The evolution of Long Sword in Monster Hunter
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♬ Music ♬
・Endless Maze (INTRO)
・Gathering Hub OST from Rise (Sponsor)
・Monster Hunter OST from MH1 (1st Gen)
・Shen Gaoren Finale from MHp2g (2nd Gen)
・Proof of a hero from MH3 (3rd Gen)
・Winds of Departure from MH4 (4th Gen)
・Pride of a nameless hunter from World (5th Gen)
Timestamps:
00:00 INTRO
00:34 SPONSOR
02:34 1st Gen
03:18 2nd Gen
04:57 3rd Gen
07:52 4th Gen
11:44 5th Gen
15:35 Outro
This run was recorded on PC. The specs are the following:
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I cheered out loud when I realized the True Devil Slicer was in Rise. That weapon got me through some hard times in Freedom Unite back in the day.
I had a similar reaction, but I was a bit disappointed they didn't bring back the same design tho. Unite's was cooler.
@PeppoLS We've lost most of the of really cool, metal LS designs over the years. Atlantis, Edel's Ice, Eager Cleaver, and Memento are all gone now.
@@PeppoLS it is too chonky and the ribbon was cool af
oh yeah eager cleaver my savior in fu (and Im stll using true devil slicer in gu too)
Can we have a video like this for all the weapons? its such a nice video
it made me REALLY excited for the next generation of MH the depth on each weapon will grow even more and im so hyped for it!
I'd love to see one on hunting horn, it's my favourite fictional weapon of all time probably, I love it's history and constant betterment through out the games! (Besides rise,,, just a bit..)
@@Bethynaee amadeus could do HH
This is better than getting another "What if MH6 this or that video" quite tired of those ngl...
Educational stuff!! I love seeing videos like these 🤓! Thanks for the history lesson Peppo 🙏
My pleasure :)
My heart aches for this game every time. So much nostalgia, so many memories, so many feelings and emotions as I'm thinking of the countless hours I've played and will continue playing as long as this franchise exists. Thank you for the amazing videos and I hope you get to keep making them for years to come
Thank you 😊
I grew up playing the original monster hunter - seeing that stretched screen from PSP footage hit me right in the nostalgia. Great video!
I’m excited to see what is next for longsword in the next MH game. I’m very curious to see what they will take from MHR and what they will leave behind for LS and all other weapons
Nice Video, I was just looking for a bag to store my switch.
I’m glad you liked it 😊
my two favorite longswords are actually from the first MH I ever played, Tri, dark claw "demise" and rising soul, those two will forever be remembered by me, and to mention some from GU/World/Rise era I really like Reverent Elusarca for the sheathe design with the ice crystals, Royal Captain Rapier, Stahlfakt self explanatory its just so cool, Fissureforce just because I thought the design was clean, and lastly Moonbrand Lua Cheia just because lunagaron is my favorite new monster, LS has some of the coolest overall designs and I hope with MH6 they don't make the same mistake in world where its just bone/iron
Great video, Peppo!
The patches look super cute!
Thank you, Gaudium!
The Brave counter is still goated imo. If they just let you do the upwards thrust after instead of the dividing one, it would naturally flow, and not be as broken. The sunbreak ls is pretty close as well, but not quite there.
Really hope they bring back styles or smth similar for a collab game like gen again, being able to play in so many ways is still unmatched in the mh franchised
I’m getting one of those bag.
I have to go with my favorite monster glavenus and its LS, bias included as it was my 1st mh game. Ty for the history lesson Peppo, I've been watching since world.
Thank you for watching :)
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the guan dao looks beautiful, i wish i had gotten into the series before mhw
Favourite longsword has to be the Gore Magala longsword for me. Something about the purple just hits different.
Thank you for the videos! I became a longsword main because of your content.
Gore LS is absolutely aesthetically pleasant, good choice :) And thank you!
1:06 that tag looks chic 🥰
For favorite playstyle deff iceborne longsword is my fav, and for weapon designs it's gotta be the zinogre and stygian zinogre longswords. some of the coolest effects i've ever seen are on those swords. i'm a real sucker for lightning infused blades too lol
Finally someone who basically explains that guild style is MH4U moves and striker style is MHFU moves.
Great video as always! I'd pick Devil Slicer, but there are other cool LS like Megrez's Asterism and Thunderlord Raikiri.
I've played since 2nd gen and personally my favorite would be generations LS. Not because it had Brave/Valor style, but because for the first time they introduced "active skills" (= hunter arts). I remember being skeptical about adding all these styles and arts at first, but eventually fell in love with the diversity they provided. Rise did a good job merging the style/arts from gen and new moves from World, but I think they might have gone a little too far. It's not just LS though. What I felt during Rise was this excessive spamming of silkbind attacks. It almost felt like using basic moves/attacks were just fillers between certain moves and silkbind attacks. So for the next installment I hope they find the golden balance between basic moves and special attacks.
EDIT: Also, I hope they don't make the game anymore complex. I remember using multiple weapons in the older games where things were fairly simple. But now (in Rise and Sunbreak) we have all these moves and special attacks stacked on every weapon that it became quite overwhelming and daunting to try learning multiple weapons.
thanks for sharing!
Generations was my first game in the series and striker LS was my favorite way to play even in GU, though I really love Brave style LS too, but I feel like Rise LS should've just been a different weapon instead, even though its a lot of fun.
I've since played MHFU and that game has my favorite LS gameplay.
Favorite longsword is the Ominous Spring (Amatsu LS), its also my layered armor for my clockwork cowboy look
I have one of these bags, great, i love it😍
Peppo I wish you’d be my daddy ❤
But to be serious, you’re knocking it out of the park with your videos. It’s great to see how much more confident you got speaking English. Thank you daddy Senpai Peppo, keep trashing on those poor Mosnters 😢
Thanks! Confident in speaking English? Mmmmm not sure bout that ahahah but I try my best!
Still remember playing LS in 2nd gen. Trying to figure out all the positioning to make fading slash/dodge works was quite something. Remember slashing a rathalos tail mid tail sweep and feeling like a boss
The weapon that seems to be made out from a lot of thinking about the movement's. Everything is just so smooth.
so broken you mean
I remember using Devouring Demon in GU... was super fun imo haha
Peppo, which version do you recommend to a noob like me to start with LS? P3rd 3U or 4U?? I only have those options on PC (also have GU World and RiseBreak)
I fking love Tri para LS. Status is goated
Holy crap it's an ad for something I might actually buy! Cool. Great vid Peppo (the Almighty God of Longsword)
Thank you.
what i'd like to see for longsword is another color that surpasses red, and new install moves added for a limited time, that would be cool.
Red and Blue scroll caught my attention 13:15 basic Rise yes player have two different choice on three moves and Sunbreak DLC gave one extra also access to both scroll. Just small reminding.
My favorite Longsword? It’s a hard one. Ima go with Chaos/loi long sword.
You are the dude who teached me how the fk its possible to aggressively counter attack those multi wing hit combos
of speedy sword wing blood sucking bug attracting boi. You are amazing. Keep it up!
My fav LS style is the Monster Hunter World: Iceborn for sure! :D
Azure star is my favorite LS design, love the blue and gold with the dragon design
Great choice!
Mine was the mizutsune LS
my fav is mhp3rd one (or 3rd gen, if you will), its simple, positioning and evasion is still the key, I would say 4u but the red gauge running out back to base gauge was horrendous, which led me to use ig and cb instead. Also one point that you missed (or I missed it in the video), gen longsword has 4u moveset including the omega awesome spirit jumping slash from fade slash, but also has the gauge mechanic of mhp3rd ls, which means if your red gauge runs out, you only back to yellow, not to the base, colorless gauge, which would make gen longsword the best of both world for me, but it also has adept and valor, so you know how the story went. Mh3rd one still my fav, just because of the simplicity
13:16 switch skill swap was announced together with the sunbreak expansion in 2022, not with rise release in 2021 tho :)
yeah that's my bad, you are perfectly right! Switch SKill Swap and Red and Blue scrolls were introduced in Sunbreak, not in Rise xD
My favourite longsword is the daimyo one, literally a big claw.
Moveset wise, I enjoy mhp3rd's one.
My favorite iterations have to be World/Iceborne, and MH4U. I couldn't gel with the major counter focus of Rise/Sunbreak LS. It just didn't feel very fun outside of using it once in a blue moon for 10 minutes.
As for favorite LS itself, maybe Stygian Gula, Lightbreak Edge, or Radiant Flow(I'm a sucker for that minimalist design)
I've been playing since freedom on the psp and I gotta say longsword has pretty much become what I imagined it to be as an elementary school kid, it's been my favorite weapon since unite
Im a MH player thanks to world,so this video is gold for me! Good job peppo
Also, im not sure what happened at 14:40 🤔
Look like you tanked the scorned magna beam, and I dont know how you did that
I might learn something here 😅
He probably have a skill called evade window, which grants invulnerability when dodging.
my favorite version is on the PS2... in Monster Hunter 1 :)
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MH1 didn’t even have dual blades initially they were added in the western release. In a way early Longsword acts a lot closer to switch axe since you didn’t need to worry about color buffs.
What layered armour are you wearing in the mh rise clips? I've been trying to find it for ages I love how it looks
Azure Starlord (apex rathian footage) or Diver (apex diablos).
Thank you!@@PeppoLS
World was my first mh but after playing rise i dont think i could do back. Ls feels so much more smooth. Also the switchskills, scrolls and general wirebug mobility way more than make up for the lack of detail in the environment/ wildlife. I just hope the next mh is just as fun if not more than rise
I really miss the non counter long sword a lot.. I hope 6th gen goes back on some changes 5th gen made
Were those your hands and arms during the sponsor segment? If so, whoa your arms are hairy.
A Long Sword Legend talks about the legends of the legendary Long Sword
Im a big fan of MHW's Azure Star Dragon Dance.
It's amazing how well Long Swords have changed over the years, let's hope nothing about them changes. Nothing more, nothing less.
Long Sword will continue to change, I highly doubt the developers won't add anything new with the next titles. They always did it.
All the weapons will continue to change and gain more moves and more depth, this makes them more fun and satisfying
maybe a simple move that is very impactful like the great sword tackle, or a flashy move like the helmbreaker
this refinement, this honing, this innovation is what got MH to where it is right now, and its incredibly naïve to be scared of change
you have to embrace that and accept it and you will enjoy not only MH more but everything in life will become more enjoyable
@@ahmadbugshan9603 you do have a good point, and you're right 👍.
The long sword has had a nice evolution, a very, very nice evolution over the generations (even if I admit that I only knew the mh game from World). on the other hand, since Rise and Sunbreak, it has gone to a whole new level... if I dare say... cheating. attention ! the filopter was a good invention, beautiful mechanism, simple and effective... a little too much in fact because combined with the weapons including the long sword, received a boost but then from a monster, the qurios system which showed the end of his nose has further boosted the weapon and I hope that in World 2, they will change that .
Peppo,What do you think about the incoming Monster hunter new generation the almost release in tokyo game show in this month ?
MH Now? I'm planning to bring some content to that game!
rise is definitely my favorite though icebornes is really meaty too
0:33 Stupid bag
2:12 I need to get this bag!!
i love Namielle Long sword with RGB and deep cooler
Of course mhw LS is the best and will always be the best ❤❤❤
Ive got to say my favorite longsword is a tie between eager cleaver and rime & treason
Ah yes, the monster hunter freedom 2 was one of my first monster hunter game then on Android was the Monster Hunter . Good old days.
Longsword having the same Bloat Raw modifier as Greatsword in 2nd gen was so cursed
yeah because it was the same class. Like SnS and DBs, or Hammers and HH, or Lance and Gunlance :)
I hope foresight slash and spirit helm breaker stick around.
I really wish they went in the dodge attack direction of the triangle + circle instead of parry but there is no hope for that anymore.
Now I wish they make a new weapon to fill that role. There really isn't anything like that in monster hunter anymore.
older titles still had the good gameplay... man, how I miss those days.
I love rise's moveset, i feel like it gives you so much to choose with and build into. The previous generations seems good aswell, but you can see that it was building up to this. As much as rise is mid sometimes, i have the moves.
Man I actually went to portable 3rd from Freedom Unite without the tutorials on weapons, so I didn't know that a new attack was added so I never used the 4th attack. Even in world it took until I beat Xenojiva and started watching yt vids until I found out about the bar system, foresight slash, and helmbreaker lol
Ahahah that’s funny
It feels like in Rise/Sunbreak, they really gave LS as many different styles as they could to test things out, kinda feels like the MH isnt sure what role they want LS to be filling, like if the want it to be counter or combo into finisher
it's a completely different weapon now 😭
The second Long Sword dropped on Monster Hunter Freedom 2, I never dropped it 😅. Killed Crimson Fatalis with Black Katana Mk.III
Hi im new to MH i used to be a god eater player so can someone tell me, do they add new move sets every instalment of the game? Like in world the claw and some new moves and now in sunbreak it has switch skill do you guys think they will new stuff to the Wilds?😊
They expand/change the moveset of the weapons with almost every new game.
As Wilds is going to be the first game of the 6th generation, it will deffinetly add a new gimmick and also new moves for the weapons.
See ya on MH 6 :D
My favorite version is prolly Valor as it's strong but doesn't feel like a braindead way to play the weapon, we have Aerial Pellet LBG and Adept Hammer for that
Man the Azure Rathalos armor from the 4U clip... I miss 3rd gen Rathalos armor designs so much. Hope gen 6 brings them back instead of giving us gen 1 designs again.
Do you hope that longsword in MH6 gets less counter intensive than Rise? I know some people like it but I kinda prefer more of the older style of it.
I prefer old-school LS, so yeah, less counter would be my dream for MH6. Also, I'd like the Spirit Combo to regain that central role that completely loses in Rise/Sunbreak.
Mhgu goated. Every weapon in that game was best in series.
Tessaiga, and Universal Chrome need to come back to Monster Hunter. I know Alastor is a Charge Blade now, maybe have Yamato as an LS
would have loved to see how it was in MH Online & Frontier :(
I included only the main series because I never played MH Online & Frontier, so I don't know much about that...
I played frontier not long ago, it was one of the best LS iteration with valor style from Generation to me.
The base moveset is quite similar to old games, you don’t have access to the spirit finisher. However fade slash is replaced by a fast rising swing that has s and can be used to reset your spirit combo (and basically everything).
Also the ability to run adds a great repositioning game to LS, especially to land counters it has access to.
You can block attack and have access to two different actions after a successful parry : a long and very strong advancing thrust that deals multi hit (great with elemental LS) or a blink that makes you move in a chosen direction crossing monsters and delivering a slash (may have s as well).
Lastly, hitting and blocking will increase a second gauge that once full can be spent to a sort of finishing anime style move.
mh frontier have styles too but the most know style "frontier" is another thing, parry,counter,special cuts and you can sprint using the weapon,that kind of style surpass valor and bushido but more like the true concept of those 2, i played mh online too but was like generations,fluid with hunting arts very similar almost no differences
Wheres the mh frontier z longsword style? I need more information
Wow, Im surprised I didn't know that Spirit Gauge got nerfed in Sunbreak, honestly not super surprising lol, tho I am somewhat surprised that all three levels got nerfed instead of just red gauge (guess they wanted to make it all multiples of 4 lmfaoooo)
Shara ishvalda had one of the best looking LS Top 5 imo
Love it, hi from spain
Hola amigo! 😊
Ahhh yes the time where longs Word where great swords in mh freedom on psp
For me Freedom Unite and Sunbreak have the most fun to play Longsword.
Wow, there's quite a difference though! xD
My favorite longsword is Hammer.
Now give me the Lance history.
I'll do it for you.
1st gen: it pokes
2nd gen: it pokes
3rd gen: it pokes, now with a counter and a slap.
4th gen: it pokes, now with new anime moves.
5th gen: it pokes, but counter ×2
Hearing about how the 4th gen weapons got hunter arts made me think it would be pretty cool if the MH6 longsword got two branches, one "Demon" branch technique and the other "Sacred" technique. One focusing on counters and increaing their damage while the other focuses on regular attacks and increasing their damage, maybe adding a forth spirit gauge to it as well.
Just a thought though.
Best LS for me is iceborne's. Good feel and very powerful.
Also alot of fun manipulating the spirit helm breaker momentum for crazy hits. Mhgu's bushido LS was alot of fun, but always felt gimmicky to me (much like gen in general)
4u's LS was felt oddly weak but had a good moveset.
3rd gen was great for the time
2nd gen was the age of GS for me.
Sunbreak's LS just didn't feel right. Very spammy or frusturating. Depending on the style.
How do you get 60 frames on Generations ultimate?
Emulator
@@PeppoLS 3ds or switch?
everytime longsword gets a new move, its gauge buff gets a nerf....coincidence? I THINK NOT
I started using long sword in Rise and Sunbreak and I think I am good at it my main always changes for each game
3rd gen Longsword Best longsword (specifically portable 3rd/3U). I hope that MH6 moves longsword away from the counter play style IMO world did the counters best by punishing you for failing them by dropping a gauge level.
yeah rise has counters on steroids while in world it felt more balanced out in the moveset
both are enjoyable in their own right
@@BigDBrianrise LS is kinda boring, at least sacred sheath is kinda cool lol.
how do you get 60 fps in 4th gen
citra emulator
03:57 Longsword have more than 5 attacks if you play with some of it's combos. There is one special normal attack and one special for the spirit combo attack. If we have to be precise there are 5 non- spirit moves and 4 spirit spirit moves that you can perform if you know all of it's combos. And who knows maybe there are even more. I don't think I have tried everything.
Oh and about the "special" 4th spirit attack, It helps you skip spirit attack 2 and go directly (from spirit attack 1) on spirit attack 3, helping you contain spirit level at the same time. It doesn't waste spirit level so I guess it's not technically a "spirit attack"
I'm not sure what you are talking about, but Freedom Unite is literally the Monster Hunter I know the best, specifically the Long Sword. Now, let me specify a little bit more here what does "only 5 attacks" mean. I wanted to keep it short in the video, otherwise every single game would have been 5+ mins each and this video would have been insanely long. Also there are lots of hidden mechanics that change from game to game and I didn't put them in this video, again, for time reason.
1) The draw slash, which is the attack you do with triangle, can either be done with your weapon sheathed, with your weapon unsheathed or a second time after the draw slash. In this last case, the MV changes to 28 instead of 33, but the animation of the attack is the same so I considered these 2 attacks as a single one.
2) Then we have the stab or poke, which can be done after a draw slash or a Spirit Blade I. It doesn't change anything, it has the same animation and same MV.
3) The Upward Slice (what we call nowadays the Rising Slash) can be done after a poke or a Spirit Blade II. Again, it doesn't change anything, it has the same animation and same MV.
4) Fade Slash, only backward, can be done after every attack.
5) Spirit Blade combo. Yes, this includes Spirit Blade I, II and III so it's like 3 in 1. Spirit Blade I can either be performed with the LS sheathed or unsheathed, it doesn't change anything. Spirit Blade III has 3 hits but the attack is just one.
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So dissapointed that Divine Slasher didnt make it in Rise. Such an easy lay up. It was in the promo art for Forlorn Arena.... 2nd fave Ls. #1 for me is Heaven's Thunder
It is hard to beat MHR longsword fluidity, but I think that MHW's feels more impactful. For the next MH i wish it is more like in World but without the clutchclaw (I hate the tenderizer meta)
dual sword pls
I was playing Mh Rise a year ago my main weapon was Long Sword, I spend 40 hr of game and I didn't know Long Sword can do anime slash 😂.
Monster hunter has always been one of my favorite series...but world...made it world wide for so many. Really hope they go back towards the style tbh. It's always good to see so many enjoy it
Valor was probably the most fun this weapon ever was. It didnt overshadow its moveset with new flashy special moves. Its benefits coexisted with the rest if the moveset.
World’s moveset would be up there too but requiring 2 tenderize attempts to sctuslly tenderize ruined it for me
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Nuuuu dove? Non ne ho visti!