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  • @jubilee
    @jubilee  4 роки тому +3425

    Hey everyone - thanks so much for watching this amazing conversation. Thank you to SK-II for making this episode possible! If you enjoyed this piece, be sure to check out SK-II's amazing docu-series #Timelines with Katie Couric (ua-cam.com/video/isfY58KGNtk/v-deo.html) that addresses pressures women face all around the world. Love you all - thanks for watching and supporting!

    • @joseltafoya5725
      @joseltafoya5725 4 роки тому +11

      Jubilee you did not include a sample of Hispanics or Arabs. Their perspectives are important as well. I didn't watch the video all the way through because of the lack of inclusion.

    • @stupiditystarbucks7771
      @stupiditystarbucks7771 4 роки тому +64

      @Jose Tafoya
      They can’t include someone of every single race. Inclusion is great but that doesn’t mean forcing in every single person with a difference in sexuality/race/gender etc... People have many different perspectives and I know for a fact he main thing that influences my perspective is not the color of my skin.

    • @stupiditystarbucks7771
      @stupiditystarbucks7771 4 роки тому +15

      Also! Jubilee, do “can fathers and sons see eye to eye?” If love to see the perspective of fathers vs. sons and the pressures they face in society as men.

    • @blackmermaid1
      @blackmermaid1 4 роки тому +4

      Jubilee you should do parents that are against spanking vs parents that are not

    • @IEJ932
      @IEJ932 4 роки тому +18

      Jose Tafoya they had an Asian, black and white relationship, they can only have 3 different races? They have and will be in other videos

  • @jhsemoxitha3821
    @jhsemoxitha3821 4 роки тому +4304

    Having a child isn't about your experience it's another life tf

    • @rahmancyrus65
      @rahmancyrus65 4 роки тому +94

      No it's both because you both grow together as parent and child adding to each others lives and taking care of each other.......once done properly anyway. Having kids is more than just feeding them just like how you were & are a person and not just a mouth to feed.

    • @onetwentyfour
      @onetwentyfour 3 роки тому +179

      Really lets you know how much of a selfish decision it is for a lot of people. "Let me bring this non-existent person into the world for my own personal pleasure."

    • @rdkdkf5032
      @rdkdkf5032 3 роки тому +4

      @@onetwentyfour wtf

    • @ellajulia162
      @ellajulia162 3 роки тому +40

      Rahman Cyrus
      But if you are only having one for an experience like how she phrased it. If you don’t feel ready or don’t want them then you shouldn’t have one just for the experience

    • @applepieplays1684
      @applepieplays1684 3 роки тому +2

      @@rdkdkf5032 People think that way, sadly

  • @quinnietftw2676
    @quinnietftw2676 4 роки тому +5046

    "What do you know when you're 25" says the woman who got married at 23

    • @CrackerJackIsHere
      @CrackerJackIsHere 3 роки тому +367

      @Alex Dighton the point is that that mother made a huge life decision at a younger age than the daughter did. So devaluing her choice based on age is ignorant.

    • @user-er8bu8eb6o
      @user-er8bu8eb6o 3 роки тому +70

      @Alex Dighton wisdom is useless when the world around you changes.

    • @hayvynsmith5455
      @hayvynsmith5455 3 роки тому +1

      quinniet ftw THAT PART

    • @kardelenkelek229
      @kardelenkelek229 3 роки тому +29

      @Alex Dighton intelligence is in the head not in the age its a turkish proverb btw

    • @lilithh24
      @lilithh24 3 роки тому +1

      @@kardelenkelek229 aa türk buldum

  • @RaePalpatine
    @RaePalpatine 3 роки тому +15095

    "What is a successful woman without a husband?
    A successful woman."

  • @ibelieveinsherlockholmes124
    @ibelieveinsherlockholmes124 3 роки тому +6078

    "You're so young, what do you know about what you want at 25?"
    *Got married at 23, had a child at 24*

    • @tomotomi2182
      @tomotomi2182 2 роки тому +57

      Is something wrong with that?? Like it is better at that age... you don't get any younger by the day... you'll be older and won't have energy to truly play with your kid.. a female and a male lose some of their fertility with every year..

    • @ibelieveinsherlockholmes124
      @ibelieveinsherlockholmes124 2 роки тому +917

      @@tomotomi2182 You completely missed the point here chief.
      I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with having a child at that age. I'm simply pointing out the hypocrisy of this woman's statement. She can know exactly what she wants at 23/24 by getting married and having a child, but a 25 year old not wanting kids is "too young to know what they want". It's beyond hypocritical.
      Women's life plans are generally only seen as valid if they involve marriage and children. If it doesn't, then the mentality is always "they will change their minds, they are too young to truly know what they want". Which is ridiculous.

    • @desireandfire
      @desireandfire 2 роки тому +69

      @@tomotomi2182 they aren't saying it's wrong to have kids at 24. They are pointing out the hypocrisy in the white ladies views. How can you tell someone they don't know what they want because of their age when you KNEW what you wanted when you were EVEN younger

    • @Emkito
      @Emkito 2 роки тому +40

      my parents are always like "when i was 22 i was already married" yeah because you two didnt use a condom and made my oldest sibling because youre dumbasses

    • @giftyitama5787
      @giftyitama5787 2 роки тому +35

      It just goes to show that a 25 year old now is equal to a 13 year old then

  • @EllaGP22
    @EllaGP22 4 роки тому +3891

    “What do you know at 25?”
    -*gets married at 23*

    • @alinas.3433
      @alinas.3433 4 роки тому +147

      lmao. you DEFINITELY know whether you want a kid or not at 25 and have your own freedom to choose

    • @talyabrown1939
      @talyabrown1939 4 роки тому +17

      She’s still married so at least she knows something. If it was gonna come from anyone at least her

    • @kairilyn
      @kairilyn 4 роки тому +24

      ​@@alinas.3433 Exactly like 25 is the best time to choose where you want your life to go, you've already gotten a taste on how adult life is and had good timing to map out how you want the rest of your life to go.

    • @BlueMagic334
      @BlueMagic334 4 роки тому +5

      TEA 👏🏿

    • @CarterWills1
      @CarterWills1 3 роки тому +1

      Ailyn Song actually the majority of women who don’t want to get married and have children in their twenties change their mind in their thirties

  • @yipperdoodles3189
    @yipperdoodles3189 3 роки тому +8609

    "have a child just to experience it"
    what're you gonna do if you end up hating motherhood? return it? having a child is a choice, not a requirement

    • @jelly2268
      @jelly2268 3 роки тому +152

      exactly

    • @shom924
      @shom924 3 роки тому +259

      Whaaat mine came with a free refund

    • @rarebreednoel
      @rarebreednoel 3 роки тому +67

      Ikr like wtf💀

    • @pinkachu23
      @pinkachu23 3 роки тому +340

      "have a child just to experience it" is a huge no for me like???? Having a child shouldn't be a damn experiment whether you want them or not!

    • @elainad6728
      @elainad6728 3 роки тому +54

      Ikr you cant give the child back...

  • @aenzen3681
    @aenzen3681 2 роки тому +6046

    The mentality of having children so someone could take care of you when your older is like treating them as an investment and basically planning to make yourself a burden for your children

    • @gpace98
      @gpace98 2 роки тому +187

      I really hate it

    • @IL_Bgentyl
      @IL_Bgentyl 2 роки тому +109

      Well don’t date asians that’s huge in Asian culture but I see nothing wrong with it.

    • @JustAnotherLokiStan
      @JustAnotherLokiStan 2 роки тому +410

      @@IL_Bgentyl you see nothing wrong with having kids just so you can secure your life when you're old, treating them like livestock, essentially? Real nice. I'm Asian too, and I have the basic decency to understand that kids owe NOTHING to their parents. NOTHING. You chose to have kids? It's your responsibility to raise them. You don't get to ask for favours in return for doing something YOU signed up for.
      I feel really sorry for your child/children, dude.

    • @caesarzeppeli3994
      @caesarzeppeli3994 2 роки тому +10

      @@JustAnotherLokiStan lmao have fun living miserable with no one to care for you when you're 80

    • @JustAnotherLokiStan
      @JustAnotherLokiStan 2 роки тому +95

      @@caesarzeppeli3994 I'd rather have nobody to care for me when I'm old than regret having a kid, make them feel unwanted and give them lifelong trauma, as simple as that. The point of children is to raise a wonderful human being, not to invest in an actual person so you can use them later on. I have other goals in life and kids aren't a part of any of them. I don't want my life disrupted by a kid I don't want only to disrupt an innocent kid's mental health and ruin their life. Parenthood isn't for everyone. If more people understood this basic concept, people like me wouldn't be tr*umatized because of ab*sive immature parents.

  • @hana-ko9ow
    @hana-ko9ow 3 роки тому +3511

    "Are you scared to disappoint your parents?"
    *asian daughter slowly walks forward*
    relatable

    • @weirdflex8158
      @weirdflex8158 3 роки тому +10

      Who is not thats a good thing

    • @rishikabarve8697
      @rishikabarve8697 2 роки тому +8

      Omg sooo true

    • @pianooooo11
      @pianooooo11 2 роки тому +7

      VERY TRUE

    • @candyqueen768
      @candyqueen768 2 роки тому +27

      Relatable to ANY Asian. At all.

    • @dian277
      @dian277 2 роки тому +15

      I'll give an exception. I feel bad for my parents to be disappointed just in general, but I will not be scared if I have to stand my ground with courage. After all, we're different generations, it's only normal for us to have different perspectives, values and ideals. I respect their personal opinion, but no one can live for me but myself. I will always be the only one responsible for my actions, so I have to make decisions on my own.

  • @lylanewman5461
    @lylanewman5461 4 роки тому +8005

    “You need to have a child to at least experience it.”
    lol like children just despawn.

    • @hopewootton5287
      @hopewootton5287 4 роки тому +45

      LyLA NeWmAN 😂

    • @hijodelsoldeoriente
      @hijodelsoldeoriente 4 роки тому +94

      Basically the sole reason why people in my country marry.

    • @marshiemellow3232
      @marshiemellow3232 4 роки тому +10

      Well for women they don't have all the time in the world to have a baby if they want to have one.

    • @ct6926
      @ct6926 4 роки тому +92

      @@marshiemellow3232 you clearly missed her point.

    • @alyagyzmova9252
      @alyagyzmova9252 4 роки тому +6

      Marshie Mellow In 3rd world countries they are not so busy and get pregnant all the time

  • @sammierivera6063
    @sammierivera6063 4 роки тому +4735

    “You need to have one child to at least experience it”
    That’s not a good argument. That’s how most of these babies are abandoned,abused,and unloved.
    Babies arent a test.

    • @luxurypetscz
      @luxurypetscz 4 роки тому +192

      Exactly what I thought. You shouldn't get a dog "just to test it out" and definitely not a kid!!

    • @asha_vere
      @asha_vere 4 роки тому +10

      This!!!

    • @yasminnur3924
      @yasminnur3924 4 роки тому +6

      👏

    • @daisystarthebrave8206
      @daisystarthebrave8206 4 роки тому +95

      Yeah children aren’t like sky diving, or zip lining, or horse back riding, or driving, or traveling, or riding your bike, or even going to college. They are a permanent thing and once you have them they are a life that depends on you and it’s your job to love them and care for them and make them feel safe and loved and you have to defend them with your life and they are not just some temporary thing that you can do and then when you get tired or bored return them. I can’t believe she said that!

    • @selinablue7498
      @selinablue7498 4 роки тому +39

      Right, children aren’t that new exciting sounding restaurant in your city.

  • @day6atemywallet78
    @day6atemywallet78 Рік тому +2566

    The problem is not even the marriage. I think most daughters have grown up seeing toxic marriages and how patriarchy makes marriages a gender thing instead of a partnership.

    • @chelseabartilad3102
      @chelseabartilad3102 Рік тому +63

      I completely agree. My parents divorced when I was really little and that influenced my perception on marriage and relationships in general, even at an early age. Although my parents were very caring towards me, I didn’t grow up in a nuclear family so it can be difficult to imagine myself married with my own kids

    • @chelseabartilad3102
      @chelseabartilad3102 Рік тому +3

      Also side note, I love your username 👀

    • @mdtrtwlt
      @mdtrtwlt Рік тому +6

      100% agreed

    • @shaymasweis5844
      @shaymasweis5844 Рік тому +12

      I agree with you, and that’s made me feel bad about marriage. But now as a strong independent woman, I have a different opinion about marriage. I think we can overcome toxic marriages by avoiding them, so the person should be sure about his/her partner. Also, the worst thing about toxic marriages is being with the wrong person and not getting divorced !

    • @Jvzz_
      @Jvzz_ Рік тому +1

      Exactly

  • @sunshinepeace
    @sunshinepeace 2 роки тому +1590

    I just wanted to add that if Afrika does change her mind and wants to have kids she can always adopt 🤷🏽‍♀️ you dont have to physically birth kids to be a mother

    • @sunshineman5640
      @sunshineman5640 Рік тому +18

      Fr

    • @dnt.kybella
      @dnt.kybella Рік тому +76

      I was literally so annoyed and i was yelling this to the screen. If u do wanna have a baby bc u want to experience to be pregnant, then u are selfish Bc that’s a life commitment. Likee ugh im so annoyed.

    • @TheMsLollidella
      @TheMsLollidella Рік тому +28

      No but there is something different when a child comes from your womb there’s no denying that . But motherhood is still the same. It’s just pregnancy itself is an experience vs just adopting a child, if you understand my point .

    • @onemoreweirdo207
      @onemoreweirdo207 Рік тому +102

      @@TheMsLollidella That's the thing; many people don't want to go through being pregnant. For me personally, the idea having a living thing inside me disgusts me. And then all the pain for getting it out, the risk of dying for it? Not worth it when there already are so many children who need to be adopted.

    • @nothanks1239
      @nothanks1239 Рік тому +23

      People always suggest adoption like it is the easiest thing to do. It really isn't. Whilst I 100% encourage people to adopt if they wish to, I do not want to delude people that it's an easy decision to make. Having a child at all is not an easy decision to make, for various reasons. I'm just tired of hearing people adopt thinking it will be easy, and then returning that child. So heartbreaking.

  • @doobieddooo
    @doobieddooo 4 роки тому +4691

    Not everyone is supposed to be a mom. And it’s okay.

    • @prnst4r
      @prnst4r 4 роки тому +364

      But yet the ones that shouldn't be moms become moms.

    • @Yuno999.
      @Yuno999. 4 роки тому +89

      @@prnst4r The worst thing ever i stg. Its so sad.

    • @BlendedBarbieDoll
      @BlendedBarbieDoll 4 роки тому +30

      This is true...but yet many of those woman become mothers and shouldn't be.

    • @ayypapi9366
      @ayypapi9366 4 роки тому +5

      Wittle Kitten a perfect example is jen cohn

    • @blacklivesmatter4458
      @blacklivesmatter4458 4 роки тому +2

      HiByebtwn damn right

  • @feo4078
    @feo4078 4 роки тому +10812

    people be thinking about marriage while i can’t even get someone to love me

    • @anjasinger2199
      @anjasinger2199 4 роки тому +73

      Same

    • @17slexy90
      @17slexy90 4 роки тому +117

      Welp you have bts😂

    • @ayyedallas3521
      @ayyedallas3521 4 роки тому +59

      Yeah same here. Also I see both ARMY and stays in this comment section and I’m honestly living for it

    • @nm.3178
      @nm.3178 4 роки тому +23

      The fabulous Dodocorn same💀 I’m literally nobody’s type

    • @croissant._.003
      @croissant._.003 4 роки тому +31

      Same. I get asked out a lot but by people I don't even know or have interest in. 😔✊🏻 sad truth

  • @rebeccaharris7890
    @rebeccaharris7890 2 роки тому +861

    Having children is the BIGGEST commitment you will ever make! Children affect your health, happiness, finances, freedom, your dreams, every aspect of your life. I find it shocking we collectively have this enormous pressure to fit the "ideal mother" stereotype. I'm so encouraged that women and girls are pushing back on this narrative. Of course, have children if you are passionate about it, but women without children are just as valid, just as amazing and just as capable of living a fulfilling life.

    • @cuorenerazzurro1661
      @cuorenerazzurro1661 Рік тому

      Typical point of view of a US citizens know with most selfish society, without value. A child doesn t "affect" dreams, freedom neither finance or health, it s the way you take your role as parents that will do it, if you love your child and are able to raise him/her/them I don t see how it can be awful.
      You américains are the reflection of this decadence that affect the new generations in the west.

    • @peachescrustynipple
      @peachescrustynipple 7 місяців тому +2

      Period.

  • @littlewolf2703
    @littlewolf2703 2 роки тому +333

    Y'all just remember that NOT wanting to have children it's NOT selfish!

  • @parrotparfait9898
    @parrotparfait9898 4 роки тому +14495

    Exact same episode, but men instead of women.

  • @dawn_isatotalqueen
    @dawn_isatotalqueen 4 роки тому +3655

    "What do you know when you're 25?"
    "I'm 26."
    Parenting 10/10

    • @rahmancyrus65
      @rahmancyrus65 4 роки тому +123

      That was only 1 year off and umm shes not her parent........so your parenting 10/10 thing is incorrect.

    • @lolitakeitisama2364
      @lolitakeitisama2364 4 роки тому +64

      she is not her parent

    • @naikerichter9150
      @naikerichter9150 3 роки тому +29

      Why does she thinks she knows Afrika and her future thoughts when she doesn't even know her age tf

    • @shamiltineo5291
      @shamiltineo5291 3 роки тому

      @@rahmancyrus65 because no one could tell that wasn’t her mom😭

    • @acielvert8573
      @acielvert8573 3 роки тому +1

      my dad think im 14
      Im 17...

  • @tbabyrobinsin
    @tbabyrobinsin 2 роки тому +530

    I love how the Asian mom was able to reflect and hear that her daughter said she has put pressure on her daughter and she apologized for it and said in the future she is an open book and will be there for questions or to just hear her out and support what she wants. I love how this opened her view on her daughters life and feelings and noticed where she may have added extra pressure and that she can now think more about that in the future. That was nice

  • @graciep5829
    @graciep5829 2 роки тому +506

    "do i owe her a grandchild? Because of all she's done for me?" no. you don't owe her anything for simply being a mother to you, and doing what she should because she's the one who brought you into the world. you don't owe anyone anything
    \

    • @nailanoorein2086
      @nailanoorein2086 2 роки тому +7

      If your parents were. Or abusive,then just remember your mother carried you inside of her,loved you,nurtured you and your father probably broke his back to provide for you the best things in life,nothing you do in this life can ever pay back the sacrifices your parents made,you cam never pay the, back,be grateful for the things you have in life

    • @nailanoorein2086
      @nailanoorein2086 2 роки тому +2

      *if your parents were not abusive,I meant

    • @nailanoorein2086
      @nailanoorein2086 2 роки тому

      @mio well said

    • @sunl6539
      @sunl6539 Рік тому +17

      @@mio8765 except parents should give a reason for the child to want to respect and love them, it’s a two way street. the parents asked for the child the child never asked for any of this; You can’t expect them to owe parents anything, of course unless your parents are abusive/awful parents you SHOULD respect them and love them; but also in most cases of a child never loving their parents it is because of cases of abuse/bad parents

    • @JohnJohnson-do3db
      @JohnJohnson-do3db 11 місяців тому +1

      This is such a disgusting mindset. I get it if your parents were abusive or something of that sort, but if they put a roof over your head, food on your plate, clothes on your back, or if they tried their hardest to do so and do what is best for their kids, you shouldn’t feel you need to give your parents grandchildren, but you should have the mindset that you owe your parents the world and then some.

  • @fuki.
    @fuki. 4 роки тому +26974

    I don’t know why this hasn’t been done yet. Husband vs. wife: views on marriage

    • @kadylynch5110
      @kadylynch5110 4 роки тому +1459

      I agree but not with like..... couples just people who don't know each other would be more interesting

    • @melvinbowen2nd
      @melvinbowen2nd 4 роки тому +485

      People who don’t know each other and different backgrounds and religions...but married man and woman do lgbtq relationships in another video

    • @DragonGota
      @DragonGota 4 роки тому +51

      I think it hasnt been done as i think if a husband starts talking bout marrage in a negative way he us going to get in trouble and vise versa

    • @Victoria-ve8tm
      @Victoria-ve8tm 4 роки тому +5

      YESSS

    • @Ray03595
      @Ray03595 4 роки тому +73

      divorce rates are already too high tho

  • @Cat-ih2ke
    @Cat-ih2ke 3 роки тому +4852

    id rather regret not having children then regret having children.

    • @urmomisthebomb902
      @urmomisthebomb902 3 роки тому +27

      Samd

    • @MOON-pe4jm
      @MOON-pe4jm 3 роки тому +5

      Same!!!!

    • @lolnah8490
      @lolnah8490 3 роки тому +48

      I do get the mom, cuz having children is being able to love someone more then yourself and I think that’s really special and I feel like that’s what she’s talking about. But I totally understand that not everyone wants to have kids and the stigma around women not having kids should change

    • @jaheimobazee4136
      @jaheimobazee4136 3 роки тому +3

      Sameee

    • @boredshrimp9425
      @boredshrimp9425 3 роки тому +39

      I've never seen a woman regretting not having children, but I've seen the opposite

  • @lemonii-e8446
    @lemonii-e8446 3 роки тому +496

    I remember once when I was around 8 or 9 years old, I used to take arabic class with one of my mom's friends. After the class, they were gossiping (like all people do lol) about their friends' daughter. She was in medical school, a really smart woman, very accomplished, yet the only thing my mother and my teacher were talking about was the fact that she was 30 and wasn't married. Not that she was an amazing person, had a kind demeanor, was almost out of medical school. It was that it was such a shame that she was too old to get married. I remember thinking that sounded so weird, and even at such a young age, that was implanted into my head. I still remember it 5-6 years later and it kind of still annoys me that people think that way. I'm not saying it's wrong to get married, I'm saying it's wrong to define a person based on their marriage status or something like that.
    Update on the woman though, she graduated medical school with high honors, has a great job, isn't married, and is living an amazing life :D

    • @cassandra3180
      @cassandra3180 2 роки тому +27

      Lol I remember overhearing my mother and Algerian grandfather talking on the phone about how tragic it was that I was single and i was only 23 at the time. Arab grandparents are the worst when it comes to that stuff lol

    • @freepalestine9777
      @freepalestine9777 2 роки тому

      dayummm mashallah 😻😻😻

    • @chocolattefeverdreams4228
      @chocolattefeverdreams4228 Рік тому +5

      This is the same for me, except it's with my cousin brother. It's never about how happy he is single or whether he has a successful job but always about how he's not even dating yet.

    • @sb8095
      @sb8095 Рік тому

      ​@@cassandra3180 frr

  • @estrellassoliloquies
    @estrellassoliloquies 2 роки тому +243

    My mom got married (was forced and emotionally blackmailed because my grand father's health was declining and HE wanted to see her married before dying) to my father who she NEVER SAW before, he was 27 at the time!!
    I was born the next year!
    And they ask me why I have so much hate for this marriage culture

    • @nailanoorein2086
      @nailanoorein2086 2 роки тому +5

      I have seen may forced marriages too😢😓btw which culture do you come from?

    • @swatisaini6447
      @swatisaini6447 2 роки тому

      Indian?

    • @shaildevnum9840
      @shaildevnum9840 Рік тому +1

      Same dude.. My mother was 19 and my dad was in his 30s ... I am glad she had the choice to had me when she was 22...

    • @sb8095
      @sb8095 Рік тому

      ​@@nailanoorein2086 judging from the name, she is desi

  • @kellycouto3791
    @kellycouto3791 4 роки тому +13138

    “I definitely believe in letting a man be a man, but he can cook too.”
    What a Queen 👏🏻👑

    • @chokesuke4316
      @chokesuke4316 4 роки тому +23

      @@luismaldonado4989 lmao FACTS

    • @jennifergarcia2710
      @jennifergarcia2710 4 роки тому +36

      @@luismaldonado4989 Assuming things without knowing...🙄

    • @baabaq9126
      @baabaq9126 4 роки тому +339

      Letting a man be a man is still upholding gendered stereotypes. There's really nothing praiseworthy about the follow up statement

    • @shotabdi4868
      @shotabdi4868 4 роки тому +35

      @@baabaq9126 agree

    • @empo8598
      @empo8598 4 роки тому +71

      Yeah but what is being a man

  • @lucy4697
    @lucy4697 4 роки тому +4460

    So, she thinks 25 is a perfect age to get married and have children but not to get her tubes tied

    • @stellaeliserose4700
      @stellaeliserose4700 4 роки тому +409

      exactly, its a good age to decide to have children, but not a good age to decide not to have children... hmmmm

    • @CarterWills1
      @CarterWills1 3 роки тому +75

      Because many people change their mind on not wanting to have children

    • @repiado555
      @repiado555 3 роки тому +281

      @@CarterWills1 adoption is always an option in that case, it's not the end of world lol

    • @lilacwine8837
      @lilacwine8837 3 роки тому +188

      Grim Wills more dangerous the other way, i feel. it is infinitely worse to bring a child in this world and regret it. my mother decided she wanted children until she was 35 and i know she regrets it. she hates her life, everyone in my family hates their lives and each other consequentially.

    • @lilacwine8837
      @lilacwine8837 3 роки тому +1

      Grim Wills you should follow what you’ve always known

  • @sarahwilliams4092
    @sarahwilliams4092 Рік тому +815

    Her getting her tubes tied doesn't mean she can't still have children. The fact that people keep forgetting about all of these children in the world with no homes, no families boggles my mind.

    • @Kiki-uv7pm
      @Kiki-uv7pm Рік тому +63

      Yes!!! Adoption and surrogacy!! I hate it when people think the most acceptable way to have kids is through getting pregnant. Any kid whether adopted, birthed, or surrogate is your kid!

    • @Ummkelechi
      @Ummkelechi Рік тому +13

      She is too young to have her tubes tied. Very sad. I pray my daughters don’t grow to be modern feminists!! This is very sad to watch.

    • @Kiki-uv7pm
      @Kiki-uv7pm Рік тому +57

      @@Ummkelechi They can still adopt!! And if your daughters don’t want kids it’s their choice and as a parent you should respect that. Not everyone wants to be a mother and that’s fine. It’s also ok to be a modern feminist. Not all feminists get their tubes tied.

    • @m.a.1111
      @m.a.1111 Рік тому +43

      @@Ummkelechi I pray your daughters will put you in a retirement home instead of taking care of you.

    • @Ummkelechi
      @Ummkelechi Рік тому +15

      @@m.a.1111 what an evil prayer. I pray they will love and care for me as I have done for them. You must be single with no kids! I feel sorry for you!!

  • @DavidGalo777
    @DavidGalo777 2 роки тому +305

    Annemarie: What do you know at 25?
    Also Annemarie: I got married at 23.
    LOL

  • @ipettynote
    @ipettynote 3 роки тому +12797

    “Just have a child to experience it”
    So do I get a refund? 😀

    • @tiannasouthern5584
      @tiannasouthern5584 3 роки тому +232

      HAHAHHAHAAAAAA

    • @multi__simp2391
      @multi__simp2391 3 роки тому +345

      I would have loved if my mom asked for a refund.

    • @heyadora6207
      @heyadora6207 3 роки тому +530

      Exactly lmao
      That shouldn’t be the reason you have kids, and it’s kind of toxic if you do. The kid can end up unhappy, especially if the parents only had the kid to “experience it” and not because they wanted a family.

    • @tamaramagwaro4136
      @tamaramagwaro4136 3 роки тому +72

      just keep the receipt

    • @dustinbrite2422
      @dustinbrite2422 3 роки тому +49

      That is called post-birth abortion.

  • @elisekate1754
    @elisekate1754 3 роки тому +3937

    I do not want children. I'm sick of being told I will change my mind. I'm 27. If I wanted kids I would adopt. There's too many children in homes.

    • @uh.kitanbanjo
      @uh.kitanbanjo 3 роки тому +133

      ME- i’m literally a child (13) but i feel the exact same way

    • @jazzie2967
      @jazzie2967 3 роки тому +138

      Can you imagine, how beautiful it could be for me to form a relationship with a child that is not my blood? I changed that child's life. Thats why i find more beauty in adopting but i truly dont want children either. I am young but truly i feel like my children wont understand the hardships of what ive been through to keep that child happy, but the other children could have an idea of what life is like.

    • @HopesUAllDie
      @HopesUAllDie 3 роки тому +47

      Same. I'm 27 too and I want kids I just don't want to be pregnant! Adoption!

    • @malikaomar
      @malikaomar 3 роки тому +46

      i'd rather have a cat then kid

    • @deborahowiredu6669
      @deborahowiredu6669 3 роки тому +1

      What do u mean there’s too many children in homes lol

  • @H2h0e
    @H2h0e 3 роки тому +123

    You shouldn’t have a kid just for the sake of having a kid. It’s not an “experience” it’s a lifelong commitment.

  • @zofia2750
    @zofia2750 Рік тому +161

    I don't agree with a lot of Annemarie's opinions, but I appreciate the kindness she approaches it with. It worked for her and that's wonderful - the challenge is, when your marriage fails (which is statistically very likely) and you are not in control of your finances, all of a sudden you can end up with nothing, if your husband was the sole provider.

  • @calistadavis7877
    @calistadavis7877 4 роки тому +8236

    Marry whoever you want, whenever you want, IF you want. Simple.

    • @kharunavelloo7712
      @kharunavelloo7712 4 роки тому +37

      Exactly girl👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

    • @akaakaakaak5779
      @akaakaakaak5779 4 роки тому +230

      *assuming the other person feels the same. "Marry whoever you want" is a little depressing to read because they have to want it too

    • @17slexy90
      @17slexy90 4 роки тому +16

      These people make things harder.

    • @chempanda6388
      @chempanda6388 4 роки тому +12

      Agree with that. It's hard to find a good awesome human being

    • @nicoleffion1563
      @nicoleffion1563 4 роки тому

      Calista Davis thankyou

  • @insanityofmine7569
    @insanityofmine7569 4 роки тому +3549

    I like how Cassandra’s mom said she felt bad for pressuring her daughter.

    • @sleepyash00
      @sleepyash00 4 роки тому +114

      then she proceeded to tell her to get married before 30 lol

    • @seanegan8150
      @seanegan8150 4 роки тому +177

      @@sleepyash00 I mean she only said she hoped she'd get married before 30 but I'm sure she meant well, like she said she didn't know Cas felt pressure before that

    • @krisans.cockburn3315
      @krisans.cockburn3315 4 роки тому +40

      @@sleepyash00 i mean everyone have a wish for a great future for their loved ones, and its not bad to at least share that with your child. Her mom just want her to have a great life and experience life. And it's equally awesome that the mom supports and listens to her daughter even if it means backing off.

    • @hymayra
      @hymayra 4 роки тому +2

      hahah ruined the 666

    • @sargassopearl
      @sargassopearl 4 роки тому +15

      @@sleepyash00 - She made it a point to say she *hoped*! There's nothing wrong with wanting something different for her daughter. She's obviously trying her best to be supportive of her daughter, despite having a different perspective and working with a cultural divide. As a daughter of a more traditional Korean mother, that earns my respect. I grew up hearing the typical "you need to get married and have kids to support you in your old age" shpiel, but I always knew that my mom would love and respect me even if I didn't.

  • @kylehutcherson6645
    @kylehutcherson6645 3 роки тому +621

    Unpopular opinion: *ALL* of these women seemed very lovely, and it would be cool if they went and got coffee, or something, afterwards.

    • @juli6952
      @juli6952 2 роки тому +110

      I wouldn't want to get coffee with the woman in the pink sweater. She got emotional because the girl didn't want kids and was getting her tube tied. And she wanted her daughter to have at least one kid to just "experience it".

    • @kylehutcherson6645
      @kylehutcherson6645 2 роки тому +12

      @@juli6952 That’s fine.

    • @justcallmelucky
      @justcallmelucky 2 роки тому +8

      Probably not that unpopular

    • @satan735
      @satan735 2 роки тому +27

      Except the lady in pink

    • @alyssap9282
      @alyssap9282 2 роки тому +13

      I completely agree. All their perspectives, especially the ones that are different from my own, feel they would be valuable. If nothing else, I would get to hear them talk about the thing that allowed them to live the best version of their life. And that's cool.

  • @epoch2844
    @epoch2844 2 роки тому +38

    A reason I don’t want kids is I just look at my mom she seems so stressed all the time

  • @yeonjzn
    @yeonjzn 4 роки тому +13634

    Afrika's mom keeps making jokes and everyone but her daughter laughs lmao

    • @Biobele
      @Biobele 4 роки тому +2068

      I thought I was the only one who noticed it, but generally parents are not funny to their kids even comedians it's not often their children find them funny.

    • @nobodyvenek
      @nobodyvenek 4 роки тому +978

      That's just how parents are lmao I'm just like that with my dad, there's a point where you know exactly what they're going to say and it stops beinh funny

    • @consumedparadise5178
      @consumedparadise5178 4 роки тому +514

      If they tend to make the same type of jokes, it does become repetitive.

    • @abbygriffin9105
      @abbygriffin9105 4 роки тому +28

      Lol.

    • @habibadeyji2407
      @habibadeyji2407 4 роки тому +134

      blazedbutera I’m just like that with my mom, everybody thinks she’s hilarious

  • @elizabethkeeports993
    @elizabethkeeports993 3 роки тому +2577

    A kid isn’t an experience it’s a life commitment

    • @valaritas5997
      @valaritas5997 3 роки тому +103

      YES......I am a first child to my family and after having me they blamed and hated me for the things they couldn't accomplish. I was emotionally hurt and still struggle with the blaming myself for the state my mom end up with and severe mental illness. No kid is an experiment. I am doing well in my education and want to adopt kids in the future with my best friend. We live together and aren't interested in any type of relationship. I hope all things work out and we raise our kids free of emotional baggage

    • @karawilliams5555
      @karawilliams5555 3 роки тому +19

      @@valaritas5997 I'm sorry that happened to you. No one should have to experience this😕

    • @valaritas5997
      @valaritas5997 3 роки тому +6

      @@karawilliams5555 :) ♡.... and I agree, no one should but a lot of people do that is why we should be committed before giving birth to babies or even adopting one.

    • @shreenidhhi8633
      @shreenidhhi8633 3 роки тому +1

      YES.

    • @Iggy2004
      @Iggy2004 2 роки тому +9

      @@valaritas5997 that is such an interesting story, I never thought of adopting kids as friends, you are an amazing and unique person and I wish you the best of luck in life!

  • @harshitapatil2815
    @harshitapatil2815 2 роки тому +18

    Why do people think that having a child will always make you happy, it could make you opposite

    • @Persephone69
      @Persephone69 Рік тому +6

      Yep. There's been plenty of books about women who have regretted having kids. It's a very interesting topic that I personally don't think is talked about enough

    • @harshitapatil2815
      @harshitapatil2815 Рік тому +2

      @@Persephone69 yeah! It should be talked about more

  • @tiffanycarreno9251
    @tiffanycarreno9251 2 роки тому +81

    My mom tells me not marry all the time. She tells me her childhood traumas,getting married at 18, and having 5 kids back to back at such a young age was the worst. My mom is not strict but she’s not loving at all. She’s more a friend then a mom. I came to also find out she didn’t want kids. She literally has 5 depressed kids in her hands.

    • @nailanoorein2086
      @nailanoorein2086 2 роки тому +3

      I understand you,in my culture and many other cultures ,I have seen countless forced marriages done when the girls were just 14,15 per 16,and now they have four to five kids and just stuck in misery and depression,my mom too has five kids and she never had a choice in marriage,but she never told us that she regrets having,it was just expected for a girl to be married off ,she raised everyone with love and cared so much,she still cares a lot but she is depressed and suk ideal because of domestic abuse and she can just endure it

    • @dapo3538
      @dapo3538 Рік тому +3

      That’s entirely messed up

    • @mw87675
      @mw87675 Рік тому +1

      Wow I'm sorry to hear that. I'm the opposite. I'm married with 5 kids and I really want my daughters to get married. I tell them all the time. Please get married and have families of your own. I know it's their choice but I do tell them it's a hope for me to see them have their own families too. But I totally understand they have freewill to do whatever they want.

    • @julieperez7505
      @julieperez7505 Рік тому +7

      @@mw87675 why? No seriously why does it matter if they have families? That is YOUR dream. May or may *not* be theirs. They never asked to be here. You chose to put them here. Their life is their own and the only thing you should be “hoping” for is for them to be happy and healthy. Their shouldn’t be any “expectations” for their life considering they never even chose this in the first place!

  • @cxpherv9581
    @cxpherv9581 3 роки тому +5362

    Please don’t have a child to ‘just experience it.’ If the experience is bad, your stuck with that ‘experience’ for 18 more years, and maybe more.

    • @jadecanney9791
      @jadecanney9791 3 роки тому +39

      I cant imagine anyone regretting having a child. Maybe the toddler years are hard but i just cant see anyone regretting becoming a mom.

    • @cxpherv9581
      @cxpherv9581 3 роки тому +359

      @@jadecanney9791 some people don’t want the responsibility and kids are very time consuming.

    • @dunniayede
      @dunniayede 3 роки тому +348

      @@jadecanney9791 I’ve heard of mothers that regretted having their kids years after giving birth. I’ve also heard of mothers that say it to their children’s faces that they are a “mistake” and if you know how terrible these things affect those children, you’d literally weep for them
      That’s why it’s best to have children only if you want to and if you don’t want, it’s totally fine if you decide not to have kids.

    • @velarium9996
      @velarium9996 3 роки тому +214

      @@jadecanney9791 Tell that to all the kids in the foster and adoption system. Not all of them are there because their parents kicked the bucket. Also, mothers abuse their children too, I don’t think that really represents wanting your kid.

    • @EllesGhost13
      @EllesGhost13 3 роки тому +80

      @@jadecanney9791 Some people have kids and do regret it, even if they love them if they could go back they'd not redo it, this is something people have actually said, for some having children destroys their lives

  • @Prussiapants
    @Prussiapants 3 роки тому +9307

    Repeat after me, "My daughter's body is not my body".

  • @ezzalongford9097
    @ezzalongford9097 3 роки тому +158

    I love my mum, but when it comes to gender and "womanly roles and traditions" I fall apart from her. I haven't come out to her as Non-binary yet and I NEVER want to have kids, it terrified me, I have a phobia of getting pregnant. I say to her I don't wanna have kids and it's always the same response "that's what I thought at your age but I changed my mind". I get angry and I feel guilty for not being the daughter she thinks I am

    • @selintuncer5430
      @selintuncer5430 2 роки тому +22

      Please dont feel guilty of who you are 🧡

    • @CreativeSoul101
      @CreativeSoul101 6 місяців тому

      It's her fault for putting expeditions on you

  • @briannapotter7232
    @briannapotter7232 Рік тому +77

    The white mom saying that her daughter could have changed her mind in the middle of the wedding and she would’ve taken her to the care and the daughter wouldn’t have to face anything made me tear up:)

  • @roberta9236
    @roberta9236 4 роки тому +2541

    6 college grads 1 secret dropout for an odd man out episode

    • @turtlepat5492
      @turtlepat5492 4 роки тому +18

      Bird Sahakova that’s a sick fuckint idea

    • @kate-bj3ym
      @kate-bj3ym 4 роки тому +61

      Even better you could do 6 ivy leave college grads and a drop out

    • @GlamourCat1920
      @GlamourCat1920 4 роки тому +1

      That’s an awesome idea!

    • @Shay45
      @Shay45 4 роки тому

      turtlepat
      Not necessarily some people are relieved that they dropped out b/c college wasn’t for them
      It depends on the person

    • @ebwbau8036
      @ebwbau8036 4 роки тому

      Omagawd YASSSSSSSSSSSS

  • @leahmarie112
    @leahmarie112 4 роки тому +2366

    "What do you know when you're 25." Yet half these women had kids and were married in their mid 20s....and yet THOSE were ok decisions?

    • @Awaitingpurgatory
      @Awaitingpurgatory 4 роки тому +22

      It’s not smart to do what she was wanting at that age, just because she could want a kid when she gets older and then she no longer can. That’s a serious thing and to get rid of it at such a young age is wild. Women don’t have to have a kid but most have that urge to have a child because it is a natural thing.

    • @shiobhandeshields5379
      @shiobhandeshields5379 4 роки тому +24

      Purg that’s not true, also when having a baby you can also not undo that decision

    • @Awaitingpurgatory
      @Awaitingpurgatory 4 роки тому +5

      Shiobhan De Shields nothing I said was untrue dude

    • @shiobhandeshields5379
      @shiobhandeshields5379 4 роки тому +45

      John Smith up until now I haven’t met a woman that regretted not having kids.

    • @shiobhandeshields5379
      @shiobhandeshields5379 4 роки тому +45

      Purg there are women that are 100% sure they want kids, as there are women that are 100% sure they don’t want kids. With birth control being a pain in the ass, how is getting their tubes tied not a smart decision, when you absolutely don’t want to have kids?
      I know where you are coming from, but how is having kids at that age a smarter decision?

  • @zhulimoon46
    @zhulimoon46 3 роки тому +457

    It would have been really interesting to have this with the daughters being LGBT.

    • @sanchitaagte8215
      @sanchitaagte8215 2 роки тому +27

      I was thinking the same thing

    • @zhulimoon46
      @zhulimoon46 2 роки тому +4

      @Jennifer Diaz yeah but a lot of parents have a lot of different opinions, so it would be more interesting to watch.

    • @Ummkelechi
      @Ummkelechi Рік тому +3

      I’m glad they didn’t. That is really an issue with women these days.

    • @GinjaFajr
      @GinjaFajr Рік тому +10

      Glad they didn't. Was nice to have a normal dynamic for once.

    • @vlsay4what
      @vlsay4what Рік тому +1

      I think the expectations are different

  • @mayapotato8497
    @mayapotato8497 2 роки тому +41

    When they say something along the lines of “you’ll be happy as well as fulfilled with a hubby and a kid” they’re actually talking about themselves. They’re the ones who will be happy and fulfilled thinking that they were right and that they accomplished what they were meant to do in a way.
    But Imagine finding out that your mom never wanted to have you in the first place.
    This selfish wish… shouldn’t be forced on others.
    There are already enough kids in the world, why not adopt instead of adding to the number?
    Plus, it’s hard to raise another human being.

  • @emaan6891
    @emaan6891 3 роки тому +3229

    "Have one child just to experience it" stop. just stop.

    • @emaan6891
      @emaan6891 3 роки тому +93

      @DIEGO AGUIRRE huh

    • @ravenmwa8105
      @ravenmwa8105 3 роки тому +180

      @DIEGO AGUIRRE wdym lol? Experience to have a child so there must be a refund? 🙃

    • @stephenc2481
      @stephenc2481 3 роки тому +42

      the point is, for many, having a child is on the top of list of joy. But if you hate kids, it is not for you.

    • @ryuushi26
      @ryuushi26 3 роки тому +55

      Lol parents just raise kids to suffer

    • @madddiebwraps
      @madddiebwraps 3 роки тому +80

      @@stephenc2481 u dont have to hate kids to not want kids, some people just have other goals

  • @juliahoffman6787
    @juliahoffman6787 4 роки тому +4238

    “Who has the right to tell somebody this is what real womanhood and manhood is” really hit me

    • @johncrocker8927
      @johncrocker8927 4 роки тому +55

      Apparently the trans community.

    • @polin1710
      @polin1710 4 роки тому +108

      John Crocker that’s their gender identity they are not forcing gender roles

    • @Meccarox
      @Meccarox 4 роки тому +92

      @John Crocker
      Lol no... cis people are the ones trying to convince trans men and women that they're "not real men" or "not real women". Trans people aren't the ones telling cis people that their genders aren't real. It's literally the opposite.

    • @Ashely56
      @Ashely56 4 роки тому +4

      Ya her mom was pretty insightful

    • @Jakepf
      @Jakepf 4 роки тому +7

      @@johncrocker8927 omg I laughed my ass off reading this 😂😂

  • @lucymuxito
    @lucymuxito 2 роки тому +94

    13:17
    When she said 'children do better when a mom is at home and she takes on that traditional role', I-
    That really struck a nerve because my dad was barely at home, he cheated multiple times, he wouldn't know how to talk to me, he barely knew me. at home it was just me and my mum, occasionally my sister because she had already moved out, and from the age of about 5 to 11 I could not speak to anyone of the male species because I just didn't know how -like I was awkward AF. All of my primary school teachers were female (excluding maybe 1 or 2 but you wouldn't catch me putting my hand up in that class) we all believed that the opposite gender had cooties so we didn't interact with them etc.
    So I am a strong believer that kids NEED to have contact with a member of another gender regularly to feel comfortable in everyday life whether that be a member of their family, a family friend or even a just a teacher because otherwise their not gonna know how to deal with a lot of social situations.

    • @bmwjourdandunngoddess6024
      @bmwjourdandunngoddess6024 2 роки тому

      May I ask for your race? Black, White, Native, Asian??

    • @nailanoorein2086
      @nailanoorein2086 2 роки тому +9

      In my opinion,children do the best when both the father and mother are responsible with their roles

  • @VizzyDeluxe
    @VizzyDeluxe Рік тому +16

    When Annamarie started talking about her daughter being engaged, I teared up. I was so worried about disappointing people I actually went through it and was divorced soon after. I wish my parents had said something like that to me

  • @lvodniza
    @lvodniza 4 роки тому +1612

    “I got married at 23”
    “What do you know at 25?”

    • @iuxexe3299
      @iuxexe3299 4 роки тому +36

      Well they were raised back then to get a famiy and kids so..

    • @Lara-rr1vz
      @Lara-rr1vz 4 роки тому +18

      Yeah but then you learn together and GROW together... I think if it works, then it works and it can be a really healthy marriage.

    • @chaunnamichole944
      @chaunnamichole944 4 роки тому +36

      Yeah I caught the hypocrisy

    • @irenesavi8910
      @irenesavi8910 4 роки тому +24

      it's not hypocrisy at all. getting married and getting ur tubes tied are completely different things.

    • @lvodniza
      @lvodniza 4 роки тому +7

      Free Remi um, no. She said her mother tried hard to make her a super independent woman with a job and a degree

  • @emory7760
    @emory7760 3 роки тому +4491

    That white mom literally said that you need to have a child just to experience it but I don't think she realizes that you have to commit your entire life to that child even if you never even wanted it.

    • @tinahuttner7280
      @tinahuttner7280 3 роки тому +14

      Not much sence there😒

    • @EatWaterForTheWin
      @EatWaterForTheWin 3 роки тому +68

      @@tinahuttner7280
      And there isn’t much grammar in your sentence either 😌💅🏼

    • @tinahuttner7280
      @tinahuttner7280 3 роки тому +51

      @@EatWaterForTheWin I was just saying w the mom that’s has the pink shirt on, she doesn’t really have any sence in the fact she said “you just have to experience motherhood” you can’t just walk away from it.

    • @heyadora6207
      @heyadora6207 3 роки тому +43

      Exactly. It kinda seems like she’s not really a mom lol. Or her children are just angels. I think you should have kids if you truly want kids and you have the time and money for them, because they’re a huge commitment. Plus, some people don’t have the money or time for kids. That can lead to children being mistreated, left alone for long periods of time, not having a home or food, etc.

    • @tinahuttner7280
      @tinahuttner7280 3 роки тому

      @@heyadora6207 ha you think that girl is staging on being her daughter? That’s really pathetic if she is😒

  • @shannonsmit
    @shannonsmit 2 роки тому +54

    One of the biggest issues my mother and I had when I came out as a lesbian was that I would never carry her grandchildren.
    I was so upset, hurt and confused.
    I guess I understand where she's coming from as it's probably been one of her dreams for me, and I respect that, but it weighs so heavily on my shoulders. Even after 6 years of me being out (she's very accepting now and she's my number 1 supporter) I can't help feel extremely guilty for not following the life she wanted for me.
    This episode really helped me realize that I'm not alone, straight or not.

  • @ohyeamoe8430
    @ohyeamoe8430 3 роки тому +9

    I loooove Cassandras mom she’s so down to earth. I wish I would just have like breakfast and conversation to pluck her wisdom. This has been the warmest Middle Ground I’ve watched thus far. I can feel all the love and passion in the room.

  • @liaravid3643
    @liaravid3643 3 роки тому +12368

    "he doesn't do drugs, he doesn't gamble, he doesn't drink, he doesn't womanize.."
    the bear minimum to ask for in a partner 🤭

    • @boredshrimp9425
      @boredshrimp9425 3 роки тому +1096

      The bar is in hell

    • @nicolebadu2601
      @nicolebadu2601 3 роки тому +95

      @@boredshrimp9425 lmaoooo

    • @moealhakani7005
      @moealhakani7005 3 роки тому +298

      Not gambling, not drinking, no drugs is the bare minimum? Lmao...how many people can you name that seriously fits that description? Obviously, "he doesn't womanize" is an expectation...but the others?

    • @laiasofia2090
      @laiasofia2090 3 роки тому +185

      'look for the - bare necessities, the simple bare necessities...' haha

    • @acklesis
      @acklesis 3 роки тому +166

      @@moealhakani7005 how many men can you name that _do_ fit that description? 😳

  • @maurizstoddard3204
    @maurizstoddard3204 4 роки тому +4286

    That’s the most flexible Asian mom I’ve ever seen. WOW.

    • @alexandrucristian8797
      @alexandrucristian8797 4 роки тому +39

      Rarity

    • @donlim7934
      @donlim7934 4 роки тому +5

      Ikr

    • @mr5mirrors
      @mr5mirrors 4 роки тому +387

      My mom would act cool in front of other people but after that, I ain't got food for a week

    • @1tencatlady728
      @1tencatlady728 4 роки тому +31

      @@mr5mirrors that's mad 😭😂🙈sorry I had to laugh 🙊😝🙉

    • @maurizstoddard3204
      @maurizstoddard3204 4 роки тому +56

      Brian Abisdid not with that accent she’s not completely Americanized

  • @jellyelf6350
    @jellyelf6350 2 роки тому +42

    "If you're married you're committed to working through life together." Or you could get divorced. I think that marriage doesn't make you anymore committed in a relationship than just dating. My parents had me when they were still dating. I don’t think they were any less committed than my best friends parents because they weren’t married.

  • @Kayla-dy9pf
    @Kayla-dy9pf 2 роки тому +18

    “What do you know at 25” coming from the people who had kids before that age. What did you know? And you were raising children? I think knowing exactly what you want for yourself is empowering.

  • @luhe8
    @luhe8 4 роки тому +15639

    some parents: have a child! you need to eXpErIeNcE it you know
    also some parents: don't get tattoos! they are permanent, what if you regret them????

    • @ninawallen9039
      @ninawallen9039 4 роки тому +2200

      Tattoos: permanent, expensive, change your body
      Parents:❌
      Kids: permanent, expensive, change your body
      Parents:✅

    • @maitai8462
      @maitai8462 4 роки тому +227

      Tattoos arent permanent tho

    • @rainbowcloudz7672
      @rainbowcloudz7672 4 роки тому +103

      Like you can go over a tattoo or put a child in adoption if you cant look after it well

    • @JumugiDesunra
      @JumugiDesunra 4 роки тому +154

      Tattoo laser removal exists. It's just very expensive.

    • @samuelwheat4997
      @samuelwheat4997 4 роки тому +34

      I think it’s more a thing of child birth is natural while tattoos aren’t.

  • @belentatum43
    @belentatum43 4 роки тому +2581

    "What do you know when you're 25?"
    If that's the case why would you get married before 25??

    • @jug2024
      @jug2024 4 роки тому +71

      Exactly!!

    • @Haddy26
      @Haddy26 4 роки тому +15

      Yup!

    • @chanelsimone6072
      @chanelsimone6072 4 роки тому +92

      “And I oop “

    • @cruelmilo3132
      @cruelmilo3132 4 роки тому +1

      That's what she means

    • @Anastazka00
      @Anastazka00 4 роки тому +75

      U can find love, u can divorce, but u cannot desterilize. U can never change the decision. What Is so difficult to understand?

  • @putrirahmaasri6579
    @putrirahmaasri6579 3 роки тому +5

    The exchanges between all of them are my internal dialogue from time to time. Thanks Jubilee for raising this topic to discuss! I got the idea of how to start this kind of conversation with my parents.

  • @vickyherrera5717
    @vickyherrera5717 2 роки тому +9

    A child is not an "experience", you don't get to give it back or stop if you don't like it

  • @morganjohnson3238
    @morganjohnson3238 4 роки тому +3399

    Even if you get your tubes tied and regret your decision at 40 years old... then adopt! So many children need a mother right now, and are waiting to be adopted.

    • @Afrikas_Adventures
      @Afrikas_Adventures 4 роки тому +74

      foreign swagger session 🙏🏾

    • @mariac1984
      @mariac1984 4 роки тому +315

      @Loki Animations and I know plenty of family members who couldn't have kids and adopted and are AMAZING parents.

    • @Solidude4
      @Solidude4 4 роки тому +280

      @Loki Animations umm what? If an adoptive parent is abusive they'd still be abusive even with their own biological child. Your comment is irrelevant here.

    • @madisoncontroversial7348
      @madisoncontroversial7348 4 роки тому +11

      Loki Animations thank you adoption is not as great as it made out to be. Most foster kids don’t get into good homes. If they are, they are lucky

    • @ladynoluck
      @ladynoluck 4 роки тому +80

      Loki Animations Hello again, troll. Amazing how you always add unnecessary negative information and sweeping generalizations that only hurt the very people you are using as a prop in your trolling. Sad.

  • @katysamuelborgen5178
    @katysamuelborgen5178 4 роки тому +18273

    “Just have a child to experience it” oh okay and if I don’t like it, do I just return it??

    • @Konipaca
      @Konipaca 4 роки тому +935

      If you don't like it you commit a crime of killing it, duh

    • @khakis69
      @khakis69 4 роки тому +1797

      Lmao 😂
      Where's the receipt..?

    • @nishiprajapati2870
      @nishiprajapati2870 4 роки тому +914

      @Loki Animations yes because having children is the biggest contribution to society

    • @sherinel-ali9752
      @sherinel-ali9752 4 роки тому +63

      Katy Samuel Borgen girl I cant stress this enough !!!!!

    • @katysamuelborgen5178
      @katysamuelborgen5178 4 роки тому +624

      Loki Animations so because I don’t want a kid, I’m not contributing to society? Mhm interesting 🤔

  • @labete19
    @labete19 2 роки тому +2

    This was so insightful. I loved this episode. I can't wait till they make one for Dads vs Sons as it relates to super old school perspectives on marriage, livelihood, etc

  • @beccajj2323
    @beccajj2323 2 роки тому +13

    17:50 I might not agree with everything she said but she is an awesome mom. Made me tear up when she said that she would do anything to rescue her daughter.

  • @wus4723
    @wus4723 4 роки тому +3539

    It took me so long to realise Chelsie wasn’t Anne Marie’s daughter.

    • @MocaUniverse
      @MocaUniverse 4 роки тому +292

      Took me until the end of the video 😂😂😭

    • @mialaurens4890
      @mialaurens4890 4 роки тому +139

      Wait what?? Who's her kid?

    • @melanieaviles6735
      @melanieaviles6735 4 роки тому +66

      Wow. Most underrated comment. Lol

    • @ashleyjohnston7789
      @ashleyjohnston7789 4 роки тому +209

      Mia Laurens Her kid isn’t in the video, neither is Chelsie’s mom!

    • @queenb9905
      @queenb9905 4 роки тому +243

      I honestly thought they even looked related

  • @JupiterJones1996
    @JupiterJones1996 4 роки тому +25200

    Motherhood should be an extension of being a woman, not the definition.

  • @karenrosero2288
    @karenrosero2288 3 роки тому +19

    I'm 22 and grateful that my parents do not put any pressure on me that way. I think I've expressed my repulsion towards this whole "build a family" concept that I think they would be honestly surprised if I change my mind. They know just how much I hate the idea of having a partner and children.

  • @thescratkid7472
    @thescratkid7472 3 роки тому +22

    Annemarie’s husband watching her say that her making dinner might change: 👁👄👁

  • @michidaisydog1816
    @michidaisydog1816 4 роки тому +6563

    why do all these moms think that being a mom is part of being a woman? It's a choice not a requirement

    • @manyfrogs
      @manyfrogs 4 роки тому +397

      Generational expectations

    • @darling9577
      @darling9577 4 роки тому +38

      Omg ikr 😑

    • @manyfrogs
      @manyfrogs 4 роки тому +517

      @@caovuonglam not every woman has to give birth dumbass not every woman even can plus there's tons of kids in the foster care and adoption centers

    • @darling9577
      @darling9577 4 роки тому +135

      Vivian West I’m pretty sure not every single women in the world thinks the same way. For example these moms. Like calm down there are also women that want children 🙄😑

    • @petedavidson7003
      @petedavidson7003 4 роки тому +326

      Vivian West if you force people who don’t want kids to have kids you’re just gonna have a bunch of abandoned, sad children running around.

  • @themilfyway
    @themilfyway 4 роки тому +3628

    Am I the only one who hates the term social media "influencer"?

    • @shiriahrak5616
      @shiriahrak5616 4 роки тому +127

      Katelyn claire same it’s so annoying

    • @kaylamarshall8093
      @kaylamarshall8093 4 роки тому +34

      Well what would you call it

    • @themilfyway
      @themilfyway 4 роки тому +37

      @@kaylamarshall8093 maybe a social media guide or specialist?

    • @ene7065
      @ene7065 4 роки тому +115

      There's a lot of negative connotation to "social media influencer"
      Because many of these "influencers" only have around 2,000 followers and many who do have a big following feel entitled and popular.

    • @EttyMachete
      @EttyMachete 4 роки тому +5

      I wouldn't mind it if they included how many followers they have so you know if they actually have a following

  • @mercymsezeni838
    @mercymsezeni838 2 роки тому +2

    So heartwarming! Thankful for eye-opening conversations as these. I understand the mother's fears. As long as their choices are truly reflecting what they want AND not from fear.

  • @kalinavalcheva8149
    @kalinavalcheva8149 2 роки тому +12

    That was such a cute video. I honestly loved the moms. You can see the selflessness in all of them.

  • @aditirnair9735
    @aditirnair9735 3 роки тому +5486

    it took me 21 minutes and 39 seconds to realize that chelsea and anemarie arent mother and daughter :|

  • @dimatadore
    @dimatadore 4 роки тому +2562

    Anne Marie should not feel apologetic for her life. This is the whole point: you do what works for you. But don’t impose what works for you on someone else’s life.

    • @leahyeahnah6866
      @leahyeahnah6866 4 роки тому +134

      She shouldn't feel apologetic for her life, but I think she was belittling Afrika when she said she wanted to get her tubes tied.

    • @cookie1271
      @cookie1271 4 роки тому +12

      Luna Lovegood I mean, at 25 you really don’t know whether you want kids or not. She really wants her tubes tied so that she could have sex without worrying about pregnancy. But she doesn’t understand that the whole act of sex is to have child...

    • @angelp2033
      @angelp2033 4 роки тому +56

      @@cookie1271 the other act of sex if for enjoyment for both parties, so she she doesnt want a kid she could ya know fearlessly enjoy her partner's company

    • @zoekleinschmit2966
      @zoekleinschmit2966 4 роки тому +38

      Cookie Cookie I think she understands that if you want a child, the easiest way to do it is to have sex. But if AnneMarie made the extremely life shaping choice to have a kid at 24, than why should she belittle Afrika for tying her tubes at 26? It just seems like flawed, biased logic.

    • @jsonthomas8192
      @jsonthomas8192 4 роки тому +1

      @@zoekleinschmit2966 its not the easiest way its the way u meant to have kid animels do it to what kid are that live on after you die they are also their own person in a way u live on

  • @GlennsFastReviews
    @GlennsFastReviews 2 роки тому +4

    Thank you for this great episode. As a widower whose kids lost their mom while they were young, it was very touching to watch. I wish more mothers were as loving and patient as those three are!

  • @slangoognals
    @slangoognals 2 роки тому +6

    Having one kid "just to experience it" is a weird take. Take on this lifetime commitment just to satisfy curiosity??

  • @deethearies
    @deethearies 4 роки тому +2782

    “One child just to experience it” it’s as if she’s treating a child like sky diving or flying out of the country 🤨

    • @madalynmangold2376
      @madalynmangold2376 4 роки тому +107

      lol dei wtf exactly!! like how r u gonna just have a kid to experience it. what happens if u decide u don't like it then what happens. if u really want to start a family then do it cuz u want to.not because u need to experience it.🙃

    • @nazwiskoimie
      @nazwiskoimie 4 роки тому +52

      Omg EXACTLY! And if u decide that having a child is too much then what? Adoption? Not having a child is for sure better than giving it away... Child is not gonna be on this world for eg two years... This lady is crazy

    • @ughhhmcrbinch5583
      @ughhhmcrbinch5583 4 роки тому +5

      Why else would you have a kid?

    • @aquilaaltaire3007
      @aquilaaltaire3007 4 роки тому +10

      That's not what she meant. She meant it as an experience that women should all have, because she thinks it's so essential. I can tell she's a good mom. She didn't just give motherhood "a whirl". She committed because that's an experience worth commiting to! God you people.........

    • @kamarwashington
      @kamarwashington 4 роки тому

      lol dei wtf It’s natural for women to want to have children and start a family. They’re often far more happy doing things of that nature than joining the workforce for decades

  • @asby2154
    @asby2154 4 роки тому +36645

    There is nothing wrong living by traditional gender roles. However, there is something wrong with forcing those roles.

    • @frankiebrysonious9446
      @frankiebrysonious9446 4 роки тому +332

      YES

    • @Solidude4
      @Solidude4 4 роки тому +1524

      Yeah someone should have pointed this out to Annemarie. No-one is saying they're inherently bad, the issue is when they're constricting. If you love being a housewife that's great, but it shouldn't be expected of you.

    • @onedollarbleach6891
      @onedollarbleach6891 4 роки тому +541

      Additionally I think to live by traditional gender roles you don’t have to do everything to a T. You can live traditionally but it doesn’t have to be tradition always. I think couples should make whatever changes to gender roles as they see fit. It’s about what’s practical and what works for them.

    • @nikko999
      @nikko999 4 роки тому +29

      definitely

    • @blondetapperware8289
      @blondetapperware8289 4 роки тому +21

      Thank you

  • @brooklynadams4448
    @brooklynadams4448 Рік тому +4

    This is without a doubt my favorite episode of middle ground because everyone could find something that they could agree with and overall they respected each other ❤️❤️

  • @mignonne
    @mignonne 3 роки тому +18

    I'm an unmarried 34yo Asian daughter (who is very sure about not wanting kids and very ambivalent about the concept of marriage), and I am crying buckets. Just, buckets. I think I need to have this same conversation with my mother. Thank you for this.

    • @BaoLe-cw8ft
      @BaoLe-cw8ft Рік тому +3

      As an Asian also with catholic background, If i was you, my parents woulda told me to be a nun lol its stressful out here

  • @katdenning6535
    @katdenning6535 4 роки тому +12872

    Nobody should ever just have at least one child “to experience it”. Parenthood is a long-term commitment that completely changes your life.

    • @anthonyt425
      @anthonyt425 4 роки тому +909

      They made it sound like it was another toy or something to do for the sake of it. Yikes....

    • @krystalharris1259
      @krystalharris1259 4 роки тому +133

      That actually is interesting to me. I know a lot a lot of mothers parents fathers and children in the midwest where I live, at the age of 18 you need to be out of the house independent and on your own. It's a blessing that I'm still allowed to be in this house that I'm in. My mom could have kicked me out a long time ago would she is legally able to do yes, because I am over 18 and an adult legally. That's a scary realization that I had learned when I found out that legally, she did not have to take care of me anymore. So that took some gustel out of me and the things that I wanted to be.

    • @mistermistyeye9218
      @mistermistyeye9218 4 роки тому +193

      Like she really said that so confidently wtf 👀

    • @oskyluvr
      @oskyluvr 4 роки тому +233

      ikr it’s not like if you don’t like being a parent you can just get rid of the kid. I think you should think twice before having a kid, being a parent will change your life in so many ways

    • @luvmeany
      @luvmeany 4 роки тому +128

      I don't think she meant it quite like that. I mean obviously she raised 5 children, made some huge sacrifices for them, and apparently did a great job from the looks of her daughter in this video and the other one she discussed a little bit.
      I don't think she's minimizing the level of commitment it takes for a woman to be a mother. I think she's saying childbirth and motherhood is one of the heights of the female experience. Which it is if that's what a person wants. To be able to make that sacrifice of your time, your body, your priorities, the amount of love a mother has for her children is one that I don't think can be eclipsed by any other human connection.
      She wants that for her daughter. My mother wants that for me. And it can be hard for them to understand this generation of women who have more options and more freedom to say no to motherhood.

  • @Kat-hb5ie
    @Kat-hb5ie 4 роки тому +4725

    Can we just appreciate how supportive Afrika's mom was when she knew her daughter wanted to tie her tubes

    • @pandoreldr4232
      @pandoreldr4232 4 роки тому +84

      Kat Spratt if my daughter told me that I would also try to be soft about it to her because rebellious teens or adulteens will do the damn thing just to prove their point when you show you disagree

    • @quinnd115
      @quinnd115 4 роки тому +338

      Pandore LDR ol bro or maybe she was actually a good mother and was actually supportive of whatever she wanted to do. Instead of what you said and faking it so she doesn’t rebel. And bruh shes 26 not a teen. Lol

    • @37thraven
      @37thraven 4 роки тому +8

      @@pandoreldr4232 Yessss. Lol You're actually ready to be a parent, unlike all the philosophizers here (myself included). Respect + psychology right there

    • @wil1741
      @wil1741 4 роки тому +50

      I wanna tie my tubes too tbh.

    • @joelle3273
      @joelle3273 4 роки тому +65

      Pandore LDR, oooor you could just respect her decision. once you turn 18 (at least where i live) you’re an adult, and are allowed to do what YOU really wanna do

  • @karmaoutlaw
    @karmaoutlaw Рік тому +1

    Fantastic job, all! Feels like we know these things intrinsically, but need to hear them spoken aloud. 🙏

  • @sk8ergal291
    @sk8ergal291 Рік тому +1

    its so beautiful to see all you women talking about your personal experiences on the topic.

  • @nikitaheredia416
    @nikitaheredia416 4 роки тому +1866

    No, marriage is not necessary. Our lives our rules.

    • @yuki_eerhs4591
      @yuki_eerhs4591 4 роки тому +34

      Besides there is other options then marriage like civil partnership and stuff. Which all comes down to individual choice.

    • @nanavrrse
      @nanavrrse 3 роки тому +24

      exactly, you don’t need to get married

    • @ruhaanchopra8878
      @ruhaanchopra8878 3 роки тому +26

      @SAMURAI 武士 wtf where did propaganda come from?

    • @soft.horror
      @soft.horror 3 роки тому +15

      @SAMURAI 武士 ok boomer

    • @vroomvrommgrrr6950
      @vroomvrommgrrr6950 3 роки тому +17

      @Alex Dighton"Gender steriotypes formed due to men and womens gereral desires."
      mmmmh, no. Nowadays, gender roles are just a remanant of religion. Which came from tribal societies.
      We don't live in tribes anymore. Humanity has secured food and succeeded in creating an environment where we no longer have to *survive*. So, we don't need gender roles anymore.
      "Men find happyness in providing for the family and women for care for the family."
      There are more than a few exepctions to your rule. Especially on the woman part. It's simply extremly disadvantagious for her.
      Gender roles don't work for anyone. The best is to let people make their own decisions.

  • @katriellynn7260
    @katriellynn7260 4 роки тому +18013

    It really frustrates me when people associate being a mother with carrying a child. There are other options to being a mother besides experiencing pregnancy. Also, a child is a choice. Not a requirement.

    • @lisacox3750
      @lisacox3750 4 роки тому +327

      I absolutely agree.

    • @Oyama_
      @Oyama_ 4 роки тому +203

      I totally agree...

    • @jirahjashmiermacalino7556
      @jirahjashmiermacalino7556 4 роки тому +181

      I strongly agree

    • @mariafausti3128
      @mariafausti3128 4 роки тому +313

      Yeah one thing is being a mother, a kind caring figure that supports you no matter what and will guide you through life like a good parent, and the other is being pregnant for 9months

    • @lucy4906
      @lucy4906 4 роки тому +61

      I agree, but I don't think there's anything wrong with what that woman said about gender roles - I mean she obviously had a positive experience with it and our opinions are based on our experiences so

  • @haleyseikaly5121
    @haleyseikaly5121 Рік тому +3

    this video was so beautiful to me, especially when Chelsea said she felt like she owed her mother a grandchild because of all the sacrifices she made for her like you could really feel the love she had for her mother. just watching these women speak to each other and about other women in their life with such understanding and care and empathy was really beautiful, even the way they're looking at each other like this is one of my favorite middle ground videos

  • @anmahek
    @anmahek 10 місяців тому +1

    This was a really beautiful. I was surprised by the understanding and supportive communication. Really loved it.

  • @livsmakeupchannel4944
    @livsmakeupchannel4944 4 роки тому +6401

    I think a “Body hair positive” women vs “women who believe hair removal is important” video would be really interesting!

    • @starbernard6166
      @starbernard6166 4 роки тому +36

      Liv’s Makeup Channel YES!!

    • @PriusRaj
      @PriusRaj 4 роки тому +526

      I think they're both crazy tbh. There is nothing important about removing hair, but there's also nothing beautiful about armpit hair.
      Just let people live without making it into a Deal.

    • @user-bd9sf9qz2i
      @user-bd9sf9qz2i 4 роки тому +41

      PriusRaj yes😂

    • @sowhatandisaidhi2235
      @sowhatandisaidhi2235 4 роки тому +149

      i dont think it would be much of a debate unless they would talk about bodies in general (self esteem, body image, etc) otherwise the video wouldnt be very worthwhile

    • @rainecolubio
      @rainecolubio 4 роки тому +71

      Huh. I'm in the middle. In some areas of my body, for example my lower legs and armpits, I prefer to be hairless. But I don't really mind having hair on my arms and upper legs.... and mind you, I'm hairy as heck. Look at my eyebrows.

  • @dachun9485
    @dachun9485 4 роки тому +3482

    Afrika’s voice should replace siri. Way to calm.

  • @natashamerline
    @natashamerline 2 роки тому +1

    All these points are so so valid. Every different perspective is valuable. ❤️ Thank you for bringing such diverse individuals together.

  • @emilyhedrick2851
    @emilyhedrick2851 2 роки тому +57

    All things considered, I would rather regret not having kids than regret having kids. Other reasons I don't want to have kids include:
    1.Worries about overpopulation.
    2.Worries about developing postpartum depression.
    3.Worries about passing my heredity mental illness down to my kids.
    4.The world's a scary place for kids.
    5.I need to be able to take care of myself before I take care of anybody else.
    6.I'm nineteen, there shouldn't be any rush or pressure.

    • @djsjajjsjs168
      @djsjajjsjs168 Рік тому +3

      Young lady, i too am 19 and i agree with your points, i wouldn't want my firstborn to end up with birth defects or severe autism

  • @user-kq6ku6qu9z
    @user-kq6ku6qu9z 4 роки тому +2981

    When afrika's mum was saying that a man could cook, afrika looked so prouddd

    • @blaqgirlssss
      @blaqgirlssss 3 роки тому +42

      My dad doesn’t because he works overnight while my mom works in the day so she cooks, but my dad does know how to make dinner cooking should be for everyone

    • @fragaria.vesca12
      @fragaria.vesca12 3 роки тому +19

      Wait. Actual loving family???? What's thattttttt

    • @zeo1128
      @zeo1128 3 роки тому +12

      Like she's so proud of her mum, she just listens for she already knew her mum is expected to speak volume ❤❤❤

    • @TJ_Reactz
      @TJ_Reactz 3 роки тому +6

      i wish I knew how to cook my parents taught my sisters to cook, when my sister was my age she was making food for me and I don't even know how to boil an egg

    • @summert1251
      @summert1251 3 роки тому

      Frrr I saw that

  • @brennamartin3145
    @brennamartin3145 4 роки тому +2670

    being a mom and wife are things you can do as a women, not your sole purpose as a women.

    • @ZayingIt
      @ZayingIt 4 роки тому +68

      couldn’t agree with you more!

    • @idannasortino6734
      @idannasortino6734 4 роки тому +57

      That can be true for some however, I know for myself my dream has always been to be a mother and wife!

    • @JayneAngelinaSkye
      @JayneAngelinaSkye 4 роки тому +5

      amennnn

    •  4 роки тому +12

      Idanna Sortino so sad. Is that why you got a nose job? Your kids WILL inherit your old, REAL nose 😭

    • @carolmg.96
      @carolmg.96 4 роки тому +76

      @@idannasortino6734 that's valid! you can be a mother and a wife if that's your dream because it's something you want, as opposed of that being something you have to do just because you're a woman.
      Also, ignore the comments like the one before mine.

  • @aqbhawkins28
    @aqbhawkins28 Рік тому +1

    I love this group hearing the conversation and I still enjoy how it ended