No problem! I've been on both the receiving and delivery end and yeah. It can be pulled off but it has to be done flawlessly AND account for the armor. There are many simpler and safer ways to do it that are just as effective. once we get back into the swing of things I'll get more stuff popped out.
11:27 "Unless he's really trying to be a dick" That little side-nod said everything, hilarious. But amazing content, I didn't know this even was a sport. Gonna see if I can find any group nearby me.
Unfortunately that's a huge thing in most of the other leagues. But it is what it is! There's teams in pretty much every state so best of luck! If you are in the Midwest hit us up
You guys look awesome!! I really want to get into this sport & this video really helps me understand safety for everyone while in training or while competing. The more I see of this sport the more I love it, can't wait to find a good team that's really competitive! Thank you!
It's a GREAT sport. And hella fun. And it's honestly pretty easy to be competitive and vicious without pulling cheap or misunderstood move sets without unnecessarily injuring opponents in an already dangerous sport
@@B3AR_Brother it's all good :) if you still decide to, it's never too early to just be in shape. Honestly most of our team is not even living in Pittsburgh. Some of us drive more than 2 hours to practice (if distance is a thing)
@@BachataKnight Im already training MMA and kickboxing. I know cardio hits different with so much weight on you(armor) and your trying to knockdown your opponent but I'll be as ready as I can be. I'm obsessed with buhurt but I know it will be a while until I can find a team that competes.
Thank you so much this is some great advice I especially live the tip of not choking people out it's something I worry about the whole going too far thing or not realizing that your seriously injuring someone thanks gentlemen
He is no longer one of our members. And he was a beast. For a new guy. But we have at least 2 years of footage since his removal that is still being edited. But soon we will have plenty more videos!
hugely informative. I was chuckling to myself that you were just holding that redonkulous lookin sword just to show off your redonkulous sword but then when you started using it to demonstrate things I realised why. I woulda loved to see a good old 2v2 tear up at the end of the video aswell... I'm also thinking Logan could probably clean a guy out in one chop with that thing! I found it really interesting about the differences in risk in techniques with and without armour because after watching alot of the sport I kept thinking, surely some Judo master who's built like Brock Lesnar would just rip a ravine of carnage through a team. I certainly learned alot and appreciate more subtle nuances of the sport. Your all nutters by the way. I'd love to see 2 NHL teams from the 90's go at it in full platemail...
Im so glad to hear it!!! If you can get the hip/butt under theirs and do a legit hip toss you can sometimes pull it off. But with armor it slides sometimes and fucks it up. I actually have a video of me doing it to a guy and it fucked my left knee up really bad and we.didnt go sideways or anything, just the combined weight on armor all on one leg sucked ass. Most people in the sport even veterans have no clue how to perform a hip toss out of armor much less in armor which is what makes it so dangerous.
@@vordermark89 that makes a lot of sense, much like a scissor sweep being illegal in all official formats of BJJ and wrestling because people are idiots (and suplexes). Where can I find this video you're talking about? Sorry to hear about that man :(
This is a really good video. I subscribed. I hope to see more training videos. You should put a link to episode 2 in the description. Also create a playlist of training videos.
Just be wary the rules have changed drastically in the sport and in the different leagues. There's a ton of stuff you can't do anymore. But as a general good video on new stuff this video is great
Hi I've just discovered your channel. I've liked this video, good quality, very visual and interesting advice. Here in France most béhourd (buhurt) channels are good, but focus on bragging about their combat capacities, it's rare to find training and tutorial videos !
You would love the places I visit, in the floors & walls, effigies of Norman's, Knights Hospilalier's & Crusaders, & a lot of Barons Earls Lords, fascinating absolutely fascinating, sometimes I come across Funeral helmets hanging up in Churches
I been watching vids for like 6 months now and i have a buddy who let me wear his gear. Im a pretty athletic guy lift 100lbs all day and did two tours in the Army. Cant understate the stamina aspect. It reminds me of being in Full kit in the army carrying a 249 except you have to move faster, swing weapons and have the claustraphobic affect of the helm retricting oxegen intake. I only played around with it for about 10 minutes but i went as hard as i could. I was shit whipped and sore the next day. So will i be searching for armour probably not but its definetly become one of my favorite sports. Guess all the years i spent working renn fair as a teen stuck with me.
That's awesome! Yeah I've armored up all kinds of people from all kinds of other sports, martial arts, military, and it's definitely unique! There aren't a lot of things that compare
If you can help it, dont stop moving. Be as mobile as possible. Hit-and-runs might not be as damaging as going toe to toe but you can sow chaos and look for opportunities for heavy back strikes or knocking people over who are off balance.
How small are you? I’m just watching these videos for fun. Im usually always the smallest guy anywhere I go. Im very uncomfortable when I encounter a smaller man. I feel like a man who had suddenly inherited money power and land and am Not equipped to handle the new position. And I’m 5’6” 165lbs. Lmao
@@BanishedKC I see I see. I’ve met dudes usually Asian/Pacific Islander like me who are much smaller and they are usually immigrants to the USA who have a demeanor like chihuahuas. I can only speculate as why they act like that, but I just embrace my height, volunteer for things in confined spaces, adjust things to my height, not compensate by driving a big truck or purposely stressing my voice to sound deeper. It’s so silly when I see men in their fifties and 4’10” adjust their demeanor when Viking-like men are around. We just embrace things we can’t change like our height lol
Thank you for the safety video about technique... Dang thank goodness, I only got my back twisted in a full nelson. To be honest the world needs more caution, as well as sports. Specifically awesome Steel Fighting sport, I can dream can't I?
This is the style of competition where you are out when you get thrown to the ground right? I’ve always wondered about this style because I watch people get hit in the back or around the neck area where in real life that would be more likely a kill. so is the point of using the weapons to tire people out so you can throw them or knock them over easier?
Anything around the base of the neck is illegal in every league as far as I'm aware. Especially in ours. If you see those shots it's usually an accident in our videos, probably a new fighter or the target moved. In other leagues it's usually intentional and they are just lazy about enforcing it. If you are good with a weapon you can make people submit through pain.
Unfortunately I have retired. So, there won't be any more from me. Craig Ivey has ALOT of good information. Anyone else, honestly I probably wouldn't listen to what they say because most people trying to post videos like this have no clue what they're doing and are more likely to get someone hurt on accident than skilfully. However, i'd be more than glad to.give advice if requested.
@@warpdust666 open face helms are the dumbest thing anyone can use in the sport next to titanium armor. And I'd look Craig Ivey up. Most of the other stuff will just get newbies hurt.
@@warpdust666 biggest advice I can give is get in shape first. Lift weights. Get strong. Build up muscle around your joints. Get a pell set up and do lots of strike drills. Then get armor. I wouldn't worry about getting anything fancy unless you really want to. But articulated arms and legs are good. Then a moveable chestpiece. Almost any corrazinas type that has bigger plates on the inside.
Talk to Grant facebook.com/grant.hendrickson50 Or facebook.com/groups/519876385399172/?ref=share They'll point you in the right direction in that area.
I think most of the poeple trying grappling moves in armor did not in fact come from a BJJ background. I saw a guy on some vid somewhere that was a black belt (I think) who put on armor and his immediate reaction was "no, get this off me, im helpless in this" He knew immediatly that none of his BJJ was going to do him any good in this and he felt valnurable as fuck. I think this is going to be the reaction of real experienced grapplers. What we are seeing is just people who watched too many movies or just saw ronda rousey do a bunch of hip tosses and think they can pull it off lol.
Most definitely. People really don't understand how to move in armor until they've experienced it for themselves. Alot of guys do these moves and get lucky, but one day it will go horribly wrong. Then boom, you're done.
This Definitely has me curious I've done SCA and hema for awhile. And I see this full heavy armor full contact fighting. I do full contact but out weapons are synthetic not as heavy as steel but they still hurt. But damn lol this is tense!
@@vordermark89 I should clarify I don't have any Sca weapons my self. Only the lighter synthetic hema ones. At SCA evens I borrow a friends since I don't like there's as much. I'm about to switch to steel now that I have full Armor.
Depends on the league. Honestly In true snowflake cancel culture it'll hit all the sports you live until there will be nothing but pillow fighting in armor.
Unfortunately no, not from me. I have retired after 10 years. Best of luck to all the new guys though. I'll keep my content up, but I will not be making more in the armored combat scene.
Do you guys ever do castle raids or castle defense? My dad was in the SCA in ohio and used to travel for different battles just wondering if you guys did that too? I think at penssic?
If a person with a plate chest on the back is pulled backwards with a two-handed weapon or is choked, the spine may be subjected to a point load at one point, the neck protector/rim of the plate chest, which could actually cause the vertebrae to dislocate (neck fracture). To me it seem that isn't really taken into account in the usual armored wrestling actions at the side fences. I guess that's the case until these days because nothing really serious has happened yet. But I'm afraid it's only a matter of time before the first wheelchair user will appear in the outcome of this potential issue. --- Aside from the fact that this armored wrestling isn't very "pretty" to look at, I personally think that's the only really potentially dangerous aspect of Buhurt, especially if while the neck is bent backwards, a third person jumps into such wrestling situation. That might do the worst outcome take place within a single second. Accordingly, I hope that in the future this helmet / neck bending will simply be prohibited by rules! But that is just my 2 cents ...
Maybe they will but I doubt It. Nobody follows their own leagues rules anyway. And they change the rules every year. Can't make up their minds between safety and historical accuracy. It's just stupid. But at the end of the day you sign a death waiver. You know the risks you're taking.
I have a question. What is the point of hand weapons in this sport? They feel weak and fighter that wield them are always wrestling instead of striking. Doesnt feel very medieval Idk
Due to the rules of the different leagues and the lack of skill of most fighters they have to rely on grappling because they are not good enough to strike. And Alot of people don't have the physical endurance to handle multiple fights so they just hug each other. It is sad.
@@pabloalonsolasagabaster658 they may be on a different platform or name but there's a couple videos of me dropping people with a one hander. It is incredibly difficult to do. 2 hand is easy. 1 hand there is maybe 1 in 50 fighters actually capable of dropping someone with it
Armor catches alot and wrenches your joints badly on occaision. Not always for sure but I've seen it happen too many times. And we are not allowed to manipulate armor so that takes alot of moves away :(
I have 2 questions : do you recommend me to invest myself in this sport ? I absolutly love it but I know I will be frustrated if I find it unserious( worldwide view ). do you get money by winning tournaments or it's just the name and pride?
@@mobiusmartin6482 it's been awhile since I've been up that far. Just been here grinding away trying to make the Midwest a better option for people to fight. There's been too much BS politics and snowflake attitude in the other leagues. We don't have a place for that in ours. We're just trying to build something serious.
@@vordermark89 I understand completely. Doing the same in east Texas. I’m just ecstatic to see you staying in the game. As popular as weapon combat is becoming I believe there are less and less people willing to go the extra mile like you man. Currently assembling an armor team myself although for a different rule set and game style. But I gotta say all in all I love the info you’re putting out there for people, especially your solutions to multi person combat.
Be willing to go to the same extent he is. I duelled him years ago and he willingly took a chop to bare arm to score winning point. Which by the rules we were using made perfect sense. He was willing to deal with a lot more than I and was better at his combat style than I could adjust to
I get following rules and being safe and all that… but isn’t the point to hurt the opponent to the point they give up or are incapacitated? Idk I think in general the rules need to allow for theoretical deaths or incapacitations so that it better reflects the reality of armored combat. I feel like buhurt devolves into wrestling more often than not. I’m not well versed in the rules, but I feel like taking repeated strikes to a bladed weapon should have some kind of penalty. Like in other combat sports when you aren’t protecting yourself. I feel like taking one or two solid or weak head strikes is fine, but a ref should consider you dead if you take a hard axe strike to the dome or shoulder? Idk though if that would be too complicated and give the ref too much power. But I wish there was a way to make it more accurate to if the weapons were sharp, like how unarmored combat does it, just adjust the rules for the consideration of being able to survive a lot more. Again I’m not an expert by any means, and maybe there is a version of armored combat that has rules like this.
Yeah no lol. The rules are based off of old school tournament rules used as a method of training, morale, and preparation for war. We aren't trying to kill each other merely competing for sport. That's why the armored is thicker and heavier than traditional armor.
@@vordermark89 source? If there is historical basis that would be pretty interesting. I still think armored combat with a rule set focused on simulating a real combat situation and trying to score fatal blows would be interesting nonetheless
@@caravaneerkhed it would be impossible to control because it would have to be based off an honor system. Which is the last thing they have in this sport. More cheaters than a Florida housewives group. Look up the tournament of the rose. 14th c I believe. That's the basics of it
This makes me wonder how many assholes out there in the sport would try out some of those dangerous neck chokes or other harmful techniques on purpose.
@@vordermark89 nah mate it looks rusty. For me team USA always shiny AF and well repaired. Guess it is only national team. Regional team like us looks like martian droids from hell.
@@ZodiacTVMsc lol, the guys with money are the guys you see. The rest of us can't afford to go overseas. And stainless armor doesn't mean they clean their gear 😂
@@vordermark89 I mean no negative, bruh. I understand, I only saw national team, so I decided this is trend with this crazy polish in America. I personally don't like colouring on armor. On video it looks like rust. I glad it is ok. Sorry for inconvenience.
I have one of those swords. I bought it from a catalogue. It was called a shamshir. first it was cheap and unbalanced and second I don't think they were in middle ages Europe. I as a blade smith redesigned and made one with a shorter handle and longer narrower blade. It's much better now. My question is why are holding it. It looks strange for you to hold and play with it without using it
It is a 2 handed European falchion. Shamshirs are asiatic. Very very similar in appearance. And I'm holding it because it's mine, and when I fight I use it. Felt weird not to have something In my hands.
@@mcglynn20 they're only distracting to the people in the fighting scene that wanna talk shit. Doesn't bother me, I don't pause on the field, only when Im trying to make a point and help new fighters be better than the toxic dbags of the armored combat world.
Is that a scimitar that’s been bastardized? Sorry to be ignorant, I’ve just never seen a sword look quite like that. I’m a little jealous to be honest.
It's called a 2 handed falchion. But yes very similar to a scimitar. It's basically the western European version of the scimitar. They're very common in the 1500s manuscripts
imagine you chat shit to one of these guys at a bar, then he challenges you to a 5v5. You agree because youre drunk out of your mind. The next day you wake up, remember about the 5v5 and call up four friends. You go out to meet them and its these guys. What do you do?
"Really dangerous, Unnecessary or is really going to put you in a bad position." That is exactly how I describe wearing fingered gauntlets.
You are 1000% correct.
as in non clamshells? cuz yeah fr
"you mind throwing him all the way down?"
Logan: *shrugs* "yea, alright"
*Hulk slams*
I chuckled a little . Damn lol
easy to do when your opponent is only 5ft 5 and 145lbs. thats why we used the bodies we did :)
I dont think people realize how big of a factor stamina is.
they really dont.
The impression from this video is people aren’t thinking at all..
@@CAjokeRCAtoo many hits to the head
😅 cvm😊 c. Tv😊.y. hv
You guys should get minibikes and fight eachother in armor
You know... We've actually talked about that
Do the jousting training routines with some real horsepower
Jousting
the me from 2 years ago was onto something
@@CasperTheRamKnight for real
Been inhaling Buhurt videos for days, but this one is by far the most informative I've seen yet. Thank you, gentlemen.
🙏 I'm glad people are still getting some good advice from this
I feel like buying equipment is the hardest part of "getting into" armored fighting. You definitely need some auxiliary income.
Accurate. Especially these Days
for me its finding a place, where i live this sport doesnt exist
jiujitsu background here and glad to hear about the issues with the crossover moves needing to be modified while in armor for safety, thank you
No problem! I've been on both the receiving and delivery end and yeah. It can be pulled off but it has to be done flawlessly AND account for the armor. There are many simpler and safer ways to do it that are just as effective. once we get back into the swing of things I'll get more stuff popped out.
11:27
"Unless he's really trying to be a dick"
That little side-nod said everything, hilarious.
But amazing content, I didn't know this even was a sport. Gonna see if I can find any group nearby me.
Unfortunately that's a huge thing in most of the other leagues. But it is what it is! There's teams in pretty much every state so best of luck! If you are in the Midwest hit us up
@@vordermark89 I would love to, but sadly I don't live in the states at all. I did find one that MIGHT be near me, though!
Thank you, anyhow :D
12:47 the boys in the back all stiff up. Very solid video.
You guys look awesome!! I really want to get into this sport & this video really helps me understand safety for everyone while in training or while competing. The more I see of this sport the more I love it, can't wait to find a good team that's really competitive! Thank you!
It's a GREAT sport. And hella fun. And it's honestly pretty easy to be competitive and vicious without pulling cheap or misunderstood move sets without unnecessarily injuring opponents in an already dangerous sport
Did you find a team, in your area?
@@BachataKnight unfortunately I have not, currently living in Washington state.
@@B3AR_Brother it's all good :) if you still decide to, it's never too early to just be in shape. Honestly most of our team is not even living in Pittsburgh. Some of us drive more than 2 hours to practice (if distance is a thing)
@@BachataKnight Im already training MMA and kickboxing. I know cardio hits different with so much weight on you(armor) and your trying to knockdown your opponent but I'll be as ready as I can be. I'm obsessed with buhurt but I know it will be a while until I can find a team that competes.
Great tips. Looking forward to Ep.2
We are.working on that. Got a little lazy during covid ;)
Thank you so much this is some great advice I especially live the tip of not choking people out it's something I worry about the whole going too far thing or not realizing that your seriously injuring someone thanks gentlemen
Thank you for the feedback sir!!! I promise we are trying to get more videos out.
Havent watched many of this channel’s vids, but i’ve seen enough to know why everybody knows Logan, man’s a beast in all the fights i’ve seen.
He is no longer one of our members. And he was a beast. For a new guy. But we have at least 2 years of footage since his removal that is still being edited. But soon we will have plenty more videos!
Im so happy i watched this. I surely would have barred under the helmet.
hugely informative. I was chuckling to myself that you were just holding that redonkulous lookin sword just to show off your redonkulous sword but then when you started using it to demonstrate things I realised why. I woulda loved to see a good old 2v2 tear up at the end of the video aswell... I'm also thinking Logan could probably clean a guy out in one chop with that thing! I found it really interesting about the differences in risk in techniques with and without armour because after watching alot of the sport I kept thinking, surely some Judo master who's built like Brock Lesnar would just rip a ravine of carnage through a team. I certainly learned alot and appreciate more subtle nuances of the sport. Your all nutters by the way. I'd love to see 2 NHL teams from the 90's go at it in full platemail...
Wow. Coming from a wrestling background, this is very very important advice. Thank you so much!
Definitely!!! I know a lot of guys from that background and armor changes things alot!!!
@@vordermark89 Bro I have goosebumps because I literally was going to try to get cute and hip toss someone. You saved my knees
Im so glad to hear it!!! If you can get the hip/butt under theirs and do a legit hip toss you can sometimes pull it off. But with armor it slides sometimes and fucks it up. I actually have a video of me doing it to a guy and it fucked my left knee up really bad and we.didnt go sideways or anything, just the combined weight on armor all on one leg sucked ass. Most people in the sport even veterans have no clue how to perform a hip toss out of armor much less in armor which is what makes it so dangerous.
@@vordermark89 that makes a lot of sense, much like a scissor sweep being illegal in all official formats of BJJ and wrestling because people are idiots (and suplexes). Where can I find this video you're talking about? Sorry to hear about that man :(
You'd have to add me on fb. I don't have it posted here and I have a small clipped file. Not UA-cam worthy 😂
This is a really good video.
I subscribed. I hope to see more training videos.
You should put a link to episode 2 in the description.
Also create a playlist of training videos.
As someone literally brand new to the sport, thanks for the video! learned a lot :)
Awesome! Glad we could help!!!
This was really informative and shows your passion for this! Top notch!!! Great Watch
Thanks buddy 😁
Would love more instructional videos!! Thank you guys
I'll try to get some whipped out!
Im about to jump into the sport and i am glad i came by this video. I am excited to get into the fight but I want to do it right. Thank you 😊
Just be wary the rules have changed drastically in the sport and in the different leagues. There's a ton of stuff you can't do anymore. But as a general good video on new stuff this video is great
Hi I've just discovered your channel. I've liked this video, good quality, very visual and interesting advice. Here in France most béhourd (buhurt) channels are good, but focus on bragging about their combat capacities, it's rare to find training and tutorial videos !
Great video, covers a lot of the things us rookies should learn. I just made the neck mistake during a melee, thankfully the fighter was OK.
Thank you for watching!
A good, clear presentation. Well prepared and robust- kudos!
Like a good tomato sauce
Thank you, I really appreciate the tips you gave us
Of course! It's a great sport and has ALOT of potential!!! We just want to see it grow
@@vordermark89 Thats true
You would love the places I visit, in the floors & walls, effigies of Norman's, Knights Hospilalier's & Crusaders, & a lot of Barons Earls Lords, fascinating absolutely fascinating, sometimes I come across Funeral helmets hanging up in Churches
Jealous!!! I lived overseas most of my life, and I've been to some pretty cool places, but there's still so much I'd like to see!
@@vordermark89 Yes there's so much we don't know about the past, fascinating
I been watching vids for like 6 months now and i have a buddy who let me wear his gear. Im a pretty athletic guy lift 100lbs all day and did two tours in the Army. Cant understate the stamina aspect. It reminds me of being in Full kit in the army carrying a 249 except you have to move faster, swing weapons and have the claustraphobic affect of the helm retricting oxegen intake. I only played around with it for about 10 minutes but i went as hard as i could. I was shit whipped and sore the next day. So will i be searching for armour probably not but its definetly become one of my favorite sports. Guess all the years i spent working renn fair as a teen stuck with me.
That's awesome! Yeah I've armored up all kinds of people from all kinds of other sports, martial arts, military, and it's definitely unique! There aren't a lot of things that compare
Great video! As a new person and smaller person myself, I was curious on if you had any tips for how to engage and escape grappling with larger guys?
If you can help it, dont stop moving. Be as mobile as possible. Hit-and-runs might not be as damaging as going toe to toe but you can sow chaos and look for opportunities for heavy back strikes or knocking people over who are off balance.
How small are you? I’m just watching these videos for fun. Im usually always the smallest guy anywhere I go. Im very uncomfortable when I encounter a smaller man. I feel like a man who had suddenly inherited money power and land and am Not equipped to handle the new position. And I’m 5’6” 165lbs. Lmao
@@myckeee I'm about 5'7"-5'8" at 160lbs so I feel your pain lol
@@BanishedKC I see I see. I’ve met dudes usually Asian/Pacific Islander like me who are much smaller and they are usually immigrants to the USA who have a demeanor like chihuahuas. I can only speculate as why they act like that, but I just embrace my height, volunteer for things in confined spaces, adjust things to my height, not compensate by driving a big truck or purposely stressing my voice to sound deeper. It’s so silly when I see men in their fifties and 4’10” adjust their demeanor when Viking-like men are around. We just embrace things we can’t change like our height lol
@@myckeee Haha what a great analogy. Though with your height, weight and your physical appearance you should feel proud. You're strong.
It would be cool to see more of these.
Unfortunately the OG captain wrath is retired and won't be making anymore.
We love Logan around these parts. Can't wait to tangle with him again.
Then you're one of like 5 people 😂 glad at least someone had a good experience with him.
Thank you for the safety video about technique... Dang thank goodness, I only got my back twisted in a full nelson. To be honest the world needs more caution, as well as sports. Specifically awesome Steel Fighting sport, I can dream can't I?
Kudus to you guys. Bravo
Very well presented!
awesome content!
I enjoyed watching this :-)
So in noob terms, you're defeated if you get taken off your feet?
This is the style of competition where you are out when you get thrown to the ground right? I’ve always wondered about this style because I watch people get hit in the back or around the neck area where in real life that would be more likely a kill. so is the point of using the weapons to tire people out so you can throw them or knock them over easier?
Anything around the base of the neck is illegal in every league as far as I'm aware. Especially in ours. If you see those shots it's usually an accident in our videos, probably a new fighter or the target moved. In other leagues it's usually intentional and they are just lazy about enforcing it. If you are good with a weapon you can make people submit through pain.
What are the rules for weapons? I'd love to make a War Hammer but I'm not sure if I can make it out of metal due to weight
Unfortunately no hammers. There are maces. But I honestly don't even know why they allow them. They were literally made to crush armor.
Amazing vid! Lots of useful info!
Thank you 🙏
Full contact?
Yessir.
Aspect of the Terror Bird.
this is cool . thanks for the info and making this video! i wonder if they have this on oahu ?where im from
No clue bro!!! Maybe it's your destiny to start a team 💪
Good to know.
The armor looks GOOD
Our hodgepodge armor 😂 i made most of it. It's decent
Knights of teh ROUND
I imagine this as a instructional tape from medieval times teaching recruit soldiers
Well done guys
Much appreciated!
Can't wait for episode two. Any news?
Unfortunately I have retired. So, there won't be any more from me. Craig Ivey has ALOT of good information. Anyone else, honestly I probably wouldn't listen to what they say because most people trying to post videos like this have no clue what they're doing and are more likely to get someone hurt on accident than skilfully. However, i'd be more than glad to.give advice if requested.
@@vordermark89 any link or guide for beginners?
An what would you say to an beginner about helmets? Open Face like the wolf thing or bascinet?
@@warpdust666 open face helms are the dumbest thing anyone can use in the sport next to titanium armor. And I'd look Craig Ivey up. Most of the other stuff will just get newbies hurt.
@@warpdust666 biggest advice I can give is get in shape first. Lift weights. Get strong. Build up muscle around your joints. Get a pell set up and do lots of strike drills. Then get armor. I wouldn't worry about getting anything fancy unless you really want to. But articulated arms and legs are good. Then a moveable chestpiece. Almost any corrazinas type that has bigger plates on the inside.
How do you get into this sport I live in Washington state near the capital and I have no idea where to even start looking
Talk to Grant facebook.com/grant.hendrickson50
Or facebook.com/groups/519876385399172/?ref=share
They'll point you in the right direction in that area.
Please demonstrate the 1 legged attacker.
I think most of the poeple trying grappling moves in armor did not in fact come from a BJJ background. I saw a guy on some vid somewhere that was a black belt (I think) who put on armor and his immediate reaction was "no, get this off me, im helpless in this" He knew immediatly that none of his BJJ was going to do him any good in this and he felt valnurable as fuck. I think this is going to be the reaction of real experienced grapplers. What we are seeing is just people who watched too many movies or just saw ronda rousey do a bunch of hip tosses and think they can pull it off lol.
Most definitely. People really don't understand how to move in armor until they've experienced it for themselves. Alot of guys do these moves and get lucky, but one day it will go horribly wrong. Then boom, you're done.
Game of thrones and house of the dragon has me following this stuff lol
What’s the update for 2022?
We've all been pretty busy since this video. It's hard for us to all get together at the same time with our schedules
This Definitely has me curious I've done SCA and hema for awhile. And I see this full heavy armor full contact fighting. I do full contact but out weapons are synthetic not as heavy as steel but they still hurt. But damn lol this is tense!
Most of the well made weapons weight half as much as sca weapons.
@@vordermark89 I should clarify I don't have any Sca weapons my self. Only the lighter synthetic hema ones. At SCA evens I borrow a friends since I don't like there's as much. I'm about to switch to steel now that I have full Armor.
@@vordermark89 I like the weight of a steel longsword and the sound. I get one though
@@vordermark89 I really want to get a messer
@@SellSwordSinnix-vr6xi pretty useless for melee
is it against the rule to use the axe hook to pull the opponent off guard?
Depends on the league. Honestly In true snowflake cancel culture it'll hit all the sports you live until there will be nothing but pillow fighting in armor.
watched the rest of the video, and this seems to be the gateway to break someone's knee.
@@muyodosel1658 that's why I made the vids lol to try to break the bad habits taught in this sport.
will there be a Ep2? ^^
Unfortunately no, not from me. I have retired after 10 years. Best of luck to all the new guys though. I'll keep my content up, but I will not be making more in the armored combat scene.
Do you guys ever do castle raids or castle defense? My dad was in the SCA in ohio and used to travel for different battles just wondering if you guys did that too? I think at penssic?
We don't really do sca. Completely different. I've done lillies war before, but I can't speak on behalf of the other fighters.
Where did you get your sword?
Piotr zacharski made the blade and I made the handle assembly
Do you have any recommendations for sites to buy gear from?
Sites specifically no, but there are many quality smiths out there!!!
why not just use very pointy spears and shields?
Aiden Ross in a WHOLE NOTHER UNIVERSE
Where's ep 2?
In the works! I debated even doing more but enough people keep asking for it. Plus our videographer has been a bit out of it. He's a busy guy
Seth is a MVP
😂 facts! He was always a crowd favorite!!!
If a person with a plate chest on the back is pulled backwards with a two-handed weapon or is choked, the spine may be subjected to a point load at one point, the neck protector/rim of the plate chest, which could actually cause the vertebrae to dislocate (neck fracture). To me it seem that isn't really taken into account in the usual armored wrestling actions at the side fences. I guess that's the case until these days because nothing really serious has happened yet. But I'm afraid it's only a matter of time before the first wheelchair user will appear in the outcome of this potential issue. --- Aside from the fact that this armored wrestling isn't very "pretty" to look at, I personally think that's the only really potentially dangerous aspect of Buhurt, especially if while the neck is bent backwards, a third person jumps into such wrestling situation. That might do the worst outcome take place within a single second. Accordingly, I hope that in the future this helmet / neck bending will simply be prohibited by rules! But that is just my 2 cents ...
Maybe they will but I doubt It. Nobody follows their own leagues rules anyway. And they change the rules every year. Can't make up their minds between safety and historical accuracy. It's just stupid. But at the end of the day you sign a death waiver. You know the risks you're taking.
I have a question. What is the point of hand weapons in this sport? They feel weak and fighter that wield them are always wrestling instead of striking. Doesnt feel very medieval Idk
Due to the rules of the different leagues and the lack of skill of most fighters they have to rely on grappling because they are not good enough to strike. And Alot of people don't have the physical endurance to handle multiple fights so they just hug each other. It is sad.
@@vordermark89 oh i see. But in that case hand weapon strikes can be useful in the hands of a skilled fighter. Thanks!!
@@pabloalonsolasagabaster658 they may be on a different platform or name but there's a couple videos of me dropping people with a one hander. It is incredibly difficult to do. 2 hand is easy. 1 hand there is maybe 1 in 50 fighters actually capable of dropping someone with it
@@vordermark89 hehe you looked 1000 stronger than me, and since i am no grappler, my only chance would be the polearm i guess.
@@pabloalonsolasagabaster658 polearm is the hardest weapon to use in armored combat
Wife- Hey babe what's this two handed axe for in the bedroom??
Me - 19:17
haha, I was looking for someone in the comment section that said something like that
LETS GOO!
So the medieval fight is basically gank like Dark Soul PVP?
Pretty much!
Whats that sword your are holding?
Historically it's a western European 2 handed falchion. It's a broad term that covers many different styles of swords
18:00 foxy?
? Lol
Logan my man, where did you get that helmet, it’s rad!
He got it from aleksey perebeynos
@@vordermark89 Awesome, thanks for the response! I'll check him out!
Aleksey has made 95% of our teams helmets and quite a few chestpieces
In general good material however I do not understand fear of osotogari XD
Armor catches alot and wrenches your joints badly on occaision. Not always for sure but I've seen it happen too many times. And we are not allowed to manipulate armor so that takes alot of moves away :(
What type of sword is that you’re holding
2 handed falchion. There's quite a few representations of it in the manuscripts. I can get you more detailed info if you'd like
@@vordermark89 that’s pretty cool I was just wondering where I could get one myself
thanks for the video.
Thank you for the appreciation! We need to make more
Legends
Much appreciated. Our names are whispered in many corners of the world 😂
@@vordermark89 i just started playing sca.hope to try this out one day
Nice! Alot of fighters got their start in the sca
@@vordermark89 where can i find a group that does this??
Where are you located?
I have 2 questions : do you recommend me to invest myself in this sport ? I absolutly love it but I know I will be frustrated if I find it unserious( worldwide view ). do you get money by winning tournaments or it's just the name and pride?
Mostly fame and pride. But the sport is just too new. It will grow over time.
@@vordermark89 haven’t heard or seen you since grand lakes Oklahoma several years ago
@@mobiusmartin6482 it's been awhile since I've been up that far. Just been here grinding away trying to make the Midwest a better option for people to fight. There's been too much BS politics and snowflake attitude in the other leagues. We don't have a place for that in ours. We're just trying to build something serious.
@@vordermark89 I understand completely. Doing the same in east Texas. I’m just ecstatic to see you staying in the game. As popular as weapon combat is becoming I believe there are less and less people willing to go the extra mile like you man. Currently assembling an armor team myself although for a different rule set and game style. But I gotta say all in all I love the info you’re putting out there for people, especially your solutions to multi person combat.
Any tips for dueling Baldr?
Be willing to go to the same extent he is. I duelled him years ago and he willingly took a chop to bare arm to score winning point. Which by the rules we were using made perfect sense. He was willing to deal with a lot more than I and was better at his combat style than I could adjust to
it is maybe good to take the suicidal take down on big guys or skilled guys. i like the sport its a lot of cuddling xD
It's a bad idea because you never know if something will fail or your grip might slip if your suicide fails your team is left down a man
damn i look fat even in armor!
Is this buhurt?
One group of buhurt enthusiasts yes
I get following rules and being safe and all that… but isn’t the point to hurt the opponent to the point they give up or are incapacitated? Idk I think in general the rules need to allow for theoretical deaths or incapacitations so that it better reflects the reality of armored combat. I feel like buhurt devolves into wrestling more often than not. I’m not well versed in the rules, but I feel like taking repeated strikes to a bladed weapon should have some kind of penalty. Like in other combat sports when you aren’t protecting yourself. I feel like taking one or two solid or weak head strikes is fine, but a ref should consider you dead if you take a hard axe strike to the dome or shoulder? Idk though if that would be too complicated and give the ref too much power. But I wish there was a way to make it more accurate to if the weapons were sharp, like how unarmored combat does it, just adjust the rules for the consideration of being able to survive a lot more. Again I’m not an expert by any means, and maybe there is a version of armored combat that has rules like this.
Yeah no lol. The rules are based off of old school tournament rules used as a method of training, morale, and preparation for war. We aren't trying to kill each other merely competing for sport. That's why the armored is thicker and heavier than traditional armor.
@@vordermark89 source? If there is historical basis that would be pretty interesting. I still think armored combat with a rule set focused on simulating a real combat situation and trying to score fatal blows would be interesting nonetheless
@@caravaneerkhed it would be impossible to control because it would have to be based off an honor system. Which is the last thing they have in this sport. More cheaters than a Florida housewives group.
Look up the tournament of the rose. 14th c I believe. That's the basics of it
This makes me wonder how many assholes out there in the sport would try out some of those dangerous neck chokes or other harmful techniques on purpose.
Quite a few. Unfortunately.
Somebody give my boy Seth a pay rise
I entered vidaio to see you hitting someone with that sword but useful info
If you look up the Order of Wrath you'll see plenty of videos of that.
Mb you start polish ur armor? It look rather rusty.
Some is blackened/browned. The rusty armor is loaner gear that doesn't get taken care of as well. Is what it is
@@vordermark89 nah mate it looks rusty. For me team USA always shiny AF and well repaired. Guess it is only national team. Regional team like us looks like martian droids from hell.
@@ZodiacTVMsc lol, the guys with money are the guys you see. The rest of us can't afford to go overseas. And stainless armor doesn't mean they clean their gear 😂
@@ZodiacTVMsc plus,none of their armor is actually rusty In this specific video. So have a nice day.
@@vordermark89 I mean no negative, bruh. I understand, I only saw national team, so I decided this is trend with this crazy polish in America.
I personally don't like colouring on armor. On video it looks like rust. I glad it is ok. Sorry for inconvenience.
I have one of those swords. I bought it from a catalogue. It was called a shamshir. first it was cheap and unbalanced and second I don't think they were in middle ages Europe. I as a blade smith redesigned and made one with a shorter handle and longer narrower blade. It's much better now. My question is why are holding it. It looks strange for you to hold and play with it without using it
It is a 2 handed European falchion. Shamshirs are asiatic. Very very similar in appearance. And I'm holding it because it's mine, and when I fight I use it. Felt weird not to have something In my hands.
@@vordermark89 oh.
Can I hold a big ass impromptu sword too? Where is Jake and Sarah?
Jake retired. And Sarah had a second baby 😂 Sarah may get back in but I'm not sure life is gonna permit it anytime soon.
gj
The poor little guy
New drinking game: take a shot every time he says "uh". Take two shots every time he says "um". Order a casket before playing
New drinking game. Take a shit for everyone's opinion I don't give a shit about 😂
Eh, it's fine. Most people aren't trained presenters, his pauses aren't too distracting.
@@mcglynn20 they're only distracting to the people in the fighting scene that wanna talk shit. Doesn't bother me, I don't pause on the field, only when Im trying to make a point and help new fighters be better than the toxic dbags of the armored combat world.
Is that a scimitar that’s been bastardized? Sorry to be ignorant, I’ve just never seen a sword look quite like that. I’m a little jealous to be honest.
It's called a 2 handed falchion. But yes very similar to a scimitar. It's basically the western European version of the scimitar. They're very common in the 1500s manuscripts
Nice sword you make that?
did who make what my friend
Whats that type of sword? i dont recognize it
@@louisalmeida45 someone else in the comments said it's a two handed falcion, or however you spell that
"Inexperienced fighter"
So essentially every mistake team USA makes at the international games ?
BAHAHAHHA EXACTLY!!!
imagine you chat shit to one of these guys at a bar, then he challenges you to a 5v5. You agree because youre drunk out of your mind. The next day you wake up, remember about the 5v5 and call up four friends. You go out to meet them and its these guys. What do you do?
😂😂😂
Sottotitoli in Italiano,vi prego!
I can try! I will have to research how to do this!
@@vordermark89 💪💪💪🤗
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goofy looking knights
I don't see knights? You sure you're commenting on the right video bud? We're just armored combat fighters
that beard is a noob mistake
Dawww it's ok to have beard envy little buddy 😁