Female Antisocial Personality Disorder Psychiatric Interview No. 1 Evaluation
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Young woman displays antisocial and impulsive behavior. History includes promiscuity, illegitimate pregnancies, lesbianism, multiple marriage, drug addiction, theft, and bad-check passing. In addition during withdrawal from drugs, she has had epidoses of psychosis. Also see Interview No. 9
She seems more competent than the general population these days.
She wasn't delusional or anti social. She was gay. They forced her to wear a dress, grow out her hair and remarry.
Which is alarming and troublesome for us.
@@unclesham5507
Public education is the reason our grandparents could read and write.
@@Thorny_Misanthrope that is patently end expressly FALSE actually. Edify yourself.
I’ll say.
The mother saying “you’re exactly like your father”. Cannot underestimate the damage that causes to how a growing person develops
Yep. The entire thing screams maternal abuse.
My mother said that to me all the time but I take it as a compliment
@@HAYAOLEONE but yes, its definitely abuse. My mother was very abusive
@@shaskins15 I'm happy for you.
Be well.
@The mysterious Miss X you're very angry. Have you ever tried counseling, therapy?
“Fine when she’s not home” says a great deal. I know as an abused child, life was good until I saw my father’s car in the driveway.
So true. Same here.
Exactly what I experienced. My father brought great negativity into the house once he came home from work
Lucky me, I guess. I would always hear my dad's piece of shit car from a block away 😅
We dreaded 3:50 pm. That’s when we heard his car in the driveway. He came home in a rampage against us.
Boy I understand the latter of your comment.
Coming home with his car not there was like winning the lottery. I didn't hate him just didn't want to deal with him.
This is not a narcissist. This is the survivor of a narcissist. I like how quiet they both are. No raised voices.
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I THOUGHT THAT TOO. HER HUSBAND IS THE NARC AND FLIPPED IT ALL ON HER.
HER FAMILY WERE ALL VASTARD NARCS!!!
a narcissist doesn’t always raise their voice. Not an indication that they are not narcissists.
Aspd is not Narcissism
I get the feeling that she was a lesbian and afraid to talk to anyone about it - and back then that was considered a disorder that needed treatment compared to what we now know. What a crying shame. She was not a sick person, she was just a frightened person.
She was not afraid to express who she was. Just because she is masculine does not make her gay.
@Mamaboo cee she certainly has an unusual appearance for the era. If gay, she'd keep it secret as it was a societal taboo.
Interesting video. Interesting woman.
@@mooreandless right? I agree.
@@glendathegoodwitch6987 true, true. I did post that was haw I felt, because that then, even admitting being gay to one's self was socially surpressed. I am a bit like her. I identify female, born female but I am a bit masculine. I just felt that the way she was back then was not "socially acceptable" - which was just awful - no matter how you identify. She was her own individual self In a stupid "cookie cutter" world and gay or not it was hard to be so individual. Maybe today she would have had an easier time identifying, gay or not.
And she was definitely a strong person to hold together under the enormous pressure of her illness as well as her beautiful (yet different for the time) individuality.
My thoughts exactly. Voice, body language, hairstyle and clothing......
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Wow. Thank you for sharing.
@@amym4208
Well done and I hope you have had a successful life so far
I wish you the best.
Thank you for telling your story
Her mother has made a good job of convincing everyone that this poor woman was the mad one,thats how evil and calculating the real psychos are.
Amber Heard Alert.
Actually, the clinicians carry full responsibility for their false conclusions. They're supposed to breach the nonsense, but even today completely fail to.
@@gessie Wow, that's a very enlightening way to look at it, I like your take on the issue.
Her mother sounds like a ripe old narcissist. Narcissists always end up leaving those around them needing the psychological help.
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If she were diagnosed today they would say she's suffering from PTSD not ASPD. Everything she says and does is a trauma response. I'm in awe of how well she is holding up considering what she must have been through.
No she would be diagnosed as bipolar.... They would take the fact that she's impulsive, the fact that she doesn't remember emotional events or anything tied to a strong emotion, they would also look at the fact that she is antisocial, they would look at the fact that she prefers others to control her life; which is what she meant by "I feel better when I'm locked up" that's because she doesn't have to make any decisions or be responsible because somebody else is doing it for her. I would say that speaks to the probability that she has a narcissistic mother(person she tends to have issues with) that isolated her from others and controlled every single thing about her life and then when she became of age, she lost her damn mind in a sense and started acting impulsively because she was free and wanted to experience shit, and with a childhood the way she had it there was no way she could make smart choices out of impulsive ones. Instead of actually trying to come up with a treatment plan that might actually help her and reintegrate her into society, they would just going to treat her with a bunch of medications and turn what could possibly be something curable into a lifelong condition. Just like they did in that time. The field (psychology) itself concretes it into a mental illness, instead of a treatable condition.
Antisocial personality disorder comes with intentional harm to others today...so you are right she wouldn't be diagnosed with antisocial personality.
those aren't mutually exclusive
She's incredibly intelligent and highly resilient and I can't fathom what she must have gone through.
WTF makes you qualified to say that? Honestly, you're just projecting your own attitudes and, dare I say, fantasies, upon the subject of this interview.
We've come a long way and we have so far to go. This poor girl carries so much shame and is convinced she's crazy, when in fact she seems repressed an d misunderstood. Something went horribly wrong in her childhood.
Wait, let's not forget there was criminal behavior. She stole a car.
You read this wrong lol. She knows better but she doesn't care.
She said her childhood was nice.
Not too mention all of the postpartum she has suffered. 😁
I wonder if she suffered physical abuse as well as sexual abuse.
There is no way that this person is anti social or even narcissistic. She took full accountability for her pregnancies. She checked herself into the hospital and asked for treatments in hopes they would help. Prefers being “locked up” to being at home. It’s such a contrast to what we know about APD now.
She took accountability for her pregnancies? Those times she magically got herself pregnant.. ..all by herself, of course.. ..no one else involved of course! 🤔🙄🤦🏼♀️🤷🏼♀️
@@karenturner8739oh, Karen.
@karenturner8739 that’s not what they meant by accountability.🙄
Remember that this was the era where women getting divorced was considered a travesty, and women were looked down on because of it. That it was somehow their fault. This lady would probably fit right in with todays society.
She is ashamed, this is how most women should feel when she is a degenerate. Too bad our society teaches them otherwise today.
She’s 21, and she said she’s carried 6 pregnancies to term. So at best she was 15 with her first pregnancy, probably younger. I hope she found some peace in life and her babies found safe homes.
2 were stillborn and one died shortly after birth.
Several died.
And the mother is currently caring for I think two of them so that means they're being molested just like this lady was
She said her two kids she has now are w the grandma, then she had two still born, one died shortly after birth, one was adopted out, then the twins were adopted out...that makes seven pregnancies
@@sunnymcalister2366 When did she say she was molesed?? You're sick!
@@mannybravo237 70's.
It’s the nurturing she needs that makes her feel safer pregnant and locked up. This is signs of childhood abuse. Bless her soul.
This guy asks incredible questions and he’s calm, but firm. He doesn’t really let her evade on answers, but isn’t aggressive about it at all, it’s pretty brilliant! Therapist today need to take notes on this guy!
It's wonderful to read doctoral level psychology books printed before the 1950s. Sadly, today the general population doesn't understand what the general population understood about much psychoanalytic theory in the 1950s.
The only downside with it being attempted in this day and age, is the firmness and genuine inquisition on one’s thought processes, and the therapist’s genuine determination for the patient’s well being.
I think he’s the same guy that did patient 18 s interview
"@corycherrier4743" This was so long ago.
I am a therapist and was trained to do an interview almost exactly like that. I knew what question should be asked as he was asking them. He did a great job, very fluid. This is only a very short portion of an interview. He didn't cover the sexual history, any interests or resilience, and specific symptoms when not under the influence of substances, but this didn't appear to be the whole interview. Very interesting.
Her honesty is refreshing in a world of lies.
Honesty. She has no feelings. Thinks only of herself. And lies. No woman forgets their stillborn children.
You really think she's telling the truth?
I so wish he would have asked her, what do you think what's wrong with the common person, the way people look at life. What kind of world would be perfect if people were ? What kind of world would you like to live in. Do you feel something needs to change to be complete, or do people just don't understand your way of thinking? I feel attracted to you, how do you feel about that. How do you feel about me, do you feel anything. I sure feel a lot of things about you, does it matter any at all. Thank you so much for sharing.
@@jefferydowler4655 Have you seen the second part Jeffery? Maybe some of your questions are covered in that part. I haven't had time to watch it yet.
@@robynandrews4384 Yes, I've been watching it. She sure has lived a pretty wild life, but us old timers just call it going down fool's hill. When this part was filmed she had married and had two boys, big house on 180 acres, 11 miles outside of town. She said it was peaceful, and her husband knows about mental illness because of his mother. He works hard and makes good money and her life has changed, and she is much happier now, and he understands her up's and downtime and takes care of her, and she likes that, to be taken care of. Good for her, she finds her self making better choices now… Nice.
Heartbreaking video. The vulnerability and hurt of a wounded child is evident in her every word. God bless her wherever she is.
She has a very detailed memory except when it’s about her emotions. It makes me believe she has sustained a lot of emotional trauma. I am pretty sure her mother is a narcissist, and she scapegoated her because she was “just like her father” also it’s a really abusive thing to say to your child. Being in the hospital made her feel safe.
Spot on. I agree
Yes. Exactly.
I'm not sure, it might be a comfort thing. She might have been anti social with family because they abused her in some way. Then she could be feeling more comfortable/social around people she feels are souly their to help. I'm not a psychologist but I do understand how abuse changes someone. Just the feeling that you're in a safe place is enough to make you feel like you can finally breathe. 🥺
Exactly
Well losing babies - obviously traumatic. And did males exhibiting this behaviour get committed as well?
Such an easy androgyny...Masculine gestures and appearance, but a gentleness and and a woundedness. Her mother stomped her soul. A wonder and a blessing that she's as rational as she is.
Well said
@@PabloDiablo682 Thank you, Paul.
I noticed that too, I thought that maybe she's gay, but I think it has more to do with trying to appear masculine to protect herself. A man was interviewing her, and she spoke with him in a manner like they were 2 men talking, she sat like a man, held her head like a man, showed very masculine facial gestures.
She is an actor displaying symptoms for the school of psychology. Read the screen at the beginning.
@@SydMountaineer
This is a sexist assessment. Assigning a sex to those gestures and behaviors is wrong and sexist.
I applaud this woman for seeking out treatment. Especially in 1959!
I don't think for one minute this lady has a personality disorder. I see a very troubled young lady who has had a lifetime of emotional abuse. She is probably struggling with depression, ptsd and very low self esteem.
How do you know its 1959 ??
@@lenb7275 I believe the year is mentioned in the interview somewhere or on the video beforehand.
@@darcygilbert1353 she said she was 15 in ' 51 age 21 she said she was so that would be 1957 , so she was born in 1936 !
@@lenb7275 She said she was 15 in 1951, so if she was born in 1936 and she's 21 at the time of the interview, I get 1957.
She said she feels better when she's locked up. I once told someone the only time I felt truly happy was when I was in an insane asylum. It's because by in large the outside world is a madhouse! To get away from it from a while is to find peace ❤️
It struck me when she said she liked being pregnant and in the hospital. The pregnancy hormone could have contributed to her feeling ok and being in control of some aspect of her life, the medication given in the hospital may have balanced out ‘hormonal’ symptoms too, just a thought. God love this woman I hope she found peace
Probably just suffers from PMS and has a raging asshole of a mother.
Or, there is a deep peace that she finds from confinement/restriction.
Interestingly enough, my wife was generally in a better mood during pregnancy....... at least during the first half. She's generally nice, but I think the hormone balance helped make her even nicer.
Maybe it was just a reprieve from her dysfunctional family.
Or she likes being in situations where she is controlled and taken care of & safe
I think, when she said that her mom began telling her that she was crazy when she was just a little kid says all we need to know about what happened to this sad lady. Everything she did or became was natures reaction to the insane abuse that started when she was an innocent toddler.
This woman is very articulate and probably highly intelligent, but highly abused.
Yes, most likely sexually abused as a child.
Just because she's mentally ill makes her more susceptible to abuse.
And highly abusive. She's a criminal.
Not all bad women are "abused". How about allowing females to have some agency and responsibility of their own, and acknowledging that some women are either metally ill, have a personality disorder, or are just plain "bad", without having been abused.
@@toddforhetz Exactly, humans can be bad and 50% of humans are female. Hasn't feminism's brainwashing achieved its aim!
I've watched both interviews. This woman is obviously of above average intelligence and more self aware and introspective than the average person. I wonder how her life eventually turned out.
I just saw there’s a follow up video. Haven’t watched it yet, but by the picture she’s smiling and looks better.
How is she above high intelligence. She answers simple questions
@@deniseblu297 If you have to ask, you wouldn't get it.
@@meiphukingdiqqsays the individual without an answer
@@ahuramazda32 The intelligence is self evident to others of intelligence. If you can't see it, then that's on you.
About broke my heart when she called her dad "irresponsible but not bad". She deserved the same understanding and compassion
I’m impressed that she is so articulate especially having been shocked a day before the interview.
We should be shocked at our own educational and social decline.
articulate!? I wonder what baseline you are using. This subject fails to articulate basic feelings towards her parents, children, or personal circumstances. The interviewer literally has to drag answers out of her.
@@sp10sn
How would you feel if you were being interviewed at 21 while you were locked up in a psychiatric ward.
All of us might be a little on guard.
@@mikeoveli1028 Her Mother should probably been the one being there for shock treatments.
@@vikingdogmanship
And daddy.
She doesn’t seem to have anti social personality disorder. I’m not a therapist; yet to me instinctively she seems to have complex PTSD. ❤
No, she's a sociopath you can tell by the stare. They're really good at playing the victim.
She's had multiple ECT,'s the last one a few days previously. Plus, she's probably on some pretty heavy meds. And let's not forget, the DSM-I for this era would categorize her lesbianism as a “sociopathic personality disturbance” that could be cured. I can't imagine the stigma and shame she endured.
Sociopathy is a response to childhood trauma so there is an underlying CPTSD
Well if you're not a therapist and how do you know?
She has trouble describing her feelings. ITs why the therapist keeps asking how she feels. Antisocial personality disorder and cluster b personalities are not in touch with their feelings they are not able to describe them or empathise with others. She can articulate feelings of sorry or disappointment but only when it relates to herself and not others. She is pretty flat lined in her responses and remains factual. she doesnt emote at all except for the odd smirk. You could interpret those as dupers delight.
She admires her father and it was interesting how the psychiatrist picked on this and didnt let it go. If she had admitted her father was bad, then she would have to admit she was too. But she couldnt do that as she likes being just like him.
I have CPTSD and disassociative disorder, trust me it doesnt look like this
I wonder if “promiscuity” and “illegitimate children” were also considered pathological for men during this time... 🙄
Lol 😂 in ANY time ☕
Girls were absolutely admitted to our local psych unit for pregnancy or premarital sex. When the hospital closed, they were too institutionalized to be released. Tragic.
men take no responsibility for causing pregnancy and they aren't expected to do anything about it. that's why there are aloof of single moms
Well, its still not smart, mature or a successfull way of living whatsoever
thank you
Poor young woman. Her family telling her she's crazy. You can hear something so many times that you start to believe it; especially at a young age. Alcoholic absent father growing up and mother telling her she's just like him. Very damaging. She's been looking for love and acceptance from the wrong people. Words are powerful! You can build someone up or fear someone down. We need to be kinder to others. We do now the battles they deal with. 💜
Right. And many times back then women were labeled 'crazy' if they didn't follow the strict rules of being a perfect wife, listening and following husbands rules, cooking, cleaning, caring for children and following all the rules without complaining. Otherwise shes a problem
Wow, I have personally met individuals with antisocial personality disorder, and I am just not connecting, and/or believing the label she was given! “Crazy; “antisocial personality disorder?” ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT!!!!👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻
@@jennifers.3818 You watch too many movies. Ridiculous.
@@jennifers.3818 100 % agree
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This woman has experienced a great deal of truama and emotional neglect. Then, when she finally had a breakdown, the same people who caused this trauma have her committed and call her crazy...its clear she has completely disassociated from her own emotions as a self protection measure.
@Michael Scofield might be, the current research supports the idea that narcissist personalities develop from trauma and neglect in childhood, the title of the movie suggests that she is diagnosed with bpd, which holds many of the same traits as narcissistic personality disorder and from listening to her speak about her mothers behavior it is possible that she is narsasistic as an adult because she was raised by a mother with those tendencies and a father who was rarely present. I dont doubt that this woman has some kind of npd, but i don't know if she would have wound up in the hospital with a more stable nurturing upbringing
She has bipolar and a personality disorder or she doesn’t. There’s no “ breakdown “ .
@@josephososkie3029 please do some research, you look silly
@@allisonharranmua8193 when do you use “;breakdown” as a clinical term?
Exactly!!
I think they used to view "promiscuity, illegitimate pregnancies, lesbianism, multiple marriage, drug addiction, theft, and bad-check passing" as confirming antisocial personality disorder. It can also indicate BPD, but now there are some researchers that feel that the BPD diagnosis is itself masking trauma or PTSD. All of these are best-available labels for complex situations of human lives, which are themselves complex and fragile.
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Why are you going round commenting on this on a bunch of people's comments?
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Your comment is spot on!
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Her deep, deep sadness prevades her personality... i wish her the best
Poor little thing, she is really beautiful and I'm guessing No one has never told her anything nice about herself... you can tell she has been terribly abused. My heart cries for her...
By today’s standards, she seems more together than most young adults her age are now. She’s a little shy, well spoken and a bit wounded by her mother’s harshness. I hope she went on to live a happy life with her beloved boys.
What makes you think she has it together? Is it the 2.5 months in hospital or the six pregnancies or the two failed marriages at age 21?
Maybe she was doing it all as she was trying to escape from her Mother. She was trying to find her own life but unsure how to do it.
@@CindyTownsend-t1zShe says her mother is a very nice person and her mother looked after her children when she took off to live on Venice Beach and do drugs, steal cars and shoot people.
@@CindyTownsend-t1z. Promiscuity at a young age is usually a result of some sort of S.A
Not a chance. Back then she would have been tormented forever for being gay.
She is extremely brave to do this. To come forward and lay all that out like that. Completely bare. For all to see. So inspiring!
@Hello there, how are you doing this blessed day?
I really appreciate the kindness and serenity the man is giving off. I've had my own time at a psych ward. This kind of person really helps the process. I had an attempt in 2019. The ladies at that facility were so incredibly warm and comforting and helpful. I will never forget them.
My heart breaks that she was only 21 and had been through so many things! So empty, so lost... :(
you should watch the Interview No.9, she turned out fine. She is strong.
You should see the follow up
She is a sociopath and has neglect about 6-7 of her kids, stolen vehicles and been in trouble with the police. She has a smug grin on her face and is only talking now because she has no choice. She can't change her spots even though she may learn to show respect for people in her future.
@@phandinhthanh2295 That is impossible -- There is no cure but she has improved significantly.
@@MICKEYISLOWD she really could be used as an argument for sterilization. I wonder if since she would feel "better" while pregnant what kind of affect the pill would have on her.
OMG, this poor woman! She's 21 and has had 2 stillborn birth, 1 after birth death, 1 adopted child, twin adopted children and the two that are with her. And has been married twice. She is a victim of her circumstances. She was pushed by society to marry and have children, because that's what females did. She probably has suffered from sexual and/or physical abuse. Maybe she's a lesbian. Regardless, she's been through an awful lot at such a young age. And yet, she's very articulate and clearly intelligent. Nothing wrong with this woman except the decade she was born.
Yep. Women were expected to marry back then. If you were 25 and not married, you were considered very weird and an "old maid."
I think your right also I commented saying I agreed with others saying she isn’t anti social or displaying the traits but none of us or me at least is a psychologist but I think you definitely on the right track
@@Wowzersdude-k5c that’s so different then today
I was thinking she might’ve been a lesbian as well.
Or maybe she’s full of shit too
She’s been affected by trauma. I am curious as to why she was pregnant so many times as a teen and why she married twice so young. Just losing all those children to stillbirth, and forced adoption would be traumatizing. 10-15 shock treatments that she asked for? Could be self harm common in CPTSD. You can definitely tell that her paradigm and the paradigm at the time was the person is the problem and not the problem is the problem.
Many questions unanswered! She is like a lost child!
I’m guessing her brothers had something to do with her pregnancies.
@@katieandnick4113 that's a large assumption to make, no? she even says 'i knew what i was doing- i know where babies come from'
Escaping her mother. Obviously.
Having kids marked the *the clear* passage into independent adulthood. Therefore justifying leaving the family house 'no questions asked' from relatives/locals.
Hi there , possibly she married as she had had to copulate with whomever she was told to; in order to hide some culprit .. Marry in the same order,,.. do as I say. Women were powerless.
I don't know what's happened to Psychiatrists these days but this guy is way better than what we have today
Seriously he’s so professional these doctors lie straight to your face these days at least back then they tried to help you
this is less about her being anti-social, and more about society being anti-her, i think. imagine how many people were institutionalized for just being themselves or reacting against the injustices of the world around them. i'm glad we've progressed somewhat.
Actually not really. We're worse than before. Anyone who dares speak their opinion that does not 100% align with some official narrative or what the tribalistic masses deem acceptable, witch hunts are sent after them. Doxing, bullying, death threats, harassment, shaming, attempting to threaten livelihoods or worse...
The more things change the more they stay the same.
This is a great way to put it
What about the drug abuse, marriages, theft, etc etc etc?
That’s a laundry list of bad behaviors, not “society simply not accepting her”…
Like, if a child becomes violent, they go in time-out. Basic stuff…
Absolutely!
There hasn't been any progress at all
She lost 3 babies and gave up 3.I believe she is grieving the separation from her children. That's difficult to go through and isn't something you "get over" My heart goes out to her.
She miscounted, she has 8 and all by the age of 21!! Losing 1 baby is bad enough, but to lose 3!! Only then to have 3 more adopted out. Poor thing, that'd push me right over the edge
She's 21 and all those pregnancies ?
@@1234-m7w Yes, 8 pregnancies? 2 were stillborn, 1 passed after birth, gave a single and a set of twins for adoption and was living with 2 who are 3 and 4. If true, she's been through hard times that would exacerbate her mental illness. I wonder what happened to the 2 she kept and to her 💔🙏🏼🛐
yes. My mum lost three before me. Then lost another one when I was 7. Gave birth to my sister when I was 8.
This is definitely enough to destroy someone. It’s painful and sad. Nothing is in color. Everything feels dead.
This girl today would be 85 years old. I wonder if she is still alive and how her life was. She's very intelligent and insightful. If she had been given a chance and the support, she could have made something of herself.
I can't find it. Can you send me the link?
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Her life was terrible. You never fully overcome that kind of trauma. It stays with you until you die.
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She is a very bright, direct person. I sense tremendous pain and sadness. Incredibly brave. Given the period when this was recorded, I wonder if she is really psychotic rather than extremely depressed and lonely. Quite a series of experiences for a 21-year-old. Two marriages and more kids than she can accurately recall having.
She must have had a horrible, soul-killing childhood. So hard to overcome.
How would you know this information
@@johnnysunrocket8618 Listen to what she says about her mother. Some people recognize the destructive family dynamic and some people don't. (That's you.)No child gets messed up in this way on their own.
@@trex3003 I disagree. There could be any number of explanations for her nearly catatonic relationship with life. She's attentive, thoughtful, patient, and well spoken. Not the sort of thing that usually comes from early trauma.
She admits that she's had a history with mental facilities and their 50's style medical treatment, and she's navigating her way around the questions...
@@seanmolloy9297 If you look up the comments someone copied in that she had sexual relations with family members, Grandfather and Uncle and hint at more, it is not hard for me to understand exactly what's gone on here with this poor woman! I know someone who was severely and horrifying sexually abused as a child and you would never ever know meeting her, she is reflective, aware and manages her life amazingly well!
@@seanmolloy9297 Furthermore, early childhood trauma becomes embedded and normal life to the person with the trauma, additionally many sexually abused and traumatized people either repress, disassociate or normalize their abuse. This is why it is of epidemic proportions in our society because the awareness of it and it's effects is very poorly understood. I wouldn't be surprised at all the read somewhere that her mother was the enabler and may even have known about the abuse and in order to cover up the family shame made her the scapegoat! I read about this stuff everyday and also have my own live experience of the toxic family and the flying monkeys!
It seems to me severe emotional neglect by her (narcissistic) mother. Just looking at her side of the story though. Lack of love and guidance from either parent. Mother telling her she was bad since she was really young. She seems to want to fix herself which doesn't seem antisocial to me. The part that struck me the most is she feels safer in the hospital than she does at home with her mother. I would say she is emotionally broken. Her mother never bonded with her.
You'd be surprised how many people with ASPD (antisocial personality disorder) as well as NPD (narcissistic personality disorder) are out there who do want to "fix" themselves. Self awareness comes in layers.
Loving or not, I can imagine one of this woman's kids sitting there 20 years later, complaining about her. Being the status of "child" does not mean you cannot also be gaslighting, misinterpreting, tormenting, or lacking in empathy. I never draw conclusions until I hear from more sides. I say this because of a sudden feeling of compassion and love for my own parents as I thought about their lives in a more whole way.
@@Stardustpal25 Thankyou.
The gentleman directing the questions is gentle, but firm in his inquiries. He does not tolerate any attempts at evasion, yet he also allows her responses to guide his evaluations. He isn’t judgmental, but rather - he is judicious in how he prioritises the data that she volunteers. I feel that he preserved the dignity of the subject, and I believe she expressed her position eloquently via the latitude that the task permitted. A very educational video, and one that inspired me to subscribe. Thank you very much.
The guy is amazing at questioning. I would loved to be his patient. I bet he helped a lot of people in his time practicing.
And yet to me it feels awfully condescending. 🤷♀️ “I don’t know” gets “I think you do”, yet “I don’t know” is often code for “stop asking me such personal questions.” She doesn’t seem to want to be here. This poor woman, suffering from patriarchy and probably parental abuse. 😔
He seems kind without condescension a professonal dedicated to assisting people recover.
Remember psychiatry was expanding according to the times & lack of medical technology.
The collapse of a stable science based mental Healthcare ststem has caused untold suffering.
Allowing drug addicts, chronic alcoholics & untreated mentally persons to live on the streets in large encampments lacking first world sanitation is appalling.
Fentanyl addiction is alarming yet most large metropolitan regions in America offer no treatment rather its criminalized. The naivete of good intentions has become deadly however spewing out the current fadish word salad & plastic virtue signaling looks great online but fails horribly when applied to real life situations.
Mental Healthcare will only improve when scientific peer reviewed studies & medical research become the standard again. The Multi personality disord hysteria of the 1970s has been forgotten. When greedy & fame seeking Psychiatrists & Psychologicals falsified patients disorders for greater book sales & eventually movie scripts. A shocking lack of medical professionalism lead to quackery & fantasy patients endowed with more & more personalities. Mine had 16 personalities, well now mine had 36 personalities..ect..ect.
Hopefully medical science will return to mental Healthcare soon & drop psuedo-medical science.
This is my grandmother. She turns 86 this year.
How is she doing?
I'm a man, and when I watch her talk I see myself in her. I was born into a family that hated me. I also hated and still hate my family to this day and made bad decisions, but not to the extent that she did. When I look at her, I myself if I had done half the things I wanted to without worrying about consequences.
I hope you’re doing better and found your true family 💜 it’s a shame how cruel and selfish parents can be.
I wish the best for you in everything :]
Thanks for sharing. I hope you are doing well in life and have a happy home now :)
RSN; Since May of 2021, I have been watching minister Joyce Meyer. She has helped me a lot with what you talk about. In my area, she is on t.v. every night at 10pm. I watch her every night, Monday through Friday, and take notes. She has helped me a ton and I can relate to her also. My recommendations.
Well if your mother was Anti Social you would normalize her abandonment at a young age. You might have never loved someone no matter what and vice versa. Secure attachments to people even just 1 or 2 is a good sign, but if you find yourself being antagonistic about peoples devotion to you. That can also be a sign of Anti Social traits
How did your family hate you?
Plenty of sexual abuse occurred way back when and when the kids acted out as a result, or god forbid, tell someone in the family, a lot of the time they were locked up. This could explain the pregnancies and possibly much more.
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Here we go..
@@HAYAOLEONE què? where are we going?
@@VladaldTrumptin your safe space / your cave
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I am so glad that Psychiatry has come a long way since this poor lady was in the system. This lady just seems like someone who has been beaten down by everyone in her life and the system to the point of just accepting she is a problem and allowing stuff to happen to her now. For her to say that she wanted to go to the hospital because it was better for her, what was her home situation like then? To blame someone who has gone through or is going through trauma doesn't help them. Of course she is going to do drugs etc. I hope this beautiful lady eventually got the help she desperately needed.
Yea, its more like an interrogation
You are the type of people they target-an empath. I used to think this way. Omg I am so glad I survived my experience.
There is a follow up interview linked in the comments . I am going to go watch it now.
@@sl5311 No. I don't think so. YOu have to remember this was the 60s and to be a Lesbian in those days was totally taboo. She probably had something like Bi-Polar etc as well which would explain her ups and downs and why she so many miscarriages and children etc and the drug taking etc and the impulsivity. The strict religious times as well would have been against her. Having her hair short in those days would have also been a big no no. Ehh. Just something I gleaned from the interview.
@@werebilbyj4449 I was alive in the 60's. I get it believe me.
I love this interviewer. He's so patient and asks great questions.
I find her fascinating. Her way of speaking, her appearance, her answers. Really interesting human. I hope she found peace.
I'm antisocial I have two friends that don't push me into things that make me up set, but when you have been hurt most of your life being antisocial is normal to us.
I can agree
asocial behavior is normal to you. antisocial behavior is not normal.
Having one or two friends is entirely normal, actually. Contrary to what our culture dictates (assuming you're North American) it is NOT normal for people to have many dozens upon dozens of "very close friends." That's just pure bullshit. 1 or 2 is more realistic, and everyone else is an acquaintance.
People who never challenge you are not friends, but validators of your disorder.
You're using "anti-social" in laymen's terms. This is referring to Antisocial Personality Disorder, which is not not wanting to be social and involved in social activities...lol.
For being mentally ill she is composed and far more articulate than a lot of 21 year olds today. The doctor asked excellent questions to get her speaking and thoughtful follow up probes. Much better than journalists today with politicians.
Personality disorders are not the same as mental health issues. They are learned behaviors. Jut like politicians.
When this was filmed, media didn't have to worry about getting clicks.
@@x73. Personality disorders are mental health issues by definition. In most cases they are a response to a childhood trauma but there's a genetic component to it as well.
@@x73. They literally are mental health issues.
That‘s because not answering properly when a person in authority asks a question would not have been acceptable.
The immense sadness coming from her is so evident to me. She seems raw and straight forward not like a sociopath
true.... and then look at thje interview number 9, she is "cured" and turned into a caricature of a would-be steford wife... they cured her of being herself and had her CON-form, and CON-trol her impulses... oh they cured the gay away the barstewards!
If she's sad,I'm the daddy
She was Sixteen when she was married?! That was back when you were expected to be married before having sex.
She doesn’t strike me as having Anti-social PD whatsoever.🤷🏻♀️ They used to lock women up in institutions for simply not conforming to society’s expectations of a woman. Her body-language & dress was more masculine-presenting, for that time especially.
Wonder what her childhood & family were like? They used to always focus on the child who was scapegoated w/out ever evaluating the family or origin.
One of the hallmarks of psychopathy/sociopathy is their acting skills. They read the room and audience, and adjust the act accordingly. You simply cannot rely upon the honesty of someone with a sociopathic or psychopathic personality.
This woman would NEVER be diagnosed today as being antisocial. Shows a lot of signs of crap upbringing.
True but being a piece of crap person is acceptable today and out society has gone to hell.
uh antisocial doesnt mean shes a bad person or anything. its just the inabbility to maintain relationships that she spends the whole video talking about. being diagnosed is also not a bad thing. and yea, crap upbringing often leads to personality disorders. whodathunk
She just said she didnt feel close to her husband nor did she have any feelings toward him. Youre an idiot. Anti social doesnt mean shes evil or something. It just means she has emotionall detachment issues and trouble feeling things.
Right🤝🏽
100 % agree .
Put all the pregnancies and her age of just 21 together and a marriage at 16, etc... feeling better locked up than out in the wild... this is person sounds like a victim of real abuse and coercion from others. A sad start in life I hope things Improved for them in time.
She has to be lying about all the pregnancies, among other things.
@@oliviatree Why? Two babies and 4 miscarriages seems quite possible.
If you are a parent, I bet you're a good one. Nice to see that people can care about another human being. Sadly that's becoming rare these days and everyone is just selfish and angry.
She’s not trans
Loving the empathy....
Some people have no memory of sexual abuse at the hands of caretakers, or possibly sexual abuse occurred to the mother, grandmother, great grandmother and got passed down the family line as traumatic behavior...... my heart goes out to all women struggling with trauma of sexual nature. Can make people feel unlovable. The young lady did a follow up interview.
Worth watching. Her smile is beautiful.
Oh my!! 21 and so much pain.
@@michelletodd4893
I just found it too. How sad.
I think a lot of her trauma was caused by her mother. One of the few times she smiled was when asked about her father. Ease up on the "man bad" narrative. That's what is screwing up most of the kids now.
I picked up on that right off the bat,it seems she has distanced herself in personality and appearance from feminate identity because of catastrophic events such as sexual abuse ,verbal or physical.I hope she was able to work through her problems but kinda hard when you don't have family support....
@@josephbryant6758 Thank you for your insightful & very empathetic response to this video.♥️✌️🐉🌎
the man asked her why she feels better when she's "locked up".....I'd imagine it's because she feels SAFE
The psychiatrist suffered from an incredible lack of curiosity on the subject of how she, at age 21, has had 7 pregnancies. It's so glaring. She most likely suffered from sexual abuse from an early age as well as severe emotional abuse and other trauma. Yet he doesn't explore this...and these have clearly impacted on her history and present. Unbelievable.
She had all of those kids before she was 18 even since the youngest was 3. That doc is worthless.
If it's an evaluation it's not the time to probe deeply into anything in particular. You're mostly working on trust and getting an idea of their backstory. You never know how much someone has fully internalised that they were actually abused and it can be hugely destabilising to confront it and experiencing that fallout without feeling pretty secure in the therapeutic relationship first might actually damage it.
Back in the old days, people got married young The singer Jerry Lee Lewis married his cousin and she was 12. Especially down south. Married off before they had a chance to grow up.
Probably waited to get into the abuse so she would become comfortable talking to him
It was not considered okay in mainstream society for Jerry lee Lewis to marry his little cousin. I think she was 13, not 12. But money won out
She was very clearly abused from early childhood. I recognize the signs. Severe hatred from her mother translated to her siblings and she was convinced their view of her is the correct one. It became a self-fulfilling prophesy. Poor sweetheart!
@Michael Scofield I recognize the key things she is saying. She was not loved by her mother, that is very clear. If you had lived through that kind of abuse you, yourself, would recognize it instantly.
This lady has been victimized for a long period, makes me sick to watch and hear the recriminations of the past. I hope she is comfortable and able to live peacefully now.
I couldn't agree more. I'm guessing if she is still around she would be in her ninety's.
George McKenna she should be around 84
Isn't it interesting how personality disorders get women abused. Men on the other hand are abusive.
@@cevanille1104 SO ARE WOMEN who are abusive like my bitch of a ‘ unfit mother ‘ systematically abused physically mentally emotionally by her
I doubt that she's alive,poor thing.
How sad, she is being treated like a freak but she is not a freak. Shes broken. Broken.
She’s being asked questions. Not abused.
50 years later her personality disorder fits into society perfectly as a model citizen. How times have changed!
Lets not act as if 50 years ago society was better also this type of behaviour is not healthy even by modern standards. At least nowadays going to therapy is more societally acceptable and people are not ashamed to speak about their diagnoses. Also children and women have more rights now than they did back then.
Aahhh yes. Today she is the normal member of society and anyone who suspects or disagrees with her behavior is the antisocial person, probably a criminal, for being judgmental.
Like Bob Dylan’s song, “the Times they are a changing”!
@@TheQueenIsWithin nutty is normal now!
(As sarcastic as typing will let me show) maybe she didn’t know her pronouns. That would have solved all her problems.
She seems fine, no violence against others. "They turn you into a monster, then they call you one."
It is always interesting to be around people who come from families that rejected them. Some are rejected because they look like the absent parent or act like that parent. This poor soul learned early that she could not, should not express her needs. She had to get committed to a hospital in order to be able to speak. Dad may have been a scoundrel but Mom was a tyrant who squished this woman into muteness in the outside world.
yeh i would like to see footage of the mom
I agree! Her mother was the problem.
Do you know what's going on when the baby does not speak, and barely speak as an adult.
@@SomebodysGrandmother Drugs?
Great observations! (and believe me, I read a lot of 'em) You listed five things that seem to make up her perceived reality. Good information.
So she's around 65yrs old now. I wish they could track them down and see how they're doing now. Did she finally find a partner? She seems well adjusted; but dealing with psychic gifts, anxiety, stress, lack of guidance, and some bad choices from addiction. But she's not antisocial. It's also incredible to see a classic lesbian again since they started 'becoming rare' expression wise in the early 2000's. Now that gender lines are often no longer distinct among LGBTQ people, classic lesbians are few and far between. There's a certain energy of LGBTQ people born in the 1900's. I miss that. There's a beauty to classic lesbians that has nearly disappeared from all the gender blending. I hope gender expression makes a strong comeback in the next few decades. We often don't know how beautiful these sacred expressions are until they're already gone.
@@jusapoet72 if she was 65 today she’d be born in 1959 so around when this video was made. She was 21 at the time this was filmed so she must have passed years ago. I hope she felt free to always be her true self in her later years and found fulfilmment.
She was so insightful and wise.
As I was watching this, she had eye contact with the interviewer until he asked about her father. Down went her eyes, hardly any eye contact. I believe she had been abused in one way or another. Traumatized at home yet feeling safe in the hospital. Shock treatments were not needed. Love unconditionally was needed. Mothers who don’t know how to love. Back then being a lesbian etc…totally unacceptable. Doing things on a whim, acting out, sure signs of depression or other mental health issues.
Also would be traumatised by losing 3 children. 2 stillborn.
Is crazy she is diagnosed as anti social as she just seems traumatised and angry/ depressed and gay. Poor woman
It's acceptable to be a lesbian in these places. Probably true back then also.
She said her father was “a nice guy.” I saw plenty of eye contact..
If there was abuse at home it was more likely one of the brothers.
@@noquarter2No, homosexuality was considered a form of sexual disorder until it was removed from the DSM in 1973.
I love the way people talked back then
You mean speaking english clearly and fluently?
Vivian Vennicia Yup.
I know what you mean Paloma, If you see old interviews with Bob Dylan back in the day he had much the same way with him with good reason, I think a lot of it boils down to feelings of mistrust toward authority and the need to conceal information by giving the minimum of information.
In contrast people nowadays are ready too gush information to anyone at the drop of a hat no matter how personal it may be. It's hard to know though if it's a sign of a forward or backward step as regards the way humans communicate to each other.🎵
I think she speaks that way because she is highly intelligent. Watch part two if you haven’t seen it yet. The transformation is remarkable.
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So sad. Even though this interview took place 60 years ago, human sympathy just erases the years.
She sits before us as if it’s today.
Crazy
@@shewholaughslast No one is disputing that fact. I don’t know why you felt you had to write that.
@@shewholaughslastdumb reply that had nothing to do with the comment
This might be the best comment I've ever read on UA-cam.
My heart goes out to her. I wouldn't say she has antisocial personality disorder. Her mother treated her TERRIBLE. So cruel. To her mother she was a failure, a disappointment. I feel in her mind, "why not be one?"I hope her mom doesn't treat her 2 boys like that. And this strong woman got what she needed.
It's interesting to see what is considered 'antisocial disorders' in different decades. Which just goes to prove, to me, how very precarious psychiatric diagnosis are in any day and age! It is a very messed up industry.
Di Cruz...
Comment of the year, hell, the century. Bravo!
I can't help but wonder what she'd be diagnosed if at all in 2022. She may just have been a gay woman and not anti social. How difficult her life would have been for her at that time in history because of societal views then.
It always has and always will be something along the lines of two steps forward and five steps backwards.
Yes, so true, it's brutal.
@@reneegonseth7072 She might have been a lesbian, I dunno. She does talk about men a lot and was pregnant constantly. Some masculine women are straight - I know some.
I came across these interviews last night. I have binge watching them instead of sleeping. I don't know why I am so addicted to them.
8 pregnancies and births before the age of 21 ??!!!!
Some body started raping her when she was still a child....how could she NOT have mental health issues ??
Poor abused gal I pray that one day she felt loved and safe by some decent friends, neighbors, and her children. 💖
I guess you didn't hear her when she said she knew what she was doing. So you invented facts to fit your POV and attitudes. Is that how you live your life?
@@chuckschillingvideos
Well if you subtract 8 from 21 you get 13. Having sex with a 13 year old is statutory rape and child molestation....all the way thru age 17 in many states.
Just because someone says they knew what they were doing does not mean that they did.
I was molested at the age of thirteen and beyond. I had not even started menstruating... I sure as sh!t didn't know what was going on, and at the age of 21 I probably wouldn't have admitted that.
You are correct her unique experiences, attitudes, perspective are hers alone and may be very different from my own. Ask most experienced and knowledgeable adults if they think a 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, or 18 year old should be having children and I am guessing that most of them (if they are not pedophiles ) will sat no, it's too young. At least here in the United States. Ask most doctors, therapists, and social workers if they think it's a good idea and most of them will say it's not optimal for the teenager or their child. But I welcome feed- back from any and all ; folks what do you think ? Have you had similar experiences ? Was getting pregnant and having children in your early teens a good choice for you ?? Please share if you want to.
@@chuckschillingvideos
How is having 2 still born children and one die shortly after birth, and giving up 3 for adoption all before it's even legal to be doing so, not to mention physically healthy, any indication that she knew what she was doing ???
I've met lots of people in lots of situations, personal and professional, who said they knew what they were doing, but they absolutely did NOT.
If you could ask this woman at the age of 60 if she would do that all again, I wonder if she would by then feel secure and honest and mature enough to admit that she had no idea what she was doing.
Thank U 4 sharing !! I believe I've learned, more so. How the system trys 2 work, 2 their advantage!! It's 2023 now. Hey help administer anti-depressants, which could actually be repressing, other issues.
@@chuckschillingvideos that is internalized guilt from her evil mom. Her mom knew full well she was being molested and did nothing...but blame her.
She got married at 16, She had several pregnancies, a child adopted (maybe not what she wanted), gave birth to twins, and two husbands walk out on her. No wonder she was finding life difficult.
My view: She was likely rejected and emotionally abused from an early age by her mother, and siblings followed suit, along with school mates and society, who failed to appreciate her boyish appearance. The rejection and abuse resulted in false shame and guilt, followed by drug use, run-ins with the law and incarcerations. If she'd been raised by loving parents, she would very likely not ended up so sad and broken.
I love this woman!!! She seems down to earth and low key! She has been through a lot with pregnancies and etc. I hope she found Peace!
This woman is intelligent and very articulate. She expresses herself very elegantly. She is very patient with the psychiatrist, who on occasions comes across as rather brusque.
Most Americans around this times, even simple people, spoke much more eloquent than people speak today.
@@krollpeter Yes. Countless other items on UA-cam attest to this. The lady also had the manners to go with it.
I guess she's not kissing butt and placating like a woman is "supposed" to
@@krollpeter That's because pop culture of the 60s (and beyond )hadn't destroyed proper speaking yet.
@@axxis4853 You watch too many movies. Man-hate somewhere else.
Such an intelligent and articulate woman. I like her very much and I wish we knew what became of the rest of her life.
Glad to see I’m not the only person questioning the diagnosis…
I would love to know what became of this young lady.
The way she speaks about her "fine boys" tells me that she was a good mother to them, not like her own mother, who clearly hated her, constantly criticized her,
and made her feel worthless her entire life.
I hope she got away, got her kids, and had a happy life!
There is a part two follow up interview done maybe 5 years later
She pulls at my heart. You see a small child wondering why mommy doesn’t want her. Need her. Love her - or even really like her. She did nothing but be born into that psychosis.
I hope she’s a happier, loved and loving of herself person. My own mother had this same issue with me. It’s benumbing. Very hurtful at a very early age. Your “rock” keeps pushing you away. But I’ve led an inordinately happy life, full and prosperous and healthy -as I got away, at an early age, and made my way in life, learning, forgiving, and letting go all that pain that was never mine to carry. 👍
My 2 daughters are positive, wonderfully capable and loving adults with their own daughters whom they adore and cherish. I’m married 42 years now to my best friend and husband. I broke a loop that my own mother had been put through, herself and re-enacted, and we, my little family, are now fully rid of that past. Honesty and courage and love. It heals.
I wish they did updates on these.
And I will never understand how a mother cannot love their children.
So happy for you. I guess you treated your daughters exactly the opposite way your mother treated you.
I am a recovering alcoholic/addict and so much of her before and after life reminds me of before and after sobriety for me..... Sober now 36 years, it's like looking back in time for me
I feel like this interviewer is often suggestive and full of value judgements. It's interesting to witness this from a perspective of 60 years passed.
Agreed, full of judgements, but not so much judgmental.
OMG!! How horrible to throw away this beautiful soul! She needed help, in the form of acceptance and love, PERIOD!
I know you mean well, but with someone with ASPD it’s a dangerous game you’re playing when lending aide to us. We seek out vulnerabilities and focus on that until we’re done or bored (like me). We twist truths to make ourselves look better or gain sympathy. We feel very little or no remorse but understand what empathy and remorse is. We are justified in what we do, even if it’s violent, illegal, or damaging to others.
This is of course on a spectrum, but if you are diagnosed with ASPD (sociopathy), then you have to be actively careful not to be a heartless person lol.
The modern day says “be your true self! You don’t have to mask!” But that’s only if you are harmless and have non violent thoughts. I think we should keep it that way.
That being said it’s a personality disorder that’s been cultivated with trauma and abuse. Therapy can help lots! But if they’re not seeking help? Boy howdy that’s a pickle for everyone.
I think she would eat people up and spit them out. Scary woman.
That's 100% true. Love and acceptance. We need to be reparented
That poor girl was basically abused by her family, the psychologists and society in general and these monsters labeled her with "antisocial personality disorder" because she basically did what she wanted. I can relate to her so much. It's why I won't talk to people about my own depression anymore. People, in general, are just plain awful.
So true
I just watched the follow up interview, 5 years later - she was only 19/20 in this interview she had been through so much. Such an articulate woman just trying to live her life in a society that wanted her to live another way. Heartbreaking.
Is the follow up video on this channel
Could you post the link for the other interview with her?
Is it possible for you to link to the follow up video, please 🙏
ua-cam.com/video/QcIRSEnC4L8/v-deo.html
It keeps removing the link for some reason, if it happens again search for patient 1 & it’s a colour video & you’ll recognise her. It’s still haunting me, she was just born in the wrong time & place. 😢
She would be 84 now if she is still alive. I hope she found peace and had a good life.
My 17 year old granddaughter, her mother sent her to live with us when she was 15. She was out of control, her mom didn't want her anymore. She is now 17. She is soft spoken, sounds so sweet when she speaks, just like this girl.The first year was very bad. She lied, stole, snuck out at night, wouldn't get out of bed for school. There has been so much improvement! She has stopped all the bad behavior. The only problem at this time is school, she barely passes 11th grade this year. We are Christians, we just kept loving her, patiently working with her on her bad behavior. We haven't stopped praying and love her unconditionally. It is not easy, but she seemed so miserable and now she is happy, loving and a sweet girl! I hope and pray she makes it in this world! I love her so much. And this young lady, all she needed was love, understanding and guidance. I hope she found herself, happiness and the love of God! She seems like a beautiful soul! 🙏🌹
Maybe conventional school isn't right for her. She could go online or get a GED and go to community college.
It’s your prayers 🙌bless your heart!♥️ Awesome job! 🙏
Congratulations!👏👏
Yes, she also needs salvation and deliverance.
@@TodaysBibleTruth I wish I could upload a gif to show exactly how dumb this statement is. 🤣
Are you suggesting that you prayed for her and therefore she got better? Do you believe that if you had not prayed for her she would not have improved? Are you suggesting that your prayers are what healed your grand daughter??
She’s a very sweet person. I feel bad her family didn’t treat her well. She’s very intelligent. Seems like she got married to get out of her house.
Hey there! I came across your comment and I just had to reach out and say hi. Your perspective really caught my attention and I would love to get to know you better. Would you be interested in chatting sometime? Looking forward to hearing back from you! 😊
Yea, that was common back then. That's why they got married young.
@@robynandrews4384 yeah they did. My mom was 19 when she married my dad. He was 22. There’s something really classy about this lady. Almost old Hollywood. She reminds me of one of the old stars ⭐️
@@leighsaldivar4439 Yea, even the down and out were classier then what we have today lol. I like the way she speaks. Respectful even though it's awkward for her.
@@robynandrews4384 for sure. The people today are slobs compared to them. I love that era. I think I was born in the wrong one.
Interesting interview. So many variables. She does display willful self-defiance, has had multiple arrests, spent time in institutions, many pregnancies and is just 21. Given the generation this takes place in, the stigma of mental illness, the lack of psychiatric knowledge (still using shock treatment) and ignorance of her parents contributed to this terrible storm. She presents quite intelligent and admits herself into the hospital. Admitted oneself to a hospital AND requesting their own shock treatment is RARE for someone that is insane. I struggle with how much the therapist is talking? Perhaps putting “ideas” in her head? Again, she presents very intelligent, defiant and manipulative of those around her and the system back then. I do question the abuse theory with her? She prefers the structure of being in a hospital. Being cared for, meals and bed given to her. She is very insightful to her own mental health. Very puzzling
Gary Gilmour requested the chair.
Polite, articulate, no F bombs, no tattoos....by today's standards she would be considered a perfectly nice young lady.
Not sure.
But it sure hurts to see the complete dive into trash from kids and young adults.. Smells like the end of a civilization.
yes, indeed, Mark
What's wrong with tattoos you dusty old fk
I'd love to see you run that mouth at the next big NAS show to all the jacked 300+ lb world record holders
Always some test deficient old fk that no female goes near running its mouth from its basement where he keeps his broken down, busted out SO
@@lockandloadlikehell calm down and use your head instead of the keyboard.
@@shaskins15 lol rekt
No matter what era it is, this is still going strong today. Some things never change. I find this footage fascinating and sad. I can tell she's very lonely, depressed and feels isolated because she is not free to be who she really is. Imagine the stigma of being a lesbian or bisexual back then. I wonder whatever happened to her. 😢
She recovered well, she did another interview and she's wearing a lovely dress and is smiling and happy, I still think she's a closet lesbian though
I myself am heterosexual but not to be who you are or what to be is so very sad, people can be so cruel and judgemental. People should be able & feel confident to live there lives, feeling comfortable and happy within there bodies ❤ without criticism & people being judgemental towards there sexuality, there not harming anybody. ❤
There’s only so much we can glean from a half hour long interview, but a couple of things really struck me. First of all, the societal pressure she felt to be married and have a nuclear family. She is clearly androgynous in a time where that was unusual, and while we may not know her sexuality we do know many gays and lesbians of that era had little choice but to live heterosexual lifestyles. I can’t imagine what that would do to someone’s sense of identity and their mind.
She also says she feels most at ease and comfortable when she is in prison or in a hospital. The doctor seems to have a difficult time understanding this, but it does make a certain amount of sense. She is guaranteed a roof, and prisons could be an escape from a reality that’s very traumatic and painful.
It’s also not lost on me the amount of trauma she has endured. She lost three babies, two stillborn and one live birth. She had a set of twins given up for adoption, and two living with her seemingly abusive mother.
If she is still alive, I hope her mind and heart are now at peace.
I absolutely love that they had a follow up on her.. same man interviewed her.. she actually found a really great man and married him and she was doing really well and they raised her children together ❤ she seems so happy in the newer video.. all those years of therapy and all she needed was some love, patience and compassion..
Yeah....that's not the case at all! Read the book 'Splitting: a case of female masculinity' written by the man interviewing (Robert J stoller) and the whole book is based on his years-long therapy sessions with this woman. It was written a few years after the follow up interview!
The main symptoms of Antisocial behavior are violence and lack of remorse for others and personal actions. The only thing I see is risky behavior and not thinking of the aftermath of decisions. I wouldn't say she is Antisocial. Just rebelliousness as she was never accepted by society or with family. Not sure if she is on medication, probably is, but she seems shameful for her decisions and does have remorse for her mistakes. She appears depressed. Bi Polar disorders should be explored as her risky behavior may have taken place during a manic state which is common.
No no no no no. Don't bring bipolar into this at all, the fake Americanised American inventing disorder basically doesn't exist and she isn't touching any of what it's supposed to be anyhow.
And do remember, she said that she hides a lot right at the beginning, you're not going to get the full picture from this lady by what she saying on this video, in fact you could get more from her actions.
@@karendegenerous8044 Do you think it is normal to not sleep for 3-4 days? Have you ever not slept for 3-4 days? Do you know what happens to the brain when you don't? Your decision making abilities are gone, your desire for living on the edge sounds like fun, you will try to commit crimes because you feel invincible, you will drive drunk because you are the life of the party and don't want to party to stop. You will engage in risky behavior not caring about the outcome. You become hyper sexualized and will engage in promiscuous behavior. You can accomplish 4 times the normal person in the same time frame, you will ring up a credit card not thinking about how to pay for it, and again, you have no regard for the law. You can't turn your brain off. You can't hold a job or relationships. You can become angry for no reason. Then you start hearing things that aren't there, yet you know it isn't real. You will pace the floor, unable to sleep and talk to yourself or people that aren't there. Then, comes the roller coaster crash where you will slip into a depression because you have fried your brain of all endorphins, etc etc. You will sleep for 13 hours, wake to eat, then do it all over again. Then after about a week to a month you will feel level. Y How do I know? Because I'm bipolar. I need my medication and it works because......Bipolar is not made up you fool. I'll gladly trade sides with you. I cycle every 3 months on a never ending roller coaster. If you think it is made up, then yes it is, in name but the symptoms are very real. You know nothing until you walk in someone's shoes and you have no right to comment on something clearly.........you know nothing about.
Exactly what I was just thinking
@@karendegenerous8044 you're wrong to say what you have. I am bipolar. And it's real.
you're not a psychologist are you?
Why in the description did you list lesbianism as one of the traits of her antisocial personality? Lol
Art Nerd32 because the reason why she doesn’t feel anything is because she does things because she can’t feel and she did that to feel and it didn’t work
I just copied and pasted the original description, you will have to take it up with the 1960s.
@@jasonhymes3382 have you heard the song WRONG by Depeche Mode?
@@virtuelle3460 it's not listed as a trait but as part of her life history along with all others mentioned...as u can surely imagine, ilegitimate pregnancies, for example, is not a personality trait
I met a few gay women who are just like this lady. Different circumstances but similar life decisions even to point of having children. Same affects. Plus this chick is a liar with blatant tells. STEER CLEAR!
She's surprisingly clear-headed for someone who had EST so recently.
I had it many years ago on hospital.
RUINED my life
I'm certain that whatever "help" she received made her problems worse. EST being one of them. A psychiatric ward could drive a sane person mental. She would have been better off left alone or with outpatient treatment.
@@dtbristol it's sad that she feels happy only when she is confined though. She prefers being kept, maybe because it takes away the choice.
@@catseatcookiessofiagacha5210 maybe it was the only place she felt safe if her home life was abusive, which I highly suspect are the root & cause of any issues!
And so many...barbaric !!!
She seems like a nice lady. I admire her confidence and regardless if she was a lesbian or not, I don’t think society nor her mother treated her with the love and respect she needed. I hope she reunited with her kids and is happy wherever she is❤️