea I measured that even 5 newton meters is sufficient (I used an impact wrench to measure this for sure) and impacts have 180nm torque and drills usually have around 50nm hard torque so it is not much about power but compactness as for reason why impacts are so good, also they don't transfer the force to your arm so that's also very comfortable. Of course for very precise work clutch is useful but for general use I grab my impacts most of the time. Td712 is awesome grab one
Makita XTD16 has all the features and power, and is very small and lightweight. Great Impact. He is using one of the real low end Makita Impacts for the video
In my humble opinion. The impact driver is not annoying but In fact sounds cool. For sure my favorite tool to use.
Same with anything with a ratcheting mechanism they also sound nice
Thanks for sharing , loved the tool break down.
Interesting stuf.
To me as a Dutch guy it seems the impactdriver is amazing for the american way of building home out of wood. Big bolts driven deep in timber.
Here as a diy and brick homes it seems I never had the need for the impactdriver, but do always use the drill. From hammerdrilling concrete and stone to mount plugs and screws for a pictureframe or a tv. Drilling holes in metal and wood, and using the screw function to screw everything from electrical work to platserboards on the ceiling without overdriving the acrews to deep as the impact would do.
Great tools, for their own field. Thanks for thebgreat video.
As a VERY old diy guy and have or used just about any tool you could think of I came into the best of both worlds. I got a Metabo (German version) SB 18ltx-3. It is a beast however it came with a second chuck that holds all the different driver bits. Has tremendous torque, 18v 5.5 Ah 1/2" hammer. The torque setting is fantastic 3 speed transmission also. Almost use it all the time. Chuck change is a push pull thing no tools or keys. Yes it was costly however I feel the set was well worth the dollars. Love your channel
Good teacher I have seen these tools sold together for the first time now I know the difference Thank you
I'm a wife trying to buy the right gift and I really appreciate this 😂❤
I like how you made it clear that you personally bought these tools,you got good taste for sure! I work at a huge company and use drivers/drills every day and Milwaukee and Makita are all we use. I personally favor the Milwaukee fuel
Very well done.
Great explaination on using the driver with a drill bit.
I've seen quite a few bits get destroyed by using them with a driver tool.
Also, those Diablo bits will rip your arm off in a drill tool especially the larger width bits. The are very aggressive, so if you've never used one, be carefull.
If you don't destroy the bit, there's also a chance you'll destroy the stuff you're drilling into.
I own a big furniture store and I'm assembling everything, including in clients.
I'm using Bosch GSB 18V- 60C.
I don't think I will ever change it. It's my favorite toy out of all.
Many Makita impacts also have variable settings. In fact, I think Makita has the most complicated and extensive mode selector, which includes countersink, LED light timer, all kindsa stuff
Thank you for sharing. In my early 30’s now and this is knowledge that I did not know.
Amazing video man 👏. We started doing some house projects and so I started browsing and came across this. A question I’ve always had is now answered. Imma pass this knowledge on to my kids one day 😁. Thanks ❤
Thanks!
Thank you so much!
I would probably say for most DIYers a drill is better due to its versatility and forgiving nature for the bits it can use (e.g. everything from great grandpa's hand me downs to straight of the hardware store shelf).
Having both only really makes sense if your a professional since your doing alot of repetitive work. Deul welding saves having to switch out bits and potentially loosing them.
As a DIYer I use a new drill/driver set for every fastener I install. When building a deck I spent over 65 grand on new dewalt impact drivers because I just toss them after each use. Better safe than sorry.
@gnarkilleptic4871 Jesus christ just get a nice impact
I agree with you in theory, but nowadays the combos are so cheap that might as well get both and hopefully two batteries with the set.
@@gregkosinski2303 that is true and there's nothing wrong with having both. However generally I still feel the DIYer will get far more use out of the drill.
Although I tend to generally favour fewer more versatile tools than a bunch of specificality ones.
@@Johnson_2022 oh 100% if you have to have one, for sure get a drill
Dewd...very helpful. I finally bought my own set after my step-dad passed away; he taught me a lot.
Love how the drill bit just snaps at 1:42
Great video man, you have an excellent, calm, pleasant way of presenting. I wish you well.
Great tutorial but I am confused on one point. The impact driver has better torque but the drill has more flexibility and will stop when resisted (based on the current setting). For this reason isn't the drill better as it protects me from stripping stuff? For this reason I've only ever used a drill and didn't even know about impact drivers.
I only used a drill for yrs toooooo
Impact drivers have their place like any tool, but I'd be lying if I said I had found many situations where an impact offered any real advantages. 90% of the time if I'm using one it's the drill.
@@dudeistpriest787 You're doing it right.
I’ve always associated impact tools with nuts and bolts, like automotive repair for example, and drills for everything else. Make it’s just a matter of personal preference and experience these days.
Same. Except for rusty crews.
I used the Impact Driver when I arrived in Canada, It is so amazing than other tools, I never used it before, and it is so crazy can replace a drill.
I used both my "drills" to build raised beds for my spring garden.
I used the drill to make pilot holes in 2x8x12 boards, then used the driver to join them together with 3 inch screws.
It was too easy.
As someone who doesn't use tools very often, this was immensely helpful. Thank you so much
After seeing the mechanism in action, Another great demonstration for rotational impact involves using a flathead screwdriver and hammering it like a chisel on an angle, in order to back out stubborn machine screws. I learned this trick from an old aircraft mechanic and its saved me plenty of times. Just make sure your angle isn’t too aggressive, you want to make small taps sideways not down.
As a carpenter, I use a drill for wood drilling, all fine wordwork driving, and driving most phillips head screws. I use impact for rough framing using self-taping star screws and most other deck screws, light masonry drilling, hole saws, sheet metal screws, and hex screws for metal roofing. I use both concurrently when I need to pre-drill holes (much faster than switching bits): drill to drill, impact to drive.
Yea, the only reason I am thinking about getting an impact driver, is because I hate needing to stop swap drill bits to screwdriver bit. might increase the life of the drill a bit too.
They really are great to make jobs faster as an additional driving method and for their torque too. Hopefully it helps you work faster!
Use both. I did a wood project recently when I was driving screws in the ends of boards connected to 4x4. I used the drill to create pilot holes so the wood would not split and then the impact driver to drive the screws l. Saved a lot of work, no more split boards, and less swearing. Just make sure you have a good battery for each so there is no swapping of batteries. Every little bit saves so much time!
Very well presented, good humor, great quality of sound and video and all the information is great structurated for an easy understanding.
You are one of the few americans that did a great job on UA-cam, i'm kiding😂
Super helpful! Can you go into the difference between an impact driver and a impact wrench next?
I'm no expert but the only difference I'm aware of is that impact drivers have a 1/4" hex drive and impact wrenches have square drives and are generally capable of more torque
Impact drivers = lower torque, higher rpms
Impact wrenches = higher torque, lower rpms
13+ minutes? Why so long for a drill vs. driver video?? OH, I see now; there's a lot to learn. Thank you Nils.
If I had to ask one of my HVAC bosses about this, they’d have just called me a homophobic slur and ruined my tools lmao
I know man so true
Damn pansy !!!!
Wow great people.
Same dude
Thank you, brother. This video is really helpful. Though I’m just a hobbyist, the different power tools and where to use them is really mind-boggling.
Regardless of whether you’re using a drill or an impact driver knowledge and skill is still needed and the operator needs to know how to use the tool and when to stop.
Ultimately everything comes down to the operator. As a side note the speed settings on impact drivers tend to also reduce torque.
At end that's what I've just always done... Since the 80's Use drill then have impact "pre" set-up to Finish up. No one "tool Package" had ever really explained how/why to use Both properly together. So Great (needed) Video Thanks. WelderX
THANK YOU for a very informative video! Well explained in layman's terms, very understandable.
Thank you very much. I just realised I don't need an impact driver. Just an impact wrench. With the driver attachment.
Basically impacts for impacting and drills for drilling.
I learned so much from this video! I really have to commend you on your video editing and just your delivery style! Informative and fun to watch I appreciate it !
Love these recent informative videos! Have been learning a lot that I have taken for granted in the past 👍👍
Like your presentation. Clear, quick, concise and humorous. Subscribed 🎉
FRFR I look at a lot of UA-cam videos but this guy is really Nelly he gets straight to the business and not begging you to subscribe and ring the bell straight information with a good level of jokes perfect GJ
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Great video!! In all honesty, as a hobbyist, I haven't really come across a scenario where a good drill isn't enough for driving screws in most things. Maybe big lag bolts are a problem? Driving 6x180 mm screws in wood when building my deck was easy as pie even for my mediocre drill
Using both because changing your weapon is always faster than reloading your bits 😜
Thanks for the video. I wanted to show my nephew the differences and you did a great job of explaining and showing. But Damn.... Lol, I clicked on the link to the quick guide for when to use drill or impact and the guys selling it. Why not just give a little something to your viewers and subscribers. Wasn't expecting that
You use a “drill” to Drill holes and you use a “driver” to drive screws.
Nooo! You use the drill to drive screws too. Driver will strip the screw or the thread, or the hole. Driver has a lot of power behind each turn due to impact mechanism when it sees resistance.
@@TheRealHululuLearn how to use the tool properly
I'll be starting a new position as a drives/motor tech soon, and this information is invaluable to someone with no prior background.
Impact driver is not more efficient, it can have more torque because of the impacts. Did drywalling to help a buddy out, my drill with a 2Ah battery lasted half the day while his impact needed a fresh battery every hour or two. Impact driver gets noticeably warm (wasted energy). As far as max toque usually gear 2 has plenty of torque to drive large lag bolts if you can hold on 😅
If you learn to use the clutch on a drill you will be working faster and can have better work, BUT it's heavier and makes your hands and wrists work harder for it
Long->Short; impacts drivers are slightly more "controllable" and have much less strain on the wrist while being lighter
I tell people to use impacts if they didn't grow up using power tools, far safer
I argue about this with people all the time when I see videos of people racing different brands with big lag bolts. The equivalent drill would beat all of them if they knew how to use it properly.
I wasnt sure if i should buy an impact driver or impact drill, now i know - Thanks
Great overage of these two tools. I am almost always using them in tandem, drill then drive.
I have both and was not sure of the different use cases, so this video clarified it all. Now I want to see if I can use my impact driver on car wheel studs for changing the winter/summer tires over. Also, it seems that a hammer drill is stronger at hammering than an impact driver for the force of the hammering.
Wait I'm totally surprised I was expecting a video in which impact drills are connected to regular drills and do basically a "turn of War" against each other - to see which is stronger :o
Good old clickbait lol i was here for the same thing you were :(
Yep gotta love the thumbnail mislead
I was expecting to watch multiple UA-cam videos to get all the relevant information by bits and pieces. Saw yours, all my questions answered. 👍👍
Impacts are like automatic transmissions. Good enough for anyone who can squeeze a trigger. You have to know how to use a drill, to use a drill effectively.
I’m a DIY with limited knowledge and this straight forward instructional video was very helpful and I’m very glad I watched and appreciate the your time to make this video
Thanks 13:27
Thank you.. I have a drill and impact drill and didn’t know the difference… now I know…
I was seeing a lot of Amazon reviews from professionals about a year ago because they were upset that a lot of these impact driver w/ drill sets actually give you an electric screwdriver made to look like an impact driver but is nowhere near as durable or useful.
The last set we got was this way AND were both sparking like mad within a year of use. In that year we used it maybe 4 times. So much for DeWalt making quality products.
This is awesome, great video, I learnt heaps from it.
This is the kind of stuff that you never actually get taught, so thank you do much.
I think the main reason most people use impact drivers is because they think it sounds cool and so then they feel like they're cool too when they use it. I find impact drivers unnecessary for 99% of the tasks people actually use them for and all it really accomplishes is annoying the f* out of everyone within a mile radius. I've been doing construction for almost 20 years and I basically never use my impact driver because a regular drill driver is more than capable of accomplishing most jobs and it's also a lot quieter and more precise.
Fact. Impact drivers destroy a lot of things too especially in the hands of the inexperienced.
@@jcm9273the benefit of impact driver is with very hard and thick wood
Agreed. Drill is more universal if you have to have 1 tool, but having both is optimal. Pilot holes with fastener is a very common combo for me, keep both tools on hand with the proper bits to just switch between as necessary without having to swap bits or batteries
0:13 "if your looking to buy a drill or driver you almost are always gonna find them in a set".......???? WHAT? No that is not true at all, you can totally buy them separately LITERALLY EVERY WHERE THEY ARE SOLD! ....Either I am throughly confused and misunderstanding your comment here, or your comment was so stupid it is literally not understandable.
It’s not that deep 🤡
@@karlosbravo6046 That's what your mom said!
Got a '85 LandCruiser. A battery power impact driver is a lifesaver off road. Pro Tip: Get an inverter. Plug the driver charger in and keep a spare battery on that + one on the driver. Of course, a cordless impact gun, particularly a stubby, just wrenching around the fleet is pretty handy too.
the exact information I was looking for! Just watched two other videos telling me pros and cons but not really explaining or showing the difference. Thanks!
You answered questions that I have had since I bought my impact driver thank you so much.
Thank you for this video. Very professional and informative. Until I saw this video I was using Bosch drill for almost 3 years for driving screws. It helped me many times but I didnt know what was I using. Now I will need to buy DeWalt impact driver. :)
fantastic explanation, thank you very much. as a first time home owner and learning to DIY as I go (for the small jobs...I still call the professionals for the big stuff). thank you!