@maddy867 why do women's clothes not have POCKETS! I literally own some clothes that DONT have pockets and I have men shirts that have designs I want on them because some women shirts are not my style!!
It's like these parents were more excited about the process of having kids but then afterwards realize they now gotta *gasp* raise them, and basically just start treating them like talking pets in their minimalistic dream van-life.
This is something I've particularly noticed with a lot of people who say they want to have "a baby" or "lots of babies". They like the idea of having a BABY, feeding, clothing, coddling, that sort of thing. Then, if you notice, as soon as that child hits toddler age, suddenly they're "having another baby!" They don't want CHILDREN, they want a BABY. It's like the people who want a PUPPY, but then when that puppy becomes an adult, back to the shelter it goes so they can adopt another puppy. The problem for these parents is when they realize that they can't do that with kids. Then the kids become an inconvenience.
@@GlitterGoreyGarbage no the comment said ‘a air mattress’ which is grammatically incorrect so I put ‘an?’ to see if they meant it. you can see that they edited their comment
Can't wait to see where half these "van life" families will be in another 5 - 10 years. "Our adult kids moved out of our van to try and re-enter society after we absolutely destroyed their ability to have a stable relationships and proper socialization! We don't know _why_ they've blocked us and won't respond, we were just being loving parents by showing them around the world instead of letting them have a good education and stable home life!"
But you can have a stable home life, socialisation and friends when you live in a motorhome. You also can have stable relationships. Hi, I’m the person with lived experience who has the right to say this!
I had a pretty unstable life as a kid. Results always turn out the same with that kind of lifestyle - years of learning to socialize, getting over social anxiety and other mental disorders, searching for sense of safety.
@@lovinglifewitheli With all due respect, just because you're an exception does not mean you're the majority. Unfortunately a majority of kids in these lifestyles don't turn out the same as you have and suffer lifelong consequences because of it, so while it's fantastic you were able to have a positive outcome from such an experience, you should also understand that most don't have that same positive experience you did.
I feel really bad for her. All the speculation about that reddit post, which if it was true was written by some kid who has their whole life broadcast and was explicitly asking for privacy, leaves a bad taste in my mouth as well. I know, nothing's really private on the internet. And calling out channels that profit off child abuse and neglect is definitely important. But maybe we can leave those kids the little bit of privacy they have left, even if it's just an illusion.
I wonder if that was her way of punishing Addison - making sure her intimate struggles are out there for everyone and their mother to see and know as a means of making her just as embarrassed and ashamed as her parents feel. Literally it would be both simpler and more conscious to say Addison is staying with Grandma or something on the family ranch. After all that wouldn’t even be the first lie lol
family of nomads quit rv life. the mom got a divorce from the stepdad, addison got her permit & a septum piercing, the son got music lessons, and the daughter turned 13 and had a real party. tbh they all seem sm happier that now i’m questioning the stepdad a little more.
I watched these family travel vlog once and never again! The children were 7 or 8 years old. They arrived in Thailand late afternoon the day before. Next morning, they were filmed eating breakfast. They were filmed during the outing all day. Then they were filmed going to a night market at 9-10 pm at night. They looked exhausted. Meanwhile, dad tried to act cheerful, kept asking kids to talk to the camera not once concerned how hot and tired his kids were.
@@JuanMendoza-qd5lm Imagine a young child who were in the plane for 10 to 12 hours, arrived at the destination around 10 to 11 pm, checked into hotel by 1 am the next day, woke up at 8 am, walked around the city in 39 degree heat until 10 pm. I guess we could say that a normal tourist activities for some family.
@@pm7128 im assuming thats 39 C not 39F one is incredibly hot the other is near freezing not that bad but in thailand its probably the 103 degrees f heat and yeah walking around in that for any amount of time is not fun
I love that fact that each kid in the shelf one got a tv but they can’t really use it because there’s no wall and the sound would overlap horribly so only one could use it at a time, defeating the purpose.
This is cruel,you know the clip of the kid on the floor was told to smile or he will be sleeping outside 💀 seriously this is terrible,hope the stop putting there kids on the ground and in shelfs 💀
My aunt lives in a van and she has a UA-cam channel. She has 2 dogs and one cat, no kids. She doesn't exploit her pets. I always find myself proud of her for that.
As the former child of homeschooling “missionaries”, my entire philosophy as a parent myself now is “you’re going to public school, we’re staying put”. It’s sick to try to isolate your kid while also stripping them of privacy. I’m sure there are exceptions and every situation is different but most kids just want friends and a place to get away from their parents from time to time.
Bragging about giving their kids routine and an space to make friends in a structured environment? news flash, not everyone can afford private school or home schooling. Nor is everyone who does appropriately implementing education correctly. Get off your high horse. Public school isn't the best, yes. However it is significantly better than socially isolating your children and devoiding them of a proper education, socioemotional relationships, and privacy. School for some is a reprieve from home @@AgentMercer
@@animemusicluver1School doesn't have a monopoly on social interactions and education. Public school is actually detrimental to both for a lot of children.
@@animemusicluver1 public school made me attempt suicide twice, it really depends on the child at least the US gives you homeschooling as an option, not where I'm at lol
I feel tf outta this. I grew up on a farm with a far right Christian family I was basically live stock, a prop, and a vessel for them to live vicariously through
Add on to my original post when we went camping they would put down the cabinet doors and have me sleep up by the ceiling I couldn't even turn on my side or lift my neck up
My parents were severely neglectful and addicted to hard drugs my entire childhood and im still glad i had my parents over most of these van life parents
She just completely disregarded the fact that a lot of people develop eating disorders due to their lack of control in other aspects of their lives. Eating is sometimes the ONLY thing they can control, especially in a situation like this one!!
This is so true. The combined power of a complete lack of control in life and having your face plastered online for the public to scrutinise seems like a recipe for disaster for these young people
That, and OCD behaviours such as excessive handwashing are both warning signs that a child or teenager is experiencing too much stress and a feeling of lack of control in their lives.
Thankyou for this comment as an late 30s adult with PTSD anxiety and more I didn't realize I was effecting my health as I was choosing poor sleep and diet choices . Disordered eating is definitely occuring within my home
As someone who was raised in a camper with 5 people 😢 i know what it does to the human mind!! Here I'm with all sorts of disorders as a 33 year old women!!
These parents will have the king size bed,their own bathroom and privacy but the kids have a coffin , a thin curtain which is apparently privacy and spme kids are sleeping on floors😢
Selling your cozy house in the suburbs, quitting your stable job and living in an RV can be a totally valid life choice, *if you make it for yourself or mabye together with your partner*. But dragging kids into this? Wtf. The kids of these families did not make an educated life choice for themselves, their parents decided for them and dragged them along. Kids need a stable environment much more than some adults do and this is the opposite. My parents actually have an RV and when I was a kid, I enjoyed it - for vacations! 3 weeks tops, usually less. It was fun and I liked our road trips, but after like two weeks I also felt very happy returning to our house and my room, with space and privacy and my friends and hobbies in town. The sheer thought of living like that full time as a kid is hell!
I’ve seen a van life mother say if the kids were unhappy, they would tell the parents, and they’d “just buy a house”. But it will be hard for a kid to speak up under these circumstances. The parents are making a living off of the kids and “the life on the road.” The parents also always say the entire family is “happy“ and it is “wonderful to travel.” this sounds a bit like emotional manipulation.
Yeah,I noticed this kind of manipulation growing up too. Agree. I would have different kinds of negative reactions towards situations and would show how they made me feel,but no one would question them, because I didn't explicitly say "It's making me uncomfortable/sad/etc" because I couldn't communicate properly. Those adults should take accountability and let kids be kids without disregarding their needs.
Not to air out my dirty laundry, but when I lived in an apartment and my 2 yr old slept in the closet, just sleeping with the door open. CPS said that was unacceptable... Way more space than those kids have.
She blames social media for the eating disorder?? I'm not a specialist, but if I were to guess it would probably be a control thing. I can't control that we live in a van but i can control what I eat. Poor thing.
Wouldn't be surprised if it's control, but also constant comments from her family about how they look. A camera in your face and being told to "look like this" "don't do that" "look happy" "remember our image" etc will eventually put a strain on a person, even if they aren't on social media.
I feel this way, and I live in a HOUSE!!! My mom chooses what I can and can’t wear, which might seem pretty reasonable, but she also constantly takes away my stuff, freedoms, and freetjme if I don’t do everything I’m supposed to. So, I eat. A lot. Because the one thing she can’t stop me from doing is EATING. And then she SIDE EYES MY STOMACH. And I feel like a fatass because of the internet standards.
My husband and I are planning on this. We DO NOT have any children. I would NEVER do this to a kid. ADD: I also refuse to watch any van conversion videos if the creators have kids. For one, it's just me and my husband. We don't need a huge conversion with bunks for extra people.
@shirashiraonthewall Oh yes, for sure! Parking and bathrooms are two of our biggest concerns. We probably spend the most time talking about solutions to those particular problems. It will be a huge challenge, for sure.
Things like this need to be taken on a case by case basis. Firstly, there are many families throughout the world that live in a single room/studio house. My personal opinion is that vanlife is fine for young children and can be fun. I do think older kids and teens should have a more stable home if possible. I live in a van by choice. I’m a single mom and I waited until my youngest went to college before doing this. I also had to work three jobs just to pay the rent on a one bedroom apartment. So I can see why some families may not have a choice. Having a “stable” job is not that easy anymore. I should mention my main job was a career profession and I could still not make rent with it………… that being said, a lot of the examples you are showing are different. 10 kids in one camper is absurd. Family van bloggers is a bit of a red flag. My concern with this video is you are promoting judging people with kids in a camper without knowing the specifics.
Have you seen "The Concrete Oasis"? It's my favorite van build as far as the layout goes. I won't use public restrooms and I want a seating area and a bed, but don't want to have to convert it every morning and night, so this is the perfect build for me. I would use different materials and maybe do a murphey bed instead of electric, but I love their bathroom. If you search concrete oasis, there are a bunch of videos. Good luck with your build and I hope you have so much fun traveling! @@mosaicowlstudios
as a former van life (not vlogging) kid I can confirm it was a nightmare and has left me with mental health issues and problems with social interaction from never having real life permanent friends
“Our child has struggled with depression for a long time…so instead of reevaluating our lifestyle and trying to make a more stable and loving environment, I am now broadcasting about her mental health online for views.”
Well, my parents took us traveling in a motorhome for years when I was in my teens because we were getting bullied so much and had bad mental health. It actually helped us. So each to their own, but for some children it actually helps.
@@lovinglifewitheliyes that’s true and I’m glad it helped you, however one of the big issue with this content in particular is the fact that these children are being forced to have their lives broadcast online for views. I’m guessing when your parents did that for you, you weren’t being filmed 24/7 right?
Except alot of kids have depression these days living in houses, apartments, etc...I think the real problem is broadcasting kids for views/not asking them what they want. I do rv life and my daughter prefers it; when she wants to settle down we will.
Addison having an eating disorder is 100% their parent's fault. Like many parents strengthen this redirect towards kids even if it's not that they have autism. Afrid is common with autism but in their situation food is probably the only thing they can ever control. Like it prob feels like everything is spiraling out of control. Nothing is stable about their environment which is absolutely terrible for autism. All the fear of a new sensory problem coming up. I wish them well. Their mom clearly does not understand
"For her privacy" she said while posting the infos online. And I like in the ad how she says that her ED was caused by viewing social media when it was more probably caused by BEING the social media.
The most interesting part I find about this “lifestyle” is how the parents are always the only ones doing the talking. The parents always say they’re happy, and whenever the comments ask if the kids are happy, the parents are the ones speaking on their behalf, saying they’re happy, comfortable and love this “lifestyle” they have no control over.
Fr. There was only like one van life family I saw were their teenager had her own bedroom. It’s crazy how these people think they are good parents. My friends when they were younger had to move immediately and the only house available had two rooms so her boys took one and the girls took the other. Their mom slept on a mattress on the floor behind a curtain. And even then atleast she had a window and space to herself. Her young girls having privacy was more important than her own and my mom would do the same in a heartbeat
Because where else will the parents be to make even more of those kids? They’re living their van life dreams and the kids are in the way, hence the closet space bedrooms.
When I was 4 my parents left the ghetto and bought land way out of town. My dad and uncle built their houses by hand. Using help when they could afford it. We had a single wide trailer we used as a living/day space. We all slept in a 8 foot box pop up for 2 years. Me and brother on one bed. My parents on the other and my sister on the converted table. It really was a crazy adventure and looking back we all are amazed we lived through it. But it sure installed a sense of “we can do without” rule to life and taught us the value of money and hard work. The part most kids can’t fathom was we had a 13 inch black and white tv with only over the air channels!!
How does sharing to the world that your teenager is having a mental breakdown good for that teenager’s mental health? The mom could have instead said, “A break from Social Media is healthy from time to time. For the sake of my child’s happiness and well being, we will be taking a break from posting on Social Media.” She did not need to broadcast globally something so personal and traumatic for that teen.
I got distracted for a moment and when I saw you at 2:04 sleeping on top of that wall, I didn't even realize it was a bit, I thought that was another kid lmao
Van life is perfect for young couples or couples who don’t have kids, but that small tiny space must be horrible for all those kids especially having no privacy
My mom won’t even let our cat sleep on cold, hard ground. How could a parent let their child sleep on the floor while they enjoy sleeping on a warm, soft bed? They don’t even realize how shameful their actions are that they posted it proudly on social media. 🤦🏻♀️
When u have so many kids it’s hard trust people poor people don’t understand kids are expensive they make u more poor that’s why rich people have at lest 2 to 1 kid . While poor have 9 to 10 kids and wonder where there money is going while kids are not enjoying there children cause being poor I be there sharing one plate with 7 to 8 kids back home and parents never stop kids , every year the mother has child 🤦♀️ at lest 13 kids 😭 I’m never have that much kid no wonder if I am rich or poor , I wanna my kids to enjoy life , I wanna give everything without worrying about it that’s why 2 to 3 kids is a lot for me 🙌💯 I care about my kids happiness, healthy then have a big family.
@@DontRecommendThisShxti think that's different, it's a cultural thing, but in that family half of them have beds while the other are not, personally i can't sleep on a comfortable bed while my baby is sleeping on the floor without even a thin matress, in our culture we do sleep on the floor sometimes but atleast we put something to sleep on :/
we had a recreational camper that we shared with a couple other families growing up (recreational, as in for recreation anytime one of the owning families wanted to go on vacation they could take the camper, we didnt all live in it) one of the few times we went on vaction in the camper all of us (3) kids brought our friends,, well that night my parents decided to get down and the whole camper was shaking all night.. i never wanted to go on a trip in the camper again, and that was actually our last trip.. lol i couldnt imagine being a kid growing up in a camper with your parents.. that would be traumatizing..
I used to live in a camping trailer with my family from ages 5-6 as it was at the time all we can afford. Luckily things were easy for us as me and my brother (Ages 3-4 at the time) were able to get the giant queen size bed at the time and our parents had the couch futon bed. My heart goes out to all the kids who didnt and dont have it good. Van life can be nice but only if its temporary and if the parents give the kids what they need.
6:50. This skit is literally how my grandmother lives in a nursing home. She shares a room that is only separated by a certain, but at least she gets the window
I came here after a video about putting a family of 6 in 1 bedroom (with a baby). The logic over there is insane. No one considering having LESS kids apparently.
The nomad lady upsets me because she would broadcast all her kids' issues online and then only stop when she was getting divorced. And that's fair, but not because the kids needed a stable place and actually space.
@@HebiHouseshe said that they just didn't mesh well as a married couple anymore. They sold the van before they announced this, I think in an effort to make it look better for them.
As a person who did live in a caravan with my two sisters and parents, I’m only really commenting on the second family. Our caravan was almost exactly like this with the three bunk beds, and it was right next to the toilet. It wasn’t as bad as you would think, I would enjoy it more than when we got a house and even now I would live in that caravan by choice. And also for your comment about them not having windows, most do actually have windows that you can open and close
Family of Nomads, when they were still doing van life they put their @ on the back of their van… literally just told every creep they drove past who’s in there and how to find them
Also not to mention that your risk of dying is higher while driving, and in this sense they put their children at a risk of death that normal parents usually don't do
id just like to say as someone who lived like this for a huge part of my childhood: its horrible. i lived in a shelf made for storage and the lil curtain i had was a cut shower curtain. i had a metal dora box and if my toys didnt fit i didnt keep them. we werent filmed, but it was still by choice. my parents choice. it is absolutely impossible to develop as a teenager and young adult when your only privacy is the 8x6 bathroom. no typo. i still struggle alot with privacy now that i live in a house with a close friend. i have awful anxiety when my friend goes in my room or touches my things. id just like to let yall know that its worse than they show. have a blessed day ❤
I get van/bus life if it’s just a couple and maybe an animal. But children need their space. Especially if you have 2 plus kids living in a bus or rv together. The most personal space I’ve seen these children get is their beds. Which is pretty sad.
Surely it depends on how much time they spend in it? If the only time they're inside is when they are travelling or sleeping that's hardly an issue. If you spend most of your day outside then you really won't care sleeping next to a family member. The issue comes from being confined to a small space but that's unlikely the case here.
That post online from the teen is so sad, absolutely breaks my heart! This can't continue! My heart is breaking for that kid, and all others like them. (I want to add also, on a totally different note, that you look so beautiful, Shira. Just found your videos today, and you have great ones.)
@@nattoralikktbh if I had to live in Harry potter’s closet or live on a shelf like an object I’d choose the closet bc at least I would get PRIVACY AND SPACE AND NOT HAVE TO LIVE IN A PLACE WHERE I CANT BREATH
I am the youngest child of three raised by a single mother who moved us into a small home so that we could escape our abusive father. We had no furniture when our mother bought our home and for the first six months, we had to sleep on the floor. Now that I am an adult, I am proud of my mother for doing what she could on her own to make a safe home for us. When I see two parent, well to do families willingly subject their children to living in cramped spaces with no furniture not out of necessity but for clout, I feel disgusted. In most of theses vanlife families squeeze their kids into such cramped spaces but they make sure that the parents have a spacious room/bed.
This reminds me of when I was in high school, my mom took my bedroom (because it was the only clean room in the house), and I had to sleep in a closet for several months. You don't really realize how bad your situation is or how much it fricks you up until the memory comes back and almost gives you a panic attack. I really feel for these kids.
I feel so bad for Addison like I highly doubt they wanted there mom to tell the whole world that they have an eating disorder, and are hospitalized. I KNOW they don't like being crushed into a storage loft and I can't imagine how horrific it is having to think about your future when your mom is ruining it, how many job opportunities has there mom taken away by exposing personal and private information on the internet without consent.
It really p***ses me off that their kids get tiny, shoe box spaces to sleep and live, and the parents get a full room with an actual mattress and space for storage. This is child abuse. The parents are selfish.
Children really need more rights a citizens in this country. They deserve a right to privacy, a proper education, and space! They deserve stability and real friendships. This is child abuse, and it’s right in front of our eyes. These kids all need to have their money accounted for (if they are featured, they earned their share), and then we need to make showing kids under 18 online without their consent illegal. These people are all so fake, and no child could be happy living like this. Having a camper for family vacations is wonderful, just like coming home to your own room and bed friends are, except these poor kids never go home.
A normal day in van Life be like: Here is Rosie and Margot sleeping in the closet. And here is Daniel sleeping in the toilet. And max sleeping on the ground. And Andrea in the trash sleeping. And Harry at the top of our van in the rain. And kira on a tree sleeping. And mommy and daddy having a king size bed sleeping😁
My husband had a stroke 5 months ago and from that time we were forced to stay in his relative’s house in another city so we can be closer to a higher facility for better medical treatment/rehabilitation. And mind you, I had numerous mental breakdowns in that 5 months just by staying in another person’s house. Their house is so big (3-storey) and they provided us with our own room and bathroom, but still there’s nothing compared to living in your own home 💔 Poor kids, they deserve to have a normal life like other children.
Here’s how our family of 15 travels in a van full-time!! First here’s Annie, Frankie, and lily on the pull out couch, then there’s Sam, Ryan, Mark, Travis, and Daniel in their shelves- I mean bunk beds❤❤❤ we have this loft area for the twins, Sally and Molly. We also have this refurbished closet for Tanya and Tiana! Our baby Janet sleeps in her crib next our king sized bed which is for me and my husband! We also have plenty of space for storage and a full sized kitchen!🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤
I feel so bad for Addison..her mom sound SO manipulative and disgusting just from the ED video she posted. ‘To protect Addison’ my ass. Literally broadcasting her life for EVERYONE to see and then sharing private issues she’s dealing with to ANYONE who comes across that video. Yea that mom is not getting a good retiring home.
I grew up watching a bunch of house flipping shows with my Maaa and occasionally we would watch the various tiny house shows. Which I always thought was cool when they had like the mobile tiny houses for like road trips but even as a child I told my Maaa that if we ever all moved into a tiny house (My parents, six kids, and three dogs) I would put her and my father in a retirement home. Bless my Maaa cause years later she kept her promise of not putting us through the hell that would be eight people and three dogs sharing a tiny home.
I have four siblings and if we had to live in a camper together (no matter how large) it would be chaos. These families are treating their children like decorations and material for clout. It’s sickening to keep so many kids in a small space full time if the parents are able to afford a larger space, and to record their kids constantly. If there is a family that can’t afford a bigger space and has to live in a camper/rv/van then that’s ok… as long as they don’t record every waking second of it.
My family is 4 kids, 2 adults that shared a 3 bedroom in a very small apartment, and it was genuine chaos, a teen, preteen, little kid, and infant. Also had 2 minors always spending time in our home to add to it. There was no place to study, to relax, just to remove urself from the constant chaos. The only place I could was in the shower. I love my family, but I was SO glad when I moved for college
@@Jana-fs2qf I’m sorry! That seems like it would be very stressful! I don’t live with three of my siblings constantly because two live mostly with their mom and my older sister lives in an apartment, and even that gets chaotic.
Living in small spaces can actually drive a person mad. Idk how they do it. After my dads divorce he got a studio apartment it was really really small & when I would come over for the weekend it genuinely affected me. I love spending time with him so I’d focus on that but I genuinely would see such a shift by staying at him for a few days or more. Now he had a nice spacious apartment & he himself even seems so drastically different in mood & happiness.
the kids names sound like an IKEA catalog because these parents treat their kids like living furniture edit: i already felt really angry at my mom when she told her coworkers infront of me that i was just released out of a mental health clinic. but telling the whole internet? goddamn these parents are assholes
Some of these names are from the Bible. So I would not doubt if they are also religious to some degree. Enok tho..I have no idea. Edit: Enoch is also a Biblical figure during the time of Moses. They love the Ark Arc of the Bible. Attempt at a joke. Apologies if I offended anyone with that joke.
As soggy cereal said 0:52 „that‘s an box“ he also made a video about this maybe a coop? And I love that the kid in the second van after renovating that has a mine craft bed
The reason the kids busking for their families income is a problem because they don’t go to school, and instead spend their time working to pay for THEIR PARENTS as well as themselves
Also they made a video discussing the prices of the instruments. Some of the bows alone were 6 figures iirc. 10 instruments + 10 bows that THE KIDS ARE PAYING FOR???
They are home schooled. Are you suggesting being homeschooled is bad and they should attend public school? Would that change everyone’s outlook or stay exactly the same?
@@RafaelTorrez-zc3wl it’s not the lack of traditional school, it’s that they’re spending all their time busking for money INSTEAD of learning anything else.
@@RafaelTorrez-zc3wl if they're busking for a living when exactly are they doing schoolwork? Do you think they're getting at least 6 hours of work done at least four days of the week? You could argue that they busk and then do schoolwork but that's a lot of work and no play for 10 kids
@@The_froggy_one yeah and once they are all grown up they should be allowed to feel living in a home, or at the very least traveling in a van just for holidays
I just wonder how stressful this would be for kids and teenagers. No privacy, no alone time, no space for yourself where you can express yourself and feel comfortable.
My dad was living the van life when I was a kid. He picked a place for us to live and let me go to school during the year, but in the summers we lived in the van. People think my life was great. I hated it. I just wanted to stay with my friends. Days consisted of holding my pee because he never wanted to stop, and eating mostly fast food. Sometimes we would stop to take pictures and spend a couple minutes at a place. At night I slept in the passenger seat leaned back as much as I could, or in a tent. We stayed at a lot of campgrounds that had showers run by quarters. Dad gave me 2 for a shower so I had to use the first one to get all wet while the water was still freezing cold, then soap everything up with the water off, and then rinse as best I could in the cold - tepid water from the second quarter. Laundry was done in rest stop sinks in front of everyone, or in rivers or wherever we could. People really don't understand how bad the day to day life like that is. It's a small step above being homeless.
Oh my god I’m so sorry you went through that. It’s really not glamorous AT ALL. It’s usually a better way to be homeless, I don’t know why somebody would choose to do this for long term
My mom has a Van that she uses for occasional camping, and she loves it. It has great luxuries and it's comfortable for her. Technically it sleeps 3, because it has a double bed and the dinette becomes a single bed. My husband and I have spent a weekend camping with her every so often, and it's lovely (we all love the outdoors and enjoy "roughing it" from time to time), but I cannot imagine having 3 human beings in that Van full-time. It would drive me crazy. And all these kids are still developing, finding their voice, finding their personality, finding themselves...and now they can't even have the privacy to figure themselves out. It might look "nice" for social media, but I bet it sucks big-time for everyone involved.
As a child I lived a very nomadic life and had no privacy most of the time. I can without a doubt say it caused me issues in many aspects but on topic about privacy. It has left me as a person paranoid and obsessive over my privacy. I remember when I finally stopped living that way I would buy locks obsessively and never let anyone in my room. I spend countless hours fearing for my privacy and how i will get privacy again next time. A large part of me feels like eyes are on me at all times to the point I double check my doors before i change my clothes. I even struggle to feel private when I'm behind a door and my spouse and child are going about their day. Please for the love of what ever you hold dearest do not make your children go through this or grow up with a dysfunction due to this lifestyle. Please don't. Just don't. if you want to be nomadic do it as childless adults. When you have a baby on the way please settle somewhere even if its in an rv park till you get something more permanent just don't do this to your child.
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The parents also are divorced
Family of Nomads recently quit van life. The kids seemed the happiest they’d ever been, while the parents were in tears as the RV was stored away.
I would've arrested the parents, called cps and have the kids watch bluey
Hooray!
I think they value experiences more
@@linzixuan29 What do you mean?
@@MinisDunyasi5 the memories and lifestyle
@@linzixuan29 They can easily achieve that by doing this as a family trip.
"We've got plenty of storage FOR US" i can't believe she said that
How selfish. All the children need equal space and more privacy.
I heard that as I read this, my jaw dropped. How abusive.
"For us" she propably meant for our family but still
Right? Wondering if it’s rage baiting atp
@@Kwadraturashe was surgically talking About her and her husbands room/closet
5:39 nahhhh cuz why do the parents CLOTHES have more space than the actual kids 😭
I noticed that to! They feel they’re worth less then their stuff it’s sick
coz theyre cunts...
Because they treat their kids like accessories not human beings
@maddy867 why do women's clothes not have POCKETS! I literally own some clothes that DONT have pockets and I have men shirts that have designs I want on them because some women shirts are not my style!!
It's like these parents were more excited about the process of having kids but then afterwards realize they now gotta *gasp* raise them, and basically just start treating them like talking pets in their minimalistic dream van-life.
Exactly. Kids deserve more
I bet that the people who were defending the parents are reading this comment and sitting in silence. As they should.
It wouldn't even be ethical to raise most pets in an RV 😭 maybe a cat or a lazy dog but Def not multiple pets
This is something I've particularly noticed with a lot of people who say they want to have "a baby" or "lots of babies". They like the idea of having a BABY, feeding, clothing, coddling, that sort of thing. Then, if you notice, as soon as that child hits toddler age, suddenly they're "having another baby!" They don't want CHILDREN, they want a BABY. It's like the people who want a PUPPY, but then when that puppy becomes an adult, back to the shelter it goes so they can adopt another puppy. The problem for these parents is when they realize that they can't do that with kids. Then the kids become an inconvenience.
My sweet toy poodle is 1 year old and I wouldn’t abandon her
This is just cruel
They found, *an* air mattress, meanwhile the teen is googling abusive retirement homes
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an?
@@cherubiaomg I’m a fan !!
@@cherubiaThey’re saying the family found **one** air mattress. Just one.
@@GlitterGoreyGarbage no the comment said ‘a air mattress’ which is grammatically incorrect so I put ‘an?’ to see if they meant it. you can see that they edited their comment
Can't wait to see where half these "van life" families will be in another 5 - 10 years.
"Our adult kids moved out of our van to try and re-enter society after we absolutely destroyed their ability to have a stable relationships and proper socialization! We don't know _why_ they've blocked us and won't respond, we were just being loving parents by showing them around the world instead of letting them have a good education and stable home life!"
But you can have a stable home life, socialisation and friends when you live in a motorhome. You also can have stable relationships. Hi, I’m the person with lived experience who has the right to say this!
@@lovinglifewitheli bs..
I had a pretty unstable life as a kid. Results always turn out the same with that kind of lifestyle - years of learning to socialize, getting over social anxiety and other mental disorders, searching for sense of safety.
@@lovinglifewitheli With all due respect, just because you're an exception does not mean you're the majority.
Unfortunately a majority of kids in these lifestyles don't turn out the same as you have and suffer lifelong consequences because of it, so while it's fantastic you were able to have a positive outcome from such an experience, you should also understand that most don't have that same positive experience you did.
@@lovinglifewithelino you don’t actually. Because a single anecdotal experience doesn’t negate the much more plentiful supporting evidence babe
Their mom: "But to protect Addison during this time-"
Also their mom: **Literally broadcasting it worldwide.**
Yep. Makes me SO MAD
So sad for her
I feel really bad for her. All the speculation about that reddit post, which if it was true was written by some kid who has their whole life broadcast and was explicitly asking for privacy, leaves a bad taste in my mouth as well.
I know, nothing's really private on the internet. And calling out channels that profit off child abuse and neglect is definitely important. But maybe we can leave those kids the little bit of privacy they have left, even if it's just an illusion.
Addison still isn't in alot of videos but they did move back to a house
I wonder if that was her way of punishing Addison - making sure her intimate struggles are out there for everyone and their mother to see and know as a means of making her just as embarrassed and ashamed as her parents feel. Literally it would be both simpler and more conscious to say Addison is staying with Grandma or something on the family ranch. After all that wouldn’t even be the first lie lol
family of nomads quit rv life. the mom got a divorce from the stepdad, addison got her permit & a septum piercing, the son got music lessons, and the daughter turned 13 and had a real party. tbh they all seem sm happier that now i’m questioning the stepdad a little more.
Addison uses they/them pronouns I'm pretty sure.
@@TheProxy066 jess updated that addison uses she/her again last i saw, it was in the comments of a video
If the pronouns are switching around all the time, maybe they don’t really matter at all anyway 🤷♀️
Addison is they/them I think
@@emmagreenland-broadsmith6841 yeah it's pretty chill, it's kinda like the verbal equivalent to getting a new haircut
I watched these family travel vlog once and never again! The children were 7 or 8 years old. They arrived in Thailand late afternoon the day before. Next morning, they were filmed eating breakfast. They were filmed during the outing all day. Then they were filmed going to a night market at 9-10 pm at night. They looked exhausted. Meanwhile, dad tried to act cheerful, kept asking kids to talk to the camera not once concerned how hot and tired his kids were.
Ngl that’s way too much for a kid you expect the dad to notice that they’re tired
Wow they ate breakfast and then did vacation type activities!? Somebody should call the authorities to help those children!😡
@@JuanMendoza-qd5lm Imagine a young child who were in the plane for 10 to 12 hours, arrived at the destination around 10 to 11 pm, checked into hotel by 1 am the next day, woke up at 8 am, walked around the city in 39 degree heat until 10 pm. I guess we could say that a normal tourist activities for some family.
@@pm7128 I'm sorry I just don't see the crime here. What you just described is essentially how 99% of family vacations occur.
@@pm7128 im assuming thats 39 C not 39F one is incredibly hot the other is near freezing not that bad but in thailand its probably the 103 degrees f heat and yeah walking around in that for any amount of time is not fun
People in prison get more personal space/privacy than these kids
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@@CupcakeKid-rb9ws Fr
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for a second I thought Candlewax was actually one of the kids 😂😂
HAHAHA
LOOL ME TOO😂
I ACTUALLY THOUGHT IT WAS IN THE VIDEO
ME TOO
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Crazy how they don’t even say that the kid “won’t be home” or “won’t be with us” but say that a she _wont be in the content_
I love that fact that each kid in the shelf one got a tv but they can’t really use it because there’s no wall and the sound would overlap horribly so only one could use it at a time, defeating the purpose.
okay i didnt even realize that and now my heart hurts lmaooooo i guess they will all have to use headphones :///////////////
could just use headphones
Have you never used bluetooth headphones?
They probably don’t even know the concept of provacy
Omg that teenager in the crawlspace had no room to sit up. That would hurt really their back and neck. That’s not okay.
Trueeee
@user-wh5ir4fo4rnah they’re gonna start hurting in their mid 20s
@@burppp.Nah thirteen at best
@@shirashiraonthewallikr its fucked up
@@goblinking4319nah, prolly alr have them..
Having 12 people in a van is absolutely horrible. For one small 2-day trip, maybe it’d be manageable. But permanently? Hell no, no way.
the kid just wanting a hotel room for his bday was hilarious and horrible at the same time
I feel bad for them for wanting that because hotels aren’t that nice
Same
@@Girlymoth some hotels are better than a president's life little fella
but i agree with you
pretty sure THEY are nonbinary
Edit: BAHAHHA I STARTED A WAR.
Also she uses she/her now ❤️
@@millies.left.eyelashess 🤡
This is cruel,you know the clip of the kid on the floor was told to smile or he will be sleeping outside 💀 seriously this is terrible,hope the stop putting there kids on the ground and in shelfs 💀
Yeah not my vibe at all
The fucked up thing is the dirt and grass outside is probably softer than that tile he was laying on.
It’s almost as if these moms are just begging to get put into the most abusive nursing home in existence so badly
My aunt lives in a van and she has a UA-cam channel. She has 2 dogs and one cat, no kids. She doesn't exploit her pets. I always find myself proud of her for that.
As the former child of homeschooling “missionaries”, my entire philosophy as a parent myself now is “you’re going to public school, we’re staying put”. It’s sick to try to isolate your kid while also stripping them of privacy. I’m sure there are exceptions and every situation is different but most kids just want friends and a place to get away from their parents from time to time.
Public school is trash, imagine bragging about sending your kid to that failure-factory
Bragging about giving their kids routine and an space to make friends in a structured environment? news flash, not everyone can afford private school or home schooling. Nor is everyone who does appropriately implementing education correctly. Get off your high horse. Public school isn't the best, yes. However it is significantly better than socially isolating your children and devoiding them of a proper education, socioemotional relationships, and privacy. School for some is a reprieve from home @@AgentMercer
@@animemusicluver1 you fluent in yapanese? Public schools are trash, and that is just a fact
@@animemusicluver1School doesn't have a monopoly on social interactions and education. Public school is actually detrimental to both for a lot of children.
@@animemusicluver1 public school made me attempt suicide twice, it really depends on the child
at least the US gives you homeschooling as an option, not where I'm at lol
Van life parents to me are the poster children for "my children are life accessories to me"
TRUEEEE
I feel tf outta this. I grew up on a farm with a far right Christian family I was basically live stock, a prop, and a vessel for them to live vicariously through
Add on to my original post when we went camping they would put down the cabinet doors and have me sleep up by the ceiling I couldn't even turn on my side or lift my neck up
Don’t stereotype van parents. Mine are great and i have lots of room in the van.
@@KidcoreEbbs no one cares about your single exceptional experience, we're criticizing a phenomenon that is obviously at its core selfish and abusive
My parents were severely neglectful and addicted to hard drugs my entire childhood and im still glad i had my parents over most of these van life parents
She just completely disregarded the fact that a lot of people develop eating disorders due to their lack of control in other aspects of their lives. Eating is sometimes the ONLY thing they can control, especially in a situation like this one!!
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This is so true. The combined power of a complete lack of control in life and having your face plastered online for the public to scrutinise seems like a recipe for disaster for these young people
That, and OCD behaviours such as excessive handwashing are both warning signs that a child or teenager is experiencing too much stress and a feeling of lack of control in their lives.
Do you mean "she" as in Shira or "she" as in one of the moms in the TikToks that were being shown?
Thankyou for this comment as an late 30s adult with PTSD anxiety and more I didn't realize I was effecting my health as I was choosing poor sleep and diet choices . Disordered eating is definitely occuring within my home
The fact they have a big room but are literally stacking their kids into shelves as if the kids are objects, makes me livid. This is full on abuse.
Yeah I agree
And that’s coming from someone who lives in an apartment
As someone who was raised in a camper with 5 people 😢 i know what it does to the human mind!! Here I'm with all sorts of disorders as a 33 year old women!!
I'm sorry to hear that. Hope you recover soon. whats wrong? physical or psychological issues?
hey how are u doing
@@ankanaghosh5163 I'm still here a mess!!
These parents will have the king size bed,their own bathroom and privacy but the kids have a coffin , a thin curtain which is apparently privacy and spme kids are sleeping on floors😢
f them kids lmaoooooooooooooooooooooo
and it’s always the 0.5-ply tp thickness
But coffins are bigger?
Van life makes capsule hotels seem luxurious...
@@wilgotspetsstromback3916That’s not the point. The parent’s beds always look more comfortable than wherever the kid are sleeping at.
“Here’s where Candlewax is sleeping tonight” ☠️ 😂
Hehehehe
I can imagine them trying getting a job with that name..
There always naming there kids with weird names like beewaxs or accident😭
@@LittleBodyBigHeart454 Not Accident 😂
“This is where Sony Headphones W-C100 sleeps in the kitchen converted into a bed”
Selling your cozy house in the suburbs, quitting your stable job and living in an RV can be a totally valid life choice, *if you make it for yourself or mabye together with your partner*. But dragging kids into this? Wtf. The kids of these families did not make an educated life choice for themselves, their parents decided for them and dragged them along. Kids need a stable environment much more than some adults do and this is the opposite.
My parents actually have an RV and when I was a kid, I enjoyed it - for vacations! 3 weeks tops, usually less. It was fun and I liked our road trips, but after like two weeks I also felt very happy returning to our house and my room, with space and privacy and my friends and hobbies in town. The sheer thought of living like that full time as a kid is hell!
I’ve seen a van life mother say if the kids were unhappy, they would tell the parents, and they’d “just buy a house”. But it will be hard for a kid to speak up under these circumstances. The parents are making a living off of the kids and “the life on the road.” The parents also always say the entire family is “happy“ and it is “wonderful to travel.” this sounds a bit like emotional manipulation.
Yeah,I noticed this kind of manipulation growing up too. Agree.
I would have different kinds of negative reactions towards situations and would show how they made me feel,but no one would question them, because I didn't explicitly say "It's making me uncomfortable/sad/etc" because I couldn't communicate properly.
Those adults should take accountability and let kids be kids without disregarding their needs.
The second kid sleeping on the floor is on the floor of the bathroom... the friggin bathroom.
*Yoinks pants off*
"Just a minute, Josiah. Gotta shit out this massive log."
LMAO@@kevinmencer3782
josiah fine asf
Not to air out my dirty laundry, but when I lived in an apartment and my 2 yr old slept in the closet, just sleeping with the door open. CPS said that was unacceptable... Way more space than those kids have.
She blames social media for the eating disorder?? I'm not a specialist, but if I were to guess it would probably be a control thing. I can't control that we live in a van but i can control what I eat. Poor thing.
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Control is the reason people have an ED. Social media just brings it to attention more. @@shirashiraonthewall
Wouldn't be surprised if it's control, but also constant comments from her family about how they look. A camera in your face and being told to "look like this" "don't do that" "look happy" "remember our image" etc will eventually put a strain on a person, even if they aren't on social media.
@@Solonneysa Good point.
I feel this way, and I live in a HOUSE!!!
My mom chooses what I can and can’t wear, which might seem pretty reasonable, but she also constantly takes away my stuff, freedoms, and freetjme if I don’t do everything I’m supposed to.
So, I eat. A lot. Because the one thing she can’t stop me from doing is EATING. And then she SIDE EYES MY STOMACH.
And I feel like a fatass because of the internet standards.
My husband and I are planning on this. We DO NOT have any children.
I would NEVER do this to a kid.
ADD: I also refuse to watch any van conversion videos if the creators have kids. For one, it's just me and my husband. We don't need a huge conversion with bunks for extra people.
That’s amazing! I think van life can be really fun if it’s just two people. It can be kind of challenging though finding parking and bathrooms
@shirashiraonthewall Oh yes, for sure! Parking and bathrooms are two of our biggest concerns. We probably spend the most time talking about solutions to those particular problems. It will be a huge challenge, for sure.
Things like this need to be taken on a case by case basis. Firstly, there are many families throughout the world that live in a single room/studio house. My personal opinion is that vanlife is fine for young children and can be fun. I do think older kids and teens should have a more stable home if possible. I live in a van by choice. I’m a single mom and I waited until my youngest went to college before doing this. I also had to work three jobs just to pay the rent on a one bedroom apartment. So I can see why some families may not have a choice. Having a “stable” job is not that easy anymore. I should mention my main job was a career profession and I could still not make rent with it………… that being said, a lot of the examples you are showing are different. 10 kids in one camper is absurd. Family van bloggers is a bit of a red flag. My concern with this video is you are promoting judging people with kids in a camper without knowing the specifics.
Have you seen "The Concrete Oasis"? It's my favorite van build as far as the layout goes. I won't use public restrooms and I want a seating area and a bed, but don't want to have to convert it every morning and night, so this is the perfect build for me. I would use different materials and maybe do a murphey bed instead of electric, but I love their bathroom. If you search concrete oasis, there are a bunch of videos. Good luck with your build and I hope you have so much fun traveling! @@mosaicowlstudios
as a former van life (not vlogging) kid I can confirm it was a nightmare and has left me with mental health issues and problems with social interaction from never having real life permanent friends
“Our child has struggled with depression for a long time…so instead of reevaluating our lifestyle and trying to make a more stable and loving environment, I am now broadcasting about her mental health online for views.”
Well, my parents took us traveling in a motorhome for years when I was in my teens because we were getting bullied so much and had bad mental health. It actually helped us. So each to their own, but for some children it actually helps.
@@lovinglifewitheliyes that’s true and I’m glad it helped you, however one of the big issue with this content in particular is the fact that these children are being forced to have their lives broadcast online for views. I’m guessing when your parents did that for you, you weren’t being filmed 24/7 right?
Except alot of kids have depression these days living in houses, apartments, etc...I think the real problem is broadcasting kids for views/not asking them what they want. I do rv life and my daughter prefers it; when she wants to settle down we will.
Addison having an eating disorder is 100% their parent's fault. Like many parents strengthen this redirect towards kids even if it's not that they have autism. Afrid is common with autism but in their situation food is probably the only thing they can ever control. Like it prob feels like everything is spiraling out of control. Nothing is stable about their environment which is absolutely terrible for autism. All the fear of a new sensory problem coming up. I wish them well. Their mom clearly does not understand
"For her privacy" she said while posting the infos online. And I like in the ad how she says that her ED was caused by viewing social media when it was more probably caused by BEING the social media.
The most interesting part I find about this “lifestyle” is how the parents are always the only ones doing the talking. The parents always say they’re happy, and whenever the comments ask if the kids are happy, the parents are the ones speaking on their behalf, saying they’re happy, comfortable and love this “lifestyle” they have no control over.
Why is it that with all of these families like 50 kids are sleeping on the floor but their parents have a nice queen size bed 😂
Fr. There was only like one van life family I saw were their teenager had her own bedroom. It’s crazy how these people think they are good parents. My friends when they were younger had to move immediately and the only house available had two rooms so her boys took one and the girls took the other. Their mom slept on a mattress on the floor behind a curtain. And even then atleast she had a window and space to herself. Her young girls having privacy was more important than her own and my mom would do the same in a heartbeat
EXACTLY like it is SO DAMN HARD to find a van life tiktok with the kids in actual beds??? Don’t even get me started with ROOMS.
Because where else will the parents be to make even more of those kids? They’re living their van life dreams and the kids are in the way, hence the closet space bedrooms.
@@Coolhotgem1nithat mom is a badass and I hope their living situation is better now.
It starts with just the parents and the queen bed, then they have 1 kid & convert a shelf for them to sleep on, then it snowballs.
When I was 4 my parents left the ghetto and bought land way out of town. My dad and uncle built their houses by hand. Using help when they could afford it. We had a single wide trailer we used as a living/day space. We all slept in a 8 foot box pop up for 2 years. Me and brother on one bed. My parents on the other and my sister on the converted table.
It really was a crazy adventure and looking back we all are amazed we lived through it. But it sure installed a sense of “we can do without” rule to life and taught us the value of money and hard work. The part most kids can’t fathom was we had a 13 inch black and white tv with only over the air channels!!
This is my master size bedroom, and here’s my child’s shelf- I mean bed 🥰
Here’s my child’s…. My child (on the floor)
Here's my child's- *the child sleeping on dog poop*
heres my child sleeping outside, dw theyre totally safe
Heres my child sleeping in the sink
How does sharing to the world that your teenager is having a mental breakdown good for that teenager’s mental health? The mom could have instead said, “A break from Social Media is healthy from time to time. For the sake of my child’s happiness and well being, we will be taking a break from posting on Social Media.” She did not need to broadcast globally something so personal and traumatic for that teen.
I got distracted for a moment and when I saw you at 2:04 sleeping on top of that wall, I didn't even realize it was a bit, I thought that was another kid lmao
Van life is perfect for young couples or couples who don’t have kids, but that small tiny space must be horrible for all those kids especially having no privacy
My mom won’t even let our cat sleep on cold, hard ground. How could a parent let their child sleep on the floor while they enjoy sleeping on a warm, soft bed? They don’t even realize how shameful their actions are that they posted it proudly on social media. 🤦🏻♀️
what if the cat wants to? my cat prefers hard surfaces no matter how many soft surfaces we give him
@@danielsmokesmids who cares?
When u have so many kids it’s hard trust people poor people don’t understand kids are expensive they make u more poor that’s why rich people have at lest 2 to 1 kid . While poor have 9 to 10 kids and wonder where there money is going while kids are not enjoying there children cause being poor I be there sharing one plate with 7 to 8 kids back home and parents never stop kids , every year the mother has child 🤦♀️ at lest 13 kids 😭 I’m never have that much kid no wonder if I am rich or poor , I wanna my kids to enjoy life , I wanna give everything without worrying about it that’s why 2 to 3 kids is a lot for me 🙌💯 I care about my kids happiness, healthy then have a big family.
@@DontRecommendThisShxti think that's different, it's a cultural thing, but in that family half of them have beds while the other are not, personally i can't sleep on a comfortable bed while my baby is sleeping on the floor without even a thin matress, in our culture we do sleep on the floor sometimes but atleast we put something to sleep on :/
we had a recreational camper that we shared with a couple other families growing up (recreational, as in for recreation anytime one of the owning families wanted to go on vacation they could take the camper, we didnt all live in it) one of the few times we went on vaction in the camper all of us (3) kids brought our friends,, well that night my parents decided to get down and the whole camper was shaking all night.. i never wanted to go on a trip in the camper again, and that was actually our last trip.. lol i couldnt imagine being a kid growing up in a camper with your parents.. that would be traumatizing..
OH MY GOD NO HAHAHAHAH
I used to live in a camping trailer with my family from ages 5-6 as it was at the time all we can afford. Luckily things were easy for us as me and my brother (Ages 3-4 at the time) were able to get the giant queen size bed at the time and our parents had the couch futon bed. My heart goes out to all the kids who didnt and dont have it good. Van life can be nice but only if its temporary and if the parents give the kids what they need.
6:50. This skit is literally how my grandmother lives in a nursing home. She shares a room that is only separated by a certain, but at least she gets the window
thats absolutely horrible im sorry, i dont stand for elder abuse like that
What’d she even do to deserve that?
Im not the only one mesmerized by the hair most of the time right? This girl looks like a natural barbie doll for real ❤❤
i promise my natural hair isnt that majestic, i just enjoy a nice lace front wig :)
I came here after a video about putting a family of 6 in 1 bedroom (with a baby). The logic over there is insane. No one considering having LESS kids apparently.
Nope. Condoms aren’t a thing apparently
YOU can choose not to have kids and be a lonely piece of waste
Or abortions @@shirashiraonthewall
@@shirashiraonthewallI don’t wanna have kids They are a waste of good money
@@Nikotinbetyarnot everyone believes in murder.
The nomad lady upsets me because she would broadcast all her kids' issues online and then only stop when she was getting divorced. And that's fair, but not because the kids needed a stable place and actually space.
They got divorced?
@banban4343 Yup, the couple got divorced. That's why they stopped living in the rv. She ,the mother, made a post about it.
Why did they get divorced? The van?
@@HebiHouseshe said that they just didn't mesh well as a married couple anymore. They sold the van before they announced this, I think in an effort to make it look better for them.
@@Spamilton1739 Hmmmm that's a bummer. Those poor kids
As a person who did live in a caravan with my two sisters and parents, I’m only really commenting on the second family. Our caravan was almost exactly like this with the three bunk beds, and it was right next to the toilet. It wasn’t as bad as you would think, I would enjoy it more than when we got a house and even now I would live in that caravan by choice.
And also for your comment about them not having windows, most do actually have windows that you can open and close
Before this became a “lifestyle”, it was called homelessness.
I still call it that because thats exactly what it is...homelessness.
They've done gentrified homelessness
Literally
@@blackcherry6877but they’re choosing to live this way 😢
@@em-nn8ttyou can chose to be homeless
As someone who is the youngest of my family and used to live out of hotels, I relate to Enoc, floor sleeper solidarity.
I’m so sorry you had to deal with that
I can't sleep on the floor I have back problems threw it out back in sophomore year I really should get it checked out but no insurance.......
I had a similar experience as a child. Floor sleeping was pretty miserable as a kid.
You know I always think to myself.. the dinosaurs got wiped by an asteroid.. but let's be honest humanity deserves it alot more.
Family of Nomads, when they were still doing van life they put their @ on the back of their van… literally just told every creep they drove past who’s in there and how to find them
I remember when I saw the video of them putting it on the camper. I was so shocked that they put that on there
Also not to mention that your risk of dying is higher while driving, and in this sense they put their children at a risk of death that normal parents usually don't do
Not me thinking when she did the skit of “this is where so and so sleep” that it was the actual family ✋🏼😭
SO MANY PEOPLE DID LOL hahahahaha
Same😂😂😂😂
FR I THOUGHT ONE OF THE KIDS WAS ACTUALLY NAMED CANDLEWAX 😭😭😭😭😭😭
LMAOOO nah cuz same though
I watched that part two times before I figured it out, lol!
1:15 and what a cruel name 😂 ( no offence if thats ur name)
id just like to say as someone who lived like this for a huge part of my childhood: its horrible. i lived in a shelf made for storage and the lil curtain i had was a cut shower curtain. i had a metal dora box and if my toys didnt fit i didnt keep them. we werent filmed, but it was still by choice. my parents choice. it is absolutely impossible to develop as a teenager and young adult when your only privacy is the 8x6 bathroom. no typo. i still struggle alot with privacy now that i live in a house with a close friend. i have awful anxiety when my friend goes in my room or touches my things. id just like to let yall know that its worse than they show. have a blessed day ❤
Only reason you should ever do this is in absulute neccecity
Sorry ,you don't have to live like that ever again. Enjoy your life now❤
glad ur living in better conditions now. i live in one small room with the kitchen conjoined with it (4 people including me), not by choice
3:25 the problem is not that they play instruments, or are in a band, but that they are working. It's not a hobby. It's labour, and likely unpayed.
But like, it said litterally it's their income, so i suppose they feed them and stuff?
Ofc i still disagree with all of this stuff in vans n shit
@@reddy161 The fact it's their income is the problem dude.
they probably think that them using the money to pay for food and other necessities is “payment” for the kids but thats the bare minimum of parenting
@@reddy161 yes, exactly children working for food and shelter, that, correctly, Is not child laibour, it’s called slavery
@@Sasuga_Skky actually, from ur point of wiew, it is. Here i stand corrected
I get van/bus life if it’s just a couple and maybe an animal. But children need their space. Especially if you have 2 plus kids living in a bus or rv together. The most personal space I’ve seen these children get is their beds. Which is pretty sad.
Family of nomad's finally decided to move into a house which is a plus for the kids
I know I think it’s because everybody bullied them for it lmaooo
@@shirashiraonthewall thats so true 😂
@@shirashiraonthewallAs they should of😉
Surely it depends on how much time they spend in it? If the only time they're inside is when they are travelling or sleeping that's hardly an issue.
If you spend most of your day outside then you really won't care sleeping next to a family member. The issue comes from being confined to a small space but that's unlikely the case here.
@@danke1150 yes I totally agree they probably had other problems as well because they literally divorced after they got the house
I feel so bad for Addison 😭 imagining not being able to stand in your room and have to crawl? Oh lord…
Their family has moved back into a proper house.
@@jessfidler2356oh thank the lord
That post online from the teen is so sad, absolutely breaks my heart! This can't continue! My heart is breaking for that kid, and all others like them.
(I want to add also, on a totally different note, that you look so beautiful, Shira. Just found your videos today, and you have great ones.)
awwwwwww welcome! come join my discord if ur down
I feel so bad for Addison they have her living like a snake 😮
TRUUEE
Yeah her "room" is worse than Harry Potter's closet and at least that is fictional 💀
addison uses they/them pronouns, i believe
@@nattoralikktbh if I had to live in Harry potter’s closet or live on a shelf like an object I’d choose the closet bc at least I would get PRIVACY AND SPACE AND NOT HAVE TO LIVE IN A PLACE WHERE I CANT BREATH
I am the youngest child of three raised by a single mother who moved us into a small home so that we could escape our abusive father. We had no furniture when our mother bought our home and for the first six months, we had to sleep on the floor. Now that I am an adult, I am proud of my mother for doing what she could on her own to make a safe home for us. When I see two parent, well to do families willingly subject their children to living in cramped spaces with no furniture not out of necessity but for clout, I feel disgusted.
In most of theses vanlife families squeeze their kids into such cramped spaces but they make sure that the parents have a spacious room/bed.
I hope you get better
It’s just
What’s the point
A huge number of these kids are going to sue their parents under privacy laws as soon as they turn 18.
This reminds me of when I was in high school, my mom took my bedroom (because it was the only clean room in the house), and I had to sleep in a closet for several months. You don't really realize how bad your situation is or how much it fricks you up until the memory comes back and almost gives you a panic attack. I really feel for these kids.
Isn’t that… straight up abuse? Also are you telling us that your house is an horrible mess?
@@FMirage2000CI mean they probably don't live with their mom anymore
Are you ok?
The parents 20 years later: Why don’t my kids ever talk to me?
YUP!
"Агатiвка" GIRL I FELT THAT FAMILIAR POST-SOVIET VIBE IN THE PHOTO AND THEN YOU SHOW THIS LMAOOOOO wouldn't even expect it considering your accent
Oh yes my post Soviet friend. My trauma is as Soviet as it comes
@@shirashiraonthewall omg i feel ya 😭❤
Oh my god Enoch finally has a blow-up mattress?! 2024 is going to be his year, thank you van life parents!
I feel so bad for Addison like I highly doubt they wanted there mom to tell the whole world that they have an eating disorder, and are hospitalized. I KNOW they don't like being crushed into a storage loft and I can't imagine how horrific it is having to think about your future when your mom is ruining it, how many job opportunities has there mom taken away by exposing personal and private information on the internet without consent.
It really p***ses me off that their kids get tiny, shoe box spaces to sleep and live, and the parents get a full room with an actual mattress and space for storage.
This is child abuse. The parents are selfish.
Exactly! The kids should get the bedroom and giant bed and the parents should sleep in the cupboard or on the kitchen counter, or even the floor.
the parents also get doors…what if candlewax wants to experiment with hand exercises…get a little taste of sausage? he has no space or privacy
You can just say "pisses". Do your mommy and daddy send you into the timeout corner when you swear?
@@1leon000 exactly what i was thinking
@1leon000 A comment with zero impact. Well done. Do you just scroll down the comment section to pick at people? That's sad.
Children really need more rights a citizens in this country. They deserve a right to privacy, a proper education, and space! They deserve stability and real friendships. This is child abuse, and it’s right in front of our eyes. These kids all need to have their money accounted for (if they are featured, they earned their share), and then we need to make showing kids under 18 online without their consent illegal. These people are all so fake, and no child could be happy living like this. Having a camper for family vacations is wonderful, just like coming home to your own room and bed friends are, except these poor kids never go home.
A normal day in van Life be like:
Here is Rosie and Margot sleeping in the closet.
And here is Daniel sleeping in the toilet.
And max sleeping on the ground.
And Andrea in the trash sleeping.
And Harry at the top of our van in the rain.
And kira on a tree sleeping.
And mommy and daddy having a king size bed sleeping😁
Having that many children when you live in such a confined space just seems like cruelty to me.
yea, you shove a kid sized dog in a van, and it’s obvious that it’s a problem at a glance
6 children? Apparently this is fine
Fr
My gag reflex activated the moment I saw Enoch and Josiah SLEEPING ON THE FLOOR!😢😡 Now, I saw them SLEEPING IN SHELVES! THEY ARE CHILDREN, NOT BOOKS!
Well the good news is that particular family was only in the RV for a trip.
@@Belibra14even if it was only for a trip those kids shouldnt have sleep on the floor or on a shelf
Thank you so much for addressing this!!:)
My husband had a stroke 5 months ago and from that time we were forced to stay in his relative’s house in another city so we can be closer to a higher facility for better medical treatment/rehabilitation. And mind you, I had numerous mental breakdowns in that 5 months just by staying in another person’s house. Their house is so big (3-storey) and they provided us with our own room and bathroom, but still there’s nothing compared to living in your own home 💔 Poor kids, they deserve to have a normal life like other children.
Here’s how our family of 15 travels in a van full-time!! First here’s Annie, Frankie, and lily on the pull out couch, then there’s Sam, Ryan, Mark, Travis, and Daniel in their shelves- I mean bunk beds❤❤❤ we have this loft area for the twins, Sally and Molly. We also have this refurbished closet for Tanya and Tiana! Our baby Janet sleeps in her crib next our king sized bed which is for me and my husband! We also have plenty of space for storage and a full sized kitchen!🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤
awwhhh! so much space for the kids amiright?? ❤♥❤❤❤
4:13 what about the other kid that was on the floor
Fr
I feel so bad for Addison..her mom sound SO manipulative and disgusting just from the ED video she posted. ‘To protect Addison’ my ass. Literally broadcasting her life for EVERYONE to see and then sharing private issues she’s dealing with to ANYONE who comes across that video.
Yea that mom is not getting a good retiring home.
As an Indian I can confirm that, privacy is a literal joke to some parents
Wow that sucks
@@shirashiraonthewallsometimes I am scared to use discord just because my parents will find out I talk with my friends *online*
I grew up watching a bunch of house flipping shows with my Maaa and occasionally we would watch the various tiny house shows. Which I always thought was cool when they had like the mobile tiny houses for like road trips but even as a child I told my Maaa that if we ever all moved into a tiny house (My parents, six kids, and three dogs) I would put her and my father in a retirement home. Bless my Maaa cause years later she kept her promise of not putting us through the hell that would be eight people and three dogs sharing a tiny home.
I think back to my childhood in a military family. We moved a lot and it was painful. I can’t imagine what these kids are going through.
I have four siblings and if we had to live in a camper together (no matter how large) it would be chaos.
These families are treating their children like decorations and material for clout. It’s sickening to keep so many kids in a small space full time if the parents are able to afford a larger space, and to record their kids constantly.
If there is a family that can’t afford a bigger space and has to live in a camper/rv/van then that’s ok… as long as they don’t record every waking second of it.
I’m sorry you went thought that!
My family is 4 kids, 2 adults that shared a 3 bedroom in a very small apartment, and it was genuine chaos, a teen, preteen, little kid, and infant. Also had 2 minors always spending time in our home to add to it. There was no place to study, to relax, just to remove urself from the constant chaos. The only place I could was in the shower. I love my family, but I was SO glad when I moved for college
@@Jana-fs2qf I’m sorry! That seems like it would be very stressful! I don’t live with three of my siblings constantly because two live mostly with their mom and my older sister lives in an apartment, and even that gets chaotic.
Living in small spaces can actually drive a person mad. Idk how they do it. After my dads divorce he got a studio apartment it was really really small & when I would come over for the weekend it genuinely affected me. I love spending time with him so I’d focus on that but I genuinely would see such a shift by staying at him for a few days or more. Now he had a nice spacious apartment & he himself even seems so drastically different in mood & happiness.
It is ironic how the parents will have more space in nursing homes than their kids had living with this “lifestyle”.
the kids names sound like an IKEA catalog because these parents treat their kids like living furniture
edit: i already felt really angry at my mom when she told her coworkers infront of me that i was just released out of a mental health clinic. but telling the whole internet? goddamn these parents are assholes
Yep! Keep family business PRIVATE
Right 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
Some of these names are from the Bible. So I would not doubt if they are also religious to some degree. Enok tho..I have no idea.
Edit: Enoch is also a Biblical figure during the time of Moses. They love the Ark Arc of the Bible.
Attempt at a joke. Apologies if I offended anyone with that joke.
Not defending them but the names are biblical
As soggy cereal said 0:52 „that‘s an box“ he also made a video about this maybe a coop? And I love that the kid in the second van after renovating that has a mine craft bed
The reason the kids busking for their families income is a problem because they don’t go to school, and instead spend their time working to pay for THEIR PARENTS as well as themselves
yeah i guess so, i dont know the ins and outs of their family tho
Also they made a video discussing the prices of the instruments. Some of the bows alone were 6 figures iirc. 10 instruments + 10 bows that THE KIDS ARE PAYING FOR???
They are home schooled. Are you suggesting being homeschooled is bad and they should attend public school? Would that change everyone’s outlook or stay exactly the same?
@@RafaelTorrez-zc3wl it’s not the lack of traditional school, it’s that they’re spending all their time busking for money INSTEAD of learning anything else.
@@RafaelTorrez-zc3wl if they're busking for a living when exactly are they doing schoolwork? Do you think they're getting at least 6 hours of work done at least four days of the week? You could argue that they busk and then do schoolwork but that's a lot of work and no play for 10 kids
i’d love to be a van life child if i WAS AN ONLY CHILD. no way these ppl are having like a full litter of children and traveling
Or two kids maybe
1 kid max unless it 2 small kids
"litter" LMFAO💀💀💀
@@The_froggy_one yeah and once they are all grown up they should be allowed to feel living in a home, or at the very least traveling in a van just for holidays
TWO litters
Ngl I like sleeping on the couch 3:50 💀
5:23 that family is gonna be like, “kids, your grounded, get in your storage cabinets💀
Harry Potter vibes
@@AbcdeisnerHarry had a bigger room under the stairs
These families name their kids like they’re hillbillies. Enok lmao
I just wonder how stressful this would be for kids and teenagers. No privacy, no alone time, no space for yourself where you can express yourself and feel comfortable.
My dad was living the van life when I was a kid. He picked a place for us to live and let me go to school during the year, but in the summers we lived in the van.
People think my life was great. I hated it. I just wanted to stay with my friends.
Days consisted of holding my pee because he never wanted to stop, and eating mostly fast food. Sometimes we would stop to take pictures and spend a couple minutes at a place.
At night I slept in the passenger seat leaned back as much as I could, or in a tent. We stayed at a lot of campgrounds that had showers run by quarters. Dad gave me 2 for a shower so I had to use the first one to get all wet while the water was still freezing cold, then soap everything up with the water off, and then rinse as best I could in the cold - tepid water from the second quarter.
Laundry was done in rest stop sinks in front of everyone, or in rivers or wherever we could. People really don't understand how bad the day to day life like that is. It's a small step above being homeless.
Oh my god I’m so sorry you went through that. It’s really not glamorous AT ALL. It’s usually a better way to be homeless, I don’t know why somebody would choose to do this for long term
My mom has a Van that she uses for occasional camping, and she loves it. It has great luxuries and it's comfortable for her. Technically it sleeps 3, because it has a double bed and the dinette becomes a single bed. My husband and I have spent a weekend camping with her every so often, and it's lovely (we all love the outdoors and enjoy "roughing it" from time to time), but I cannot imagine having 3 human beings in that Van full-time. It would drive me crazy. And all these kids are still developing, finding their voice, finding their personality, finding themselves...and now they can't even have the privacy to figure themselves out. It might look "nice" for social media, but I bet it sucks big-time for everyone involved.
As a child I lived a very nomadic life and had no privacy most of the time. I can without a doubt say it caused me issues in many aspects but on topic about privacy. It has left me as a person paranoid and obsessive over my privacy. I remember when I finally stopped living that way I would buy locks obsessively and never let anyone in my room. I spend countless hours fearing for my privacy and how i will get privacy again next time. A large part of me feels like eyes are on me at all times to the point I double check my doors before i change my clothes. I even struggle to feel private when I'm behind a door and my spouse and child are going about their day. Please for the love of what ever you hold dearest do not make your children go through this or grow up with a dysfunction due to this lifestyle. Please don't. Just don't. if you want to be nomadic do it as childless adults. When you have a baby on the way please settle somewhere even if its in an rv park till you get something more permanent just don't do this to your child.
13:14 she's saying Addison like she's just a creature made to make her money. this is a HUMAN CHILD. absolutely disgusting.