Did the Trans Ams from Smokey & the Bandit 3 End Up on Knight Rider?
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- Опубліковано 27 січ 2023
- So many have asked - did the black and gold 1982 Trans Ams used in the production of 1983's "Smokey and the Bandit Part 3" end up as KITT cars on Knight Rider? Let's analyze!
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There's nothing wrong with finding out specifically about the Trainwreck cars.
Three things: the black seat belts came with that basic interior in 1982. The car has a radio and front speakers. That is what the option book has. That’s a base crossfire ws7 car with t tops of course. The cat is the corvette cat with high flow, that came standard on the 82 crossfire.
As someone who prides oneself on catching mistakes and special effects, my hat is off to you! I will just add that the trans am with the damaged and taped up antenna base is likely due to the scene where it goes under the Dorsey trailer. They likely didn't think to remove it before doing the stunt and damaged it. They did eventually remove it, though, because you can see that it is clearly sitting next to the actress in the passenger seat during that scene. I love this channel and will continue to watch! Great content, Joe!
I noticed what looks like an Antenna That You Can see in the backseat from 19:45-20:33 to the right of Colleen Camp while they where under the truck .
I’m assuming it got knocked off or they removed it for the scene .
Notice that trailer is raised up about a foot to clear the car?
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When I went to General Motors automotive school in the eighties. There was a Trans Am there that they said was one of the ones that was used in Smokey and the Bandit three movie. It looked like the car in the movie.
Thanks Joe for another great video.
Certainly possible!
@@KnightRiderHistoriansOfficial another thing I remember was the Confederate flag license plate was a license plate sized sticker that was on the front bumper, it was a reflective material as well. The car was pretty beat up also. It did have the cross fire injection as well.
Now I strongly believe that was one of the cars from the movie.
@@Ronaldl2350 any idea what happened to the car?
@@mattcox3373 I am sure it was eventually scrapped. The cars that were donated to the school by GM were a similar situation like the train wreck cars for Knight Rider. Once they were done being used by the School for training they had to be destroyed. The car was still there when I completed school, but all the cars that were there had stickers on them that they could not be registered, and once they were done being used for educational purposes they had to disposed of. There may be parts lurking some were that students took off or a instructor took off and kept for themselves.
@@Ronaldl2350 When I went to High school in the early 90's, the auto shop had a couple of hail damaged GM's (I know one was a Caprice) as teaching aids. We couldn't even take them into the parking lot due to similar restrictions.
I agree with you ( again ). I always see the "Pre-K.I.T.T." when I watch this movie. Three great masterpieces again but the first part will always be a legend. "I am eastbound and down . . ."
Rest in Peace, both of you. Jerry Reed and Burt Reynolds 😞
Don't forget about Jackie Gleason too. 😥
@@RayRayP2001 Yep. The best George Patton Parody. 😉
17:00 front antenna was a CB product that was designed to fit in the body panel gap of the hood. I had one!
Also worth noting, at 19:32 look how they raised the ride height of the trailer so the car could fit under! Tall spacers added to the fifth wheel and axle mountings.
This was the original Fast and Furious maneuver. 😜👍
Any significance to the tractor only having one drive axle instead of two?
FYI at 15:20, that's actually the B pillar. TA's didn't have a C pillar. Pillars go in order from front to back, A, B, C. C pillars are on 4 door cars usually.
Came here to say this too 😂 station wagons might even have an F pillar!
An astute observation.
I remember as a kid having a plastic shark that fit on the hood of my Kenner KITT & acting out scenes from this movie! I wish I could remember where the shark came from! I got quite creative with that car coloring strips of clear scotch tape with red crayon to simulate KITTs tail lights, just put the tape over the tail light blackout & it looked good! Joe you should do KR toy history videos!
On early 3rd-gens base interior came stock with charcoal seat belts regardless of interior color. You had to pay extra for color-keyed seat belts. Also since the car has Cross-Fire Injection those came with the smaller high-flow monolith catalytic converter in '82. Only the carbureted cars had the old large restrictive pellet style converter that was carried over from the 2nd-gen.
I always found it interesting how the first two SATB movies used highly optioned SE Trans Ams and the third used a nearly no optioned standard Trans Am.
Great info, thank you!
I was going to say the same thing, the non-deluxe belts were still black in these.
Hej bro. Could you please help me with the DVD question that I have send you via mail?
Great stuff, Joe! At 13:22 you can get another good look at the "Fuel Injection" decal on the door handle. Regarding the front Confederate plate...it almost looks to be a sticker rather than an actual plastic plate. That might explain as to why parts of it are missing.
You hit on exactly the two things I was going to comment on 😂
That generation of Trans Am is just a beautiful car in any screen ratio.
It looks good from any angle,, and sounds great
I haven't seen a better looking car since.
Thanks for doing this Joe, and the gag reel commentary.
If you were to do an analysis on a Trans Am TV commercial next, I'll know you are avoiding doing Team Knight Rider for as long as you can. 😀
I just recorded the first TKR commentary!!! Coming soon!
I agree, and even now in 2023 it still holds up in looks.
My favourite feature on it is the turbo hood, but honestly, like you've said, it looks great from just about any angle you look at it.
What a great analysis. I learned a few more things about the cars in that movie. The 1982 Trans Am, its decent car chases and stunts are the only reason why I still like that movie 🤠
Another idea for those numbers is that they filmed the scenes with different cars one after the other to save time and money, without needing to clean it all off. The number on the car helps identifying easily which take looks best. Or especially for the stunt scenes where you only have a stunt driver, they were filming with a different crew at the same time where the "Hero crew" with the main actor was filming, to not mix up the cars for this crew they were labelled.
This is amazing. I always wondered about the "Knight Rider" car in Smokey And The Bandit III, and now you have actually made a link (if only in your analysis, not in actual history of the cars themselves). It's amazing how people from different continents could be thinking about the same thing.
I just want to say that I throughly enjoyed this video- I mean more than any you have done- finding the numbers on the cars and unpicking everything was just fascinating- loved it!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Pretty cool fun fact... The racetrack used for the stunt show was Hialeah Speedway which used to be in Hialeah Florida. My dad raced there in the 90s. I spent much of my teenage years helping my dad build that car. I never missed a Saturday night at Hialeah Speedway!
Yup. Iirc it was supposed to represent Mississippi but you can see the Hialeah signs in a few shots.
I think they bulk of this movie was filmed in South Florida because Jackie Gleason lived there and he refused to travel to shoot the movie.
@@rafaelfiallo4123 yes. Lots of it was.
i really enjoyed watching and learning everything about the Trans Am used in SB3. your channel in general is a great asset to the KR fan community. keep up the fantastic work, and continue to be safe restoring the KR command trailer.
I love the sarcasm at the beginning
Also of note, Jerry Reed did not provide any music for smokey 3. Lee Greenwood did "Bandit Express" heard during the montage. This also proves that Jerry originally had no part in the movie. There was even a newspaper ad from Marion county Florida where it's stated that burt, sally and Jerry wouldn't be in it. Speaking of Marion county Florida, the 1981 Malibu police car seen right before Jerry's "they never learn" 4th wall break was a real Marion county sheriff's car.
It was meant to be a Jackie Gleason movie. He was to play both Smokey and the Bandit. During editing, they felt it just wasn't working and had to call in Jerry because Burt either wasn't interested or most likely working on something else.
@@maniac1075 correct. Smokey IS the bandit part 3.
Burt was filming Stroker Ace, another flop!
@johnduckett243 Yeah. But I suspect he really didn't wanna do this one. He managed a small cameo, but if Burt was on board 100%, they would have waited till he was available. Unless there was a deadline?
@@maniac1075 Burt was only in the movie by random chance because he stopped by the film set in Florida to say hi to everybody and the director begged him to get something on film since he was there. His confrontation scene with Jackie Gleason was pretty much improvised on the spot and you can tell by some of the awkward dialogue
As far as I can tell, all the front "plates" are decals. They probably started off production with all the cars unnumbered, but then started numbering them to tell which is which for stunt work and hero shots. Probably because they kept getting damaged so stick a number on it and tell the director #1 is in the shop and to use #2.
What a strange coincidence, I just watched Smokey And The Bandit 3 for the first time last night, and then today I see you’ve done a review on it… Awesome video, I love how you break everything down and analyse it, keep up the amazing videos.
This was fantastic 👏 I have always been intrigued with the cars from bandit 3 and would still love to know where they ended up!
@KnightRiderHistoriansOfficial The actress who plays Dusty Trails is my cousin Colleen Camp. She was also in the movie D.A.R.Y.L. She played Turtle’s mother.
Very awesome that you did a video on this movies cars. I never once picked up on half of that you pointed out. The fender replacement ( which makes sense with the highway slam hits ) I never noticed, the ragged exhaust at the jump, or how bare optioned the car even was. I remembered the no hub caps on the sweet highway spin around, and the right rear missing cap on the in town evading haha. Thanks again for your videos!
The woman playing Dusty is Colleen Camp, she was also in some of the Police Academy movies as Tackleberries love interest. Thanks for sharing this with us Joe, funny enough I was thinking about this only the other night regarding any if the Bandit 3 TA's being transferred over to one of the KITT stunt cars LOL......small world hey LOL, once again, thanks for sharing bud
she was also in clue and die hard 3
Another way to pick which car was used is look at the back seat, one car has a smooth vinyl or fabric trim and another car has the corded trim.
It's also worth mentioning that all the scenes with Jerry Reed were filmed AFTER the movie was "completed" as test screenings that had Jackie Gleason playing the Bandit bombed badly. The antenna in the back seat when they're under the trailer is a fiberglass CB antenna, alot thicker than the standard broadcast antenna on the fender. The CB antenna also moved across the rear decklid in certain scenes.
I love these attention to detail videos, I always laugh out loud at details such as: This car is most likely an early 82 car because..... and this was only available for 3 months and we tracked and traced all those cars etc. etc. etc. Such nerdy details but I love it If he was a trainspotter I think other trainspotters would call him nerdy. All the details I never wanted to know but am now fascinated that I do know. Brilliant.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Always love a good Trans Am video. Your knowledge never ceases to amaze.
There was also a Full Trans Am used by Universal for the 1982 pilot episode of Miami Vice. Tubbs drove it in NYC before coming to Miami.
I wonder if that one was sent to Knight Rider as well.
30:27, I bet the rear bars sticking out were to put a camera rig on to film front or rear facing shots from the rear of the car.
I wondered about that, or even just a lighting rig or to block out sunlight?
@@CycolacFan true. Who really knows
@@CycolacFan Instead of chasing the car around with a camera truck filming the rig on the back would have been more efficient
@@CallMeAdam2023 exactly, if you went through the whole film you’d probably find a scene or two where they had to be filmed / lit from behind while driving. Maybe there wasn’t room in the trunk for the large batteries needed. But I’d bet it’s framework for some sort of rig.
I wonder if that might also account for moving the exhaust pipes…?
Thank you Joe for your hard work.
That was a great in depth look on Smokey and the Bandit 3 and their Trans Ams. Very interesting. Thank you
Joe there's an episode on the A team it's called when you coming back range Rider. Hannibal and face get chased by the military police in a black Trans Am you might want to check it out.when you get chance
Amazing what you see when a movie is in HD.
I had. 1982 Chevy Camaro. I can tell you it came with a stereo but only had 2 front speakers. My guess is they offered that in the Trans Am also. That is why the front fender antenna is there.
Actually that makes sense because you can see the speaker grills in the dashpad!
I had the pleasure of seeing a Joie Chitwood Stunt Show live once. Back in the early 80’s, at Grandview Speedway in Bechtelsville, PA.
I agree that overall this movie is lackluster, though the scene where Bandit turns to the camera and it's Burt Reynolds still makes me smile to this day.
The mention of the gap in the C piller was to hide the rollbar. I commented on your content in the past and the reason is because your passion and attention to detail. 🤙🤙
the studio opted to do re-shoots in April 1983 The Bandit scenes were re-shot with Jerry Reed playing the role
I would love to see the "smokey is the bandit part 3" original cut. Like Joe pointed out, you can clearly see they didn't reshoot the stunts so the Gleason bandit stunt double proves the movie was actually filmed with Gleason as the bandit.
Hey Joe. Smokey and the Bandit 3 was nearly a famous production to depict one of the best ever K·I·T·T· cars to be on Knight Rider. Some screenshots may help us remember your theory on the Pilot Presentation from last two years. Let me know. Thanks💗
Some police departments, Joe, have asked for radio delete so that they can install the switches to run the lights and sirens (California Highway Patrol being the most notable)
As always, great commentary! I have a theory on the fender antenna... Could it be a radio intercom function for communicating with the actors? How much could you tell us about the electronics used in communicating with actors in K I T T during filming. I feel that the trunk antenna was a prop only. Those things just magnet attached didn't they. Thank you so much for all your hard work and care as you totally ROCK the curator role, dude! - Roy
@Roy Arbogast
Back during this time some aftermarket antenna manufacturers offered antennas that would allow you to have the CB function also integrated into a unit that was installed in place of the factory vehicle antenna! They weren't super common but they were available and people did buy them back until the mid-late 1980s.
Awesome Work Joe, Thanks 👍👍👍 Greetings from Helsinki, Finland 🇫🇮🇺🇸🇫🇮🇺🇸🇫🇮🇺🇸
Really enjoyed this video.. I remember asking if smoking and the bandit 3 cars ended up on kR. I also asked if KR had something to do with the digital dash offered on later production Trans Am's . Actually.... that would be a good comparison video!
This was awesome! I never knew there was another Smokey and the Bandit movie that featured a 3rd gen! Crazy!
One thing I noticed is that they managed to land the jumps without destroying the TAs. They kind of landed all jumps on four wheels. On Knight Rider the cars were often wrecked in turbo boost shots.
Great video as always Joe. That plate almost looks like a big sticker hmmmm.
Thanks for this Joe, always fascinating to delve into another production that used Trans Am’s from the same time period.
You’ve probably been asked this before but it would be cool if you look into the Trans Am that was used for The A-Team when Hannibal & Face steal one in the Episode When Are You Coming Back Range Rider ?
One thing I would like to know, since Joe talked about the Trainwreck cars which were not only in Knight Rider, A-team, and fall guy, this is a fun sidetrip.😎
I had that paperback!
Nice work, don’t be afraid to do this for every car movie and TV show ever made; we’ll watch them 👍 😉
This was a great video! By the way, the number 2 on the T/A is a description of the movie!!
I noticed around 1710 when you're looking at the small bird on the hood, the Confederate flag plate is upside down on a car.
The stars are upside down, it's supposed to be right side up.
The center star is the easiest to see.
Also the scene before that when a car is spinning around, it's got different wheels on it?
I really enjoy this video, I'm going to get back into it now..
I would love to see outtakes from this movie. Of course all the Buford as the bandit stuff, but I imagine there was a blooper where all 4 hubcaps went flying in opposite directions during the 360 spin and they had to reshoot it with them removed.
Im a trucker and love both Knight Rider and Smokey and the Bandit!
Interesting details. Thank you very much, Joe.
I never thought I would be so interested in a movie that I never bothered to watch, thank you!
Weren't rear speakers an option? Looked like a factory antennea in one of the earlier shots when Jackie Gleason's stunt double was driving. May just be an AM radio car
Yes you are correct!
9 time Oscar nominated?....must of been a slow year for movies in 1983...lol
Great video!
That other Antenna is the stock one. Came on almost every car!
Great analysis…I’ve always wondered if this TA was linked to KR, all the way from Essex in the UK!
There is a Black and Gold TA in the pilot of Miami Vice that Tubbs drives briefly. I wonder if that car was connected to this film or KR…?
16:32 I bet that antenna is some sort of rigging for the sound car, which might explain the radio delete option too actually, as it might have simplified production
A tan interior from a radio delete car might’ve been swapped into the car used for insert shots, which could’ve had a radio and charcoal interior, so the stock AM/FM antenna and charcoal seat belts remained.
it was not a delete car but front speakers only!
Great video Joe I always wondered if any of these cars where connected to knight rider. Think the knight rider team would of had plenty of parts for the Kitt Car's
17:13, 22:31, I wonder if that second antenna was for some sort of audio piece inside the car, like microphones or something so it could transmit the audio to a remote source close by.
Great video Joe and AJ!! There is one important video that you can make, and this is in 'The A-Team' in the episode 'When are you comin' back Range Rider', Hannibal and Face drive in a Trans Am and are being chased by Col. Decker!! Please clarify in a video if that car was used in Knight Rider!!
There was one episode of the a team where they drove around a Pontiac trans am to get away from the military you should do a video on them scenes and good video as always
1983 Recaro in "when you comin' back range rider pt 1" you can find the scene on UA-cam.
"Somebody ought to tell this guy he's got a shimmy at 85" - hannibal
I never thought there could be a connection between the 2 shows
I like to think of this as Michael Long's Trans Am that was repossessed by the police after his "death". It ended up as Bandit's car. 😎
I always wondered and thought that! Glad your talking about it!!💗😎👍🤠
Yeah but the orange truck is a Ford L-series! Universal Orlando used a mockup Ford L-series for the Earthquake attraction and one day I was there and they were using an L-series to pull a tram!!! The producers were the ones who picked the car makes. TV producer Glen Larson favored GM, others used Fords. You'd always see large Ford trucks in background scenes of tons of Universal TV shows.
Notice to that gmc general single axle had the trailer "Blocked Up" to allow the car to come underneath... Otherwise a car CANT go under a trailer since it sits to low
Nice research. I always wondered about that car as it was a Universal Picture car, if it could have been used as a KITT crash-car.
In my opinion, it's highly unlikely that there's any correlation between 'Smokey & The Bandit 3' & 'Knight Rider'.
Either that, or, it's a complete coincidence...
The actress's name is Colleen Camp
Very interesting. I do have this movie, just because of the Trans-Am but haven't watched it in long time though.
Since there was a gold strip along the bottom of the body, maybe those seat belts are gold colored to match it.
The radio antenna I believe is because that car was not a radio delete car but was a higher optioned car that had the tan interior swapped in probably after destroying one of the cars.
Way back in the day, black seatbelts in a coloured interior was fairly common. One used to have to "step up" and order the "custom" seat belts that matched the interior color. That could be the case here, but I'm not 100%. I can't find with a cursory Google search an 82-83 Trans Am options list.
Also the rear speakers being absent might not make the car a "radio delete" car. By the 1980's, most cars came standard with at least an AM radio especially (one would think) something as upmarket as a Trans Am. My money would be on this being a fairly low-option Trans Am (to keep costs down) as it has the base interior and probably the basic Audio option of an AM radio. Since AM in 1982-1983 was still monaural.... there would be no need for multiple speakers and the car would've come with a single speaker in the dash.
Also, that front license "plate" looks more like a big decal.
Re: the numbered cars. I noticed this years ago on the DVD.... it's quite visible. I wonder if it has anything to do with how the productions were split. Like you say, initially, the movie was Smokey IS the Bandit and after that tested poorly; they went back and shot the scenes with Jerry Reed. Notice though, that in most (maybe all?) scenes WITH Jerry Reed and the car.... you don't see any number. They were obviously filming later. Could they have gotten back one of the cars used in the initial filming? Sadly.... most of the people who could fill in these blanks are no longer with us.
well done again Joe! While this entry into the Bandit franchise was not up to par, i always found it interesting that the movie we got, was not exactly what was filmed. Imagine this... the original movie -Smokey is the Bandit- was soooo bad, that they went back, re-shot with Reed & Camp,re-edited to get the movie we now have. And this is considered the worst of the 3. So just how bad was the original? Wondering if a copy exists after all this time. There is footage with Gleason Dressed as "the Bandit"...so....???
The legend is that Jackie Gleason was so embarrassed by the poor showing at the preview screening that he bought the negative of all his Bandit footage, put it in a vault, and forbade anyone to show it. I think that's pretty far fetched. More likely, the footage was simply trashed by Universal so that the original version could never be recreated. I think if the footage exists, it would have surfaced by now.
@@nealpatterson629 interesting, i'd still like to see that,but who knows....
You pointed out that even the car used for the close-ups with Jerry Reed and Colleen Camp was fairly basic and beat up. I can't help but wonder if this was the case because the Jerry Reed re-shoots occurred months after the original Jackie-Gleason-as-the-Bandit scenes were shot. Perhaps they originally had a nicely appointed Trans Am for the close-ups, but by the time they went back to do the reshoots, they only had the various stunt cars which were pretty beat up. I know this is all speculation and there's no way to be sure, but they always had a nicely appointed hero car for the first two Bandit films. Or it could just be that this production was done on the cheap.
That was cool. I've been wondering what year car this is supposed to be. You answered that for me. :)
Awesome job on this video! I know I wasn’t the only one who watched this movie for the Trans Am only. Sorry Jerry Reed & Jackie Gleason.
I can remember a episode of the A Team where Hannibal Smith was driving one of those Trans Ams too
Iv said it before Joe, you are a total T/A nerd and god bless you for it 👌
SATB3 wasn't the best film....but still not as bad as some others made in the 80s
the 80's films are better than the junk now.
@@jmjfanss absolutely
There were 4 cars used in Smokie and The Bandit 3. According to my research they were 83' models. Charcoal seatbelts possibly factory it's rare to see charcoal with tan but possibly. 3 of the 4 cars were Wrecked up so bad or modified to the point there was nothing left buy the end of filming. The location of the surviving car is unknown witch is the hero car it was unnumbered with car stereo. Car #1 mostly a high speed action car definitely didn't have antenna, or radio, or hubcaps and had big letter dirty bandit plate, lots of undercarriage damage was the least damage of the two action cars "kinda"... Car #2 action car had it's taped on antenna (aka no radio), "sometimes" had big letter plate not dirty and not only was the exhaust shifted over but so was the rear axle shifted to the driver side along with the front fender damage from hitting Smokie, This car was severely damaged and why it was in the jump scene at the beginning of the movie but shot at the end. The last car was an unnumbered highly modified stunt car was the one with the modifications to the suspension and towbar, Not even certain if this was a true Firebird underneath.
As for the question proposed...
I'm certain car #2 was a 100% unoperable by the end of filming. #1 Only one possible to head over Knight Rider, but I seriously doubt it... The highly modified stunt car, as well was purposely built for the movie, almost certain it was crushed afterwards... Maybe some parts saved out of all the 3 the cars for Knight Rider it's possible, but they were all in very very bad condition at the end of filming. Oh and no the hero car did not go Knight Rider... However nobody knows what happened to it.
Checked the 1982 brochure and are 5 option for radio in the TA, some of them featuring fron speakers and other having “extended range rear speakers” And none of them had a radio as standard.
Great video. Having seen Smokey 3 a few times, I never noticed the things you pointed out (I will now though lol). How many years was that particular bodystyle in production because there was a red TA in the film Coming to America driven by Eriq LaSalle's character? Knight Rider had finished filming by this time (1988) but it's a puzzle
Second jump also has the CB Antenna so possibly a different car
Tow antennas could have been a scanner for police activities, some of them had a separate antennas
20:05 now there's an antenna in the back seat? Guessing the trunk-mounted one was too tall for going under the truck, so it got thrown there.
at 20:33 you missed that now the second antenna is now in the back seat lol
20:30 the car antenna in behind the actress in this shot. In one of the first shots the CB antenna isn't centered. Looks like they only used magnet mount antennas so no holes for installation (also cheaper)
Great video thanks
31:02 Hmm, I thought traction bars were used on leaf-spring vehicles. Isn't this body regardless of who's badge is on it, coil springs?
Looking at that possible traction bar, at 7:05 the sunlight catches a blurry bright square shape in the same area as the traction bar support or mounting which you show at 30:57, plus the Bandit font on the plate is the same larger font, not the cheaper one. At 31:32, the CB antenna is offset, weren't those magnetic?
What about Micheal Long's Trans Am? Is it possible that S&B 3 Trans Am of been used?? Although Micheal Longs T/A had a shiny dippled steering wheel rim.....
28:45. You can also get a good look at the drivers side grill that is not properly seated. This is visible in the earlier scenes too, like tge one where he picks up the woman.
Interesting, I watch 1 & 2 but never watch #3 I lost interest after watching #2 but I have them. Now I have to watch it just to re-analyze what you just mentioned in this episode lol
When the woman Dusty, gets in the car, the door looks to not have the stripes above the gold. The tag on the front was a decal, can see it peeled away in some scenes and note there are no screw holes in the so called plate, like the novelty plates of the era would have. Those novelty decals adorned a few pickups all over the south. At 28:44 can see the left grille looks loose at bottom and sticking out.
Wow I didn't know that about the TAs in smokey and the bandit 3. Another good movie. I have seen that movie at least 6 times, and never paid attention.
My first car was a 82 Firebird v-6, t-top, and 4 speed manual transmission. I’m pretty sure it was originally a radio delete car because the antenna was an aftermarket electric unit mounted in the rear drivers side instead of in the front passenger fender. Also the trim piece where the radio was had been cut for a standard din radio and not the large opening that most GM cars had at that time for the factory radio they offered. It did have the cloth covers in the rear interior panels but if I recall, the speaker holes looked to be cut by hand and not factory openings. I’ve always wondered how many radio delete f-bodies were made in those days.