Do Narcissists ever really listen?

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  • Опубліковано 13 чер 2024
  • This video looks at the concept of why many narcissistic people don't seem to listen to others, even those closest to them. Through maladaptive defence mechanisms aimed at protecting a false and fragile sense of self many narcissists never seem to listen to the point where they seem to reject reality.
    They often display poor listening skills, gaslight others, engage in reactive abuse and don't accept responsibility for their actions.
    However there is also an other element of listening, more associated with dark personality types and dark empaths where they do listen, but not quite the the way or for the reasons you might think.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 141

  • @DarrenFMagee
    @DarrenFMagee  Рік тому +19

    Please feel free to suggest any topics you might like me to cover in future videos

    • @Misselise84
      @Misselise84 Рік тому +4

      I'm not sure if you already made a video about this topic, but I would like one on copying behavior when growing up with a narcissistic parent. Does it make you a narcissist as well?

    • @ApocalypseofMichael
      @ApocalypseofMichael Рік тому +5

      Spectrum of psychopathy being in society not just those extreme in prison for murder etc. I see them everywhere now. Narcissistic personalities are a spectrum of psychopathy but hardly anyone, psychologists included seem to see the reality of this. More needs to be know widely and publicly to help those who the Dark spectrum love to feast upon, to help those in positions of trust, in institutions to identify predators seeking/abusing victims.
      Thanks for what you do chap. Continued success in being you good man.

    • @lifecoloursviralot
      @lifecoloursviralot Рік тому

      A humble question , Sir Darren are you living alone life not with your family ?

    • @SueDenimDomDenim
      @SueDenimDomDenim Рік тому +1

      Tips on divorcing a narcissist and how to have effective communication

    • @katiedid9601
      @katiedid9601 Рік тому +1

      @@missliberty10 yes… and dealing with guilt on being no contact - after YEARS of trying to have a decent relationship- with a NPD elderly parent.

  • @biondna7984
    @biondna7984 Рік тому +66

    Was married 24 years to a victim-narcissist. 17 years after the divorce, he still blames me for everything. Nothing was ever his responsibility. SO glad I got away.

    • @lolo9553ify
      @lolo9553ify Рік тому +10

      I am at the end of 23 years of a relationship with a victim narcissist. They can have their sob stories but they can't have us anymore. It's never too late to save yourself. I'm happy for you and for me.

    • @Andrea-ct6fx
      @Andrea-ct6fx Рік тому +10

      I’m shocked people can stay married to narcs for years., i can’t imagine or don’t want to. I left my narc husband 10 months after the wedding. We were together 3 years prior though. I didn’t know it was a narcissist I was dealing with but I knew the way I was feeling was extremely disrespectful and unpleasant and went against my grain. Unfortunately, I have a child with him so I have to interact with him at times. Grey rocking has been my saving grace in order to keep my peace.

    • @christie883
      @christie883 Рік тому

      Well done!!! 🧡

    • @KoolT
      @KoolT Рік тому +2

      Hugs

    • @diannadorn9719
      @diannadorn9719 Рік тому +2

      I was marred 26 years to a covert narcissist. I had no idea what I was up against until last summer by then I was done with him anyway. I was so unhappy. After he retired he got worse and I just couldn't take anymore. I'm much happier now.

  • @llkellenba
    @llkellenba Рік тому +37

    Love how they’re sensitive to criticism BUT more than happy to dish it out in relentless heavy doses!

  • @TFFgeek
    @TFFgeek Рік тому +37

    They remember what they can use against you. To the detail.

  • @notagain779
    @notagain779 Рік тому +68

    Truth and fairness mean nothing to them.

    • @letym2271
      @letym2271 Рік тому +1

      Only when it's not them who did wrong. Otherwise they will quak about how honesty is so important. 🙄 And "punish" others by being deceiving to them and bringing them to justice with the same deception, as if they were a juror.
      At least that was my experience. He would condemn people who cheated and even manipulated them into a trap so they would get found out but then HE cheated. And instead of coming up front as he always quacked about, he hid, pushed it under the rug and blame shifted. He also enabled a wife cheating on his husband prior to that but hey, they think of themselves perfect.

    • @notagain779
      @notagain779 Рік тому +6

      @@letym2271 , Yes. They have double standards.

    • @marionbrunn3022
      @marionbrunn3022 Рік тому +4

      @@notagain779They also have double life.

    • @bereal6590
      @bereal6590 23 дні тому +2

      They only do their truth, and fairness is only for them. That's my experience

  • @llkellenba
    @llkellenba Рік тому +13

    They don’t CARE what you say, feel or want.

    • @llkellenba
      @llkellenba Рік тому +2

      @@relied7934 well said and I’ve been run through that maze more than once. Getting out is challenging. Especially as you know there are always things or people to lose, and these personalities WILL almost certainly blow everything up possible when they realize you are on your way out to cover themselves/ego/image - bonus that they will hurt you. Some more.

  • @izawaniek2568
    @izawaniek2568 Рік тому +27

    You have named it all perfectly. Narcisists enjoy basking in dark negative evil energy and want to drag others into their vicious false reality. Thank you Darren.

    • @strangemusic100
      @strangemusic100 Рік тому +3

      Living in that dark negative evil energy presently.... fighting as hard as I can to get out, but she purposefully makes it one of the hardest things to go through to date... child and both names on mortgage mixed with the crazy making has been a uphill battle to say the least...

  • @katiedid9601
    @katiedid9601 Рік тому +26

    You have described my elderly narc mom. It is so frustrating because our interactions are always like this. She says she yearns for “conversations” …. But all she wants to do is wallow, criticize, and complain. It is crazy making. I’m basically no or almost no contact with her because she was sucking all my energy. Thank you sir!

  • @maryjopling5952
    @maryjopling5952 Рік тому +10

    I've seen the sparkle in his eyes and the smirk. Glad I'm free of that nightmare

  • @grantaugustyniak6667
    @grantaugustyniak6667 Рік тому +22

    Don’t be fooled - they hear everything you say . In fact - they’re probably recording it.

    • @Daytonaman675
      @Daytonaman675 11 місяців тому

      Never even thought that would be a thing but my wife has proven I never knew her in our marriage

  • @dubliner1303
    @dubliner1303 Рік тому +16

    The fact that they regurgitate something you said that was so insignificant at the time or pull up a message months/ years later should confirm that yes they really do listen.

  • @waynec369
    @waynec369 Рік тому +35

    No. They don't. And, if you pay close enough attention, you can see on their face the instant they tune you out during 'conversation'. I have even stated to them, "You're not listening to me," and they don't even hear that. They are laser focused on a lull in my speech so they can butt in and take over the conversation.

    • @shelley7975
      @shelley7975 Рік тому +1

      I've been there way too many times to count. They don't listen because they know everything and you disrupt their fake world. There is no conversing with a narcissist.

    • @lesliedefilippis2150
      @lesliedefilippis2150 Рік тому +8

      Yep!!! I see this anytime I am speaking. I am just making a conversation. Nothing in the least critical. But he just stares into space. He just zones out. I have gotten to the point I just do not attempt to communicate. Married 51 years.

    • @Queenoftherats11
      @Queenoftherats11 Рік тому

      It's too bad I started no contact the hour I realized what my Nex was. I would of loved to study that fascinating monster specimen and to see his reactions in the flesh ooof. Almost makes me drool lol. They think they're so smart and its no holds barred for them, but this is just their delusion talking. Wow. They are about as complex as an ant and as deep as a tide pool.

    • @KristaBear
      @KristaBear 11 місяців тому +2

      My sister and mother look bored whenever I talk. So, when they talk, I review my grocery list in my head, or fake a phone call to get out of talking.

    • @waynec369
      @waynec369 11 місяців тому +2

      @KristaBear that's quite common among narcissists. They really and truly aren't interested in what you have to say unless they are fishing for information to use against you later. Which usually happens early in a relationship, or just after some dramatic event took place. Oft times, they will interrupt you. When you notice this, simply try clamming up and say little to nothing from that point forward. You will discover that it drives the newly acquainted narcissist crazy. You will know this when they remark how quiet you are and that you never speak. They don't know what to do and will distance themselves from you unless, or until, they need something from you.

  • @michelelangford633
    @michelelangford633 Рік тому +15

    My husband has expanded on this theme and says Pardon to ‘everything I say so I have to repeat myself but nobody else has a problem with the strength of my voice. I know damn well he can hear me. Another tactic to diminish and to shut down any spontaneous expression. As much as possible I won’t repeat myself.

    • @lorinotarius
      @lorinotarius Рік тому +2

      Oh, they love this!!! They love to see you get frustrated and know that they had control over your emotions. Here's the thing though, I've seen one of them through old age and while they start by pretending they don't hear you or understand, if they do that long enough, karma takes over, they get dementia, and they REALLY don't understand. And if you stay married to him, you'll be obligated to be his unpaid caregiver as he descends through madness counting backwards on the dementia scale from 30 to zero, until death. It's like that book or fable when you were a child, "Don't make that face, your face will freeze that way." They make the face by gaslighting for decades that they don't hear or understand you, and then suddenly, they don't know the truth themselves. They froze in their terrorizing others and now they really don't know what words mean and they don't hear language. Watch it play out over time and report back here if you feel like it...I'm so curious if this happens this way for others.

    • @KristaBear
      @KristaBear 11 місяців тому

      Since he cant "hear" you, you should suggest to him that he needs a hearing aid lol

    • @antheredhen
      @antheredhen 10 місяців тому

      Ya, I just say never mind..

    • @antheredhen
      @antheredhen 10 місяців тому

      ​@@lorinotariusyou know I've been starting to think something similar.. I've noticed people who complain about certain behaviors of others later they start the same behaviors..

  • @DA-ee1xi
    @DA-ee1xi Рік тому +9

    Yes and this is why I am quite horrified at the speed at which A.I. is being developed and deployed because the future looks bleak if we have to deal with real life Terminators, on top of all the flesh and blood ones we already have in increasing numbers.

    • @llkellenba
      @llkellenba Рік тому

      Yes that is nerve wracking for certain…given human nature

  • @kathleenbristol6747
    @kathleenbristol6747 Рік тому +20

    My husband narc. is 100% like what was said. I have seen him smirk several times in the past,brought it to his attention,now it's been silent treatments.

    • @wendysimpson6395
      @wendysimpson6395 Рік тому +2

      That sick smirk. I remember it well.

    • @cynthiafortier2540
      @cynthiafortier2540 Рік тому +2

      Enjoy the peace and quiet. My favorite narc tool.

    • @antheredhen
      @antheredhen 10 місяців тому +1

      Funny my husband bitches about his sibling and mom doing the silent treatment yet he does the same thing..

  • @neounicorn2023
    @neounicorn2023 Рік тому +12

    The smirk in their eyes. Exactly

    • @mirrorgt908
      @mirrorgt908 5 місяців тому +1

      Yes, I met with an ex from when I was 14 and I saw the Smirk in his eye. I've never seen any other human with the expression on their face. Literally 16 years later, he's shown way to many signs 😮 . I stopped talking to him. But man, it scares me to ever run into him.

    • @neounicorn2023
      @neounicorn2023 5 місяців тому

      @@mirrorgt908 don’t be afraid, they are little cowards, and since you understood what he is and exposed him, he’s the one who should be afraid

  • @ApocalypseofMichael
    @ApocalypseofMichael Рік тому +9

    As a child I was abused by three dark tetrads. The primary was a female and she had a minion, the 2nd and unknowingly my friend was the third and got from me all my fears at what they could do and what I was afraid of the most. They teamed up together to exact my fears upon me. So extreme and violent was it that I would pass out in fear or suffocation, rape and much much worse to the point I had memory loss... All I could remember as an adult was the second abuser, a snap shot of him telling me not to look at/ plead with him to not make me... while my two hand were holding him.
    40 later when I met a great guy that made himself my new bestie, love bombed, listened so carefully and seemed to be just like me and my interests, never a truer friend. When I was of the opinion that he was the greatest person I'd ever met, he began to change a full 180 in how he treat me. Covid came with its masks and my breathing would be severely affected, fear would rise and take hold of my mind and my body would be reacting to extreme fear of immediate life threatening danger, then boom, the memories downloaded to my consciousness again (it took six months solids of them coming out individually day after day, night after night relentlessly) and that new friend, was my old friend the third abuser, the woman was my sister and the third was dead. I told them both that I suspected I had memory loss from abuse. They had then convinced everyone, parents, friends and family that I was crazy. My sister triggered me, then before I knew I had reacted, I sent my parents a garble of 14 voice messages containing emotional outbursts of fear, anger, grief, fear telling them what she did, had done to me by those other two while expressing profanity and disbelief at them choosing to not believe me while accepting my sister's story. They had me arrested for harassment. No charges brought but the police were terrible.
    My entire understanding of who I am has changed, I have left all of my friends who don't believe me (3 left) my relationship with my parents in practically none existent compared to before, I have no trust but I won't change it. It is much more important that I now know what happened to me, why I have lived a life of fear, depression and an overwhelming sense of fear, dread and paranoia of being attacked, kidnapped, beaten, raped and murdered. My body remembered even though my mind didn't. I had one course of therapy and I'm in my second course with another therapist, they are a God send, I really fear for how things may have been with out and avenue of expression. I'm in a much better place as I have identified why the connections to how I've been with the specific cases of abuse. They were determined to ruin my life, and they did for the most part but now I becoming the person I should always have been, and already am in some ways. I'm good and moving forward. Not that I'm not at times lost in fantasies of justice and stuck in rage for what they've done but working on it and through it. I will succeed, I am succeeding in being and become the best of me, for me.
    I wish more people knew of "Dark spectrum" types. Thanks for sharing.

  • @harmonizedigital.
    @harmonizedigital. Рік тому +4

    When a narcissist shows appreciation it is like they just read how to do it from a step by step book. my sister sent me an email once that said "Here is an email with a picture of your gift and me a appreciating it" like conehead talk

  • @marionbrunn3022
    @marionbrunn3022 Рік тому +6

    They are using your weak points against you. Their behavior goes in circles and continuously repeating. When you need them they will disappear, when they can use you they are back. I could write a book about this man.

    • @pinapple60
      @pinapple60 7 місяців тому

      Spot on, whenever I have a crisis like hospital as I have some pretty bad health issues that were mild before I met mine 11 years ago or other crisis things where I desperately need his support he will say “well I’m down here 75 miles away “ I can’t help that what do you expect me to do “.
      But he often asks even demands my help for himself and his brother for much minor things and gets very frustrated if I don’t sort it out immediately even when he knows I’m to ill at that time, it’s crazy I feel completely neglected,
      The literately have to take care of him and myself even when he is fit and well and I’m genuinely ill,
      I have M.E. I had 7 years of seizures I had never had before him I think because he just burned me out with demands for him and his brother, driving my partner everywhere as he doesn’t drive even when I had pneumonia cooking, sorting and legal stuff to help him and his brother save their house when their Mother died, his brother with complex needs and learning difficulties, this started within three weeks of knowing them!
      They are 57 and 60 6”3 and 6”2 big framed strong men and I’m 63 5’3”. Slime built and nowhere near as strong as them it sickens me how very strong domineering alpha males can be so oblivious to the suffering they can cause it’s like two children in grown men’s bodies!
      My 31 year old Son is so much emotionally mature than them unfortunately he lives in Australia me in the UK but I’m lucky enough to have my two daughters here who are both mature compassionate intelligent girls like their brother.
      I truly believe these types go for the soft targets probably wouldn’t dream of targeting someone like themselves,
      Also it’s true they are super sensitive to any criticism usually constructive and not even that it’s like they read so much as criticism when it’s not and react in such a volatile way yet they are ruthless in their judgement of others friends and family of theirs who have done nothing to them just because maybe they don’t reply to phone calls or messages quick enough or such minor things where most of us just accept those people are just simply very busy with work, family or possibly ill they don’t seem to make allowances even when I explain.
      Note neither of them work my partner for 30 years and his brother worked a total of 5 years he’s 60!
      My partner says he never wants to work for someone else as when he did he would fall out with them and walk out!
      They both served prison sentences my partner 7.1/2 years different sentences his brother 13 years different sentences for robberies mainly safe cracking and smash & grabs also organising illegal raves and drug dealing ,
      Even though they are crime free for years they are very hard in their attitudes but love to talk about their sob sob stories about their terrible lives and how they have suffered so much especially in prison and that they never hurt anyone!
      They complain about our country and government how they don’t do enough they act so entitled and deserving it’s sickening and often talk about revenge and violent acts against people even the ones that haven’t really done them any harm!
      I however have had a lifetime of trauma the worst kind have worked hard had loads of hobbies and interests including health interests.
      I will drop everything to be there for anyone at my own expense but I am not hateful, revengeful if anything my own trauma has taught me to be compassionate and understanding so for me I really stand to get my head around how they view things.

  • @Craigdna
    @Craigdna Рік тому +5

    Thanks again Darren for another in depth analysis of narcissism. Every aspect of our inability to understand other people as a consequence of their behaviors stem from our ignornce of the functions of the brain. ,all over take credit for what it provides for them, but ignore it when it comes down it its impairment on an individual level, and in group dynamics. Attention span, judgement, introspect, retrospect, empathy, ability to see oneself obectively, learning from mistakes, learning from experience, perseverance, tolerance, impulse control, ability to feel and express our emotions, and forward thinking, are all characteristic traits of functionality of the prefrontal cortex. These traits are signicantly near absent, or dysfunctional in a narcissist. To me, that means that narcissism is serious dysfunction in the prefrontal cortex. In turn, in my opinion, this means that narcissism can occur in all pathways that lead to dysfunction in the prefrontal cortex. This includes various metal toxicities that occur in the brain as well as well as other toxins from pesticies, fungicides, herbicides, cookware, industrial type pollutants, and varioius types of foods in consumed in regularity, as well as drugs, alcohol, marijuana, and certain pharmaceutical drugs. A person is not fully myelinated in the prefrontal cortex until age 25. We also have learned in science, that the ingredients that are critical for myelination can be used for immune system support, especially in chelating out ingredients that do not belong in the body and brain. This implies that there is an opportunity cost for exposure to pollutants, drugs, alcohol, poor diets, pesticides, etc.., which is our myeliniation processes in the brain. Since the prefrontal cortex is the last region of the brain to become fully myelinated, it is last priority when it comoes to the brains health and development. My point in this is that the stage is set for narcissism (prefrontal cortex dysfunction), as it is last priority foor nutrient uptake, and our exposure to more toxic comoponents in our environment, increase it's prevalency as well. Thanks for sharing your work and insghts, Darren.

  • @203blessings
    @203blessings Рік тому +8

    With the Terminator comparison. In that movie when the machine says "I love you too sweetheart". It's like that, certain things some people say can send a shiver through the body. It's like the body feels the intention

    • @Queenoftherats11
      @Queenoftherats11 Рік тому

      This comment is so creepy to me because I remember watching terminator with Nex and he kept on relaying his childhood and placed himself so heavily upon it. Also one of his names he used to go by was machine. Yes, our psyche is crying out for help

    • @leonieschultz3017
      @leonieschultz3017 Рік тому

      What is an Empath personality like and why do they suffer anxiety

    • @203blessings
      @203blessings Рік тому

      @@leonieschultz3017 there's a video
      ( Oreo "train" commercial ). On UA-cam. Kids handing out cookies to adults on train.
      Kids trained. It might cause trigger a trauma response

  • @pete2784
    @pete2784 Рік тому +14

    I have experienced this with my wife many, many times. It kills just about every point I'm trying to make to her, as it always veers off to an explanation frenzy, as if I never could explain what I actually mean. I have doubted my communication skills, but seems very OK at work, with new people I meet or old friends, so why on earth my wife never understands, and even more, the other she told me that I have never understood her position in the course of our marriage that for the record passed 25 years couple of years ago. I found that stunning, completely taken off guard, and she would claim that she means it. Another point you made was about the listening and observing and learning in the beginning. I found it absolutely shocking, when she said during the first years of our relationship: "I like what you like and I go where you go." I went like, no, no one does that, that's crazy, but she insisted, yet, it was not the end, later she would start to criticize me for my hobbies, choices, friends, my ways of acting, things I had to tolerate and I was demanded to attend to, of course, under the banner of mutual respect and understanding. I later realized that she did not mean it to go both ways, and that she never meant it with the I like what you like. Later, her message was, you understand that not every person is interested in same things, and she especially used to say this loud when our children listened, and effectively isolated me from them, with nurturing hobbies they and she had in common like knitting, cooking or make-up. I could go on and on..

    • @wakeup555
      @wakeup555 Рік тому +1

      25 totally F’n waisted years you will never get back. Sorry

    • @uraoshi
      @uraoshi Рік тому

      @@wakeup555 he got back his soul, for now

  • @heathermixson1265
    @heathermixson1265 Рік тому +11

    Oh they listen....to the nasty voices in their own mind.....totally diabolical.
    Thanks Darren!!!
    **I laughed at this title because they only hear the darkness **

  • @singstreetcar5881
    @singstreetcar5881 Рік тому +5

    They want u to scream so people would think ur crazy

  • @Rowganlife
    @Rowganlife 29 днів тому +2

    feeding off of my frustrations....pretending she doesnt know that we have already gone over this problem 50 times ,as if i hadnt ALREADY explained and tried to help her understand my POV...

  • @davidthomspson9771
    @davidthomspson9771 Рік тому +3

    No.....unless it benefits them or gives them something to keep you down.

  • @theshelbypalace
    @theshelbypalace Рік тому +7

    omg this is soooooooo crazy!! My ex literally did all these things. makes me feel sooo sad :(

  • @Alice-sw9hf
    @Alice-sw9hf 7 місяців тому +3

    Going 'Grey Rock' with my ex alcoholic narc worked a treat. I started to copy his behaviour at times and he didnt like it one bit. I could see his confusion when I stopped caring, refused sex and money and generally ignored him like he ignored me. Finally threw him out, 3 years of freedom so far. Never look back.

  • @writer1986
    @writer1986 Рік тому +4

    My husband's narcissistic SIL doesn't talk to me (I've been given the silent treatment since I first met the family), but she listens when I'm talking to others, and then she'll use my words in our group texts and when she's trying to convince my in-laws that she's a "great" person. I find this to be very insulting and deceiving because I've been observing her character, and she is the complete opposite of me. So now I don't talk much around her, that way she can't continue to learn/fake how to be a healthy person.

  • @idyafia1285
    @idyafia1285 8 місяців тому +3

    Thank you Mr Darren. It’s a dark place to be.

  • @le_th_
    @le_th_ 11 місяців тому +3

    They listen intently...to data mine information...so they can more easily find out what you value and gain your trust.
    Don't be full by their "respectful" listening. They're being quiet so THEY don't say the wrong thing, not because they're interested in what you have to say. They're forming a data base so they know how to gain your trust...so they can smash that trust into dust when they're ready.

  • @niccic.
    @niccic. Рік тому +4

    I am finding that The Person imitates me. Just as what you are saying. The Person uses exact phrases that I have said back on me. And I say, "You got that from me, of how I was describing you." The Person just stares at me with that 1000 mile stare. It's so much fun (jk). I really enjoy The Person lamenting about how terrible their life is--having to deal with a person like me. Wow. Oh and by the way Great Video!

  • @poison_plays
    @poison_plays 7 місяців тому

    Thank you so much for calling out “That’s not what you said ten years ago” as a form of gaslighting. My ex likes to claim I neglected, abandoned and abused her because, after years of worsening neglect and abuse from her, I changed my mind about a fanciful promise I made in the first year of our relationship that I’d take care of her financially forever. She won’t accept that I have a right to change my mind, especially after having been abused by her and becoming afraid of her. I have little contact with her these days, but I have no doubt she’s still using that to smear me behind my back. It’s very soothing and reassuring to know an expert agrees I’m not off base in feeling that’s abusive behaviour on her part, to still expect be to live up to a promise made a decade before we broke up, or before I became terribly afraid of her. Thank you.

  • @reneec2583
    @reneec2583 Рік тому +3

    OMGosh,... put a gold frame around this video! It's like you've been sitting in my front room writing down what's been happening. Thank you for the validation. I'll be sure to save this video, as I have with many others, so I can put it on repeat. Thank you for covering this topic, and Thank you for your channel.

  • @autumnsmith3585
    @autumnsmith3585 Рік тому +5

    The most effective way to Not be wrong is to know facts and to have good moral discernment, Not try to bolster your point with crazy talk.

  • @psychedelictechno2458
    @psychedelictechno2458 Рік тому +2

    Best excellent video on narcissism.👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻👌🏻👌🏻

  • @aquageraniablue6990
    @aquageraniablue6990 9 місяців тому +1

    My narc mum was proud of her method of "switching off" as she called it. She would then ignore us indefinitely. Three little kids crying or fighting with each other she just acted like a mannequin. I remember being 6 years old feeling distressed listening to my newborn sister crying alone in her bed. I knew she needed to be picked up and loved and I told mum but she just sat calmly in her chair, undisturbed by the screaming newborn, and told me "babies needed to exercise their lungs". I knew it was crap even then. Thank god I never let my babies cry alone.😢

  • @singstreetcar5881
    @singstreetcar5881 Рік тому +3

    Anything u say will be used against u

  • @BrettBurnell
    @BrettBurnell Рік тому +4

    Excited to see this as my ex-wife had BPD and could’ve been NPD for all I know!

  • @diannadorn9719
    @diannadorn9719 Рік тому +2

    I know my x- husband was listening because after I filed for divorce he started doing all the things I wanted him to do. Help out around the house and yard, clean up after himself, ( I'm not his made or his mother) take showers throughout the week not once or twice a month. Nobody wants to hug a greasy guy. I already had enough to do. In the end all I was to him is a live in made. If I asked for anything he would look at me with contempt or tell me to stop bossing him around.

  • @heathermixson1265
    @heathermixson1265 Рік тому +8

    They listen so they can throw things back in your face, smear you with, and hold you in contempt for....I'm just thankful these people aren't my Judge for the Eternity. Praise Jesus!!!!
    Sadly, they don't have their own life, so to speak......they are true chameleons.

  • @HomeFrendsten
    @HomeFrendsten 11 місяців тому +2

    They don't value our words and actions

  • @shannonjones7890
    @shannonjones7890 Рік тому +5

    so helpful

  • @bereal6590
    @bereal6590 23 дні тому +1

    Nonsensical reasoning, oh yeah!!! Whilst picking at you about every stupid thing when you've pinged them in some way

  • @dubliner1303
    @dubliner1303 Рік тому +5

    What was that Darren 👂🏻

  • @thebeboshow4421
    @thebeboshow4421 Рік тому +4

    It must be they were never listened to? I’m trying to figure out how my mother became what she is, none of it makes sense

  • @Sil26439
    @Sil26439 Рік тому +1

    From my personal working experience, I learnt that the only way to "communicate" with a narcissistic colleague, and to be seen and hopefully heard by them during our "conversations", was through body contact, ,e.g. touching the person's arm or hand. As if being touched made them realize there was somebody else near them. It was so frustrating for me talking as loud as possible and understanding that the other person had cut me off.

  • @suzukigirlis1236
    @suzukigirlis1236 Рік тому +2

    Wow, that hits home for me!!

  • @halimohellos8943
    @halimohellos8943 Рік тому +3

    Thank you for content. Explains a lot!!!

  • @bcpr9812
    @bcpr9812 10 місяців тому

    I've seen it written elsewhere that they listen _for,_ they don't listen _to._

  • @heathermixson1265
    @heathermixson1265 Рік тому +3

    That's my husband's fave movie, The Terminator.....go figure!!

  • @alasdair1571
    @alasdair1571 11 місяців тому

    Holy cow! Just when I thought I understood my narcissistic (estranged) wife you have just explained the year and a half I tried desperately to save the marriage. I know she is a covert narcissist but she seems to have taken on the roll of a malignant narcissist in this time period. She was cruel and I recognize that glee on her face and her victory smirks from your description

  • @TheTeganOsmondChannel
    @TheTeganOsmondChannel Рік тому

    Excellent video

  • @Aotearoa.
    @Aotearoa. Рік тому +1

    I'm so glad I'm single just couldn't find out partner stay with is a narc and waste 20 year's staying together or a life time. Unfortunately kids are the real one who get it bad... It not even about the adults if they raise kids among it...

  • @ArthurGraham-vy1ze
    @ArthurGraham-vy1ze 10 місяців тому +2

    Tell then something you did or tell them something you thought of, and watch them twist reality until the thing you said becomes about somebody or something else. Do it over and over againuntil it dawns on you to get rid of the jerk.

  • @Arnot73
    @Arnot73 10 місяців тому

    Wow. Thanks.

  • @spiritual2020
    @spiritual2020 10 місяців тому

    NOPE!! They never listen. They may hear and pretend they're listening by giving a bleek reply like "OH" or "Okay" or "Oh Okay." without any real communication as a response. They constantly twist words into what they think I said into what they want what I said to what they know they want to 'get', 'take', from me.

  • @Jettypilelegs
    @Jettypilelegs 9 місяців тому +1

    My ex only listens to hear something he can use to take over and dominate the conversation. It’s not interlocution. He’ll do it in the middle of my sentence and not even notice I’ve deflated. He does it to his daughter too. I see her shrink regularly.

  • @amelialee2755
    @amelialee2755 11 місяців тому +2

    They do NOT have HUMANITY!

  • @christinedicken-mg5jl
    @christinedicken-mg5jl Рік тому +2

    No!

  • @jesperandersson889
    @jesperandersson889 Рік тому

    listen less if they smell blood, here they just go into 'destroy' mode

  • @kr3642
    @kr3642 2 місяці тому

    Careful about the learning to show emotion and masking things. Layman could easily mistake it for High fucntioning ASD (aka Asd 1 or formerly aspergers)

  • @karenbrummond8507
    @karenbrummond8507 Рік тому +2

    100% true! Ugh.

  • @antheredhen
    @antheredhen 10 місяців тому +2

    I always thought it was his ADHD.

  • @EuphoniaPooch
    @EuphoniaPooch 9 місяців тому +1

    There is such a thing as ADHD as well though, so don't be too hard on your spacey friends that missed what you said or forgot the upcoming event you've mentioned

  • @maryw3989
    @maryw3989 10 місяців тому

    No! they don't want to hear what they don't want to hear and if it doesn't benefit them with no benefit for you then they tune you out like a young child with their fingers in their ears thinking to themselves La-la -la I can't hear you all I hear is Blah, blah, blah your at it again just give me what I want, I'll be happy and it'll be fine.

  • @jordanharkness
    @jordanharkness 5 місяців тому

    It's one thing to point out these behaviours to us, your viewers, because it confirms we're dealing with these issues. But the videos leave out suggestions on strategies and tactics to deal with it. If you can't fix a narcissist, how do you combat or work around the behaviour described?

    • @DarrenFMagee
      @DarrenFMagee  5 місяців тому

      I cover some of these things in my livestreams

  • @EK-sz5no
    @EK-sz5no Рік тому +2

    No

  • @nikmc140
    @nikmc140 Рік тому +2

    As I was listening to this I believe you mentioned "straw man argument" ...can you elaborate on this please? My soon to be ex would constantly say to me you just want a straw man.

    • @DarrenFMagee
      @DarrenFMagee  Рік тому +3

      I’ve made a video on the straw man fallacy if you’d find it helpful?

  • @2happygrls
    @2happygrls Рік тому +1

    Describes my ex perfectly

  • @hazelrah321
    @hazelrah321 Рік тому +1

    Are these people evil geniuses to be feared, or are they just damaged survivors to be pitied?

  • @mysticsuzi
    @mysticsuzi Рік тому

    Mine was always saying he wanted to know my deepest secrets. Uhm no.

  • @AndrewNuttallWearsPants
    @AndrewNuttallWearsPants 11 місяців тому

    Isn't malignant narcissism also a bit contagious? Isn't that how they obtain flying monkeys?

  • @symbolsandsystems
    @symbolsandsystems Рік тому

    it's almost as though narcissists are the repair mechanics of social control hypnosis.

  • @antheredhen
    @antheredhen 10 місяців тому

    Lmbo.. My brother in law who is text book. Watching him date this girl is where I learned about love bombing. He actually had a Rebekah journal to write info in.. Joke was on him she was just as big a narc as he was. She even beat him on failed marriages 4 to his 3. (I did some digging to find that out just to prove him stupid😊) She dumped him. Histerical.. If a doctor actually met all my husband's family including my husband they could write a line of best selling books on who not to marry.. I actually think my brother in law might be a psychopath. He even tried to talk his daughter into selling her underwear for college spending money.. WTH!

  • @heathermixson1265
    @heathermixson1265 Рік тому

    😂😂😂

  • @JohnSmith-wo7ns
    @JohnSmith-wo7ns Рік тому

    No