How War In Ukraine Got China SCARED!
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- Опубліковано 17 чер 2024
- 🌍🔍 The Ukrainian war has unexpected global impacts, especially on Taiwan's security. 🇺🇦➡️🇹🇼 Discover how a conflict thousands of miles away might be shielding Taiwan from China's ambitions. 🛡️ Explore hybrid warfare, economic sanctions, and international alliances that are shaping this dynamic. Join us as we unpack these complex geopolitical strategies and their implications. 📊🕵️♂️
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In fact, Taiwan's president, in an interview with CNN, talked about Taiwan's strategy.
“What we are expecting is, after withstanding the first wave of Chinese attacks ourselves, the rest of the world would stand up to exert strong pressure on China,” she said.
So it's basically the same strategy as Ukraine.
yep
Taiwan in 1950 was called nationalist China 🧐 what change I wonder as the language is the same , Japan no longer occupy it soo ?.
@@user-qv2pi7hk5c The name is Republic of China. The Nationalists loose the civil war in Mainland China and flee to Taiwan.
@@user-qv2pi7hk5cnot sure what you are trying to say. After WW2, the communist and nationalist governments had a civil war, with the communists winning on mainland China and the nationalists government retreating to Taiwan and governing from there. Both governments claimed to be the legitimate government of China. Now Taiwan is more of a separate country.
@@user-qv2pi7hk5c No Taiwan has been for decades been called Taiwan. It has NEVER been called "Nationalist China". It were refereed to as "Nationalist China" or "Free China" to differentiate it from "communist China" or "Red China". However the official name has always been Taiwan.
Taiwan just looks at Hong Kong and says "No, Thanks!:".
Slava TSMC 🇹🇼
YEAH THERE IS NEVER PROBLEMS WITH MACAU
BUT A HONG KONG AND TAIWAN
ANYTHING THAT HAS UK-US INFLUENCE THERE IS ALWAYS PROTESTS RIOTS AND CHAOS
Hong Kong was under a contract, as a free-trade zone with the UK, it was always recognized as a part of China that would one day be returned, as per the agreement. So there is a difference there with Taiwan.
@@VenturiLifeYeah, no. CCP was quick to renege in their part of the contract, namely ignoring the "one nation, two party" system with Hong Kong that was agreed upon with the hand-off from the UK. Mainland China liars.
@@VenturiLife I don't think you quite grasp what the discussion is about.
There are many “paper” super powers but there is only one real one, WALES 🏴🏴🏴
Just biding their time for the perfect moment to loose their ponies and javelins.
Its a place in the UK I would like to visit. London, I hope (no offense) to get out of there as soon as I can.
Yeah. Wales is the mew usa huh?
@@jackwalker9492 In the words of the 12th Doctor Who, "LONDON! What a dump!"
More afraid of whales than I am Wales
How could the Ukrainians not appreciate being starved by the Soviet union? Ungrateful
That's why many Ukrainians moved to CANADA back then 👀
Yeah, and only after 8(!) years after the Holodomor (1932-1933) - Nazis come, and everyone question "How did Nazi managed to go through the Soviet Union so fast and so deep?"... It's not about Ukrainians being nazis, this is about choosing between two evils and revenge.
@@robertsiwek7503 contribution of Ukrainians was a gift for ussr. if you will not be biased and check who was the father of ussr space program as well as various scientists who contributed into development of various planes, helicopters etc you'll find among them many Ukrainians. So your complain has no solid ground
Ah, Russia. Stealing all of Ukraine's grain back in the day and starving thousands of Ukrainians in a deliberate Holdomor Famine.
@@Booz2020 that sucks. They went from one abusive place to another
Also, China hasn't fought a war in a while
and never a modern one
China prefers to fight civil wars.
@@robertsiwek7503Vietnam in the 70s
@@phunk8607 In which they didn't do so well...
Plus China has to cross 80 miles of ocean to land troops in Taiwan.
Recently I have been more aware of the stuff I buy and the products I use, I have been trying as best as possible to avoid anything from China, and I encourage others to do the same. I am not anti-Chinese, just anti-CCP
Slava TSMC 🇹🇼
ccp just dicates policy. chinese make the products.. so you are just contradicting yourself.
You should do some research in were 95% of US and EU rare earth minerals come from
..AND YOUN OUT THAT YOU CANNOT AVOID IT ENTIRELY.
Because of their subsidies and low wages, buying from china hurts them more than you, in the long term.
We stand on the brink of conflict, prepared to unleash the full force of our resolve. The fiery spirit of the Filipino people burns within us, ready to demonstrate our strength and fearlessness in the face of adversity. While you, the Chinese, may cower in fear of harm, we stand unflinching in the face of danger, willing to sacrifice everything for our beliefs and our people. Let it be known that if war should come, we will mete out destruction with unprecedented precision and strategy, proving that the Filipinos are a force to be reckoned with. Our resolve is unwavering, our courage unshakeable. We are warriors, ready to defend our land and our honor at any cost.
If there is One China, then Taiwan is already independent.
From The mountains to the Strait and to the Seas, 🇹🇼 Always Be Free 💯
"FREE WORLD" IS CODE FOR BEING A SERVANT OF USA AND EUROPE
So, why the elected government on the island Taiwan is the Republic of China?
Ummm yes i hope so.@Booz2020
too bad taiwan's law say otherwise, but we all know cowboy dont abide to law, have you took enough food from your local store to survive the week end?
Taiwan is surrounded by water...... it's not the same. Invading an island vs just walking pass a boarder is vastly different.
Also, militarily, Taiwan is in much more prepared than Ukraine was. Comparatively speaking, Ukraine was practically unarmed prior to the start of the war. Meanwhile Taiwan has been stockpiling US military surplus for decades in preparation for a Chinese invasion.
And Taiwan gets hit by typhoons frequently. Those really can screw up an invasion or resupply of a beach head. It's hard to predict weather more than a few days in advance and an invasion that would take months, even if successful, would be at the mercy of Mother Nature.
@@CJ-442 ukraine was getting military assistance and training from nato since 2014
@@mkgzt - I know, that’s why I said “comparatively”. Yes, some Ukrainian troops were receiving training, and some NATO materials were being delivered to their military, but nowhere near as much as Taiwan has been buying and not for nearly as long.
@@mkgzt Oh yes, the 1 brigade that received NATO training and weapons was equivalent to the entire Russian army!
These polls shouldn't ask what people identify as. They should just ask, "would you like to live under Chinese rule". You'll get a very one sided answer 😂
I say yes. They are living in the future, the USA is living in the past.
No, they should ask, "would you like to live like Ukrainians?"
Ethnic identity is different from government. Many Singaporeans and Malaysians would identify ethnically as Han Chinese. They don't consider themselves citizens of PRC.
@@sarahjenkins7064 Under a @azi dictatorship??
@dcc70 Dose it really matter? China can take Taiwan. Russia has crushed Ukraine and by the time it's over? NATO will be history at last. This isn't a Hollywood movie, this is reality.
No one knew David could actually defeat Goliath, they thought it was just a tale... This terrifies China...
I can see you're being quite Delusional
Less about defeat and just making it so bloody its not even worth it. With the world backing them and the US the long term benefit is virtually nonexistent for anybody@gonzalovillarroelmadrid6227
that's stupid! the only thing that can get in the way is if China want a freeze of their business model for 30 yrs and by that time! who knows what will happen to other country who is happy and waiting for their chance to grow (Vietnam, India, Mexico, etc)! Is China willing to break a Golden Egg in their pocket for a goal that might or might not be crucial unless Taiwan start saying stuff like "Independent"!
@@gonzalovillarroelmadrid6227 Scared that your Belt and Road Initiative looks more like Shoelaces and Cardboard?
Slava 🇹🇼 Geroyam TAIWANese 🦾
As my coworker from Taiwan have told me. He said the Taiwanese is ethnically Chinese, but we Taiwanese ain't no f'n Chinaman.
Slava 🇹🇼 Geroyam TAIWANese 🦾
btw. taiwan's official name is china and its constitution says it's part of mainland.
@@levelaznDoes it say that the mainland is part of Taiwan?
@@bogususer2595 yes it does
@@bogususer2595 mainland is a region consist of many province, taiwan is a province, the constitution regard both as part of china, neither is part of the other.
Mongolia has a claim on most of China, including Beijing 😅😅
That same claim also covers Russia.
Macedonia calls dips
mongolia has no claim, because they independent out of china with the help of soviet union, so they give up whatever claim they might even have, Qing China was recognised by the west, and than inherited by Republic of China, and losing a civil war, ROC claim goes to PRC, there are more mongolian in PRC than in mongolia, and the birth place of Genghis Khan is in PRC, just like the founding father of ROC, his tomb is in PRC, every year ROC president will have to stand infront of a photo of a Chinese, and vow to unite China, modernised china. LOL, taiwanese has their passport "China" and citizen: Chinese, live under Chinese constitution, swearing weekly their loyalty to a chinese flag.
China would actually love that
The political regime that currently runs China has never had a presence in Taiwan. If anything Taiwan has a Claim over China rather than the other way around.
FACT 😂
This guy LIES all the way through this he has no idea at all and is a paid Gaslight liar
Also, Ukraine came into existence only from the escaping SS N A Z I At end of ww2 they stole Russian mother land spill and are still stranded today
All the cultural heritage artifacts of Chinese history are in Taiwan. I believe that in their revolution that the people of mainland China divorced themselves from their own identifying heritage.
Taiwan holds the legitimate government of China. The CCP were mainly a youth movement
Another consideration is that the Russian army had experience in Afghanistan, Georgia, and Chechnya wars. Chinese are far away from that.
Exactly, asides from minor scuffles on the Indian border and a couple of other places, where they absolutely looked like fools.
Ukrainian also has lots of experience, bombing their own citizen because they speak russian for years.
as for "taiwanese", maybe you should learn a bit mandarin and go watch how taiwanese rate their own military.
a retired taiwanese general once said, if an interceptor missile has 70% success rate, shoot 3, you got 210% chance of downing incoming missile...
yes, experience
Scary thing is, Ukraine is using mostly old 1990-2000 US equipment. I imagine the US has about 50000 AI drones that will sink anything that tries to cross the sea.
Heck, unlike Ukraine, Taiwan has pre-existing defense treaty with the US. The moment China shows even the slightest hint of troop build-up, the US will be on China like white on rice.
Taiwan has stockpile of a couple of thousand supersonic antiship missiles
Your profile picture is the America itself
Imagine... Is the key word here
Facts
I expect to see movies about Ukraine and Taiwan in the 2080s
just watch civil war, its in 2024
Both Chinese and Taiwanese identities are valid and not mutually exclusive. The more critical question is whether you prefer to be governed by an authoritarian communist regime or a democratically elected government.
I find it strange that people equate being Chinese with the country of China and the authoritarian communist regime of the CCP. These are not the same. One can be Chinese and still desire a democratically elected government. The CCP is merely a governing body and does not represent the Chinese people or their culture. Chinese people who immigrate to the U.S. remain culturally Chinese, even though they have a different passport and align with a different government. This distinction is just basic critical thinking.
The CCP has been waging a disinformation campaign to confuse people, positioning itself as the de facto governing body of the "Chinese people." This is similar to the Pope wielding guns and nuclear bombs.
Any of the “Chinese” from Taiwan I know call themselves “Taiwanese”.
Slava 🇹🇼 Heroyam TAIWANese 🦾
do you think china would want to be governed by a system that prioritizes national unity. or a government that forgoes it and champions sedition?
@@levelazn China, like any large group of people, has a wide range of perspectives. This diversity, however, is often obscured by the CCP's disinformation campaign, which promotes a "unified view of the Chinese people."
@@levelazn
When you say “do you think China…” are you referring to the government or people of China?
Assuming it stands now, China’s government is “unifying” the people by the iron fist. As for the people, do we as “outsiders”, really know what they want?
If they did speak out against the government we believe these people will be detained and punished.🤷🏼
It is abundantly clear that Russia is the GOLD Medal winner of the paper tiger Olympics. 👍
Western media: China is afraid of Taiwan
China: I’m afraid we’re running out of fuck given.
Forget Taiwan; China would be smart to grab a bit of Russia. No one would stop them.
In a different way they are grabbing it all 😂😂😂 water , oil , petrol , gas .
Russia is completely dependent on China , all trade routes lead to China ( pipelines, commerce, etc )
Putin is hoping that his new "mutual defense" treaty with Kim will help in such an aggression. Yes, he's that desperate.
the Russians are actually very worried about that, and apparently have no qualms about using tactical nukes in that event. Probably just local, but still, they are much less queasy about using Nukes in the Sibirian tundra than they are about using them in Europe.
They have been given a bit. River between ruzzia and North Korea- China getting that. Means they have sea access
@@vanidar21 russian and chinese are wary of each other, untill usa say: fk it, i gonna push you 2 into alliance.
Getting across to Taiwan is the hard part that China cannot succeed at. Amphibious invasions are the hardest and China lacks any way of pulling off any amphibious assault.
We hope they will not try.
China would create political instability before an attack. Instead of an open naval landing operation they would probably try a blockade first, to cut of Taiwan from international supply. Coupled with some political manouvers to keep at least some of the states in the region neutral.
The most important and obvious difference between the Ukraine War and a potential invasion of Taiwan is that Taiwan is an island. An attempt to take control of Taiwan by military force would require an amphibious invasion of the island. In Ukraine, all the Russians were required to do was roll their vehicles and troops across a flatland border using existing roads and infrastructure. An amphibious invasion of Taiwan or any other island nation, or for that matter across any seacost, is at least an order of magnitude more difficult than a land warfare invasion.
Since the debacle at Gallipoli in WWI, the only nation that has conducted successful amphibious operations has been the United States, sometimes with allies, sometimes not. It has taken the United States Navy and Marine Corps team over a hundred years of intensive experimentation and practical experience to develop the highly specialized vessels, ship-to-shore air and sea craft, weapons and tactics required to successfully conduct such a very complex and difficult operation. The Chinese are trying to develop this capability by copying US methods and tactics, but its doubtful that they will have it sooner than ten, and more likely twenty years from now.
The greatest safeguard against an amphibious invasion of Taiwan is that US and Allied attack submarines and submarine-laid mines would devastate any Chinese amphibious forces long before they could reach Taiwan. A formidable dormant sub-surface marine minefield may indeed already be in place, waiting only for an activating signal to arm them to protect all seaborne avenues of approach to Taiwan. Trying to pass an amphibious fleet with its escorts through Allied or American fast attack submarine screens and sub-surface minefields would constitute a monumental suicide mission by the Chinese invaders. For the submarine forces of the defenders it would be a repeat of the Marianas Turkey Shoot in 1944. For submariners, it would like be shooting fish in a barrel.
So, I think Zhi and his naval general staff are fully aware of the foolhardiness of attempting an amphibious invasion of Taiwan. Any threatening talk coming out of China about taking Taiwan by force is just so much bluff and bluster designed to intimidate the Taiwanese government and people into capitulating to the PRC's demands for unification.
Not only that, Taiwan has been preparing defenses for just such a scenario the last 70 years. The PLA won't dare to launch a mission with such low probability of success, unless they're forced to by Xi. Then they might decide to get rid of Xi, rather than drown in the Taiwan strait.
@@dcc70China has also been preparing for last 70 years. Taiwan will never declare independence without the help from the American.
And Taiwan would have seen what Ukraine did to the black sea fleet (which is practically nonexistent in this war anymore due to fear of more losses). Sea drones are a high danger for any bigger ship even hundreds of miles away. And Taiwan should be able to produce some better versions (e.g. sleeping drones right under the surface, only waiting for awaking). Another thing is, that Taiwan is easily able to cut off any sea freight from China by such drones, subs etc. Ony two or three sunken container vessels are enough that no insurance will ever protect their owners.
@@DreamEater-cb2cl The Taiwanese have been electing their own leaders for the past 70 years, so they are already independent in everything but name. The CCP will never conquer Taiwan. 臺灣萬歲!
We love ❤️ Taiwan 🇹🇼 ❤
Ok, but there is one China, the Republic of China, more commonly known as Taiwan. And the rebellious ‚West-Taiwan‘.
And we stand with Taiwan 💪
Copium
You mean 🇨🇳 is WEST Taiwan ❓
Stand with Taiwan
@@user-cr3vi7it3x says the one who copes 💀
If Taiwanese are smart theyd send covert units to Ukraine to learn Drone warfare. Highly skilled operators will be prized
Ukrainian drone operators are the scariest thing in modern warfare right now
Taiwan should also aid Ukraine in whatever way they can without compromising their own defense. If Ukraine should prevail against Russia, they'll be a valuable ally for their battlefield expertise.
The Taiwanese military is leagues beyond what the Ukranian one was in 2022. The only benefit that China really has over Taiwan is population, but with the way thing are going internally they will have trouble finding willing soldiers to fight if a war does break out.
@@ksl-988 Russia is just 4 times more populous than Ukraine. On the other hand, China is 50 times more populous than Taiwan!
Not to mention Taiwan is much more smaller than Ukraine. In fact, Taiwan is about the size of Russian occupied Luhansk, Donetsk, and Zaporizhzhia !
@@aira4739 That's true, but because of China's One Child Policy, the CCP army & navy are made of little emperors. Every soldier killed in battle means the end of a Chinese surname. This terrifies the Chinese.
China has way more problems with their economy and the state of their military to even count. From the collapse of their real estate industry heavily tied to their gdp, widespread corruption in every sector of governance, massive environmental and agricultural issues to in fighting within the Chinese communist party their country is on the brink of collapse. They are still ignoring the covid epidemic which is still widespread and killing so many people they feel the need to comprehensively cover any mention of it up. China is in an even worse position than Russia was before the invasion of Ukraine so moving forward I don't think Xi the Pooh has the balls to invade Taiwan.
It was the Unmanned Hellscape Protocol.
I think The ChiComms are reconsidering their options
Russias failure of the 3 day SMO was the following:
1.: Only some few field commanders knew the plans, and some around Putlers inner circle - Most soldiers did not know where they where until they left vehicles, or got shot at...
2.: There was no supplies for any invasion, not even a 3 day SMO, there was only supplies for the local camps close to the borders.
3.: The VDV, the glorified special forces, was sent inn with little to no support, they got dropped off at Antonov Airport.
For some reason, the Antonov 225 was still there, even with knowhow about the coming assault.
4.: Russian troops does not train to use guns, the conscripts is used by civilians, to construct roads, and nearly no paychecks trickles down to the regular troops due to extrem high corruption.
And, since Russia does not pick up the dead...they are MIA, there is even traincharts full of dead Russians, that Russia refuses to collect...and since they are MIA, Russia does not need to pay those whom lost someone in the "3 day SMO", that on the last official documents from Kremlin, has some 280.000 confirmed dead (April) - (departments asking for money to families of those whom died in the SMO)..
Don't pick up the Dead according to who?
Why cant we all love eachother the same way God loves us?
Thanks for the update. MUGA!
Stop that
Yes prigo told the truth about the false justifications for the invasion stay strong Ukraine 🇺🇦
@@madmaxfzz ?
If Britain had grown a pair and taken back Hong Kong when China violated its British contract about keeping Hong Kong as a democracy,maybe China today wouldn't be so embolden and Taiwan when be under a threat?
Britain has never been afraid of any country nor is it afraid of China. However, it's unclear what benefit it would be to Britain to go to war with China on behalf of HK and supply lines are simply too far for Britain to engage in a conflict that far from home.
The UK recognized the PRC in Jan 1950. That's right. Jan 1950. The UK itself never considered TW to be the UK's problem.
It’s hard to imagine how anyone who thinks going to war is a matter of growing a pair has any understanding of anything at all
Hong Kong should be independent, not under the british "empire"
@@technobladeleakedclips1827 Independent of PRC you mean, or do you?
The only thing that holding back China to invade Taiwan all these years, is risk vs profit calculation. Over the past decade, there were never an immediate threat to China imposed by Taiwan, or an immediate profit for China to annex Taiwan, or the gain for China if it decides to invade anyway is not equal to the risk. It has nothing to do at all with Russia-Ukraine war, because those consideration was already happening even if Russia-Ukraine war didnt happen. If anything, I'd argue that as a state, this a great time to invade Taiwan in the heat of Russia-Ukraine war, where all eyes focused there PLUS the reignited international sensation of Israel-Hamas war. However as an individual, I do not wish that to be happen since both are key players in international economy and it could cause a massive damage in international market.
No war is already a win for both. It's a fool hardy for China to use force to unify Taiwan
Taiwas was part of China since ancient time! Spanish and Dutch Empire waving to China.. who 1st conquered Taiwan before chinese pirates able kicked Dutch in Taiwan.
So: what is Tibet guilty of - besides having temples, monks, libraries, and A Lot of water?
Not really guilty, but it comes from treaties and relationship with the Yuan and Qing Emperors. Essentially, when the Mongols conquered Tibet and the rest of Asia in 1254, the Dalai Lama became the spiritual advisor to the Khan (who then became the Yuan emperors). They largely retained autonomy because of Tibet's geography, although they did have a secular governor. This relationship continued for the Qing dynasty, and they were considered a protectorate of China.
The Dalai Lama maintains that they are the sovereign leader of Tibet and that they are in a priest-and-patron relationship with the Chinese leader; whereas China interprets the relationship with Tibet being a vassal state.
It's a simplification, but you can compare it to the Byzantine Papacy between Beijing (Byzantium) and Lhasa (Rome), but for Buddhism.
It's not really any different than when Ruzzia went into Crimea. China claimed Tibet as theirs & the world so afraid of another World War looked the other way. If Ukraine hadn't fought so well & brave that first month while the world watched Taiwan, it would have already been attacked. The West only sent in aid "for defense only" after the initial defense and has only trickle fed Ukraine ever since. It's only after over 2 years of fighting that it looks like the West will finally give Ukraine enough to actually kick ruzzia out & win. Don't get me wrong, I don't want a WW3 but sometimes you have to fight. When the west let China & ruzzia take over territories & countries without any backlash (little sanctions don't count), all it did was empower the world's bully nations to do the same or more. Threats of repercussions mean nothing if you don't follow through.
The question is not Taiwan belongs to China since ancient time but Taiwan WAS China before PRC was. There is only one China and that is Republic of China. It was ROC who replaced the Manchu Qing empire, it was the ROC who defeated Japan during WW2.
Who ever wins the war gets to depict there opponent as week and evil
Good 👍🏻 Ukraine and Pakistan zindabad 🦁
It seems naked aggression can expose a Nation to the World...
thats how us was exposed as morally corrupt
There's an important clarification that could be seen as a significant oversight: the Maidan Revolution occured before the war. To say that Ukraine had a positive opinion of Russia before the war is fairly misleading. Some did, but they were in the minority and were running out of influence.
Taiwan owes Ukraine more than they can repay!
Daily reminder that Taiwan is an independent country.
if it were, there would be a war already
$250 precision guided hand grenades on the battlefield is a scary prospect for anyone. Think about the amount of them able to be pumped onto a battlefield at any given time. How we manufacture ways to unalive one another is both creative genius and depressing at the same time.
Creates a level battlefield, but we lose another brother..... And the value to the life lost is WELL OVER $250....... Hard to assign a value, but how easily that person on the battlefield that life is extinguished, could have easily been you or I.
I hope ourselves and the fellow G7 nations, as well as anyone who respects a chance to create a way of life that isn't fully based on bad faith can out maneuver the world from needless loss of life.
I hear you and am retired Infantry. I love to watch DARPAs contributions and as much as I hate big government and think we need to reduce it massively, I would love to see a Civilian agency like DARPA. CARPA just doesnt have a good ring to it LOL.
Many in Taiwan actually supported reunification with China. But the CCP's very brash treatment of Hong Kong really spooked what was left of the pro union movement
They make a move on them an it'll all kick off big time, silicon chip prices will rocket, an the world will go barmy over it
Barney! Barney Rubble?! Trouble!
@@Tigerman1138 an plenty of it too mush aye 🤣 🤣 🤣 👍
Once again very interesting research. This channel is absolutely top notch!
Because they have the ghost of taipei
On one side, the Chinese are not completely wrong - the dawn of Taiwan was more of a Chinese internal affair that they seem to suggest nowadays, but it was indeed a breakaway province.
On the other, they seem pretty naïve in ignoring that there is such thing as a "speciation of nation-states" - long term political division leading to cultural and procedural differences that makes a reunion unlikely if not outright impossible.
A sizeable part of currently existing states - all of Africa, all of South America, all of North America, Australia, New Zealand, Cuba, Vietnam and many more that I probably forget - have been, at some point, just a "breakaway part" of another state/kingdom/empire.
And yet, nobody expects the French to insist on getting back Algeria or to be asked to condone Spain , should that country state the long term military and political objective of restoring its dominion over Morocco.
The only instance in which such a reunion of a "breakaway province" has happened, that I know of, is in Germany... but there was a host of favourable, unique circumstances, first among whom:
- The isolation of the two countries was a relatively short affair, a bit more than thirty years if we start counting from when the Berlin Wall was built and, thus, the people actually separated.
- The division was felt as actively enforced by external forces, in the form not of "invisible conspiracies" but of actual, foreign tanks and troops stationed on the terrain.
- The East Germany government was a spectacularly inept and authoritarian one that had managed to thoroughly sabotage the perception of its own legitimacy, among its country's people, way before a reunion was thought as possible.
So, yes.
Taiwan WAS a Chinese breakaway province.
In 1949 - it was 75 years ago.
History marches on.
台湾的分裂是美国霸权导致的。。
既然美国可以用武力分裂中国。。。俄罗斯为什么不能让 顿巴斯分裂出乌克兰？？？
西方人的无耻
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I think that China should figure out it’s OWN problems before trying to date- I mean claim Taiwan…
the west should figure out its own problefm before trying to sort out chinese domestic issues.
🇹🇼🇨🇳💯😘💪💪💪
China might launch a war and after three weeks realise it's a bad idea and then withdraw. They did that in 1979 when they invaded Vietnam. They later said it had been to punish Vietnam but they got their asses kicked and have rewritten the history of the episode, just like Tiananmen never happened.
vietnam war was to prevent vietnam from occupying cambodia. which china succeeded in doing
Taiwan is much more smaller than Vietnam let alone Ukraine. In fact, Taiwan is about the size of Russian occupied Luhansk, Donetsk, and Zaporizhzhia! Imperial Japan was able to conquer most of Dutch East Indies and Phillipines in merely 3 months.
China at time still embroiled in Cultural Revolution during the Indochina War. Please also look at Korean War in which China is able to counter technologically superior United Nation forces !!
@@aira4739 it's not about size or numbers . It's about quality not quantity.
This is just the US version of the story.
Given that Vietnam had just handed the US their arse a few years back, it would be a cold day in hell before they accept a narrative where the Chinese actually achieved any kind of success against an enemy they themselves failed to defeat.
isn't that kinda how it was with Vietnam war, and others, the Roman empire suffered defeats from smaller powers, it happens
Yeah the thing is as long as chine needs to divert attention away from its failings…
like it's upward collapse of 5.2 percent GDP growth?
@@levelazn Fake figures. The CCP lies a lot. How about the collapse of the corrupt real estate market?
As per Western world, China has been collapsing for the last 40 years.😂😂😂
No, rather than scared off by the Ukraine war, China has been forewarned & strategies amended. If China thinks they are about to lose Taiwan it will invade, though their first choice is for a non military unification. It is true that it may be more difficult than they originally thought.
However that work both ways, the difficulties highlighted by the Ukraine war would reduce support in the West for a war with China over Taiwan. Moreover Europeans don't see the Ukraine & Taiwan in the same way. Whilst the West is supporting Ukraine, you can also see how cautious they approach the war.
Militarily only USA has the resources for such a war but even it will find it hard to sustain a long war, especially if it had to support Ukraine & Israel at the same time. Moreover the logistics favour China & unlike Ukraine, Taiwan can be blockaded.
US nuclear subs will prevent China from taking Taiwan. Also a vastly superior Air Force and Navy, plus cooperation from Japan, Australia, and other allies in the region who do not want to see a PRC hegemony militarily in the region to go with their economic one. Mainland China would be crazy to start a war with the USA and its Indo-Pacific allies (India could very well jump in too, as they have a deep interest in China NOT controlling the sea routes more than they do. The best thing China can do is to continue economic growth and development (if possible), and to make nice with their neighbors, not throw their weight around and try to be the neighborhood bully. That’s aa dangerous neighborhood to try to bully. While the US is polarized in its resolve to back Ukraine (unfortunately), there is no question that both parties would cooperate to send whatever is needed to keep Taiwan from being subsumed. As the video says, technological and economic progress absolutely require that Taiwan remains free.
@@dukeon 1st, Taiwan is legally part of China, even USA don't dispute that, & if you truly believe something is yours you never give up from reclaiming it. Moreover the CCP has general public support for this. So China is highly motivated & has high public support, certainly more motivated than USA & its reluctant allies & with unclear public support. India involvement is undependable.
2nd, China has virtually unlimited ability to blockade Taiwan from the mainland. In fact, it don't even have to fire a single missile, just announced the intention & most if not all civilian air & sea will cease, certainly insurers for freight will stay away. Remember, US systems may be better than China's, but quantity has a quality of its own, given US systems are all ship based, their total capacity is limited. And now we know drones will play a significant role & China can launch these from the mainland.
3rd, it will be very difficult for USA to maintain a large fleet on a war footing far from home ports for months if not years. China don't have this problem.
4th, China's action is against Taiwan, not the US. It will not go after US Naval assets unnecessarily. The US will be the one who has to decide whether to (a) engage China's weapons send against Taiwan & (b) whether it will engage China in the mainland, I doubt it will, it doesn't even dare send NATO troops into Ukraine. I'm guessing it will need Congressional approval for this.
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15:53 ...NO!!
No freakin' WAY!..
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China not making no noise they know
Unfortunately it wasn't mention that main difference between Ukraine and this is whole semiconductor industry dependents on Taiwan
Oh, sorry it was mentioned in the end. Like it is nothing 😅
The new president of Taiwan stated that they basically have a self-destruction plan in place for their semiconductor industry. If China invades all those factories will go into meltdown and the industry would be done.
This industry will be demolished to keep the Chinese from using it to blackmail the world. And the Weill enter a digital black ages.
As someone who deals with import quality. Taiwan has SIGNIFICANTLY better quality in products than China can even dream about.
China can mass produce, but Taiwanese products are superior.
Quality is great but what happen if the stuff runs out of quantity
@@DreamEater-cb2cl 😂🤣😂. That CERTAINLY isn’t working out well for Russia 😂🤣😂. They be running RICKSHAWS pretty soon!!! Probably turtle and blyat rickshaws ! AHHAHAHAHAA!!!
"...the lessons learned from the Ukraine war, are ultimately, what could safe Taiwan from a similar fate."
Nah, bro. It's what safes China from a similar fate, before they end like russia 😅
Slava 🇹🇼 Heroyam TAIWANese 🦾
ya, poor russians, cant drink at starbuck for 2 years, and now have to wait for their evil gov to approve starbuck return, how sad.
Very hard to believe what's go wrong why Russia couldn't control the Air of Ukraine! Still couldn't disconnect Ukraine Ground link from other countries
I bet the 1,200,000,000 chinese people are very scared
4:32 dont underestimate the righteousness of many russian soldiers to put down their arms and surrender to avoid an unjust war. This has helped and is helping ukraine greatly! Not all of Russia's problems stem from incompetence!
China is imitating the Soviet Union..
Ukraine doesnt even have a navy and sank half the black sea fleet.
Taiwan has a big navy,and air force.
Japans is even bigger.
Taiwan would love to reunite with the mainland.
As soon as the CCP admits the failure of collectivist policys ,apologizes and disolves then we can discuss it.
The US defending other countries' democracies 😂
I remember seeing a TNO HOI4 fanfic that talked about this sort of thing in an alternate timeline. It was a pretty interesting read. I wish I could have remembered the title of it.. What needed up happening in the final act was that Taiwan, with assistance from the U.S. and Japan, invaded the mainland of China through the east coast and threatened to drop nuclear bombs on Beijing. Eventually, the fictional president of China was forced to surrender, and Taiwan ended up being given control of Hong Kong, Macau, Nanjing, Manchuria, and also ended up taking the complete island of Fujian as well. I thought it was quite a realistic take inspite of the crazy hypothetical..
" MISSION ... FAILED!!!"$😂
Also a lot of counter drone tech the U.S has which hasn't been giving to Ukraine
Just enough to field test without compromising new classified systems 😮😊
The subtitles of this global geopolitical conundrum are disquieting, to say the least. 😮
I am that Ukrainians remember Joseph Stalin.
I know that few look back fondly at him.
That reminded me of a shitpost.
NATO: You guys are not serious about fighting Russia?
The rest of Eastern Europe and Finland: You don't know them like we do.
The Japanese and the Germans made the same mistake.
China looked at Russia's invasion and took notes of what not to do. Like a serial killer watching CSI.
should look at USA, which has been doing more invasion, bully, and what not for longer years.
The butterfly effect at work
Taiwan does not need to declare independence.
ROC in Taiwan has always been separate and independent from the PRC.
This is why majority Taiwanese support status quo = de facto independence as ROC. International community just need to recognize this fact.
ROC is a exile regime, because its citizens defined by its constitution, who should elect the government are on the mainland China.
ROC which in its own term, claim to be the legitimate government of China, in which taiwan, a province is part of, doesnt recognised PRC exist, vice versa PRC too dont recognised ROC still exist.
theres a reason why both ROC and PRC has a special department to communicate with each other instead of using foreign ministry.
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China invading Taiwan would be the worst economic decision that they would ever make.
True! But the West would be damaged too. There are plenty of videos on here showing how life is pretty much normal in Russia after sanctions, but Western countries have suffered. The thing with China is, it is the largest producer of goods on the planet, whereas the United States are the largest consumers of goods. So the US and China pretty much go hand in hand at this rate.
Taiwan is a much stronger ally - much stronger economic ties. We (America) would send troops to protect Taiwan.
200 dollars per drone - when you can choose between one FLIR drone or 1000 UA drones.... 😁
Taiwan is differe t from China because of its govt stregies. God bless Taiwan
So we do gotta pay rent 😞
getting there.
Nah, the way things are going these past weeks, a Chinese invasion of Taiwan seems distant and unlikely. The one and only potential flashpoint is between China and the Philippines where escalations amplify the likelihood that something is bound to go wrong somewhere. The current economic status of China calls for a resource grab, and that is what it is doing in the EEZs of its Southeast Asian neighbors. Taiwan is way too risky.
Geologically the two countries are extremely different
But there is a similarity, Taiwan and Ukraine both claimed that if war breaks out WWIII will happen
Taiwan never claims so; where did you get this information? It's annoying for some people to always be confused by the information on the internet and then falsely condemn innocent people.
The US needs to switch diplomatic ties from PRC back to ROC or recognize Taiwan as an independent state. Furthermore, ending all aggression from the communists!
This war in Ukraine has a profound effect on deterring China from invading Taiwan as it could not afford the repercussions.
Can we really not just calm the F down and resolve this peacefully? Jeez.......
But No matter what is happening now in Ukraine. One Has to Ask, why didn't the West do More in 2014 to stop Russia invading Crimea ?
It’s a question we’ll wonder about for decades to come. The easy answer is appeasement, while the tough answer could be described as a cat’s cradle of politics, special interests, incompetence and wanton disregard.
@@Andrew-mp9hu But. Who knows What Repercussions may Arise because of it? Hmmmmm. Another Nazi type Attack?
That makes no sense. What happened in 2014 is irrelevant now. It's pointless now to wonder why something didn't happen earlier. What is your point?
@@madmaxfzz I think it’s pretty relevant now, despite it being a 10-yr old event.
I’m looking at a sequential flow of events, decisions, and some general game theory application.
What part is not making sense to you? And to level set, I’m happy to have a discussion where we disagree but I’m not going to get into a nasty argument.
The answer is obvious and it is the same as "why in the past two years the West didn't provide all that was promised" Do you know the answer?
Taiwan played a good game, getting the USA invested with their microchip business, now they are too important, and china needs to prepare to be without those chips before they can launch an invasion, taiwan has already stated that the fabs can be destoryed long before the PRC will have any hopes of seizing them. in my opinion one of the best things taiwan did that is not strategically important was to secure artifacts and classical artworks, had taiwan not taken them mao would have saw them destroyed by his army of indoctrinated children. History and culture are important and so much was lost, but so much more would have been lost if not for taiwan taking it and protecting it.
Haha only ones shattin their pants is the west
The possibility of china attacking Taiwan must be carefully watched. Even if it is improbable; it is so frightening rhat complacency is dispicable.
One important aspect that was not discussed here was the fact that Ukraine and Russia share the same border on land. If China was to invade, getting soldiers across a 100 mile ocean is an ominous undertaking. The boats that would carry these soldiers would be sitting ducks for the hardware that the US is currently supplying to Taiwan. The logistics of an invasion would be difficult to say the least.
Shoutouts to the people of the sovereign nation of Taiwan
Note the fact that US never grant TW statehood nor independence. Taiwan is the only pitiful political entity in first island chain that has no US military base, the cost of which TW will be happily to pay.
China would have to adopt the Russian scorched earth theory to take Taiwan and i dont think China is willing to take it that way