Unschooled Van Life Should Be BANNED

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  • @joeycohen7533
    @joeycohen7533 Місяць тому +2570

    The fact that it's illegal in many countries speaks volumes on it. There's a family in Europe that openly admits that they are breaking that law, and it's why they don't do van life in their home country

    • @f3nrir94
      @f3nrir94 Місяць тому +276

      I’m italian and here school is mandatory until you are 16. I just don’t understand how in the us is normal to be homeschooled or how parents can just decide to not educate their kids. It’s absurd

    • @joeycohen7533
      @joeycohen7533 Місяць тому +55

      @f3nrir94 it is not Normal. I've met like 1 home schooled kid in my 25 yrs of life. It is more normalizes though mainly due to how underfunded schools are

    • @teacherella1338
      @teacherella1338 Місяць тому +72

      @@joeycohen7533many kids in the US are homeschooled, it is quite common. Just bc you don’t know any homeschoolers doesn’t mean it’s uncommon.

    • @MagicMonkey96
      @MagicMonkey96 Місяць тому +76

      @@joeycohen75331 in every 17 kids is homeschooled. Maybe you didn’t see them because you were at school most of your life

    • @f3nrir94
      @f3nrir94 Місяць тому +31

      @@joeycohen7533 Yeah, I get that maybe not everyone is homeschooled, but only the fact that you can decide to do that, to me doesn’t make any sense

  • @Moonpie90
    @Moonpie90 Місяць тому +8629

    A lot of these parents forget most people still take their school going kids to zoos, museums and teach them home skills and take them into nature. They just do it at the evenings and weekends

    • @RayLikeSunshine
      @RayLikeSunshine  Місяць тому +931

      Obviously kids in actual school are just too busy to do that /s

    • @JubbysDragons
      @JubbysDragons Місяць тому +246

      No they are too busy studying and doing homework to ever look at animals for 3 hrs on a Saturday 😂

    • @Personwtcats
      @Personwtcats Місяць тому +198

      @@JubbysDragons The things they mentioned are things people usually do in elementary school. I’ve never met anyone who had 3 hours of weekend homework in elementary school.

    • @JubbysDragons
      @JubbysDragons Місяць тому +55

      @@Personwtcats what?? I never said anything about weekend homework of course no one has that what.. I'm talking about going to the zoo like the comment said. These parents act like normal school kids can't go to the zoo too. When they do just on weekends or holiday.

    • @punchdrunkassassin
      @punchdrunkassassin Місяць тому

      This. My kid is in public school and we still go on hikes, go to the zoo, go to cultural festivals, do DIY science projects, and look up info about bugs on Wikipedia. He's also taught himself how to code, because he wanted to learn it and took the initiative to do so. I'm watching these videos, like, most of us also do a lot of this stuff with our kids too? (If we physically can and are able, of course)
      ESPECIALLY when you see the low bar some of them set for what constitutes an educational activity... I saw one video where they took their kid to the grocery store to do the weekly shopping and called it "unschooling". Bestie, that's just parenting 🥲

  • @SstarfruitT
    @SstarfruitT Місяць тому +616

    If he is not a junkie you found on the streets of portugal I dont want him😔

    • @RayLikeSunshine
      @RayLikeSunshine  Місяць тому +218

      I can fix him (my therapist can fix me after)

    • @cookiedoe6068
      @cookiedoe6068 Місяць тому +12

      Both of these comments are gold 😂

    • @boriskravchenko454
      @boriskravchenko454 Місяць тому +3

      I randomly stumbled across one of their videos a while ago and I was so confused why so many comments were talking about cucking, now I know the lore 😅

  • @anjy-555
    @anjy-555 Місяць тому +277

    I'm suddenly now so grateful for living in a room shared with my sister, yeah its annoying but its better than living on a damn shelf.😭

    • @moustik31
      @moustik31 Місяць тому +3

      "shelf"
      😭

    • @anjy-555
      @anjy-555 Місяць тому

      @@moustik31 Frr tho 😭

  • @DoritoBot9000
    @DoritoBot9000 Місяць тому +379

    Unschooling could make sense with older kids, adapting their curriculum to what they are more interested in and may want to pursue later in life. But preschoolers and younger kids most definitely need to learn those hardskills, otherwise they will never be able to access the later.

    • @nurnadhirahsaing6169
      @nurnadhirahsaing6169 Місяць тому +47

      Agreed. Maybe for kids that are in the highschool range of age, this lifestyle could work (although the lack of privacy problem is still kind of concerning).

    • @tiryaclearsong421
      @tiryaclearsong421 Місяць тому +23

      One of my other hobbies is watching cult documentaries and a trend I have noticed is that almost all people born into a cult who survive can't do math or science and can't even really start with programming. There is a fairly solid cutoff in childhood where if you didn't learn something, you can't learn it later. We only roughly understand it for language but I've noticed a trend where math, science, and computer skills are also affected. I wouldn't be surprised if things like art are as well.

    • @antred11
      @antred11 Місяць тому +5

      Unschooling is just plain idiotic.

    • @genericname2747
      @genericname2747 Місяць тому +8

      I was removed from elementary school at Grade 6 due to absolutely awful migraines that I only got in school, and then after a few years I went to highschool and I was fine. Homeschooling rocked for me.

    • @josei1624
      @josei1624 Місяць тому

      I think people underestimate how strange elementare school is. Maybe thats where Im from but jeah I learned Multiplikation which isn important but I also learned like what eaxh oart of a medivial castle was called. And i didnt care about that, walking around a forest and learning the signs of spring would have been genuiely more educational. Some of these things are very Individual which is what the school system doesnt allow for. Of course I dont trust parents who drive around their kids and dont realize The value in Stability while vlogging everything. But the signs of spring or lever thing where genuiely good examples of moments where kids will proably learn better because they are doing something active based on what they already like doing.
      I learned Multiplikations while jumping on a Trampoline. My mum said it was cause movement helps you study, I say I was fucking bored. I guess my point is like Hey from jsut those clips we dont know how much the kids are lesrning and they are showing some good examples of what part of education as a kid can look like. But I agree and hope that that isnt all, but again I think that actual good schooling takes a lot more efofrt than i trust those parents are putting in while traveling

  • @diemhummel9420
    @diemhummel9420 Місяць тому +169

    Also, not allowing children to form bonds with other adults outside the home (teachers, class aids, other friend’s parents, ect) is dangerous. Its kind of a catch 22 thing. If the parent is abusive, the child needs other adults they trust to tell about the abuse, but the abusive parent wont let the kid form those bonds.
    Children having bonds with out-of-the-house adults protects them from the in-the-house adults.
    (To a point. Of course there are the bad bonds that can lead to abuse, but allowing the child to form good bonds and trust with others overall protects them from abuse because they have a safety net that isnt the parents that are potentially abusing them.

    • @NotYomama13
      @NotYomama13 Місяць тому +3

      The public school system has a fairly high rate of abuse, I don't think I can necessarily agree with what you said.

    • @diemhummel9420
      @diemhummel9420 Місяць тому +5

      @@NotYomama13 oh, yah, the world sucks and theres abuse everwhere. Every time you interact with another human being, theres a chance for abuse.
      I just think that having the opportunity to have the ability to contact someone, having more resources, is a better idea then having no one to go to if the singular person(s) (the homeschooling parents) are the abusers.
      Like, no one should be under the watching eye of one singular controlling entity 24/7 because that one singular entity might be the thing hurting you and if you have parts of the day where you can break free of that control, moving location without that person present, might give you the chance of bring up that abuse with someone.
      (But yah, public school is a hell, not gonna argue there. Totally agree. But being trapped, with no contact with others, under total control of a single person, is also hell)

  • @danderson8431
    @danderson8431 Місяць тому +56

    There’s NOTHING more selfish than denying your children an education because YOU don’t want to be bothered or bored.

  • @xxIDontKnowxx
    @xxIDontKnowxx Місяць тому +141

    This is so frustrating as someone who was homeschooled growing up. People confuse this with actual homeschooling, and it gives it a bad name.
    Growing up, I had an actual curriculum. I also went to a homeschool group at least once a week.
    My mom also used these "teaching moments," but she combined them with a real education. She let us study our interests, along with all the necessary information we needed.
    Homeschooling isn’t for everyone, and that's okay. But parents like this make all homeschool parents seem neglectful and lazy.

    • @Moonbovine
      @Moonbovine Місяць тому +6

      I was homeschooled too! I definitely agree! I had a very complicated curriculum too. I had to apply everything I learned practically. The studying I did was kind of harsh actually 😂 so I was definitely pissed seeing this lady give us a bad rep

    • @amberblosser814
      @amberblosser814 Місяць тому +4

      Nope. We can see the difference. I am pro homeschooling! Not unschooling. There should be some type of curriculum and structure to schooling. It may not look the same as traditional schooling necessarily. However for students to be successful that's what they need.

    • @florianfeige6323
      @florianfeige6323 Місяць тому

      @@amberblosser814 Both deserves to be banned.

    • @NotYomama13
      @NotYomama13 Місяць тому +2

      that's exactly the problem. They don't trust the school system, but they're not able or willing to do it themselves, either. In this case, I would say, they should try to fork some money over for a private school.

    • @deweyr_fisher
      @deweyr_fisher Місяць тому

      @@NotYomama13 Private schools aren’t always great either. At the one I was enrolled in [before my mom started homeschooling me] I was bullied badly and those kids got off the hook because their parents worked there and just didn’t fill out the paperwork

  • @matthewsanchez7953
    @matthewsanchez7953 Місяць тому +74

    It'd be one thing if the parents were both extremely educated and disciplined instructors who made their children's education a priority, but the _vast_ majority of "unschooling" bohemians are not even close to approaching that level.

    • @nurnadhirahsaing6169
      @nurnadhirahsaing6169 Місяць тому +12

      Reminds of some stories and movies where they'll depict a family (usually of three people) living in remote areas like the Amazon rainforest because one or both parent(s) work as professor(s)/researcher(s). I think there's one that is a real life story though where a girl survived in Amazon rainforest for like 10 days (?) after a plane crashed. Her parents teaches her a lot about survival skills and some other stuffs which really helped.

    • @wasnlos2676
      @wasnlos2676 Місяць тому +5

      ​@@nurnadhirahsaing6169Yeah that was Juliane Koepcke

  • @Ayisaki
    @Ayisaki Місяць тому +130

    So damn glad that school attendance is compulsory in Germany 💀 That shit would not slide here (thankfully)

    • @andromedamessier3176
      @andromedamessier3176 Місяць тому +5

      The first woman is from Germany. At least that is what everyone says

    • @Ayisaki
      @Ayisaki Місяць тому +23

      @@andromedamessier3176 But there is a difference between whether she is from germany or also living in Germany. For example, homeschooling is outlawed entirely here.

    • @HaleyStark.
      @HaleyStark. Місяць тому

      Being thankful to N@zis for their policies? Wild.

    • @DoubleDwarf
      @DoubleDwarf Місяць тому +1

      ​@@Ayisakithat's insane that you think the government can tell you what to do with YOUR KIDS. It's not the governments property to literally punish you if your don't obey the state's idea of education.

    • @Ayisaki
      @Ayisaki Місяць тому +14

      @@DoubleDwarf I think it's more 'insane' that you think It's negative for a government to have laws *ENSURING* *proper* *education* and stating that everyone has a right to be educated. The legal framework around truancy in Germany emphasizes compulsory education because it's one of the best methods (not saying it's not flawed, but it makes sure that there is a proper routine and curriculum in the children's lifes and social lifes), and the consequences are generally focused on ensuring school attendance, which includes fines where the amount varies in each state, rather than imposing severe punitive measures like jail time (or, one example; unless there are multiple cases of truancy for a child under 14, which counts as child neglect.)
      Yeah, really insane.

  • @BunnyTheCat
    @BunnyTheCat Місяць тому +8

    I’ve moved 15x across country. My family finally broke up in CA and I’ve been stable in one place the last 7yrs the longest ever, the chaos of always being on the move is not missed at all lol

  • @naomif9964
    @naomif9964 Місяць тому +16

    This unschooling sounds very helpful for learning until they are like 7. Children at that time are trying to understand the world and going into the forest, the zoo etc helps a lot. But honestly after that, the child will loose a lot of potential. Children don't become doctors or engineers by living in nature. Or else we would have had these jobs during the stone age

    • @ssgg23
      @ssgg23 Місяць тому +2

      That actually makes sense, and explains why like kindergarten and to some extent first grade has a lot of these “unschooling” experiential elements thrown in. I remember having a lot more play time, recess, interactive activities, etc at school around that age, and it was way more memorable than doing worksheets at a desk lol. I do feel like older kids could still benefit from more integrated experiential learning but it does need to be balanced more with making sure the necessary material is covered, especially as kids get to high school math and science.

    • @2okaycola
      @2okaycola 27 днів тому

      This

  • @Life_Love_and_a_Lens
    @Life_Love_and_a_Lens Місяць тому +4

    Hey with the amount of teachers saying parents are responsible for their child's learning and also saying a huge chunk of children are magically making it to 7th grade but can barely read or write....sounds like kids are being let down everywhere

  • @mayaklast6334
    @mayaklast6334 Місяць тому +3

    I have recently read a long article written by a woman who was on a boat for a decade with her brother and their parents as a child and how horrible it was from her perspective despite everyone thinking they were privileged. How she just wanted a dog, a home, friends and a stable education instead of spending her childhood in a small enclosed space with her parents and having to help out with a ton of daily chores. She has never forgiven her parents.

    • @lemsip207
      @lemsip207 3 дні тому

      I read that too. She didn't come into contact with anyone else while at sea only while in ports. She couldn't storm off somewhere when in a bad mood or for privacy. Plus she missed out on friends.

  • @jeyjey077
    @jeyjey077 Місяць тому +7

    I was 'homeschooled' for 2+ years, and only recently have I joined back into my old school.
    I was isolated, and left on my own to do all the work. I didn't understand a majority of it, and nobody explained it, which led to me being 2 years behind. I fell into a deep state of depression, with no help from my mother, and I had to get myself out of it.
    Thankfully I rejoined my old school where I am meant to be. I have realised over the past month that a social circle is extremely important, and I completely lost my personality over the 3 past years. I now have great friends, and I don't have to spend nearly as much time at home.
    I love my parents, because they're my parents, but I really hate them for what they did to me.
    Don't homeschool your child if:
    - you are a hoarder/live in a generally messy house
    - you are not prepared to become your child's full time teacher
    - you are not prepared to wake up very early in the morning for your child's benefit
    - you live in an old folks town/there aren't many children around
    - you live in an isolated area
    The most important thing for a child is a good social circle.
    If you do not give them their basic needs for homeschooling, you are mentally abusing them.

  • @Mayzan841
    @Mayzan841 Місяць тому +1

    Lived in a house bus in NZ as a kid and was mostly home schooled. Was a great childhood and I learnt a lot that has helped me in life. Gone on to be a marine technician with the navy, have my own business with 13 employees and have a family of my own. So much of what I have achieved has its roots in my upbringing. If done right this lifestyle is very rewarding, but it takes work and must not be treated as a big holiday.

  • @catie5939
    @catie5939 Місяць тому +1

    I was "unschooled" in the nineties/early oughts and I'm not really able to watch a lot of content about it, but..
    I've never seen regular creators care about homeschooled kids like this. Thank you. There are so many kids suffering through this sh*t, in both unschooling and homeschooling. We've needed better homeschool oversight for decades.
    More people talking about unschooling means more awareness. I don't think most people realize that children literally don't have the human right to an education in the US.
    If you're interested, look up the Coalition on the Rights of the Child, which the US still refuses to ratify and has for years. It gives children rights, but the rightwing in the US wants to continue to A) hit their children, and B) "homeschool" them, so we're the only developed nation that hasn't ratified it and given children rights 🫠
    The ONLY one. It's wild out here. I got no education past sixth grade and it was fully legal.

  • @mickslife365
    @mickslife365 Місяць тому +18

    12:22 ANOTHER UA-camr exposed😢

  • @nikanau2041
    @nikanau2041 Місяць тому +3

    I had a normal school, but we changed the place three times, so I had to change my school three times. And even that minor change in stability left emotional damage on me. Kids need stability, clear rules in community and rich social life.

  • @margonaut
    @margonaut Місяць тому +23

    driving around wasting gas for no reason failing to prepare their kids for adulthood

  • @strangementalitypaperYT
    @strangementalitypaperYT Місяць тому +1

    I'm a high school teacher. The USA has its issues, but our education system is NOT one of them. The European and Asian models can literally ruin a person's life if you have one bad testing day. Here, graduate high school and you've got a clean slate to do whatever you're capable of. Will you go into debt for college? Yes. Is it worth it? Also yes. I'm 31 and still paying back student loans, but budgeting is something I learned in math class at my private school -- not in a van.

  • @Austins_Corner
    @Austins_Corner Місяць тому +3

    I have a friend who has un-schooled their kids since the pandemic. They are very smart kids and I think that it has been a fuel for some of their interests and passions. The other major difference is that these kids are not also traveling, they live at home.

  • @Chaosqueenngami
    @Chaosqueenngami Місяць тому +5

    It really feels like a lot of these kinds of parents are treating their kids like an accessory for their van life. Like they weren’t ready to settle down and do right by the kids but know that kids make good content so had them anyways.

  • @catsncrows
    @catsncrows Місяць тому +2

    This just came up in my reccomended so late comment. I lived the hippie 1960s and 70s version of this nightmare and it translated to "let's learn what your parents think is fun!😃" missing from that was any kind of math and if it's van life it's incredibly lonely, plus all kinds of abuse goes unnoticed because there's no constant community. Messed up childhood superpowers, I'm really good at being all alone.

  • @mikatu
    @mikatu Місяць тому +8

    she belongs to the streets. their kids not so much! where is child protection services in these cases??
    the homeschool crowd forget that one of the reasons kids go to school is to learn to deal with people they don't like, people they hate, being in an environment they cannot control, learn stuff they don't like, etc... it is not just about learning the curriculum. you will have to deal with all types of people and you learn that at the school, not at home. how are the kids going to date if the parents are always there? how are the kids going to deal with people that are rude to them if they never experience how to deal with such cases? how are they going to work in a 9-5 job if all they did was opening an app and "learn" whatever they decided to?

  • @nbenefiel
    @nbenefiel Місяць тому +1

    The most important thing is reading to your kids as much as possible.

  • @luckymellon7812
    @luckymellon7812 Місяць тому +34

    16:55 when video ends

    • @sweetsongtalks
      @sweetsongtalks Місяць тому +2

      Oml that's so funny, I was just searching for the video ending timestamp. Tysm!!
      To those unaware, this is a joke :)

    • @shineinstars
      @shineinstars Місяць тому +2

      thank u!

    • @luckymellon7812
      @luckymellon7812 Місяць тому +3

      @@shineinstars no problem!

    • @luckymellon7812
      @luckymellon7812 Місяць тому +2

      @@sweetsongtalks my pleasure fs!! ☺️

  • @stevegamington8911
    @stevegamington8911 Місяць тому +7

    This is a genuine question of mine, what if the parents divorce during the van life? Is someone just forced out to survive on their own?

  • @gargwinvinesnake6961
    @gargwinvinesnake6961 Місяць тому +1

    A big part of school is interacting with peers and learning how to socialize.
    In kindergarten it's easy to tell the children who went to daycare, preschool, or spent a lot of time with other kids in different ways. They are more confident, understand why there are rules, and consider other students.
    The children who were isolated at home and "unschooled" are often painfully shy and disconnected OR think the world revolves around them. They don't care if they hurt other students, are extremely disrespectful to staff, and do really dangerous things socialized children younger than them would understand is wrong.

  • @katherinekelly5380
    @katherinekelly5380 Місяць тому +1

    I pretty much agree with this assessment - going to school, making friends and having things I had to do were pretty important for my development as a kid.

  • @KaelynRuth
    @KaelynRuth Місяць тому +1

    I plan on homeschooling/unschooling, but my kids are gonna learn to read and do math by an early age. Interest based education can come after they know how to multiply and divide. And when they do fun experiments, like creating lever systems, their daddy (who’s really good at physics) is gonna roll out a whiteboard and teach them all the real physics behind it. And when I bake with them, I’m gonna draw out some diagrams of molecules and show them what’s actually happening when sugar caramelizes and when baking soda and lemon juice react to make a cake fluffy.

  • @TheBlkKat
    @TheBlkKat Місяць тому +2

    "Moving repeatedly in childhood associated with poorer quality of life years later"
    Military kids: 👀

  • @krizalide1
    @krizalide1 Місяць тому +1

    my sister kept her daughter at home until she were ready for school. So about 5-6 years of isolation with only family to talk to. She was sooo excited to go to school and finally have friends...and got ignored badly, because she kept talking loudly over everyone. She was devastated. She had to learn real fast on social skills, and she's doing a lot better now and made lots of friends. But isolating your kids will be extremely rough for them later one, they'll get bullied anyway just later in life. It's not helping them.

  • @homesteadingmillennial5875
    @homesteadingmillennial5875 21 день тому +2

    The reality is that in order to be a teacher, you need to be highly educated because there are specific, scientifically-proven ways to teach things like literacy and math. Teachers know this and teach accordingly. If parents want to home-school, they should consider some kind of distance learning where a trained teacher watches over their program and evaluates their progress. I do agree that children learn a lot through play and social interaction. They need time to do those fun things too because that is healthy for their development, but in this age, if you cannot read, do basic math or have basic social skills, you are stealing opportunities from your children.

  • @orinokotanavi2025
    @orinokotanavi2025 Місяць тому +2

    Wow i really cant believe that parents are allowed to do this shit to their children, in my country every child has to go to elementary school by law, but it's not mandatory to go to high school.
    Side story: When my mom was born in 1966, my gradnfather had to drop out my aunt out of school (she was 12 at the time) cause when my grandma gave birt she omly had 40kg so she was too weak to take cary of my baby mom(my mom was also 6kg heavy when she was born) and everyone else was too busy to spend all the time caring for her, so that's why aunt had to drop out cause that was the only solution, but cause he dropped her out while she was still in elementary school my grandpa had to go to jail for 3 months( but he managed to negotiate and had to pay a herty fine instead) cause that was illegal, so you can see how important it was for children to go to school, when my mom grew up a bit, my aunt was able to go back to school and finnish both elementary and highscool, cause proper education was important to my grandparents, so what these people are doing is so fucked up on so many levels 😑

  • @madihedges5288
    @madihedges5288 Місяць тому +6

    dude your videos have been really good lately! keep it up, you're doing great!

  • @lunak6561
    @lunak6561 Місяць тому +2

    Kids who learn life skills like cooking at school are usually kids who need more time to learn it, aka special ed kids. Parents are supposed to teach their kids cooking and all that

  • @kelly6677
    @kelly6677 Місяць тому +7

    6:23 so this is *definitely* the Humboldt County area (Eureka Zoo and Trinidad Beach I believe) and yeah, that checks out 🤦🏼‍♀️

  • @lilyyo4681
    @lilyyo4681 6 днів тому

    I appreciate how you sing the songs playing in the tiktoks bc it really helps so much😭

  • @malicious-fisheeves
    @malicious-fisheeves Місяць тому +4

    I wouldn't be the first to speak about the failures of the current public education, but none of these issues are solved by just... not having your kids be educated.
    Also ok as an aside... sometimes you do have to do things you don't want to. Like I think its important to learn skills about dealing with Things You Must Do Even If You Don't Like Them. Within reason, of course, but like...

  • @FinandDandy
    @FinandDandy 15 днів тому

    The reason why unschooling and home schooling disturbs me so much is it reminds me of my cousins. They were "homeschooled" I thought it was cool. They were around my age and a little younger. Maybe there was an attempt at education for a few years there five time I was probably 10 or 12, it was pretty clear an attempt wasn't even being made. It was too much work and it was too much trouble so my aunt and uncle just were not educating their kids. They didn't take him to school and they didn't do it themselves. When me and the oldest were 15-16, one of the last times I saw them before there was a big falling out in the family, I asked the oldest how school worked for them. Like did he know division. He said, "I don't like talking about that." And like it made me so sad. I loved school and I was so sad for them. Their parents made a lot of mistakes that got them ostracized but I'm most angry about how they screwed up things for their kids by being too lazy to educate them.

  • @erobin93
    @erobin93 Місяць тому

    Man I love my folks but even as a public school kid I desperately wanted to go to sleep away camp or boarding school to get away from them sometimes. Can’t imagine being stuck with them ALL DAY EVERY DAY. IN A VAN.

  • @amysusanna214
    @amysusanna214 Місяць тому

    It’s interesting because as with so many terms, unschooling used to have a different meaning. I have chosen to homeschool but from home, we got a bigger house to make sure we had a separate classroom space, I have a masters degree in counseling with 6 grad level courses in child development related subjects, undergrad in family studies, sociology and English, my husband is a history fiend and I love nutrition science, biology, chemistry, etc. We actually got the “2022 Texas Prekindergarten guideline, PK3 & PK4 comprehensive guidelines” from a local school’s website to use as a skeleton to hang our custom curriculum on. I believe homeschooling, when done correctly, is the highest privilege and one of the most expensive options because you are sacrificing an income to do it, and I don’t think it’s best for every parent or every kid- but when you can do it right, it is really fun. My 4 year old is fascinated with human anatomy books and understanding how the systems work. But if she ever asks to go to school we will find a Classical school to get her enrolled in.

  • @lordfreerealestate8302
    @lordfreerealestate8302 Місяць тому +6

    I'm convinced this "unschoolers" are just rebranding their neglect. Like, they are too lazy/selfish to legitimately homeschool their kids and want to keep them at home/van for making content, so they justify it as "unschooling/homeschooling". These people are going to damage their children for life and set them up for poverty.

  • @davidstephens7399
    @davidstephens7399 Місяць тому

    I strive to "unschool van life" with my elementary aged kids for a summer vacation someday. A three-four week roadtrip around the US would be great memories. Wild schooling is a great supplement to a healthy education.

  • @kerriann04
    @kerriann04 Місяць тому

    We homeschool. We are actually pretty laid back homeschoolers, too. But gosh darn, my kids know how to spell! And I know we've done ok, because my oldest has graduated high school with 10 college credits, earning a 4.0 so far, working part time and continuing to take classes. Second child is following in the same manner, making all As as well.

  • @FaiAshland
    @FaiAshland Місяць тому

    As a shm of two I home school my oldest due to a few issues one being medical and the other is that the schools near by are really bad so my husband and I decided to homeschool. I never wanted to homeschool, growing up those kids where looked on a weirdos now that I'm in this situation I'm doing everything I can to make sure they turn out normal and can be productive adults, so parents that unschool their kids absolutely shock me. How can you do that to your child?! It's hard to teach your children but damn do at least teach them to read!

  • @guy6169
    @guy6169 Місяць тому +1

    This is hilarious. The topic is depressing as hell , but the way you edited it and the script you wrote , is absolutely hilarious and this is now one of my favorite videos 😍

  • @blitz3391
    @blitz3391 Місяць тому +1

    That first mother looked high af when talking...

  • @xlynz69
    @xlynz69 Місяць тому

    No education will severely limit these children in the future and it’s sad to see the parents are willingly allowing this

  • @Remifentanil
    @Remifentanil Місяць тому

    Wait, didn’t they always show in the movies how the social security system of America ensured that all the kids had a healthy life. I grew up watching all those movies where the lead cast was always struggling to match the criteria for foster parents. Did that all apply to foster parents and immigrants parents only?

  • @universalcollective427
    @universalcollective427 8 днів тому

    This is parental laziness masquerading as alternative lifestyle, the hippies did this in communes in the 60-70's and their children have horror stories about it now they've grown into adulthood

  • @RosaMaria-pb9bg
    @RosaMaria-pb9bg Місяць тому

    I went to a normal school and honestly 90% of the things I learned I forgot or were useless. Math, reading and writing are essential, but I would have loved to learn some real life skills.

  • @sissisfranz1893
    @sissisfranz1893 Місяць тому

    The thing is, unschooling done right can be way better for some kids than school. Just encourage your kid to learn about their interests and provide them with resources. There are kids who are now very successful in their field as adults.

  • @ladyserena1989
    @ladyserena1989 Місяць тому

    Homeschooling is illegal in my country and this is even further from that and incomprehensible to me. How this is legal baffles me

  • @KillerMoth_Stumpy
    @KillerMoth_Stumpy Місяць тому +2

    Unschooling is basically what people think Homeschooling is if they don't know anything about it

  • @ffmadari
    @ffmadari Місяць тому

    On top of neglecting their kids, these parents expect the rest of us (taxpayers) to pay for their kids welfare, when they become adults and can’t get a job because they have no education.

  • @alzbetal1499
    @alzbetal1499 Місяць тому

    This is so crazy to me bc this is literally illegal in my country and those kids would be taken away

  • @tirannusmark7ita679
    @tirannusmark7ita679 Місяць тому

    In my country there is mandatory instruction, whoever doesn't want to send their sons to school, could go tu prison (wich is to much for me, a very nasty fine should be enought) and could also lose their son that could be reallocated to another family

  • @julianes.9237
    @julianes.9237 Місяць тому +1

    Never been more grateful to be german, this shit could never happen here 😭

  • @marcmeinzer8859
    @marcmeinzer8859 Місяць тому

    What’s even more insane is school. Have you ever tried teaching school? Although to be fair raising a family in a van sounds pretty maladaptive.

  • @Billuey
    @Billuey Місяць тому +1

    Imagine trying to teach someone that doesn't know how to do multiplication.

  • @sizzlet01
    @sizzlet01 Місяць тому

    Crazy that the name for this trend literally means undoing or not schooling - like purposefully teaching them less skills or knowledge

  • @INDECORUSNEFARIUS
    @INDECORUSNEFARIUS Місяць тому +10

    Omg I can’t imagine how many flat earthers this unschooling bs gonna make….

  • @alostkoi
    @alostkoi Місяць тому

    Considering some kids actually go to school and end up with terrible spelling/reading comprehension, i wonder how will a homeschooled... I mean, a neglected unschooled kid end up?

  • @ketrinvalentin
    @ketrinvalentin Місяць тому +1

    I am going to be homeschool for this year because I am doing my A levels and I do not live in England. I CHOSE to do it online because the international schools in my country are not good quality. I have the determination to do it as well as the will to do so, these children do not. The parents are setting their children up for failure just for some views, why??? I have friends so during my studies I will be seeing them as well as I will be in a STABLE environment, these kids will not. I don't understand the logic behind these parents because of course children would rather choose to do some silly games instead of doing math, they don't understand the real life consequences of not knowing basic math. I feel that this "movement" should be illegal because ,in my opinion, its some kind of child abuse - in my country it is illegal for children to not go to a registered school and I thought this was the case for everywhere but turns out it isn't.

  • @srosegold
    @srosegold Місяць тому

    “ I will pass … it on to the next person because I will fail “ 😂

  • @hanatemonstas4485
    @hanatemonstas4485 Місяць тому +1

    As a tech bro, don’t just us tech bros with your kids schooling

  • @earthlyworld4698
    @earthlyworld4698 24 дні тому

    Homeschooling is slowly becoming a thing in some Eastern countries now not just Western countries

  • @Robohead-z6z
    @Robohead-z6z Місяць тому

    This only works if they can travel with family and friends. However since that most people in post industrial countries aren’t nomads kids can’t travel with their friends.

  • @Rolandeld1999
    @Rolandeld1999 Місяць тому

    Ah yes the disappointment of learning "you can be anything"....as long as you have 20/20 vision.

  • @AmyDowney
    @AmyDowney 23 дні тому

    The caravan experience is part of life, which is filled with many enrichment activities most parents/adults do with their kids. Hands-on learning and open classrooms work for many learners; others need more structure. A school does not need to be a school building per se- a H.S. I worked at was in an office building, and another in a renovated firehouse. Parents in the 1980s started a school called Elizabeth St. Cleaners- guess where that was? The alternative school movement embraced the concepts of city-as-school and many other options for a child's education still exist (Steiner, Summerhill-based, Waldorf, etc.) as well as environmentally based curriculums you can set up through Orion Society. I have worked in "normal" and alternative settings- it was the relationship between myself, my students, and the community that was most important. I took my own children on many trips and museum visits; they attended local public schools and the foundations they received did vary based on the particular school and their teachers. As adults, they are super-literate, inquisitive, and took the best of their schooling and left the rest behind.
    They are lifelong-learners. The processes and locations for learning may vary, but hopefully, there will be options for all comers and choices for their future education and/or college. Unschooling movement is not a bad thing but putting a family in a closed space where roles are unclear for adults and education is turned over to online programs does not foster the kind of relationships important in learning. Isn't why and what we learn important? Where- a variable. With whom?- who knows. But our kids live in the world and must engage with it, and communicate with a wide variety of individuals. Education is a serious business but doesn't need to be boring. The situation of this video is extreme - de-schooling kids with good (and selfish to me) intent. Good luck to this family; I'm sure somehow the children will survive with an interesting skill set....

  • @6Kubik
    @6Kubik Місяць тому

    Maybe I am alone with this but as a child I always wanted to be "like other kids". My family was sometimes a bit unconventional but I just wanted the typical experience teenagers have: having sleep overs, going to partys, swimming in the lake, going shopping etc. I wanted to have the same stupid conversations and problems like the girls in stupid teen drama movies 😅 so maybe these van kids actually just want this too and will get the feeling of missing out.

  • @asana_awakening
    @asana_awakening Місяць тому

    As someone who plans to homeschool and used a birth center for an out of hospital birth… I find the idea of “unschooling” and free birthing insane. I bring them both up because it seems the same people like to do both. I always tell people I’m crunchy but I’m not insane 😂

  • @digital-cosmonaut
    @digital-cosmonaut Місяць тому +3

    There's a reason why homeschooling is illegal in Germany, and all children are required by law to attend school. She knows why she isn't doing this van life BS in Germany....

  • @melsoft121
    @melsoft121 Місяць тому

    With proper facilitation, most things can be educational for earlier childhood. Went on a hike? Draw a picture of something interesting you saw on the hike (fine motor skills) and write a little bit about it (literacy). Went to the gardens? Talk about the parts of the plant and how plants reproduce (science). Cloud watching? Let’s learn about the types of clouds and what weather systems they go with. Have a kid that likes collecting items from nature? Use it to teach early math skills. Your kids like building things? Great, that sounds like a perfect opportunity to talk about foundational physics principles. Using life happening around children as an educational tool requires intentional introduction of educational principles otherwise it’s just having experiences and these people are completely invalidating legitimate ways to encourage learning, plus they’re showing their ignorance by making it seem like early/foundational learning is good enough to carry a person through life…and then they top it off by doing it wrong.

  • @rickybobby5153
    @rickybobby5153 Місяць тому

    It really depends. School curriculum isn’t very good. As long as these parents are teaching their kids to read and write they’re probably better off learning things like critical thinking and applied skills like home economics - schools don’t even teach home economics anymore.
    Nothing in school teaches logic either. This is why so many students struggle with abstract concepts like algebra. Philosophy is barely even explored beyond a surface level. Ethics aren’t taught at all either.
    It took me until my mid 30s obtaining my GED and having my 60 year old mother help me with homework and teaching myself algebra on UA-cam because I actually became interested in it and wanted to learn it.

  • @Gwenpoolthegoat
    @Gwenpoolthegoat Місяць тому +4

    Hell nah they combined them...thst dosnet surprise me

  • @valmetcat8042
    @valmetcat8042 Місяць тому

    It’s interesting how some countries just seem to let parents do whatever with their school aged kids. Where I’m from the goverment will flip their shit and literally track you down if your child isn’t enrolled in school if they come of age and homeschooling is not an option.

  • @seanmckelvey6618
    @seanmckelvey6618 Місяць тому

    My question to these parents is how does running around in the woods or a field all day teach you life skills like: Filling in forms (government related or otherwise), paying bills or learning basic mathematics so you can understand how money works? What about learning how to work with people who AREN'T related to you effectively? There are things kids can learn from just playing, sure, but those skill don't necessarily overlap with the kinds of skill required to function in the modern world.

  • @Morbpious
    @Morbpious Місяць тому +2

    I struggled in school after the pandemic with the limited online learning i had for two years, i can't imagine how lost I'd be with literally nothing at all

  • @poIynomer
    @poIynomer Місяць тому +3

    Comfort channel ☺️

  • @johncruelty20
    @johncruelty20 Місяць тому

    I dont know what id do if one of my childhood father figures was a junkie found on the streets of portugal

  • @dasloddl
    @dasloddl Місяць тому +1

    the chloroplast is the powerhouse of the plant killed me

  • @alyssamay9237
    @alyssamay9237 Місяць тому +1

    It'd be fine if these parents would traditionally homeschool their kids as well as let them take lessons about things they're genuinely interested in, but unschooling is just child neglect

  • @GooseGirl1037
    @GooseGirl1037 6 днів тому

    5:59 this is why we need to find a balance between “you can choose what you want to learn” and “you still have to learn this weather you want to or not”

  • @Diggler569
    @Diggler569 Місяць тому

    And then these people have the audacity to complain that gen z kids don't know how to interact with the world.
    GEEE, I WONDER WHAT WOULD HAVE CAUSED THAT.

  • @cjgroves4429
    @cjgroves4429 Місяць тому

    Most people honestly dont deserve to have any access to children, let alone be parents...prove me wrong. I'll wait.

  • @TheGoattribe154
    @TheGoattribe154 Місяць тому +6665

    Spending 24/7 with your family does not sound like fun at all in a small van

    • @RayLikeSunshine
      @RayLikeSunshine  Місяць тому +443

      Just get a big van smh

    • @selka1661
      @selka1661 Місяць тому +244

      Can confirm. Spending 24/7 with your family is fucking awful. During the summer everyone moves into my parent's room as it's the only one with AC (Not my mum's fault she's great my dad is just a huge cheapskate and refuses to let anyone else except the room he is in has AC) Most days it's alright but whenever i'm upset or feel down I usually hide behind my desk and just stop talking for a while and it feels like shit. because I can't just run off to another room without the threat of literally roasting alive so I sort of just sit and stew while I ignore everyone else and it's hard to actually calm down because you don't get any proper alone time to just have a good cry without everyone else knowing so usually you'll feel like shit and constantly hide it because you're worried they'll just say something rude to you for "crying over nothing" until you sleep and the magical wake up effect makes you think "wow i was upset over nothing". In the moment you really are upset over nothing usually. But telling someone makes them feel like even worse then they are already feeling it doesnt make them feel better.
      (for more context we are a 5 person family aka me my mum/dad and my one older and younger siblings)

    • @godiswithyou.5358
      @godiswithyou.5358 Місяць тому +90

      Feels torturous. People do need their recharge time. Even those who share rooms will often escape with books or headphones… imagine doing that but still, your WHOLE FAMILY is there and there’s not even one corner to retreat to.

    • @TheGoattribe154
      @TheGoattribe154 Місяць тому +23

      @@RayLikeSunshine dont get me wrong i love my family but i need time to myself + i feel if your on the road a lot you cant really make a lot of friends or get a job

    • @staeriix
      @staeriix Місяць тому +21

      would feel like an autistic nightmare for me. eugh..

  • @officesuppliezz
    @officesuppliezz Місяць тому +4289

    I was “unschooled” until age 11, and it severely messed me up. I feel like I missed a crucial experience, I felt isolated with my peers, and I still struggle with academics years after. it’s child neglect, entirely.

    • @officesuppliezz
      @officesuppliezz Місяць тому +354

      I do online school these days, and will be going to an actual high school next year, but that doesn’t negate the effects “unschooling” had on me. At the very least, I could read and write

    • @hurpdurp123
      @hurpdurp123 Місяць тому +233

      I unschooled my whole childhood. and I relate to this, everyday I feel like I am missing a crucial part of my childhood. I didn't have a friend until I was 18, there only reason I know what I do now, is because there was some eduaction books laying around the house and I felt like I was missing something when the cartoon characters talkde about going to school.

    • @Thelastunicornlover
      @Thelastunicornlover Місяць тому +14

      ❤ you

    • @XxMCRroxnonstopxX
      @XxMCRroxnonstopxX Місяць тому +68

      If it makes you feel any better I went to public school and I was isolated from my peers and struggled academically 😅 I feel like I may have benefited from going to a Steiner school. Which is probably what most of these parents should have looked into instead. A Steiner or Waldorf school 🤷🏻‍♀️

    • @dramastace
      @dramastace Місяць тому

      I am so sorry you went through that. That sounds miserable. ​@@hurpdurp123

  • @jjaggii
    @jjaggii Місяць тому +3702

    These kind of people are setting their kids up for failure in academics, social interaction as well as stability. Its insane how far these parents will go to stand out and I hope these kids will grow beyond their (weird) upbringing.

    • @MaryGershwin
      @MaryGershwin Місяць тому +136

      the first woman is german so not only everything you said but also here in Germany you can do NOTHING without a degree! Wait, maybe if you have exceptionally good social skills you could try to... oh wait...

    • @Thelastunicornlover
      @Thelastunicornlover Місяць тому +5

      I hope so too.

    • @strawberryfox8819
      @strawberryfox8819 Місяць тому +129

      ​@@MaryGershwin.... If she is doing this in Germany, it's illegal. Germany has a mandatory school attendance for children, mostly to protect them from parents and provide them with a social life, education and adults to ask for help if needed.

    • @sinjin8576
      @sinjin8576 Місяць тому +56

      ​@@strawberryfox8819most 1st world countries have mandatory school. It's considered neglect or outright abuse to not put your kid in school.

    • @ufuvjviufugigib7692
      @ufuvjviufugigib7692 Місяць тому +28

      Some of they say “they dont like math, they will not work with that”
      I also hated math but i choose to work in a field that have math and I would have such a easier time if i had learned this in school

  • @felight5700
    @felight5700 Місяць тому +4166

    If you don't want to send your kids to school and you don't want to homeschool, don't have kids ✨

    • @DJOpaltavio
      @DJOpaltavio Місяць тому +79

      Simple ✨

    • @TheAbortionWhoLived
      @TheAbortionWhoLived Місяць тому

      How do we get cheap labour to feed us in retirement though?

    • @hogblubbers
      @hogblubbers Місяць тому +54

      Agreed!! So selfish

    • @ChadOfAllChads
      @ChadOfAllChads Місяць тому +12

      Kids are a consequence too. Feel like most people who say this "just don't have kids." Simply "don't get laid" lol

    • @kittenwizard4703
      @kittenwizard4703 Місяць тому +89

      ​@@ChadOfAllChadsyes, but unironically, living a life of extreme independance comes with sacrifices and so does settling down and having a family you gotta choose what you want but understand you gotta sacrifice something else to get what you want trying to have both just makes it worse for both scenarios

  • @Robinv0224
    @Robinv0224 Місяць тому +1452

    I don’t like the idea of “we teach them to cook, travel, camp, etc.! They don’t learn that in school!!” Bc it’s like… yeah.. that’s the parent’s job???

    • @nurnadhirahsaing6169
      @nurnadhirahsaing6169 Місяць тому +69

      In my country, depending on what elective classes and extra curricular activities that students pick, they can learn about cooking, camping, traveling, etc. Although there's been significant changes in our education system, some aspects like camping still remains the same. I've seen some countries like Indonesia do these things too, never thought it was that different in Western countries.

    • @bleuumscarlett7977
      @bleuumscarlett7977 Місяць тому +37

      ​@@nurnadhirahsaing6169i can only speak for my province in Canada, but school is seen as a place that is only academic. Arts and music are part of the curriculum, but barely. There used to be home economics classes, and reforms removed that before I started school. Why should the school teach kids/teens how to cook? That's a skill that's learned at home! (Because we all know every child has a perfect family that will lovingly teach those skills at home, of course 🤦‍♀️) anyway. There are schools that have "funky" classes, but it's really not the norm over here. You'll see a lot of sports-focused schools though, so there's that

    • @Mangafan47
      @Mangafan47 Місяць тому +19

      @@nurnadhirahsaing6169 Just because you can learn tehse things at school, doesn't mean you're suppose to do that. There are things, that parents are supposed to teach their children. Of course school can teach your children to not bite other children, potty train them, and ensure they eat with cutlery, but it isn't the school's job. [all these examples are real, because I had a classmate in elementary school who did all that cause is parents are "free-range-he's-fine-he'll-get-it-by-himself" type of parents]

    • @boopdoop2251
      @boopdoop2251 Місяць тому +11

      I mean… the child’s education is the parents job too. Even if they go to school, it’s up to parents to ensure they’re getting the education they need there, and voting for how schools should be, and stepping in when they need to. Just because we’re used to passing off the responsibility of education and even raising kids to other people or iPads now doesn’t mean it isn’t actually the parents job still. Just means they’re neglecting it.

    • @simorasimora6460
      @simorasimora6460 Місяць тому +7

      When I was in school (I'm born 1988) in sweden we have a class named "home knowledge " we're we learn how to cook, home economics, cleaning and so on, and some years we went camping, canoeing and stuff like that.. when I was in high-school we even had stuff like riding a horse once a week outside the regular physical education class... it was a communal school, nothing fancy....

  • @vanpunk
    @vanpunk Місяць тому +1518

    As a vanlife punk I have to agree, raising your kids this way is child abuse. I have a kitty cat and that's about all the responsibility I need😂

    • @Sheriden.
      @Sheriden. Місяць тому +114

      Say hello to your cat for me

    • @whackadoo
      @whackadoo Місяць тому +85

      That's really responsible of you. Give your little meow meow a hug for me. ❤❤❤

    • @riveramnell143
      @riveramnell143 Місяць тому

      Your profile name checks out lol. Boop your kitty for me.

    • @Personwtcats
      @Personwtcats Місяць тому +48

      Can you pet your cat for me?

    • @deaftoyourtonesguy
      @deaftoyourtonesguy Місяць тому +28

      aww say hi to your cat for me !!!

  • @MusiciansRule07
    @MusiciansRule07 Місяць тому +2197

    I don't care how much fun you're having being a Bohemian Nomad. As soon as the pregnancy test pops positive and you've Chosen to continue the pregnancy, it's time to grow up, drop the dead weight in your life, pick a place to park, and put down roots. Children are more important than your Van Life. Settle into one place with access to proper education, sanitation, and healthcare and save the Road Tripping for the Summer! If your lifestyle has CPS constantly on your ass like white on rice, the. it's not the right lifestyle to live. Kids need to learn how to function in society and most of all, they need to learn how to think critically. Unschooling doesn't do that. If your Van Life asthetic and Clout are more important than your kids, then don't have them in the first place or give full custody to a relative/trusted friend that has sense so they'll be safe while you live out your Dream Life. And you better send any Cash for Clout you've made directly to them after covering your living expenses. Period.

    • @Thelastunicornlover
      @Thelastunicornlover Місяць тому +29

      👍💯

    • @CordeliaWagner1999
      @CordeliaWagner1999 Місяць тому

      You Do it BEFORE.
      Pregnancies don't magically pop up.
      Couples choose to stop the Contraceptives.
      It's to late to get your 💩 together when she is already pregnant. 40 weeks aren't much time for a big change

    • @thathazelgiirl
      @thathazelgiirl Місяць тому +20

      THIS

    • @stepfaniehawkins205
      @stepfaniehawkins205 Місяць тому +17

      You think kids learn critical thinking at school? 🤣

    • @Mangafan47
      @Mangafan47 Місяць тому +116

      @@stepfaniehawkins205 At least more than only gettting told one/ their parents side. Even if the school in your country only teaches one opinion, you still get a multitude of opinions, perspectives etc by the dozens of other students you interact with.

  • @s-viper1462
    @s-viper1462 Місяць тому +1089

    Fun Fact: Jean Jacques Rousseau is the first known person to suggest the idea of unschooling. He also abandoned all 5 of his children at a hospital and told no one about it.

    • @ThatC1official
      @ThatC1official Місяць тому +63

      Who needs 5 when you can make one anytime?

    • @s-viper1462
      @s-viper1462 Місяць тому +67

      @@ThatC1official "Another One." - DJ Khaled

    • @mujtabaalam5907
      @mujtabaalam5907 Місяць тому +5

      Actually the term "unschooling" was coined by New York State Teacher of the Year John Taylor Gatto

    • @Clownbabyworldtour
      @Clownbabyworldtour Місяць тому +10

      Except that’s not true. Compulsory schooling is a very modern concept thats only been practiced for tiny fraction of human history. So the idea of unschooling actually predates schooling.

    • @Girtuczi
      @Girtuczi Місяць тому +47

      @@Clownbabyworldtour Compulsory (for poor people) - yes. But for the elites - no. The elites of society in the past were educated/schooled, just like today.. for a reason. Average people didnt need to know anything else outside the work they parents did and that the kids needed to continue to do.

  • @scrollcaps
    @scrollcaps Місяць тому +1583

    I find this attitude to be insulting to actual homeschooling. Like it's a full-time job that a lot of parents take on when their kids are having academic and/or behavioral issues in a traditional setting.

    • @msjkramey
      @msjkramey Місяць тому +12

      ​@angelbabies7 you kid is a perfect angel who deserves help and understanding, but the other CHILDREN are "violent punks"?

    • @msjkramey
      @msjkramey Місяць тому +33

      @@angelbabies7 you have no idea how schools work if you think that they're meant to be profitable. It's also interesting that you have so much more patience for your own kid and that you assume the other children have the same privileges as your child

    • @mariachi3217
      @mariachi3217 Місяць тому +4

      @@msjkrameywellll most if not all the foundations of schools are meant to increase profits. Modern schools yeah they’re not but they’re still operating on those same foundations

    • @TheVeggiekat
      @TheVeggiekat Місяць тому +6

      @@msjkrameywhere I’m at we have charter schools that are for-profit. There are even a few technically “non-profit” charter schools where 1/3 their annual budget goes to the CEO salary. (That was the one I worked at. Spent a lot on the CEO/founder salary and the marketing, very little got spent on the kids and teachers were expected to buy almost all the supplies)

    • @msjkramey
      @msjkramey Місяць тому +18

      @@TheVeggiekat charter schools are often corrupt. The goal of a school should always be to educate the child

  • @moonshadowanimations1034
    @moonshadowanimations1034 Місяць тому +1166

    "Moving kids around a lot is bad for them"
    *zones out remembering all the times I moved house as a kid because my dad was in the military and got moved around a lot*
    ...that explains a lot

    • @_Iemonboy.
      @_Iemonboy. Місяць тому +44

      real - i love moving again six months after moving in!!!! (/sarc)

    • @crocrochetandstuff
      @crocrochetandstuff Місяць тому +64

      Real. I’m a military brat too and I did a research paper on the adverse effects that moving has last year for my psych class. Safe to say, it’s not good.

    • @shroomer3867
      @shroomer3867 Місяць тому +41

      Not military kid but immigrant, had to move places because better job security for parents and we were struggling hard, this and combined that I had to learn another language and that I was constantly being bullied for accents and such and I wonder how in the hell did I turn out ok in the end.

    • @Mikael-jt1hk
      @Mikael-jt1hk Місяць тому +3

      that is so not the same thing.. You cant uproot kids who have no roots.

    • @goopwithahat7142
      @goopwithahat7142 Місяць тому +10

      @@Mikael-jt1hkI don’t they ever said it was the same

  • @katelyndesantis4146
    @katelyndesantis4146 Місяць тому +502

    A family in my church does unschooling. and just as an outsider watching the kids interact with others their age, I see these unschooling kids get isolated because of their poor social skills. They're only used to talking to Mom and dad, not other kids who have zero patience for their shenanigans.

    • @lou9635
      @lou9635 Місяць тому +54

      The younger the child is, the less patient and kind they will be. Kids are super rough, you need to understand social cues real fast or you will be the weird and dumb one...

    • @cc-terfay
      @cc-terfay Місяць тому +32

      I will say I know a family who did actual traditional unschooling. The children had great social skills, were involved with sports, and all 4 kids went to Ivy League colleges, 2 became doctors, and 1 went to the Olympics. This new wave of “unschooling” is just neglect

    • @overgrownkudzu
      @overgrownkudzu Місяць тому +8

      @@lou9635 yeah that's true, and a lot of kids struggle with it, especially (but ofc not exclusively) if they're neurodivergent. and as someone who was that kid and who was always left out for reasons i never understood at that age, it's just inconceivable to me why you'd want to actively force your child into the outsider role when they didn't have to be

    • @lou9635
      @lou9635 Місяць тому +4

      @@cc-terfay Yeah, I knew a girl unschooled in the same sport club I was. She had still big troubles to connect with us (despite the fact I was usually the weird one in the group).
      Unschooling is possible, but it's super difficult and asks constant attention on what your kid lacks.
      The girl finished by entering school at 12 or 13, I don't know why since we weren't close friend but I suspect that the way she was isolated was a factor. It's hard to connect with your peers when your life is so different and you miss a lot of their experiences.

    • @lou9635
      @lou9635 Місяць тому +5

      @@overgrownkudzu I am neurodivergent and as a kid I was always the weird one. I had a couple of friends if I was lucky. But kids unschooled or from very religious families were even more isolated than me. Which isn't a good sign when the kid loving to talk to trees and obsessing on a 19th century character has better social life than your kid.

  • @nerdoftheatre
    @nerdoftheatre Місяць тому +727

    7:26 "Grooming them to accept stress?" Yes, I do agree that school can be entirely too stressful on kids.
    HOWEVER. Kids need to learn HOW to manage that stress. You can't just let them not be stressed for 18 years and then. Expect them to know how to manage that stress by the time they hit 18.
    Also. As someone who is older than 18 and still lives with her parents. You don't have to kick them out at 18. There's no rule saying you HAVE to do that.

    • @Yazzie1
      @Yazzie1 Місяць тому +56

      Exactly, I agree how school can become too stressful but avoiding it completely is only going to make things harder for them when they inevitably have to face that stress in the future. It’s a terrible foundation to give your kids in our current society, its cruel.

    • @Luumus
      @Luumus Місяць тому +53

      That's the concept of anti-fragility, and it's basically this idea that some level of sporadic stress is healthy for children to develop normally.
      There's studies that are starting to show that protecting your children from any and all stresses is making them too fragile, which in turn contribute to anxiety, depression and other mental health issues. Children need to learn how to deal with stress, with conflict, with difficult social interactions, with physical and mental exertion (within safety guidelines of course) so they are prepared to be adults. Real life is not going to protect you all the time, to assume otherwise is setting them up for failure.

    • @sorryoutlandish
      @sorryoutlandish Місяць тому +14

      absolutely agree! my degree is in education and one thing i remember studying is the optimal level of stress. too much stress is obviously detrimental, but too little stress is also damaging to a child’s development. life is not stress-free, as unfortunate as it is. and kids need to learn how to manage stress. i agree that school, especially high school, can be very stressful for a child, but sheltering your child from stress will turn them into nervous wrecks who crack whenever pressure hits

    • @Nevertoleave
      @Nevertoleave Місяць тому +10

      @@Luumus and every kid is going to get stressed. Their stress might be small compared to the stuff a grownup stresses about but that the biggest stress of their lives! Even just, you can get the blue candy or the green candy and they’re sitting there on edge cause they want both but can only have one and it’s stressful for a little kid

    • @Awaken12578
      @Awaken12578 Місяць тому +7

      Kids shouldn’t have too much stress, but they should have some stress on them.