How Gaming Can Be a Force for Good | Noah Raford | TED
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- Опубліковано 10 лип 2024
- If you think social media is powerful, keep an eye on immersive video games, says futurist Noah Raford. As more and more people are drawn into gaming and virtual worlds, the communities they forge are spawning real-world social movements. Raford urges us to recognize what's really going on -- and then harness those forces to build the future we want.
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“Pray to win” 😭😭😭 man this guy is off his rocker
I disagree with people on these Ted talks sometimes. But I generally wouldn’t call them a hack. But the fact this dude was given the stage to “throw up words” just shows the people who decide on the speakers need to seriously reevaluate their speakers.
This guy’s credibility went out the window when he started talking about NFTs, crypto, and the metaverse as the future of gaming. It’s so clear he has zero experience with gaming and didn’t even bother to look at the general sentiment about those things within the gaming community.
You don't have to believe that NFTs or the metaverse are a good thing to believe that they can be influential
You don't speak for gamers. Be your own bank. Own your assets.
@@dennisthemenace567 I think you don't know a lot about videogames and how many times companies tried to add NFTs or all that metaverse bull**** and failed miserably. It's clear. People are losing hope in the future but they're not dumb enough to enter into the cripto trash.
@@FangChaChomp I think it's pretty clear gamers decide what they like and not you and Ubisoft random commenter gl tho
In today's episode of TED Talks - A man that clearly doesnt understand video games attempts to explain them and advocate everyone else learn to understand video game culture.
Starts with saying that studies show that video games have no credible connection to an increase of violence, but then says that video games will lead people to commit violence...and then spins it to say we can use the same influence to do the opposite.
Nice strawman. Your example only works if you skip all of the other steps he mentioned.
@@gallectee6032 Fair, but sure, he explains a lot in between why that could be the case and states examples, but that's hardly a scientific analysis. He's based his conjecture by starting with a myth (one he admits that most scholars say is likely a myth) that doesn't accurately compare to video game influence except only on that games also provide meaning and purpose for people. The same argument could also be said of so many other influencers and their tools that they use to give meaning and purpose. More could be said about tik tokers and stupid challenges that quantifiably put people into hospitals. It's hardly a strong argument. Sure video games can be used as a tool but not everyone becomes radicalized. And the data and analysis should bebused to say that. He doesn't. He just paints a story to explain his opinion. That why it just seems that in the beginning he claims that video games don't have influence but then gets to the argument that they do have an influence. I'm sure there is some level of influence but he doesn't even come close to quantifying it other than views, watch hours and money spent. That doesn't necessarily equate to radicalization
@@gallectee6032 I will say though that i agree thag the overall path of video games being influential will be a thing and more indepth and involved than we imagined. And if that is happening that people will want to use it for good and bad. Just will it become a crisis? And can we do anything about it? And should we?
Increase in violence in non-violent people is different from influencing violent people to commit violent act.
Yes but he doesn't discern that difference here.
I like how the goalpost has shifted from "Video games cause violence" to "Video games cause extremists" can't wait for the next boogeyman Video games cause
As a gamer myself, I do not see any of this right now. The general gaming communities do not talk about nor support games that are linked to real extreme movements, racist game, whacky Qanon game, so-called "Christian" (ultra-conservative) game, etc. I follow gaming news and UA-camrs everyday: never heard of those. BUT there are social norms that are bolstered, and they are rather positive, against discrimination and even *against* the political or ideological divisions we see in real-life. To be followed, but I see mostly positive values currently and the gaming community does fight back against predatory behavior, discrimination, sexism, exploitation, money-grabbing game design, critical of the micro-transactions you spoke of and seem to support (albeit there are sadly many who spend more than they should), etc.
"Hey guys... video games are NOT linked to violence, its been proven"... I felt like he "alluded" to not sh*tting on games.. but then he took the worst steaming pile of crap right on top of the WHOLE genre. He linked it to something pretty bad. *Sighs heavily*
I watched the whole thing waiting for the turn around point, & I don't think it ever came.
His point at the start: "video games are a cult, very scary!"
His sales pitch later: "let's make a video game cult, but actually as a good cult"
Bruh a cult is a cult, it's bad by default wtf are you saying lol
Yeah, I mean why create an nature game cult if you could just you know invest more into nature preserves. Or instead of creating a "rust like" vr game for refugees how about we just give the UNHCR more money.
We can make the world an better place without creating new cults.
This man hasn't played a videogame in his life.
Yeah, this guy is a moron
Ok show the proof
@@aakarmamtora3470 quit defending this idiot
@@aakarmamtora3470 no
@@aakarmamtora3470 The proof is this video
A bit extreme, no? Like I'm playing Genshin and then I'll want to enter the cult and "take the capital"? Weird...
11:30 if that's the case then jobs like plumbing or gardening or house renovation or farming will be paying 100x basic wage?
Somebody gotta do those. You can't spend 24/7 in virtual reality or do those online, you still need to eat and your daily necessities.
12:20 old man thinking, nobody play games to do all those.. they play game to get away from "real-life" and do stuff they can't do online.
You're gonna argue like farming games or simulator games. They're an escape of reality, you don't necessity break a sweat planting fruits and vegetables. You're chasing instant gratifications by completing achievements etc and not worrying about anything.
Old heads always got these thinking especially in the 90s 00s where they say gaming is bad, gaming creates violence etc. Now they're thinking the future is gonna be "that"?
Has this dude even play any video game or he's just name dropping Rust and that his kids plays Roblox.
Let's say the top few games on Steam, CS and Dota 2.. It's not even possible to "play" that irl,
Sprinting from spawn to Site A would probably made 90% of gamers breathless. Don't even get me started on Dota 2.
Also there's a huge huge rise in single-player games because a ton of people doesn't wanna deal with the toxicity online.
Plus not having to compete with countries where people grind like crazy sweatshops and sell in-game currencies. (Because it pays better than their basic wage due to currency)
Most gamers aren't really interested in "real-life" activities, "cults" and what not activities? They'll probably just ignore and "go next".
NFT/Metaverse etc aren't even what make games good, people been playing them for decades before it was a thing. NFT/Metaverse is what's killing games infact.
HE feels more like THE "cult"-type of person and those motivational speaker/presenter to start random movements.
Dude probably never play any game in his life, playing 2-3 minutes of super mario doesn't make you a "gamer". He doesn't even seem to understand the aspect of why people ENJOY playing game.
Mr. "Futurist" here trying to give all the "Vegan-Cyclist-Feminism" a run for their money.
Non-gamer talking about gaming? Whats next? Non-health practitioner?
The only useful/postive thing from this 14minutes video (I wish I could get it back).. is to play games with your kids.
Quality of TED talks really tanking. This is too much of a reach.
I didn't know that Gaming was ever a force for bad?
Since we human are still animal , there are pulse to pursue connections and believes -- especially when u only can get struggle and hopeless from reality, like u said - the real world sucks . What I see - as a gamer deeply dived into internet for so many years …. I am sure most gamer knows what they are doing and thinking of ,and they know why and how . Games are design to make ppl thinking and solving “Quest” ,so there are no cult in game , just dreamers .The real cult are on tik tok or some channel…. those which only receive with no reason or why … people follow without critical thinkings and questions , that’s real brain wash and where cult grows.
This is a real TED talk?
So he was talking about "using the gaming community for the good in the world" while advocating NFTs and being proud about his son dealing with them? I'm a little sad, that they didn't boo him right of the stage at that point. Most of the time I enjoy Ted talks even when they differ from my personal opinion, because they tend to be at least informative and based on real facts. This one is just a bunch of personal opinions and crooked statistics bound together by someone who clearly is far from being an expert in his field and frankly speaking seems to know very little about the gaming industry or community. Don't know why Ted is bothering us with a video like that. Also, if your kids don't want to do anything else anymore than buying microtransactions in games and using it to escape reality 24/7 (unlike just having fun with it for some portion of the day or once in a while) that's not "the world changing", it's your questionable parenting.
Friendly greetings from someone who actually worked in the gaming industry recently and thinks that most of what he says is a bunch of baloney.
I’m actually the friend of this guys son, and I’m sad to admit that this is true. My friend does invest in nfts and he doesn’t see what’s wrong about it. When I ask him the cliche ‘why not just screenshot it’ he just laughs and says something about how I don’t know what I’m talking about. While he is right, he also doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Nfts are so pointless and they have their own crypto currency which de legitimises the actual concept even more. I don’t think he understand that either
Understands*
I agree!!! My daughter does spend way too much time on her iPad, but most of that time is used creating characters and artwork. My older daughter just plays games to keep up contact with her friends and she is also an amazing artist who COULD be making money off of her artwork, but she hasn't decided that's what she wants to do yet. It all depends on how we use the metaverse and whether it is being used as a crutch or to inspire creativity, imagination, and problem-solving.
@Erebus At least you tried! Unfortunately some people just don't want to listen to logical arguments and there's not much we can do about that. But maybe he'll change his mind in the future nonetheless.
@Cherish Masters-Pedraza Sounds like you have two wonderfully talented daughters, good job on supporting them and their art! :)
"games would be good if they stops being entertainment and begin to be a tool for the companies explore users as workers"
We should worry about Netflix more
A non gamer talking about gaming🤦
How do you know
@@aakarmamtora3470 he’s delusional saying gaming will cause wars to happen and I’m sorry Roblox doesn’t have a game to run over blm protesters
I can't help but be floored by this talk. The speaker opens by dismissing the old argument that violence is connected to video games and then almost immediately starts connecting games and their communities to radical ideologies and the current and future cause, or at least facilitator, of social unrest and disintegration. He then continues on with a call to action to figure out how to address "game cults" and all their unsavory behaviors. Policy makers, game makers, and gamers should all get together to solve this problem - This smells of the age-old desire to control and regulate how a growing and influential medium is consumed and/or used. Bad people use telephones to commit crimes - better do something about those phones, eh... All of the symptoms that he enumerates are symptoms of deeper and more complex problems. It's really disappointing to see a seemingly educated person approach the real societal challenges we face today in such a reductionist fashion. Maybe ask the question "what makes a person want to..." and working to solve that problem. I have been gaming my whole life, and I have and will always game with my sons. Sure there are toxic gamers out there, but that's hardly unique to games (used the internet much?!?). When I saw the title of this TED Talk, I was quite optimistic about it, as I have seen so many examples of the good that comes from playing games. However, he did not touch on any of them, and instead only focused on the negative potential of online communities, specifically those in gaming. In the end, his message was that gaming CAN be a force for good, but if we don't do anything, it'll likely become the breading ground for all that is bad in the world. Yup, real positive message. Make sure you keep your kids away from games until we figure this out or they might become radical, delusional, evil-doers... Ugh...
The world needs gamer digital artists with morals and noble values too.
Can't imagine why your kids think the world is going to end. Top parenting
Video games are already a force for good. I don’t wanna hear nothing he gotta say!
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@@user-hh2is9kg9j hypocrite
Great Speaker!! 1st half fascinating…..then quickly degraded into Politics and Religion. 2 Realms of Private contemplation, Not to be used for Weaponized Propaganda.
I agree. He lost me a bit there with where he was going towards the end. He seems to firmly believe in NFTs and focuses a bit much on the radicalization aspect of online communities. Which leads to him (imo) being a bit off the mark on both the negative and positive fronts of gaming as a whole.
Thanks for the heads up
playing games gives way to vicarious release of stress and negative impulse which may be prone to impulsive actions i.e. crimes etc. So what the games are really doing is kinda preventing major and minor crimes.
These types of people are going to ruin gaming for all of us. I already stopped gaming because I know at the end it’s all gonna become a business shithole where there is no fun to have. Spend your time on games you actually enjoy people and just go to school.
He sounds like he's trying to sell me an Apple Watch
Gaming has a ton of benefits. It cured my depression
That a lie and you know it
This guy went to a "Troll video-game forum" and took everything there as face value.
Remember that executives are not your friends, and this guy is an executive. NFTs and the Metaverse are incredibly anti-consumer, and are not what the majority of the gaming community want in their games. The stuff about the "Gaming cults" is also not based in any sort of research, and this guy has no evidence for it. All of the "cult games" that he showed are not widespread games by any means, and I would be surprised if the amount of people that had played them were in the double digits. He's largely fearmongering in order to try and encourage the adoption of anti-consumer practices and to encourage the politicization of games. It's honestly really unethical and I can't believe that TED allowed this guy to speak on games like this when he clearly has no experience or actual interest in games or the gaming community.
Any activity that attracts huge groups of people can be used to educate, manipulate, oppress, slander, or all four. Just look at people obsessed with football teams, or cosplayers obsessed with fantasy characters or fictional stories. Merchandise can be sold to those naive fools, too.
Education is key. Reflection is required. Intelligence needs to be cultivated.
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I’m not a fool for supporting sports teams
The problem is that the market decides! And if im not mistaken almost all of the top AAA titles played by young adults up are PvP titles. And have you experienced the toxic nature of those online spaces? There is somthing about the competitiveness and anonimity that just seems to bring out the worst in humans! And even the 'friendships' you make can be extremely fickle!
Young adult here (25yo). 99.9% of the games I play are singleplayer. On the very rare occasion I play a multiplayer game, it's absolutely not PvP; it's cooperative.
Thanks
Games can educate as well
Seems he is so removed from reality, he tries to conform everything into his political or social view rather than ascertaining gamers or even humanity as a whole don't fit his narrative at all.
Very little of what he stated in the video has any facts let alone logic to back it up and is mostly his opinion or his skewed view. Repugnant. A waste of time for anyone watching this video..
The only statement he makes of any value is near the end of the video. To play games with your kids to be more involved with them. That is it. Don't bother wasting 13 minutes of your life on this garbage.
Didn't understand why they linked Video Games to Violence in the first place.
Love gaming since young just cannot afford spending money on gaming
I miss the time when TED Talks had standards
Grandeeeee el patron
cant wait for my hard earned skills of gaming will finally come to peak, when they need the top gamers to use drones or robots to fight in wars and not use human lives, just like star wars. One day people, one day.
Sources: trust me bro
Getting strong vibes of Justin Timberlake from The Social Network
Jack Thompson, is that you?
Majority of gamers won't engage with NFT and metaverse, just look at the daily active player count...
Nobody is ever going to use a video game to "pray".
Oh neat - another metaverse commercial ...
Wait a second, I don't care about video games, what's this about leap of faith and hash brownies
u know we as gamers do take breaks from games and watch shows and movies as well listening to our favorite bands or go out and touch grass. I also don't advocate in any ideas as a competition of entertainment cause will be a bad representation of capitalisms. there have been game made from inspirations. such as Metal Gear is a political theme but its a anti-war game of dealing with nuclear weapons and turning humans into soldiers to die. Legend of Zelda and Pokemon is a expression of the creators child hood. Legend of Zelda Majoras Mask would give us a sense of dread since of course the creator was dealing with such fear in japan when dealing with North Korea always doing those fcking missle test that nearly hit or flew over them
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10:20
its true, ive played farmville once in my life and now i want to overthrow the establishment media and commit [TOS VIOLATION]s
this is an embarrassment of a TED talk overall and i have lost quite a lot of respect for the organization for hosting this
The comment section is full of gamers trying to argue this man isn't correct, wilfully ignoring youth radicalism online, through games and social media. Try not to take the few comments on gaming so personally, this is a fantastic view into online radicalisation. Congratulations if none of your friends ever got into that spiral.
4:44 - 4:48 It's so funny
Despise people just go with the flow, never taking a stop to think what I'm doing. "First you are a player, then you are a fan, then you are in the clan, then you are invading a Capitol."
If there were calculus games people might actually start liking math.
Bravo!
Unfortunatly, as a game designer, I could tale that engagement could also be named retention. And with like you say in 4:45, a feeling that is superficial when fulfilling our basic needs motivating the player to stay in the game, which once returned to real life does not necessarily improve the problem. Game as a service often provokes this effect. But I wish it could be like that if our system development rather than on our psychological flaws to make us spend more. Just look at how the monetization system works.
saddest part about this: there are people out there who think this crazy talk makes any sense.
zhaoshang hao zhongo xianzai wo you bing chilling! good video
nvm
Sorry, you could have just ask Eric Cartman. Sorry again, but I could not resist. I've been wanting to conduct my own survey, as I'm retired and really have no one to call - at least not from the road. But, how many people around you are using their cell phones in their cars when you observe them? Look around when you are at a stoplight or sign. I bet it's a large percentage. I see it every day, and it's got to be at least 50%. I'm in a large city now, for hopefully not too long, and it's ridiculous. To me this ties in, because adults are addicted to tech and on-demand entertainment as much as the kids.* one more thing - thanks for this video *
"Thriving crypto economies" - oh FFS, is this just another Crypto bro trying to shill his stuff?
No one wants your virtual money. Stop trying to make it happen. It's not going to happen.
So...is he advocating for the positive brainwashing of people through video games? And citing a dude that drugged and tricked his followers as a sign it could work?
Gaming is the best form of entertainment 💥
I use to play cod mobile in my free time
he is a futurist - not a here and now guy. Shady
well said sir.
This guy is doing a pretty bad job at being a "futurist and specialist in public policy, strategy and emerging technologies."
Dude is only 44 and he already can't keep up with the world.
This man is in a cult and doesn't even know it.
Gamers rise up.
Why isn't there more of a problem with social media which is clearly doing harm to society and is being used by billions of people?
"Scholars believe this is a myth" but I'm going to keep talking about it as if it's real to support my personal opinion 🤡 Yeah, that was when I tuned out.
so they just let anyone on this show without vetoing them huh?
Very interesting
well dang yes i agree
How about some quality control on your content, TED?
i think hes confused about games... and the internet. radicals have and will always exist. the internet just allows them to connect more easily
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Nice video 📹 👍
jumped off a building .. didnt respawn...
Bro, a 600sqft apt. costs $1000+. Gen Z can't afford a box, and you're bringing up the meta-verse?
The elites are afraid
This isn't science, it's just his opinion. That's ok. I have another opinion.
Specialy what he said on 10:12, what a load of BS.
That part about NFTs didn’t age well
This dude’s main source is his 10 year old child…
How is a guy that promotes what is essentially gambling to his own kid credible?
Algorithm should enable our existences, custom tools.
UA-cam premium provide no algorithmic customization...
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I would look for what scientific data would say and artificial intelligence would say..
How about NOOOOOOooooo
the problem is capitalsm! this video makes it very very clear!
I think he's putting a lot of stock in crypto BS. He lost me at "NFTs and web 3 will hopefully..."
9:44 don't question it eat your soy eat your bugs eat your soy eat your bugs💀
Great to see some work on the benefits of a gaming instead of it constantly being blamed as a driver in extremism and violence by the like of RAN and the U.N.
Gme - The single most, greatest movement the world has ever seen playing out in real time. Gaming is bigger than movies and sports combined.... Buy, Hold, DRS..... Gamestopped
This talk was SO bad.
Use to be a Ted Talk junkie, haven’t watched one in years. Glad they finally fixed the ear piercing intro video. Man it was wild that they had that insane intro for so many years. Phew…might watch more now.
I think this era has had the greatest impact on our minds. I mean we see its effects everywhere, the way little kids are so friendly when young, and the moment they start playing violent games really makes them very aggressive, like exaggerating small things in a negative way. Such behaviors really affect humanity globally. All I think is that there is going to be a very big collapse right at the start of 2030. We need to do research and save as many as possible because by 2030 95% of people will become metally ill.
Nice sarcasm.
@@zenfirebird5360 Well, this isn't actually sarcasm. What I write is based on research.
@@m.ibrahimvip8988 Well good news, researcher already checked out that theory- Turns out that video game doesn't cause violence. This kind fellow in the video brought it up.
Now if we can research into the mind of idiots who waste milk by spilling them in super markets and people who try to sabotage painting such as the girl with the pearl earring or the sunflower painting. My guess is trying to be popular on social media.
On a side note I'm betting this video was made to advertise to people fleeing twitter and due to Facebook's falling stocks and the Meta failing at the moment. Mastadon is a site similar to twitter and doesn't has the BS of META.
@@zenfirebird5360 well not true. Video games have many side effects.
His openings statement was untrue
Giselle was convicted for underage trafficking without ONE person she trafficking to????????????
Games should inspire to good.
Was convinced this was a TEDx video until I glanced up here. Lost a lot of respect for TED.
Next thing you know they'll be talking about how "hatred of minorities is good, actually." :|
This is embarrassing. Zero science or thought behind it other than surface level inspection and begging the question
Where is Rocket League bruh
He wouldn’t last 2 mins in a cod lobby
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