How Far Have We Come? Black Teens vs Grandparents | Middle Ground
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CHAPTERS
0:00 Introduction
3:18 My generation has had it harder than the other side
6:58 Protests should be peaceful
12:04 I have dated people of another race
14:29 Sometimes, I act “white”
18:12 I have trauma
23:05 Living in the United States is a privilege
26:05 Black people are resilient
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"YOU are the leaders"
Why is no one talking about what a great response this was?
That was a brilliant point. But they are, REALLY young. And in this day and age the credentials that people ask for are getting higher and higher. Economic power, and by extension social power, is robbed from the youth, especially Black youth.
It really was! ✨
honestly though it made me think a lot about it
Also let us mention that his valid point of the leaders of the 60s-70s were killed. Coupled with mass incarceration and murder, the leaders of the older generation were weeded out to create a massive loss in leaders in the black community. It is REALLY hard to start/continue a movement when your predecessors don't exist to give advice and leadership. You have to start from scratch again.
The guy was saying there are no current civil rights leaders compared to the grandparent generation and that's kinda true. Who of the current generation is comparable to Martin Luther King Jr or Malcolm X?
Modern civil rights movements are more nebulous. That's not a bad thing per se, but I get what the guy meant in that there are no similar leaders to follow today.
"my whole world was not about getting a high school diploma, i just wanted to get home every night" damn...
Agreed. And before someone comes in here saying that lot's of people feel that way, the REASON for dealing with situations like that are different.
@@hzjohnson1632 yeah the gang and drug abuse era was bad. I thank god 🙏🏾 I was born after it... even though we know it's still being done today.
@@hzjohnson1632 i actually think that's a myopic view of things.
If ALL you can see are the drug dealers and not the ways that POLITICS FAIL COMMUNITIES WHICH LEADS TO PEOPLE NEEDING TO SELL DRUGS TO MAKE MONEY, you'll NEVER understand why the drug dealers are out there in the first place
People have no understanding of how bad that time was. We’re much better off now, but even the openly racist decades before that had way less violence.
The crips was gang violence, what does that have to do about institutional racism of the US? That is more to do with a violent mob group gaining power in a community, just like the whiskey mobs of the NE with Capone.
Cynthia-" It's all about the money, hurt them in the wallet."
I strongly agree. people can protest, kicking and screaming till their heart is content, but it won't change anything. unless they stop buying their name brands, giving them views, and supporting their social media outlets. Since everything is about looks and value, They will always put money in their wallets.
I get what you are saying but the way sad but true our world works a lot of these people are older..the younger gen is learning and it’s becoming a trend to be successful and motivated, but..that’s just going to resegregate America and also end of the day high up that ladder is Predominately (I’m not racist my kids mixed) but the majority that controls the overall money is white and old….
It was how I reprimanded my staff. I docked hours.
True, at the end of the day we vote with our dollars
Agreed. Far more innocent ppl are hurt by riots than those they riot against.
Name one government leader hurt or affected by the protests.
This is so true!!!!!! Violence makes it worse honestly
Skipp was so understanding and compassionate to the teens. The others were certainly listening but he seemed to go out of his way to encourage them and lift them up. It's truly nice to see older people reaching out this way.
Yeah it really inspired me to become a leader
Probably cuz he has 12 kids and as he said, he changed his parenting views later on
I refuse to believe Beverly is 70 years old. She looks like she's 50!!
Black don't crack😆
It's cuz she's black
Math Boss lol u beat me to it
Literally the first thing I said when I saw her!
Nah she looks 60
I literally hate the “you act white” or “you’re too white to be a black girl” “you talk so white” it’s SO ANNOYING!!! Like what tf do you mean!? Is there a certain way I have to act because I’m black!? I’ve even heard my parents say “you talk so white” when they don’t even talk “black” themselves, I’ve had my friends say it to me, it’s hella annoying. And just because I talk a certain why doesn’t mean I’m trying to be any less black or be something else, I’m proud to be black.
Edit: I am in no way trying to put white people down or say that they’re bad or that I hate them, not at all! I am simply sharing my experience, and there’s nothing wrong with loving who you are, no matter your race.
It’s because most Black people see us as a monolith, we have to speak like them, think like them, act like them, dress like them and so forth. It’s so annoying
@@jacobi552 exactlyyyy! It is! And we aren’t monolithic, we aren’t all the same and people need to realize that. By not acting the cookie cutter black doesn’t mean we’re trying to be any less black.
@@bonitanzinga5167 Spot on with that one girl. People needa let us be ourselves 🤦🏽♂️
@@jacobi552 exactly, people need to just let us be😭🤚🏾
@@bonitanzinga5167 Facts
Found it funny how only the teens clapped when she said she is turning 70🤣 such a Gen Z thing!
Lmaoooo ngl its a us thing
well, she said her birthday is tomorrow (after the day the video was recorded)
Im Gen X.
Uhm....i dont get it? I would hv clapped as well?
They clapped to celebrate her birthday... tf we cant do that now?
@@ochrechapSame here ❤
I love Cynthia. The way she mentions losing her son and husband. And about keeping self control. Like golly, her strength is inspirational. Pray for her family.
I got the chills when she said that
I saw it a little different. I saw a black woman displaying so much “strength” that she wouldn’t sit with the rest when asked if she had trauma, even though her tears were from her trauma. Reminded me of the matriarchs in my family who’s default was strength because for them at that time it had to be.
@@cambriaplusmodel I see what you’re saying but I think she’s honestly at peace with what has happened, yeah she might cry and be upset for a while but healing is when you can openly speak about something like this and she has reached acceptance
She said she had to keep it cool. That was LITERALLY why we have the term "cool" because black folks HAD TO keep it COOL under the most trying circumstances.
Struggling should never turn into a "Who has it worse" contest.
Yes
its Just a program bro relax
@@thiagomartins3508 no one's mad. I'm just stating the truth. You relax
Tell me about it
So we shouldn't acknowledged who is suffering more, where do we go with that.
Can we all agree that Cynthia looks good for 74. Black don't crack.
Black on crack
Yes!! I’m glad someone said it. They called Beverly beautiful I was waiting on her compliment
she looks like most 74 year olds do, she still look good tho
Cynthia looks good. Period.
@@eri6349 she’s got way less wrinkles than most people over 70
I love the elders they chose. So level-headed and intelligent.
Ms. Cynthia is a phenomenal woman. I'm a Black Gen Z and I appreciate both sides of this conversation. Great way to bridge the generational gap.
“The leaders are here, I don’t think you recognize them because they’re sitting next to you”
hits different ✨
Leaders? More like freeloaders and desperate sympathy seekers! 😂😂😂😂
Also awesome quote
There's always a teacher and student looking for guidance ...
@@Mychannel-gr1fn these kids were ignoring the lessons tho
@@melinda537 huh?
I’m waiting for African American vs Black British, I think it would be such an interesting conversation
I’d watch that 🙋🏾♀️
This
@C D Why?
@@BN-nf5dn I'm a black British and I have no problem with African Americans if that what your implying
more like Black Americans vs Black British bc not all black people in America are African
This is definitely the best middle ground. Everyone is so well spoken and calm. It’s so refreshing, especially when so many people on this just yell at each other.
I feel like Cynthia is that grandma that many of us that didn't get to know our grandparents, really needed and still need today.
Most grandparents are like her
Cynthia made the room silent when she brought up the system not letting go of you once it knows you. Such wisdom.
She’s brilliant. The person weapon against racist whites.
She's what a LOT of black youth NEED to hear today.
Damn, this woman the way she articulates her word, truly a wise woman
That's just common sense you get caught doing a crime you're most likely gonna face some type of punishment.
I get what she was saying, at the same time she is wrong. MLK was arrested. Malcolm X arrested. Fred Hampton Arrested. All the Black leaders who have made and strove for true change have been arrested.
It is the response of the opposition.
black africans vs black americans would be so interesting to see.
Yes good idea
yesss!!!!!!
@xo Lynn NOOO😭
Why vs. that’s starting from a combative position. Why not and?
Which Africans tho? There are too many african countries and they are all different
dang that last bit with Skip really touched me. Him thanking them and saying he was humbled to be in their presence…wow! ❤
This episode is just so powerful.
The greatest response is that of “ your are the leaders”
You felt that too eh
It definitely hit like blammm💥
he speaks volume!
It stuck with me
That was deep
I'm waiting for Africans vs African Americans, as a South African I'm ready to be a part of it. There's a lot we need to discuss you guys
Agreed
Bingo
I'm with you on that one. That would definitely be an interesting conversation between African Americans and REAL African Americans.
Don’t blame us we were taken long ago and been through years of indoctrination. We all share the same blood but we have totally similar yet different mindsets. I can’t sit here and act like Africa is all secure either tho. The colonizers made there way everywhere, they completely drain Africa of its resources and honestly that hurts more than the slavery they put us through. To still be violating us as a race.
yes please i agree
It makes me sad that cynthia responded "no" initially to the "i have trauma" question... then goes on to say that she's suffered such horrible loss but "had to stay strong" because "it's all about survival" ..... there's so much unpacked trauma weighing down on her soul and it's so sad that even at 74 she still feels the need to "stay strong" by not allowing herself to process that trauma.
Edit: also - I think her point about "you dont want to get into the man's system or it'll chase you for the rest of your life" is both true and a very common scare tactic to keep POC quiet.
Is there a single person in this world that hasn't suffered? How com Jews, who experienced far worse trauma and far more recently, are the most developed country in their region and you never hear them victimized themselves?
@@Bolognabeef Please don't compare trauma. What Jewish people went through is wholly different from the experiences of black people. Like imagine being a captive and then being released into a system that is controlled by your captors. Black people don't want to be victims but this system won't let us get away from the trauma we experienced as a people. Our trauma is generational and ongoing and we didn't get the privilege of being given a country of our own to develop.
@@MilkshakeCowboy or get a word like antisemitism to protect you from everything
@@BolognabeefLiterally nothing in this video or comment has to do with Jewishh ppl. We are talking about black ppl rn. Take this to a video that is speaking on that. Also black ppl cannot hide behind anything. We are obviously black and are the community that’s being held down systematically way more than any community today which is why we don’t have much power. Educate yourself before speaking on black ppl when you’ve never walked a day in our shoes weirdo
@Shara B like... Jews went through a near extinction of their group. There is hardly a way to even relate to that. They weren't only oppressed like you, where they were nearly exterminated entirely.
That being said, I agree with OP. She has gone through a trauma, but it's common to see people of that generation not refer to themselves as 'traumatized'. Their was a much larger stigma around trauma and mental health.
Cynthia reminds me of my math teacher. She’s simultaneously the nicest and the most intimidating person I’ve ever met lol
Those are the people who always receive the most respect
Can you PLEASE do Africans vs African Americans? We’ve been asking for years now. 😩😭🥺
YESSS please
I asked too
Or simply diasporian vs Americans
Why do you lot want this?
What is supposed to be discussed exactly?
Cynthia is wise, warm, and intelligent. What a special soul. She's a truly beautiful woman.
She is strong! Strong and beautiful. Her family is indeed very lucky to have her.
She's a national treasure
Defetnly agreed cynthia knows she is talking about.
I truly admire the fact that she NEVER disregard any of the other opinions :)
i'm calling it rn before it happens-- someone is gonna say *simp*
Of all the middle ground I have watched ,I have never liked any conversation than this ,it was calm and so much wisdom was in it . I thank the team for putting up this .so educational.
I love Cynthia omg
Can we get a whole hour of Cynthia talking about her life. She is fascinating and seen amazing things from around the world but also experienced the worst things with the lost of her family. She has experience travel and trauma to back everything up.
I would watch it 100%
I would watch it 100%
She seems so wise. She seems like she would make you think hard about any topic
@@carbonfibercarpet4655 I felt like her views were pretty myopic.......typical of Black people her generation
@@dragonfly12 why do you say that
Petition for Jubilee to make a popular kid vs quiet kid episode
I’d be in the quiet kid place
quiet kids wouldnt be as active in the discussion. And if they were then they weren't truly quiet kids. Sure they could be unpopular but not quiet.
@@John9tv Not really.., they might be the quiet kids but that doesnt mean they dont have anything to say in their minds. And they could've been changed throughout the years. I was the quiet kid but Ive always had so many things in my mind but just didnt really have a chance to talk abt it and Ive changed a lot since then.
*Quiet kid gets an opportunity to take revenge on the popular kid*
It will ends in bullets
This was amazing!Both sides are incredibly valuable and need to give each other their flowers regularly!
I loved the video! The intimacy and generational perspective builds a lot of empathy.
When the lady talked about hurting them with money it’s so true the government is never gonna pay attention until the money goes down that’s all they think about is money not people
Very true
That's why the civil rights in a way hurt the black community where before the civil rights theres black own stores that would only serve blacks and they couldn't compete with bigger box chains stores because of secregarion so there was a black economy and wealth made by blacks was spent in the black community they dint really need the whites that all ended after the civil rights movement because black owned businesses had to compete with big companies and that is basically impossible all that happen is black people wealth and ownership was being taken away from them
What money, you meen the taxes that you all paid. Well, that's a really good idea, to burn the money that belongs to you and everybody else in the community 🙃
No not true. These businesses have insurance that put the cost on everyone else. You'd basically just be attacking random people who may have no issues witg black people, but may develop them after being attacked. Any "support" recieved from corporations now is totally artificial- just another way to swindle your money from you.
"Hurting them with money"
My friend losing a shop he had worked so hard to finally get in business and losing it to a protest: 😭
wow they weren’t lying when they said “black don’t crack” how do they look so young!!!!
I agree black is beautiful 😍
melanin
ehhhhhhhhh
I'm white, and my 65 year old grandad is looking almost as old as my 45 year old dad. Surprisingly he has some very thick hair for an age where your hair should be thinning for some.
@@tired7495 Who are you to dictate where he can't post or give his thoughts?
Somehow I missed this one! And as Gen X, I love to see my parents and my kids generations come together and speak respectfully. It's amazing to see how much they truly listened to each other. I literally cried. This was awesome to see.
As a fellow Gen X’er, do you ever wonder why Gen X is rarely ever addressed? It always he generations before and after us. I wonder why…
@@liqwidmediaworkztv because we're typically ducked off somewhere minding our business. But when we ARE directly addressed...WE ARE RUTHLESS!!!😂😂😂 Speaking for myself, I cut no corners and tell you exactly what I think and how I feel. Most times people who aren't from GenX think it's rude, but a fellow GenX'er would probably fall out laughing at you it. We don't bother anyone, and they don't want smoke with us!😂😂😂
I cannot tell you how much I love, appreciate and respect these conversations. It brings so much awareness and thought to people watching even from other countries.
When Cynthia got emotional after saying she is a strong black woman, my heart broke a little
She sure is
It's a played out stereotype that has lead to medical apartheid (which, unironically, is also the title of a great book), mental health biases, discrimination, and misdiagnoses, police manhandling women, and men of all races viewing black women are less feminine and deserving of little to no respect -- who can go through life while simultaneously carrying the weight of the world on their shoulders alone, etc.. So no, the phrase needs to die with that generation.
@@chicagoliightsx thank you! That “strong black woman” stereotype is not a compliment, it’s a statement that is used to dismiss the mistreatment and strip black women away from their femininity.
Black dont crack shes 70 and still BEAUTIFUL
@@chicagoliightsx Totally agree. Very well said
You can't control everything but you can control how you react
Cynthia.
I see a strong woman
Study Stoicism if you wanna learn more about it, that philosophy basically teaches exactly what Cynthia says.
She knows how emotional the black community or any minority groups can get and it’s important to keep our composure.
@@magicmakerify white ppl can be as emotional they want and gets seen as human we do it and it’s wrong. plz let go of the standard that i have to be better for my people cs i already got a burden to cary🤦🏽♀️
@@destinycardoso4820 Those emotional white people generally don't make it far, and neither will you. No one cares about your feelings, you're an adult and you're expected to act like one
Big up to Stoicism
What a wonderful time I had watching this episode! So much pain and suffering but also wisdom and love were displayed! Seeing the older generation talking about the tough life in the 60s and the younger talking about life in this social media world was captivating. I genuinely think that these intergenerational conversations were commonplace before. But nowadays, people have lost touch with one another. This is the form of discussion we should be seeing on TV. It just makes sense.
This was an absolutely wholesome and sophisticated discussion. I expected nothing more than this. All these beautiful individuals represented their community exceptionally well. The message was loud and clear for all of us in the back. Great admiration for all of you! Thank you. 🤩
"I feel like I'm in a domestic violence relationship with.. society".. wow
right. Perfect way to put it.
Reading this made me chuckle
@@putent9623 why
I'm black and it hurts more when it's true....
Yes, the domestic violence analogy is very fitting. Black soldiers returning from the World Wars, thinking surely I haved proved myself to be a worthy American, a patriot, only to return to a country that still abuses them, just as a domestic abuse victim can't do anything to prove themselves worthy of being treated with love.
I dont like the idea of 'who has it harder'. Every generation has its own struggles. *Let's just recognise them without making a competition out of it*
no lets start a race war. (and this is coming from a black 17 year old.)
You can NOT compare what the older generation has gone through
and this is coming from a black 17 year old
This should be the top comment
@@kalhie1121 yup
Ofc white people have it SO hard 😂🤣
I loved this episode. I had agree with everyone and I had loved how everyone listened and respected each other’s views. This definitely made me very honored and proud to be a young black women living in todays society.❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
This made my evening!!! I would love to watch more of this, I miss talking to my Nana who passed at the age of 86. She used to tell her stories and give the best advice that I just know I will never get to hear again but will love with me and my children for the rest of our lives 🙏🏾❤️🇬🇧
I can't believe Cynthia is 74. She looks so much younger.
@@sees9267 I thought it was just me 😭
@Tyler B #2 fr
She seems 74 i don't know what you mean
@@sees9267 ??? how is he hating
@Tyler B #2 idk how ur hating mate
Cynthia was the highlight of this video. Her bluntness make her real by telling it how it is and no sugar coating. RESPECT
respect.
I love all the discussion episodes of this channel very much, Jubilee has done so well. This is one of my favorites too because the more years have passed and the older i have gotten (currently 29) i have increasingly become more and more interested in understanding the depths of African American culture and their history. I like to think I've always had an aptitude for cultural understanding because i have always absolutely loved learning about cultures from different groups from all over the world, but even though i was born and raised in the U.S. African American culture has always felt like a mysterious enigma for me and one that was hard to "crack" so to speak. Considering the fact that I am not black and of course by extension was not raised in q black household, I've always been very curious to know what things are taught and told to children behind closed doors just about life and society in general. This episode gave a lot insight to all of that, and because of that I'm very grateful that we have this type of channel that allows for these kind of dialogues to happen.
This was incredibly insightful thank you
Can Cynthia have her own series? She is so wise and calming when she speaks, every race could benefit from her lived experiences and wisdom
I disagreed with a lot of her opinions; so I’d pass on her show. I’d watch a show with those teens though
@@tj5087 Same
Facts. I’m loving Cynthia’s strength and spirit.
@@tj5087 I don’t think a great conversation comes from watching someone you agree with, I think it comes from being able learn from the one who’s talking. No slight to the kids, but their opinions can be found by any vocal advocate on social media. I’d much rather have the opportunity to learn from an intelligent women who has decades of world experience than kids who’s beliefs will change drastically over the next decade
@@uncleiroh4650 This right here, civil discourse is the backbone of society, we can agree to disagree and still be friends, Ive seen many in this era cut off friends and even family because of politics and beliefs, that desperately needs to change.
"you can't control everything, but you can control how you react to it, and you have got to get yourself under control or you will lose yourself" - Cynthia
@@ts8404 example?
@@ts8404 if you learn to you can always control how you react
@@ts8404 if something “surprised” me that made me mad, yeah you can control ur anger
Time stamp?
20:51
This may be one of the best videos on UA-cam that's I've ever seen. Blessings to all six of them.
Loved Skipp so much in this conversation. Seems like such a kind, wholesome person.
Cynthia has got to be the wisest person I've ever seen hands down.
respect.
every one loves her
She’s the oldest too
Passive
I thought you wrote “weirdest” (dyslexia!) and was like why??? 😂
Cynthia talking about her family really got to me she just exudes strength and wisdom
agreed. she has strength and she has a stoic mentality but she was hurt before and it showed in that moment.
Excellent choice of individuals. Loved this one!! ❤️
I truly hope to see Devin in some form of government when he is older. He is so well-spoken and passionate and the way he speaks to everyone, he can truly bridge gaps and he just seems like an amazing kid.
Except he doesn't know the actual facts on police shootings.
@@Killswitch1411 explain
I feel the exact same. If he learns to control that passion and identify when to let his emotions guide him and when/how to overpower his emotions and turn on logic, he will be a very influential and powerful force.
Emotionally driven politicians ruin countries. Get someone that is level headed and doesn't take everything personally. He seems like the person to legislate police defunding and cry when the crime goes up.
Naaa, found it hard to stand hearing the young boy talk.
Ion care what nobody say Alex’s Afro is dope
@Calvin Ilkay yeah, it does
Alex is Gorgeous
I don't get this comment. Are we not supposed to like it? Have people been saying something about it?
she's beautiful and that afro suits her 😍
@@theobehardien2551 ❌🧢
Jubilee, I love y'all, but Skipp is right. PLEASE get some actual chairs to replace these stools you make people sit on. I'm not even that old (31) and I'm in pretty good shape, and even MY back hurts when I sit on a stool for an extended period of time. Surely y'all can afford to buy six chairs.
i agree. theyll be $10 at the least.
Keep the stools. They subconsciously encourage more attentive and active conversation which is a feature of the show
Omg I'm saying
I agree! I have had a herniated disc for 8 months & was born with scoliosis. These things aren't too noticable right away, but I know those stools would be killing me. I'm only 20 btw. Love y'all, but it's important to realize how uncomfortable some ppl are & how high pain tolerances are of people who live with chronic pain.
Yes! I’d rather stand than use one of those stools. The teenagers are leaning forward, the older folks look visually uncomfortable, at least stools with back support.
This has been one of my favorite episodes, such a great and insightful conversation
I always come back to this episode. Such educated, empathetic and excellent human beings.
"I wanna talk abt ptsd, not post traumatic, but present" that was a powerful line to me, it's happening now, so let's talk about it and fix it.
Most people in America today have no conception of what trauma or PTSD actually is. You’ll probably read this and say “you have no idea what other people have been through” but it’s definitely an insult to people in combat and first responders to say that you have PTSD from society or something
PTSD doesn’t only stem from being in the military, so I hope that’s not what you are trying to suggest. If you look at the definition there is no mention of military. “Traumatic experiences” doesn’t only mean having to shoot someone during a military service.
@@jimmy8213
That's your interpretation. It is possible to obtain PTSD outside of the military. You can gain it from any significant stressful event in your life. The stress itself will return after that event as a result of its trigger. You can interpret their PTSD or their claim of it as an insult but you don't get to invalidate their experiences.
@@BlackStar-hy1iy bro I just said not just the military. But yes I can say that PTSD isn’t just picked up from being in America. There are people outside of the military like I said 2 times. But they sure as hell aren’t people that get called “monkey” under UA-cam videos by trolls. That’s so messed up to equate the two
The DSM says it is impossible to get APT SD diagnosis without being there physically in the traumatic event Just because something upset you doesn't mean you have ptsd
“The leaders are here. I don’t think you recognize them because they’re right next to you.”
CHILLS
I loved that ❤
What leaders? Leading to what?
I mean but they aren’t really leading tho. Going to a protest doesn’t really mean much. Especially when there are a hundred different messages being put out. If ur not uniting people together taking charge, stepping up as a leader, and pushing out the clear concise message, ur not really a leader. Ur just another person in the crowd.
I really enjoy these videos! I really enjoyed hearing both sides - Cynthia was my favorite to listen to, very wise. It’s nice to see people talking and actually having conversations, listening to each other vs. just attacking each other (for the most part).
Wonderful wonderful video so great to see this video. Thank you very much for getting these individuals together.
I already felt chills when skippp said he sees leaders right in front of him then cynthias personal takes had me tearing up. She made valid points despite her having rebuttals
I would’ve liked to see a black millennials .. maybe someone in their early 30s on the panel... HONESTLY but this was a good decision . Black millennials have been trying soo hard to fight the system . And we get ignored so much
She sounded like she brainwashed to me. This segment proves how much her generation failed us
@@Unap0l0getic I actually agree. There were points that she made that came off like she was taught that and didn’t look into it further but I didn’t want to come at her lol
@@Unap0l0getic I agree. Their passivity held them back. Also not acknowledging that their leaders were there not just to lead, but to teach their peers to have the same strength. Too many people following weren't really willing to put in the work.
I love how Skipp apologized at the end and admitted that he had preconceived notions about the young people. This was a good video. I like when I watch these videos I will debate with myself if I agree or disagree with what is said.
the fact that I do this with almost all of their videos made me connect with you on a spiritual level lol
Wow this was so beautiful. So much respect and love between both sides all while bringing up eye opening questions and responses. I love this and am blessed to been able to listen
So incredibly moving.
When the older man says PTSD is Present Traumatic Stress Disorder and then says "I feel like I'm in a domestic abuse relationship with law enforcement, with society, with the government." What a powerful statement.
When Mr Skipp was explaining to them how they ARE the leaders, pointing out how young MLKjr and Malcom X were when they died...it brought tears to my eyes. He is explaining that with such passion and hope in his voice to such YOUNG people ❤️❤️❤️
Agreed, it was empowering when he said that🙏
Except when that leader is someone they don't like like Candace Owens, Brandon Tatum, Larry Elder... etc
@@Un1234l none of those people are leaders
@@campbelldynasty5632 what makes those people not leaders?
@@dathip those people say a lot of things that tear down the black community and other communities. In my opinion this is what makes them not leaders. Please pay attention to the in my opinion part.
This one made me tear up a bit! Great conversation!! ❤
I’ve watched quite a few of your Middle Ground videos and I must say this was a particular discussion that hit deep. It was beautiful to see and from my space be able to partake of the discussion that had taken place. Thank you and blessings to you all!
I feel so proud to be black, these are the conversation and types of people who make the black community amazing!
Exactly
It’s really a shame, I’m multiracial myself (dad was black, mom is white) I’m basically just grouped into being black, and seeing so many examples of black people ive met who just showcase the stereotypical “ghetto man”, that even I tend to forget to not let the bad apples in groups set the idea for the rest in my head (I mention this because my dad pasted away when I was young and now as a 19 year old in college I’ve never had the black community in my life, only my moms side)
Same
@@Daniel-pi5qd your brainwashed and your not proud to be black
I 💯 agree
Black Europeans and Black Americans would probably be very interesting. All respect to Cynthia, she is an amazing woman, but Europe is much different, than her distription. Europe absolutely has the highest income equality in the world.
but me living in a third world country wishes I was in the US
Why not Africans from Africa?
Europe is broad though, and it varies from country to country. But I do agree that inequality is not as pronounced in Europe, in general. The US have it really bad. They don't see it because they live in it but it is one of the worst place to be in the "Western World". I wish things get better because these people do deserve better.
@@sodortv from a black person either one is okay
@@sodortv say black people
don’t call non AAs african american 😂
This is one of the few times where both sides were extremely civil with the other side, and they both agreed on a lot of things
Black people are taught to respect our elders
I got a little emotional at the end because you could feel they all had a meaningful connection by the time they were done. Thanks to whoever created this❤
i had to look twice at your post, i was thinking i dont remember comenting on this video! avatar twins :)
@@sanpedro1337 OMG 😂
These kind of grandparents are high-key rare in the black community, wise & most importantly: They're LISTENING. Just....The knowledge they were spilling, I loved it. The real disconnect between generations is that the younger ones want to say & be loud with everything. The older generations aren't willing to listening to what is being said, instead they listen to respond and not absorb. That's where we usually lose the plot when talking with each other, as people born in different eras and raised in different worlds.
That isn't specific to the black community. A lot of the older people in my family, and family friends listen to repond, and sometimes they don't even listen, sometimes they listen to one sentence and cut you off by responding without letting you finish your full thought. I feel that's something that their generation had instilled into them, basically that if you're older you have more life experience and therefore have more knowledge, and if you're young you should be seen not heard and 'you do as i say not as i do'.
Especially Cynthia for me
Great Analysis!
Facts super rare
@@wb624 Not being rude, but I think they are aware it isn't only in the Black community.
I think they are just pointing out the black community since they are from the Black community and may not want to speak for other races and how they deal with stuff even if many races may deal with alot of stuff similary
I do agree with you about alot of older people being that way though.
that one older lady with glasses is so wise. I learned from her that it is important to do things thoughtfully today while looking at the product of our actions in the long term.
I know right! Bless her soul! She reminds me so much of my elderly friend at church whose african! Such a gentle personality!
I like her too. It was horrible that she couldn’t get a job when she was younger because she had an AFRO and looked “ too militant “. That is some crap. ITS JUST HAIR!
@@animalkingdom2871 she reminds me of a aunt ... aunt cynthia
@@alexandriatrenier7366 she has boss vibes.
Such a powerful video, beautiful representation. Brought me to tears.
I absolutley loved this one Cynthia spoke to my soul a few times
they brought great teenagers to represent our generation, i’m happy with the casting crew for this episode
Me too
These teenagers are extremely indoctrinated
@@thebk247 i wouldn’t agree but i see why you say that
@@thebk247 interesting analysis
You mean the young girl who essentially argues that living in the US and the Philippines are comparable?
I really like how Cynthia would say, "I understand how you feel and why you feel" before saying something. That alone tells you a lot about her. Huge kudos to her.
She is great. The way she responded about the people struggling in the Phillipines was so thoughtful. I was thinking the same but could never say it so nicely. The young woman says her family there is happy there when she visits. Sweetie you "visit" there. You don't live that life nor would you choose to do so. You are first generation privileged that your mom moved away.
I’m so proud of everyone here and the young people so inspiring ! Lovely to hear them speak
This dialogue LITERALLY warms my heart. Much respect to everyone involved. 1️⃣❤️
there are so many comments saying "easiest question ever", "it's the grandparents" but that's answering the title. The video is 30 minutes long and has so much more than "who struggles more?" but people want to comment for likes before they watch the whole video
*Exactly. My biggest takeaway from not only this video but in general (in this case:BP) is that the younger gen understands the mistakes the older gen fought for/did & are trying to correct it. The older gen fought for certain things that in the long run doesn't help the upcoming gens like trying to be equal with a group that hates them & get in the same areas as them. The younger gen understands we needs laws & protection specifically for us*
Thank you!!! The title isn't even the same anymore, probably changed bc Jubilee noticed people reading the title instead of watching the ENTIRE video and THEN commenting. smh.
was just gonna say the same thing
Exactly. It's almost as if ppl commented before watching the whole convo like???!?
@@MegumiHayashida I clicked on the video within 5 minutes of the upload and people already commented so you can be sure that they did not watch the entire video, which really shows what their aim is.
"You are the leaders."
That message isn't just for the youth. I get sick of hearing people say we need a new Malcolm or Martin. We already have our leaders. We just need to embrace and encourage each other.
Agreed!
Yeah, I agree. Everyone is a leader. Someone just needs to step up
I agree 100%
i really appreciate this video and i just want to say thank you to each of the participants for sharing, i truly appreciate your vulnerability and putting yourselves out there and your words mean a lot to me!
Of all Jubilee's videos, this is the most beautiful and enriching.
“I am resilient because I have the power to harm or to heal, and this time I choose to heal” ... wow
I choose to harm because that's what gets results
Cynthia... My Gosh. She’s so insightful: “It’s one thing to say it than to live it”. You can tell she’s been through a lot.
Save The Nations
I hope you had a nice day, hope you have a nice evening
Such a great video. Really thoughtful people and really productive discussion
I didn't know I needed to see this, but i really glad I found this!
I just want to say that whilst dating another race, often it is the woman seen as the traitor. I date a black guy, im white and he gets praised and I get the looks, opposite wise a girlfriend of mine is black and her boyfriend white, he gets praised she gets the dirty looks. We hold it against women, as its their responsibility to choose the "right" guy
Sorry English not so good, im French 🥴
I definitely agree with you. From my perspective though, I’ve always gotten flack from women for dating outside of my race
I can't agree from my past experiences. I'm black and have dated a white girl in high school. I noticed the looks and even had a teacher mouth to herself "oh my god" after seeing us hold hands. I get judged by my own race especially by women for dating outside my race.
@@tevonthemoney21 i read the comment to my boyfriend and he told me that what you are saying is very true, in the black community women dont like black men dating white girls. Hé also told me that its because often the society showed the black woman inferior beauty wise to the white woman, and have been undermined even in their own culture, and so there is this internalized misogynie towards white women, because of this male valorisation of white. Saying this, i do think its important to let people just love each other and we should never let our insecurities or our self&sociétal beliefs act on other people's hapiness and choices, with micro agressions
Again, it seems like its against women we hold it in some ways, or its mostly women that create this conflict, i think there is a lot of sexism in racism and that is why it affects women more then men in some ways, and when i mean affects i mean they get the evils but they also create the evils because of the dévalorisation of one women over the other in the sociéty
I really Hope im being clear im trying my best 😭
@@tevonthemoney21 and just to add, black women are praised by white guys in the same way I gave the opposite example in my message just on top. So, we find the same problem where white women feel inferiorised by white men when they valorise more so black women. So this internalized misogynie goes both ways, maybe that is why we try to look like each other in some ways.
This sexism where we objectify women in categories and sterotypes (porn has a lot of responsibility in this) accentuates racism in between women
But anyways if i dont stop writting, it would be a book 🤪
There is just so much to say
As a black person it’s different. Black men are praised by mainly other black men, while black women are disappointed. But when a black woman does it, they get a fair share of women and mainly all the black men. We call the women who are like that, “pick me’s”.
The answer is simple: The grandparents.
Most definitely
This doesn’t even need to be a debate 🤦♂️😂
No the teens. You all need to actually analyze economic data since 60s. Black Americans have made absolutely no gains in wealth since the Civil Rights Movement.
Current data indicates that it will take over 2 centuries for Black Americans to obtain the amount of wealth white Americans have today. Black wealth for all intents and purposes is practically nonexistent.
The Civil Rights Movement didn't manage to accomplish passing any economic policies to repair damage done by previous discriminatory polices.
MLK himself was an advocate for reparations as he knew black Americans needed it economically.
Is it a competition or a question of how far weve come
@@GreatUniter The question "Who has had it harder?" should not be solely interpreted from an economic standpoint.
Watching this in 2022... this very well may be the most empowering & insightful half hour slice of content I've ever absorbed! Conversations like this allow us to build longer tables; not taller fences.
That was truly beautiful
"In Brazil , If you're light skin, you're better"
Yeah, and most people still don't realize that over here..
Lmao, what's it like in Brazil? As an American, I've noticed that I literally no nothing about the this absolutely massive country. Last year I learned that you literally had a fascist dictator during WWII. Crazy place lol.
@@ayinstrumentals7731 hey, if u wanna know more about race here, you should check Lélia Gonzalez's works. she has some amazing books and articles. Abdias do Nascimento is also a great writer in the same heavy topic that is race here in BR.
@@alexisdrumond7317 Ight, I'll check them out. It's crazy how Brazil and the rest of South American history is just left out of most circles.
@@ayinstrumentals7731 check out Thomas Sowell. His recent revised books reveal much about current minority states.
@@alexisdrumond7317 Fico muito agradecida que vc chegou antes daquele brasileiro que diz que 50% do Brasil é branco pra educar o gringo.
I think this episode was not a typical "Middle Ground" episode but just a regular discussion. I overall still enjoyed the episode! Reminds me of myself talking to my grandparents about their upbringing/life experiences.
The old folks had it harder tho - it’s so obvi I didn’t even bother to watch the video
@@poocrayon4588 That was only one of the questions.
@@poocrayon4588 why are you commenting the same thing in every reply we get it weirdo
I would’ve liked to see a black millennials .. maybe someone in their early 30s on the panel... HONESTLY but this was a good decision . Black millennials have been trying soo hard to fight the system . And we get ignored so much
@@Tttttttttttttttt484 yeah i agree, as the original commenter said this wasnt a typical episode of middle ground, and i think if they had had four groups (boomers, gen x, millennials, gen z) it would have been an even cooler and more nuanced conversation. i think the reason they went with gen z and boomers is because of how large the age gap is makes for very different experiences and more conversation, and also because the recent blm movement has been largely attributed to gen z (despite a lot of the supporters being millennials).
I think this is the best conversation I've seen. I've learned so much. I'm 39 so I'm leaning more to the grandparents but not too far from the teens
This video is my favourite!!! It is so educational🙌🏽