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I got a bug where all of my items on missions duplicated to 99 about 10 years ago And after reseting the game, all of my honey from box had dissappeared! Only honey. Nothing else. Was afraid of bugs and glitches in any game afterwards (well, mhfu was not the only reason).
I've been playing MH for almost 7 years by now, and i still remember what got me into the series. It was the MH Portable 3rd trailer where the hunter was fighting an Arzuros with the Yukumo Longsword. At the time I thought that was the coolest shit I've ever seen so I wanted to try the game out. Since then I fell in love with the game, the mechanics, the lore, the constant rush the big monsters give me, everything! And also since then I've been a lonsword main even when i didn't know half of what this magnificent weapon had to offer. Believe me when I say that I'm glad to see how much it's changed over the entries, that way i got to play and experiment but most of all to have fun relearning the reason why I got into the series. Thank you for uploading this video, it really made my day and got me into a really cool nostalgia trip :) Everyone who took the time to read my coment to the end please do have a really good day :)
@@SuperRADLemon so here is an interesting trick you can do with the long sword, have you ever used a weapon known as Windeater? it is from monster hunter 3 ultimate. Basically, it is supposed to be one of the later weapons, since you need light crystals to make it, which cannot be obtained until you reach the frozen tundra, but because you can go to these areas much sooner then normal by doing guild missions, you can get it much sooner, it has a power level of 429, and 2 decoration slots, with decent sharpness. That weapon has carried me through a lot of the early game missions. the only major downside to the wind eater is the materials needed to upgrade it, you can't get those until after a long time.
So glad you mentioned the old Great Swords had the Long Sword models 🙏🏻 I'll never forget swinging Iron Gospel around in MHFreedom thinking it looked so funny swinging like a G Sword even though it was long and very skinny
I would honestly like to see a video on the Lance - because it seems that whenever the team does something experimental which completely encompasses the game (underwater combat, clutch claw, mounting), the Lance is the weapon which can use it the best. Seriously, Lance's moveset underwater was unmatched and the Clutch Claw literally feels *built* for the Lance.
A huge part of LS bad rep is how easy is is to not just trip but trip lock other players. There are other weapons that can trip lock but the big difference between them is the area is which they “deny” and it makes it extremely easy for a LS player with poor multiplayer positioning knowledge and courtesy to have a high negative impact on others hunters experience.
Note: Helmbreaker is currently bugged in the Rise Demo, Dataminers found a number which is pointing to somewhere it shouldn't be, causing it to be doing double the intended damage.
Yeah, I agree the LS honestly doesn't deserve the stigma it gets: its a good weapon thats even better in the right hands, imo. I do love me some sweet, sweet Switch Axe content, though
Longsword is one of the weapons I didnt really play that much. Mainly due to the reasons you mentioned. Dont get me wrong, the weapons IS really good. But I rather play weapons like HH, Swaxe or SnS.
Idk why nobody seems to have noticed but in the trailer where a longsword user is fighting a Tetranadon, the silkbind move being showcased is actually functionally similar to the Sakura Slash. So it will be in the game presumably
The hunter’s notes mentions that the iai spirit slash should be taking levels for mistiming counters, but even so with the level increase on connecting counters, I can see crit draw builds being a lot funner than iceborne. Especially now that you can go into a special sheathe right after iai spirit slash.
Something you missed for 4th gen (or to my knowledge at least in 4G) landing spirit roundhouse, while does not refill your gauge, it will pause the depletion for 10 seconds. Overall great video!
Amazing stuff, I didn't know they went back and forth with the spirit level thing, then again I barely played LS. I want Capcom to redistribute good hitzones evenly amongst a monster's body, they've centralized everything on the head, and they also need make the effectiveness of damage types on specific body parts more like it was before. This would help tremendously on the tripping problem of things like LS and IG without outright removing weapon-player interactions.
Long Sword was my original main in 3U (3DS version), my first MH game. Honestly I was awful with it though and became a Great Sword main in 4U which I was significantly better with. I've been a Great Sword main and Sword and Shield secondary since but I'd love to try and learn this weapon at some point, maybe in Rise.
i used to play a lot of LS in freedom unite. So basically i was in this forum and they started hating me then banning me for using this weapon, mostly mods and admins were only heavy bowgun toxic users.
Well, my main weapons are: 1 long sword, "noooo, you can't just dodge every attack!!!" "Haha, counter go brrrrr" 2 hammer, bonk 3 grate sword, bonk but sharp 4 good ol'doot stick 5 charge blade, the rise demo one is a keyblade and you can't say otherwise
I didn't know LS and DB were on a low in 4U I guess it's a good thing I picked them up in 4U as my first mh game because they only got better with each game
Just got done watching this and the HH video. The Rise demo has been introducing me to a lot of cool channels that I didn't know existed. Keep up the good work!
I think a significant amount of the stigma towards Longsword as a weapon definitely comes from getting tripped by them in multiplayer. But also it definitely feels like the weapon that gets shown the most favoritism from the development team, having high damage and many options for avoiding damage which also putting out high damage. It's a fun weapon, not denying that, it's just strange looking at the flashy stuff Longsword does then looking over at Lance doing the triple poke for the 40th time in the same hunt.
I still remember back in playstation 2 first MH when Eager Cleaver designed as longsword and also there is prototype gunlance and prototype gunhammer, only gunhammer never came out to be in next gen MH weapon class.
*Sharpens long sword* ah yes the only weapon in the game pre rise Rise: my LS wont stop crying, all i did was pick up the hunting horn let alone use it. great video rad
Hammer user here, I've had bowguns stagger, and prevent me big banging more than longswords, honestly. I use one level of flinch free if im playing multiplayer anyways, and if im solo, i just swap that decoration for a level of speed sharpening or another utility skill.
I wished the LS had a smaller hit window it's so bad in world that it barely hits critical weak spots is so wide you literally gotta be a pro hunter know exactly the monster and the position is going to be at without smacking its thunder thighs by accident . Btw clutch claw us awesome well with shaver lol
Love to see either (light) bowguns or dual blades, my favourite weapons, because this was a great video. I'm kinda glad I didn't get to play GenU, looking at all the valour stuff. That said adept... everything really but longsword especially was broken enough already, and I had a lot of fun with that. Also, in the likely event that the skill datamines for rise are true (spoilers) Sakura Slash is coming back in some capacity as a silkbind move (hell it was even featured in one of the trailers for Rise). Other than that it looks like you might be able to switch out some default attacks and one of the silkbinds is constant. In the longsword's case it seems they want you to keep the counter at all times which I'm personally grateful for since I skipped world and the iai and foresight slash seem jank to me.
Longsword users really can't catch a break. *Gen 2:* Constantly trips teammates *Gen 3:* Added a finisher that automatically equips the user with a neckbeard, fedora and dakimakura; still trips teammates *Gen 4:* Removed the weapon's ability to deal damage, but not its ability to trip teammates *Gen Ultimate:* Boosted safety and damage output so much that all Longsword mains were branded as noobs and "tier-pickers" *World:* Gave other players the ability to ignore Longsword trips but made it so impractical to use that no one would actually slot it in *Rise:* Someone really just pulled the sheets off of Capcom while it was giving the Longsword a handy
I'd love to see sns soon, a jack of all trades weapon in the series is really interesting, and it's had a lot of small changes over the years... And CHAOS CONTROL.
Some points you missed from the new Rise additions: -ontop of having a more forgiving window and different damage model, there are combo options out of the Iai spirit counter now, Iai spirit slash will let you combo into a new sheathe animation afterward (counter not required, this is a safe way to escape if you whiff). if you land a counter, then you can actually combo into spirit 3 or an overhead slash afterwards, as well. Counter Iai slash>spirit 3>spirit roundhouse is a lightning fast way to get two gauge levels -The normal Iai slash can no longer counter attacks, and it also replaces spirit 1 and goes directly into spirit 2, optimizing the combo compared to World's optimal combo of Iai slash>fade slash>spirit upper slash>spirit 3>spirit roundslash -the foresight slash has been both buffed and nerfed. Iceborne reduced the active counter window time and counter hitbox, rise instead has massively streamlined the hitbox for landing a counter, but kept the window long. This makes positioning and aiming your counter to go right through an attack very important, as if the attack whiffs even slightly you will not get that satisfying ding. -Tolerances for almost all attacks have been reduced. What I mean by this, is that world's attacks had a large amount of "end lag" where the next combo input could be queued, longer than a full 2 seconds on spirit 3 which was insane. These have been pared back to make setting up counters and waiting out spirit gauge recharge when doing spirit combos more difficult. -We've lost the option to spam poke>uppercut after most attacks save for the overhead slash and from neutral -this one's a very minor change, but you no longer lose your spirit levels after a faint. Overall, I really like all these changes. The iai spirit counter feels way less vestigial cause of some additions to it and tweaks in other areas, the helm splitter hitbox feels great now and getting into it with the silkbug is way less clunky compared to the spirit thrust, and I can't wait to see what other cool silkbind attacks we get (ps counter damage buff counter damage buff COUNTER DAMAGE BUFF)
I was a Long Sword main in MHFU... ... then I realized I was too shit for it, so I switched to SnS and never looked back. Mad respect for the people who are good with it, though.
Absolutely, It had a huge potential but making it extremely necessary to get even close to efficient dps ruined it. If it was an optional thing it would have been better, just look at hunter arts and the wire bug!
I don't know if we'll get more silkbind moves in the future, I hope so but it would be weird that dataminers found nothing and that they only showed 2 in the trailers in my opinion, I might be completely wrong tho. Nice video!
This is a great video - well put-together and super informative! You definitely know what you're talking about! I'd love to see one on Hunting Horn - apart from being my main, I know it's one that's changed a TON since release, being completely overhauled with nearly every gen.
I remember when I first picked up the LS in 4U I thought that it was pretty clever that they didn't give the fade slash any i-frames because it rewarded knowing when you could get away with just moving by keeping up the damage, but if you didn't roll when you needed to you ate a tail to the face. Little did I know they were going to buff it into a fucking counter weapon. I still love it tho.
First: your cats are adorable i love them. Second: i love the changes they did in rise, like the options after a spirit iai slash instead of sitting there like jackasses and watch the monster attack you, but as a LS main, i really think that foresight slash is too permissive, i hope they will find way to shorten the counter window. Third: something like valor longsword should never happen again, it is basically like the chargeblade from MH4U but without animation commitment lmao, pls nevermore, too stronk.
Ah yes, the Longsword...the Bane of everyone WHO'S TRYING TO DO SOME FUCKING DAMAGE OH MY GOD STOP IT WITH THE LONG GODDAMN SWINGS AND LET ME HIT THE MONSTERS HEAD! THE TAIL IS STILL THERE GO FOR THAT, JESUS CHRIST
Huh, I've never knew long sword was so hated (though you are right sometimes i like using it because I feel like i'm using a katana) Also I really want a Dual blades, the fact that it started as a upgrade from sword and shield and the animation for it was done by Ryozo Tsujimoto in monster hunter for the west and G makes it so interesting, also by how broken it can be in generations.
It can't be that hated. It's the most used weapon in MHW. I think a lot of the hate comes from being tripped by LS (AND DB) players that don't understand tripping. Pair that with the self-obsessed LS elites on Reddit that call you a bad player because you hate that a level 3 slot is a requirement if they so graciously join your hunt. I played MHW and MHWI with my friends that used SA, DB, LS, and HBG and almost never had to slot in a Brace jewel.
The way I see it from a gameplay design perspective, LS was originally made as a matchup to GS. Whereas GS was a weapon where you need just one charged slash, LS was a weapon where you need consecutive hits which build up the charge(spirit mechanic). As such, the evasive moves were added to LS and expanded upon (fade slash and the directional fade slash in later installments) so that the weapon will not have any downtime to build the charge. This changed however becaude of CB in MH4U, I think. Guard points became very popular with the community that they eventually added the valor style in MHGen, where LS benefitted a lot. It worked so well with LS that since then I think the devs went on a different path for the weapon in World and in Rise - - to make LS a counter weapon. Edit: aside from CB, I think MH was also inspired by parry mechanics from other games such as soulsborne and sekiro
I mained longsword in MHFU in my first MH playthrough. Changed from the dualblades which were a bit doodoo back then. I still remember the bone katana "wolf". Believe it or not, my first wall was congalala. It was that monster which gave me the MH click. Also Yian garuga was the monster I just randomly discovered tails were cuttable with. I was absolutely stunned when I saw that fall down haha.
My favorite has always been the Greatsword since the start, but I've grown to also like the Sword and Shield as well as the Heavy Bowgun thanks to me just flat out thinking "Welp, killed fatalis a lot, time to try it with a different weapon"
I've mained Long Sword since Portable 3rd. In World I finally truly started using other weapons until I was familiar with all of them but still I will probably always be Long Sword main.
Fun fact: in MHFU (not sure about other gen 2 games) you could continue your infinite longsword combo even after the quest complete message pops up and you normally lose control of your character, all the way until the fade to black. Not really useful in any way, but fun to just keep comboing when everyone else is forced to put away their weapons and flex or whatever.
I don’t really think longsword deserves the hate that it gets, granted my first game was MHW and I mained longsword. At first I felt like I was a total noob for using the weapon because I kept seeing charge blade and switch axe users and everyone else trashing longsword and also just being extremely badass but the more I played and learned, the more I realized how personal longsword is to play it’s the definition of keeping your cool, being analytical and aware of the monsters attack cues. It teaches you how to predict and evade. Ever since I fell in love with it and yes I tried both bowguns, The bow, Chargblade Switch axe and dual blades none of them besides charge blade that gave me the satisfaction of actually feeling like I was learning about the game and myself so yeah I absolutely love longsword
Honestly, Valor Long Sword is still the best iteration Stationary parry (got tons of kills from parrying monsters' head attacks) plus that optional gap closer Spirit Blade IV is quite nasty
Even though the Iceborne and Rise renditions are the most complex and flashy (and fun) out of the bunch, nothing could compare to the power and safety of Valour Longsword.
I remember that i use the long sword in Monster Hunter Tri Ultimate, and also that i commit the biggest mistake of all I forgot to buy sharpening rocks, so I almost failed the Ceadeus Fight, also the weapons that i main in every game were, in 1 Sword and Shield, 3 Long Sword, 4 Switch axe and in Generations and World I main Great Sword.
For main series weapons, I would love Switch Axe and Lance. For the five abandoned weapons, I'd love to see the Accel Axe. As an extension, I think it'd be fun if you did a video(s) on XR later down the line now that it's been shut down. It had some entertaining crossovers.
Longsword since I started on freedom unite. 13yo didnt like the sluggish moves of the GS and also how it felt like I was doing anything with SnS. Whilst the other weapons confused me or also made me felt sluggish. Eventually I would dip my feet into other weapons in 4u, Generations and world, but longsword still remains my staple.
I didn't really use LS until GU when Valor was added and then again in Rise when it got significantly easier to use with Quick Sheath actually working on the special sheath. I actually use LS way more and its became my third main(Insect Glaive in 2nd and Dual Blades being my true main since 3U. I have a thing for flashy weapons).
I plan to, but getting all the info on it is really difficult, plus I need to find a way to get all the footage I need. it'll probably be my bigger project in the summer
My personal favorite is Sword n Shield due to versatile and movement along with combos. Second is Hunting Horn, gotta love buffing and dealing punshiment (favorite one is old Deviljho. Gotta love it). Third is Gun Lance, for boom boom explosion fun time. Fourth is Insect glave. Like the buff bugs and staff. Fifth is Heavy Bowgun. I do enjoy hunting with it. And finally sixth is Great Sword, had some really fun hunts with it
I always main great swords, there's something special about dancing so well with a monster and bashing it for 1k damage with the slowest attacking weapon. Plus shotgun lance to scout monsters movesets for my G.S run lol
i been binge watching these videos and im loving em! great job but heres a nitpick, in world, the Iai slash (the 1, 2) can also counter just like the spirit slash, also if you counter with it, the spirit gauge boosts itself for a longer period of time. im loving these tho bro good fucking job
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Definitely the Bowgun, especially since there's the medium bowgun.
@@Sir_Adam yes!
Lance Lance Revolution Baby!
ALL THE WEAPONS
Sword and Shield!
I would love to see the history of every weapon in Monster Hunter.
Same!
Same!!!
YES.YES.YES
Same
saaame
1:40 ah yes the famous 99 mega potions
LOL
I got a bug where all of my items on missions duplicated to 99 about 10 years ago
And after reseting the game, all of my honey from box had dissappeared! Only honey. Nothing else. Was afraid of bugs and glitches in any game afterwards (well, mhfu was not the only reason).
@@GrayFoxHound9 u ate ur honey fool
I've been playing MH for almost 7 years by now, and i still remember what got me into the series. It was the MH Portable 3rd trailer where the hunter was fighting an Arzuros with the Yukumo Longsword. At the time I thought that was the coolest shit I've ever seen so I wanted to try the game out. Since then I fell in love with the game, the mechanics, the lore, the constant rush the big monsters give me, everything! And also since then I've been a lonsword main even when i didn't know half of what this magnificent weapon had to offer. Believe me when I say that I'm glad to see how much it's changed over the entries, that way i got to play and experiment but most of all to have fun relearning the reason why I got into the series. Thank you for uploading this video, it really made my day and got me into a really cool nostalgia trip :) Everyone who took the time to read my coment to the end please do have a really good day :)
I will do my best to have a good day. Thanks for watching!
@@SuperRADLemon so here is an interesting trick you can do with the long sword, have you ever used a weapon known as Windeater? it is from monster hunter 3 ultimate. Basically, it is supposed to be one of the later weapons, since you need light crystals to make it, which cannot be obtained until you reach the frozen tundra, but because you can go to these areas much sooner then normal by doing guild missions, you can get it much sooner, it has a power level of 429, and 2 decoration slots, with decent sharpness. That weapon has carried me through a lot of the early game missions. the only major downside to the wind eater is the materials needed to upgrade it, you can't get those until after a long time.
Only real ones knows he released this one on accident yesterday lol
You are a real one!
same
Yup
Lmao
I saw what he did. The real ones will not forget.
So glad you mentioned the old Great Swords had the Long Sword models 🙏🏻 I'll never forget swinging Iron Gospel around in MHFreedom thinking it looked so funny swinging like a G Sword even though it was long and very skinny
I would honestly like to see a video on the Lance - because it seems that whenever the team does something experimental which completely encompasses the game (underwater combat, clutch claw, mounting), the Lance is the weapon which can use it the best. Seriously, Lance's moveset underwater was unmatched and the Clutch Claw literally feels *built* for the Lance.
Iceborne Lance is so fucking good
@@fojisan2398 sadly it lacks damage compared to other weapons
@@XemnoB Dudn't matter to me, it's still so, so fun!
@@XemnoB I always remember lance having consistently high damage. Gunlance however has always been gutted in that department.
Lancers step up 🛡️
A huge part of LS bad rep is how easy is is to not just trip but trip lock other players. There are other weapons that can trip lock but the big difference between them is the area is which they “deny” and it makes it extremely easy for a LS player with poor multiplayer positioning knowledge and courtesy to have a high negative impact on others hunters experience.
vinter want hont?
@@bobbydabribr5430 Monki, or should I say birdy has found me
Note: Helmbreaker is currently bugged in the Rise Demo, Dataminers found a number which is pointing to somewhere it shouldn't be, causing it to be doing double the intended damage.
Bethesda: it's a feature
now im wondering, did they fix it at all now that its at update 3.0/almost 3.1, or is helmbreaker still dealing lots more damage than intended?
Sakura slash WILL be back. It's a silkbind move and it appears in a trailer
The Adept/Valor finisher is back too
I saw it and I think it looked different than the MHGU sakura slash
@@nubbmann637 looks less flasy but still it's the same move
Yeah, I agree the LS honestly doesn't deserve the stigma it gets: its a good weapon thats even better in the right hands, imo. I do love me some sweet, sweet Switch Axe content, though
Mechanically, in regard to building and managing gauges and powered-up states, the Switch Axe and Long Sword _are_ incredibly similar
team: reeeeee LS FFS WATCH YOUR SWINGS!
LS user: hehe longsword go swish swish swish swish swish
Im stealing this
LS main : HAHA no,btw don't steal my head
Hammer Main: Man this guys tail is really annoying. If only a cutting weapon could get rid of it.
LS user: I know right? (Continues to hit the head).
Lance main: Sure would be nice to counter the Monster and not the LS
Main weapon? The Bonk Trilogy.
Hammer, Charge Blade and Hunting Horn. Also Lance, because blocking is awesome
Ahh still remember when the eager cleaver was a greatsword.
Glad I could help you out with providing Tri footage. 😉
Yes! Thank you!
I would like to hear about the Sword and shield
Def
No, Bow first
@@SuperRADLemon also RAD we saw a Sakura slash-like wirebug attack in the first or second trailer
Id like to see the hammer but other weapons may be more interesting so im fine with waiting
@@vincentpey3929 yeah hammer pretty much stayed the same over the years the biggest change probably has to be the stances rise added in.
My favorite weapons are: 1- Insect Glaive 2 - Heavy Bowgun 3 - Longsword 4 - Light Bowgun 5 - Charge Blade.
@Ketchup Obelix Lol, don't see alot of Horn mains anymore, they were popular in in MH4U
@Ketchup Obelix ever try the glaive?
I prefer the faster weapons
@Ketchup Obelix but the dual blades are just too weak
1- Longsword 2- Insect Glaive 3- Swaxe
Longsword is one of the weapons I didnt really play that much. Mainly due to the reasons you mentioned. Dont get me wrong, the weapons IS really good. But I rather play weapons like HH, Swaxe or SnS.
ah yes, the unicorn HH player
Idk why nobody seems to have noticed but in the trailer where a longsword user is fighting a Tetranadon, the silkbind move being showcased is actually functionally similar to the Sakura Slash. So it will be in the game presumably
@Olivier N. nope. 2 slashes while sliding past the monster that cause multiple residual hits
Watching your videos is like drinking coffee while watching the sunrise, in fact I love watching your videos while drinking coffee!
I love having a coffee while I make em ☕
@@SuperRADLemon a man after my own heart.................... I swear, it's not used for any sets so please don't carve it xD
The hunter’s notes mentions that the iai spirit slash should be taking levels for mistiming counters, but even so with the level increase on connecting counters, I can see crit draw builds being a lot funner than iceborne.
Especially now that you can go into a special sheathe right after iai spirit slash.
Something you missed for 4th gen (or to my knowledge at least in 4G) landing spirit roundhouse, while does not refill your gauge, it will pause the depletion for 10 seconds. Overall great video!
Amazing stuff, I didn't know they went back and forth with the spirit level thing, then again I barely played LS.
I want Capcom to redistribute good hitzones evenly amongst a monster's body, they've centralized everything on the head, and they also need make the effectiveness of damage types on specific body parts more like it was before.
This would help tremendously on the tripping problem of things like LS and IG without outright removing weapon-player interactions.
The sakura slash is confirmed for rise it was in the first trailer
Long Sword was my original main in 3U (3DS version), my first MH game. Honestly I was awful with it though and became a Great Sword main in 4U which I was significantly better with. I've been a Great Sword main and Sword and Shield secondary since but I'd love to try and learn this weapon at some point, maybe in Rise.
i used to play a lot of LS in freedom unite. So basically i was in this forum and they started hating me then banning me for using this weapon, mostly mods and admins were only heavy bowgun toxic users.
pffft the pew pew gang, I have more respect to bow user than those wanna be rambo guys nah.
Great video, man! Looking forward to the history of my favorite weapon, the Switch Axe!
Well, my main weapons are:
1 long sword, "noooo, you can't just dodge every attack!!!" "Haha, counter go brrrrr"
2 hammer, bonk
3 grate sword, bonk but sharp
4 good ol'doot stick
5 charge blade, the rise demo one is a keyblade and you can't say otherwise
RAGE "DID SOMEONE SAY....GRATE SWORD?????"
Well someone has played kingdom hearts
MH4U, the best game in the series, also a low point for the long sword. Coincidence? Nah no way :)
loooooool
they nerfed it so everyone ended up playing the two new weapons only
Ah mh 4 where the dualblades run out of sharpness in seconds and where all the new weapons overshadow everyone.
@@marcusgo6784 As a dual blade main, it does hurt
I didn't know LS and DB were on a low in 4U I guess it's a good thing I picked them up in 4U as my first mh game because they only got better with each game
3:33 In all seriousness, Is no one going to talk about How The Mega Potion went from 99 to 10?
LOL
i was literally about to say, liiiiike....
Just got done watching this and the HH video. The Rise demo has been introducing me to a lot of cool channels that I didn't know existed. Keep up the good work!
Welcome aboard!
12 seconds into the video and I already feel compelled to leave a like. 10/10 intro.
History of Lance
From the Simple Combo to Complex
From a wall with stick, to a tiger tank with stick
Lance was better in Gen than now though.
I think a significant amount of the stigma towards Longsword as a weapon definitely comes from getting tripped by them in multiplayer.
But also it definitely feels like the weapon that gets shown the most favoritism from the development team, having high damage and many options for avoiding damage which also putting out high damage. It's a fun weapon, not denying that, it's just strange looking at the flashy stuff Longsword does then looking over at Lance doing the triple poke for the 40th time in the same hunt.
Love these history videos. You're on the way to being one of the biggest MH content creators for sure
Nice video, Long Sword is my 2nd favorite weapon. Oooo can we get a video on the History of the Hunting Horn? That be awesome.
Definitely in the near future
@@SuperRADLemon 🎉🎊
The japanese song for cooking at the end really brought me back in time, damn
I still remember back in playstation 2 first MH when Eager Cleaver designed as longsword and also there is prototype gunlance and prototype gunhammer, only gunhammer never came out to be in next gen MH weapon class.
*Sharpens long sword* ah yes the only weapon in the game pre rise
Rise: my LS wont stop crying, all i did was pick up the hunting horn let alone use it.
great video rad
Nice to find a fellow long sword enjoyer. It's been my main weapon since the Portable 3rd days.
I've been binging your channel. This sounds like a rad idea for a series.
Also I like your cat
Hammer user here, I've had bowguns stagger, and prevent me big banging more than longswords, honestly. I use one level of flinch free if im playing multiplayer anyways, and if im solo, i just swap that decoration for a level of speed sharpening or another utility skill.
I wished the LS had a smaller hit window it's so bad in world that it barely hits critical weak spots is so wide you literally gotta be a pro hunter know exactly the monster and the position is going to be at without smacking its thunder thighs by accident . Btw clutch claw us awesome well with shaver lol
@Ketchup Obelix only if it really worked that way in monster hunter it all depends if I want to spend a few minutes or 15 min to take down a monster !
The silk bind counter does take two wire bug charges though.
Love to see either (light) bowguns or dual blades, my favourite weapons, because this was a great video. I'm kinda glad I didn't get to play GenU, looking at all the valour stuff. That said adept... everything really but longsword especially was broken enough already, and I had a lot of fun with that. Also, in the likely event that the skill datamines for rise are true (spoilers)
Sakura Slash is coming back in some capacity as a silkbind move (hell it was even featured in one of the trailers for Rise). Other than that it looks like you might be able to switch out some default attacks and one of the silkbinds is constant. In the longsword's case it seems they want you to keep the counter at all times which I'm personally grateful for since I skipped world and the iai and foresight slash seem jank to me.
Sakura Slash is gonna be broken af in Rise, guaranteed
Longsword users really can't catch a break.
*Gen 2:* Constantly trips teammates
*Gen 3:* Added a finisher that automatically equips the user with a neckbeard, fedora and dakimakura; still trips teammates
*Gen 4:* Removed the weapon's ability to deal damage, but not its ability to trip teammates
*Gen Ultimate:* Boosted safety and damage output so much that all Longsword mains were branded as noobs and "tier-pickers"
*World:* Gave other players the ability to ignore Longsword trips but made it so impractical to use that no one would actually slot it in
*Rise:* Someone really just pulled the sheets off of Capcom while it was giving the Longsword a handy
I'd love to see sns soon, a jack of all trades weapon in the series is really interesting, and it's had a lot of small changes over the years... And CHAOS CONTROL.
yoh rad, love the vid man! i'm pretty excited to see the history of the Hunting Horn. all my homies doot in this house.
Is this a thing you are gunna start doing???? Cause to me I'd be into it. I love how your kinda like a mh historian
Yessir, want to cover every weapon
@@SuperRADLemon awesome I'll be there haha
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Don't forget to hit that bell guys!
@@RPGeenius little late lol did that awhile ago
Some points you missed from the new Rise additions:
-ontop of having a more forgiving window and different damage model, there are combo options out of the Iai spirit counter now, Iai spirit slash will let you combo into a new sheathe animation afterward (counter not required, this is a safe way to escape if you whiff). if you land a counter, then you can actually combo into spirit 3 or an overhead slash afterwards, as well. Counter Iai slash>spirit 3>spirit roundhouse is a lightning fast way to get two gauge levels
-The normal Iai slash can no longer counter attacks, and it also replaces spirit 1 and goes directly into spirit 2, optimizing the combo compared to World's optimal combo of Iai slash>fade slash>spirit upper slash>spirit 3>spirit roundslash
-the foresight slash has been both buffed and nerfed. Iceborne reduced the active counter window time and counter hitbox, rise instead has massively streamlined the hitbox for landing a counter, but kept the window long. This makes positioning and aiming your counter to go right through an attack very important, as if the attack whiffs even slightly you will not get that satisfying ding.
-Tolerances for almost all attacks have been reduced. What I mean by this, is that world's attacks had a large amount of "end lag" where the next combo input could be queued, longer than a full 2 seconds on spirit 3 which was insane. These have been pared back to make setting up counters and waiting out spirit gauge recharge when doing spirit combos more difficult.
-We've lost the option to spam poke>uppercut after most attacks save for the overhead slash and from neutral
-this one's a very minor change, but you no longer lose your spirit levels after a faint.
Overall, I really like all these changes. The iai spirit counter feels way less vestigial cause of some additions to it and tweaks in other areas, the helm splitter hitbox feels great now and getting into it with the silkbug is way less clunky compared to the spirit thrust, and I can't wait to see what other cool silkbind attacks we get (ps counter damage buff counter damage buff COUNTER DAMAGE BUFF)
Oh yeah I noticed that spirit level after faint thing! LS got such a buff lmao
@@SuperRADLemon Hell yeah it did! This is the team that gave us Valor LS, after all.
For years this was one of my top 3 main weapons (Until 4U which I'm currently playing) and it's truly a lot of fun, such a great weapon!
I started with freedom unite and if im going to be hated for using the weapon i grew up with then so be it.
I was a Long Sword main in MHFU...
... then I realized I was too shit for it, so I switched to SnS and never looked back.
Mad respect for the people who are good with it, though.
Nice video, I'm new to the channel. Hope you do more weapons history videos.
Thanks for stopping by. I plan on doing one for each weapon :)
Ah, yes, the weeb sword. The bane of every multiplayer player’s existence.
"clutch claw is garbage..." I have never meet some who so strongly shared my feelings on it
Clutch Claw was their biggest misstep
Absolutely, It had a huge potential but making it extremely necessary to get even close to efficient dps ruined it. If it was an optional thing it would have been better, just look at hunter arts and the wire bug!
I don't know if we'll get more silkbind moves in the future, I hope so but it would be weird that dataminers found nothing and that they only showed 2 in the trailers in my opinion, I might be completely wrong tho.
Nice video!
We definitely have more moves on the way as the official trailer showed moves that weren't in the demo
@@SuperRADLemon It's great to know!
Isn’t it weird that MH Tri made us unlock the longsword in the story missions? Did any other MH games make us unlock weapon classes?
Wow I do not remember that. Probably because 3U doesn't do that
The best change is that it does not trip allies in rise
This is a great video - well put-together and super informative! You definitely know what you're talking about!
I'd love to see one on Hunting Horn - apart from being my main, I know it's one that's changed a TON since release, being completely overhauled with nearly every gen.
Hunting Horn is next :)
gabe is a cool cat
The best. All he does is sit and throw up.
I remember when I first picked up the LS in 4U I thought that it was pretty clever that they didn't give the fade slash any i-frames because it rewarded knowing when you could get away with just moving by keeping up the damage, but if you didn't roll when you needed to you ate a tail to the face.
Little did I know they were going to buff it into a fucking counter weapon. I still love it tho.
First: your cats are adorable i love them.
Second: i love the changes they did in rise, like the options after a spirit iai slash instead of sitting there like jackasses and watch the monster attack you, but as a LS main, i really think that foresight slash is too permissive, i hope they will find way to shorten the counter window.
Third: something like valor longsword should never happen again, it is basically like the chargeblade from MH4U but without animation commitment lmao, pls nevermore, too stronk.
Gabe kinda fresh tho. 😳
He vibing
Who is that beautiful guy, who will definitely do a video like this for every weapon type?
Oh hey thats me
Ah yes, the Longsword...the Bane of everyone WHO'S TRYING TO DO SOME FUCKING DAMAGE OH MY GOD STOP IT WITH THE LONG GODDAMN SWINGS AND LET ME HIT THE MONSTERS HEAD! THE TAIL IS STILL THERE GO FOR THAT, JESUS CHRIST
Huh, I've never knew long sword was so hated (though you are right sometimes i like using it because I feel like i'm using a katana)
Also I really want a Dual blades, the fact that it started as a upgrade from sword and shield and the animation for it was done by Ryozo Tsujimoto in monster hunter for the west and G makes it so interesting, also by how broken it can be in generations.
It can't be that hated. It's the most used weapon in MHW. I think a lot of the hate comes from being tripped by LS (AND DB) players that don't understand tripping. Pair that with the self-obsessed LS elites on Reddit that call you a bad player because you hate that a level 3 slot is a requirement if they so graciously join your hunt. I played MHW and MHWI with my friends that used SA, DB, LS, and HBG and almost never had to slot in a Brace jewel.
Admittedly, one of my favorite weapons for the Longsword are the more knightly esque ones. Such as the Guardian longswords.
The way I see it from a gameplay design perspective, LS was originally made as a matchup to GS. Whereas GS was a weapon where you need just one charged slash, LS was a weapon where you need consecutive hits which build up the charge(spirit mechanic). As such, the evasive moves were added to LS and expanded upon (fade slash and the directional fade slash in later installments) so that the weapon will not have any downtime to build the charge.
This changed however becaude of CB in MH4U, I think. Guard points became very popular with the community that they eventually added the valor style in MHGen, where LS benefitted a lot.
It worked so well with LS that since then I think the devs went on a different path for the weapon in World and in Rise - - to make LS a counter weapon.
Edit: aside from CB, I think MH was also inspired by parry mechanics from other games such as soulsborne and sekiro
Long sword and HH are good n all but I think now..it’s HAMMER TIME!
Brothers rejoice! As a LS mains we shall only go for the head and we shall trip our fellow Hunters! Let us congregate our brain cells and join as one
lmao 😂
Yes my brother!
I mained longsword in MHFU in my first MH playthrough. Changed from the dualblades which were a bit doodoo back then. I still remember the bone katana "wolf".
Believe it or not, my first wall was congalala. It was that monster which gave me the MH click.
Also Yian garuga was the monster I just randomly discovered tails were cuttable with. I was absolutely stunned when I saw that fall down haha.
My favorite has always been the Greatsword since the start, but I've grown to also like the Sword and Shield as well as the Heavy Bowgun thanks to me just flat out thinking "Welp, killed fatalis a lot, time to try it with a different weapon"
This was incredibly entertaining and informative! Now do it 13 more times plzzz :)
I've mained Long Sword since Portable 3rd. In World I finally truly started using other weapons until I was familiar with all of them but still I will probably always be Long Sword main.
Hope to see SUPPORT written at the top of the HH Video for its whole duration.
Fun fact: in MHFU (not sure about other gen 2 games) you could continue your infinite longsword combo even after the quest complete message pops up and you normally lose control of your character, all the way until the fade to black. Not really useful in any way, but fun to just keep comboing when everyone else is forced to put away their weapons and flex or whatever.
Great vid, papa RAD!
I really like your content)
Glad to hear it!
I don’t really think longsword deserves the hate that it gets, granted my first game was MHW and I mained longsword. At first I felt like I was a total noob for using the weapon because I kept seeing charge blade and switch axe users and everyone else trashing longsword and also just being extremely badass but the more I played and learned, the more I realized how personal longsword is to play it’s the definition of keeping your cool, being analytical and aware of the monsters attack cues. It teaches you how to predict and evade. Ever since I fell in love with it and yes I tried both bowguns, The bow, Chargblade Switch axe and dual blades none of them besides charge blade that gave me the satisfaction of actually feeling like I was learning about the game and myself so yeah I absolutely love longsword
Honestly, Valor Long Sword is still the best iteration
Stationary parry (got tons of kills from parrying monsters' head attacks) plus that optional gap closer Spirit Blade IV is quite nasty
it would be awesome if you made an entire UA-cam play list of the history of all monster hunter weapons
I have one! I believe it should show up on my channels main page, but I'll double check :)
Even though the Iceborne and Rise renditions are the most complex and flashy (and fun) out of the bunch, nothing could compare to the power and safety of Valour Longsword.
I remember that i use the long sword in Monster Hunter Tri Ultimate, and also that i commit the biggest mistake of all I forgot to buy sharpening rocks, so I almost failed the Ceadeus Fight, also the weapons that i main in every game were, in 1 Sword and Shield, 3 Long Sword, 4 Switch axe and in Generations and World I main Great Sword.
Ha, your arguments almost got me, Long Sword user! But thankfully my stubborness is rock solid.
gen 4 seems to be the generation when they first started fucking with the weapons lmao
For main series weapons, I would love Switch Axe and Lance.
For the five abandoned weapons, I'd love to see the Accel Axe.
As an extension, I think it'd be fun if you did a video(s) on XR later down the line now that it's been shut down. It had some entertaining crossovers.
My favorite thing to do in World was cancelling Foresight Slash into Spirit Thrust
Oh the old Slice and Dice weapon... I played MHFU and this was wholesome
As a hammer user I love the claw the spins are so much fun after charge 3
hunting horn is definitely my favorite, although charge blade is great as well
A Gunlance history video would be absolutely chaotic with the amount of changes they have made over the years. Hunting horn too
Longsword since I started on freedom unite. 13yo didnt like the sluggish moves of the GS and also how it felt like I was doing anything with SnS. Whilst the other weapons confused me or also made me felt sluggish. Eventually I would dip my feet into other weapons in 4u, Generations and world, but longsword still remains my staple.
I didn't really use LS until GU when Valor was added and then again in Rise when it got significantly easier to use with Quick Sheath actually working on the special sheath. I actually use LS way more and its became my third main(Insect Glaive in 2nd and Dual Blades being my true main since 3U. I have a thing for flashy weapons).
Wait you not doing history on monsters hunter online the Chinese one
Yeah I want that one bad.
I plan to, but getting all the info on it is really difficult, plus I need to find a way to get all the footage I need. it'll probably be my bigger project in the summer
@@SuperRADLemon I wish you a lot of luck with that one! If you can manage that im sure youll be greatly appreciated
Loved this video. Please make this a series
i'd like to see dual blades, as it's my favorite.
My personal favorite is Sword n Shield due to versatile and movement along with combos. Second is Hunting Horn, gotta love buffing and dealing punshiment (favorite one is old Deviljho. Gotta love it). Third is Gun Lance, for boom boom explosion fun time. Fourth is Insect glave. Like the buff bugs and staff. Fifth is Heavy Bowgun. I do enjoy hunting with it. And finally sixth is Great Sword, had some really fun hunts with it
Keep this up man, your content is amazing
I always main great swords, there's something special about dancing so well with a monster and bashing it for 1k damage with the slowest attacking weapon. Plus shotgun lance to scout monsters movesets for my G.S run lol
i been binge watching these videos and im loving em! great job but heres a nitpick, in world, the Iai slash (the 1, 2) can also counter just like the spirit slash, also if you counter with it, the spirit gauge boosts itself for a longer period of time. im loving these tho bro good fucking job