How 2 weeks of KBM ruined Rocket League for me
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- Опубліковано 27 чер 2024
- Thanks to Casetify for sponsoring this video! Go to www.casetify.com/thanovic today to get 15% off on your new favourite phone case! How 2 weeks of KBM ruined Rocket league for me. Today's video is the story of how I spent 2 weeks playing rocket league on keyboard and mouse, what I learnt in that time, how far through the ranks I got and my overall thoughts on keyboard and mouse in general. Learning keyboard and mouse in rocket league was something that I had put off for a long time because I knew how difficult kbm would be. But I am glad that I spent the time learning kbm in rocket league because while It did tilt me, I had a lot of fun along the way. But it also ruined rocket league for me for a while there, I have never raged so much in my life. On the plus side, I learnt how to play rocket league on keyboard and mouse, and can hold my own against some higher level opponents, so maybe the rocket league keyboard and mouse challenge wasnt too bad after all.
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Hi
U need to stop complaining about not being able to do stuff in 14 days because your hands can't do itt. And shit tm8 this happens to all of us, the hand movements is not a problem ur mindset is. I have Cerebral palsy my hands are so wobbly and I find it hard to do stuff. I'm gc m8, for someone who complains about mindset alot you had a very very bad mindset.
I am kbm 😐
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30 days of playing with champ 2s
Thanovic: “KBM was horrible, I was only able to get to C1 on the 2nd day.”
Me who has grinded over 1000 hours to be C1: “🙃”
Is fiiiine dude he had game sense. Game sense is op and Id still consider it smurfing. Although, I'm not against smurfing
@@ghad6799 Wait! Y?! XD 🙃 :')!
Now you're stuck in a weird purgatory where everyone is good and bad at the same time
Well he has over 4k hours
@@darioparisi6863 why as to what?
-Game sense is op for reasons evident in the video
-smurfing is not so bad since it's not a rampant problem. It gives the lower rated players some opportunities to learn once in every 100 games or so. You don't encounter smurfs too often and it's interesting to see them play from time to time
1 big thing thanovic learned from this is, we actually have bad teammates 😤
I swear
99.99999% of people who say they have bad teammates are actually the bad teammates
@@fateerah851 Those people also have bad teammates, so really the whole lobby sucks and the winner is decided by who sucks the least
@@johnschauer6832 exactly lmaooooo
This is all confusing, everybody sucks and they are at your rank for a reason
Though i get where you are coming from because i cant win plat games but can win diamond and champ games just from my playstyle, took some luck for me to get to diamond and then i jumped to champ in a day
But i was plat for 3 months
"I had no mechanics. Couldn't aerial."
*Shows multiple clips of aerial double touches*
I know! It annoyed me so much. Says he's bad then shows a clip of him doing something he just said he couldn't do.
@@realtechhacks his point was he sucked at it and his intentions for his gc mindset makes him think he can hit more than he actually can. Those were the only aerials in this video lol
I'm sure he means consistently and precisely. As a grandchamp if I hit those same shots I would be on the same mindset as him.
@@Auroraisvibing21 I know. I realize he's just showing the highlights and those were probably few and far between. I just thought it was funny. Lol
@@skrobie No, I get what he was saying, but saying he can't do something while showing a clip of him doing it is a bit odd.
Been playing KBM my whole life, never even thought to use my controller when I started playing rl.
As a KBM Player who was forced to learn KBM because my controller broke
You are crazy (in a good way)
I don't think I can learn to play Rocket League using a Controller, I'll keep using KBM till I die xD
Good to see a fellow kbm player. I’ve tried controller but had the same issue as thanovic. Now with 2.2k hours in, gc in most modes I only recently found out about air roll left/right binds 😂. I had been using shift-wasd all the time, but man even trying to add that to my skillset feels like I’m learning the controlss all over again.
@@Mau_S yooo no way! 🤣
I'm almost 1.9k hrs in C1 been using Q & E since gold. I wish I cld use my mouse buttons but I got one of those cheap no name mice and my front button doesn't work while holding left click...so boosting and air rolling is out of the question
Finally some fellow kbm players ;)
when i played KBM for a bit i use left and right arrow for jump/boost. very clean setup for just keyboard
hey same :D
wtf FranzJ what you doin here
FranzJ Presents.
Yeah, I did the same back when I tried KBM. :D
Having a mouse feels more pleasant imo since its easier to control how fast i click. I did the same when i tried to play with just a keyboard though
I love how much this highlights the importance of game sense. I'm a game sense prominent player, and have felt that my mechanics have been slowing my progress. This video made me realize that my game sense could definitely use some work too.
yup, it's important to realize that even your strengths could still use improving. game sense got me to C1, where I got hard stuck last season. realized that just because it got me there, didn't mean I could ignore it going forward. have been making slow improvement to both game sense and mechanics, and started breaking into C2 this season (still jump back and forth a bit).
@@spforevr11 I finally got out of a horrible cycle of death. I had literally been stuck in gold for years because of a combination of bad internet, only playing ones, not really wanting to play to much because of bad internet, which made progress deathly slow, and just being mad all the time, which just ruined my experience. Some time last year I stopped playing altogether for almost a year, only checking in when there were free items and stuff, and generally just not playing for almost a year. But a few weeks ago I finally started playing again with somewhat better internet(it was still a low 5 mb per sec) and I got into plat. A week ago we finally got fiber optic internet, and now I’m in plat 3(hit diamond but fell back down)/790 mmr in ones, and I’m pretty happy honestly. It’s so nice not having 999+ Ping constantly also I finally get to have my plat rewards after seasons of gold and silver
@JTH this is how I've gone from plat 2 to d2. Just being in the right spot, and serving my teammate the ball on a silver platter. I can't dribble, can't flick, can't speed flip. The only mechanic I CAN do is a half flip. But by just being the Watson to my teammate' s Holmes, I win games that I have absolutely no business winning mechanically.
Yes, I thought i couldn't get off the plat/diamond rank because of my mechanics, but, watching some controller players playing for the 1st time in KBM, i realized that Game Sense is everything..
And, like you said, trying to incorporate these mechanics, made me slow down my game progress in general..
honestly props to you for even giving this a go lol, seems like a really hard transition to make
Yeah, two weeks can be forever!
I tried going to controller from KBM for a week and couldn't get over the transition to using the left/right triggers for reverse/forward. May try it again some other time.
@@jmugurr994 was the same for me at first, now i just struggle to brake properly.
Now imagine kbm to controller, tried it once wanted to cry
I switched from kbm to controller for a bit and instantly went from plat to bronze. Not good transition
i love this becuase ive only been playing rocket league for less than a year and this is how i feel being pretty new in general. The whole "I know what i need to do but my hands can't do it" hits me deep man
Not having access to a controller when I started playing meant I've been playing with KBM for over 2000 hours now. I can absolutely vouch for both the upsides and downsides of KBM vs controller. As clearly shown by people like Henkovic and Evample, it's definitely possible to do really complex mechanics on keyboard, but the learning curve is definitely steeper than on controller (that said, I've spent almost no time actually practising advanced mechanics like flips resets, so take this with a grain of salt).
lmao relatable, I have like 600 hours only though as well so I dont think I need to
@@Hotgirlsmakemecry Yeah until around high GC you won't need it. The best improvement is getting better at the basics and decision-making.
Funny how it's a really 'positive' sounding video about KBM but he fucking hates it LOL
There are upsides to KBM?
1k ish hours on kbm,c3,dogshit consistency and accuracy 😊.The c3s in your lobby you love to have
Thank you for this awesome video and message. As a KBM player you'll always question yourself and whether you did make the right choice. This helped me a lot to just do, what feels right and not to have the pressure of thinking what I could've achieved as a Controller player. Nice vid!
Congrats on 300k, thanks for your content. You've really helped me become a better player at RL, and I enjoy watching you in general.
2 weeks of suffering is definitely worth a sub gg thanovic
Can confirm. Experienced his pain live with him in the twitch streams!
CONGRATS ON 300K !!!
"I played calm and capitalised my opponent's mistakes because, in Diamond, there's a lot of them."
*Diamond players felt that*
I'm diamond and i can't even air dribble =))
i’m champ 2, and i hit my first quad flip reset the other day.
Plat players felt that.
@@AlexxWWE15 bro im c3/gc and never air dribble usually lol
Thanovic and Sunless uploading the same hour? What a blessing.
The way you describe feeling helpless because you know what to do, but you can't get your hands to do the actions needed perfectly sums up my regular Rocket League experience.
I've spent so much time watching pro players, freestylers, replays, tutorial videos in the 2 years I've been playing this game. Whenever a play opportunity presents itself, I usually immediately know what possible plays can be made, but when I go for it and I don't get a good touch just because I wasn't precise enough or I was a tad bit slower or faster on the ball and then I have to watch the ruined play unfold before me.
Knowing there are all these amazing plays to go for, but not being able to perform them is what makes me feel helpless.
Congrats on 300k!!
Great vid, Congrats on 300k
Oooooooooh man, I cannot express how validated I feel in my gameplay now after watching this. The struggles of teammates that just leave you bewildered at their choice of action. The pain of knowing you are mechanically so far behind most but can still keep up through game sense and knowing when and where you need to be. Thankyou you mad lad. Finally people will stop obsessing over flip resets and flashy mechanics as the path to getting good. Maybe...
@@fatscorebags4294 yeah that's fair, it's the zone where people don't make so many mistakes so you need that toolbelt of skills
any new kind of imput requires muscle memory which depends on the person but can get solid progress within a month for at least the basics of moving. Outside games played that involve lots of keyboard input for movement is also helpful. One thing to consider is whether or not there's a mechanical kb available. It can make a big difference in turning. Also, forgot to note that half flips are the easiest thing in the world and there's no way to fail one once u know how to do it.
Congrats on 300k!!! 💪
Congrats on 300k!
This is exactly how I feel when using a controller xD I could never do that for more than a day, so props for putting yourself through that for that long!
I always try to do it and give up after a few hours
Funny how the thing that tilted him the most and made him give up is what most of us midrange players suffer with on the daily. We know what we should do but our hands just aren’t doing it yet 😂
You have some super solid content. It's not just entertaining, it's often informative. 30 day challenge - teaching one of your parents to play.
I play kbm and everything you were getting mad about resonates with me so much. Honestly like I just got to champ 1 and I’ve been struggling on basic things sometimes. Idk what it is but for some reason my muscle memory just goes down the drain sometimes and I miss everything.
Big props to you man, surprised you lasted 20 hours. I'm a kbm player and I tried switching to controller. I didn't last an hour, I had the same problem as you. I knew what I wanted to do but I just didn't how to do it on controller. It was so frustrating.
Yo same im a kbm player thats tried to switch to controller but got hard stuck with mechanics and basic game sence. It made me so upset knowing that 90%+ of people play on controller.
I love how u point out the toxicity in the lower ranks. I actually think that that's what ruins peoples way to rank up in several cases tbh!
Love your content tho ❤
@Caruso Merido man, I don't think so. If I don't wan't toxicity in the game, I shouldn't bring it in either.
Congrats on 300K
CONGRATS ON 300K
i know it ain’t a big transition but maybe a less stressful one , but maybe try an Xbox controller and see if you like a ps4 controller or Xbox controller better
maybe even the PS5 controller instead.
Srry to all the ps4 controller players but that shit ain't built for human hands
@@mitchpierce6572 I'm pretty sure he is using a PS5 controller atm
Thrustmaster Xbox controller is pretty op
Switch pro ctrlr wft
So what you're saying is... I can't get out of champ because of my teammates?
No
Ive been stuck in champ for the majority of my playing time and ive improved a lot both mechanically and positionally. But goddamn these fucking teammates just make the dumbest desiscions all the fucking time and then blame it on everyone but themselves....
(Im sorry ive been in this hell hole for way to long...)
@@Anthony-lv4ki trying being more on the defensive side and let them do whatever they do until you find an opportunity to score then just defend that's what I did to get from gold 3 to D1 where I'm Currently stuck because I gotta improve
Congratulations on 300k
Thanks for not despising KBM as i am a KBM Plat too, and i'm consistent enough to miss a whole backboard sized open net- I MEAN to air dribble off the wall, and i would think the same of ctrl. It would be hard to get used to, but i would feel both the upsides and the downsides too.
You just defined how people get stuck in champ😂
Yep
Next video: I only played on 60fps for a week/month
Console players already be smacking that challenge
@@solarbear7017 mhm
@@solarbear7017 yeah but I mean Thanovic, he always seems to play on 144/240 FPS. It’d be a challenge for him I’d say
@@solarbear7017 FAX
Me a 1600 on the original Xbox one being upset because I'm essentially handicapped
i started today my first day with mouse and kb, im really not good at all but i like to play the game. and im feeling way better actually then with con...
i really hope i can so near the same like u in 2 weeks only. have a nice gaming life dude :) your vid makes me to train harder then just givinng up after some fails..
Congratulations on 300k subs
Everyone: We had bad teamates
Also Everyone: We r also the bad teamates
Conclusion: We all suck - Sunlesskhan
This is exactly how i feel
My reaction to a bad teammate: "its okay we still might have a chance"
My reaction to a decent but toxic teammate: "i dont think i can make it through this one"
As someone who has reached GC without being able to even air dribble, I can confirm that game sense and proper rotation will get you far. I stopped playing a while ago and just recently got back into it, so now I'm only C1-C2 because I'm just not consistent with my shots anymore, but really all it took was being solid and in the right position. The fanciest thing I can do is hit some basic double taps sometimes. Also, I'm glad you could see what it's really like playing with champs because now you understand my suffering and honestly the main reason I quit in the first place. Most teammates I get are more mechanically skilled that I am, which makes them feel like they're allowed to trash talk me for everything that goes wrong, even though they keep bumping me, cutting me off and stealing my boost. It's so incredibly frustrating. Missing open nets is one thing, I can forgive that since it happens to everyone. But I just wish they would use their brain at the very least.
my essays aren't as long as this
@@pandodp1708 no wonder youre failing
@@auroraofstars i have a b+ in ap English 11 smd
@@pandodp1708 i would love to 😈
@@pandodp1708 Damn bro B+ in english 11, thats mad bro. Crazy.
Congrats on 300k
I totally understand that feeling of helplessness with the controls. I can see in my mind what i want but the execution always eludes me. To be fair, im sub 100 hours in the game so im still learning quite a bit. This combined with the rough teammates im getting at the G3/P1 level make the game a real chore to grind. I just have to get better
I'm stuck in c1 because tms are so toxic it makes me mot want to play lol
cry
C1 is hell, well champ in general is hell.
I switched my chat to show team quick chat only. That way neither the enemies or my teammates can type to me and be annoying.
@ImDino yea safest bet is to just chill in freeplay or workshop maps lol
Him : Henkovic Evample Henkovic evemple......
Yukeo : "Am I joke to you?"
Well Yukeo is more of a smarter player than mechanical if you're comparing him to Evample or Henkovic
Nice vid thanovic its fun to see people try Kbm for the first time. I started playing rl a bit after f2p and I never had a controller so I started using kbm, after a month I tried using a controller but I just couldn’t under stand it XD so I have stayed with kbm ever since I’m d3 in 2s and have around about 750 xp lvl I feel I’m progressing kinda slow but I’m happy lol. I would like to know other kbm ranks just for fun.
Made me feel better that you were having such a hard time with your C1 teammates. I actually felt like my teammates on avg got way worse once I hit champz
I would say I’m about 250 hrs in playing KBM and I love it. I tried playing controller and hated it. I gave it a good 20 hrs of practice and still hated it, so yeah I can agree, it’s definitely your preference.
Day 1 and 8h of kbm C1
Me: 4 years and 1700h on kb(keyboard only) and C1 *cries*
1700 hour keyboard gang
Also champ 1 *cries*
@@thelacedog1915 wona play sometimes?
Sure I'm down whenever. My epic is Lacedog
@@thelacedog1915 mine is FAREMLG
@Thanovic I'm a c1 kbm player and I have attempted using a ps4 controller many many times and I end up feeling the same way you do about playing kbm. I really liked your conclusions about playing kbm and I feel the exact same way you do when comparing control vs snappy movements. I, however, prefer the snappy movement of kbm. You will get the same angle every time you press keys in the same sequence and it lets you do repetitive actions reliably. Practicing those blackout situations is critical.
I really appreciate that you tried this challenge even if you quit early. I feel slightly more represented and justified as a kbm player now, thanks.
Let’s go I’ve been waiting for this vid
I know this was gruelling for you, but I'd love to see you finish the challenge.
For me, not playing for a week made me horribly inconsistent
Same except I can only play once a month
@@rimusen6364 why only once a month?
@@246bro9 I only see my dad once a month and that's where ma gaming setup is. Also havent got room for it at my mums. Luckily I've saved up from working and now I can afford a decent enough laptop to play it.
@@rimusen6364 oh okie. i personally recommend u save up more to get a good gaming pc. but if u cant then the laptop will prob do the job
congrats on 300k and the fact you got to my rank (c2) in kbm
* I was ready to throw hands with a few of my lads*. Mate I feel your pain with those teammates.
20 hours to get to champ 2, must be nice 😒
Fr
as kbm champ i can say that champs are glorified plats
The head through the wall scene made me like immediately 🤣
thx for the experiment. i was thinking about to change to keyboard and i try´d but it wasnt fun so i gave up
“People who worked on mechanics hitting flip resets” in a champ 2 lobby😂😂 people who work on mechanics should be able to hit double in champ if they did actually work on mechanica
wdym
So if they worked on their mechanics you would think that they can do double flip resets? Wtf??
@@NoahHoi ye
@@NoahHoi like cch’s
@@NoahHoi makes sense to me otherwise their not actually working on them that hard
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the whole idea/issue of knowing exactly what you want to do but just not being able to do and your brain just dying is an issue i have had for like my entire rocket league play time which is such a tilting thing so i related to this heavily lol
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as a mostly kbm player, i am amazed at how good you are at it with 20 odd hours. I have spent 500 hours and am barely in gold.
Mad respect to you for going for it ! But I guess it's the same thing as your 100 hours videos, the concept is good for views but you always end up burnt out, I'm glad you made the decision to stop after 14 days, you don't have to go through this haha
Also, just wanted to say that I started RL exactly a year ago, queuing with my wife every night after work for about an hour. I learnt mostly through your videos and we just made it to C1, so thanks !
300k subs! #welldonethanovic
lol i just wanted to mention that what you are describing is what athletes go through as they age, knowing exactly how to move/counter/perform a task but their body is failing them in a position where when they were younger/better shape they could do something with ease. It is incredibly frustrating.
So for anyone reading this that doesnt understand why old heads react the way they do during something like open gym, Thanovic gives a fantastic perspective of our mental abilities not matching our physical abilities.
Im old was around when snowboarding came out. I grew up skiing. Could shred the whole mountain, I felt the same way as you when I tried to learn to Ride.
I'm C1 in 2s and can confirm my teammates are terrible, but unfortunately so am I. Every time my teammate misses and open net I have to remind myself of the open net I missed last game. It's actually pretty interesting how at that rank people are starting to become competent at some pretty serious mechanics but still don't have any of the consistency.
Free style with a thrust master
This guy is making everybody think we should all be *Champ One in 2 days*
I feel you man, I've played kbm since I've started my rocket league journey (late 2022), I got to diamond 3 and I couldn't go further so I bought my first controller ever, It is so hard to play on it since I am used to kbm, although I am confident that I will be able to learn how to use it
finally, someone who else wants to throw hands against champ players 🙏🏻
The stuff he said about teammates being toxic is soooo true, every other game a get a teammate who hits me with some sarcastic quick chat after I mess up, I feel like when most rocket league content creators give us low ranks (gold- champ specifically) tips on how to deal with toxic teammates, they don’t even understand how bad it is because they’ve been in the high ranks (gc-ssl) for so long wheee there is more mutual respect and less mistakes so less toxicity
Every person on here complaining "it's all my team mate's fault" and then chastising people for blaming their team mate, is a hypocrite.
i also wanted to use the thumb mouse buttons for air rolling but it was too much at once so i defaulted the bind and then changed it once i was more familiar
When he said cutting them off I felt that cuz I get called bad when they’re the ones who cut me off
10:00
as a kbm and mouse only player and still newish to rocket league this hit home for me
Thanovic is the first UA-camr to actually acknowledge the struggle of bad tm8s in champ and below instead of just saying “Don’t blame your teammates!”
What a save!
Thought this video would be boring but trust me guys he’s tilted at 7:50 and it makes the whole video…love all your content @thanovic keep it up pleeeaaassseeeee
Interesting video Thanovic! What was the challenge and adjustment period going back to controller, if any?
hey thanovic, as a KBM main, and trying to make the switch over to controller, i could say exactly the same thing and would go through your troubles when you made the switch over. your mind is so ingrained into muscle memory from KBM/Controller, that you expect the same outcome from what you want to do, but also forget that they are completely different inputs. In saying that, i never touched a controller again
Tried this myself awhile back and had a horrible headache after 30 minutes and then promptly gave up lol
I played 2 years on KBM because when i started playing on steam, i didn't have a controller to connect on pc, and i didn't had any interest on one, i achieved diamond 2, i knew how to aerial, and other mecanics, in november 2022, i started playing on controller again (i played on console 2016-2019) and now i can't play on kbm anymore, controller is so good
I usually like using controller for games that feel more intuitive for it. But Ive stopped and just always use KBM. Insane how stick drag and sticky buttons the controllers run into.
Bro I’m C3 and if I get scored on in the first minute my teammates like to gf and when I don’t do then start to play for the other team! This has happened about 6/20 ranked games in the past week
Agree im in C2 and people just fucking ff when we are 1 goal down even if there are 3-4 minutes left in the game. And if I don't FF they just sit in net or troll and own goal. Why do these waste of oxygen players even queue in the first place. Baffles me
We appreciate your sacrifice, good sir. Care to make another in the form of playing using the Scarab for 30 days?
6:50 omg I’ve wanted too hear him say that for the longest time lol
Probably the most difficult thing as a kbm player when trying out controller is the difference in the way jumping works. So after a while i legit gave up on controller because of the jumps
your two weeks is my whole rocket league experience
D1 is my peak and this video made me realize I must not have the game sense I thought... now I'm questioning why I even play...lol. Thanks for pushing me Thano!!!!!!
took me 3 years to get to champ 2...makes me sad seeing this video😔good job on it thought i definitely wouldnt be able to do this.
Over the past 4/5 seasons I’ve managed to climb to high diamond tier never getting past it but I also don’t take time to practice moves etc.
My little brother and I started playing around the same time and he actually practices crazy moves and stuff he’s way better at performing crazy stuff and getting the ball where it needs to be where I capitalise on mistakes etc.
Oddly enough we’re both the same rank and can’t get higher at the moment but it’s interesting to see how we both differ in playing style but can compete together in similar ranks.
one time you told me to rotate back post in-game then dropped a video about it that I watched a week later
i went from ps4 to pc and this summed up the controller to kbm swap perfectly thank you . note I still play with a roller.
I recently switched my controller config and it makes for soooo many mistakes. I'm not hung up on rank as much as some others right now, but it still took a huge hit.
Champ 1 ruined RL for me. 3000 hours in and I'm stuck in that toxic barrel for good. I'm floored that you reached that level in just 14 days. I just can't do it any more.
i started playing rocket league on keyboard and mouse yesterday after my highest point on controller being gold 2 the first 3 hours of me playing i reached diamond 2 and on my second day i've pretty much learnt to flip reset with a total of 5 hours playtime on mouse and keyboard