Pedal Settings: How to find the BEST Pedal Settings (as a Beginner of Double Bass Drumming)
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- Опубліковано 10 тра 2024
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This is a tutorial about how to find the best pedal settings if you are a beginner of double bass drumming.
Enjoy!
Chapter Overview:
0:00 Instruction
2:32 Seat Position for Double Bass Drumming
3:47 Where and how to set up the Double Bass Pedal
5:01 Beater Distance
6:18 Spring Tension
6:51 Beater Height
7:28 Footboard Angle
7:45 Equipment
8:15 Trouble Shooting
8:25 The Double Bass Pedal feels to heavy
8:48 Missing some notes
8:59 The Pedals feels very light and you don`t have control
9:25 Conclusion and Outro
Thanks for watching!
Mentioned Equipment:
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Here is the teased tutorial about how to find the best double bass pedal settings (mainly for double bass beginners). Make sure to check out the video description for the mentioned equipment and a chapter overview. Enjoy!
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Wanja [Nechtan] Gröger I have some problems with my spring tension, the things you need to turn under the springs, are weirdly made, they have a kind of star shaped thing where you can adjust the tension which makes it really hard to adjust it, also it makes it quite litterally impossible to adjust it beyond a certain point, which makes it so the springs on my left pedal are extremely tight whereas the ones on the right ones are kinda loose, the height of the beater is almost the same for the two
I have long boards speed cobras but I don't know the exact model, it should be mid-high tier gear
Wanja [Nechtan] Gröger are good iron cobra pedals for beginners?
@serious casual gamer: I never owned speed cobras so i don't have any tips there - did you contact the Tama customer service?
@Marco: I think they are pretty good pedals!
hey what do you think about cymbal China 18 brillant series? its good for metal?
This is a great place to start, as a drummer for 15 years who's just purchased a double bass pedal for the first time.
Try to learn bleed by Messugah for your first song
@@Brandonbikes yawn overplayed and overmemed
Lmfao ok noob
@@Anonymous_________ I've been playing drums and percussion since 2004, a variety of genres, settings and performances. I'm aware of the rudimentary work and patterns in the song, but if you'd read the original comment I've owned the double bass pedal for one of the nearly twenty years I've been performing. So if I can't do perform double strokes with my left foot I assure you some moron on the internet calling me a noob is hardly going to bother me lmao.
Some ultra talented pro drummers only play single kick.
Wanja, I appreciate the way you explain things so precisely and with humility. You're a fantastic drummer. Your style certainly isnt close to my own, but I implement your teaching to my drum 'health' and exercises push my playing to be far easier. I like that you play different pedals in different videos, which tells me that the instrument isnt as important as the player. ; )'
Very informative and definitely a great place to start for a beginner! I remember feeling overwhelmed with all the adjustment options available when I first started playing double bass and I wish I had a video like this to help me sort it all out. Keep up the great work dude, you are awesome!
I found this very helpful. As a self-taught drummer mostly I never really learned about these things when I was younger. Most of the time I avoid playing double bass because I'm simply not good enough at it. I think this will help me make some major improvements so thank you!
Thank you soooo much!! Exactly the explanation I was looking for. ALSO thank you for making it in English for us.
Ive been playing drums for almost 16 years and I have never been able to find a comfortable pedal settings.
Well that's discouraging! I've been playing for about a year, and am still messing with my spring settings!
Maybe its me bro, don’t get discouraged.
@@Allinguts thanks man!
Also a tip is the further back your beater travel is the more spring tension this creates. So if you prefer your beater back to an avg 45 degree angle you will need less spring tension than a metal drummer who uses a closer to the head beater distance. Pearls springs are a bit stronger than other manufacturers also.
Low tension on a pearl eliminator is about the same as mid tension on a iron cobra. So it amazes me that some people still max out their pearl pedals like this talented dude.
Wanja [Nechtan] Gröger thanks for all the videos. They have been helping me a lot.
This is a great video, I've been playing Pearl Eliminators for years and I always question if my settings are optimal. This helps settle a lot of self doubt.
I've drummed for years but these are still helpful tips. I'll have to apply many of these tips. Thanks
Very helpful!! Just got my double pedal today, this helped so much more than most videos I’ve watched so far!
Thx alot, i found new life for my Pearls when started to play with different settings inspired by your video. Also improved my double play technique alot. Keep it up, good work.
The most accurate video I've seen out there, great job and thanks for sharing!
This channel is the best, great work man.
Thank you so much. I have been looking for a video just like this. A complete beginner looking at a bass pedal for the first time really sucks. It took me 2 weeks to figure out what was going on. I was trying to play with the spring tension from the top where you alter the angle. As you can tell it wasn't working out lol thanks again man. You're the boss of UA-cam drummers.
I'm from Brazil. I and my friends are very inspired by you. Thanks and continue with the videos.
Nice to hear that. Thanks to you and your friends for watching and supporting, too!
I'm a guitar player, but I love watching your videos playing and videos like that. Do you want to cover death metal songs?
Really well done. Getting into the details really helps me troubleshoot where my problems might be. Thanks!!
Great comprehensive vid🤙🏽 thanks😎
Hi, Wanja. Your approach is what different when you are playing. I however, find your explanations very HELPFULL. Thanks
Yo my man! Great video - so very useful and you explain everything very well 🙏🏻💪🏻
Hey Wanja! Thanks for your knowledge!! really appreciate your teachings...
greetings from Ibiza, keep it up!
I like your extreme german accent 🤣🤣
Gutes Video, danke für die Tipps
Excellent detailed explanation as all ways great job and great playing too ( I subbed)
Thank you so much, very helpful!
That video was super-informative! You are very knowledgeable and I appreciate you sharing it in that well-made video. Sick drumming too!!!
Thanks for appreciating!
Not gonna lie but probably one of the best or maybe the best bass Drum I’ve ever heard!
U are 2 good! thanks for all the videos u made/make!! you made my drumming so much easier!
This video was super helpful for a beginner in double bass like me! Thanks a lot and keep up the good work👍🔥
Man, you just saved me! Thank you and keep going!
thanks a lot Wanja, even as an intermediate double bass drummer this was quiet helpful, especially the part where you talk about the common issues one might have with the pedal settings. beste grüße aus Deutschland !
Danke! Beste Grüße zurück!
Thank you for this explanation!!
very well explained. when i started i had mapex double pedals that were rusted and junk. honestly now after playing speed cobra and demon drives i kinda wish i still had them to prove that you can do everything on cheap pedals as expensive ones
Awesome explanation!
Well done Nechtan!
Thank you!
Very helpful thx bro 4 the tips keep up the good work.
Great video again! Wish you'd brought this one out a year ago, think i've just about found my settings now!
The best explanation 🙏🏼🤘🏼🤜🏻🤛🏻
Nice video! I'm a beginner and just bought a cheap double pedal. I've messed around with it but I want to see how other people sets up their own. Great video, I've learned many things from you. Hope I can reach your level of drumming
Great tutorial. The base drum sound sick
Thanks!
Thanks, learned lots from this video.
Thanks, that's very helpful
Thanks alot for the video it's really helped me with my iron cobra flexi glide:>
Thanks bro
It helped
Great information.
I use double bass it’s more fluid to me.Your teachings are awsome man.
Sehr Gut!👍
thank you man keep up!!!!
Very well said
nice job on this video!
Frick, i needed this video.
Man this really helped me! I recently changed from mapex raptor(d drive) to eliminator redlinde (double chain) the feel was just wrong. I lost my pedal. The raptors i played right out the case good to go. The redline i had to try the diff cams before i chose blue and adjusting the beaters did it. Thanks
This is an excellent tutorial. May I congratulate you on your wonderful English. I feel ashamed I know no German.
Lowering the beater looks like the option for me, thank you Nech... (i have the same beater, pedal but with the blue leather strap)...
Sehr gutes Video hab ich gebraucht
Freut mich 👍
Thank u Wanja!
Great video!
Great video
very useful !! love from China !!!!
Cool vids and great footwork!! I just subscribed, love watching! Keep up good work!! \m/ \m/
Thanks for th tips. Bblessed
Good job. Just what I was looking for as I just bought a used Pearl double pedal. I wish you would have covered how to adjust the hi hat stand to get the pedal next to it
sos una maquina mencho!
Ich habe Ihr Tutorial Nechtan Grüße aus Mannheim geliebt
Good stuff brotha
Dankeschön!
Vielen Dank für das Tutorial. Ich selbst bin noch relativ frisch mit dabei (1 Jahr mit Unterbrechungen) und habe mir vor ca. einem Monat ein Double-Pedal zugelegt. Mal davon abgesehen, dass es immens viel an Übung erfordert (Muskulatur aufbauen, Timing lernen...) ist es wirklich auch eine Frage, wie ich die Dinger aufsetze. Da hat mir dein Tutorial nochmal weitergeholfen. :)
I have Pearl 932 pedals, cheaper version of the demon drive ones, very much middle class pedals, though slightly more expensive, my point by mentioning this is that from my experience it's much easier to play fast on pedals that are a bit more expensive, so if you want to get something that's great to start playing fast with, I'd definitely go for something like this.
Thank you so much
Pearl Eliminator NOT Dominator! Just giving you crap man. Excellent video! Great advice for beginner to intermediate dbl bass drum players like me! You covered everything to know about how to adjust your pedals and I found it very useful how you distinguished differences in settings between beginner vs. advanced players. WOW! Thank you sir! I'm gonna adjust my Iron Cobras and relearn Sepultura's "Refuse/Resist" now!
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Thanx wanja...
Ha witzig! Ich habe gerade auch mit dem Schlagzeug spielen angefangen und komm da auf deine Videos xD LG von Jan aus Kiel (Autumn Blast 2016)
How do you not have 1 million subscribers?
Thanks!
thanks for the tips, i'm five days in learning drums. wish me luck :)
You`re welcome! Great that you`re starting. Keep going, all the best for you!
Btw.: My drum school might be interesting for you (at least when you`re into metal drumming). It starts right from the beginning with all the basics and goes up to a pro level. My personal support is also included. You can check it out here: www.wanjanechtangroeger.com/bundles/nds
I've got the same drum throne, cool
@6:10 when I first began practicing double bass I would actually set the right beater (right was my leading foot at the time) so it would actually tap the top of my foot in between each impact. However, I don't recommend that to new drummers. It beat the shit out of the topside of that foot after awhile.
Hey man awesome vid. I actually have both modules. Love TD3 better for triggering. More bottom end sounding. Can you connect addictive drums to TD3?
Can you do a video on how to get a decent bass tone. It would help a lot
What bass drum head are you using on batter side, thnx. Mike D.
Thank you, Wanja. \_ _/
Thankyou
I've never used drums in my life, but I just watched a video of someone rocking out on the drums..so I wanted to find out how to set this up. For the future.
Good luck!
Thanks for this video. My main problem is a feeling of dissymmetry, because the left foot seems disproportionately heavy, even when taking the left foot weakness into account. And I was wondering if a counterweight set higher on the right beater might help achieving more similar strokes. My goal is to have both beaters travel exactly the same when released from tension.
On some pedals in the past I had the same feeling and I countered that with making the spring tension on the left side slightly higher.
I've just discovered your channel, and it's the best thing ever! Keep it up!
*NOTE* You fucking rock
Thanks!
Does anyone have experience with Iron cobra 600 double pedal?I cant find any guides and I have a harder time play on then than my old pearl single pedal.
Greetings from Canada, Wanja! I enjoy your videos, as I watch them frequently. I am curious as to your opinion on the "pearl demon drive p3002d". I currently have the "Yamaha fp9500c", and am curious as to if I should purchase the Pearl, or just learn your double stroke technique with the Yamaha pedals. I would highly value your input! Thank you, and continue to be yourself.
I think it depends on the level you play on - you don't "need" an expensive direct drive pedal to learn the technique and I think that up to 200bpm almost any pedal will be good enough. The most important reason for a better pedal is the long-term quality, especially of the drive shaft.
Wanja [Nechtan] Gröger Thank you, Wanja. Keep doing your thing, man!
Why not put the red cam? And you prefer light position powershifter ? My distance beater from drumhead is 13.5 cm your? 👍
I thought it was just me! I never got used to the close-to-the-kick beaters. I never got them going fast enough, like they were fighting me.
hi wanja, just to play devil's advocate, tommy aldridge sat super low and killed it on double bass (the exception proves the rule, I suppose).
I took his advice and unfortunately failed to achieve his results. I think your advice is more sound, for everyone. thx.
Im getting one of those shirts! 300 BPM
Hi Wanja. Great work! I´m using the same pedals and I have a one question.
On the video I see, that your heels are a little bit lower than the end of the pedal plate.
Do you recommend playing with your technique like that?
Or is it possible to achieve good consistency and speed even if the heel is placed on the pedal plate?
Thank you for your kindly reply.
Greetings from Slovakia.
I think it depends on the size of your feet. It doesn't really matter where the heel is - the ball of the foot is the point where the main pressure is applied to the pedal and with that you just have to find your sweet spot.
Hey wanja! Huge fan. Quick question. Whenever i play anywhere past 130 bpm 16th notes, my ankles want to immediately jump into 190 to 200 bpm. Also my legs just wont play anywhere between 130 and 190. Whenever im supposed to use a mix of full leg motion and ankle motion, i just cant do it. I can only play full leg motion only, or ankle motion only. Any tips?
This seems to be a problem for many ankle motion users - I think you just have to practise a lot to get better at this kind of tempo. Just try to practise playing as slow as possible with your ankles and as fast as possible with your legs! It might help in the beginning (especially for playing slower with your ankles) to lower the spring tension and/or to increase the beater distance.
I use Trick, so this doesn't apply to my personal settings, but, on a pedal like that, I would tighten up the action of the slave pedal just a hair more than the main pedal...as to counter the sloppy action of the slave pedal...
I don't know if I would say the slave is sloppy in terms of engineering, it's pretty darn close to how the right beater feels on a Trick double bass pedal. Just look at videos of how excellently made the bearings are. And they are literally two singles with just a connector rod
Please make a video of how you get your drum tone? Sounds stellar ;) (tuning, muffling, whatever). Mine sounds like sht (22").
It really is nothing special but since many people ask about that I will make a video about that in the future!
If it rings on a bit if the other side from the beater has one of those giant hole in it you can put a put or a blanket it it
hey Wanja, i have the new pearl eliminator redline pedal belt drive , so i just want to know what do you recommend to use the red cam or the blue cam?
I always used the blue cam - a bit progressive but not as extreme as the red cam.
Hi! Ty for the vid! I'm thinking about to buy a double pedal. Pearl eliminator or tama iron cobra. Wich one do you think better?
I liked the Eliminator better because it has more adjustment possibilities and I think it can be set up to feel less heavy than the IC.
Hi! First, great tutorial! I have been adjusting my pedals as long as I've been playing but now I'm going to try your setup because you can play mutch faster than I can. I also own the Pearl Eliminator 2002C but my Dive Shaft (the connector between the 2 pedals) is damaged (again!) at the ball bearings (the part the Drive Shaft bends). I even bought a replacement (the same, original one for the Eliminator) some years ago, but that one also got damaged. When I put the left spring at the left of my right pedal it's even impossible to play because of the delay of the action.
In short: what drive shaft do you use in this video and is it a solid, durable one?
I used the drive shaft from the Pearl Demon Drive and that is very solid :)
@@wanjanechtangroeger thanks. I will check it out!
Hey! Nice vid! Do you think it’s a good idea for me to buy another double bass pedal (i play on a dw 2000 and i can go arround 200-210 bpm)? Thanks you!
I think at that level it is justified to buy a better one - and the dw 2000 is really not that great ;)
Hi! Can you do a video of your pedal set up but of speed cobras? Greetings from chile!
I never owned a speed Cobra so I am not familiar with how to set it up.
Hello nechta thx for the vid i just subscribed. Which country your shop located at?
Thanks for subscribing! The Shop is in Germany but you can order the stuff from around the world ;)
Wanja [Nechtan] Gröger orite thanks