Hmhmmm, to the one issue with special drug affinities of Histrionics,kinds of Borderliners, Narcs it seemed to fit "in cocain veritas". It was mostly like a physical mentality test. They love it, they love the optional feeling of having a high value status with it. It's like acceptable compliments, applause, the conditioned winning procedure. But it is just functional, as long ou think in such categories and (let) connect your feelings, hormons that way. So covert narcs, and humble Borderliners let out their inner goals, phantasies of that race for being high value etc. A grounded person knows, that value is just a fiction, that it is a puppet game in which the wannabe masters and suffering losers are puppets. And of course, it is not absolute in every case a functional test. 😄
I've read and listened to lots of analysis regarding psychopathy and that seems like a totally different "anomaly" than aspd. Especially high functioning psychopaths, like surgeons, lawyers, special forces soldiers, etc.
It's possible most supposed and much-hyped "high functioning psychopaths" are just misdiagnosed schizoids/narcissists/histrionics/etc. In fact in the book "Hysterical Personality Style and the Histrionic Personality Disorder" it's argued most male histrionics are just misdiagnosed with ASPD (on the rare occasions they end up being evaluated, often in prison).
Great lecture Prof. Thank you so much, I do appreciate what you do! I also recommend the book The Sociopath Next Door and Outsmarting the Sociopath by Martha Stout, really helpful books as well as great books by Prof Sam Vaknin ex How to Cope with Narcissistic and Psychopathic Abusers and Stalkers. Extremely helpful!
When you say "Okaaaay" it makes me smile. Thank you for this information. I was reading a study from the NIH the other day about the inheritability of BPD. I have an aces score of 8 but my father is severely BPD. I have some BPD tendencies (but am aware and keep them from being pathological). I was wondering if you could sometime do a video on the possible genetic component of BPD.
I meant that the anxiety that they have are on an instinctual level, like how to survive in this world type of anxiety and also they probably have a lot of boredom anxiety cause their emotionality is pretty low.
@@Mr_MHunter Not many things preoccupying their head cause it's very hard for them to attach to something/someone emotionally, constantly trying to find new and novel things to satisfy them, it never ends.
Very informative. I grew up in a highly dysfunctional environment full of people with NPD (and in a cult). I guess I was spared that fate by always being puzzled about the nonsense that was happening, getting out early and going into therapy 🤔🧭
What would you say is most likely a person who has addictions, is a smooth manipulator, strategic, very intelligent, appears normal, but escalates to almost killing the spouse? Would have had he not been found out. He worked hard to cover his tracts, but several things were uncovered. Unintentional on his part of course. His addictions were cocaine, alcohol and women. He was able to fool a Psychiatrist and a psychologist. He took the gold standard test that took 2 hours to do. He said he knew what they wanted to hear, so he answered what they wanted to hear.
I carefully take notes while watching your videos to discuss them with my therapist. A person I am (unfortunately) intimate with, shows signs of sadism: public humiliation, intimidation in private, lacks empathy, also towards animals, sometimes. Once he has chest-bumped me when I told him he could not speak to me the way he did. When confronted with his actions, he never takes responsibility. To point out his failures means there will be punishment. At the same time, people who don´t know him well, adore him because he is helpful and generous. He says he wants to make the world a better place. He has, to some extent, a problem with alcohol too. He had a bad car accident ( bad head injury in his childhood)
You have to pose as intimidating enough of a threat to him to have him back down. At this point as well he will leave. He is not engaged in this relationship for enrichment. This is coming from a person with psychopathic traits. In my world, dignity is self imposed. I cognitively care about boundaries, but instinctually don’t give a shit. I tread lightly only if I perceive someone can be a bigger threat to me.
@@oswurth8774I think I have aspd and I’m trying to self diagnose I am 18 years old and I have most symptoms that people with aspd do. If I tell you some of the things I do and how I act could you tell me your opinion?
Drugs, violence on tv and on the internet, pornography, lack of identity, broken families and lack of love are destroying our society. Thank you, professor, we love you. God bless you!!
I was just thinking that...😂😂.. I don't see how the rest of that stuff that was mentioned could possibly destroy society as a whole... Sounds more like a person issue@@kennsughrue
Those of us who have had the distinct pleasure of being mind-bent by these types--repeatedly--really get to say whom they dealt with. I say psychopaths for all 3 of mine. Don't much care what the diagnostic manuals declare...best to discover what it is about ME and my experiences that attracts them. This is just my opinion, of course. But works for me.
That's physically impossible for 1 woman have dated 3 phsychopaths, she would have to be pulling them from the psych ward, there aren't enough in one city for one woman to date. Now alcoholics, they tend to be abusive so were u a frequent bar attender or drinker?
@@GTFCEO no, you are dead WRONG. And you can consult any of the online experts in this, they pretty much use the blanket term of "narcissists" but the behaviors, in my opinion, are so evil and bent on destroying the target that I KNOW it is beyond narcissism. Yes, once you've been with one you attract others. They are FAR more prevalent than you believe.
What goes inside the anti social person when they beat their intimate partner up? What's their aim? Are they too stupid to realise that doing this would eventually drive their partner to run away plus people would know and this would ruin their image and reputation I have both of your books I just thought if you could discuss this and provide an update if there is any recent research about the subject since you have released your books
Alot of abused women in here, that can't just be blamed on aspd. Aspd doesnt mean you would physically hurt your spouse especially a woman! That sounds like a a POS abuser and should be left immediately. Alcoholics abuse their wives FAR more than any anti social
@@GTFCEO Alcoholic females also highly abuse their male intimate partners... Especially so when Borderline. Yes this happened to me. And 3 weeks ago she passed away in an unfortunate accident, just as Vaknin alludes too...
@@GTFCEO alcohol just allows people's masks to drop off. They were already sick before the alcohol. The alcohol just makes them disable the hand brake in their vehicle.
Maybe it’s aspd that I have , I don’t intentionally try to hurt people though. Unless I’m drunk and it’s a fight or something which I never do unless I’m beinh provoked. It’s like I don’t fit perfectly into a category.
Is it possible the distribution being heavier on the lower end of the education/intelligence spectrum be due to anti-social individuals of higher education/intelligence recognizing the severe disadvantages of outward displays of psychopathy/avoid the diagnosis to not impede their goals’ progress? Love your work! Thank you for sharing this information with the world!
I was dating a 40 year old who has a masters in psychology with antisocial personality disorder, he left me when I confronted him about his substance abuse and immediately started dating a 27 year old psychopath…the girl has tortured someone and beat her ex bf causing brain damage. I’m concerned for how things will turn out. Can antisocial person date a psychopath? How long before things get intense?
Can you be antisocial /psychotic and have schizophrenic affective disorder? I know someone who is schizophrenic, bipolar, and is now becoming a criminal with sex crimes, DUIs and menacing crimes. Does schizophrenia rule it out?
Good question. I don't know the answer, but methinks yes. Very possible. Especially if the delusions of grandeur sway into schizoaffective tendencies. Again, I don't know the depth of research on this yet, but I would think so.
Thank you for giving actually interesting information on everyone's favorite disorder, it's hard to find among the pop-culture hype of psychopaths being genius-IQ Machiavellians. I know you set forth how you would rework the DSM to categorize social-relational disorders and many differences between these disorders, but it would also be interesting to see how you would differentiate NPD/ASPD/Psychopathy in a diagnostic text for the "average" clinician or even layman. Basically, if you had the opportunity to lay out a handful of "boxes" that should be checked for someone mostly otherwise clueless to have decent odds of differentiating between these disorders, what would you focus on? Because it seems currently it's quite broken due to too much overlap, and it would be interesting to see how you could make them more "independent" of one another.
@@samvaknin I thought you might say that tbh since I worded the question poorly, I can't exactly verbalize what I'm getting at and I know you've listed plenty of differences... but basically the literal, actual alternative to the current DSM text for each. Probably a silly question.
Addictions are reinforced always with big risky behavior simultaneously with drug use..ex; shooting meth in public and risky sex..the triple risk..then in-between seeking dopamine surges through other ppl and risky activities.furat thing an addict APD NPD say after a few days of no drug use is: " I'm bored" if in AA they immediately target another person after sizing them up..drag others down and use them for dopamine, adrenaline surges
I think we have complicated things too much... I am autistic, my family is all autistic and they are all psychopaths, malignant narcissists or narc, histrionic or schizophrenic, no empathy... except me... it cannot be a coincidence. Not all autistic people are psychopaths but all psychopaths, narc, cluster B are autistic, that's why there are so many symptoms that overlap with autism (Aspergers). Narcissists also have emotional temporary psychosis, could it be linked to schizophrenia? Why are they believing lies they are creating in their mind, doesn't sound like schizophrenia to you? Cluster B + autism + schizophrenia... the link between all of them IS autism! OCD is very common in cluster B, they just don't show it like cluster C because the level of anxiety is not the same... OCD includes hoarding disorder, many narc I know are like that.
I always come across contradictory information regarding this subject ua-cam.com/video/AHk7S6prF6M/v-deo.html In that video ⬆they state that research shows psychopaths are not anxious at all, according to that, their brains allow them to do all sorts of impulsive stuff without releasing cortisol, elevating pulse, etc. Then I see a video that says this personality disorder is correlated with low IQ, after that a research shows that politicians and people in elevated position are more likely to have psychopathy, which I know it's not the same as APD. I honestly don't know what to believe anymore. Right now that's all I can remember, but I know I have heard more contradictory facts about it. If someone has a good investigation to share I will appreciate it:( Also, I know psychology is still making new discovery's, and all mental disorders keep getting updated, but is kinda puzzling. Sorry if my English sucks, I speak Spanish
There is no debate among scholars that people with antisocial personality disorder suffer from anxiety disorders. Rather than rely on Dr. UA-cam, suggest you conduct your research on scholar.google.com
Welp. There goes my @dder@ll 20mg XR prescription. I’ve been on it roughly a year, no signs of dependence or addiction so far; I sometimes forget whether or not I took it 😵💫 I do think Strattera or Concerta would be a better fit. Something to help manage stress and anxiety in addition to my ADHD symptoms. Leaning more toward Strattera because it’s also technically not a stimulant.
Reload the page after the warning.
Hmhmmm, to the one issue with special drug affinities of Histrionics,kinds of Borderliners, Narcs it seemed to fit "in cocain veritas".
It was mostly like a physical mentality test. They love it, they love the optional feeling of having a high value status with it.
It's like acceptable compliments, applause, the conditioned winning procedure.
But it is just functional, as long ou think in such categories and (let) connect your feelings, hormons that way. So covert narcs, and humble Borderliners let out their inner goals, phantasies of that race for being high value etc.
A grounded person knows, that value is just a fiction, that it is a puppet game in which the wannabe masters and suffering losers are puppets.
And of course, it is not absolute in every case a functional test. 😄
Nothing like some sam vaknin while the birds are chirping on this thursday morning
try it for a night time soothing audio,even better this man will help you sleep.
@@mypimento maybe it was wishful thinking? lol
Yes it's very Wednesday, everywhere 😂
@@mypimento Timezones. It's Thursday from where I am right now.
Something weirdly comforting listening to Sam Vaknin speak hey… becoming my go to past time 😂
I've read and listened to lots of analysis regarding psychopathy and that seems like a totally different "anomaly" than aspd. Especially high functioning psychopaths, like surgeons, lawyers, special forces soldiers, etc.
It's possible most supposed and much-hyped "high functioning psychopaths" are just misdiagnosed schizoids/narcissists/histrionics/etc. In fact in the book "Hysterical Personality Style and the Histrionic Personality Disorder" it's argued most male histrionics are just misdiagnosed with ASPD (on the rare occasions they end up being evaluated, often in prison).
One grow up in poverty ; the other with some education and opportunity
Great lecture Prof. Thank you so much, I do appreciate what you do! I also recommend the book The Sociopath Next Door and Outsmarting the Sociopath by Martha Stout, really helpful books as well as great books by Prof Sam Vaknin ex How to Cope with Narcissistic and Psychopathic Abusers and Stalkers. Extremely helpful!
When you say "Okaaaay" it makes me smile. Thank you for this information. I was reading a study from the NIH the other day about the inheritability of BPD. I have an aces score of 8 but my father is severely BPD. I have some BPD tendencies (but am aware and keep them from being pathological). I was wondering if you could sometime do a video on the possible genetic component of BPD.
I believe that Psychopaths are extremelly anxious individuals but their anxiety is not caused by something external but is a general feeling.
Of course it’s external because if there were NO humans on this earth but him he wouldn’t be anxious.
I meant that the anxiety that they have are on an instinctual level, like how to survive in this world type of anxiety and also they probably have a lot of boredom anxiety cause their emotionality is pretty low.
@@justified2065 please expand on “boredom anxiety”.
@@Mr_MHunter Not many things preoccupying their head cause it's very hard for them to attach to something/someone emotionally, constantly trying to find new and novel things to satisfy them, it never ends.
@@justified2065So your saying if a tiger would appear before them, they would not feel anxiety or terror?
Very informative. I grew up in a highly dysfunctional environment full of people with NPD (and in a cult). I guess I was spared that fate by always being puzzled about the nonsense that was happening, getting out early and going into therapy 🤔🧭
You are the prince of Psychology
What would you say is most likely a person who has addictions, is a smooth manipulator, strategic, very intelligent, appears normal, but escalates to almost killing the spouse? Would have had he not been found out. He worked hard to cover his tracts, but several things were uncovered. Unintentional on his part of
course. His addictions were cocaine, alcohol and women. He was able to fool a Psychiatrist and a psychologist. He took the gold standard test that took 2 hours to do. He said he knew what they wanted to hear, so he answered what they wanted to hear.
C-PTSD and eating disorders are very comorbid. I have both along with OCD.
Lmao everyone claims to have ptsd… it pathetic
@@thepretender3814 . I was actually diagnosed by a team.
@@thepretender3814 Anybody ever tell you that you're a jerk
@@thepretender3814Pretty true, I think.
So interesting! I am with out doubt that my brother is a psychopath now and also my father .
I love your videos Professor Vaknin!! So informative. You bring the information to life in such an interesting way.
I'm happy I have come across this channel. I must read your books.
I carefully take notes while watching your videos to discuss them with my therapist. A person I am (unfortunately) intimate with, shows signs of sadism: public humiliation, intimidation in private, lacks empathy, also towards animals, sometimes. Once he has chest-bumped me when I told him he could not speak to me the way he did. When confronted with his actions, he never takes responsibility. To point out his failures means there will be punishment. At the same time, people who don´t know him well, adore him because he is helpful and generous. He says he wants to make the world a better place. He has, to some extent, a problem with alcohol too.
He had a bad car accident ( bad head injury in his childhood)
You have to pose as intimidating enough of a threat to him to have him back down. At this point as well he will leave. He is not engaged in this relationship for enrichment. This is coming from a person with psychopathic traits. In my world, dignity is self imposed. I cognitively care about boundaries, but instinctually don’t give a shit. I tread lightly only if I perceive someone can be a bigger threat to me.
@@oswurth8774I think I have aspd and I’m trying to self diagnose I am 18 years old and I have most symptoms that people with aspd do. If I tell you some of the things I do and how I act could you tell me your opinion?
I also think I have aspd because my dad might also have it and I was physically abused as a child
Thank you for these videos !
Drugs, violence on tv and on the internet, pornography, lack of identity, broken families and lack of love are destroying our society. Thank you, professor, we love you. God bless you!!
@@st.blackops2cel61Religion /=/ spirituality
Dont forget religion
I was just thinking that...😂😂.. I don't see how the rest of that stuff that was mentioned could possibly destroy society as a whole... Sounds more like a person issue@@kennsughrue
Thanks, these terms are used very loosely in common conversation, and they are a very frequent topic of conversation in the US.
It would be interesting to see the socio-economic data of these populations mentioned as well in some future video
Those of us who have had the distinct pleasure of being mind-bent by these types--repeatedly--really get to say whom they dealt with. I say psychopaths for all 3 of mine. Don't much care what the diagnostic manuals declare...best to discover what it is about ME and my experiences that attracts them. This is just my opinion, of course. But works for me.
That's physically impossible for 1 woman have dated 3 phsychopaths, she would have to be pulling them from the psych ward, there aren't enough in one city for one woman to date. Now alcoholics, they tend to be abusive so were u a frequent bar attender or drinker?
@@GTFCEO no, you are dead WRONG. And you can consult any of the online experts in this, they pretty much use the blanket term of "narcissists" but the behaviors, in my opinion, are so evil and bent on destroying the target that I KNOW it is beyond narcissism. Yes, once you've been with one you attract others. They are FAR more prevalent than you believe.
As a marter of fact, if you bother to observe who all runs the earth at this point....well, need I spell it out?
@user-jl8yy5ir7s Wow. Not engaging. You believe what you want. I don't care.
What goes inside the anti social person when they beat their intimate partner up? What's their aim?
Are they too stupid to realise that doing this would eventually drive their partner to run away plus people would know and this would ruin their image and reputation
I have both of your books I just thought if you could discuss this and provide an update if there is any recent research about the subject since you have released your books
Alot of abused women in here, that can't just be blamed on aspd. Aspd doesnt mean you would physically hurt your spouse especially a woman! That sounds like a a POS abuser and should be left immediately. Alcoholics abuse their wives FAR more than any anti social
@@GTFCEO Alcoholic females also highly abuse their male intimate partners... Especially so when Borderline. Yes this happened to me. And 3 weeks ago she passed away in an unfortunate accident, just as Vaknin alludes too...
@@GTFCEO alcohol just allows people's masks to drop off. They were already sick before the alcohol. The alcohol just makes them disable the hand brake in their vehicle.
100% the psychopath is reckless nor fearless.
Thank you Prof 🙏
Maybe it’s aspd that I have , I don’t intentionally try to hurt people though. Unless I’m drunk and it’s a fight or something which I never do unless I’m beinh provoked. It’s like I don’t fit perfectly into a category.
Do you often act impulsively and against society? Im pretty sure I have aspd and I’m trying to self diagnosis
Is it possible the distribution being heavier on the lower end of the education/intelligence spectrum be due to anti-social individuals of higher education/intelligence recognizing the severe disadvantages of outward displays of psychopathy/avoid the diagnosis to not impede their goals’ progress? Love your work! Thank you for sharing this information with the world!
I was dating a 40 year old who has a masters in psychology with antisocial personality disorder, he left me when I confronted him about his substance abuse and immediately started dating a 27 year old psychopath…the girl has tortured someone and beat her ex bf causing brain damage. I’m concerned for how things will turn out. Can antisocial person date a psychopath? How long before things get intense?
The sellers and buyers of drugs are basically the same person.
These videos are helping direct my summer this year
Can you be antisocial /psychotic and have schizophrenic affective disorder? I know someone who is schizophrenic, bipolar, and is now becoming a criminal with sex crimes, DUIs and menacing crimes. Does schizophrenia rule it out?
Good question. I don't know the answer, but methinks yes. Very possible. Especially if the delusions of grandeur sway into schizoaffective tendencies. Again, I don't know the depth of research on this yet, but I would think so.
Excellent video Sam
Can CBT and somatic therapies be of any use in treating people with APD ?
Thanks.
No.
@@samvakninThanks Sam
Just started to watch. What can make such a contant have a warning. 😮
Daily dose of Professor Vaknin ✅
Thank you for giving actually interesting information on everyone's favorite disorder, it's hard to find among the pop-culture hype of psychopaths being genius-IQ Machiavellians. I know you set forth how you would rework the DSM to categorize social-relational disorders and many differences between these disorders, but it would also be interesting to see how you would differentiate NPD/ASPD/Psychopathy in a diagnostic text for the "average" clinician or even layman. Basically, if you had the opportunity to lay out a handful of "boxes" that should be checked for someone mostly otherwise clueless to have decent odds of differentiating between these disorders, what would you focus on? Because it seems currently it's quite broken due to too much overlap, and it would be interesting to see how you could make them more "independent" of one another.
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@@samvaknin I thought you might say that tbh since I worded the question poorly, I can't exactly verbalize what I'm getting at and I know you've listed plenty of differences... but basically the literal, actual alternative to the current DSM text for each. Probably a silly question.
Addictions are reinforced always with big risky behavior simultaneously with drug use..ex; shooting meth in public and risky sex..the triple risk..then in-between seeking dopamine surges through other ppl and risky activities.furat thing an addict APD NPD say after a few days of no drug use is: " I'm bored" if in AA they immediately target another person after sizing them up..drag others down and use them for dopamine, adrenaline surges
Why was I born a psychopath? Can I just get a redux?
I think we have complicated things too much... I am autistic, my family is all autistic and they are all psychopaths, malignant narcissists or narc, histrionic or schizophrenic, no empathy... except me... it cannot be a coincidence. Not all autistic people are psychopaths but all psychopaths, narc, cluster B are autistic, that's why there are so many symptoms that overlap with autism (Aspergers). Narcissists also have emotional temporary psychosis, could it be linked to schizophrenia? Why are they believing lies they are creating in their mind, doesn't sound like schizophrenia to you? Cluster B + autism + schizophrenia... the link between all of them IS autism!
OCD is very common in cluster B, they just don't show it like cluster C because the level of anxiety is not the same... OCD includes hoarding disorder, many narc I know are like that.
Watch the comorbidities playlist.
@@samvaknin where?
Thank you.
Maybe try some acid helps a ton with getting emotional
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I always come across contradictory information regarding this subject
ua-cam.com/video/AHk7S6prF6M/v-deo.html
In that video ⬆they state that research shows psychopaths are not anxious at all, according to that, their brains allow them to do all sorts of impulsive stuff without releasing cortisol, elevating pulse, etc. Then I see a video that says this personality disorder is correlated with low IQ, after that a research shows that politicians and people in elevated position are more likely to have psychopathy, which I know it's not the same as APD. I honestly don't know what to believe anymore. Right now that's all I can remember, but I know I have heard more contradictory facts about it.
If someone has a good investigation to share I will appreciate it:(
Also, I know psychology is still making new discovery's, and all mental disorders keep getting updated, but is kinda puzzling.
Sorry if my English sucks, I speak Spanish
There is no debate among scholars that people with antisocial personality disorder suffer from anxiety disorders. Rather than rely on Dr. UA-cam, suggest you conduct your research on scholar.google.com
Sam we understand you Our IQ isn´t prepared for being normal
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Reload the page.
What about the ventromedial prefrontal cortex and even the ventromedial hypothalamus?
Welp. There goes my @dder@ll 20mg XR prescription. I’ve been on it roughly a year, no signs of dependence or addiction so far; I sometimes forget whether or not I took it 😵💫
I do think Strattera or Concerta would be a better fit. Something to help manage stress and anxiety in addition to my ADHD symptoms. Leaning more toward Strattera because it’s also technically not a stimulant.