I FINALLY TEST RODE THE INDIAN CHALLENGER! Not what I was expecting!
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2020
- I FINALLY TEST RODE THE INDIAN CHALLENGER! And it was NOT what I was expecting!
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Thanks for checking out my video! I should preface, I kept this bike in "Standard Mode" to experience this bike how it was intended from factory for a "Standard" ride.
If you missed my Road Glide test ride, check it out! ua-cam.com/video/GEnKyJeSwvw/v-deo.html
**Edit***
As many of you have mentioned, I should have put it in "Sport" mode to fix the throttle lag. I also mentioned I didn't do research on this bike, exactly the same amount of research I did on the Road Glide. Zero. I hopped on and rode. These were my first impressions. The fact that I need to change "Modes" to choose how the bike rides is basically the same as buying a car that can park itself for me. Having a machine governor itself to make up for a riders reaction time is just not the direction I want to see technology move towards. But AGAIN. These were my first impressions, captured on video. As I mention ALL THE TIME, Every rider is different. Everyone likes different things. Shouldn't we celebrate the fact that manufacturers produce unique machines so that all riders have what they want? In the end it's not about whether or not you like Harley over Indian over Honda over BMW.... It's always going to be the wrong opinion in someone else's mind. #rideyourownride
How tall are you?
@@jasongraves6891 she's 5'7 and can comfortably flat foot the challenger.
it came from the factory with 3 modes. You kept it in one mode that you didn't like. That'd be on you, not "how the factory intended". I watched the entire thing and will thumbs up it just to show support of your channel, but honestly, it was like watching 18 minutes of complaining because you weren't used to that type of bike. I did appreciate the info on ergonomics and stating how tall you were and you could flat-foot it. Not enough people tell you those things.
I appreciate ur honesty, I like the way the bike handles corners. Though if it’s not for ur then it’s just not ur thing.
It was intended from the factory to ride in all 3 modes, that's y the "factory" made 3 options..so yeah
I like the Challenger. My impressions were all very positive. I did not have the throttle lag you mentioned, and found the adjustable windshield to provide comfort above the RG. As a mechanical engineer, I may over analyze engine design, and Challenger's engine/primary are next generation as compared to HD, just no comparison. Engine is: OHC, water cooled (not select engine head cooling like HD), gear primary drive, 108hp (stock), proper cylinder sleeves (won't crack), well designed oil pump, no oil sumping, no cross talk between primary and transmission. I have two Harleys, but due to TC88 cam chain design flaw will be moving away from HD. Thanks for the ride summary. Always good to hear other's perspectives.
So you’re moving away from H-D because of the chain tensioners which they resolved like 13 model years and 4 engines ago?
@@jspiers1 yes, although resolved, HD sold me product and they new there was a design problem. If I was informed at time of purchase and decided to still buy the product, that is different. No mention of this problem in my manual, no bulletin from HD, no official company guidance. Their action represents a company that does not represent putting the customer first. Even if they acknowledge the problem and share in the cost of repair, something to represent their part in such a debacle. Not just me, three friends that bought HD at same time have sworn off the brand.
e b when did you bikes?
@@jspiers1 I bought my Road King 2003 and Deluxe in 2005, both new. My issue with HD is that HD did not inform their customers of the cam chain tensioner problem. It is not even mentioned in my manual and when I discussed with HD-customer service they all but said it is not a problem. I expect better from a company when I am paying top dollar for their product.
I totally agree about the superior mechanical design of the Indian (Actually, the Challenger is from the Victory days) vs the Harley M8...if you've ever watch the Harley vs Victory video by Mike Schutz --a bit over zealous--what he is saying has some truth...I've owned four Harleys from the 88B, 96, 103, & 107 M8 and the transmission migration to primary and sumping did it for me and now looking at the Indian motors...not a lot of folks know the big difference in mechanical design of the Indian & Harley, one you set aside your subjective biases, the new Indian Power Plus 108 is clearly light years ahead of the Harley M8 Vtwin...thanks
Blockhead had the same complaint with the throttle until he put it in sport mode.
Sport mode made it more responsive for sure, but that initial free play was still in the throttle. It’s something I’ve come across on every Indian Motorcycle I’ve ridden (except FTR,) just the way their throttles are I guess, haha
Sport helped, but it still feels lazy.
Never noticed any lag with my Springfield nor the Challenger I rode but I had it in sport the entire time and I was on it! I dig it but it's not for everyone! 😁 🤙🏼
@@BlockheadMoto
But why are you in a hurry? I mean, you are riding a cruiser [a term coined by the Japanese for standard bikes] and not a crotch rocket. I don't understand the need to "hot rod" a cruiser.
Travelin' Ted - I’ve got cruisers, I cruise plenty. Not in a hurry, just don’t like a lot of take up on the throttle.
Throttle response is controlled by the modes. Standard mode has a ~.5 second lag it tames that monster engine. helps keep traction on the rear tire, it will kick out in standard mode if you romp on it. Sport mode 100% takes that away, and it makes each "acceleration".... exciting.. that rear tire will chirp and kick easily. -----source I have about 500 miles on my week old challenger. :)
It was hard to tell, but I dont think you liked it as much as your bike
“I gotta get off this bike” 😂 well hey you did it and now ya know lol... good one! ANDDDDD CONGRATS ON 60K WOW ! ⭐️
It looks like the vents were closed preventing the air flow you needed. You should have put it in Sport Mode to remove the throttle lag.
I feel ya. Its hard to give an accurate assessment when your uncomfortable.
Okay y'all, you can't expect a literal first-time test ride to be all sunshine and roses, ESPECIALLY when we the viewers beg her to ride it and she did what we asked, so cut her some slack here - my word! I really liked this video, perhaps there were a lot of complaints about the bike, but I thought her reactions and opinions were very authentic and just goes to prove further that some bikes don't give you that "awww perfect" feeling.
Totally get what you mean about not feeling comfortable on a bike. I started riding on a Kawasaki Vulcan 500, and was convinced that I wanted to get a Vulcan Vaquero or Nomad. When I test rode a Vaquero, it felt squirely, I kept feeling like I didn't 'get it'... just awkward. Right after that, I rode an Ultra Limited and it felt awesome. Just seemed like the HD fit me, and it was effortless to get it to go where I wanted it to. People like to bash Harleys, but there is something about 'em that just makes them a joy to ride.
COMPLETELY OPPOSITE of my experience since I bought my Challenger....Freaking funnest bike I have ever ridden
Yeah, when I test rode the Challenger I had an absolute BLAST on it. And I love Road Glides, owned one for 10 years, but I liked the Challenger more.
Love my 17 Roadmaster, I'm afraid to test ride the Challenger as I don't want to be tempted to trade!
I agree 100%. I convinced myself a Road Glide was going to be my next bike, until I drove them both. A Challenger is in my near future!
They are basically the same motorcycles, they compete directly with each other, it comes down to stock fitment and proximity to a dealership for service and repairs if needed. If you are one of the few that live close to an Indian dealership, go for it, but outside that, the Indian is so similar to the Indian that most reviews I have seen say the same things. Side by side reviews of the direct comparison bikes are basically watching the same video twice.
@@Evirthewarrior not even close they are two different beast(to me) i was set on a roadglide then i found this bike and im like omg , this is it.
It looks like the vents are closed in the faring which will stop air flow
Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thats what fairings do! Block wind, rain and bugs. Guess it works!
@@gregorytracy3512 no there are vents below that open to allow more air flow.
@@robertmanley6102 to bad the sales dude didn't show THAT feature. He was all about the buttons though. Jess may have had a better reaction, if...
Made a video of a test ride of the challenger. I ride it for 4 hrs and tested everything. Put it in a 10 min video. Sport mode is very responsive. You need to open the vents. Allows the wind to come through. Doubt they told you that. Has the lean technology so ya very nimble
Yep, I loved the Challenger too.
I can't get over those goofy bars lol
Aw, its you again. The big hairy Indian motorcycle hater. That's why a lot of non-harley and non-bike riders hate motorcycle enthusiasts. Too much ego, machoism, and hate.
Totally, how dare he have an opinion about what he doesn't like about a bike. I don't like the grips or the seat, but I loved riding the scout sixty. Everyone has their opinion, deal. Shadetree, you keep on keeping on brother.
And yet, I'm the psycho over here that is thinking of getting the mini-apes for an Indian Scout to put on his Vulcan S to do about the same thing with them. I want to sit up a little straighter and have a more relaxed position in my arms. My bars are already rolled back a bit, but they just aren't tall enough for me to stop extending my arms so much. I hope that won't affect handling *too* much, but I honestly don't know.
@@Sig721Tau have you ever watched his channel? Shadetree loves all motorcycles, but, like everyone else he's got an opinion about what he likes and what he doesn't on certain models, chill....
Thats why I like the Indian Chief dark horse & the Harley Road king. No fairing! 😃
I am confused...does that fairing block the wind? 🤣
I’m a 5’1 woman and I got the Indian Springfield dark horse 2019
Sure am glad, I test rode the challenger to. I had no problem buying a new road glide after I did!
I owned a Challenger for about a month. It has tons of power, and the ergonomics are fantastic (especially considering I'm 6'1), but there are a lot of kinks that Indian still needs to work through. One of the common complaints is the throttle response, as you mention. It is a quite a bit more delayed than my Ultra Limited, but what's worse is that some of the new Challengers (mine was one) have total throttle failure. When this happens, on start-up, there will be zero throttle response until throttle is approx. half open. There are also common problems with cylinder misfires on the new motor in that bike, so be aware of that as well. All in all, it has tons of power and is super balanced, but it is definitely different.
I like my road king. Has two bags. Can ride it with or without the windshield. Cruise control is nice too. Shifts very smooth no big clunky noises. Still got that old school look.
That fairing FOR SURE blocks a ton of wind! I was dying when I rode it in a full face also, and had to keep opening my visor + sticking my head above the windshield to cool down, haha. That’d be great for putting down some long miles though. Def a different feeling overall, but smooth bike for sure. And same thoughts on the throttle. Good vid! 🤘🏼
Ever thought about opening the vents ?
rapalapaul was just going to say the same.
I watched both of your videos for this and the Roadglide. Its amazing that you complained that much about the Challenger front end being front heavy when the Roadglide has almost 25 more lbs on the front end than the Challenger and there wasn't one time that you complained about the Roadglide's front end weight in turns. Additionally the throttle lag that you experienced is engineered that way so in Normal and Rain mode the bike doesn't have too much aggressiveness, however if you would have put the bike in different modes ie: Sport mode; you would have seen that throttle lag go away. As an owner of both Harley and Indian, I have to say that they have their differences and similarities alike. I love my Dyna for short trips and kicking around town, but for long road trips I love my Indian. But I understand that my 2 different bikes are set for 2 different riding environments, and I don't believe that you realized that in your riding and video here!
Living in Daytona Beach for 20 years, I did annual Harley test rides during Bike Weeks. They'd bring two or three semi-trailers full of bikes of all types. Bring a helmet and show them a M/C endorsement and ride whatever you want for a giant loop around the Speedway. I'd spend an hour or two riding everything but an 883. Great fun.
open vents on fairing to get air flow.
I love that your so honest! I think it was good test ride.
Thanks for another great video! You rock!
I’m on my second Indian Chieftain! Awesome Bike! Currently own A 2018 Chieftain Limited. Black Pearl With Graphics❤️🇺🇸
Vents are there to stop the wind flow when it's cold, but they turn to direct the wind in the direction you want it to go, so if you just turn them into your legs, you were going to be way full of wind in your legs. Cruisers are designed for it. In another video I asked you to test the street glide before you make a desition to the road glide. And that's exactly why I ask you to do that. Street glide is much better to direct wind with deflectors. When it's hot, you can direct it to yourself, when it's freezing cold, you can protect yourself from it. Also works prety good with light rain on the highway.
All you gotta do is open the vents for airflow.That fairing is doing what it’s supposed to do (block wind)You should have played with the sport mode.I give Indian credit for stepping up and building a cruiser that can compete with the road glide and IMO They did a great job.
i never had more fun watching a test ride vid 😁
I am sooo comfortable on my Road King!! Thanks for the test drive video on the Indian Challenger.
Except it’s absolutely wrong.
I feel the same way that's why I bought a Road King.
Road king is not fixed fairing. Totally different bike
@@johnshirbini5801 yeah I know, I owned Road glide. Same bike but no fixed fairing. I actually bought a removable fairing but hardly ever use it. I prefer seeing more of the road.
Love your honesty. Best thing about cars or motorcycles is the different options and models for everyone.
I kinda felt like I just listened to ten minutes of complaining about things that would be easily fixed.
1: you're wearing leathers on a hot sunny day.
2: the bike has sport mode and the guy told you in the beginning of the video that the modes change throttle response e.g.:Lag.
Also.. Baggers with fairings are designed to keep wind off of you in all weather conditions.
The reason this bike has a dead spot in the throttle is because of the ride mode sensor. When you change modes the throttle must go back to zero for the reset.
I hope you get an opportunity to test this bike again under different conditions.
I'll point out that I love all bikes, ive owned 17 different ones in my life and I currently own an 18 street glide.
The challenger is miles better. Imo
Perfectly said.
Agreed
Gotta agree with George.
Was thinking the same thing. If it’s hot out, I dress for it. Mesh jacket over a moisture wicking shirt is cooler than just a T-shirt...leather jacket on a hot day is gonna be hot. Gonna be hot on a bike with no fairing/windscreen.
I watched both her test rides on this Challenger and the Road Glide and she was very excited to test ride the Glide and raved from start to finish but you can tell she really didn't want to ride the Challenger. IMHO she is a Harley person and not an Indian person so that says alot.
Sport mode would have made a world of difference on your throttle response I kept hoping through the whole video that you would switch over. The fairing was doing exactly what it was designed for to keep the wind off of you. Really sorry you had a bad experience please keep up the good work on your videos
I was waiting for her to switch to sport mode too! Plus with the buffeting on the freeway it would have been nice to see her bring the windshield up to see if it would have helped reduce the buffeting. Liked the video but would have loved it if she would have done those two things.
Looks like her vents were closed on the fairing, too. That would've allowed more wind.
@@BreFury she did bring the windshield up all the way when she was on the highway. She made a comment about it helping a little bit but being right in her line of sight.
Thank you for these videos. First started watching you for the solo camping trips you enjoy, which I also love to do. I ride a 16 Street Glide Special because I didn't like the longer reach to the controls that the Road Glide has. The SG also sits a little lower than the RG with a larger front wheel than the rear. Try this in your next video.
It does have Air Vents!!! Open them up and Voila , no more legs on fire 😁 Ask more questions before your next test ride , and that way you can have more knowledge about the bike and probably have a much different opinion , not to mention a much more fun ride . And Sport mode !!!!! Another thing they should've gave you more info about .
I love my Road King Special since I can feel the wind and see the road
So I'm only a few minutes into the video and I feel you right there! I recently took a GoldWing for a ride and the first thing I though was how claustrophobic I felt. There was just no wind behind the shield, it was just too big and too uncomfortable for me. Great video though Jess!
Thank you for doing this video, was interested in this ride. But ended up going with a Road Glide Special, and thank you for your 2 videos, really helpful and had a major influence on my decision, ride safe & take care, Aloha Kenneth
Great review video Jes! "I" appreciate the honesty and your commentary when you are riding. That gives others a "true" perspective of the ride of the bike. I'm extremely heat intolerant, so I would not do well with that "no wind" aspect of a bike. I just really love my Heritage Classic!! That bike just "fits" me, and I know you know what that means! Ride Safe!!
Street glide is where it’s at. Previously I had a Street Bob so it has a little more comfort but still relatively light. Thank you for posting your rides. It gets me through until I can get my fuel leak fixed so I can ride again.
As already stated they just had the throttle in the wrong map setting. Most likely the rain setting.
9:53 She said SHE had it in standard.
I love your DYNA! DYNA’s are my favorite motorcycles/Harley-Davidson of all time!
That's a great route. Love doing the figure 8 around Hoover.
I ride with way less gear and a beanie helmet personally. I know that’s not what you’re used to , but it’s a totally different driving experience. More air flow and wind. So amazing. Just thought I’d throw that your way.
Proud of you trying, and give it straight from your perspective.
Put it in Sport Mode! The whole video I kept hoping you would. It will change throttle response. Also you have to open the air vents to get some airflow. That fairing is doing what it was designed to do. I would suggest researching a bikes feature before doing a video on it. Your videos are great, keep up the good work just do some homework before hand.
air flow is super important, especially on a hot day. As a street glide owner and having rode my brother road glide and my previous bike being a road king, i have to say i really love the street glide. It just feels right. Seem to be a popular bike for the ladies going to a bagger, probably because of the balance and ride height. Just my opinion, thanks for the ride, been seeing more of more of these Indians on the road and was curious myself
Sport mode may have increased throttle response? I don’t like it, and I’m not even riding it....But I’m very partial to Harley anyway.
Jim, you ridden a Harley? Cuz my 107 Glide does 0-100 in around 10 seconds from a stop.
Nice bike buddy. My point remains though. I can also make that 0-100 with a passenger and 3 bags fully loaded for cross state/country trips. Comparing my Glide to your naked street bike is like comparing a decked out road king to a hayabusa. Each has its purpose and is fantastic,but,I'll stick to my Hog for my current purpose.
On that note,those Triumph GT's are fantastic bikes and I wish I could ride one here up here in WA without crossing into the west side
The Indian challenger is the newest Indian bike and the throttle needs work. There should be, if I remember correctly, a little vent behind the windshield like a Harley
Not my style of bike. The wind and bugs in my face is what I enjoy the most.
Steering wheel😂😂😂 Our sweet Jess was a little nervous riding the Challenger. ❤
Glad to hear you take on the Challenger. I considered getting one but have decided to stick with the Road Glide. I put the softer clutch on the bike and put all led lighting on as well. I love the way the RG turns and leans. Feels really comfortable for me.
oh, jess, i am so sorry you had such a time on that bike. i appreciate the work you did in editing the video, hopefully the next test ride you get will be better for you.
Thank you for an honest test ride review.
I hate it wasn’t a great ride for you but appreciate your honest feedback. Love your channel!
BMW has blinker switch on both sides also, I think Harley and Beemer know something.. And once used to it, it makes sense, just takes time to get used to it.. doesn't take long..lol Good vid, thanks Jess! We can see you'll be sticking with the HOGs! xD
I have owned many bikes over the years including GoldWing, HD Ultra Classic and Indian RoadMaster. The RoadMaster is by far and away the best ride of all I have owned. I have not ridden the Challenger but plan to at a later time.
My buddy sold them here in canton so I did get to ride again they are nice!!
My Road King Classic (FLHRC) is the most comfortable bike I've ever owned in my 48 years of riding..i lowered the front 2" and threw Burly Slammers on the back dropped it 2" .. it really rides like a dream
You’re telling me that big thing doesn’t have AC? lol
This is why I’m glad I would stay with my Harley because im a Harley boy all the way. And you are a Harley girl all the way
Yes air flow and reach are issues that most people talk about with that bike and it's more noticeable on a hot day. The lag and rev matching is not an issue in sport mode. I am a Harley guy myself but the challenger is fun to play with in sport mode. I feel bad that you didn't have a good experience because I was one of those people that suggested you try it. You are hard core for using a leather jacket in the heat. Ride safe.
The fairing is supposed to block the wind. Allows you to ride longer and ride in colder weather. It's a touring bike.
It had vents you could adjust. You even looked at them and talked about them, lol. Move them around next time and you'll get more air.
Polaris engines like higher revs than Harleys, I was told this when I bought my 2016 Victory Cross country. I'm completely used to it now and love my Victory. As far as wind goes, my Victory also blocks a lot of wind but I ride year round and that definitely helps in January & February, it is hot right now though.
I own a 2012 Cross Country Tour and the whole time she was riding, I wanted to whisper in her ear, shift at 2500-3000. The engine heat is similar to the 106. Just like the solid clunky shifting. I hope to make this the last bike I own. At 57 years old, and just over 30k on the odometer, it seems very doable.
@@dalemarlar6141 I have a 2012 Cross Country Tour as well and I have 31,800 something I think it is and she's running strong.
I am enamored with you descriptions as they are very candid. When you have that much throttle play riding can be miserable. I have experienced that in my riding years. I look forward to all your riding videos and commentary. I would have thought that this bike would have had some easy vents to use. You've got to have some wind on you. Thank you again for being very candid with all you say. Till the next video.
Indians are so nice but I think HD will always have my heart. 🥰
Exactly! People like what they like! Thank goodness there are so many options out there for us! There is no wrong choice!
Sounds like a great winter bike.😉
As a former '07 Road King Classic owner, I'm here to give the 2017 Indian Chieftain 111c.i. two thumbs up. Just got done a 30 day rental test ride and it was awesome! Had chromed out controls, loud powerful pipes, tuned, Arlen Ness air cleaner. The touch screen with Bluetooth is awesome and easy to learn! Loved playing iHeart radio on my way home from work. The Chieftain looks 10x better than this model, and the Chieftain is awesome on throttle response! 30-day-rental with true daily driver real world use. They (Indian) won me over for sure, and 2021 is looking like a good year to treat myself and wife to a new bagger 😊
I test rode one of these and also made a video - I agree that you shouldn’t have to change modes to have normal throttle response. I found the brakes soft. In both your case and mine it could be setup problems from the dealer or whomever does demo bikes
I've riden it. A. Open the vents in fairing & B. put in sport mode. It doesn't need to rev hard in down change. No indian does thats one distinct difference to any harley. The suspension is better and the fairing controls are closer than a road glide. I didnt find it as heavy as the road glide. Its water cooled is the other thing so it revs higher than any air cooled bike even other indians. If you had ever riden a victory cross country its very comparable to that ride.
I too hate riding in group rides. I've only done the group ride once. At that time I was riding a Honda Shadow 750. I had the smallest bike there, and we were doing an average speed of 85 mph. And it sucked. There was approximately 50 bikes in the group.
Yeah no wind sucks until winter hits, then its a gift from God.
Test ride a Road King!
Or a Bonneville. :)
Glad you tried it and not every bike is for every rider. I haven't and don't intend to test ride the Challenger (or Road Glide for that matter) as I dislike fixed fairing bikes, Indian or Harley or Yamaha. I have a 2017 Indian Chieftain Limited and wish you would have tried that model while you were there as well. It is a fork mounted fairing bike which is similar to the Street Glide. I rode the Street Glide during a demo ride event when I was searching for a new bike. The Indian Chieftain was in a word smooth. The Street Glide in a word was harsh (oh and heavy feeling too, even just bringing up off of the kickstand). But you are so correct in saying TRY THE DAMN BIKE before you buy it. If you ever make it over to the Pocono's in PA let me know !!
I as well have a 2017 Chieftain Limited, and have much love for this bike. I almost bought a Heritage that year, but Indian won me over with all the extras. The test ride sealed the deal. I laughing called the salesman a bastardo, He knew I wanted to take the bike with me.
Is it a motorcycle or a spaceship. Not even 2 minutes into it I already don't like it too many buttons
Apparently uou havent seen a vulcan voyager or honda goldwing...lol
It’s an amazing bike.
Duh, yeah Sport Mode would be a lot more responsive and you should have at least tried it, however; it looks like it's not for you for plenty of other reasons.
Drive by wire is always delayed. And the computer controls the throttle even in different modes. When you get them tuned they change it to work the way cables do.
Brandon, I have two Triumphs,17 thruxton and 19 tiger 800 both drive by wire. Both are flawless in throttle control!
I just rented a chieftain two days ago and rode a street glide today. I enjoyed that chieftain, but I think if you changed the mode to sport you may like it better ;) riding this street glide I miss the airflow too. Everything is blocked! 😩
The throttle thing may be that mode thing he talked about
I think your review was honest....lol! I went and rode the Road King and thought I would absolutely hate it (mostly because I'm used to a sports bike...lol). But hey, I fell in love. That's what the test rides are for. I enjoyed your personal perspective! That's why I subscribed 👍🏾.
I sat on one in Daytona in the Spring with every intention of test riding it. But after sitting on it, compared to my Yamaha Eluder, I was so unimpressed that I didn't even ride it. My Eluder has two throttle modes, Sport and Tour. I leave it in Sport for a linear throttle response. The Tour mode isn't linear, much like what you were describing in the Standard mode. The Eluder wasn't as highly popular as it's brother the Star Venture (a touring dresser), but it's a well balanced touring bagger. If you ever get the chance, take one for a test ride. Peace and love.
Wind reflectors push in They have them on my victory vision too I get lots of heat off the motor
She says she wont be doing much talking but she hasnt stopped talking . That isnt a con, by no means. Enjoy the video, keep them coming
They should have had the vents open for you on a hot day. Because of you having a Dyna. You would like the Indian Vintage or Springfield more just because of it just having a removable windshield. Plus more airflow around you.
Harley for life.
I tested one out and loved it. The power was great. I loved my Ultra until I rode a Road Master. The ride was so much better I traded the Ultra off for the Road Master. The throttle is the same. You get used to it in a few hours.
Think no matter what Harley is the way to go. Love your channel keep it up.
Air flow is a funny thing. I owned a 2016 Kawasaki Vulcan Vaquero (Kawi's version of the Road Glide), and now I have a 2019 FLHXS. The air-cooled Harley "rides cooler" than the Kawi did, by far. I can go out in 100+F temps with great comfort (except for at stop lights, of course), whereas I was sweating my butt off on the Kawi! Even my 79 KZ650SR rides cooler than that Vaquero did. Gotta be air flow around the bike - Harley just nails it!
thank you for a honest opinion, all the others ive heard had been how great the bike is. but yours seems honest
I test drove this bike and thought m legs would catch on fire. Way too hot for this guy. I’ll stick with the Yamaha FJR for now.
Truly enjoy your video content. Thanks for bringing us along.
Cheers from Montréal.
Did you get a chance to see if Sports mode sorted out some of the lag?
Thanks for doing this. I’m 5’7” too and think we are alike in many ways (except age wise). This is helpful.
I tried the Challenger but I chose my 2019 Chieftain Dark Horse over it because the Chieftain looks, sounds and feels better in my opinion. The Challenger kind of dampened the feeling of riding a motorcycle to me, to smooth, to much wind block and to much of a cage like feeling. My two cents, throw a leg over the 2019 Chieftain and put it in sport and i think you'll enjoy it. Keep up the great work 👍
4:47 So true about the learning curve. I've used my neighbor's bike for only a few times when we ride together. But his brakes are so instant compared to mine that I accidentally grabbed onto it too suddenly at a yellow to red light change, and I skidded that bad boy halfway into the crosswalk. Also, his clutch grabs a lot sooner than mine and I've turned off his engine a couple of times because I didn't give it enough throttle. xD
Love those Indian motorcycles!
They just get better and better❣️👍
Notifications are working great
Yeah I'm not a fan of these type of bikes with a fairing I need ventilation I don't care about the wind. If I wanted a bagger I would get the Road King for sure!
As some who somewhat regularly takes 500 mile trips departing just before dawn, I can see the appeal of blocking the wind. I had a 2016 Dyna Fat Bob with a quick release wind screen. By my first gas stop I'm curled up by the engine trying to warm myself up. Despite having layers for the temperature, they weren't particularly wind resistant, so I was still shivering and nearly numb anyway despite me usually being too warm when it's 70F out. Wind chill is serious business. And despite being able to make these 500 mile trips, there have been windy days that have fatigued me more in 2 hours than 8 hours of more tame days. I still have naked, unfaired bikes and those still preferred for my around town riding, but on those long trips, it's easy to underestimate the toll wind can take on you.
Good for you buddy.
I test rode that exact same Challenger out in Tyler, TX. I think i remember that one being extended reach controls, which would explain youreally reaching for the bars
I have a 2018 RoadGlide Special. Honestly the only reason I'm not on an indian challenger right now is the limited after market options to make it my own and because Indian couldn't wipe out what I still owe on my RGS and put me ahead a little on the Challenger. Guess that means I'll revisit it after it gets refined a few more times